AUTOCANNON SPG IS INSANE in World of Tanks!
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
- Wargaming is testing autocannons in World of Tanks with the Overwhelming Fire event in the arcade cabinet! They are also testing AUTOCANNON SPGS!
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I want to point out that this is how gold works on blitz and people still use it it doesn’t become useless like some people say it prevents gold spam and still allows you to pen heavy armor but comes at a cost of damage meaning if you can force opponents to fire gold you are still rewarded by taking less damage.
If you do like this and just this. You buff all the heavys and nerf everything else...
as a blitz player, i think that doesnt really work in pc for the Armor powercreep has gotten to a point that gold is the new silver round- no actual "wp" and goldspam, like Type 5 H, makes it hard to nerf the gold round's statistics while maintaining a reasonable way to kill them.
Well yeah. Nerfing gold damage requires rebalance most tanks with armour. To actually make those who use basic round capable of utilizing their skills and game knowledge
It works on Blitz because any potential armor power creep is mitigated by 80% of the player base being either borderline r3tarded or literal children lol
@@adeath94no this needs to happen and weak spots need to be reintroduced.
Imagine adding the Katyusha to the normal game mode with this mechanic. That would be amazing
Yes
Amazingly disgusting and annoying, that is
@@adventure_skaut, kind of. If they nerfed the range by a lot, then it wouldn't be so bad. Katyushas would probably only be able to go about 30-40 km/hr. That is slower than quite a number of tier 6-8 arties. That is another example of how to balance it. Don't forget... they would probably have longer reloads too.
@@danielfeinour9611also the Katyusha can't turn while standing still. Same goes to german nebelwelfer equipped halftracks if they decided to add them in.
@@danielfeinour9611 about 40-60sec reload depending if it's Andryusha or Katyusha
Be real. The batchat rocket launcher is the most fun you had in arty. If they would add it to the game, there would be several in every game. In the overwhelming fire the queue was 4 heavy tanks - 230 spgs.
I think the heat mechanic has the best chance to get in the game. Sounds similar to the italian tanks that reload slower the deeper into the mag you go. Heat mechanic could allow a heavy burst of fire, followed by a cooldown but if you desperately need a few rounds, the lowered rate of fire of the gun cooling down a little between shots could be enough to survive an engagement. So initially fast dpm that slows down rapidly as the gun heats up.
the new Japanese heavies will have this type of "overheating" mechanic to them, though in a different way.
Opposite of real life
QB breaking his damage record with the Stug, and didn't even notice! ;)
I was looking for this comment😂
That artillery unit is amazing for just the visuals alone. It looks so much FUN and it makes for a great viewing experience too. Would love to see you playing this non-stop.
I have a feel, the rocket artillery might be something the keep.
If that's true, Im done with this crap show.
oh HELL no they better not.
Some ppl here like their camping spot. Dont touch their camping spot. It is the only way they can be good😂
I hope so haha
Lol I'm not playing this garbage already 😂😂😂
there would have been also realistic vehicles they could have added like the ZSU-57-2 with a twin 57m gun.
Yep. The problem is 57mm guns are quite weak in our game.
So ZSU-57-2 won't be a playable thing.
You see, it would have too little damage in the salvo to deal a serious damage and it has no armour so it could just stand and shoot continuously. And it's pen sux, so it would do nothing against any of the heavies.
Autocannons could be a tool to hold EBRs a bit. But that is one too specialised thing to survive in random battles.
@@azgarogly the PTV in this mode also has two 57mm guns though
@@MagicMuffin63 Are these guns something similar to ZiS-4?
Nope, not exactly. One has 190 mm of penetration, the other has 112. Autocanon has reduced alpha, 70 vs 85, but there are 15 shots in the clip.
These guns exists in parallel universes. I doubt they can be reasonably aligned one to another in one game.
Though WG has already done such a tricks when even the same gun on different classes had totally different characteristics, I hope they'd avoid such a things in the future.
Again, if we look at historical 57-2, it has an AP round with penetration around 100 mm. WG tries to keep table characteristics of the tanks at least roughly somewhere near the real ones.
