This RUINED gaming chairs for me...
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- Опубликовано: 12 июн 2024
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So we've used a lot of gaming chairs in the past but recently Steelcase sent over a couple of their ergonomic Gesture chairs for us to try out - after using them for about a month I thought I'd share our thoughts!
Chapters:
00:00 My history of gaming chairs...
00:20 chair options/assembly
01:10 seat pad adjustment
01:35 height adjustment
02:05 recline tension
02:20 tilt lock
02:35 lumbar support
03:02 it's flexible!
03:37 the head rest (neck rest)
04:20 my FAVORITE feature!
05:45 The wheels
06:22 The price - worth it?
07:16 I don't think I can go back to a gaming chair now...
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So I should not go with the Cougar chair? Huh.
It is surprising how much a good chair will help you get through the day.
Being a big and tallish guy, I really have to make sure I can fit into the chair.
There are normally 3 measurements you need.
Back to the knee, Bottom to your shoulder top, and outside thigh to outside thigh.
And if you need your feet to touch the ground because you have short length. You need the knee to floor measurement.
It will help you from tipping over.
I think what I've recently concluded is that the chair is where you need to spend the money. There are places you can cut costs. The chair is not one of them.
"Gaming" chairs are gimmick overpriced cheap garbage anyway. A high quality office chair is the only way to go. I've had my Staples Hyken Mesh for....8 years now, and I've had 0 regrets.
Agreed. My girlfriend (bless her heart) bought me a Homall “Gaming Chair” for this Christmas. Luckily I read the label on the box so she can get her money back.
Only problem is they’re usually cheaper than high quality office chairs so which ones really overpriced
Yeah yeah.... but..
this chair is nearly two grand after taxes..
I never bought a gaming chair because it costs nearly 700sgd for one gaming chair back got 2 pieces can turn to adjust for comfort made in Korea but I bought a office chair half leather SGD 450 + 50 delivery for comfort to sit like 8 to 12 hours.
racing gaming chair, pffft they are just overpriced garbage for sure
I tried out the Gesture at a store a few years ago and loved it *except* the model they had there didn't have the lumbar support so I wasn't sure if I'd end up loving it in the long run compared to other options. I ended up with a Herman Miller Aeron but sometimes I wonder if I would've liked the Gesture more.
$1700 for a chair, that thing better give handy's too.
lmao
lol I think for that price the chair just bends you over and has its way with you. There is no way that thing is worth $1700 and I have a feeling it is much more than that because he said the head rest was "optional". Nowadays optional is code word for you have to pay extra for this basic feature that every other product already includes for free.
@@Steve-tk6xv Except not every chair comes with a head rest and not every person wants a head rest. So, if I can ditch the head rest (or any other feature I don't want) and save some money, that's awesome. Is the chair expensive? Yes. Is it built to last? Yes. I'd say it's worth it. The alternative is to buy a cheap chair that you'll want/need to replace in a few years. Replace the cheap chair enough times and the money you spent on junk chairs will equal or surpass the money you could have spent on a quality chair. Except you'll have a bunch of junk chairs you have to figure out what to do with. I choose the one quality chair. Maybe I'll save my back in the process?
@@gregorymoore2877 The fact that you think they lowered the price because they "removed" a headrest just shows how naive you are. This is the same thing every company does. They charge a standard price for a product then they realize they can remove a feature and then they still charge the SAME price for that product but then they put that feature behind a paywall. This chair is $1700 it can come with the headrest and if you dont want it you can throw it out or store it somewhere. Also, there is nothing about this chair that says it is more quality then any other gaming chair. I have had expensive office chairs, expensive gaming chairs, and cheap chairs of all kinds and they all last about 3-5 years before the wheels start giving out, the cushions become warped, the fabric starts ripping. You have two options either try to replace those parts which will come out to the cost of a new chair or most cases they dont sell individual parts to replace so you end up buying a new one. This chair is clearly made out of the same thing as those chairs it is just designed slightly different. If you do the price calculations I can easily by 10 mid range chairs for the price of this one chair. Even if those 10 mid range chairs lasted 2 years a piece (which they will last much longer) there is no way this one chair is lasting 20 years or more.
@@Steve-tk6xv When I shop the Steelcase website, I can decrease the price by $227 by not getting the headrest. So I'm not sure what you're talking about. Has the Gesture been around for 20 years to know whether it will last that long? The warranty is for 12 years. I'll take the 1 high end chair over 10 mid range chairs. I don't have room in my house to store 10 mid range chairs.
