Shooting with a Warming Filter | Film Comparison

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  • Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024

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  • @dennisgustavsson7222
    @dennisgustavsson7222 5 лет назад +82

    Tips for using the filter in photoshop. If you think it effects the whites too much. Right click on the adjustment layer and choose Blending Options. On the bottom of the new window there is two gradient bars. Alt-click on the pin on the white side of the gradient and pull it towards the middle. This decreases the filter effects in the white areas of the image.

  • @radfordphoto
    @radfordphoto 5 лет назад +9

    Warming filters such as the 81A, 81B, 81C, and 81EF were designed to correct the colour balance of film in cool lighting conditions such as portraits in the shaded areas on a blue sky day. The daylight film is designed for 5500 Kelvins and in the shade the Kelvins could be anywhere in the 6000-8000 range. By using using a warming filter in these conditions you will bring the colour temperature back to the manufacturers specs of 5500K. In Arctic/snow conditions and beach on a sunny day (in the shade of a tree or building) the colour temperature can be as high as 16000 Kelvins requiring a 85 series 0f warming filters for correction. Nice video presentation but I suggest using a 81A for general use and your 81C for portraits in the shade, particularly if you shoot weddings. Both white dresses and black suits develop blue casts in the shade. No scanning corrections will ever give you a better results than correcting in camera. It is not the same as Raw in digital. Hope this helps and sorry if this is too long and thanks for keeping film alive.

  • @NegativeFeedback
    @NegativeFeedback  5 лет назад +60

    BTW I purposefully left the grade on the outside footage neutral to show how it actually looked to the eye

    • @Zenger
      @Zenger 5 лет назад +2

      good, better not catch u editing

  • @Summerpopradio
    @Summerpopradio 5 лет назад +8

    I have spent two months watching all the videos in this channel like if I was watching a tv show and I am absolutely sad because this is the last video 😭 You and your friends are absolutely amazing not only as photographers but as persons. I've learnt a lot. You are so inspiring. Thank you so much. Looking forward to buy a new fanzine because I missed all of them. Greetings from Canary Islands! 🌞📸

  • @blaxton2
    @blaxton2 5 лет назад +11

    I like the new production pace. In your case, more often is better. Thanks.

  • @jordanbrazinski8260
    @jordanbrazinski8260 5 лет назад +1

    That filter just saturates the sun’s color in such a pleasing way. I love it! Would be interested to see how it effects slide and b&w film as well.

    • @geddyleesmullet84
      @geddyleesmullet84 2 года назад

      If I remember correctly, this type of filter works incredibly in slide film. Especially if the film is cooler like Ektachrome or when your in shade and the colour balance is cool in the shade.

  • @estherlidya6533
    @estherlidya6533 5 лет назад

    Every video and photos you take seem like there's a warmth into them. I couldn't pinpoint what made them that way but it's just very special. Nice work.

  • @justcallmesando
    @justcallmesando 5 лет назад

    A video about a filter... LOVE IT.

  • @thememoryguardians
    @thememoryguardians 5 лет назад +13

    Personally prefer the photos without the filter but can see the appeal of it for people living in England which tends to be more cool toned. I live in Australia and everything already comes out warm toned so I don’t need it to be anymore warm. :)

    • @EricBrownJr
      @EricBrownJr 5 лет назад

      I'd love to head to Australia and just take every camera I own and shoot all the things haha

  • @WesleyVerhoevePhotography
    @WesleyVerhoevePhotography 5 лет назад

    I love it on black and white, even the darker red filters, it make the sky incredible

  • @peterlove4619
    @peterlove4619 9 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the tip about telling the lab George, I am just about to try my RB67 pro SD with the Cokin Z pro filter set up, keep up the good work.

  • @brunopacine4108
    @brunopacine4108 4 года назад +1

    These kind of filter are originally created to color correct motion picture film white balance on camera. To correct tungsten lighting (used in studio) to match the white balance of daylight based filmstock like the kodak 250D or to use tungsten based filmstock (like the kodak 500T) in daylight external locations.

