Very nice video. Like how it has a little personality to it. Thanks! Two things: Want to make sure I understand the situation 100%, and a suggestion for the video. My impression is that the installed kit does not replace the existing unit, but enhances it. If I am correct, both the original unit and the add-on box ride with the car when the repair is done. In more detail, I'm aware, like many Crown Vic owners, that the LCM is a weak point. The headlights quit working at unexpected times, the turn signals quit or work weirdly, etc. There is a whole cottage industry that consists of soldering in new relays, as many as four, into the LCM units. You can buy the relays, four, for about $20, or buy the LCM rebuild service for about $50 to $100. All over eBay. The kit in this video appears to be sturdy relays that bypass those in the LCM. That's a guess. A question is why only certain years were recalled, as nearly every Crown Vic / Mercury Panther Platform car from 1995 to 2005 has this issue, in my experience. The suggestion for the video is to give an overview at the beginning of what is going to be done. Also, the steps to remove the existing LCM and its bracket were not mentioned. There is another video that covers this. The one with the hip-hop music in the background is good on this point.
I have a 05 CV and it is, by far, the best car I have ever owned. Blows the Honda Civics and Accords away as far as reliability and cheap to maintain. Great GREAT car!
Had to look it up since I've been having light issues ever since a dealer "fixed" it under recall about 2 years ago. So simple I wish I would have just asked for the part, because the dealer didn't follow the colors. Thanks for the informational video.
You must be a master mechanic. A job like that one should be paid like a surgeon. I hope the guy doing my replacement today on my mercury is as good as you. Thanks for the video.
So appreciate you saying even a raggedy ass car deserves a quality repair. Refreshing to hear you and few other guys like @South Main Auto Repair saying that. Had too many bad experiences with "two block repair" shops and dealers over the years. Good job .
i know its a 5yr old comment, but IMO the AK of cars is the Willy's gen 3 Jeep. the old ones, went anywhere, did anything (within reason), ran no matter what as long as it was maintained. although the AK of pickups is 110% the Toyota Hilux (Technical), you can literally drop a building on that mofo and she gonna keep on keepin on.
your cloth tape looks like gaffers tape, or line tape commonly used in theater as a foot placement marker, and in many factories as a general use repair item. quality stuff, tears a bit easier than plastic tape, but holds on real strong, and resists being abraided way better.
Thanks for posting. Very nice work. I always enjoying watching folks do things the old way - the right way. I was just searching and found this video. Not really related to my problem, but still interesting. My Mom's 2010 Grand Marquis has an issue of the LCM draining the battery, at least I think it's the LCM because when I pull the fuse that powers the LCM, the amp reading on my test meter goes way down.
I am completely capable, have the right tools, etc. ----That being said, I would gladly pay a professional like yourself to do the repair! Too bad it is so hard to find professionals these days.
I'm chasing a dome light flicker that's draining the battery and I think I've hunted it to the LCM and I'll look up information about that recall. I am also trying to find the dark mode toggle since my car is supposed to have one but after I find that, the lighting module. Really appreciate this video, I'm super jealous of your lift lol. I'm down here on the ground with my phone on the seat and it was almost like you were rubbing it in haha. Cheers
We have been experiencing intermittent lighting faults for years on our 2004 MGM ls! Once in a while the lights would not function correctly, once headlights shut off while driving, never failed completely, and usually work like they should 99% of the time. We got a letter about a recall, took the car to Capitol Ford, for warranty lcm service 14N01. They were suppose to replace the lcm, but it didn't look like they replaced anything. Several years later, the tail lights failed to come on, and after a quick restart, switch off/on - the lights worked again! Then we got another letter from Ford telling us that the lcm may have not been replaced when we took the car in for 14N01 ext. warranty service the first time. Really? Wtf?! Well, that explains why the tail lights were fking up all of a sudden! My girl phoned Ford dealer service center and got an appointment, I assumed this time it was for safety recall 15S39, which is the job in the video. Drove 2 cars to the dealer this morning so we can drop off the Merc at the service center. At the counter, the service rep told us there are NO parts available to do the job at this time. Told us to wait until they have the parts in stock, then again we will be notified by mail, and had no clue to how long this may take to become a reality! What a bunch of incompetent bums! They could've told her this s#it over the phone, instead of just, "Oh yea, bring it in!" Why bother schedule an appointment when you don't even have the parts available to do this job? That's so retarded! Took it to the dealer twice for this bs and they fixed absolutely nothing! Useless! What a waste of time and pointless corespondence! Dear Ford mo co! Thanks for letting us know that it's all your fault! Anyway, thank you for this video! Obviously our lcm problem remains as of now. The options are: to wait for Ford dealer to pull their heads out of their a$s, or locate, buy, and install the lcm bypass kit as you did in this video, or just pull the lcm and replace the relays on the pcb, use quality relays. It seems to me the last option is the easiest to take on and it promises the best reliability. Def beats dumping 100s of dollars on a new lcm. When you want something fixed right, you got to fix it yourself! Watch RUclips videos if you don't know how! Excuse the long rant and thanks again!
