@@VOTE_FOR_YOUNGSEO well she wasn't supposed to debut with them if she didn't, they literally got her out of the lineup to debut kazuha and eunchae.. and yes it's a concept thing imo. i think she would suit a girl next door type group so well
@@nicolasrossano3754 bro idk any of after school members but when I saw her i literally commented she’s ready to debut in after school She has their visual & talent
My top 6 for now is Youngseo, Ruka, Iroha, Minju, Jiwoo, Chanelle! They’re so talented and amazing performers :D But Jeemin, Jeongeun and Moa are really cool as well!
My main vote is Hyewon, like I love this girl, she so talent and sweet (from her intro video). But I’m also supporting Ruka; I remember her working hard to debut in lesserafim but not getting picked still..
@@malaz4523 its that's in survival show program people choose their bias based on looks especially korean only see visual not takent. Not gonna she is not even that good visual compared to these idols which i mention its just lessarafim fans who is hyping her If she was never shown in ĺesserafim documentary i don't think she never gonna have that hype which is having now.. Its called supporting not popular one
@@malaz4523 i think were yunjin you should know about this Yunjin is a very talented girl but she eliminated in produce48 and didn't get change to debut in izone Just because she is not Korean favorite I not saying haruka is not TALENTED But she receiving that hype because of ĺesserafim stan
@@avaca3353But thats not going to stop us from being her fans she is talented and korean definitely doesnt have full control over hybe decision. People does have prejudice but we dont care talent and skills will always guide people who is gonna debut. You literally support wonhee because of her visual not talent she ranks in the bottom for the interim ranking for the performance
@@aqrobin9810 its not me who is hyping her its korean She is less trained compared to Others but korean were loving her I said those name based on popular among korean Among Korean i didn't see any hype for haruka its just lsf stan who is supporting her
MOA'S PERSONALITY AND HASEUL'S VISUAL HER AURA IS ETHEREAL I LOVE JUNGEUN TOO AT THIS POINT I'D LOVE TO SEE A DEBUT GROUP WITH HASEUL AS THE MAKNAE!:) I FEEL SHES ONE OF THE MOST MATURE AMONG THE MAKNAE LINE ALONG WITH JUNGEUN
Also 4 of the contestant share the same name from other k-pop idols: Park Minju: Kim Minju (ex Iz*one) Son Jiwoo: Jiwoo (NMIXX) Shin Hyewon: Kang Hyewon (ex Iz*one) Ruka (short for Haruka) : Ruka Kawai (Baby Mons7er)
Minju and Iroha are my picks atm. It's disappointing to see lack of vocalists again. I hope the contestants will show their vocal skills in the coming episodes.
1. Minju (all rounded, lead vocals) 2. Moka (Rap, all rounded) 3. Ji woo (Leader and main Vocal) 4. Jihyun (main dancer, very stable vocals) 5. Young seo (visuals, lead dance) The last one could be Yunah or Chanelle, It's honestly hard to decide, they both can contribute a lot, in fact I'm hoping they add to 7 girls and not only 6. Yunah is very complete, it is obvious that she has a lot of stage experience. Chanelle is so rounded, even if she can be a bit shy, she can sing and rap, it would be sad to waste her talent ☹️
My top 6 1. Youngseo 2. Jiwoo 3. Chanelle 4. Yunah 5. Jeemin 6. Minju So here are my commentaries and analyses as a viewer and a K-pop fan (PS. These are just my opinions, I am not a professional nor an expert at talents, I do not underestimate their talents and I do not invalidate your opinions). (For the 1st place) Youngseo's definitely ready to debut, she has good stable vocals although not that really impressive, she is pretty good at dancing too based on her performances so far, her stage presence is top tier, and she has the charisma that's why she has good stage presence and she is perfect for the center position, although I'm scared that she might be at the bottom later on because in the recent episodes, I can see that she keeps struggling but I think she will just improve more. I also thought about Jiwoo winning second place because she is pretty talented, she has the best vocal amongst all of them (at least the most decent), her dancing is also good, and her stage presence is also not that bad, she is just ready she has it all to become an idol that's why I picked her as a candidate for the second place, I do think she deserves to be at the first place but sometimes when she performs she can be easily