    • @brunopacine4108
      @brunopacine4108 4 года назад

      But it’s nice to use them in a creative way too

  • @thedondeluxe6941
    @thedondeluxe6941 5 лет назад +1

    I really like using the Cinestill 800T in daylight with a warming filter on the lens. Looks really nice.

  • @SarahFrickArt
    @SarahFrickArt 5 лет назад

    I really like it, gives so much life to the photos

  • @btrdangerdan2010
    @btrdangerdan2010 5 лет назад

    Thanks for sharing about the filter George. I’ll try it out.

  • @jklphoto
    @jklphoto 5 лет назад +2

    Warming filters are for color-correcting fixed white balance slide (transparency) film. Since slide film is a one-step process, the photographer is wholly responsible for the resulting image. Small exposure differences or color-shift on slide film are the result of shooting film slightly "wrong". Daylight balanced slide film is meant to be shot at 5500K, shooting it in shade would produce blueish images. That's why commercial photographers used Color Meters to measure ambient light and/or flash and adjusted their filtration before making an exposure.
    Portrait and Wedding photographers always shot color negative film since the goal was to make physical prints and it had greater exposure latitude. Originally, print film was chemically developed then video analyzed by humans and adjusted to the photographer's preference (I like my people images to be a little warm). Density (exposure) and each of the RGB channels was adjusted before "Print" was clicked and the image was sent into the enlarger for optical printing. Pro laboratories had specific channels setup on their analyzers for different film stocks, i.e. Portra.
    Now of course the photographer relies on a scanner operator (or himself) to adjust the images before making a digital file. Similar process, just not with the goal of optically printing an image. If you'd like to see what shooting slide film is like, fix your AWB to the Daylight setting and go out and shoot some JPEGS. Don't chimp. Look at your results on the computer when you get home. You will find/learn a lot!

    • @marcogea1974
      @marcogea1974 6 месяцев назад +1

      Finally, someone who knows what they're talking about.

  • @Hmmmook
    @Hmmmook 5 лет назад +1

    Love the video, can’t wait to see next weeks.

    • @EricBrownJr
      @EricBrownJr 5 лет назад

      I know right? lol the anticipation is killing me

  • @DisturbedVette
    @DisturbedVette 4 года назад +9

    “When I got a Leica I promised myself I would only put b&w film through it”
    *Why*

  • @maidakin9069
    @maidakin9069 5 лет назад +1

    This was a nice video to watch like it was just a pleasant piece of cinema

    • @EricBrownJr
      @EricBrownJr 5 лет назад

      They are always so dope. Im trying to make my videos more like his. 2019 goals ha

  • @jairusmaximus
    @jairusmaximus 5 лет назад

    Oh man I missed this kind of videos!

  • @MarcusWarnerMusic
    @MarcusWarnerMusic 5 лет назад

    I discovered your channel a couple of weeks ago and after slowly binging through all of your videos I meant to put a comment about filters as I don't think you've really mentioned them before. And then you upload a video and beat me to it - nice. Do you ever use polarisers?

  • @dorsheila8523
    @dorsheila8523 5 лет назад

    im always very amazed at how you frame your photographs, everything looks so good

    • @Foxglove963
      @Foxglove963 5 лет назад

      Dorsheila. That is debateable. He puts the object of his attention right in the middle of the frame, whereupon the psychological reaction is yawn, boring.

  • @common3480
    @common3480 5 лет назад

    Very subtle but still super good

  • @paralaksomat
    @paralaksomat 5 лет назад +45

    I'd love to see how it affects new Ektachrome

    • @sespela
      @sespela 5 лет назад +4

      My thoughts excactly. Warming filters were ment for slidefilm if I'm not mistanken.

    • @AnthonySchnitzel
      @AnthonySchnitzel 5 лет назад +1

      @@sespela That's what i read everywhere, but eh, seems like it works for print film too.

