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Hi Josh! I recently purchased the G14 with the rtx 4060, but I have a problem with advanced optimus. When I select dGPU only in Nvidia Control Panel the screen goes black and never lights up. Pressing Windows+P cycles thourgh Projecting option that way I can get my screen to work, it stays in optimus. Do you have any idea what could cause Advanced Optimus not working? In armoury crate I can select Ultimate mode so only dGPU is active, and it works after reboot.
@@JoshCravesTech I tried it, sadly didn't work. Still when switching to Nvidia GPU only screen goes black and stays black until the action is reverted. I asked Nvidia for help, they said the same thing, perform custom clean install after wiping all drivers. I hope Josh you have some other ideas what might work...
@@simonnagy1 did you ever mess with the “fake” second display in windows display settings at some point? You may need to do a Windows in-place reset. It’s like a Windows reset but without removing your files and apps. Before you do that though, hold the power button for 60 seconds with the laptop on to do a refresh of your drivers. If that doesn’t fix it then do the Windows refresh.
@@JoshCravesTech I tried the driver refresh thing, and again, for half a second it worked, it said "internal display connected to Nvdida Graphics" , but then screen went black again, the same thing happened. It seems like It could work, but some software command stops it after 0.5s. Anyway I will try the windows in-place reset tomorrow se if it helps solve the issue.
My g16 4090 is my favorite laptop I've ever owned, huge fan of the older g15, and the scars, had them all, but this G16 has ticked every box. Trackpad, speakers, screen, battery life (holy shit), gaming performance, portability, I mean damn. This is it. 🎉
@@DanielNieto3733 I owned the 4090 one and it was horrendous for gaming. For everything else, it was top notch. My CPU while gaming was constantly staying between 95-100C. Talked to ASUS support and they said it was normal. I was getting huge frame drops (From 110 to 20 FPS in NFS Unbound) after just 10 minutes of gaming. Read online and found out that this issue was very common in the new G16 laptops. Also read that ASUS' quality control is a joke. Returned it and bought a Lenovo Legion 7 Pro. Never been better.
Couldn't agree more on the RAM options! At this price point, they should come with 32GB, or at least unconventional 24GB. (Damn that laptop speaker music is such a bop!)
@@tico5058 I recommend disabling CPU boost on all modes and try limiting the wattage the cpu uses as well as undervolt it, battery life should be much better. I get about 8-7 hours at 80% charge with mine doing light web browsing and watching YT videos. I haven't tested a full charge yet but it should be around 10-9 hours for the same use case.
@@tico5058 im also just bought a 16gb version and can I asked if changing to Ghelper free more RAM space? and by how much cuz a bunch of asus service and AR running in the background take like 50% of the ram as soon as I open google
Man, I started watching laptop reviews when I had to buy a laptop in February. I bought a g14 2023 4060 then (for a grand on bestbuy). But didn’t stop watching reviews since then for some reason :) Just Josh, canucks, dave2d, Jarrod (sometimes) and you. Gradually I got bored with this topic, but man, I was waiting for your g14 2024 review so bad. There is something both entertaining and inspiring in the videos you do, keep it up, bro. Wish you will start doing it fulltime. P.S. I plan to upgrade to either g14 2024 4070 or the new px13 (hope to see your take on it).
That makes me happy to hear that you find the reviews entertaining. Definitely something I'm trying to do is differentiate myself from your average laptop/tech reviewer so that means a lot! I will definitely try to get my hands on a px13 as well. Thank you!
@@JoshCravesTechDoes the g14 2023 feel like a premium and sturdy monolithic laptop when compared to the g14 2024? Some wrote that the G14 2024 has a very soft lid and bottom. And they concluded that it would be better to have a plastic bottom than such thin metal. The MacBook is much thicker and more durable. By the way, if you have seen the G14 2022-2023 in gray and white - which one looks more premium, especially regarding the prismatic back? I don't have a chance to see them before purchasing. White looks nice, but it seems like it can be a big contrast and distracting when working. Thank you.
@@e0236 it’s definitely a somewhat thinner metal but it still feels very sturdy on the 2024 model. With how lightweight it is though, I’d almost say the 2023 is more “tanky”. Like I’d trust that one to take a fall pretty well because of how thick the magnesium alloy is. Hard to pick though because I really think both are plenty sturdy enough! To me the white looks better but the gray is more “business” if that’s your thing.
@@JoshCravesTech It’s interesting what could be the reason for the fact that for G14 2021-2023 there are a lot of complaints about a cracked case, while for G15/G16 2022/2023 for some reason there are no such complaints at all. Both G14 and G15,16 passed through your hands, did you notice the difference in the quality of the plastic? Perhaps g15/16 feels more durable? On G14 2022/2023, people's cases crack even with loose screws and very gentle handling and in just a week or a month. On G14 it literally produces a huge pile of topics and messages on Reddit. While on G15 and G16 it doesn’t show anything.
@@e0236 I think just in general people travel more with their G14’s so they’re abused more often. That and the G14 is a BIG seller. There are more G14’s sold than G15’s so it seems like you might just see a higher proportion because of that. Otherwise I’ve handled all of those and they’re identical in the quality. You’d have to be handling the laptop pretty recklessly to get a crack in it. People are bad about over-tighten screws too, that’s a big user issue. I’ve taken my G15/G14/G16 everywhere throughout the years and never experienced even a scratch on the chassis. And I’m not even super careful. I put stuff on top of my laptop bag, it falls over in the car, etc. still no damage.
I bought the Lenovo Legion 5 Slim OLED because it was half the price in my location as the G14 with a 4060. Next year, I’ll definitely get a G16 with a 5090 (whenever it’s released in these laptops), but now I’m extremely satisfied with the Legion.
That 1800p is needed for perfect scaling of 200%....Rather than fractional scaling of 150% or 175% which cause images or text to blur in some apps.So The Choice of display is good actually.
Wouldn't 200% need to be 4K? Or am I missing something? 1080 * 2 = 2160p. Also idk if it's just me but I haven't experienced scaling issues on Windows in years personally. Not something I look into much so maybe it's still a thing.
In this display's case the efective resolution we are getting is 1440x900 but multiplied by 2=2880*1800...this achieves perfect scaling without blurring/missing pixel edges,kinda like how apple does to it's retina displays. It's much more clearer than fractional scaling. We can always play in lower resolution to increase FPS,but this is just more important for productivity apps.
4050 NVDIA g14 white 32 gb 2024 for 2.2k ....best decision i made...remove armory and myasus then install ghelper,remove all the bloaters program ...now its performing really well and probably the best laptop i ever bought in my life so far
I would recommend that anyone looking to buy one go to a store and get some hands on time. I was convinced I'd want one (Zeph G16) from all the reviews, however, I found the build quality, the touch and feel of the device very 'consumer grade', if I can put it that way. Coming from a Dell Precision 7740 and a Surface 5 Pro, I found it very cheap feeling compared to those, let alone a Macbook. Not saying its a technically bad device, but it doesn't feel as premium as it looks in the review videos. Maybe that's not important to you at that price point, but for some it is, so do yourself a favour and go have a look in person 🙂
@rasundesilva6088 Still haven't made a choice yet. Busy evaluating the Snapdragon laptops for compatibility, the G16 with the AMD CPU is also an option. Tough time to make a choice.
@@JustifyJustinFunny you say that, I was looking at the G14/G16 coming from a surface 7 pro from 2019. The ASUS laptops seem better performance wise and a little cheaper than the new surface with snapdragon would have costed me in the spec I want. Let me know if you do find anything.
@@JustifyJustinI’m thinking of getting a g16 white 2024 the 4070 32gb ram and 2tb every damn Best Buy I go to doesn’t have any on display so I’m just going to have to wing iy
Honestly just stumbled across this video by accident and having the 2024 G16 myself, I absolutely loved this video. You did your research, you followed up on previous issues that were fixed and you talked about things that most reviewers don't talk about, but matter to the end user. I also really liked how you put other reviewers concerns about GPU TDP, fan noise and temps in persepctive and explained it in a way that was easy to understand. Kepp it up dude, really good job!
I found a G14 2023 (4060, IPS Display, 16GB RAM) on sale for 600$ less than normal price. Are the differences between the 2023 and 2024 models so great I should not take up this deal and wait for a sale on the 2024 models? (I wouldn't use any external displays and / or headphones, so display and speakers might matter) Thanks in advance for the input!
@@IbpInvestigator2 so the 2023 model was $600 less than the equivalent 2024? I mean that’s too good of a deal. I probably wouldn’t consider the 2024 at that point unless you happened to find one super discounted
I also thought so, as the chances of coming across such a sale, regardless of waiting time, might not be optimal. In the meantime it arrived and I also tested a 2024 version in a showroom, and frankly, I don't think the differences are worth enough for the price increase (considering the deal). Thank you for the opinion and help!
