So you got to handle my camera before me... 😉 Leica is just a name, its people like you that make the amazing cameras we enjoy, create images of moments in our lives. THANK YOU
Had my black MP for 4.5 years and it truly becomes yours after the black paint has started to wear away after about 18 months of use. Lives in my rucksack I take to work and try to get one shot a day.
Hey Darryl, Thank you for sharing this. Have you gotten any results on this camera yet? I shoot with DSLR and trying to decide if my next camera should be a mirrorless or 35mm film camera :)
That’s an interesting dilemma, I personally started with mirrorless and have loved it but then i picked up a cheap canon FTb 35mm SLR and I haven’t looked back since. What did you end up going with?
How well built are the new MP compared to the classic M:s, like M3? I've had the M3, M4-2, M5, M6 and M6TTL, and the older they get the better the build. The M6 for example is in my opinion overrated in build (clunky shutter) and viewfinder (bad flare resistance). Does the contemporary Leica stand up to the older MP and the classic M3 (which IMO is the best Leica of them all)? Thx.
The Leica MP is better built than my M6 TTL and the viewfinder is brighter, I was thinking of sending my M6 to get the MP mod to the viewfinder. Plus the MP has brass top and bottom plates
Hi Jimmy, not used the MP yet and not sure how long it will be before I see paint damage, will be up dates on the channel. I do find my M10-P marks really easy
Berlin! New version of ORWO, the real home of Agfa film. Agfa was developed in Wolfen, which later was part of the GDR until 1989. Agfa Leverkusen was a 'spare'. 😉 Congrats to yr new Leica M-P!
Hi, I will always recommend the Kodak TRIX 400. For me, this is the best black and white film right now. Fujifil ACROSS 100 is more expensive, but with a beautiful grain. Leica is a camera for life, and people do not chase so much for novelties as with digital cameras. Beautiful photos. Arek from Poland. Best wishes.
I have to agree with qrt171 on the Berlin. The Lady Grey is Fomapan 400, rebranded. It's such a subjective thing, when it comes to liking a film, but LadyG didn't hit the mark for me. I couldn't seem to dodge and burn the way I wanted to and the outcome wasn't satisfactory. Then again, you might really dig it! I look forward to your thought on this stock. Please let me know what you think.
I can’t decide BP or silver chrome MP.. what do u think of silver chrome ( better long term like new condition ? ) or BP brassing is nicer than Silver chrome ? Please advice ..! Thank u 🙏😁
Would definitely enjoy a camera review on the Leica MP, particularly as to how the in-body metering works, since I believe Leica film cameras are only full stops.
Congratulations! Looking forward to more photos and RUclips videos featuring your MP! Always wanted one for myself for some time. Hope to see you shoot 400TX pushed to 1600 as well!
So sad that this is, indeed the only newly manufactured film camera you can get! I've got an excellent Canon SLR that I bought new in May of 1983! Still gives excellent results! When folks view my "Prints" they are amazed. Always want to know "what printer do you use"???
I bought one MP for my wife there too, it’s really good store, let me know the difference of ma, mp and in different years of production, but I visit the store and get it in my hand, not through any shipment
Hey, I also got the same 2 film holders from Kodak ( the black for my BW and the blue/yellow for my color film ) they where released at the beginning of this year I think. I find them on the heavy side, so I just carry one of them, but I do love them. Nice unboxing video. Do you have any thoughts on rumors of a new "budget" film camera from Leica ?
Hi Cristian, not heard much about the rumoured film camera, budget and Leica are not normally in the same sentence 😉 So I was a little lost when I heard the rumour, they are still making the MP and M-A. lets hope we get some more news on this rumour soon.
I shoot a lot of Rollei Retro 400 with my M6 and find it to have wonderful textures and grain. I'd highly recommend that one. I've also shot with the StreetPan and the Lomography Berlin film stocks which I've enjoyed a lot but I've found that with the StreetPan and the unusual grain structure of it you really have to shoot it with a theme in mind. Enjoy the MP :)
What a timeless elegant piece of mechanical perfection. I should shoot with my Leicas more. Intrigued by this Berlin film roll you have there. But I am really just hoping to see the results from them all at some point.