@@azgaroglywot is no where near realistic anymore.
Begleitpanzer 57
5:20 fun fact - Polish client is not mentioning needing to win. It is still required to win a game playing Polish client, WG just doesn't bother to translate properly and address this bug as it is present in every arcade cabinet I have checked. I made sure they are informed but they still fail to fix the bug, causing frustration among Polish players.
I think an interesting idea to stop gold spam would be to put a limit cap on how much gold each tank can load. I think this would make players think about what ammo they load for what they shooting at and not spam gold. Also with this idea ammo loadouts for tiers might need to be a thing.
My Fav was the fact that since this a "FUN Game Mode" peeps were trolling their SPG around in TD mode and having fun at close combat with those rockets! Was awesome to watch!
That auto SPG was murderous on point blank range. Best tank in the arcade mode.
Man, I would love this SPG. The amount of tears I could cause with it.....gets me excited.
WoT Console player here.
We have a split "match making system" one where its "closer to" what is available to PC but still vastly different in its own right - essentially the WW2 Era. Most of the Console community hates how WG Console devs have handled the game.
Then we have the Cold War Era which goes up to Modern tanks. Think War Thunder tanks with WoT gameplay.
The reason I bring this up, is due to the fact that WoT Console has tanks with rockets and ATGMs.
WW2 tanks, like the Japanese Heavies, the Maus, E100, M6 and other tanks that have alternative cannon modles can actually USE those guns.
The M3 Lee can use the 37mm cannon up on its bulb as well as the main 75mm. The 37mm ALSO has an upgrade module for a better cannon. The T1 Heavy gets to use its 37mm, same with the M6! The E-100 and Maus get to use their 7,5cm guns.
And come August 15th were getring flamethrowers! So the Churchill 1 can use its flamethrower on the hull!!!
I really am not excited about all of what I said, any use of an exclamation point is sarcasm.
But I highly advise those that are curious, look into the types of tanks we have on Console because I truly feel like its a testing ground for wierd ass mechanics to be thrown into the PC client at times. Like....we had a Borsig with a 3 round auto-loader called the Iron Rain. It's bassically a tier 8 version of the WT AUF E-100...which the Waffletractor is still in console. I used to take pride in it, but its not good for balance.
Rocket arty was fun up close, killed two tanks in less than 60 second to save another player
Ok, but the T62A-Sport and the football mode is the one we miss the most- first iteration
I agree 100000%
chaffee race
Ugh I loved soccer mode
gimme fulltime frontline and I'm happy
Really, don't care about football mode. For me it was quite boring.
The moon ball tanks, the billiards, was a bit of fun, but also quite meh.
The recent Mars mode was better, had a bit of fun there.
8bit stories. That was fun. I would like to see it again.
And the Chaffee race, that was really good. Best of them fun modes.
I feel you've overlooked one major difference between an autocanon and a large shell. The large shell, you just creep out far enough to fire it, then immediately pull back into cover. The autocanon requires you to stop and spend time exposed as you unload, giving your opponent more opportunity to do return damage.
I think premium being more pen less damage is an awesome idea. Be nice if they brought that in permanently and brought that to console as well
But then if the type 5 heavy and maus got into a fight with you.Its already a disadvantage because they hit for 500 but you can only hit about 340 to them so it substantially increase the power of well armored tanks
that's the stuff in Wotb
Yeah, make heavies even stronger 👍
Not to mention the HE nerfs so there isn’t a way to outrade a type 5 or maus
@Nebulachadlazzar Thats the point. Well armored tanks are slow. They should have the advantage if you fight them at close range in a something not armored.
Should be called “Katyusha” or “Stalin’s Organ”
Autocannon Arty is how it should always be. the salvo fire is wonderful. each hit doesnt need to be huge, but that salvo is intimidating and helps curb the rng brutality of missing and waiting a minute. this lets 'every' salvo do something with the same aiming skill. TBH the autocannons on current tanks (the JPE100 looks and feels silly) is meh. But the salvo mechanic for SPG is amazing if that is secretly what they are secretly testing.
it's SO overtuned versus almost all the other tanks in the mode. I was dominating in my EBR and one salvo rekt me on the move in moments, so awesome.
