Death's Shadow vs Eldrazi Winter | Quarterfinals 2 - Quest for the Best Modern Deck Ever
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- What was the best Modern deck ever? We made our community vote for one deck to represent each year since 2011, played four rounds of Swiss, and now we bring you each match of the Top 8. Jamin is playing Thoralf and either Death's Shadow or Eye of Ugin could be knocked out of the tournament.
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21:21 Wish we could've seen the look on your face when you extended the handshake at lightning speed. :D
Great game guys.
“It’s a thoughtseize.” That man is rediculously talented at reading his opponents. Obviously a top tier player
And when he said “deaths shadow” and I saw his opponent draw it, I’m like yeah he’s good.
Thoralf is a Mythic Champion for a reason
Love the mind games from both players this match. "You still have two turns till you have to worry about the Thought Knot..." and Jamin extending the hand at the end when he attacks into the Displacer.
A+ content. You guys are quickly becoming my favorite Magic channel to watch. Looking forward to the rest of the top 8.
I love this format. But what happened to Jarmin? Where the Eldrazi to hungry? I hope this will heal soon.
He fell off of his bike in his way to work :) he was fine though, though guy
@@CardmarketMagic Wishing him well!
I hope the bruises will go away soon and he will recover complete.@@CardmarketMagic
I think Thoralf guessed every top deck when Jamin reacted
Wow, glad the deck that won won. Really excited to see that last bit of the quarterfinals with hogaak vs rakdos scam. 2 newer decks that are prob some of the most broken things we can do in modern with the power creep
I feel like it depends which hogaak version we are playing if it has 4 maindeck leyline of the void like a lot of the lists did during the time its so over
Best video editing on Magic games in the business! So fun to watch and easy to follow.
It would be really cool to see Cardmarket edited videos of major pro matches (like the Worlds finals) with explanations and commentary from your team.
I hope the finals are a best of 5.
Eager to see who reigns victorious.
Eldrazi were always going to be the New England Patriots of this tournament. They're going to make the finals and if they don't win it will still be nail bitingly close.
For non American sports fans, this is barcelona in la copa.
God, Thoralf just calling that card Jamin bottomed with the second opt in game 1 a thoughtsieze. How does he do it?
I think it has to do with knowing jamin's wincon at that time is getting the dismember out of his hand to push for lethal with temurs battle rage, but also knowing he bottomed it because his life total would be too low had he casted it
that level of experience and intuition is mind blowing to me :0
For the second puzzle, the solution was found through experimentation so it's a bit hard to see what was the actual difference between the attempts. It would have been nice to just recap quickly.
Great content. I love this channel so much.
Love the play of Jamin at the end. I know a lot of player who would probably fall into the trap. Amazing Video by the way !
The editing and music were great 😁👍 Thanks for the awesome episode 😊😁🎉
Thank you :) I'm happy you enjoyed it!
Kind of weird to not see Splinter Twin on a list of the top 8 Modern decks of all time, but I guess iconic doesn't necessarily mean most powerful.
I have always been an Eldrazi fan
Awesome decks piloted by awesome players, I love this series
This kind of content is pure gold
I like the hair thoralf, i was rooting for you at the world championship 😢
Great video, really enjoying this series!
You can make colorless mana with Cavarn. It just won't give the uncounterbility
FYI: Hand display for the eldrazi in game one showed flooded strand when a hallowed fountain was then played
Wish I could've seen Jamin's facial expression when he initially extended his hand for a handshake 😂
We have an issue with Jamin being too tall for the graphic overlay 😅 we have a conflict of waiting to see Jamin's face but also the card.
eldrazi with the aggro early game, control mid game and ramp late game.
I am high as fuck, and the music in the first match is so epic! Dude update, the music in the whole video slaps!