True. My daughter spun our 2005 into a wall at 55 MPH. Double airbag deployment, then got T-Boned by a pickup. Walked away. If it was an SUV, we would have been rolling down the highway, earth-sky, earth-sky style. I like a low-slung car.
I just did two of these recalls back to back. The first one took me almost forever to get done. The second one took me significantly less time, but my neck still hurts from doing them. So, long story short, we're just splicing in a gizmo in series to the LCM, 11 wires to be exact (and one ground dead ended). Way to go Ford, for another Band Aid recall.
you did a great job but this was a Ford hack because the new LCM's were too expensive... Ford used to just replace the module....now they come up with this....I had it done to my Marauder but if i knew they would be cutting wires I would have bought a new LCM on my own!!!!!
My '03 Grand Marquis has 254,000 miles, and just started having this lighting problem. Waiting for the part to get to the dealer for the service. Other than this problem she still runs like a champ and passes cars like they're standing still in the interstate.
I didn't even look, I imagine it was a bunch though. This car was actually in decent shape even though I was making fun of it. Man, some of these things are really run down and abused.
I wish this made sense I had this done in my car it lasted 3 weeks then my lights went out again and then dealership says the control modules bad again so what's the point in having this done
my low beams where not working... i toke my car to a ford dealer for the recall 2004 Crown Vic ,, the dealer had my car all day and did nothing perform the recall,,,,, because they say there where not getting a signal coming from the high beam swatch,,it is in the malty swatch in the steering column,,,,, and wanted to charge me to replace the malty swatch.....so i toke the care home,,,, 2 weeks later i get a letter from ford saying if the recall not performed,,,,,, they Ford are not responsible for any death or injuries as of result of driving with out low beams There more to the story (they had my car at 9:15am-3pm) i call the dealer at noon after they had my car 3 hours and all they did was cry how Ford only gives them 1.5 houers to pay them for the recall ,, it was so post to be free for me . this a reminder post to my self to get back on the phone with ford to say what the fuck and call the transportation department who responsible for making and enforcing the recalls in Canada
Quick question I have a 03 Ford crown Victoria police interceptor and its currently at the Ford dealer for the recall LCM and they seem to be having trouble fixing it and they've had my cat for over two weeks now and I keep getting excuses that they can't seem to get it working I don't know if they are just being lazy or don't wanna fix my LCM because I'm not paying them. What could be the problem? They told me they got the module of the piece inside broken and are waiting to get a supposedly call from Ford company on what to do. This is so frustrating.
Brad - Were those splice connectors seamless? I prefer using the ones with the seams. There's a right way and a wrong way to set the connector in the die. Most people do it the wrong way. These are my pictures linked below. Click the refresh button after the pictures load to get them to full size. As you can see, I put the seam "down in the ditch" like you're supposed to: 1. i115.photobucket.com/albums/n284/MACDRIVE/TOOLS/DSCN3784.jpg 2. i115.photobucket.com/albums/n284/MACDRIVE/TOOLS/DSCN3731.jpg 3. i115.photobucket.com/albums/n284/MACDRIVE/TOOLS/DSCN3737.jpg
I need this done to my '03 Grand Marquis. Two dealers have told me I need to leave the car two days or more to have this done...why? Called Ford they said its an hour and a half job. No they didn't offer a loaner car even though this is their design error.
They want you to leave it because they do not prioritize a recall. If you were paying out of pocket for a repair, they would actually try to get it done quickly.