overshadowed by the other members, but she will definitely debut. Chanelle perfectly fits the top 3: she can dance, sing, rap, and has the best stage presence, she has the character of a talented artist. Chanelle is an all-rounder because she is talented, she would also be a good choice for the center position if ever she debuts, she has the presence and her expressions are on point. I put her as my top 3 because I think she is still lacking at some point but I do hope that she debuts because she just has it all. I can also see that Yunah will be a strong candidate for the top 4 if it weren't just for the votes, I do believe that she has good talents, and for me, she's one of the strongest alongside Youngseo, Jiwoo, Chanelle, Jeemin, and Minju. Her talent for dancing is amazing; she gives main dancer material that's why her stage presence is awesome, and I agree with that. Although her vocal is not that strong, she can still do moderate high notes (well I mean she is a really good singer). For the top 5, I picked Jeemin because she is the package of an idol, in the recent episodes Jeemin just keeps shining, she never disappoints, and her energetic stage presence is also top-tier. I can see that Jeemin is best for dancing, her sharp moves and her energy is on fire, but in terms of vocal, she is kinda weak. She does not have a stable vocal but her singing tone is unique and amazing, she has this rusk and nasal voice that is not fitting for being a dancer because it is hard to sing in nasal while dancing, but Jeemin is amazing, she can fully sing in nasal and she has a good breathing technique. Now finally, Minju is in the top 7 because she not only has the face she also has the talent. Visually, we can say that Minju, Yunah, and Chanelle have the best visuals and their talents are just amazing. Minju has a strongly stable voice, she has a sharp small vocal tone and her singing technique is slaying. Her dancing is also great and she does dance gently but sharp and strong. Her stage presence is mid but her facial expressions are AMAZING she can literally just make a bland expression and it feels like she's going fierce and strong. She has the best potential of becoming an idol and she might also be good in the center position. I just hope these girls debut because they all had the potential and they are talented.
This is mine (My Big 3😊) 1. JIWOO (please vote for her, her vocal is insane) 2. YUNAH (her aura😍) 3. JEEMIN (she's an ace🔥) 4. YOUNGSEO (her performance in tomboy is so good) 5. RUKA ( she needs to debut!!!) 6. I'm still not sure
Im torn cause a lot of them look promising and there's only 6 spots for debut lol but as of ep 3, these are my top 6: 1. Youngseo 2. Yunah 3. Chanelle 4. Jeongeun 5. Jiwoo 6. Hyewon
Hopefully when ep 2 gets released Yuisa will be on the top 10 popularity cause her fancam on the unreleased performance was just awe dropping her dance and stage presence is the best in any other contestant on this show and comparable to Youngseo
![Six Hundred Strike [EPIC: The Musical] Full Animatic](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/zov6NXIAuow/mqdefault.jpg)
First your editing is everything ❤
*My top 7*
1. Jiwoo
2. Yunah
3. Jeemin
4. Youngseo
5. Minju
6. Iroha
7. Moka
There are vocal queens, charismatic girls, and centers of the group 🫶🏼😍
@@kaosooll There will only be 6 tho
Ruke let's debute this time!😁🦋
lol overrated asf
Where she was before? You maen ruka?
@@Soyeonbooshe was on the le sserafim's debut lineup but was removed 😢😢
@@Soyeonboo she was supposed to debut with lesserafim but she got removed from the line up because she didn’t fit their concept
@@VOTE_FOR_YOUNGSEO well she wasn't supposed to debut with them if she didn't, they literally got her out of the lineup to debut kazuha and eunchae.. and yes it's a concept thing imo. i think she would suit a girl next door type group so well
Jiwoo,Chanelle(Vocals)
Iroha(Dance)
Yunah,Jeemin,Minju(all-rounder)❤
My pick❤
My top 7
Jiwoo,
Yunah,
Jeemin,
Youngseo,
Minju,
Iroha,
Moka.
@@kaosoollBut they said that only 6 are debuting, why is everyone picking 7?
Chanelle is the all rounder since she can be main vocal/rapper and lead dancer
@@chaennifer_kpopI also don't get it
Youngseo deserves to be known more she's so talented💗
Fr shes my 1 pic
My top 7
Jiwoo,
Yunah,
Jeemin,
Youngseo,
Minju,
Iroha,
Moka.
@@kaosooll We have the exact same ranking!
I was looking for funa is she in or no?
My girl ruka let's debut at this time!!