I previously bought the G16 Intel ultra 4090 and had it for a week. The FPS in the games I play were greatly held back by the cpu. I returned it and purchased a G14 instead. I was very pleased to have found the exact same FPS on the AMD 4070 G14. For half the price, more portability and in my opinion a better looking laptop. The G16 speaker grills were too large and I would rather have a num pad on the G16. $2900 vs $1700. Haven’t seen a difference and I love the G14. Just wish it had 240W usb charging and oculink. Hopefully next year will have 240w usb charging and thunderbolt 5, replacing the need for oculink.
Surface Pro 11 and Surface Laptop 7 seem to be absolute home runs, I can't remember the last time I saw so much positivity across the board surround windows laptops.
Damn bro this is probably the best review for any laptop ive seen. Ive been in shambles for a week now deciding what to get for college cuz its so sleek and good looking. you’ve honestly pushed me to get the G14/16, leaning more towards the 14 just because my experience with AMD has been pretty good.
I watched your G16 video and it helped me pull the trigger on an open box 2024 G14 1TB yesterday. However, I'm coming from a MBP from 2012 and have gotten really used to the Macbook feel. I travel a lot and would game occasionally on it since I have a 3080 desktop at home. Do you have any experience running games on the newer MBP via Crossover, Whiskey, etc? Your reviews are so well done! I can see your channel growing to 100k+ subscribers in no time!
this year I went from a Legion 5i with and I510300H and a 2060, and I bought the G14 (2023) 7940HS with a 4060, and oh my god, it may not be a 4070 or 4080 (honestly don't really need that kind of GPU), but my god this thing performance as a beast plugged in, and quiet, and chill when unplugged. I love this laptop so much, and when it comes time to upgrade, let's hope 5 years down the line, I know I'm just sticking with this G-line of laptops.
You earned a Like for the Ableton testing. Much appreciated. Can you comment on RAM usage in the test? I'm thinking of going with the G14, but concerned that I would have to pay more for add'l RAM since it's not upgradable. :(
A great comparison! What about quality control issues? Some reviewers pointed out wobbly touchpad with unsatisfying clicks on G16. In these thin high-performance laptops, I would also like to see the battery temperature under load, which decreases the longevity of the battery, and the SSD temperature under load, which may cause throttling.
I will consider adding those things in the future! But yes, qc issues seem to be sort of rare, but the most common one is definitely the trackpad on the G16. I have seen quite a few people now with the weird click like what mine had :(
Asus or Legion. There really is no other choice. Both excellent. I've always ended up with a Legion. But the Asus G & Flow series is phenomenal. I'll likely go Asus for my next one. Just for a change. You really can't go wrong with either brand.
What are your thoughts on the upcoming AMD variant of the G16 that’s dropping soon? What use case could you see that being a good choice over the G14 or G16 Intel variant?
If it has better battery life then it may be worthwhile, or significantly improved performance. I personally think it'll be maybe 10-15% more powerful than the Intel Core Ultra and I'm not sure how it's going to do with battery life. It might even be worse with it having more cores now, but we'll see! It's supposed to release around July 15th.
best review of these laptoops by far! still undecided between the last year's 4090 g14 or the 2024 4070 g14 - any thoughts on which would ideally be the most value?
@@tamxo2451 most future proof would definitely be the 4090 G14, but go for the new G14 if you don’t care about fps as much and just want luxury thinness, speakers, and metal body. I’m still daily driving the 4090 G14 personally though, it’s just so powerful and I’d miss having all that.
Hi Josh, I really love your reviews. Is it possible for you to compare the G14s (23 and 24) against a macbook air/pro? I know macbook's battery is unmatched but I'm really interested in knowing how close can the G14 get to a macbook experience once it's been thoroughly optimized through the G-helper. p.s absolutely love the gifs you throw in your reviews
I am following you from Iraq, from the capital, Baghdad .. I am confused between Zephyrus G14 2024 with Ryzen 9-8945HS, 4060 RTX, 32GB RAM and 1TB SSD for $1533 .. and between Zephyrus G16 2024 with Intel Core Ultra 9 185H, 4060 RTX, 32GB RAM and 1TB SSD for $2166 .. What do you think of both deals and which one do you recommend to me ? Just for the record, I don't play games I want it for programming, video editing, design, and productivity in general.
Yeah I'm genuinely curious where they'll go with this now. For the first year with this design they knocked it out of the park. Very excited for what 2025 holds!
I have the 2023 G14 with the 4070. I found that enabling dGPU only mode through nvidia control panel gave me way more power (sustained) to the gpu, while lowering cpu a tad. I got 13,000 on time spy for graphics and 11,402 for cpu
@@Parky-pm2sg the Duo is also good, it’s just in a different class of laptop. It’s quite a bit thicker and heavier than these. I think it only comes with a Ryzen HX CPU as well and those have some of the worst battery life of all laptops out there, lol 😂 But performance is out of this world on that thing!
Tough choice! It's about 10-15% more performance between the 4060 and 4070. However, you can get an open box excellent 4060 for just a little over $900 and that is just an insane deal.
@@jay.jay.1 depends on your budget and situation. Doesn’t really make much sense as far as performance since they’ll be about the same. But if you’re cool with paying a bit more to get upgraded chassis, speakers, display, etc. then sure!
@@directorz236 I think as long as you take precautions for basic OLED care then you can probably go through the whole life of the laptop without experiencing burn-in. They use an S-stripe subpixel layout, which is the best for preventing burn-in. Obviously I can’t guarantee it won’t happen, but it’s certainly one of the better panels.
@@leanderterang4181 not at all, it’s super hard to even notice. And only on large gray areas do you ever even barely see it. Nowhere near as bad as the “screen door effect” that you see on some touchscreen OLEDs out there.
@@JoshCravesTech just something the audience knows sounds good so they can hear a relative difference despite potential issues like microphone quality.
did they fix the 3rd fan then? i bought a g14 4070 model and that 3rd fans slightly higher frequency tone made me return it. thats how i ended up with the 4080 g14 2023 model as it was the same price at the time (i now swapped that for a 4090 model muwaha) but yeah that 3rd fan for me would continue to spin for 10 minutes after the other 2 main fans had turned off
Hell yeah man another video from you is another great day! I can't wait to see more reviews and videos! Also I know you probably think it's lame but if you could review the Asus Scar Strix 2024 I would appreciate it I really wanna buy it but you're the only reviewer I really trust with my purchases
I like your videos. They are well researched and edited very well. However, the little chuckle/vocal fry that you apply to every other sentence can get to be quite annoying and grating to the senses. Try to work on your delivery and eliminate that vocal strain/chuckle.
Awesome review as usual Josh! I feel the G16 4090 is better than 2023 g14 in almost everything: - Thinner laptop - Bigger screen while weight increase by only 200 grams !!! - Fan noise and thermals - Better battery - Oled screen - Better chasis and design - Larger touchpad the 2023 is better for the RAM and a negligible fraction of FPS, and smaller chassis in XY dimensions naturally. I feel kinda bad I didn't wait for the 2024 G16.
@@iKaBoZ820 I can totally get that! It’s really hard to say which one I like more. I think if I didn’t already have the G14 I’d probably go for the G16. VERY interested to see what they do next year
@@JoshCravesTech me too I think they set the bar so high, and this is a great thing! The g16 is exactly the perfect laptop that was in my dreams so many years ago. The g14 is still awesome and since most deep work/gaming I do over an ultrawide monitor, i don’t feel so bad about the screen being a little small.
@@animenerd8633 so since Intel has a much lower base clock (like 1.5 GHz or something), disabling boost makes it run at a crawl. In some games that don’t rely on CPU that might be fine but in others you might experience some serious hangups. For Intel Core Ultra it’s much better to just limit your CPU to like 12-15W instead if you’re trying to lower temps. And for the HX chips around 25-30W is pretty okay.
Hey man, great video, I bought a 4060 16gig g14 2024 model and I'm in love with it. I also installed G helper as per your video coz armoury create sucked. I know this sounds like an absolute headache of a request but would it be possible for you to leave your G helper profile settings in comments? I could not find any guides online (not ones that made sense to me anyway) and I really just want 2 modes. 1) for ultra battery saving where it's just light office work. 2) for plugged in maximum gaming performance. I'm asking because I've tried to fiddle with the settings more times than I can count and usually land up either not seeing any difference or I brick the damn thing.
visual mode set between 70-50%, disable cpu boost or set it to enabled efficient, limit the cpu wattage to 28w, optimized in gpu options, auto in refresh rate, disable slash and keyboard lighting on battery, that will get you around 10 to 12 hours of battery life depending on how much you push it
Sort of a tough one to answer cause it's hard to give a "one-size-fits-all" profile for those, but I definitely suggest watching my G-Helper video to get a better understanding! However this is my basic suggestion, at least a starting point. 1. Battery saving: - Silent/Eco mode - CPU boost disabled - 60Hz - Brightness below half, keyboard lights off or low - Leave CPU power limits checkbox UNCHECKED - Leave fan checkbox UNCHECKED on GPU tab, move GPU power slider and dynamic boost slider all the way down. Overclock set to 0 on both. - Advanced tab - set an undervolt of around -15. 2. Max Performance - Start with Turbo and make a new profile - Leave CPU power limits checkbox UNCHECKED (unless you have a desired CPU level to reach) - Check fans checkbox and set fans to max or a little higher than the stock turbo mode - GPU tab: set overclock to +150 / +200 - Slide GPU power tab and dynamic boost all the way right - Advanced tab - set undervolt of -15 again, or -20 and beyond if things don't crash Don't touch core clock limit or temp limit unless you know what you're doing it for. Most people don't need to touch the CPU sliders either unless again you know what you're doing it for. I see a lot of people mess up a lot by clicking that "apply power limits" checkbox without knowing why they did it. Hope this helps!