@@DarrylCarey Tri-X is definitely a superb film to shoot with. It was my go-to Kodak film back when I was processing myself alongside all the Ilford staples (FP4+ HP5+). Just curious about other films I have never heard about before.
Hi Andrew, yes I still have the MP, but still have not used it yet 😭 heading to Taiwan and Japan in a couple of weeks for work and will be taking the MP, will make sure I get some videos done while I’m away 😉
Has to be Tri X. Kodak film is legendary and shares a similar storied history with Leica. Many great photographs of the history of humankind were made on Leica cameras with Tri X.
I use Walkens and they have a good range and their prices are good . I live and Sydney and they send the film up very quick. Probably wouldn't be much longer getting it in NZ.
Hi Brett, sadlly the last shippment from Walkens took about 2 weeks to get to me. NZ Post can be a little sometimes, but worth the wait and just about to order some more film from them
@@DarrylCarey hello darryl, i usually like it best at box speed and exposed for the midtones. i tried pushing a roll of 35 the other day and didn‘t like it as much. waiting for a roll of 120 which i shot at 200. we‘ll see. can‘t really go wrong with box speed...
The Lomography Lady Gray is actually Fomapan 400. I really like this film but the 100 speed Fomapan is also nice and contrasty with a pleasant grain. They also make a 200 which is a tabular grain film.
What (other than personal need and preference) makes the MP “greater” than the M-A? Arguably, for those who don’t need a light meter, the M-A has greater value because less plastic.
@@Edgy01 No, what you then have is an M-A with a cheap plastic ISO wheel in the back and a useless battery compartment in the front that makes the camera look and feel way less perfect than it could. If you don’t mind that, fine; but it is precisely why some choose the M-A over the MP. Which takes us back to my point about personal preference. Talk of “the last great film camera” is misleading here. It not only implies that the MP is “greater” than the M-A, which is questionable, but also that the M-A isn’t even among the great film cameras, which is ridiculous.
Hi Lugen, thanks for the comment and do have a point but for me the MP is the perfect film camera, sadly it does have more plastic than the M-A but the M-A does not come in the black paint finish.It does come down to personal preference, its nice that Leica are still make the MP and M-A.
Well blackbird sounds most interesting to me :)Well blackbird sounds most interesting to me :) and i love the idea of the Kodak metal film holder case. I ordered two myself just now coz one shop here has them in stock tool
I bought an M-A 1 month ago, I wanted an MP and I love black paint, but I am not a fan of how easily the black paint come off of the MP. Seems like Leica has made it to wear off easily to please people who are not heavy users. Unfortunately I had to return two M-A and eventually I got a refund (bad quality control on these new leicas). This MP does look nice though. Congrats on the camera.
Sorry to hear about the 2 x M-A's, I hope my MP is ok 😱. Going to be shooting with the MP for a long time and will feature in my videos from time to time, will be interesting to look back and see how the MP has aged
My vote goes to Berlin as well, but you should get a roll of the Cinestill B&W film, I don’t see enough videos on that. Also, you gotta go full on Jim Marshall an walk around with 2 or more Leica M around your neck or slung on your back when reviewing the M-P.
Finding it hard to get hold of the Cinestill B&W film, will see if BH Photo has any in stock. Never shot with 2 Leica's at the same time, will never to give it ago one day 😉
Shoot a film stock you are very familiar with for your first roll. Personally I'd go with Tri-X. Historically, probably more Tri-X shot thru Leicas than any other stock.
Wonderful, with only one slight annoyance. That is, the meter stays on and drains the battery if you leave the camera cocked, and don't turn the top dial to "off". Would have been easy for Leica to add an auto off.