@@rossharrell1766 took care of it myself. Got a rebuilt module (relay replaced) and swapped them then rebuilt mine. Had to stare at it a few minutes to figure how to get it out with minimal disassembly. But a half hour later all fixed and no lame dealer got any Ford money
@@rossharrell1766 yeah, all works normally. But what I have is an original module but repaired by replacing the bad internal relay. The Ford later repair requires splicing wires in the harness. But even though all is color coded I suspect the average tech at the dealer can make errors in the wiring. Also you can check oreilly auto parts for an add on module to fix it. Not sure how well that goes
Yeah I just bought my first 04 CVPI today and the lights worked just fine at the test drive and I got it home and it refused to work so time to drop a bit of cash on that now 😑
Hey Brad - can you see my other comment? It contains links to Photobucket and I think that may be why it's not showing up. I can see it when I log in, but when I log out, it doesn't show up.
It came in my spam folder for approval and I could not load the images when I clicked on them, I was hoping to get it sorted out before making it public.
Interesting. The links are three pictures of me crimping a non-insulated butt splice connector. Do you have an email address? I think you'd like to see those pictures.
I'm willing to bet you that old raggedy peice of crap car will still be on the road long after the majority of nearly all of these cars they're making nowadays.
I'm the second owner of a 2005 Ford Crown Victoria Sport LX and has 48,000 miles...The car is in GREAT CONDITION....Just after a stereo install....The headlights would SHUT OFF AUTOMATICALLY at night and would NOT come back on ...at first i thought it was the stereo being a new ANDROID DIGITAL STEREO and that there was an APP that was turning my headlights off but i found the recall and apparently it was just coincidence that it finally malfunctioned shortly there after ........
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Very nice video. Like how it has a little personality to it. Thanks!
Two things: Want to make sure I understand the situation 100%, and a suggestion for the video.
My impression is that the installed kit does not replace the existing unit, but enhances it. If I am correct, both the original unit and the add-on box ride with the car when the repair is done.
In more detail, I'm aware, like many Crown Vic owners, that the LCM is a weak point. The headlights quit working at unexpected times, the turn signals quit or work weirdly, etc. There is a whole cottage industry that consists of soldering in new relays, as many as four, into the LCM units. You can buy the relays, four, for about $20, or buy the LCM rebuild service for about $50 to $100. All over eBay.
The kit in this video appears to be sturdy relays that bypass those in the LCM. That's a guess.
A question is why only certain years were recalled, as nearly every Crown Vic / Mercury Panther Platform car from 1995 to 2005 has this issue, in my experience.
The suggestion for the video is to give an overview at the beginning of what is going to be done. Also, the steps to remove the existing LCM and its bracket were not mentioned. There is another video that covers this. The one with the hip-hop music in the background is good on this point.
I have a 05 CV and it is, by far, the best car I have ever owned. Blows the Honda Civics and Accords away as far as reliability and cheap to maintain. Great GREAT car!
Had to look it up since I've been having light issues ever since a dealer "fixed" it under recall about 2 years ago. So simple I wish I would have just asked for the part, because the dealer didn't follow the colors. Thanks for the informational video.
You must be a master mechanic. A job like that one should be paid like a surgeon. I hope the guy doing my replacement today on my mercury is as good as you. Thanks for the video.
So appreciate you saying even a raggedy ass car deserves a quality repair. Refreshing to hear you and few other guys like @South Main Auto Repair saying that. Had too many bad experiences with "two block repair" shops and dealers over the years. Good job .
I’m just trying to learn... what’s a “ 2 Block Repair “ ? 😊
Ahhhh the Crown Vic... the AK47 of cars lol
Well done good sir, you mingled cars into firearms. It was about damned time.
@@devinpetersen2387 Tanks mate
i know its a 5yr old comment, but IMO the AK of cars is the Willy's gen 3 Jeep.
the old ones, went anywhere, did anything (within reason), ran no matter what as long as it was maintained.
although the AK of pickups is 110% the Toyota Hilux (Technical), you can literally drop a building on that mofo and she gonna keep on keepin on.
your cloth tape looks like gaffers tape, or line tape commonly used in theater as a foot placement marker, and in many factories as a general use repair item.
quality stuff, tears a bit easier than plastic tape, but holds on real strong, and resists being abraided way better.