@@JoshCravesTech hi Josh, this is exactly what I needed , thank you so much man! I always fiddled with the CPU power limits as per your g helper video. Would it be recommended to just leave it then? Are the default power limit settings enough to limit power consumption in battery saver mode / silent mode. On the undervolting front that was what I wanted to know most so thanks for the advice on that. Will stick to -15 undervolt. Please keep up the amazing work on your videos, well edited, not too cumbersome on details that make them boring yet thorough enough to keep me informed, and ultimately just fun to watch! :)
4080 all day. I personally don't think the new AMD G16 will be all that impressive. I will be genuinely surprised if it excels in battery or performance, but I think it'll be around the same as the Intel Core Ultra.
I think they didn't give any config options this time because it is last year's GPU. Hoping they have better plans for 2025. 2023 Model of G 14 was actually really good but then again because of Nvidia they didn't get the pricing right in some regions. Now will they choose AMD again for next year? Let's see. In the US the maxed out version of G 14 (2024) costs $ 2000. In my country a 16GB RTX 4060 G 14 (2024) costs $ 2100. That's just something most people will not spend on.
@@fustyler the G14 doesn’t have an Intel Core Ultra version, only the G16 has that. But yeah both are excellent and I don’t have a strong preference of one over the other.
Amazing videos man! Hey question here - i'm using g16 2024 with 4090 with Ghelper: Can I use my laptop connected to a 32" monitor whilst it being closed without damaging the screen long term?
@@thomasbitsch5488 most of the exhaust comes out the back of the laptop so it should be fine. Personally I would leave it open just because I’m paranoid though 🤣
Yeah i thought so too lol! Im also paranoid! I Actually bought a really cool laptop stand where its suppose to hold my pc vertical with the lid closed - and on this specefic stand i can open the lid too, making room for that extra bit of suction that the pc needs from the keyboard.
I love my 2023 g16, I do wish it had the oled screen that the new ones have. But It stays amazingly cool when without a cooling pad compared what I’ve heard about the 2024 models.
Love your video man, Its great. I am stuck between G16 and the strix scar 16 2024 model in terms of display, The new scar has over 2000 dimming zones. Is there a visible image quality difference between an oled and a mini led ? What do you recommend overall bro, I really need to make a decision. Thanks.
Yeah that's a tough one! Those are two VERY different laptops in terms of performance and thickness/battery. The mini-LED will of course be brighter and I've heard the 2,000 dimming zones has made blooming even more hard to notice. Some people have told me they don't really see it at all. So for brightness the Scar wins. The OLED will still always have more "perfect" contrast in comparison, but just won't be nearly as bright. And of course the G16 is a much thinner and lighter laptop with good battery life, while the Scar is a thicc powerhouse with lower battery life.
I have the 2024 i9 4090 g16 and i keep having the light for the strip light keeps crashing and disappearing from armory crate when i try to use the sonic effect to work with audio anyone have this issue i dont see the sonic option in ghelp
Hey Josh honest question: with the discount right now on best buy, would you go with the G14 4060 16gb or G14 4070 32gb? Without the consideration of open box discounts which one would you get and why? For context, I mainly would use it for Valorant and normal everyday use. Also, would the G14 be sufficient to use as my PC at home if I were to connect it to my monitor and keyboard?
@@DaewooJeong-h2n I would go for G14 4070 32GB! More RAM, better GPU. Even at 90W, the 4070 will perform a little better. And it will do great as a home PC!
Will you be doing a full review of the 2024 G14 4070? I’m on the fence between that one or the 2023 G14 4080… not sure the OLED will make the difference for the lost gaming performance 🤔
@@jamesalmond4301 this is what I’m considering the review since almost everything is identical to the G16 other than performance and some little details. I’d recommend the 4080 G14 though personally if you want performance that you’ll feel comfortable with for years. The new one is great ONLY if you’re cool with the 4070. That is really the biggest limiting factor. Everything else about it is amazing.
@@JoshCravesTech I think I’ll end up with the 2024 model simply due to it being a more premium product. I can always play games at a lower resolution as you recommend. I think a dedicated video on the 2024 model would be great for those who just can’t decide between the two - I’ve seen on Reddit that a lot of people aren’t sure which one to get. One thing that is annoying is that in the UK the G14 doesn’t have the RGB backlit keyboard - annoying… Thanks for your help! Fantastic video.
awesome review man i've been interested in getting the 2024 g14 but do you think it could last me my 4 years in college? I previously bought an Asus Rog G16 in 2020 and it only lasted 2 years when the performance gradually worsened.
@@Heyebdhahr they perform about the same, you can see it in the performance charts! Very rarely does the 2024 model fall behind unless you play at the native res of 1800p
Things are so skewed here in Canada. We import these from the US so with exchange rates, we should be paying 35-40% more, but we are paying over double the price and i dont know why! The G16 with a 4070 and 32 GB (yes, we get that option) is $2,999. The 4080 is $3,999. And we dont get any RGB keyboard options which really annoys me. I still think i will go with the G16 4070 and pay for it for a long time. :(
Hi Great review. But I'm sensitive to screen flicker. I've heard the OLED has PWM under 60%. But uses DC dimming above 60%. I'm unfamiliar with that technology, could you plesase explain, it would be a big help. Thank you
Oh shoot I keep forgetting to mention DC dimming. Thanks to G-Helper, you can use DC dimming all the way to 0%! It uses software brightness/gamma settings to reduce the brightness of the display instead of relying on PWM. So the only downside is that below 60% you might not get the most "accurate" gamma, but the tradeoff is probably worth it to not experience PWM.
@@JoshCravesTech Thank you. It would be great if in future you metioned it in your great reviews. PWM effects more and more people these days, so it would be a big help.
Thanks for the super clear review! I'm going to buy the G16 16" 2024 and it comes in 2 colors as you mentioned (Eclipse Grey OR Platinum White). I was wondering which one is more durable? I mean if I want to sell it in a year or 2, is it going to show hand/finger wear ? (So the question is : What is the natural aluminium material color closer to?) Thanks :)
I was strongly considering the Yoga Pro 9i before, but after seeing so many reports and real-life reviews stating its battery life still leaves much to be desired with the same specs, I started to strongly consider something else. I haven't had a gaming laptop since an MSI GS with a 970 back in the day, and am still leery about OLED, but I think this laptop will really fit all of my needs: battery life for schooling, multi-tasking specs for how I use computers, and gaming specs for on-the-go gaming (and as a temporary stand-in if my desktop keels over before I can build a new one.) I do wish it was able to be optioned up to 64GB of RAM since it's soldered, it's quite odd that they aren't able to offer that when others of the same size can, and hiding 32GB behind an upgraded GPU many may not want is not the play (that's more of a Razer or Apple thing to do.)
It's a very Razer/Apple move to make people upgrade their GPU to get more RAM. And I love that they only did it in some regions like the US. Unless you're cool with waiting for the AMD model to release in a couple weeks. But yeah I'm glad someone understands my sentiment with the Yoga. I was even strongly considering it for myself until I did (way too much) research on what actual users were experiencing and saw the same stuff. Even chatted with a couple owners who ended up returning theirs. It's just really hard to beat the G16 right now. One thing I recommend is sticking to the Asus-provided drivers, at least for the Intel graphics for best battery life. Newer drivers seem to all affect battery in some way.
@JoshCravesTech I'll be honest, the AMD model G16 draws no interest for me. I'm honestly not even happy to be getting the Core Ultra chips with their NPUs, but at least they're not completely all in on AI/Co-Pilot Recall BS yet, unlike the AMD AI 9 HX 370 almost certainly will be. It's the same reason I have absolutely 0 personal interest in buying any of the new SnapDragon Elite X laptops and their Microsoft-sponsored spyware. They could be absolutely perfect laptops in every way for my needs and I still wouldn't. I was excited for the new Yoga, which did make some much needed improvements in terms of the port selection (last years Slim Pro 9i 16" was a joke, considering the 14" had better ports, which is why they killed it off), but has been a disappointment otherwise. It has a great screen and webcam, but nothing else really on offer. As expensive as the G16 will be here in Canada, if it fits almost all of my checkboxes, it's worth the cost.