    • @sespela
      @sespela 5 лет назад +1

      @@AnthonySchnitzel a subjective opinion. 😉 I actually prefered the shots without. But I will try this on my slidefilm scans. Especially the Fuji Provia ones. I find a bit to cool in daylight.

    • @zguy95135
      @zguy95135 5 лет назад +2

      I think you'll like it on Provia, that pretty much always needs a warming filter

    • @seamusandpat
      @seamusandpat 5 лет назад +2

      Ektachrome was a notoriouly 'cold' colour temperature (more towards the blue) side film, so expect significant warmong effect again here.

  • @MultiSciGeek
    @MultiSciGeek Год назад +1

    Can you use a "cold" film with a warm filter plz?

  • @EricBrownJr
    @EricBrownJr 5 лет назад

    I like that it doesn't make brick too orange. Im gonna see if they make one of these for my Polaroid SX-70 and see if I can review it on my channel.

  • @pawelkocan860
    @pawelkocan860 5 лет назад

    thanks for this video mate!! it would be nice to see more tests like this :) that is really helpful

  • @arthurb8436
    @arthurb8436 4 года назад

    George throwing rapper hands the whole video, album soon?
    And yes, I comment this a year and a half later when rewatching all of Gergo's videos.

  • @davidanderssonlargueche904
    @davidanderssonlargueche904 5 лет назад

    Hi!
    First of all - thanks for a great channel, keep up the good work.
    I recently bought myself a Lecia M6 and I have had some troubles with the batteries. In the beginning I had the wrong kind so after some weeks I bought some really good ones. However it took me only a week before they where completely drained. I have done some research and some people seam to have a similar problem and their solution is to always set the time dial to B when they don't use the camera. I ordered new batteries yesterday so I haven't had time to try this out but hopefully it solves my problem. I was wondering if you have had the same problem and if you have some routine of always setting the dial to B or making sure that the lever is not cocked when you put the camera away (and thus leaving the meter off) ?

  • @jdouguspsa
    @jdouguspsa 5 лет назад +6

    we WEEKLY now

    • @NegativeFeedback
      @NegativeFeedback  5 лет назад +1

      the grind never stops *blowing smoke out of nose emoji* (wrote this on my computer)

  • @wuwlmon1265
    @wuwlmon1265 5 лет назад +2

    1:21 unintended pun "it's just Leica fun experiment"

  • @vividvulpe9842
    @vividvulpe9842 5 лет назад

    Very nice!

  • @dakoduh
    @dakoduh 5 лет назад +1

    subtle but it’s really pretty :)

  • @seamusandpat
    @seamusandpat 5 лет назад

    Overcast day = greater degree of blue light. The warming filter will help correct the colour on film and make the images look 'more natural'.

  • @trevorsowers
    @trevorsowers 3 года назад

    warming filters are a must have for slide film.

  • @daxysworld
    @daxysworld 5 лет назад

    ive had a warming filter sitting around in my drawers. i think ill throw it on now!

  • @JennaMyJenna1
    @JennaMyJenna1 5 лет назад

    That empty pool is so cool

  • @zguy95135
    @zguy95135 5 лет назад

    Necessary kit for shooting slides, plus it looks nice on c41 too!

  • @raksh9
    @raksh9 5 лет назад

    I'm not sure if I like this, particularly for urban shooting. It reminds me of using Auto white balance in Lightroom, it pushes things too warm for my liking. The warming filter is okay for some situations, but not generally.

  • @scheichi2000
    @scheichi2000 3 года назад

    2:13 Have you forgotten to put the lenshood back on?

  • @MoghulVeyron
    @MoghulVeyron 4 года назад

    Is this filter designed for B&W or for colour film specifically?