I hope you do vintage and legacy as well ;) commander ? do every format just to be safe xD
Can't wait for some Hoogakin' to take place
I feel the need to correct you. At the end of the video one of you attempted to counter a spell that cannot be countered. The statement was it doesn't resolve. Meaning the counterspell doesn't resolve. It totally does resolve and actually does counter the spell... But in Magic can't beats can. So can't be countered wins out. I had a friend win a PTQ and he was so far ahead that just for fun he cast an Evasive Action on a Blurred Mongoose in the finals. The Mongoose player called over a judge to figure out what happens. The judge said Mongoose is on the stack. Next is Evasive Action. Evasive Action resolves so now you have to pay 5 mana or the Mongoose is counted. Evasive Action resolves. Do you pay the 5 for Mongoose? The player was confused and worried but said no. The judge says okay. The Mongoose resolves unless another player wishes to add to the stack.
It doesn't resolve because it's a 1 mana counter and chalice counter it automatically.
So i was building the izzet eldrazi winter list before it won the pro tour and I was taking my time thinking that no one was playing it then of course it gets banned 😅
Bro, we did the First things First at the same time🤣🤣
Love it!
Did Jamin getback from a crime scene and used this match as an Alibi or something?
Poor guy had blood on his arm the whole match, too bad now his alibi won't work for him no more!
Hope Carl wasn't the victim lol
He just fell off of his bike :) he was fine in the end. Luckily, I lived to answer comments for another day (or this could be Jamin, impresonating Carl, post murder)
I was hoping that Death's Shadow would be able to put up more of a fight, figured that Eldrazi would win. Kudos to Jamin and Toralf on a game well played.
By the way, how do you guys decide who plays which decks?
Thoralf and Jamin were not available on the first day of filming so we had to have 2 matchups of Thoralf vs Jamin & 2 matchups of Andrea vs me. And then we just picked decks that we believed we could most confidently pilot :)
Forgot to turn eldrazi Mimic into a 5/5 game one. Would have forced out the kolagans command early, and dealt more damage if Jamin didn't have removal. It didn't end up mattering, but still...
I knew it'd be Eldrazi winter!!! ❤❤❤ Nice game though!!!
I'm sorry but I don't get the Cavern of Souls - Matter Reshaper interaction...can you not just specify that you tap CoF for colourless and then proceed to play Matter Reshaper?
Many thanks in advance :)
The answer is yes you can, but Matter reshaper would not be uncounterable because you use colorless mana off the cavern instead of colored mana.
Is Jamin ok? That's a mighty big bruise/burn/cut on his arm.
He fell off of his bike on his way to work. He's a tough guy though so he was fine other than a few scratches :)
Leaving the game beside... Jamin, what the hell did you do to your arm? Hope you get bettet soon! 😮😊
He fell off of his bike on his way to work, he's fine though :) he just got a few scratches
Consider adding about 10 min in extra in such video's, so the length doenst spoil a thing.
Death's shadow is an aggro deck 😅 the video length doesn't help here :)
@@CardmarketMagicI think a lot of people are remember the Lurrus Death’s shadow deck that was banned last year. The Lurrus and current version of the deck are very grindy midrange where the 2017 Temur battle rage version was forcibly an aggro deck with the Modern field being mostly turn 3 combo decks at the time.
4:57 OBJECTION! THE EDITOR MADE THE VERY SMALL MISTAKE OF PUTTING FLOODED STRAND INSTEAD OF HALLOWED FOUNTAIN! THIS IS A CLEAR CONTRADICTION OF THE FACTS!!
Need Jamin elbow lore
He fell off of his bike on his way to work :) he was fine outside of a few scratches
Bro im sry but i have to tell you, dying from aggro with a hand full of removal Is not the way ti play deathshadow
can we get this for pauper
How do you miss all those eldrazi mimic triggers like that? It’s one of the funnest cards in the deck
The triggers wouldn't do anything. The only time he played a creature bigger than 2/1 Jamin was dead even without the trigger
Deaths shadow would be a weird win since it has no banned cards(at least what I could see on a quick glance) and it should be better with newer cards
Why is Thoralf using an Eldrazi Temple like an Eye of Ugin…?