Thunderclap and Prut are my favorites and seem meta in NA.
Rocket arty is cool. High damage, poor accuracy plus high visibility but with good maneuverability brings an interesting dynamic to the game.
It's basically normal BC 155 58 but buffed with area coverage, damage output and reload speed. BC 155 58 plays exactly like this except nothing happens when you fire the gun and a new clip takes a minute to load in.
tbh, considering how light damaging and minimal to no stun that the rocket arty deals, I could EASILY see myself playing that tank in the random queue. My word, would that be fun :)
A premium tank with a 57 mm gun with 80-100 damage like the AMX 13 57, with 600-800 alpha outburst followed by a 23-25 second reload time might be possible. Doesn't the premium tier 9 light tank, the Char Mle. 75, behave in a similar way too already?
"Prut" means fart in Danish. Pretty much sums up my feelings on the introduction of autocannons.
"He fires his rockets at me, I fire my rockets at him..." and the viewers cant see anything cos of how you had the view
" "Flutters of Fun" "!......Love it!
This reminds me of the suggestion/spit balling years back with arty, where you would, as the arty player, spawn with 3 of the same artilery piece you came to battle with. All move and fire in unison, but each is checked on its own rng, but all aiming at the same target. Gives "accuracy by volume" to help offset the horror of innaccurasy we currently have, while giving a chance to ACTUALLY potentially kill a target whe you get cornered. If you find the arty group (should be easier, 3 trails to follow) you have to kill all 3, which again gives them a chance to actually be able to fight back. More impact for the player, more points to farm for the enemy, more interesting overall gameplay.
Obviously never hapened, and having 3x the arty would increase computer demand, but maybe somethibg more to it.
I always thought the old spg mechanics were not as bad as people were claiming, I never minded the high dmg considering the rng involved. So, an autocannon spg ? Why not, it's hilarious to play in this game mode and with good scaling, it can also be part of the random que without many issues. And all the other gun mechanics are awesome too, if they can balance them.
In the random queue? I tried out the MRLS here but it should definitely NOT go into the random queue. It’s fine in these limited time events
Duck no. They have begun to nerf chief 279e etc. Arty has no place left in the game
Fun fact about the obj 143 "prut". Prut means fart in Danish, so me and some friends had a good laugh while playing it.
Maybe you remember QuickyBaby but a long time ago they were considering adding the Panzerwerfer and Katyusha truck into the game. I can't remember if it was just and April fools but I'd imagine the rocket artillery is a test for something like those.
I enjoyed the hell out of this Event. SPG were actually fun to play.
04:55 Big Tank with a comicly small Minigun 🤣 ngl i kinda feel attack
Maybe they're testing auto cannons for all the secondary guns that are only aesthetic at this time. Like the guns on the OI and T-28
I think this really is interesting , I'd quite like them to add with this kind of mechanic into the game. Seems fun and hopefully will be when its released as long as it's balanced I'm happy!
The best one is the E100, a lot of armor, and like 2000 dmg in 2 secs
But the funniest is the ebr 💅🏿
All these autocannon stuff reminds me of when WG gave away the T7 combat car for everyone for free: So many shells that the servers themselves were lagging. You got into a battle with like 12 or more on each team, and you just knew when first contact happened solely by the amount of lag that was generated when those things got firing...
For those unaware, the T7 Combat Car was a tier 2 gift tank with a 50 round autocannon and a very rapid rate of fire.
Watching in 360p... ..That's how early I am 😂
That is the only selection too, no 240p or 144p
Wouldnt Surprise me if they added things like Begleitpanzer 57, ZSU-57-2 or BMP2 in the future at T10
Light vehicles with fast firing cannons, low damage per shot, avarage mobility and no armor
Damn I just witnessed how cool it is to watch a game live and then here again and be like damn I was there when it happened LMAO
I enjoyed waiting for enemy arty to fire then firing a salvo at them blind.