Merry Christmas guys looking forward to what you come up with in the new year
Oh man, I love my Gesture. My only regret is not getting the headrest as well.
Also, in the earlier days, the chair came completely assembled, and you only had to pop in the wheels. Guess they figured a better way to ship it by now.
I noticed it looks like the seat (on the white/grey unit) is tilted slightly down back to front. I am interested to know if that was just a camera angle issue or is the seat actually tipped forward? That to me would be a no go.
Happy holidays to you and the fur babies. 🎄
you too!
Happy Christmas Ya'll! 🎄I would choose these chairs over gaming ones. I can't justify spending that much on a chair; however, my body says otherwise after a day of sitting. These combined with a walking desk set up would be killer. Keep up the awesome videos. 🤙
What color/fabric did you each get? I love the look!
Happy Holidays and these chairs are so nice!
I have a Steelcase Amia. I love it. It's a step down from the Gesture price wise but still a monumental step up from the the knock off, maybe $100 new, fake herman miller i got when someone left it for trash. I got mine for $140 used from an office supply store. Upholstry looks brand new. ended up needing a new piston. $20 from Amazon plus $5 for a pipewrench to remove the old one from Harbor Freight. Total around $170. And my chronic back pain from being t-boned in an intersection decades ago feels a ton better. Worth Every penny. Having chronic back pain i never really considered a gaming chair.
It basically just looks like a more bulky and cloth version of the Leap v2. I have the Leap V2 in leather with the rotating arms like that and the only thing it doesn’t have, because I opted out of it, is the headrest. Because I am actually short and the neck or headrest is pointless for anyone 5ft ish. Definitely my favorite chair by far. Super comfortable especially the lumbar support for someone like me who has injured their back in the past. And the seat pan being able to move back and forth is great too, again because of my height this really helps. Only thing that may be different between this chair and the Leap V2 is possibly the seat cushioning. Maybe it’s got more cushioning or something? Either way I definitely agree, Steelcase has some amazing chairs for long hours of use. I chose this over two different Herman Miller chairs that claimed to be as comfortable as, but are not.
I've used a classic HM Aeron for a decade and just got my Leap V2 today. It's no contest -- The Aeron is ok with an aftermarket seat cushion but Leap V2 is orders of magnitude more comfortable and ergonomic. Got the version without a headrest too. Phenomenal chair! ..
The refurbished models from Crandall have extra thick cushioning as an inexpensive upgrade option, plus brand new upolstery/cylinder/wheels, etc. I'd never be able to tell it's not 100% new tbh. Easily the best $600 I've ever spent for furniture.
Love the black & Grey Colorway. I've been contemplating upgrading my Secret Lab Titan XL for a while now as it's 4 years old. I think this might be the way to go just hope for the price it last me a long while.
Been thinking about the secret lab chairs for awhile because they seem to be the best gaming chair for the price. Do you think they’re worth it? Are you switching out your chair because it’s not been good or because it’s been a long time at this point?
luv the idea of these and want one badly, but just a bit out of the price range I can justify, but thanks for sharing.... gives me some critical thoughts when evaluating chairs going forward.
Check used office supply stores in major cities. With so many working from home there are lots of high end chairs dirt cheap i used office supply warehouses.
I love your guys videos, very cool to see the setup progression!
Thanks! Full gaming setup tour coming soon, I made some changes haha
I've had my Gesture with the headrest now for over 6 years. It's been a great chair. I keep thinking about getting a Leap v2 just to test it out but never pull the trigger. Either way great call on getting yourselves an amazing set of chairs.
After having the Gesture for 6 years, I'm afraid the Leap v2's armrests will be a letdown for you.
i would like to buy steelcase gesture but in my country isnt store with this chair ;(
Great video Merry Xmas to you both.
you too!
Had a SecretLab Titan for 2 years and it was destroying my lower back, got a HM Embody, 2 weeks after no more back pain at all. And it was not lack of exercising or stretching at all, chair ain't magical but all those gaming chairs are everything but ergonomic.
Maybe you dont need to spend a lot (even though I really recommend one of these high end chairs), but go for a true office chair, your back will thank you.
I like the black and grey
I would take that one over a gaming chair
Loved the neck rest idea part. Cost is my barrier right now though maybe later.