When yo finish modern could you do pther formats plis ?
We plan to :) we already did standard as well
really thankfull you make my day full of joy
I wouldve 100% made him discard that land in game one turn one, screw the thought knot
Thoughtseize says nonland 👍
Eldrazi winter ruled. But Combo Winter was better :P
This series is absolutely fantastic. And the editing is constantly out of this world. You guys do a perfect job explaining just enough that someone not savvy with modern could follow, but without over explaining later on
I've heard the legends of Eldrazi winter, but this really showed off why it's so infamous ❤
UW Eldrazi was the more controlling version of the deck. UR Eldrazi was a lot more explosive and very terrifying.
You didn't witness the double mimic thought knot start, that is nightmarish.😂
@@necrow4155you mean the double mimic, SSG, reality smasher start?
@@ondrejbehavka165 turn 1 eye of ugin, triple mimic, turn 2 temple + SSG for reality smasher, 20 damage gg
You weren’t there man!!!
I appreciate that Thoralf insight: it seems like he just knows these decks so well it’s hard to beat him when he can guess your card based on your reactions and the situation.
Sometimes I too feel like I’m not seeing witch deck is beter cause I’m seeing a pro vs a casual player, though they are fun to watch
Thoralf got a haircut?!... I miss fuzzythor ;)
@@iulianbordeianu2415 Jamin has been playing competitive MTG since he was 9 lol I'd hardly call him casual
@@maxfawcett143 :)) Yeah i didnt know that, but i saw Thoralf the first time when he won a modern tournament with tron and the lvl of skill i saw from him is astonishing, Jamin is a good player dont get me wrong(certanly beter than me) but when he plays against Thoralf or Andrea I have moments were i feel that he should have won but they just outplay him same thing happens when they play against Carl too.
@@iulianbordeianu2415 I also think Jamin has top 8'd a few GPs
I was rooting for the Eldrazi Winter win, but man do I wish Jamin could have gotten to that third game. But it was hard to believe Thoralf wouldnt see the play. GG folks.
Eldrazi gonna take it imo. Sol lands are hard to compete with.
I dont know hogaak kind of busted as well
@@akorthouwer they already tested Hogaak vs Eldrazi and the Eldrazi won
@@owithalineybutitsupsidedow923Hogaak is up against Scam though for the top 8 so still could take it.
I don't expect it to, since almost every time anyone has tested the two together Eldrazi eats Hogaak for breakfast, but when you base it solely on one match, anything is possible!
Nope on Eldrazi, nope on Hogaak
Both decks are fully unbanned and have even more cards they can use in Legacy and they see zero play.
Modern Horizons 2 kills them dead. If the swiss hadn't put the the 2020 decks together I would be betting they take all 4 spots.
@@NeoHellPoet If you don't understand the difference in context between the legacy card pool and the modern card pool, with or without MH2, I don't know what to tell you. The decks weren't great in legacy even before MH2, and in fact MH2 actually brought back Hogaak for a bit in that format.
Thoralf with the rebellious backwards hat gives me life
The editing in your newer videos just keeps getting better and better.
You're certainly among the highest quality gameplay channels out there. Not even just magic, but period.
Thanks for keeping up the amazing work
That's so kind of you to say :) thank you!
This is ten thousand better than Wizards oficial coverage lol
This has become my favorite MTG channel, the quality of the videos never stop to increase!
Thank you :) that's so kind of you to say
I love this format so much
Fully agree. Can't wait to see the menace that is Hogaak :)
Was Jamin in a bike accident or are we not talking about fight club?
We are not talking about bike accident club 🤐
ROOTING FOR THE ELDRAZI
Really impressed with the production quality and Toralf's psychic powers!