So many times I have gone to shoot my M6 and the battery is drained because I always leave the camera cocked ready to shoot. Will have to try to not leave the camera cocked or just shoot more film 😉
These Kodak film cases are great but way too impractical to me as I don‘t exactly know where I should put such a big solid box when I‘m out traveling and shooting.
They used to do one where you pulled a tab and the whole thing opened gracefully like a flower. My M6TTL came in an outer cardboard box then an inner plastic display case like you might expect with a watch.
@@Tom_RUclips_stole_my_handle I remember the plastic boxes, made great storage case for the camera when it was not being used. The sad part about the new boxes is they do not hold up well. If you use them for storage they start to fall apart after a while.
@@DarrylCarey I haven't shot it before, I have a few rolls ordered, I mainly shoot HP5 and Tri-X. I just shot and developed a roll of JCH Street Pan, and it didn't turn out as I hoped, really thin negatives, and very grainy. Probably my fault since I pushed it to 800 and used an orange filter during the day. Really enjoying your content, just picked up a Nikon LS-5000 to scan my negatives and it's been a god send for my workflow. Cheers!
I vote Berlin. I love that Leica still make these beautiful film cameras, although the cost is insane. I own an M5, but o can’t say it’s better than any of my other cameras. Enjoy!
Hi Jon, I have never used an M5. I hear they are really well made and shoot like an M6, the prices are starting to go up on Ebay. Still looking at getting one in the near future, do you have any issues with yours?
@@DarrylCarey Hi Darryl. I got a very nice copy on eBay from a seller in Japan. The M5 is probably the most “reasonably” priced M series, but it looks like the prices are going up on that too now. I like that it’s different from the others and enjoy shooting with it. I particularly like the shutter speed dial that hangs over the front edge of the body, making it easy to change without having to take my eye from the eyepiece. No regrets. I do have a number of other cameras (don’t we all!), all of which work very well. That’s one thing I love about film cameras - they all have the same “megapixels” and same core technology, which is about exposing film to light. It’s so easy to get caught up in gear acquisition, thinking that new camera/lens/whatever will make all the difference in the images we capture. My grandfather was an avid golfer and used to say about equipment, “It’s the fool, not the tool.” I think that applies to cameras as well.
That beauty will last your lifetime. My M3 is 50 years old and still working. Having only 3 CLAs in its life… And i am voting for Adox the last german 35mm film manufacturer as i know…
@@DarrylCarey Yes M6 is great too. What i love at my M3 is the Viewfinder with its enlargement of 0.91. Good for longer lenses. 0.72 is better for wider lenses. If it would not be so expensive i would own two Ms… ;)
Looking forward to seeing you use it over the next few years I would use a film you know well as the first roll that ways you understand the results better tri-x dream camera for most analog photographers
Hi Fred, just shot some JCH a couple days ago and shot at 200 so overexposed by a stop. Video should be up in a couple days, just a quick fun video shooting with the M6 and a Carl Zeiss 35mm lens
It must be a "Berlin". You can't put a Japanese or US film into your Leica for your first shots. That would be a sacrilege. Following this logic a Rollei film would also be fine. And congratulations to your purchase. I am sure it will stay with you for decades to come - that is the beauty of analog photography.
The M3 is an awesome iconic camera, but they are old. The MP is modern camera and because of that they will cost more. I guess it comes done to you budget. Personally I would go with the MP 😉
I came back to this video after buying a new Leica MA and a Leica MP. The leica MA oozes sheer build quality and class and the MP black paint looks plasticky. Framelines of the MA are uninterrupted by meter and is a joy to use. Seems clearer and brighter than the MP. There is dearth of good content on leica cameras and lenses on RUclips. For a while I thought you’d stepped up to it with content and images. Seems not. We do what we love anyway. This review you did was a landmark MP review though.
Hi Baladino, hope you are enjoying your new cameras. I have yet to use a MA, maybe one day😉 As for me and my Leica cameras, I have been crazy busy with work (video) and some projects I have have been shooting for a friend overseas who can not visit NZ. This sadly gives me very little spare time to shoot my Leica cameras, I have not even shot a roll of film on my MP. Now its winter time in NZ, my work slows down which has give me more personal time. Plus I wanted to help the companies of the products I have sent and also use for work. I have a few more videos I need to shoot and edit on some products and then I will get back to my film/digital Leica videos. I really appreciate your honest comment.