  • @hunjaksara
    @hunjaksara 5 лет назад +5

    This is so interesting and useful ! Great content, thank you. :)
    I got an idea if you feel like doing it sometime: it would be interesting to see a video about some great analog (or not) photographers who you may like, or who had a big influence over photography development as well as making up new styles. For exemple, like we have Picasso or Michelangelo in art, it would feel nice to be introduced by a little bit of history of photography from your point of view. :)

    • @Foxglove963
      @Foxglove963 5 лет назад

      sh3. Forget Picasso, he had a contract with his dealer that forced him to produce badly executed paintings, else he no income. The star makers hailed him nevertheless. He used a box camera with a broken lens, that's where he got his similarly broken compositions and broken up faces from. The horse on his Guernica painting has got nothing to do with the bombed city, the real symbol of Guernica is the sacred tree, which is on the city's heraldic shield. So now you know.

  • @olevillwock
    @olevillwock 5 лет назад

    yoo cool video! whats the name of the Gallery which you viseted in the video?

  • @MrBryanGatwood
    @MrBryanGatwood 5 лет назад

    Have you tried to change blend modes for the Warming filter in Photoshop? Maybe set it to Color or Hue?

  • @marcuspayton1252
    @marcuspayton1252 5 лет назад

    I wanna see a video of you trying out a camera with a waist level viewfinder ! RB67 or RZ67

  • @thomasnorris9963
    @thomasnorris9963 5 лет назад +6

    Any more negitive feedback tee shirts coming out?

    • @NegativeFeedback
      @NegativeFeedback  5 лет назад +4

      Maybe soon, it was logistically pretty challenging

    • @thomasnorris9963
      @thomasnorris9963 5 лет назад

      @@NegativeFeedback fair enough mate👍if u do decide to release some I'll be first to buy boi👍 (Cheeki Breeki)

    • @ReubenJBrown
      @ReubenJBrown 5 лет назад

      NegativeFeedback i still love mine!

  • @jakesloot211
    @jakesloot211 5 лет назад

    Interesting. I personally liked the filter effect much more on the indoor photos.

  • @gbrldz
    @gbrldz 5 лет назад +11

    Welp, just bought a filter off of KEH.

    • @EricBrownJr
      @EricBrownJr 5 лет назад +1

      Thats how they get ya haha

  • @newenglisharchitecture1012
    @newenglisharchitecture1012 5 лет назад

    Should I go for 81A, 81B, or like yours, an 81C? What difference do they make from one another ?

    • @Vabbian
      @Vabbian 5 лет назад

      81A adds the least warming, and 81C adds the most, with 81B somewhere in the middle. 81A is very subtle, whereas 81B is a decent all-arounder, especially if you'd be shooting in the shade that some films render more blue (looking at you Ektar and Provia), and 81C can be quite strong for general-purpose shooting.

  • @nollieheel214aim
    @nollieheel214aim Год назад

    I’d be interested to see what this filter does for shooting ECN2 films like 500t and 200t. Anyone know if there’s a difference between the 81A or C?

  • @colbyriviere1224
    @colbyriviere1224 5 лет назад

    I really hope Peels post about you wearing their shirt

  • @labradorhund7769
    @labradorhund7769 4 года назад +1

    1:22 "a Leica-fun experiment" : )

  • @Ballisticone
    @Ballisticone 5 лет назад

    Nice LHSA , Stay curious George.

  • @superyuyo4060
    @superyuyo4060 5 лет назад

    4x5 Chamonix vs Mamiya 7... As your main and only camera. Which would you pick?
    Bless you

    • @NegativeFeedback
      @NegativeFeedback  5 лет назад +1

      Really depends how much you travel, the mamiya is way more portable but I love shooting large format

    • @superyuyo4060
      @superyuyo4060 5 лет назад

      Yeah, I'm not traveling a lot lately... But sometimes I miss being able to ask someone "hey can I take a picture of you?" without adding "if you have 10 minutes" haha@@NegativeFeedback

    • @NegativeFeedback
      @NegativeFeedback  5 лет назад

      @@superyuyo4060 Yeah it is a bit slower to do, helps if you carry your camera already set up though

  • @fra91_
    @fra91_ 5 лет назад

    Great video as always! I would like to know where are the places at 2:19 and 2:34 (it's the same place perhaps?). Thanks!