The more-intense-than-usual music really added to the atmosphere! I love watching Eldrazi Winter decks.
Love the new editing choices in the beginning! 🔥
Edit: Nit only the beginning, the whole video had very subtle but good new editing!
I just put more effort into this series than the other videos since it's my favourite content to make :) and thank you
I guess the final will look like the old video "Eldraine Winter vs Hoogaak Summer " ahaha
Eldrazi Winter: what if we let Ancient Tomb into Modern, but only for 1 deck
Eye is way better than ancient tomb. Tomb is 2 mana, if you have an eye on the board and seven eligible cards in your hand that is 14 mana. Yeah it’s an extreme case but since it’s a passive effect it is easy for the eye to essentially generate more than 2 mana.
Also without the 2 damage.
I love the characters and the editing in your videos so much, not even WoTC official tournaments come close, keep it up, please!
That's so kind of you to say :) thank you
You can in fact cast matter reshaper with a Cavern of Souls, Cavern taps for colorless. You also don't need to tell your opponent it can be countered
Yeah but willfully withholding public information from your opponent feels like a dick move. Also, the un-counterability from cavern only comes from the second ability, which can only provide colored mana
Matter reshaper costs only one colorless mana in this spot because of the Eye of Ugin and cavern's uncounterable mana is colored mana only.
@@olafthemoose9413 And Cavern still taps for colorless.
@@zym6687In order to be uncounterable, you need to use the mode "add one mana of any color". Colorless is not a color, and can thus not be produced in that mode.
You can still use cavern to create a colorless mana, but that would not grant uncounterable.
@ellisgriffin668 Obviously this video isn't about competitive level play, but in competition, with prizing on the line, there is a big difference between bluffs, dick moves, angle shooting, and cheating
Tapping a land that can legally cast your spell without saying "tap for colorless, would you like to counter this" is on the far left side of that spectrum.
The interaction is visible on the board and it's up to the opponent to catch it and punish it if they can
I am curious if people think that deaths shadow was better in this version or right before the lurrus ban with dress down instead of temur battlerage, I’ve played against that list and this list and the games where you can dress down with two deaths shadows and a lurrus to replay them from the graveyard every turn is horrific. Just curious what other modern grinders think
5:57 those boops from the music start actually startled me lol. Could you consider excluding that part the next time you play that track?
If eldrazi doesn’t win the whole thing I’m gonna bring infect to my playgroup 😡😡
Hogiak is
Hogaak VS Rakdos Scam is basically MH1 vs MH2: Duel of the Titans
Trigger the battlecry? Toralf's been playing Hearthstone, I see.
jamin should not have been able to kolaghan's command the eldrazi mimic at 7:49, when thoralf cast the drowner of hope it became a 5/5 until end of turn
Jamin did it before Toffel went to combat, implying that the trigger is still on the stack
I thought the most "meta" list back in the day was RG eldrazi with simian spirit guide and chalice
We pooled a few pro players from the time to pick the lists and the general concensus was that the UW list with drowner and displacer was the most oppressive. Mainboard chalice wasn't even good anymore since everyone played eldrazi 😅
You guys consistently make such good videos, and the high quality play combined with the super clear editing makes these some of the best MTG gameplay videos I've ever seen!
I expected the Grixis Shadow deck to be playing Gitaxian Probe. Probe was still legal at the very beginning of January 2017. Of course, it was banned later on that month but it was still technically legal in 2017, if only for a few days! 😂
what happened to Jamin's elbow? 😢
He fell off à bike on the way to work :) he was OK though
Thoralf’s reads are kinda scary. I know he’s a pro player, but it’s crazy how he’s never surprised or shaken.
Just like in the current modern meta loving deaths shadow is a heartbreaker 😢
Nice game, Eldrazi are deadly.
Just one small correction, I believe you don't need to pay mana to tap with Drowner of Hope.
Eldrazi Winter deserves the win but I’ll also say that those were very slow Shadow games as well.