@@DarrylCarey Darryl, I hope I didn’t sound harsh. Perhaps some frustration emergent seeing a person who’s most qualified to review leica gear and lenses and take good images to boot doesn’t sound like he’s having fun and has a lot to distraction to deal with. Take care of yourself Darryl. Regards to you and yours.
@Baladino You did not came across as harsh, thank you for being honest. Sadly just not had the spare time to shoot my Leica's, but that us about to change hope everything is good in your part of the world. ..... You have me looking for a Leica MA 😱
Somehow I expected it to be wrapped in tissue paper rather than a plastic bag. The slotted battery holder makes sense, those things have a habit of becoming stuck fast, then you scratch the paint trying to undo it with pliers.
It is strange you get a beautiful box and then the camera is in a plastic bag 😉 Been lucky with my Leica's over the years never had that problem with the battery holder, I did have a friend who purchased an M6 Classic and he had to send it in to get the battery holder removed. I was ready with a mole-grips (locking Pliers) , for some reason he did not trust me😱
I don't care what people say one day I will sell all my gear buy a Leica MP and shoot black and white film for the rest of my life. I would love to see the Berlin or Lady Grey first please and then the rest. Preferably next day 😉
Hi Richard, if you can find one at a good price I would go for an M6 TTL or M6 Classic. Another option is an M4-P which is an Canadian made Leica, which makes them cheaper than the Germany made Leica's. Being Canadian made does not make it any less than the Germeny made Leica. If you can live with the odd looking M5 you can always find them cheap. Hope this helps
I have a M6 TTL so I would rather suggest M6 classic instead. Once a M6 TTL got problem on light metering then it cannot be fixed. If you don't mind to have a bit more plastic inside the camera then M7 or MP is a better option. They are brighter in the viewfinder unlike the M6 or older version. A lot of like new old camera have already collected by us who have owned them for years, those second hand on sale are mostly overpriced with only a okayish condition. So if you do have the money I would suggest to get the MP.
@@Tom_RUclips_stole_my_handle Lucky you, I got mine from ebay years ago, I have put it straight to service. Everything was fine but the meter only worked my first two shots.
@@reddychan9819 Perhaps ask again if the meter matters to you? Maybe it's one of those things where more parts have become available. I remember the repair was listed as 'meter circuit replaced'. It sounds as if it might be one of those parts which fails on a not if but when basis. I bought the camera new in around 1999-2000 and the meter failed three years ago.
@@DarrylCarey Things are moving to the better times here in Sweden! I generally shoot my films stock speed and develop 0.5 ish stop extra in my d76 stock developer for the extra help for the shadows.
What a sexy camera. I will always go for the silver chromes when it comes to the Ms (kind of love the tiny scratches and dings they evolve and you can hardly see them), my Nikon F2s are also painted black and wear beautifully.
I work in Leica Portugal! I work in the MP section and its so greatful to watch that people love this cameras! Leica team 🌟
So you got to handle my camera before me... 😉 Leica is just a name, its people like you that make the amazing cameras we enjoy, create images of moments in our lives. THANK YOU
You guys in Portugal make most of this camera correct ?? Then send it to Germany final assembly 🤷♂️😂😂
Berlin of course, tribute to Leica, germany!
Had my black MP for 4.5 years and it truly becomes yours after the black paint has started to wear away after about 18 months of use. Lives in my rucksack I take to work and try to get one shot a day.
Hi Adam, I have seen a few Black Paint MP's and each one has worn to the owners use. Which lens are you using on your MP?
@@DarrylCarey at the moment it’s a 50mm Summilux 1.4. Just a nice classic combo.
I'm voting for Berlin. German film stock for a German camera. Have fun with your new purchase whichever roll you decide to go with.