@@sjewkes1 Yeah this AI marketing fluff is getting out of hand, lol. I'm also not super interested in the AMD model. I have a hard time believing that it's going to be a huge improvement anyways. More cores/threads is great to see for AMD on laptops, but I don't think it's gonna be a game changer.
@@JoshCravesTechIt is deeply concerning how much of it is making its way into desktop hardware as well, but we'll have to see how long that bid lasts given the average users feelings on or usage of AI. I'm honestly shocked with how well-rounded the Intel version is, given how badly Intel has been doing in the last 10 years, but their Core Ultra lineup is surprisingly competent thus far for laptops. I'll probably end up snagging an AMD model of something smaller with mini-LED for maximum portability, longevity, and battery life as a travel device, but based on reviews the G16 is shaping up to be what I'd hoped the Yoga was, albeit with an OLED. Its webcam and screen brightness seem to leave something to be desired but these are minor items really.
Been hearing a lot of talk about the 4060 and 4070 G16 configurations having issues with a high-pitched whine from the third fan as opposed to the vapor chamber in higher configurations. Personally, I don't need a 4080/4090 nor do I have the budget. Otherwise the G16 seems like the perfect laptop! Do you think this issue is overhyped, or should those of us who dont have the money for the 4080 look elsewhere for a new laptop?
@@0TheoreticalPhysics0 the issue is overhyped for sure. There is definitely a chance you could have a whiney third fan but it doesn’t seem to affect the majority of laptops. A lot of people have also said that recent bios updates fixed the fan noise a lot. I’m assuming Asus re-tuned these particular G16’s so that the third fan stays the lowest in RPM’s.
just grabbed the g14 4070, ryzen9, 32gb ram for 1600, thinking it out for the g16 4070, 16gb ram, ryzen 9 just want a bigger screen mainly for gaming. cant go wrong for either. This laptop is so premium loving g16 is 1700. where they dropped the ball is the res. i feel like the g16 should have the 3k res while the g14 should have the 2.5 res. Is what it is. Great laptops none the less, you cant go wrong.
Yeah it's weird that the G14 had the higher res of the two. Just panel choices were slim I guess. Hopefully there are more options in the coming years as OLED gets better
I am thinking of buying a laptop but confesed between asus rog zephyrus G16 2024 with ultra 9 and 32 gb with 4070 vs asus rog strix G16 2024 with i9-14th with 4070 and 32 gb ram. One more think do you also think that rog strix laptop doesn't have a optimised graphics card and thermals.
Two VERY different laptops! The Zephyrus is all about portability, battery life, and being extremely premium (CNC aluminum, super thin and light), while the Strix G16 is more about raw power. The GPU's will perform about the same, but the G16's CPU has much more power to it, so in CPU-bound games like Counterstrike, Valorant, or Fortnite that might prove to be useful. The Strix will run a little bit cooler too because of how thick it is. Personally I'd get the Zephyrus though because the Strix only makes sense with a 4080/4090 GPU to me, where it can really stretch its legs.
@@Abil1208 correct, they all do! You can definitely make the speakers sound better than stock. And same goes for the new ones too 😅 the 2023 still isn’t bad by any means though! Very happy with mine and still daily driving
@@616lichking the oled care options in Armoury crate are just Windows settings. And the others like pixel shift/pixel refresh cannot be changed as they are baked in the bios anyway
Ive been looking too buy a 2023 g14 zephyrus with a 4090 but I can't find it anywhere at all. Would you have any pointers for where to find it, or if you are selling yours?
I think the g14 2024 rtx4070 is gonna be my new laptop, do you think in black friday well be more affordable? Or in usa is there a different web but ebay where can I find that laptop cheaper? G14 2024 or g16 2024 rtx4090 are my options
Yeah the 2024 G14 is a beauty. It will definitely go on sale Black Friday. It's already been on sale on Best Buy multiple times, including right now. You can get an open-box excellent G14 4070 for only $1600.
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Hi Josh!
I recently purchased the G14 with the rtx 4060, but I have a problem with advanced optimus. When I select dGPU only in Nvidia Control Panel the screen goes black and never lights up.
Pressing Windows+P cycles thourgh Projecting option that way I can get my screen to work, it stays in optimus.
Do you have any idea what could cause Advanced Optimus not working?
In armoury crate I can select Ultimate mode so only dGPU is active, and it works after reboot.
@@simonnagy1 Try installing DDU to completely remove your Nvidia graphics driver and then clean install the latest one directly from Nvidia
@@JoshCravesTech I tried it, sadly didn't work. Still when switching to Nvidia GPU only screen goes black and stays black until the action is reverted.
I asked Nvidia for help, they said the same thing, perform custom clean install after wiping all drivers.
I hope Josh you have some other ideas what might work...
@@simonnagy1 did you ever mess with the “fake” second display in windows display settings at some point? You may need to do a Windows in-place reset. It’s like a Windows reset but without removing your files and apps. Before you do that though, hold the power button for 60 seconds with the laptop on to do a refresh of your drivers. If that doesn’t fix it then do the Windows refresh.
@@JoshCravesTech I tried the driver refresh thing, and again, for half a second it worked, it said "internal display connected to Nvdida Graphics" , but then screen went black again, the same thing happened.
It seems like It could work, but some software command stops it after 0.5s.
Anyway I will try the windows in-place reset tomorrow se if it helps solve the issue.
I ultimately bought a G14 due to this review. Answered every question I had and then some! Thanks!!
@@TheHG210 thank you!!
which version the 2023 or 2024
Is it good
My g16 4090 is my favorite laptop I've ever owned, huge fan of the older g15, and the scars, had them all, but this G16 has ticked every box. Trackpad, speakers, screen, battery life (holy shit), gaming performance, portability, I mean damn. This is it. 🎉
@@jesf570 it’s a beast!
What about warming up? Is that a problem? I've read that this makes the battery last less.
@@DanielNieto3733 I don't own one yet, but it's nothing to worry about, trust me.
@@DanielNieto3733 I owned the 4090 one and it was horrendous for gaming. For everything else, it was top notch. My CPU while gaming was constantly staying between 95-100C. Talked to ASUS support and they said it was normal. I was getting huge frame drops (From 110 to 20 FPS in NFS Unbound) after just 10 minutes of gaming. Read online and found out that this issue was very common in the new G16 laptops. Also read that ASUS' quality control is a joke. Returned it and bought a Lenovo Legion 7 Pro. Never been better.
hey! this is the one i was thinking of getting, how much battery life do you typically get from just general use?
You’re good at reviewing. I came here from a Reddit post of your video comparing laptop displays. Great work. Do more, bro!
@@HeavyD0924 thank you!!
Couldn't agree more on the RAM options! At this price point, they should come with 32GB, or at least unconventional 24GB. (Damn that laptop speaker music is such a bop!)
G14 4080 2023 with Mini LED is the unicorn but unfortunately just as rare
@@exar8355 yeah I don’t even know where you can get that model if you’re in the US
regarding the prices, i'd rather get the oled instead😅
I think it's available in India, oddly, but possibly nowhere else. (And a wonderful video, as always!)
We got it here in Canada for $3699 LOL
@@exar8355 That's the thing it didn't make sense here for most buyers since there are more moderate gamers and the price was too high.
You helped me finally settle on getting a G14 for college. Thanks for the amazing review!
hey have you bought it? If you had, would you share me your experience with it?
@@tico5058 I recommend disabling CPU boost on all modes and try limiting the wattage the cpu uses as well as undervolt it, battery life should be much better. I get about 8-7 hours at 80% charge with mine doing light web browsing and watching YT videos. I haven't tested a full charge yet but it should be around 10-9 hours for the same use case.
@@tico5058 im also just bought a 16gb version and can I asked if changing to Ghelper free more RAM space? and by how much cuz a bunch of asus service and AR running in the background take like 50% of the ram as soon as I open google
@@tico5058 Just for reference, what kind of games do you play and what's the usual fps on those?
I have the G16 and the screen wobble is totally fine, some reviewers defo showed a bad wobble but i have none. Great review mate
@@Corko11 agreed! Thank you 🙂
Man, I started watching laptop reviews when I had to buy a laptop in February. I bought a g14 2023 4060 then (for a grand on bestbuy). But didn’t stop watching reviews since then for some reason :) Just Josh, canucks, dave2d, Jarrod (sometimes) and you. Gradually I got bored with this topic, but man, I was waiting for your g14 2024 review so bad. There is something both entertaining and inspiring in the videos you do, keep it up, bro. Wish you will start doing it fulltime. P.S. I plan to upgrade to either g14 2024 4070 or the new px13 (hope to see your take on it).
That makes me happy to hear that you find the reviews entertaining. Definitely something I'm trying to do is differentiate myself from your average laptop/tech reviewer so that means a lot! I will definitely try to get my hands on a px13 as well. Thank you!
bro, there is an actual difference between these marketing review and yours.... BIG UPP
Thanks!