    • @LucienHughes
      @LucienHughes 5 лет назад

      It's Whitechapel Gallery I think

  • @maximerica
    @maximerica 5 лет назад

    Didn't you already have an orange filter ? Like the one in video from Naples

    • @NegativeFeedback
      @NegativeFeedback  5 лет назад

      Yeah, that's for black and white not colour though

  • @pixelnitpicker5388
    @pixelnitpicker5388 5 лет назад

    1:40 What is that music? I cannot find it on LSOW's Soundcloud channel.

  • @sportzalband
    @sportzalband 3 года назад

    People: *Trying to get rid of Takumar's yellowness*
    Negativefeedback: Why?

  • @depotmsa2362
    @depotmsa2362 5 лет назад

    supernice

  • @Hackzyyz
    @Hackzyyz 3 года назад

    can you send the link of the filter i want to try it myself on my 50mm summarit

  • @skaterat321
    @skaterat321 5 лет назад

    I guess it's meant to be used with cine films that are tungsten. But it's great to see the test otherwise, it does give a interesting look to some photos.

    • @zguy95135
      @zguy95135 5 лет назад

      That's an 85 filter which is a lot stronger than an 81

    • @randallstewart175
      @randallstewart175 5 лет назад

      Actually, not so. If you have a film set to shoot under tungsten light and wish to shoot it in daylight, you would use a fairly strong blue filter, something from the 80 series. To go the other way, a strong amber, 85 series. The filter used here, a 81C, is a strong warming filter. I'm fairly sure he is adjusting color balance in photoshop to counteract the filter a bit, or his final images would appear much warmer (redder) than seen here. For the light overcast or mixed blue sky in most of these scenes, a 81A or 81B would be the limit before a reddish cast upset the color balance. Between digital color adjustments in scanning, and later, printing, there isn't really anything left to compare here.

    • @skaterat321
      @skaterat321 5 лет назад

      @@randallstewart175 thanks for the correction guys

  • @erminioottone2861
    @erminioottone2861 5 лет назад +6

    For me, only nd filters allowed. All the other stuff it's only gonna ruin the sharpness, color rendition ecc. of the lens.
    This filter is useful to shot tungsten balanced film during the day, but for "normal" c-41 film i wouldn't use it.

    • @zguy95135
      @zguy95135 5 лет назад +1

      The filter for Tungsten is an 85, this is an 81 warming which is basically a stronger skylight filter

    • @Zenger
      @Zenger 5 лет назад

      can you elaborate on why a heliopan warming filter can't outperform some nd filters?

    • @erminioottone2861
      @erminioottone2861 5 лет назад +1

      Zenger warming filters and ND filters are two different things... ND filters block some ammount of light without varying the colours of the image.

    • @LucienHughes
      @LucienHughes 5 лет назад +1

      The whole point is that it "ruins" the colour rendition of the lens.

  • @-grey
    @-grey 5 лет назад

    The warming filter just makes everything look Portra.

  • @ItisBean
    @ItisBean 5 лет назад

    Is that a LHSA edition M6?

  • @jspers_119
    @jspers_119 5 лет назад

    Just wondering, where are some of the places you went to in this video (like the swimming pool place) ???

  • @ashsi9625
    @ashsi9625 5 лет назад

    Anyone know the name of the song at 1:40? i searched LSOW's soundcloud for it but can't find it

  • @AnthonySchnitzel
    @AnthonySchnitzel 5 лет назад

    Makes me wonder: What filter would i need to shoot indoor with tungsten lights, with normal film ?

    • @Regsfoto
      @Regsfoto 5 лет назад +1

      To shoot "normal" film (I'm assuming you're referring to daylight film as normal film) you'd use an 80A (3200 to 5500K) or an 80B (3400 to 5500 K) or an 80C (3600 to 5500K) filter on your lens. Basically the 80A should be sufficient.

    • @AnthonySchnitzel
      @AnthonySchnitzel 5 лет назад

      @@Regsfoto Thanks a lot Steve !