This is my dream chair, sadly they don't sell it officially in Brazil, so I just can't find it anywhere here =(
Funny I was looking at the gesture this morning lol
Love the Thermaltake designed by Porsche you had, but it was kinda predictable it's all looks and no comfort in the long run. Bummer.
How comfy it is, can you stitall day on it?
I have an ErgoGenesis BodyBilt office chair that retails for just under $2k, that i got for FREE! I absolutely love it! I work in office and commercial construction, and one of the big buildings in downtown Houston was throwing away about 250 of these things, so i asked them if i could have a couple. I also got my glass back the same way!
I've sat in multiple gaming chairs, and they pale in comparison to my BodyBilt. I will never buy a gaming chair in my life. The only thing cool about the gaming chairs, is they look cool. That's it.
Just got my first Steelcase today, the Leap V2. Phenomenal chair. It's the first time I've ever sat in any Steelcase, and after 12 hours, I can confidently say it's the best chair I've ever experienced.
Was around $600 from Crandall and worth every penny. Everything looks brand new, and most of the chair IS new- including its cushions that are thicker than OEM. The only drawback is the lack of a headrest...but otherwise, it looks nearly identical to Gesture in form, function and comfort.
Got the leap v2 for years now.. it still looks new and dam it is so good. worth every penny. Especially if you dont have a good day. you wont regret a dollar spent on this
You guys finally have decent chairs, this is one thing I always noticed you guys were dropping the ball, now you have real chairs, congrats, just took you long years but you're finally there! you could've been here much sooner, you live in the best country possible and you have access to internet like the rest of us, a simple search on youtube or google you'd find the engame for chairs much sooner. but hey! better late than never!
The ONLY reason these high end office chairs cost this much is because they know you won't be back in 3 years, and if they make unit prices nigh impossible for the average individual buyer then they can offer businesses and startups a nice "discount" or "deal" for batch orders and make themselves more likely to close the deal. It's a scam, always has been. Sure, they're better than a $500 "good" gaming chair but they're not THAT MUCH better in build quality or features to warrant 3X the price. I would GLADLY fork over $7-800 for this chair without even thinking about, Hell, I'd even settle for a 6 year warranty at that price. But there's no way I'm paying $1,600 for a fairly generic looking office chair with a couple of neat features. At least with a Hemin Miller you're gonna get that unique design and look that says, "Yeah I clearly spent over $1,200 of this OBVIOUSLY Hermin Miller chair." Somebody REALLY needs to pull an Elgato and just swoop in and steal the nearly non existent middle ground of office chairs. Make reliable products that aren't trash nor super specific and high end, then innovate in new ways, sell it on mass with razor thin margins and absolutely DOMINATE the middle ground. I honestly thought SOMEBODY would figure this out during the Pandemic but apparently not. Like there's a few options out there like that but there's no single company just going hard offering high end features and quality at relatively middle ground price.
I'd generally disagree. I can't speak to sales strategy, discounts for bulk purchases buy business. That said the build quality is monumentally better than most gaming chairs. Mine appears showroom new and it's a decade old. It's heavy, made of steel, and super durable. These feel made for working adults with an eye to healthy ergonomics where gaming chairs are targeting kids who are going to want to sit with bad posture. Herman Miller's are also generally crap and worse poor ergonomically. They are simply the product of internet hype. People have just fixated on the hype of the name but knowledgable people, back doctors know. That you are focused on the looks, "fairly generic looking office chair"; "Herman Miller has a unique design" tells me you are probably more a style over substance, looks first consumer. And there is a middle ground in office chairs. I have A Steelcase Amia which is like $650-$800 new, there's the Steelcase Leap and many other comparable chairs. Gesture is simply their highest end and thus most expensive. I would agree that they are stupid expensive new. I got my chair used for $140 and just had to put a new $20 piston in it.
Chair that costs 5x more than a gaming chair is better?! Shocking.
It's a nice chair, but for that price I'd definitely prefer go with a Herman Miller, lifelong support and a benchmark in ergonomics and build quality.
Herman Miller provides a 12 years warranty like Steelcase does. Is the coverage different? I liked the Gesture a lot when I was able to try it, but I found the Embody more compelling.
I went Steelcase as well this year. I went with their new mesh chair.
Nice! How you liking it so far?
@@TechTesseract I've decided it's the last office chair I'm ever going to need.