@@JoshCravesTechDoes the g14 2023 feel like a premium and sturdy monolithic laptop when compared to the g14 2024?
Some wrote that the G14 2024 has a very soft lid and bottom. And they concluded that it would be better to have a plastic bottom than such thin metal. The MacBook is much thicker and more durable.
By the way, if you have seen the G14 2022-2023 in gray and white - which one looks more premium, especially regarding the prismatic back? I don't have a chance to see them before purchasing. White looks nice, but it seems like it can be a big contrast and distracting when working. Thank you.
@@e0236 it’s definitely a somewhat thinner metal but it still feels very sturdy on the 2024 model. With how lightweight it is though, I’d almost say the 2023 is more “tanky”. Like I’d trust that one to take a fall pretty well because of how thick the magnesium alloy is. Hard to pick though because I really think both are plenty sturdy enough! To me the white looks better but the gray is more “business” if that’s your thing.
@@JoshCravesTech It’s interesting what could be the reason for the fact that for G14 2021-2023 there are a lot of complaints about a cracked case, while for G15/G16 2022/2023 for some reason there are no such complaints at all. Both G14 and G15,16 passed through your hands, did you notice the difference in the quality of the plastic? Perhaps g15/16 feels more durable? On G14 2022/2023, people's cases crack even with loose screws and very gentle handling and in just a week or a month.
On G14 it literally produces a huge pile of topics and messages on Reddit. While on G15 and G16 it doesn’t show anything.
@@e0236 I think just in general people travel more with their G14’s so they’re abused more often. That and the G14 is a BIG seller. There are more G14’s sold than G15’s so it seems like you might just see a higher proportion because of that. Otherwise I’ve handled all of those and they’re identical in the quality. You’d have to be handling the laptop pretty recklessly to get a crack in it. People are bad about over-tighten screws too, that’s a big user issue. I’ve taken my G15/G14/G16 everywhere throughout the years and never experienced even a scratch on the chassis. And I’m not even super careful. I put stuff on top of my laptop bag, it falls over in the car, etc. still no damage.
I bought the Lenovo Legion 5 Slim OLED because it was half the price in my location as the G14 with a 4060. Next year, I’ll definitely get a G16 with a 5090 (whenever it’s released in these laptops), but now I’m extremely satisfied with the Legion.
Nice! That is also a great laptop. G16 with a 5090 is gonna go crazy though 100%.
That 1800p is needed for perfect scaling of 200%....Rather than fractional scaling of 150% or 175% which cause images or text to blur in some apps.So The Choice of display is good actually.
Wouldn't 200% need to be 4K? Or am I missing something? 1080 * 2 = 2160p. Also idk if it's just me but I haven't experienced scaling issues on Windows in years personally. Not something I look into much so maybe it's still a thing.
In this display's case the efective resolution we are getting is 1440x900 but multiplied by 2=2880*1800...this achieves perfect scaling without blurring/missing pixel edges,kinda like how apple does to it's retina displays. It's much more clearer than fractional scaling. We can always play in lower resolution to increase FPS,but this is just more important for productivity apps.
Waiting to see how the Strix Point G16 will be
@@McDowell666 same!
4050 NVDIA g14 white 32 gb 2024
for 2.2k ....best decision i made...remove armory and myasus then install ghelper,remove all the bloaters program ...now its performing really well and probably the best laptop i ever bought in my life so far
Very well done! I bought the 4070 g14 about a month ago, and have been really happy with it.
@@klledbetter great to hear!
I would recommend that anyone looking to buy one go to a store and get some hands on time. I was convinced I'd want one (Zeph G16) from all the reviews, however, I found the build quality, the touch and feel of the device very 'consumer grade', if I can put it that way. Coming from a Dell Precision 7740 and a Surface 5 Pro, I found it very cheap feeling compared to those, let alone a Macbook. Not saying its a technically bad device, but it doesn't feel as premium as it looks in the review videos. Maybe that's not important to you at that price point, but for some it is, so do yourself a favour and go have a look in person 🙂
What are you getting instead?
@rasundesilva6088 Still haven't made a choice yet. Busy evaluating the Snapdragon laptops for compatibility, the G16 with the AMD CPU is also an option. Tough time to make a choice.
@@JustifyJustinFunny you say that, I was looking at the G14/G16 coming from a surface 7 pro from 2019. The ASUS laptops seem better performance wise and a little cheaper than the new surface with snapdragon would have costed me in the spec I want. Let me know if you do find anything.
@@JustifyJustinI’m thinking of getting a g16 white 2024 the 4070 32gb ram and 2tb every damn Best Buy I go to doesn’t have any on display so I’m just going to have to wing iy
Is it easy to find these Zephyrus laptops in other countries like turkey?
Perfect timing. Want to pull for either(except for the 2024 g14) this week
Honestly just stumbled across this video by accident and having the 2024 G16 myself, I absolutely loved this video. You did your research, you followed up on previous issues that were fixed and you talked about things that most reviewers don't talk about, but matter to the end user. I also really liked how you put other reviewers concerns about GPU TDP, fan noise and temps in persepctive and explained it in a way that was easy to understand. Kepp it up dude, really good job!
@@Pembigevil appreciate your comment, glad you enjoyed the video!! 🙂
I found a G14 2023 (4060, IPS Display, 16GB RAM) on sale for 600$ less than normal price. Are the differences between the 2023 and 2024 models so great I should not take up this deal and wait for a sale on the 2024 models? (I wouldn't use any external displays and / or headphones, so display and speakers might matter)
Thanks in advance for the input!
@@IbpInvestigator2 so the 2023 model was $600 less than the equivalent 2024? I mean that’s too good of a deal. I probably wouldn’t consider the 2024 at that point unless you happened to find one super discounted
I also thought so, as the chances of coming across such a sale, regardless of waiting time, might not be optimal. In the meantime it arrived and I also tested a 2024 version in a showroom, and frankly, I don't think the differences are worth enough for the price increase (considering the deal). Thank you for the opinion and help!
damn, w deal
This is, for me, the new gold standard for laptop reviews. Brilliant video
@@TwskiTV thank you!
I previously bought the G16 Intel ultra 4090 and had it for a week. The FPS in the games I play were greatly held back by the cpu. I returned it and purchased a G14 instead. I was very pleased to have found the exact same FPS on the AMD 4070 G14. For half the price, more portability and in my opinion a better looking laptop.
The G16 speaker grills were too large and I would rather have a num pad on the G16. $2900 vs $1700. Haven’t seen a difference and I love the G14. Just wish it had 240W usb charging and oculink. Hopefully next year will have 240w usb charging and thunderbolt 5, replacing the need for oculink.
Surface Pro 11 and Surface Laptop 7 seem to be absolute home runs, I can't remember the last time I saw so much positivity across the board surround windows laptops.
Damn bro this is probably the best review for any laptop ive seen. Ive been in shambles for a week now deciding what to get for college cuz its so sleek and good looking. you’ve honestly pushed me to get the G14/16, leaning more towards the 14 just because my experience with AMD has been pretty good.
@@singhfrom5ab thank you so much!!
I watched your G16 video and it helped me pull the trigger on an open box 2024 G14 1TB yesterday. However, I'm coming from a MBP from 2012 and have gotten really used to the Macbook feel. I travel a lot and would game occasionally on it since I have a 3080 desktop at home. Do you have any experience running games on the newer MBP via Crossover, Whiskey, etc?
Your reviews are so well done! I can see your channel growing to 100k+ subscribers in no time!
New MBP uses ARM CPUs, very different if you care about gaming.
Macbook displays shows ghost effects though, if you're sensitive to that.
How much it costed for you?
this year I went from a Legion 5i with and I510300H and a 2060, and I bought the G14 (2023) 7940HS with a 4060, and oh my god, it may not be a 4070 or 4080 (honestly don't really need that kind of GPU), but my god this thing performance as a beast plugged in, and quiet, and chill when unplugged.
I love this laptop so much, and when it comes time to upgrade, let's hope 5 years down the line, I know I'm just sticking with this G-line of laptops.
@@angelsantos5245 that’s awesome to hear!
13:01 😂😂😂😂😂the track😂😂
I thought you returned the g16
@@Drivenby filmed all of this a couple months ago! 2023 G14 is still my daily driver
You earned a Like for the Ableton testing. Much appreciated. Can you comment on RAM usage in the test? I'm thinking of going with the G14, but concerned that I would have to pay more for add'l RAM since it's not upgradable. :(
A great comparison!
What about quality control issues? Some reviewers pointed out wobbly touchpad with unsatisfying clicks on G16.
In these thin high-performance laptops, I would also like to see the battery temperature under load, which decreases the longevity of the battery, and the SSD temperature under load, which may cause throttling.