Looks like Berlin is going to win 😀
@@DarrylCarey As i know it is made by ORWO. And ORWO is now an American company. The only German film manufacturer i know is ADOX....
After this video I purchased my MP. My first film choice was Portra160 then Ektar100 and just home developed tmax100.
This camera is incredible 😍
Hey Darryl, Thank you for sharing this. Have you gotten any results on this camera yet? I shoot with DSLR and trying to decide if my next camera should be a mirrorless or 35mm film camera :)
That’s an interesting dilemma, I personally started with mirrorless and have loved it but then i picked up a cheap canon FTb 35mm SLR and I haven’t looked back since. What did you end up going with?
How well built are the new MP compared to the classic M:s, like M3? I've had the M3, M4-2, M5, M6 and M6TTL, and the older they get the better the build. The M6 for example is in my opinion overrated in build (clunky shutter) and viewfinder (bad flare resistance). Does the contemporary Leica stand up to the older MP and the classic M3 (which IMO is the best Leica of them all)? Thx.
The Leica MP is better built than my M6 TTL and the viewfinder is brighter, I was thinking of sending my M6 to get the MP mod to the viewfinder. Plus the MP has brass top and bottom plates
do you find the black paint on this mp to be prone to scratch? I found it to be much thinner than my previous black Leica Ms.
Hi Jimmy, not used the MP yet and not sure how long it will be before I see paint damage, will be up dates on the channel. I do find my M10-P marks really easy
Berlin! New version of ORWO, the real home of Agfa film. Agfa was developed in Wolfen, which later was part of the GDR until 1989. Agfa Leverkusen was a 'spare'. 😉
Congrats to yr new Leica M-P!
Thanks 62sMarty
Wow, is it really ORWO? It brings back memories...
Will you ever post a review on it???
Hi, I will always recommend the Kodak TRIX 400. For me, this is the best black and white film right now. Fujifil ACROSS 100 is more expensive, but with a beautiful grain. Leica is a camera for life, and people do not chase so much for novelties as with digital cameras. Beautiful photos. Arek from Poland. Best wishes.
Hi Arek, thanks for the comment. ACROS is starting to get cheaper now, been shooting more and more lately. Get film for a super bright sunny day.
Hello, could you make a comparison between the M6 and the MP with the same roll, same lens ? I'm curious to know what could be the difference.
Sure, was thinking of doing a video comparing the 2 cameras
I have to agree with qrt171 on the Berlin. The Lady Grey is Fomapan 400, rebranded. It's such a subjective thing, when it comes to liking a film, but LadyG didn't hit the mark for me. I couldn't seem to dodge and burn the way I wanted to and the outcome wasn't satisfactory. Then again, you might really dig it! I look forward to your thought on this stock. Please let me know what you think.
Looking forward to seeing what I can get from Lady Grey, never shot Fomapan 400. Will do a video on the Lady Grey Soon.
I too shoot with an M6ttl and an M10P.
Wondering if you get confused with the MP shutter dial direction against the other 2 Leica Ms.
I can’t decide BP or silver chrome MP.. what do u think of silver chrome ( better long term like new condition ? )
or BP brassing is nicer than Silver chrome ?
Please advice ..! Thank u 🙏😁
The most beautiful camera ever made but I'd love a black paint M-A since I don't the light meter. :D
I think they have the M-A with black paint I would have gone for that. How is the relationship going with the Q2 Monochrom
When was the leica MP manufactured?
14/01/2021
Any update on which you prefer between this and the m6?😃
Would definitely enjoy a camera review on the Leica MP, particularly as to how the in-body metering works, since I believe Leica film cameras are only full stops.
full stops are really all you need for B&W film
You should defenetly use Berlin with the awesome German Camera!
Thanks 42
HI Are these Grey Imports , does it come with the Leica Warranty etc ? As the prices are very reasonable .
Hi Dominique, they are not Grey Imports, RangeFinder.com is a approved store. Hope this helps
Are the newer MP's using a sealed viewfinder or still prone to dust?