Thanks for posting. Very nice work. I always enjoying watching folks do things the old way - the right way. I was just searching and found this video. Not really related to my problem, but still interesting. My Mom's 2010 Grand Marquis has an issue of the LCM draining the battery, at least I think it's the LCM because when I pull the fuse that powers the LCM, the amp reading on my test meter goes way down.
Man you are so lucky to have that lift! I'm a big guy and doing this recall laying upside down sucks,the scuff plate is a real back killer!
I am completely capable, have the right tools, etc. ----That being said, I would gladly pay a professional like yourself to do the repair! Too bad it is so hard to find professionals these days.
I'm chasing a dome light flicker that's draining the battery and I think I've hunted it to the LCM and I'll look up information about that recall. I am also trying to find the dark mode toggle since my car is supposed to have one but after I find that, the lighting module.
Really appreciate this video, I'm super jealous of your lift lol. I'm down here on the ground with my phone on the seat and it was almost like you were rubbing it in haha.
Cheers
If it’s a recall, doesn’t the Ford dealer do it at no cost?
We have been experiencing intermittent lighting faults for years on our 2004 MGM ls! Once in a while the lights would not function correctly, once headlights shut off while driving, never failed completely, and usually work like they should 99% of the time. We got a letter about a recall, took the car to Capitol Ford, for warranty lcm service 14N01. They were suppose to replace the lcm, but it didn't look like they replaced anything. Several years later, the tail lights failed to come on, and after a quick restart, switch off/on - the lights worked again! Then we got another letter from Ford telling us that the lcm may have not been replaced when we took the car in for 14N01 ext. warranty service the first time. Really? Wtf?! Well, that explains why the tail lights were fking up all of a sudden! My girl phoned Ford dealer service center and got an appointment, I assumed this time it was for safety recall 15S39, which is the job in the video. Drove 2 cars to the dealer this morning so we can drop off the Merc at the service center. At the counter, the service rep told us there are NO parts available to do the job at this time. Told us to wait until they have the parts in stock, then again we will be notified by mail, and had no clue to how long this may take to become a reality! What a bunch of incompetent bums! They could've told her this s#it over the phone, instead of just, "Oh yea, bring it in!" Why bother schedule an appointment when you don't even have the parts available to do this job? That's so retarded! Took it to the dealer twice for this bs and they fixed absolutely nothing! Useless! What a waste of time and pointless corespondence! Dear Ford mo co! Thanks for letting us know that it's all your fault!
Anyway, thank you for this video! Obviously our lcm problem remains as of now. The options are: to wait for Ford dealer to pull their heads out of their a$s, or locate, buy, and install the lcm bypass kit as you did in this video, or just pull the lcm and replace the relays on the pcb, use quality relays. It seems to me the last option is the easiest to take on and it promises the best reliability. Def beats dumping 100s of dollars on a new lcm. When you want something fixed right, you got to fix it yourself! Watch RUclips videos if you don't know how! Excuse the long rant and thanks again!
I don't usually comment, but i do always click on the like button, for I like your vids. Thanks for putting them up.
I appreciate it.
Old and crappy but good old tough cars! Nice quality work....quite a bit more so than some other mechanics I've dealt with!
True. My daughter spun our 2005 into a wall at 55 MPH. Double airbag deployment, then got T-Boned by a pickup. Walked away. If it was an SUV, we would have been rolling down the highway, earth-sky, earth-sky style. I like a low-slung car.
I just did two of these recalls back to back. The first one took me almost forever to get done. The second one took me significantly less time, but my neck still hurts from doing them. So, long story short, we're just splicing in a gizmo in series to the LCM, 11 wires to be exact (and one ground dead ended). Way to go Ford, for another Band Aid recall.
Michael Chan i'm getting mines fix next week at the dealer but after reading your comment i'm like ah damn it so it will happen again😑
Where can you get that relay kit? And do they make one for a 99 Lincoln Continental?
you did a great job but this was a Ford hack because the new LCM's were too expensive... Ford used to just replace the module....now they come up with this....I had it done to my Marauder but if i knew they would be cutting wires I would have bought a new LCM on my own!!!!!