If you guys love the styling of the cougar, and want the ergonomics and comfort of a world class ergo chair, get the Herman miller embody
Those chairs are more expensive then my entire setup ;_;
Love how this new PC look WAAAY better on Josh's setup, Its sad, yea, but the green really doesn't was matchin
Gaming chairs are just for quick money and a repeat sale as they break down.
The gesture chair by Steelcase is the BOMB! Ive had mine for 10-11 years.
My wife and I were so happy we ended up buying 3.
I like the White and Grey. Just looks to good with the set-up.
I would hope a $1500+ chair would be comfortable. Most people can't spend that much for their PC, let alone a chair. That's some pretty high-end $hit there.
As someone who is not really a gamer, I prefer the Steelcase Gesture over any "gaming" chair. But I prefer my Herman Miller x Logitech Gaming Embody over the Gesture. The Gaming Embody is an ergonomic office chair disguised as a gaming chair. It's a Herman Miller chair with some subtle Logitech branding. BTW the Gesture is the GOAT for arm rests.
Any chair with cushions is better than my wooden one with hallow back.
the price of these chairs make me cry, I have my Secretlab and that was expensive for me, but its pretty amazing, things are so exxpensive.
We have 2 of these in our house. Love them…..
Thank you. I'm so sick of seeing garbage chairs. I use Herman Miller Aerons at work, and a Steelcase Leap at home. I VASTLY prefer the Leap. I'm sure Steelcase won't like seeing a comment like this, but they make their chairs so well that they last for over a decade, so DO try to buy used. I got my leap for $250 SIX YEARS AGO. No issues. No gaming chairs can compare. Aerons just force you into one "perfect" position, the Leap (and it seems like most Steelcase stuff) conforms to how you want to sit, and I LOVE it.
I picked up an older gesture for 70 today on offer up and was very surprised when I found out how much they actually go for while looking up how to move the seat forward. Deal of my life
Dang, congrats!
Amazing chair.... I would defo get one finance permitting. But at the moment I can't even put a full tank of fuel in my car 😂
I burned through dozens of office chairs over the years. Including some of the heavy hitters like the Herman Miller Aeron. I picked up the Gesture with the head rest during the early days of the pandemic, anticipating many work from home hours, and it was the best investment I’ve ever made for my office. It’s rock solid and still as comfortable as the day it came out of the box. I cannot recommend it enough; worth the investment if you’re willing to make it.
I think that that is a you problem
Such a shame the color choices are severely lacking in Europe, that model you have looks really great!
Hello how would you say this compares to the Herman Miller Embody? These 2 chairs are so pricey and I hear the Embody is so noisy. I am so tired of spending hundreds of dollars on chairs just for them to fall apart. I’m 46 now with back issues. I want to make a good investment to know that for a change a chair can last over 3 years.
I have tried the Gesture and I found it to be pretty comfortable. The armrests are the best armrests of any chair anywhere ever for all time. I tried the Gaming Embody and liked it a little better. (I'm not a gamer, but the Gaming Embody is slightly less expensive than the regular Embody.) I keep seeing videos where the Embody's noise gets mentioned and, honestly, that's the only time ever think about it. I don't hear mine very much. And if I did, I'm not sure I would care. Try both chairs and buy which ever one feels better. Herman Miller has a generous return policy which gives you 30 days to return the chair. I'm not sure about Steelcase's return policy. They both have a 12 year warranty. Is there a reason you are concerned about the noise?
At first I thought the chair is expensive but it's worth the price with how much features it has
OK, this looks perfect, but I just need to wait for that 90% off New Years Day code...a guy can dream right? :-D
wow $1500 just for the chair with headrest. Insane.
More then a gaming pc is just crazy
@@Nrbeck does a gaming PC come with at least a 12 year warranty?
w vid love y'all merry Christmas
ay you too bro
Bro please start with the price first 1400 for a chair is shoking
Found one at a thrift store for $14
Black and gray.
you guys are deserving more views
Looks good
Having used both Steelcase Leap and Amia, I will never own a "gaming" chair. The comfort and longevity of a very good ergonomic chair will always outweigh the ridiculousness of a gaming chair. Unless that gaming chair is a Logitech Herman Miller Embody or Haworth Fern x Halo chair.