Any updates on this beauty? Eager to see the results!
Congratulations! Looking forward to more photos and RUclips videos featuring your MP! Always wanted one for myself for some time. Hope to see you shoot 400TX pushed to 1600 as well!
Never pushed Tri-X, will have to try that one say soon
Same. I'd rock the Kodak 400 Tri-X as my first roll too.
So sad that this is, indeed the only newly manufactured film camera you can get!
I've got an excellent Canon SLR that I bought new in May of 1983! Still gives excellent results! When folks view my "Prints" they are amazed. Always want to know "what printer do you use"???
If the Leica MP and M-A are the only 35mm film cameras you can buy - for how long will you still be able to buy film?
Hi R S, sadly Leica only make 35mm film cameras. Film is not going to be a problem as more and more films in 35mm are coming to the market.
The Holy Grail of film Photography. 😃
I should have made that my title 😀
Agreed, been looking for this one for ages. One day I hope to get one.
I say Rollei Retro 400s, the heir to agfa apx 400 film, a glorious film for a glorious camera!
Looking forward to shooting the Rollei 400s
Thanks for the tip. Just bought the same camera from Rangefinder!
Thats awesome news, is this your first Leica film camera?
I bought one MP for my wife there too, it’s really good store, let me know the difference of ma, mp and in different years of production, but I visit the store and get it in my hand, not through any shipment
Hey, I also got the same 2 film holders from Kodak ( the black for my BW and the blue/yellow for my color film ) they where released at the beginning of this year I think. I find them on the heavy side, so I just carry one of them, but I do love them. Nice unboxing video. Do you have any thoughts on rumors of a new "budget" film camera from Leica ?
Hi Cristian, not heard much about the rumoured film camera, budget and Leica are not normally in the same sentence 😉 So I was a little lost when I heard the rumour, they are still making the MP and M-A. lets hope we get some more news on this rumour soon.
PLEASE do a review on this vs the M6 TTL!! As those are the 2 cameras I'm deciding between! Thanks mate!
Hi Eric, I will get a video together over the next couple of weeks with the M6 and MP
@@DarrylCarey that would be great, thank you!
@@DarrylCarey still waiting🤣
I shoot a lot of Rollei Retro 400 with my M6 and find it to have wonderful textures and grain. I'd highly recommend that one. I've also shot with the StreetPan and the Lomography Berlin film stocks which I've enjoyed a lot but I've found that with the StreetPan and the unusual grain structure of it you really have to shoot it with a theme in mind. Enjoy the MP :)
Thanks Sam, I have shot some Retro 80 before and really like the look of the film. Just found your channel and have subscribed 😉
@@DarrylCarey thank you 😊 - I rarely post on there. Would appreciate if you had a look at my Insta @samatkinspics 👍
@sam atkins That's shame you have some nice videos, will watch a few more tomorrow. Will check out your insta 😀
Has the vulcanite leatherette changed?
What a timeless elegant piece of mechanical perfection. I should shoot with my Leicas more. Intrigued by this Berlin film roll you have there. But I am really just hoping to see the results from them all at some point.
Looking forward to shooting with the MP and Berlin, a little surprised so many people vote for Berlin over a classic film like Kodak Tri-X
@@DarrylCarey Tri-X is definitely a superb film to shoot with. It was my go-to Kodak film back when I was processing myself alongside all the Ilford staples (FP4+ HP5+). Just curious about other films I have never heard about before.
@@airtrafficmedia I have a few to try in upcoming videos, if you know of any other films I should try, please let me know.
Did you ever do a review of the MP, Darryl? Do you still have it?
Hi Andrew, yes I still have the MP, but still have not used it yet 😭 heading to Taiwan and Japan in a couple of weeks for work and will be taking the MP, will make sure I get some videos done while I’m away 😉
Has to be Tri X. Kodak film is legendary and shares a similar storied history with Leica. Many great photographs of the history of humankind were made on Leica cameras with Tri X.