Usually netted a kill
It's been said already but WoTBlitz figured out gold rounds MANY YEARS AGO.
Gold rounds should trade damage for increased penetration. It's not a huge tradeoff but it works great.
I would love the rocket artillery to come in random queue at t8 as a prem
Put in a Nebelwerfer and make it stationary and watch the bombardments commence!
Played the arty during this event and it was the most fun, i would play this if it was added to the game, the salvo is fun.
Now that I think about it you can really fit a GAU-8 on a Jag E-100
This tank really fits into QB playstyle 🥰🥰
With nerfing gold rounds i think it would make sense to nerf their damage as heat and APCR rounds really dont do alot of damage inside the tank compared to a Solid AP round since most AP rounds are much larger and heavier. so it would be a cool change to see the lowering of Gold rounds damage for the increased pen and vice versa of ap round doing more damage and less pen.
I would like the arty and the thermal shutdown gun on a tank.
Knowing wargaming, the only one of these tanks thats going to see the light of day is the fracking artillery
They have auto firing rocket Arty in Console Modern Mode. All the tanks have larger HP pools in Modern. Console Modern also has True Vision. Even if you can't "spot" a Vehicle as long as they are in your line of sight you can see and shoot them.
These tanks look like so much fun to play.
That mini gun jagdpanzer is fun to play, but I keep on coming back to the arty, it does so much damage so fast, and it shreds tracks like there’s no tomorrow
The teams in that mood. Are plying like the tanks are tier4. Kept getting rolled
I would love if WoT would get Rocket Launcher Artillery in the game, things like the Katyusha or the Panzerwerfer and others!
SPGS are bad enough already. And I’d like to say Autocannon spgs DO not exist (it’s called anti aircraft guns). Let’s make the Arty problem worse by making them fire 20mm machine gun rounds!
Edit: looks like the Auto SPGS are rocket vehicles which do exist. Either way, it is not a good direction that world of tanks and wargaming is going.
this shows, people WANT arty. they WANT old school arty even.
i really hope they add the PTVs style of machine gun to the low tier vehicles since the low tier machine guns were just made in a makeshift fashion from normal autoloaders. but knowing WG they will probably make this only for a tier 8 prem and a new tech tree tier 8-10
I think gold rounds should do like 60-75% damage of a normal shell. In real life most AP rounds are smaller in order to penetrate. Not including damage to crew, a smaller penetration round should cause less damage to the tank
Gold rounds should act as how they do in blitz, basically giving you better pen at the cost of reduced damage
Wargaming Listen?? To the players?? Surely you're joking QB
This is crazy. I was thinking yesterday when I found this game mode out. I was like :oh, why didn't qb make a vid on it. This is so coincidental
That thunder clap didn't run out of ammo,his gun got overheated. One tip for thunder clap is that you should fire rapid until the heat level goes orange and then stop firing until it goes down and then fire again.Cuz the time it takes to cool down is basically half the reload time.
Honestly, the Thunderclap is the best tank out of them all. The overheat mechanic is easily managed, and having such a huge magazine means you can keep fighting and taking shots even while your enemies are waiting on a reload. Not to mention it seems like a lot of people just don't know where to aim against a Thunderclap when they're facing frontally, which is weird because it has two giant drum mags on either side of the turret that have no armor and are hitboxes.
You deserves upvotes. Getting the Thunderclap overheated is failing the tank
I'm a bit late with this, but could it be that WG is experimenting with increasing hitpools of all tanks, as a balance mechanic for some op premium tanks so they can "nerf" them without actually nerfing them?
mutually assured destruction @15:30 lol
The batchat rocket arty is scary. It is arty. It is fun! What is the world (of tanks) coming to? Hope they implement it with some tweaks tbh.
“Me after watching this video”
Me: What the hell did I wake up too!?