Spending $200 - $300 over a 3 to 4 year period is totally different compared to dropping $900-$1200 + at once for a chair that has alot of other specs compared to something in the $400-$550 range unless which I'm not sure why it isn't mentioned....unless its just a Gen-Z thing not using common sense you are self employed and can write it off as a work expense then it may make sense if you can't find anything else more affordable that does the same thing.
to be honest gaming chairs are not for me because my back sweat very bad on gaming chairs instead got myself office chair with mesh in the back for airflow
I mean sure, but these are like $2000. Any generic gaming chair is going to be worse, but they’re also 1/10th of the price.
2k for a chair is nuts
These seats are "ergonomic". They might seem comfortable but they damage your spinal cord in the long run. Good luck with those herniated discs.
What would you recommend as an alternative?
How does an ergonomic damage your spinal cord?
@@gregorymoore2877 It´s not a straightforward explanation. It´s a few things together. 1. Lazyness of discs. 2. Disc liquid release througout the day. 3. Weight distribution in the wrong places. Discs are lazy, the more you want to be in one position the more they want to stay there. So seating in these so called "ergonomic" chairs, which who decides are ergonomic? Maybe they are comfortable to seat on for a while, but what is that comfort actually doing in the long run? That´s what I mean by "ergonomic". In the long run, the weight you are putting on your lumbar discs using that chair moves the verterbrate to be slightly misaligned. The more you seat on it throughtout the day, the more the liquid inside the discs is released which makes the discs dry and thinner. They are supposed to expand with liquid when we sleep at night, but if you spend a lot of time sitting and standing... they will compress and make it more easy for them to get dry and thin, which is the position they need to be for an injury to occur. So lets say you spend a year using this year, your discs are gonna start to misalign from not distributing the weight properly to your buttocks and legs, then because of sitting and standing throughout the day they will compress and dry, then one night you will lean forward and try to reach something on the floor and your disc will pop. "Ergonomic" is a concept of comfort and supposed health, yet humans are meant to be using their muscles when sitting to keep the back straight and to put tension on the legs and so on so those muscles do not atrophy. Combine muscle atrophy, dry and compressed discs, and compound it with sitting on these chairs for too long... it´s a recipe for an injury.
Can I have your Cougar gaming chair hahaha
Tech Tesseract i have one qustion please🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
"Gaming Chairs" are the stupidest marketing shet since RGB.
I have a human scale ergo freedom from Covid times and I love it.
WEecome to the world of ergonomic chairs. You will never go back
Bro this chair is 2k? No way😂
$1300 for a plastic office chair sounds a little bit crazy, specially when an Asus Rog Destrier costs under $900, but that 12 year warranty it's a great plus.
i love chairs which are more expensive than my whole setup
Trust that if you ever develop severe back pain the chair will all of a sudden become the most important thing in your setup.
@derred723 mate that chair cost double my whole set up I ain't buying
@@cupper_Tea The chair is the LAST thing you should be cheap about.
@gregorymoore2877 I get that but that's a stupid amount to spend on a chair
@@cupper_Tea I would say that depends on your circumstances.
im to broke tobe picky about my gaming chair.
im just buy the best budget deal with decent quality in used market XD
Not Enough RGB!!!
1700????????????😮
Yeah i just wish it was not an arm and a leg.
Yep, gaming chairs are trash. Always has been, always will be.
That applies to the Razers and the Secret Labs. They're there for the gamer-y aesthetics, nothing more.
I'll take one of these any day. Or a Herman Miller Aeron, or a Humanscale Freedom w/ headrest.
I have 2 HM Aerons for my home office, and a Dvary GTChair for my gaming setup.
It's a Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo from me
It's a $2000 *chair*
My fucking car cost less than that.
guh guh guh gaming chairs have always been shyt
cheap gaming chairs are so lame have no thought in them
most "gaming chairs" are junk. theyre not made to be ergonomic in any way, theyre made to "look cool" and make the company money.
1400 + for a chair lmao, im sitting 8hrs+ a day on an 250 chair and dont have problems even though im obese why dahell would anyone pay 1400
i have mnine since 3 yrs constant using
1700 usd is a joke....... just buy a chair from ikea same shit 10th the price
overpriced, pretty sure the manufacturing cost of these in china is @100$ maximum
Actually Steelcase manufactures some chairs in the USA and others in Mexico. I'm pretty sure the cost is more than $100.
@@gregorymoore2877 yeah $130
Saw the price.
Disliked the video.
Unsubscribed from the channel.
Just kidding.
Overpriced gaming trash