Tesa tape. Tesa 50126 works well for interior spaces. And yeah one does not tear Tesa tape. LOL
My '03 Grand Marquis has 254,000 miles, and just started having this lighting problem. Waiting for the part to get to the dealer for the service. Other than this problem she still runs like a champ and passes cars like they're standing still in the interstate.
Recall Date 2015/12/21
Notification Type Safety Mfr
System Electrical MERCURY GRAND MARQUIS 2003 2004 2005 you can get it done for free
Change your rear diff oil and you will be good for another 245k 😊
@@uhfnutbar1 Odd that only 03 04 05 get it, as many other years have this issue.
@@peternmi386 what about an 01 vic have they recalled it also...??
looks damn near like my crown vic now with the exceptions of the rims on it.
thats quite the kit for a recall. How many miles are on that ex cop car crown vic? Is that the most reliable vehicle on the road or what?
I didn't even look, I imagine it was a bunch though. This car was actually in decent shape even though I was making fun of it. Man, some of these things are really run down and abused.
They break just as nicely as anything else. Especially the last few years (2009 - 2011).
I wish this made sense I had this done in my car it lasted 3 weeks then my lights went out again and then dealership says the control modules bad again so what's the point in having this done
I love my 09 police vic...its basic af and I love it
Grandpa had the same issue his was fixed by the recall. The same could not be said about his venture van headlight problem
my low beams where not working... i toke my car to a ford dealer for the recall 2004 Crown Vic ,, the dealer had my car all day and did nothing perform the recall,,,,, because they say there where not getting a signal coming from the high beam swatch,,it is in the malty swatch in the steering column,,,,, and wanted to charge me to replace the malty swatch.....so i toke the care home,,,, 2 weeks later i get a letter from ford saying if the recall not performed,,,,,, they Ford are not responsible for any death or injuries as of result of driving with out low beams There more to the story (they had my car at 9:15am-3pm) i call the dealer at noon after they had my car 3 hours and all they did was cry how Ford only gives them 1.5 houers to pay them for the recall ,, it was so post to be free for me . this a reminder post to my self to get back on the phone with ford to say what the fuck and call the transportation department who responsible for making and enforcing the recalls in Canada
Is this recall only for the crown Vic or does it apply to the Town car as well, I have a 09.
Would this affect rapid flashing blinkers? That's whats going on in mine and all of the bulbs are good.
just having your ac on high will cause that
Quick question I have a 03 Ford crown Victoria police interceptor and its currently at the Ford dealer for the recall LCM and they seem to be having trouble fixing it and they've had my cat for over two weeks now and I keep getting excuses that they can't seem to get it working I don't know if they are just being lazy or don't wanna fix my LCM because I'm not paying them. What could be the problem? They told me they got the module of the piece inside broken and are waiting to get a supposedly call from Ford company on what to do. This is so frustrating.
Something is awry, it takes every bit of 10 minutes to replace the module.
Shane Marcotte module would be great if they werent so overpriced and cant even find them around here
I have one the only problem i have is that my head light stay turn on when the switch is off and i dont know why
Brad - Were those splice connectors seamless? I prefer using the ones with the seams. There's a right way and a wrong way to set the connector in the die. Most people do it the wrong way. These are my pictures linked below. Click the refresh button after the pictures load to get them to full size. As you can see, I put the seam "down in the ditch" like you're supposed to:
1. i115.photobucket.com/albums/n284/MACDRIVE/TOOLS/DSCN3784.jpg
2. i115.photobucket.com/albums/n284/MACDRIVE/TOOLS/DSCN3731.jpg
3. i115.photobucket.com/albums/n284/MACDRIVE/TOOLS/DSCN3737.jpg
Thanks!
I need this done to my '03 Grand Marquis. Two dealers have told me I need to leave the car two days or more to have this done...why? Called Ford they said its an hour and a half job. No they didn't offer a loaner car even though this is their design error.
They want you to leave it because they do not prioritize a recall. If you were paying out of pocket for a repair, they would actually try to get it done quickly.
@@rossharrell1766 took care of it myself. Got a rebuilt module (relay replaced) and swapped them then rebuilt mine. Had to stare at it a few minutes to figure how to get it out with minimal disassembly. But a half hour later all fixed and no lame dealer got any Ford money
@@wb2dyb The dealer did mine and now my lights are always on.
do you still have automatic lights or did you lose them after fixing the issue?