.....so umm
about that.. she’s gone, and btw because of chanelle’s elimination, ru next lost like 100k followers lol
@@anyujinnieHELPPPPP LOL😂
Yunah has the 2nd most viewed fancam 🥱
I think because their performance isnt aired yet so many are curious.
@@NoraRunesI don’t know why but her visuals caught my attention; I just wanted to see her fancam
@@NoraRunes nah, she’s getting popular. once the next ep aired, she’s going to be really popular
fr, she's remind me of Afterschool Kahi, she's giving me Leader vibes
@@nicolasrossano3754 bro idk any of after school members but when I saw her i literally commented she’s ready to debut in after school
She has their visual & talent
Vote for Ruka and Chanelle !!!!!
My top 7
1. Jiwoo
2. Yunah
3. Jeemin
4. Youngseo
5. Minju
6. Iroha
7. Moka
There are vocal queens, charismatic girls, and centers of the group 🫶🏼
I got something to tell you…😭
@@cherry_hoon don't tell her 😭
@@Yuri-il4xm yea maybe but do u like the final lineup?
@@cherry_hoon meh not bad but not good like jiwoo and jeemin aren't in the lineup ?! ☠️ but i like a little cuz my n1 pick is in it it's yunah
Minju, Jiwoo and Chanelle my vocal queens💗
My top 7
1. Jiwoo
2. Yunah
3. Jeemin
4. Youngseo
5. Minju
6. Iroha
7. Moka
There are vocal queens, charismatic girls, and centers of the group 🫶🏼😍
@@kaosoollchanelle
My top 6 for now is
1. Jiwoo
2. Chanelle
3. Youngseo
4. Jeemin
5. Iroha
6. Joungeun
My top 6 for now is Youngseo, Ruka, Iroha, Minju, Jiwoo, Chanelle! They’re so talented and amazing performers :D But Jeemin, Jeongeun and Moa are really cool as well!
My main vote is Hyewon, like I love this girl, she so talent and sweet (from her intro video). But I’m also supporting Ruka; I remember her working hard to debut in lesserafim but not getting picked still..
Shes my main pick too
❤
I hope Chanelle and Minju debut
Hyewon
Funa
Ruka
Moka
Iroha
My top 7
Jiwoo,
Yunah,
Jeemin,
Youngseo,
Minju,
Iroha,
Moka.
Hyewon is beautiful and a good dancer. We must support her talent
Agreed!!
Yunah, youngseo , wonhee and jiwoo definitely going to debut👍
I think Haruka also because so many lessarafim stan supporting her..
Not only that, ruka is very talented and her singing is perfect she deserves to debut
@@malaz4523 its that's in survival show program people choose their bias based on looks especially korean only see visual not takent.
Not gonna she is not even that good visual compared to these idols which i mention its just lessarafim fans who is hyping her
If she was never shown in ĺesserafim documentary i don't think she never gonna have that hype which is having now..
Its called supporting not popular one
@@malaz4523 i think were yunjin you should know about this
Yunjin is a very talented girl but she eliminated in produce48 and didn't get change to debut in izone
Just because she is not Korean favorite
I not saying haruka is not TALENTED
But she receiving that hype because of ĺesserafim stan
@@avaca3353But thats not going to stop us from being her fans she is talented and korean definitely doesnt have full control over hybe decision. People does have prejudice but we dont care talent and skills will always guide people who is gonna debut. You literally support wonhee because of her visual not talent she ranks in the bottom for the interim ranking for the performance
@@aqrobin9810 its not me who is hyping her its korean
She is less trained compared to Others but korean were loving her
I said those name based on popular among korean
Among Korean i didn't see any hype for haruka its just lsf stan who is supporting her
moka, iroha, and jihyun are my favorites. honestly ill just be happy if moka debuts, her stage presence is amazing
MOA'S PERSONALITY
AND HASEUL'S VISUAL HER AURA IS ETHEREAL
I LOVE JUNGEUN TOO
AT THIS POINT I'D LOVE TO SEE A DEBUT GROUP WITH HASEUL AS THE MAKNAE!:)
I FEEL SHES ONE OF THE MOST MATURE AMONG THE MAKNAE LINE ALONG WITH JUNGEUN
hasuel was eliminated:(
Hyewon caught my eye. Very charming! Love Chanelle's vocal tone. Iroha has swag. Jiwoo is mature and sexy. Looking forward to the next episode.