I will consider adding those things in the future! But yes, qc issues seem to be sort of rare, but the most common one is definitely the trackpad on the G16. I have seen quite a few people now with the weird click like what mine had :(
Asus or Legion. There really is no other choice. Both excellent. I've always ended up with a Legion. But the Asus G & Flow series is phenomenal. I'll likely go Asus for my next one. Just for a change. You really can't go wrong with either brand.
What are your thoughts on the upcoming AMD variant of the G16 that’s dropping soon? What use case could you see that being a good choice over the G14 or G16 Intel variant?
If it has better battery life then it may be worthwhile, or significantly improved performance. I personally think it'll be maybe 10-15% more powerful than the Intel Core Ultra and I'm not sure how it's going to do with battery life. It might even be worse with it having more cores now, but we'll see! It's supposed to release around July 15th.
very nice review, more in depth than other reviews I've seen on this laptop.
Excellent video man, so informative and in depth. Keep it up
best review of these laptoops by far!
still undecided between the last year's 4090 g14 or the 2024 4070 g14 - any thoughts on which would ideally be the most value?
@@tamxo2451 most future proof would definitely be the 4090 G14, but go for the new G14 if you don’t care about fps as much and just want luxury thinness, speakers, and metal body. I’m still daily driving the 4090 G14 personally though, it’s just so powerful and I’d miss having all that.
What was the defect of the trackpad of the G16? Also can you add to the comparison the AMD version of the G16?
@@svetimir0ignatov you can hear it in the trackpad comparison clip. It was just oddly clicky with a slight raddle
Hi Josh, I really love your reviews. Is it possible for you to compare the G14s (23 and 24) against a macbook air/pro? I know macbook's battery is unmatched but I'm really interested in knowing how close can the G14 get to a macbook experience once it's been thoroughly optimized through the G-helper.
p.s absolutely love the gifs you throw in your reviews
maybe take screenshots of cpu temps. the movement in the background is very distracting
I am following you from Iraq, from the capital, Baghdad ..
I am confused between
Zephyrus G14 2024
with Ryzen 9-8945HS,
4060 RTX, 32GB RAM and 1TB SSD for $1533 ..
and between
Zephyrus G16 2024
with Intel Core Ultra 9 185H,
4060 RTX, 32GB RAM and 1TB SSD for $2166 ..
What do you think of both deals and which one do you recommend to me ?
Just for the record, I don't play games
I want it for programming, video editing, design, and productivity in general.
i’d go with G14 since it’s significantly cheaper for similar performance.
G14
G14 if between these two
where did you find such a deal for the g14 if i may ask?
It’s so beautiful. The g16. Hope next year they do miniled but not sure if they r on the oled wagon already
Yeah I'm genuinely curious where they'll go with this now. For the first year with this design they knocked it out of the park. Very excited for what 2025 holds!
I have the 2023 G14 with the 4070. I found that enabling dGPU only mode through nvidia control panel gave me way more power (sustained) to the gpu, while lowering cpu a tad. I got 13,000 on time spy for graphics and 11,402 for cpu
What about the Zephyrus duo 16 2023 model ?
@@Parky-pm2sg the Duo is also good, it’s just in a different class of laptop. It’s quite a bit thicker and heavier than these. I think it only comes with a Ryzen HX CPU as well and those have some of the worst battery life of all laptops out there, lol 😂
But performance is out of this world on that thing!
2014 G14 4060 is on sale for 1299 at Best Buy and the g14 4070 is 1750 at Best Buy right now which would be the better buy?
Tough choice! It's about 10-15% more performance between the 4060 and 4070. However, you can get an open box excellent 4060 for just a little over $900 and that is just an insane deal.
@@JoshCravesTech Forsure just no open box ones in my area unfortunately only brand new :/
Would you recommend the g14 for programming?
@@abdullahalmanasseer4360 yeah! It would do great for that
Should I upgrade if I have the 2023 ASUS Zephyrus G14 4060? My first gaming computer
@@jay.jay.1 depends on your budget and situation. Doesn’t really make much sense as far as performance since they’ll be about the same. But if you’re cool with paying a bit more to get upgraded chassis, speakers, display, etc. then sure!
Been waiting for this, I'm about to buy one G14 2024 4060 but worry so much about thermal and OLED burn in. Any suggestion?
@@directorz236 I think as long as you take precautions for basic OLED care then you can probably go through the whole life of the laptop without experiencing burn-in. They use an S-stripe subpixel layout, which is the best for preventing burn-in. Obviously I can’t guarantee it won’t happen, but it’s certainly one of the better panels.
Will camm2 rams ever come to laptops? Wont they be able to solve the thickness issue
@@nehalmathew7510 yes probably in the next year or two
Best review btw keep it up thank you
@@ReviewThisTestThat thank you!’
Is the graininess on the g16 oled display a dealbreaker?
@@leanderterang4181 not at all, it’s super hard to even notice. And only on large gray areas do you ever even barely see it. Nowhere near as bad as the “screen door effect” that you see on some touchscreen OLEDs out there.
@@JoshCravesTech Thank you for clarifying!🙏
For speaker tests, it would be nice to have a control like a Macbook.
@@imnotdavidxnsx true, I only have my wife’s 2020 MacBook Pro 13”, so not the best comparison although I suppose not a bad one either
@@JoshCravesTech just something the audience knows sounds good so they can hear a relative difference despite potential issues like microphone quality.
Can you power the laptop with a type c connector at lower wattage?
did they fix the 3rd fan then? i bought a g14 4070 model and that 3rd fans slightly higher frequency tone made me return it. thats how i ended up with the 4080 g14 2023 model as it was the same price at the time (i now swapped that for a 4090 model muwaha) but yeah that 3rd fan for me would continue to spin for 10 minutes after the other 2 main fans had turned off
Yeah that was fixed! But I don't blame you for getting the G14 4090. It's such a beast. Still loving mine
Hell yeah man another video from you is another great day! I can't wait to see more reviews and videos! Also I know you probably think it's lame but if you could review the Asus Scar Strix 2024 I would appreciate it I really wanna buy it but you're the only reviewer I really trust with my purchases
Thank you!! I've considered the Scar. They aren't my favorite laptop, but if I find one on sale much cheaper or something I might scoop it up.
I like your videos. They are well researched and edited very well. However, the little chuckle/vocal fry that you apply to every other sentence can get to be quite annoying and grating to the senses. Try to work on your delivery and eliminate that vocal strain/chuckle.
@@DrLFV thank you! And interesting critique, will take that into account!
Awesome review as usual Josh! I feel the G16 4090 is better than 2023 g14 in almost everything:
- Thinner laptop
- Bigger screen while weight increase by only 200 grams !!!
- Fan noise and thermals
- Better battery
- Oled screen
- Better chasis and design
- Larger touchpad
the 2023 is better for the RAM and a negligible fraction of FPS, and smaller chassis in XY dimensions naturally.
I feel kinda bad I didn't wait for the 2024 G16.
@@iKaBoZ820 I can totally get that! It’s really hard to say which one I like more. I think if I didn’t already have the G14 I’d probably go for the G16. VERY interested to see what they do next year
@@JoshCravesTech me too I think they set the bar so high, and this is a great thing! The g16 is exactly the perfect laptop that was in my dreams so many years ago.
The g14 is still awesome and since most deep work/gaming I do over an ultrawide monitor, i don’t feel so bad about the screen being a little small.
Is it worth the upgrade?
@@ALEFA-ID from 2023 G14? Probably not unless you’ve got the budget and really want that extra luxury
Will there ever be g18 model?
That would be sick. They used to have a Zephyrus S17 which was one of the coolest laptops around. I'm still upset that they ditched it.
@@JoshCravesTech yea! Tell me about it
That laptop speakers test song had me cracking up
What do you mean? Are they bad?
@@joshuakosloski6873 No! the lyrics were just funny. "did your eardrums get destroyed by these laptop speakers"
Sub’d. Excellent reviews. Underrated channel.
@@Army4Runner appreciate it!! 🙂
Man this video is 🔥 really like the 🔊 test! Following you now.
wait.... quick question? on the 2024 g16 are you not able to disable turbo mode to lower the temps?
@@animenerd8633 so since Intel has a much lower base clock (like 1.5 GHz or something), disabling boost makes it run at a crawl. In some games that don’t rely on CPU that might be fine but in others you might experience some serious hangups. For Intel Core Ultra it’s much better to just limit your CPU to like 12-15W instead if you’re trying to lower temps. And for the HX chips around 25-30W is pretty okay.
@@JoshCravesTech sweet, thanks man!
Как думаете, что лучше? Купить сейчас g16 на RTX 4090 или ждать, пока не выйдет что-нибудь на 5090 в следующем году?
Hey man, great video, I bought a 4060 16gig g14 2024 model and I'm in love with it. I also installed G helper as per your video coz armoury create sucked.
I know this sounds like an absolute headache of a request but would it be possible for you to leave your G helper profile settings in comments? I could not find any guides online (not ones that made sense to me anyway) and I really just want 2 modes. 1) for ultra battery saving where it's just light office work. 2) for plugged in maximum gaming performance.