Thanks Keith, Tri-X is my number 1 B&W film but it looks like Berlin has won
I use Walkens and they have a good range and their prices are good . I live and Sydney and they send the film up very quick. Probably wouldn't be much longer getting it in NZ.
Hi Brett, sadlly the last shippment from Walkens took about 2 weeks to get to me. NZ Post can be a little sometimes, but worth the wait and just about to order some more film from them
would be nice to see a proper comparison between the nikon coolscan v and this simpler scanning method.Im looking to see the grain.Thanks
got my MP BP almost the same day as you. first film is gonna be a pancro 400 i think. love that film stock.
Hi Magnus, how are things going with the MP? Do you shoot Pancro 400 at box speed?
@@DarrylCarey hello darryl, i usually like it best at box speed and exposed for the midtones. i tried pushing a roll of 35 the other day and didn‘t like it as much. waiting for a roll of 120 which i shot at 200. we‘ll see. can‘t really go wrong with box speed...
Start off with the Pan 400, personally one of my favorite budget films 😎
Looking forward to shooting Pan 400, never shot it before
First roll of film in any new camera should be a tried and true film that you know well - in this case Tri-X or HP5
Thanks Steve, I would be very happy to shoot Tri-x but it looks like Berlin is going to win😱
The Lomography Lady Gray is actually Fomapan 400. I really like this film but the 100 speed Fomapan is also nice and contrasty with a pleasant grain. They also make a 200 which is a tabular grain film.
Thanks for the info, will shoot a roll of Lady Grey at 100.
@@DarrylCarey The 400 speed Foma doesn't handle overexposure very well.
The 100 speed Foma is also being sold as Lomo Earl Grey or Kosmo Foto 100.
Shoot the Tri-X first and the Ilford HP5 Plus second. Those are the only two films I would consider using on a permanent basis in my MP.
Second choice: Ilford FP4 125 ASA.
What (other than personal need and preference) makes the MP “greater” than the M-A? Arguably, for those who don’t need a light meter, the M-A has greater value because less plastic.
The nice feature of the MP over the M-A is that you can leave out the battery and --viola! You have an M-A!
@@Edgy01 No, what you then have is an M-A with a cheap plastic ISO wheel in the back and a useless battery compartment in the front that makes the camera look and feel way less perfect than it could. If you don’t mind that, fine; but it is precisely why some choose the M-A over the MP. Which takes us back to my point about personal preference. Talk of “the last great film camera” is misleading here. It not only implies that the MP is “greater” than the M-A, which is questionable, but also that the M-A isn’t even among the great film cameras, which is ridiculous.
Hi Lugen, thanks for the comment and do have a point but for me the MP is the perfect film camera, sadly it does have more plastic than the M-A but the M-A does not come in the black paint finish.It does come down to personal preference, its nice that Leica are still make the MP and M-A.
@@lugentaubner6853 I'll have one of each. If Leica wants to give me a sample bag...
Well blackbird sounds most interesting to me :)Well blackbird sounds most interesting to me :) and i love the idea of the Kodak metal film holder case. I ordered two myself just now coz one shop here has them in stock tool
Looking forward to shooting blackbird. Let me know what you think of the Kodak cases when you get them.
I bought an M-A 1 month ago, I wanted an MP and I love black paint, but I am not a fan of how easily the black paint come off of the MP. Seems like Leica has made it to wear off easily to please people who are not heavy users. Unfortunately I had to return two M-A and eventually I got a refund (bad quality control on these new leicas). This MP does look nice though. Congrats on the camera.
Sorry to hear about the 2 x M-A's, I hope my MP is ok 😱. Going to be shooting with the MP for a long time and will feature in my videos from time to time, will be interesting to look back and see how the MP has aged
My vote goes to Berlin as well, but you should get a roll of the Cinestill B&W film, I don’t see enough videos on that. Also, you gotta go full on Jim Marshall an walk around with 2 or more Leica M around your neck or slung on your back when reviewing the M-P.