My faves are Ruka, Wonhee, Yunah, Iris, and Haseul; let's debut girls
My top 7
Jiwoo,
Yunah,
Jeemin,
Youngseo,
Minju,
Iroha,
Moka.
@@kaosoollSAME
No girl shut up do you even watch the show☠️ why are you even voting for iris
wonhee queen of no real talent
@@nieniiss You're the queen of hatred, go cry in the corner
I wish we could collectively vote for Ruka😭💗!! I REALLY HOPE SHE DEBUTS THIS TIME💗💗💗💗
my top 6:
1:youngseo
2:jiwoo
3:hyewon
4:chanelle
5:jihyun
6:ruka
Yunah giving me Leader vibes, she's s gorgeous
My Picks
1. Ruka
2. Jiwoo
3. Minju
4. Moka
5. Yunah
6. Chanel
MY TOP4
1.Hyewon
2.Ruka
3.Jiwoo
4.Chanelle
My Fav Picks >0<
Yunah
Moa
Chanelle
Youngseo
Iroha
Jongeun
Jiwoo
Hyewon
Also 4 of the contestant share the same name from other k-pop idols:
Park Minju:
Kim Minju (ex Iz*one)
Son Jiwoo:
Jiwoo (NMIXX)
Shin Hyewon:
Kang Hyewon (ex Iz*one)
Ruka (short for Haruka) :
Ruka Kawai (Baby Mons7er)
My top 6
1. Chanelle
2. Iroha
3. Yungseo
4. Jiwoo
5. Jihyun
6. Wonhee
My group
Wonhee
Seoyeon
Moa
Iroha
Youngseo
Moka
Ruka deserves to debut ❤❤
My top 6;
-Jiwoo
-Funa
-Chanelle
-Hyewon
-Youngseo
-Wonhee
*My top 7*
Jiwoo,
Yunah,
Jeemin,
Youngseo,
Minju,
Iroha,
Moka.
It is better not to make a group of 6 people…
@juldizay23 Yes I want it to be 7 too
@@kaosoollthey better call JYP for him to increase the members
As a MOA im gonna support moa...
Minju and Iroha are my picks atm. It's disappointing to see lack of vocalists again. I hope the contestants will show their vocal skills in the coming episodes.
Jiwoo, Chanelle and Minju are good vocalists tho
You literally underestimating Jiwoo and Chanelle
@@merliah23 but I bet jiwoo won't debut considering how hybe only wants young visuals
@@praveenw.4393jiwoo visual common what u r saying
@praveenw.4393 did hybe say that?
Vote for Minju #letsdebut #ParkMinju
My Top 6
Jiwoo
Moa
Chanelle
Minju
Ruka
Youngseo
YESSSSS
Moa, minju, hyewon 🤍
Moa summoned a whole fandom
Im chanelle biased she is so pretty like what- and those haevenly vocals omgod-💓😭🤧
Yunah,chanelle,ruka,jiwoo,
Wonhee,youngseo should debut ASAP
chanelle and youngseo are so talented! please vote for them!💌
MY TOP 6
iroha
chanelle
youngseo
yunah
moka
minju
For me the top 3 most popular are Chanelle, Wonhee, Jiwoo
my ideal lineup !!
Jiwoo, Chanelle, Moa, Yunah/Iris, Minju, Youngseo
My Top 6
1. Yunah
2. Youngseo
3. Minju
4. Iroha
5. Jeemin
6. Jiwoo
Same top5
Let’s root for Minju
yay miss top on top>>>
Same but Chanelle instead of Iroha
I voted for
Chanelle
Iris
Ruka
Jiwoo
Jihyun
Seoyeon
Iris.....
As someone who is active on weverse quite often I do not see these being the most popular
jiwoo and iroha NEED TO DEBUT
so far my picks are
1. hyewon
2. youngseo
3. yunah
4. jiwoo
5. moka
6. chanelle
!