I'm asking because I've tried to fiddle with the settings more times than I can count and usually land up either not seeing any difference or I brick the damn thing.
Up
visual mode set between 70-50%, disable cpu boost or set it to enabled efficient, limit the cpu wattage to 28w, optimized in gpu options, auto in refresh rate, disable slash and keyboard lighting on battery, that will get you around 10 to 12 hours of battery life depending on how much you push it
Sort of a tough one to answer cause it's hard to give a "one-size-fits-all" profile for those, but I definitely suggest watching my G-Helper video to get a better understanding! However this is my basic suggestion, at least a starting point.
1. Battery saving:
- Silent/Eco mode
- CPU boost disabled
- 60Hz
- Brightness below half, keyboard lights off or low
- Leave CPU power limits checkbox UNCHECKED
- Leave fan checkbox UNCHECKED
on GPU tab, move GPU power slider and dynamic boost slider all the way down. Overclock set to 0 on both.
- Advanced tab - set an undervolt of around -15.
2. Max Performance
- Start with Turbo and make a new profile
- Leave CPU power limits checkbox UNCHECKED (unless you have a desired CPU level to reach)
- Check fans checkbox and set fans to max or a little higher than the stock turbo mode
- GPU tab: set overclock to +150 / +200
- Slide GPU power tab and dynamic boost all the way right
- Advanced tab - set undervolt of -15 again, or -20 and beyond if things don't crash
Don't touch core clock limit or temp limit unless you know what you're doing it for. Most people don't need to touch the CPU sliders either unless again you know what you're doing it for. I see a lot of people mess up a lot by clicking that "apply power limits" checkbox without knowing why they did it. Hope this helps!
@@camilopa372 holy moly 10 to 12 hours? okay so will definitely apply those settings to the battery saver option. Thanks so much!
@@JoshCravesTech hi Josh, this is exactly what I needed , thank you so much man! I always fiddled with the CPU power limits as per your g helper video. Would it be recommended to just leave it then? Are the default power limit settings enough to limit power consumption in battery saver mode / silent mode.
On the undervolting front that was what I wanted to know most so thanks for the advice on that. Will stick to -15 undervolt.
Please keep up the amazing work on your videos, well edited, not too cumbersome on details that make them boring yet thorough enough to keep me informed, and ultimately just fun to watch! :)
I got the 4070 g16 . I really wanted 32gb of ram but wasn’t willing to pay the up charge in the us .
I can 100% understand that
should i wait for the g16 with the new amd cpu and 4070 gpu or just get the g16 with intel cpu and 4080 gpu
4080 all day. I personally don't think the new AMD G16 will be all that impressive. I will be genuinely surprised if it excels in battery or performance, but I think it'll be around the same as the Intel Core Ultra.
josh could you make a video of the optimized settings for the 2023 asus zephyrus m16, 2024 asus g14, and 2023 flow x16
Any idea when will be the g14 rtx 4050 version be available ?
Just get the pro art px 13 its basicly the same smaller and 4050
Fantastic video brother 🙏🏻
I think they didn't give any config options this time because it is last year's GPU. Hoping they have better plans for 2025.
2023 Model of G 14 was actually really good but then again because of Nvidia they didn't get the pricing right in some regions. Now will they choose AMD again for next year? Let's see.
In the US the maxed out version of G 14 (2024) costs $ 2000. In my country a 16GB RTX 4060 G 14 (2024) costs $ 2100. That's just something most people will not spend on.
Wow, yeah that pricing is crazy! And I agree, I think 2025 will be a different story, and I'm very excited for it.
For g14, would u pick ryzen or Intel ultra
@@fustyler the G14 doesn’t have an Intel Core Ultra version, only the G16 has that. But yeah both are excellent and I don’t have a strong preference of one over the other.
When do you think we should expect G16 with 50xx Nvidia's?
@@RomixV I’d guess March 2025 at the earliest
Amazing videos man!
Hey question here - i'm using g16 2024 with 4090 with Ghelper:
Can I use my laptop connected to a 32" monitor whilst it being closed without damaging the screen long term?
@@thomasbitsch5488 most of the exhaust comes out the back of the laptop so it should be fine. Personally I would leave it open just because I’m paranoid though 🤣
Yeah i thought so too lol! Im also paranoid! I Actually bought a really cool laptop stand where its suppose to hold my pc vertical with the lid closed - and on this specefic stand i can open the lid too, making room for that extra bit of suction that the pc needs from the keyboard.
@@JoshCravesTech Thanks a lot for the answer.
@@thomasbitsch5488 Yep, better safe than sorry! Lol
g14 2023 года, подскажите стоит ли брать для поездок по работе, немного игр и программирования
или рассмотреть macbook м1-м2 pro?
I love my 2023 g16, I do wish it had the oled screen that the new ones have. But It stays amazingly cool when without a cooling pad compared what I’ve heard about the 2024 models.
Nice review. Subbed
@@JKgaming1 thank you! 😊
Love your video man, Its great.
I am stuck between G16 and the strix scar 16 2024 model in terms of display, The new scar has over 2000 dimming zones.
Is there a visible image quality difference between an oled and a mini led ?
What do you recommend overall bro, I really need to make a decision.
Thanks.
Yeah that's a tough one! Those are two VERY different laptops in terms of performance and thickness/battery. The mini-LED will of course be brighter and I've heard the 2,000 dimming zones has made blooming even more hard to notice. Some people have told me they don't really see it at all. So for brightness the Scar wins. The OLED will still always have more "perfect" contrast in comparison, but just won't be nearly as bright. And of course the G16 is a much thinner and lighter laptop with good battery life, while the Scar is a thicc powerhouse with lower battery life.
Appreciate it man,
going with G16 on this one.
Again thanks a lot for your genuine reviews.
I got my 2024 G16 4070 open box excellent condition for 1300$. Is the laptop worth it at that price considering its msrp is 2000$?
@@projectroyal1837 that’s an awesome deal!!
should i get a 16’ Zephyrus or Strix on 4080?
I have the 2024 i9 4090 g16 and i keep having the light for the strip light keeps crashing and disappearing from armory crate when i try to use the sonic effect to work with audio anyone have this issue i dont see the sonic option in ghelp
@@ReviewThisTestThat that’s weird! Might be a good idea to start a discussion on the G-Helper GitHub page
Also anyone have a way to get a proper recover iso for this the web site for these is very confusing.
@@JoshCravesTech i did a cloud restore from bio works perfectly now.
@@ReviewThisTestThat Great to hear!!
Hey Josh honest question: with the discount right now on best buy, would you go with the G14 4060 16gb or G14 4070 32gb? Without the consideration of open box discounts which one would you get and why? For context, I mainly would use it for Valorant and normal everyday use. Also, would the G14 be sufficient to use as my PC at home if I were to connect it to my monitor and keyboard?
@@DaewooJeong-h2n I would go for G14 4070 32GB! More RAM, better GPU. Even at 90W, the 4070 will perform a little better. And it will do great as a home PC!
Will you be doing a full review of the 2024 G14 4070? I’m on the fence between that one or the 2023 G14 4080… not sure the OLED will make the difference for the lost gaming performance 🤔
@@jamesalmond4301 this is what I’m considering the review since almost everything is identical to the G16 other than performance and some little details. I’d recommend the 4080 G14 though personally if you want performance that you’ll feel comfortable with for years. The new one is great ONLY if you’re cool with the 4070. That is really the biggest limiting factor. Everything else about it is amazing.
@@JoshCravesTech I think I’ll end up with the 2024 model simply due to it being a more premium product. I can always play games at a lower resolution as you recommend.
I think a dedicated video on the 2024 model would be great for those who just can’t decide between the two - I’ve seen on Reddit that a lot of people aren’t sure which one to get.
One thing that is annoying is that in the UK the G14 doesn’t have the RGB backlit keyboard - annoying…
Thanks for your help! Fantastic video.
@@jamesalmond4301 Nice! Yeah it is next-level as far as premium laptops go. You'll enjoy it!
awesome review man i've been interested in getting the 2024 g14 but do you think it could last me my 4 years in college? I previously bought an Asus Rog G16 in 2020 and it only lasted 2 years when the performance gradually worsened.
@@mofliw6933 absolutely could pull 4 years! Just clean the fans every 6 months or so and don’t load it down with bloatware
It’s not very clear in your review, but assuming same gpu, same ram, same resolution, which gets higher performance 2023 g14 or 2024?
@@Heyebdhahr they perform about the same, you can see it in the performance charts! Very rarely does the 2024 model fall behind unless you play at the native res of 1800p
Things are so skewed here in Canada. We import these from the US so with exchange rates, we should be paying 35-40% more, but we are paying over double the price and i dont know why! The G16 with a 4070 and 32 GB (yes, we get that option) is $2,999. The 4080 is $3,999. And we dont get any RGB keyboard options which really annoys me. I still think i will go with the G16 4070 and pay for it for a long time. :(
@@dalehuhtala9285 that’s awful how much they charge there, it doesn’t seem fair at all!