  • @mamboferido4741
    @mamboferido4741 5 лет назад

    Does it affect the metering too much?

    • @Vabbian
      @Vabbian 5 лет назад

      with a 81B I'd add 1/3 stop to your metering.

  • @beachbum4691
    @beachbum4691 5 лет назад

    Exactly the insight I needed - Thank you :) Short but insightful, valuable, mini-vid', (Of the catch you out sort) Thanks :) and to others :) please hit that little bell so you get email advises of any new vids' ;)

  • @stuartbaines2843
    @stuartbaines2843 5 лет назад +2

    Your filter is going to record in camera slightly different wavelengths which
    Won"t be reproducible in PS. Cuts through haze, not that you would see on 35 lens.
    That LoMo film seems pretty good! Or just you lol

  • @rgrbrn
    @rgrbrn 5 лет назад

    💪🏻

  • @caponekingpinking9917
    @caponekingpinking9917 4 года назад

    Nikon p510 great point shoot

  • @prodbyscars
    @prodbyscars 5 лет назад

    2:19 where is that?

  • @julianvanderhoek
    @julianvanderhoek 5 лет назад

    hi gergo

  • @laurenceliu794
    @laurenceliu794 5 лет назад

    What gallery was that?

    • @GNOMEYBRO
      @GNOMEYBRO 5 лет назад +1

      think its the Whitechapel gallery cos he was in Aldgate

  • @diladmazmi4921
    @diladmazmi4921 5 лет назад

    What did i miss?

  • @JessTheAwe
    @JessTheAwe 5 лет назад

    Please tell me the location of the derelict swimming pool it looks sick

  • @jakemillward-davis2865
    @jakemillward-davis2865 5 лет назад

    Does anyone know what the name of the track beginning at 1:40

  • @someonemearth5197
    @someonemearth5197 3 года назад

    Try other camera filters. I use warming and hundrends of others.
    I been using film for over 40 years

  • @VishalVoraUK
    @VishalVoraUK 5 лет назад

    A warming filter, makes things warmer. Hmmm.

  • @vectorhunter4659
    @vectorhunter4659 5 лет назад

    DO! Hasselblad 500CM! please!

  • @sebsandersfilm
    @sebsandersfilm 5 лет назад +1

    Which Leica do you have? And which do you recommend for my first Leica?

    • @gregmcknight5183
      @gregmcknight5183 5 лет назад

      Sebastian Sanders it looks like an MP in my opinion, I could be wrong. How much are you trying to spend? Do you want a film or digital Leica? Also have you used a ranger finder before?

    • @BennettIsAmazing
      @BennettIsAmazing 5 лет назад +2

      M6 Leica Historical Society of America special edition with black paint finish and black dot. He's got an MP winder on it (and a MP finder?). One of a shortlist of 3 dream cameras for me hence my keen eye.

    • @NegativeFeedback
      @NegativeFeedback  5 лет назад

      @@BennettIsAmazing this one

    • @BennettIsAmazing
      @BennettIsAmazing 5 лет назад

      @NegativeFeedback Was it the one at Richard Caplan?

    • @NegativeFeedback
      @NegativeFeedback  5 лет назад

      BennettC I bought it on Facebook a while ago

  • @Mellow262_
    @Mellow262_ 5 лет назад

    I wish I can afford this expensive camera lol

  • @andreapresutti1829
    @andreapresutti1829 5 лет назад

    2:22 oof

  • @Wisudadwipana
    @Wisudadwipana 5 лет назад

    Am I the first one who watch this in Indonesia?

    • @NegativeFeedback
      @NegativeFeedback  5 лет назад +4

      Quite likely

    • @Wisudadwipana
      @Wisudadwipana 5 лет назад

      @@NegativeFeedback just got the notification when I'll go sleep cause it's 1 am in the morning already. Anyway I miss your old backsongs haha can't wait for the next week ⚡

  • @lordkambing810
    @lordkambing810 5 лет назад

    Filters all the way. Photoshop is blasphemy. Better shoot with digital if you want to photoshop things.