Chanelle and jihyun just got eliminated I’m done
1. Minju (all rounded, lead vocals)
2. Moka (Rap, all rounded)
3. Ji woo (Leader and main Vocal)
4. Jihyun (main dancer, very stable vocals)
5. Young seo (visuals, lead dance)
The last one could be Yunah or Chanelle, It's honestly hard to decide, they both can contribute a lot, in fact I'm hoping they add to 7 girls and not only 6. Yunah is very complete, it is obvious that she has a lot of stage experience. Chanelle is so rounded, even if she can be a bit shy, she can sing and rap, it would be sad to waste her talent ☹️
My top 6 :
Chanelle
Moa
Ruka
Wohnee
Jiwoo
Himena
finally someone praises wonhee!! i need her to debut so bad
Same! But I feel many of her fans are only focusing on her visuals rather than anything else
@@lizziiessyesss.....
Omd our top three are the same!
@@nctae 🤭💖
It's a shame for Hybe that none of the Vocal avengers trainees debut. They were the jewels bro
Jeemin deserves more recognition
FOR REAL
AGREED!
Yeahh
minju all rounder she can sing can rap ,
my favs for now are:
- Jiwoo
- Chanelle
- Youngseo
- Yunah
- Moka
- Ruka
😍💗
Youngseo let's debut!!! ❤️
*My top 7*
1. Jiwoo
2. Yunah
3. Jeemin
4. Youngseo
5. Minju
6. Iroha
7. Moka
There are vocal queens, charismatic girls, and centers of the group 🫶🏼😍
IM ROOTING FOR YOU HARUKA!! U BETTER DEBUT SO I CAN CALL U MY BIAS! ❤❤
Youngseo
Hyewon
Iroha
Jiwoo
Yunah
Minju
My top 6 so far
1. Yunah
2. Minju
3. Jiwoo
4. Youngseo
5. Jihyun
6. Ruka
It is good to have 7 people in a group... Not 6 anymore 😕
My Top 5 : Chanelle, Hyewon, Minju, Moa, Iris. let's debut ❤
VOTE FOR HYEWON
My top 6:
Iroha
Yunah
Youngseo
Minju
Jiwoo
Chanelle / Jeemin
ive never seen this show in my life but Holy Yunah is gorgeous. shes gonna debut, gives me leader vibes too
My top 6:
Ruka
Chanelle
Minju
Jiwoo
Woonhe
Hyewon
MINJUUU
Im gonna go FERAL if chanelle doesnt debut.
Ruka And Chanelle needs to debut fr!
WONHEEEEE
MY TOP PICK IS HYEWON!
Off topic but, ena has amazing vocals for a 12 year old, she just needs to improve more and maybe she can debut in another time
I'm in love with Jihyun.
I want she debut so bad! 😫💖
My top 6
1. Youngseo
2. Jiwoo
3. Chanelle
4. Yunah
5. Jeemin
6. Minju
So here are my commentaries and analyses as a viewer and a K-pop fan (PS. These are just my opinions, I am not a professional nor an expert at talents, I do not underestimate their talents and I do not invalidate your opinions). (For the 1st place) Youngseo's definitely ready to debut, she has good stable vocals although not that really impressive, she is pretty good at dancing too based on her performances so far, her stage presence is top tier, and she has the charisma that's why she has good stage presence and she is perfect for the center position, although I'm scared that she might be at the bottom later on because in the recent episodes, I can see that she keeps struggling but I think she will just improve more. I also thought about Jiwoo winning second place because she is pretty talented, she has the best vocal amongst all of them (at least the most decent), her dancing is also good, and her stage presence is also not that bad, she is just ready she has it all to become an idol that's why I picked her as a candidate for the second place, I do think she deserves to be at the first place but sometimes when she performs she can be easily overshadowed by the other members, but she will definitely debut. Chanelle perfectly fits the top 3: she can dance, sing, rap, and has the best stage presence, she has the character of a talented artist. Chanelle is an all-rounder because she is talented, she would also be a good choice for the center position if ever she debuts, she has the presence and her expressions are on point. I put her as my top 3 because I think she is still lacking at some point but I do hope that she debuts because she just has it all. I can also see that Yunah will be a strong candidate for the top 4 if it weren't just for the votes, I do believe that she has good talents, and for me, she's one of the strongest alongside Youngseo, Jiwoo, Chanelle, Jeemin, and Minju. Her talent for dancing is amazing; she gives main dancer material that's why her stage presence is awesome, and I agree with that. Although her vocal is not that strong, she can still do moderate high notes (well I mean she is a really good singer). For the top 5, I picked Jeemin because she is the package of an idol, in the recent episodes Jeemin just keeps shining, she never disappoints, and her energetic stage presence is also top-tier. I can see that Jeemin is best for dancing, her sharp moves and her energy is on fire, but in terms of vocal, she is kinda weak. She does not have a stable vocal but her singing tone is unique and amazing, she has this rusk and nasal voice that is not fitting for being a dancer because it is hard to sing in nasal while dancing, but Jeemin is amazing, she can fully sing in nasal and she has a good breathing technique. Now finally, Minju is in the top 7 because she not only has the face she also has the talent. Visually, we can say that Minju, Yunah, and Chanelle have the best visuals and their talents are just amazing. Minju has a strongly stable voice, she has a sharp small vocal tone and her singing technique is slaying. Her dancing is also great and she does dance gently but sharp and strong. Her stage presence is mid but her facial expressions are AMAZING she can literally just make a bland expression and it feels like she's going fierce and strong. She has the best potential of becoming an idol and she might also be good in the center position. I just hope these girls debut because they all had the potential and they are talented.