You dont have to stop... Drive it "active" and you will see^^ even at fullspeed it sends :D
can you do a updated vid on the is3 and the lines? new f2p run would bring many new players or returning players back. (played since 2011)
this game looks so damn pretty graphics-wise
It's the one thing where WoT shines. I can play 4K @144fps on a geforce 2080, where other 4K games would only manage ~40-50fps
This might be a a precursor to 30/50 caliber secondary guns?
This mode is way more fun and dynamic than the random queue i must say
I might not play the PC version of World of Tanks but do play on Console and we do have Autocannon's in Cold War for the IFV'S and I play on PS5
I feel like they are going to go into more wheeled vehicles like the LAV-25, BTR, etc with their autocannons since they put in the GSOR 1010
Pretty nice idea with less damage on premium rounds but more penetration 👍🏻
That would be an monumental change, they would need to go over every tank module and shell inside the game to balance it for that
Otherwise it would just make the heavily armoured tanks even more dominant, when others are forced to use ammo that does less damage just to pen them
Well that’s how it is on blitz already, so It would definitely work, as it prevents gold spam
its free that's why damage is less. just to regulate that people don't go bonkers. i wont choose simple round if high penetrating had more damage. its very simple thing to understand. how they do it for random matchmaking is by raising the cost of shell.
Looks better than I thought it was going to. At least it's not just one-shotting enemy tanks
Keep it as a game mode entirely separate from standard WoT.
They are doing good rounds like steel hunter so you have to choose penetration or damage
Even though I play war thunder this mode looks fun
I am still hoping to get premium SPG once...
i started playing WoT around 2021, and US SPG was the first thing i maxed to tier X, i want premium 8th SPG ;-;
Prepare to be bombarded by insane artaphobic donkeys.
And WG seems to be "listening to their players" so not only we won't see prem-8 artillery any time soon, but no new tech tree artillery also.
Artahaters are loud as every kind of idiots are.
You are the reason why wot is in a bad state stop playing arty and play a real tank
on the gold round topic. balance it to only be able to carry like 20% of rounds as prem. that will end up buffing armor
Then some tanks will be utterly useless.
@@azgaroglythey’d have to rebalance those tanks then, especially the one i think you’re talking about, though that needs rebalanced anyway
@@The_Racr1 And they will. Eventually. Maybe by 25th anniversary of the game.
some tanks should be buffed for pen and some tanks shouldnt be pennable in some situations anyways. you should have to go around and move. sitting in front of someone only showing super thicc armor is a fools play@@azgarogly
13:47 There should be an all arty option lol
I kinda miss the mini games with football and the one where u race to the cap circle into an epic fight at end
One of the "Tank" reload should have been like a minute worth
i would love to see gold rounds get reworked to be the same price as standard but just have good penn for mediocre damage.
Well if they do the same system as what is in wotblitz, basically less damage, more pen, but the rounds are still as expensive
cant wait for what jingles has to say abt this :D
Scary thing is... these tanks might find their way into the main game at some point. They bothered to model them. Just some stat tweaking and in they go.
When is the patch for QB to correctly pronounce substantial being implemented?
I always wait until the enemy's BC fired to snipe them down with my BC59 in smaller maps
Tons of fun only took an hour to get wins I enjoyed every minute mostly played medium tanks just go in and have fun
I can see rocket artillery being a part of wot 20 tbf
if you ever played console wot theres an tier 8 arty that also has a 3 burst mag called the equelizer basesed on an american arty (it exists very long in therer even longer than wheeled vics in wot pc)
they finally testing using all the gun on the tanks now I bet
I hoped xou will show us that auto arti in close q fight td mode in face
WG is amazing with these fun modes
It literally took me no time to finish this event. The E100 and Thunderclap is super good and I only lost 2 games I played and those were the ones where I didnt use one of these 2 overpowered vehicles
I liked that WoT feels like a real time version of chess. At least it used to. You dont blindly rush in. Hopefully they dont remove that with an update remotely like this.
Yeah, i did 16k damage in a game during this event and still lost so i didnt get progress for the bonds. Feels bad
there are 3 round burst artys on consol, so its not impossible
That arty puts The Equaliser to shame