Amazing video as always thanks again!
Hi
Great review. But I'm sensitive to screen flicker. I've heard the OLED has PWM under 60%.
But uses DC dimming above 60%. I'm unfamiliar with that technology, could you plesase explain, it would be a big help.
Thank you
Oh shoot I keep forgetting to mention DC dimming. Thanks to G-Helper, you can use DC dimming all the way to 0%! It uses software brightness/gamma settings to reduce the brightness of the display instead of relying on PWM. So the only downside is that below 60% you might not get the most "accurate" gamma, but the tradeoff is probably worth it to not experience PWM.
@@JoshCravesTech Thank you. It would be great if in future you metioned it in your great reviews. PWM effects more and more people these days, so it would be a big help.
@@jedi55 yeah I will definitely be mentioning it in the next review when I get the AMD model!
Thanks for the super clear review! I'm going to buy the G16 16" 2024 and it comes in 2 colors as you mentioned (Eclipse Grey OR Platinum White). I was wondering which one is more durable? I mean if I want to sell it in a year or 2, is it going to show hand/finger wear ? (So the question is : What is the natural aluminium material color closer to?) Thanks :)
@@nosyb platinum white would get my vote. Hides fingerprints and wear very easily and looks more like natural aluminum
@@JoshCravesTech Thanks :) That the one I ordered 1 hour ago (only the white is available now in France with the 4090!) Excited to see that
I was strongly considering the Yoga Pro 9i before, but after seeing so many reports and real-life reviews stating its battery life still leaves much to be desired with the same specs, I started to strongly consider something else. I haven't had a gaming laptop since an MSI GS with a 970 back in the day, and am still leery about OLED, but I think this laptop will really fit all of my needs: battery life for schooling, multi-tasking specs for how I use computers, and gaming specs for on-the-go gaming (and as a temporary stand-in if my desktop keels over before I can build a new one.)
I do wish it was able to be optioned up to 64GB of RAM since it's soldered, it's quite odd that they aren't able to offer that when others of the same size can, and hiding 32GB behind an upgraded GPU many may not want is not the play (that's more of a Razer or Apple thing to do.)
It's a very Razer/Apple move to make people upgrade their GPU to get more RAM. And I love that they only did it in some regions like the US. Unless you're cool with waiting for the AMD model to release in a couple weeks. But yeah I'm glad someone understands my sentiment with the Yoga. I was even strongly considering it for myself until I did (way too much) research on what actual users were experiencing and saw the same stuff. Even chatted with a couple owners who ended up returning theirs. It's just really hard to beat the G16 right now. One thing I recommend is sticking to the Asus-provided drivers, at least for the Intel graphics for best battery life. Newer drivers seem to all affect battery in some way.
@JoshCravesTech I'll be honest, the AMD model G16 draws no interest for me. I'm honestly not even happy to be getting the Core Ultra chips with their NPUs, but at least they're not completely all in on AI/Co-Pilot Recall BS yet, unlike the AMD AI 9 HX 370 almost certainly will be. It's the same reason I have absolutely 0 personal interest in buying any of the new SnapDragon Elite X laptops and their Microsoft-sponsored spyware. They could be absolutely perfect laptops in every way for my needs and I still wouldn't.
I was excited for the new Yoga, which did make some much needed improvements in terms of the port selection (last years Slim Pro 9i 16" was a joke, considering the 14" had better ports, which is why they killed it off), but has been a disappointment otherwise. It has a great screen and webcam, but nothing else really on offer. As expensive as the G16 will be here in Canada, if it fits almost all of my checkboxes, it's worth the cost.
@@sjewkes1 Yeah this AI marketing fluff is getting out of hand, lol. I'm also not super interested in the AMD model. I have a hard time believing that it's going to be a huge improvement anyways. More cores/threads is great to see for AMD on laptops, but I don't think it's gonna be a game changer.
@@JoshCravesTechIt is deeply concerning how much of it is making its way into desktop hardware as well, but we'll have to see how long that bid lasts given the average users feelings on or usage of AI.
I'm honestly shocked with how well-rounded the Intel version is, given how badly Intel has been doing in the last 10 years, but their Core Ultra lineup is surprisingly competent thus far for laptops. I'll probably end up snagging an AMD model of something smaller with mini-LED for maximum portability, longevity, and battery life as a travel device, but based on reviews the G16 is shaping up to be what I'd hoped the Yoga was, albeit with an OLED. Its webcam and screen brightness seem to leave something to be desired but these are minor items really.
Been hearing a lot of talk about the 4060 and 4070 G16 configurations having issues with a high-pitched whine from the third fan as opposed to the vapor chamber in higher configurations. Personally, I don't need a 4080/4090 nor do I have the budget. Otherwise the G16 seems like the perfect laptop! Do you think this issue is overhyped, or should those of us who dont have the money for the 4080 look elsewhere for a new laptop?
@@0TheoreticalPhysics0 the issue is overhyped for sure. There is definitely a chance you could have a whiney third fan but it doesn’t seem to affect the majority of laptops. A lot of people have also said that recent bios updates fixed the fan noise a lot. I’m assuming Asus re-tuned these particular G16’s so that the third fan stays the lowest in RPM’s.
Frustrating when you spend 2500 and beyond to get Ram or SSD bottlenecked 😢
@@fractalarbitrage yeah they really need more options to buy
just grabbed the g14 4070, ryzen9, 32gb ram for 1600, thinking it out for the g16 4070, 16gb ram, ryzen 9 just want a bigger screen mainly for gaming. cant go wrong for either. This laptop is so premium loving g16 is 1700. where they dropped the ball is the res. i feel like the g16 should have the 3k res while the g14 should have the 2.5 res. Is what it is. Great laptops none the less, you cant go wrong.
Yeah it's weird that the G14 had the higher res of the two. Just panel choices were slim I guess. Hopefully there are more options in the coming years as OLED gets better
I have the G16, and sheesh no FN lock is crazy! I like the laptop, but that feature's got to get added.
@@miniDrew4 very true, so weird how it’s not there! Luckily G-Helper is a godsend and has it
Absolutely love this video excellent job !!!
Thanks!!
Honestly i’m about to pick up the 4070 g16 it’s on sale for $1600 and it seems like an insane deal
$1600 is a really good deal for what you're getting. No other laptop in that price range that I know of can offer all of these premium features.
I am thinking of buying a laptop but confesed between asus rog zephyrus G16 2024 with ultra 9 and 32 gb with 4070 vs asus rog strix G16 2024 with i9-14th with 4070 and 32 gb ram.
One more think do you also think that rog strix laptop doesn't have a optimised graphics card and thermals.
Two VERY different laptops! The Zephyrus is all about portability, battery life, and being extremely premium (CNC aluminum, super thin and light), while the Strix G16 is more about raw power. The GPU's will perform about the same, but the G16's CPU has much more power to it, so in CPU-bound games like Counterstrike, Valorant, or Fortnite that might prove to be useful. The Strix will run a little bit cooler too because of how thick it is. Personally I'd get the Zephyrus though because the Strix only makes sense with a 4080/4090 GPU to me, where it can really stretch its legs.
@@JoshCravesTech Do you think that Zephyrus is future-proof for upcoming high-end games coming. I want to use this laptop for 4 years
@@hiteshsharma6522 Absolutely!
On G14 2023 it has Dolby Access so you can change the sound type you like
@@Abil1208 correct, they all do! You can definitely make the speakers sound better than stock. And same goes for the new ones too 😅 the 2023 still isn’t bad by any means though! Very happy with mine and still daily driving
@@JoshCravesTech yeah that’s amazing
And also you can play certain games at 165 fps
But the battery ……….
DOES G-HELPER HAVE OLED CARE OPTION lIke armoury crate?
@@616lichking the oled care options in Armoury crate are just Windows settings. And the others like pixel shift/pixel refresh cannot be changed as they are baked in the bios anyway
Thanks Josh 🤘🏻
Given the choice between these or the new px13, it's either the 4090 G14 or the px13.
Bro gamepass is dark on my g14 4070. How can I fix the quality
Ive been looking too buy a 2023 g14 zephyrus with a 4090 but I can't find it anywhere at all. Would you have any pointers for where to find it, or if you are selling yours?
No longer produced, your best bet is to try and find a 4080 g14
@@bigmac22ify that's unfortunate, I can't even find it second hand.
after I commented this I just found aa 4090 on Marketplace and bought it. Will Compare it to my 4080 G16
I think the g14 2024 rtx4070 is gonna be my new laptop, do you think in black friday well be more affordable? Or in usa is there a different web but ebay where can I find that laptop cheaper? G14 2024 or g16 2024 rtx4090 are my options
Yeah the 2024 G14 is a beauty. It will definitely go on sale Black Friday. It's already been on sale on Best Buy multiple times, including right now. You can get an open-box excellent G14 4070 for only $1600.