Top 4 best member on runext
. Jiwoo
.Jeemin
.Ruka
.Moa
Jeongeun is my fave
Yunah is so pretty
Who I think should debut (in my opinion) ->
Youngseo
Moa
Moka
Chanelle
Minju
Iroha
This is mine
(My Big 3😊)
1. JIWOO (please vote for her, her vocal is insane)
2. YUNAH (her aura😍)
3. JEEMIN (she's an ace🔥)
4. YOUNGSEO (her performance in tomboy is so good)
5. RUKA ( she needs to debut!!!)
6. I'm still not sure
My top picks are
Jiwoo
Yunah
Youngseo
Jeemin
Minju
Iroha / Chanelle
Top 6
Jiwoo
Iroha
Iris
Ruka
Yunah
Wonhee
Additional picks
Minju
Chanelle
Jeemin
Jihyun
My top 6
1_youngseo
2_wonhee
3_jihyun
4_yunah
5_minju
6_moka
My top 5
Jihyun : she give me momo's vibe
Yunah : she give me kahi and seulgi's vibe
Ena
Minju
Chanelle
i’m so happy my bias is so high!! (jiwoo)
My top 6✨
1. Moa
2. Youngseo
3. Moka
4. Iris
5. Yunah
5. Chanelle
My top 3:
Yewon
Wonhee
Ena
Im torn cause a lot of them look promising and there's only 6 spots for debut lol but as of ep 3, these are my top 6:
1. Youngseo
2. Yunah
3. Chanelle
4. Jeongeun
5. Jiwoo
6. Hyewon
All top 9 are my picks omg 😭💗💗
I love Hyewon
my top picks are jihyun, himena, moka, hyewon, minju, jiwoo and yeongseo
You said most of my favs!
Lets make them debut!! :)
@@funnyCATo_o958 yess!! i really hope jihyun makes the final lineup, she’s my top pick!
Moka
Jiwoo
Hyewon
Ruka
All of them are litrerly in my top 6 along with Wonhee and Jihyun
I hope they debut!!
My top 7
1. RUKA
2. SEOYEON
3. WONHEE
4. YOUNGSEO
5. JEEMIN
6. YUNAH
7. JIHYUN
wonhee
Sad How jiwoo was on everyones top 6 but didn’t get chosen to debute
If i was to pick the final six**
1. Moa
2.Wonhee
3. Yunah
4. Chanelle
5. Jiwoo
6. Minju
If they'll be 7 them
7. Moka
my top 6 so far:
Jiwoo
Hyewon
Jeemin
Jihyun
Youngseo
Iroha
Top 6:
1: Wonhee
2: Yunah
3: Ruka
4: Jiwoo
5: iris
6: Iroha
OR Jeemin and others
Chanelle is really nice. She is beautiful and talented.
Hopefully when ep 2 gets released Yuisa will be on the top 10 popularity cause her fancam on the unreleased performance was just awe dropping her dance and stage presence is the best in any other contestant on this show and comparable to Youngseo
My 6:
Jiwoo
Jeemin
Ruka
Chanelle
Heywon
Minju
Honorable mention: wonhee
Tysm for adding Wonhee atleast
wonhee ❤
Ruka & Chanelle must debut!!!!