@@rossharrell1766 yeah, all works normally. But what I have is an original module but repaired by replacing the bad internal relay. The Ford later repair requires splicing wires in the harness. But even though all is color coded I suspect the average tech at the dealer can make errors in the wiring. Also you can check oreilly auto parts for an add on module to fix it. Not sure how well that goes
@@wb2dyb Yeah. I am sure I will have to fix the wiring. *sigh*
Nice neat job,Brad.
My adapter has a grey wire and a black wire, are these on the second harness?
What year crown vic have the lighting control module recall...?? Or what year do they start recalling them...??? Ty in advance...
2014 they started the recall
Where did you get that kit from? Where can I buy this at?
This is a recall, they are available at any Ford dealership.
@@flmmaz oh okay because mines a 1999 model
sooo since the cylinder on that lift is right in the middle, if you push on the 1/4 pannel hard enough will it spin?
If you disengage the lock cylinder then you can spin that puppy around all day (until it unscrews itself).
Can someone please tell me where is the fuse for the windshield wipers in the 2005 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor
Have an 05 cvp71 that needs that him recall fix too
Yeah I just bought my first 04 CVPI today and the lights worked just fine at the test drive and I got it home and it refused to work so time to drop a bit of cash on that now 😑
I put in the kit to my 03 and it’s still no head lights or tail lights and I have to hold my high beams and they work.Can anyone help me out??
my type of vehicle even though i just totalled my 05 police interceptor
trigga ville word homie, i love me a full size rwd car. they call the impala and taurus of today full size but it just isent the same
yea me too, i've had 2 crown vics and 1 lincoln town car, i will be getting another crown vic real soon
@@infinity3jif trigga, you are the MAN!!!
:D
My wipers are coming on by themselves and won't go off!!!
You’re a good Samaritan flmmaz
wow a dealers nightmare,,,, Ford only gives them 1.5 hours to do this job
how long did it take you ?
I haven't done one since this one, I can't remember now.
What year?
Do that control the rear break lights
low beam headlights only
The top wiring harness is a nightmare.
Is it just me or those are Mustang wheels? lol
Where is the head light relay on a crown Victoria?
Inside the LCM, as built. They are the weak point that this kit addresses.
Hey Brad - can you see my other comment? It contains links to Photobucket and I think that may be why it's not showing up. I can see it when I log in, but when I log out, it doesn't show up.
It came in my spam folder for approval and I could not load the images when I clicked on them, I was hoping to get it sorted out before making it public.
Interesting. The links are three pictures of me crimping a non-insulated butt splice connector. Do you have an email address? I think you'd like to see those pictures.
Sent you a private message.
Ok Cool. I got those pictures sent off to you.
I can appreciate that the vic isn't pretty but demeaning someone's car is ignorant .
It’s all in good humor, I know the owner.
part # on the crimpers?
Rotunda 164-R5901
@@flmmaz dash lights r dim and the adjuster wont brighten them could the switch be wore out...??
Can't see how to pull plugs
Part number on. Lcm kit???
Pause video at 1:43
I looked it up but it doesn't say what years this product is for. Do you know if it would work on a 2002?
Where that my your check engine light come on
What the fuck did you just attempt to write?
@@shanemarcotte2062 "Would that make my check engine light come on?"
I'm willing to bet you that old raggedy peice of crap car will still be on the road long after the majority of nearly all of these cars they're making nowadays.
Oh you know it! They still have yet to make a police car that can out perform these running flat out for 8 hours at a time.
@@flmmaz it's the 4.6L Ford's best engine ever. I have a grand marquis with 266744 on the clock and run just like new
@@clackonwallstreet I have 277k and some miles still running like a beast...
I'm the second owner of a 2005 Ford Crown Victoria Sport LX and has 48,000 miles...The car is in GREAT CONDITION....Just after a stereo install....The headlights would SHUT OFF AUTOMATICALLY at night and would NOT come back on ...at first i thought it was the stereo being a new ANDROID DIGITAL STEREO and that there was an APP that was turning my headlights off but i found the recall and apparently it was just coincidence that it finally malfunctioned shortly there after ........