I don't even understand how Jund managed to pull through but Eldrazi is cruising to the finals, where it will LOSE because it's just the third best deck with 12 post and Hogaak both being 10 heads above it and it's not even close.
Eldrazi will have a better time vs Hogaak because there's a scenario where they can get lucky enough with enough yard hate to do anything at all but 12 post is literally just playing better lands to summon better Eldrazi (and other fun stuff) Eldrazi just got no tools, if you want Eldrazi winter to win, you better pray Hogaak somehow beats 12 post, but that's a tall order.
(Though it's really weird that their list for 12 post plays 11 posts, should swap 1 drayd arbor for the last glimmerpost)
While I do think this result is correct (ETron was popular in 2017 because it had a solid matchup vs Death's Shadow. Furthermore DS Zoo did show up to the EWinter PT and got crushed). I wish you had brought in a Death's Shadow Specialist. Jamin is a very competent player overall but he played this deck heinously and should definitely have gotten to at least a Game 3 (his life management meant thst he couldn't battle rage for the win).
So, as a Jund player at the time of Eldrazi Winter, I can say with 100% certainty that Eldrazi will be in the finals. That match is almost hilarious it's so bad. Scam can't keep up with Hogaak as has already been proven and I don't think Whirza or 12 Post can keep up with Hogaak either. I think this will all go to Hogaak in the end.
These videos are so fun to watch. I would love to see you guys to search up decklists of various sets or blocks that 3-0, 6-0'd a draft and have them battle it out the same way. Let's find out what the most powerful limited format was. It would also be cool because you'd have all different cards, no Thoughtseize every game, not two Glorybringer decks in the finals :p
Calling it now, it's gonna be Hogaak Summer and Eldrazi Winter in the finals. (Which we've definitely never seen anywhere on the internet before lol). Maybe RNGesus will have other ideas or one of the newer decks will clutch things out thanks to power creep, but those two decks continue to show moderate success in *_Legacy_* after their bannings with only moderate changes. They really were in a league of their own.
Great video. Even with Toralf nerfing drowner by paying a mana for its abbility, Eldrazi still dominated. What a deck.
Winter came when I first played against it, turn 1, 5 permanents in play and my turn I thought seize cause it’s all I had and ripped nothing. Truly felt like I was in game of thrones right there
Also why would u pass turn with a wraith in ur hand and battle rage 🤔 and a kill spell 🤔 he could have ez messed up blocked and the push wins it for u or u kill the swing back tapped guy if u dont finshed him off bc he would most likely have to chump with enitre board that was just tire anemic play style , i think he has a magic crush on the backwards hat guy and just is afraid to beat him bc he gets butt hurt when he loses its the ban of many a test group and makes it so some of them never reach the levels they could.
I hate eldrazi, but if i play againts Toralf i Will like 💪🏽💃🏽, amazing video, as always, hace a great day guys
Chalice of the void is such a stupid card. It singlehandedly shut off Jamins deck. I don't really am a fan of card designs like this.
Oh man even with mediocre openings Toffel got it done!
Hope everyone is doing well :)
"I would like to trigger the battlecry". What now? HEARTHSTONE?
in the last video i was thinking "wow toffel is my age but with that hair he already looks like someones grandpa!" today he has a new hat.. how do you do fellow kids :D
Jamin played horribly in the first game, I'm sorry but it's true. Just way too passive
I wanted to comment but I don't want to spoil anything for people snooping around in the comments😅
Great games!
This video is really cool, wish we could have a change in music tho.. elevator music works better imo
I'm just excited to find out if the modern horizons power creep was truly the end of the boomer modern era.
Good games.
Feels like Eldrazi v Hogaak is inevitable.
THAT WAS FUCKING INSANE i cant wait till the next episode
Jamin what happened to your arm?!
He fell off of a bike in his way to work. Luckily, he's a tough guy so he was fine