Finding it hard to get hold of the Cinestill B&W film, will see if BH Photo has any in stock. Never shot with 2 Leica's at the same time, will never to give it ago one day 😉
Shoot a film stock you are very familiar with for your first roll. Personally I'd go with Tri-X. Historically, probably more Tri-X shot thru Leicas than any other stock.
Good point, I’m a huge fan of Tri-X
I'd go with the Blackbird - such a cool name and matches with the camera.
Thanks Angus
Hands down, HP5
Retro 400s for the Retro Leica MP. Congrats for your new Leica MP. Enjoy.
I like the way you think 🤣
So which lens is going into first? Pls review camera!
Hi Peter, will be my 28mm Summicron
@@DarrylCarey wow! Not the 35 or 50? Just wondering, of course depends I what you shoot! Just for personal interest! 🙏🏻
Bought from Rangefinder HK a few times! They’re top notch!
Rangefinder is an amazing company to deal with, great service and they always get back to you
German camera ... go with the Berlin as first film (even if the film is not made in germany, sounds cool)
Thank you for another very good video. RS. Canada
Do you use it, Darryl? Would love to see a review.
It has to be Tri-X or HP5, as an Ilford fan I would go with HP5
Wonderful, with only one slight annoyance. That is, the meter stays on and drains the battery if you leave the camera cocked, and don't turn the top dial to "off". Would have been easy for Leica to add an auto off.
So many times I have gone to shoot my M6 and the battery is drained because I always leave the camera cocked ready to shoot. Will have to try to not leave the camera cocked or just shoot more film 😉
These Kodak film cases are great but way too impractical to me as I don‘t exactly know where I should put such a big solid box when I‘m out traveling and shooting.
Hi, how do you store your film when travelling or just out shooting?
I am voting for the Rollei blackbird
That’s probably the best camera box I’ve ever seen lol
Leica boxes unique, does make the unboxing feel extra special.
They used to do one where you pulled a tab and the whole thing opened gracefully like a flower. My M6TTL came in an outer cardboard box then an inner plastic display case like you might expect with a watch.
@@Tom_RUclips_stole_my_handle I remember the plastic boxes, made great storage case for the camera when it was not being used. The sad part about the new boxes is they do not hold up well. If you use them for storage they start to fall apart after a while.
@@DarrylCarey totally agree
@@Tom_RUclips_stole_my_handle wow I’m trying to find one on RUclips lol (I love unboxing 😅)
My vote is for Blackbird. Congrats on the MP!
Thanks Christopher, have you shot Blackbird before?
@@DarrylCarey I haven't shot it before, I have a few rolls ordered, I mainly shoot HP5 and Tri-X. I just shot and developed a roll of JCH Street Pan, and it didn't turn out as I hoped, really thin negatives, and very grainy. Probably my fault since I pushed it to 800 and used an orange filter during the day. Really enjoying your content, just picked up a Nikon LS-5000 to scan my negatives and it's been a god send for my workflow. Cheers!
Super fine, I'm jelly.
what happened to your old MP? It was only a year ago since you made that one.
Got offered a crazy price for it, plus I wanted a new MP
Blackbird please.Oh man that MP looks beautiful.
Looking forward to shooting Blackbird, I think Berlin is going to win this 😉
I vote Berlin. I love that Leica still make these beautiful film cameras, although the cost is insane. I own an M5, but o can’t say it’s better than any of my other cameras. Enjoy!
Hi Jon, I have never used an M5. I hear they are really well made and shoot like an M6, the prices are starting to go up on Ebay. Still looking at getting one in the near future, do you have any issues with yours?
@@DarrylCarey Hi Darryl. I got a very nice copy on eBay from a seller in Japan. The M5 is probably the most “reasonably” priced M series, but it looks like the prices are going up on that too now. I like that it’s different from the others and enjoy shooting with it. I particularly like the shutter speed dial that hangs over the front edge of the body, making it easy to change without having to take my eye from the eyepiece. No regrets. I do have a number of other cameras (don’t we all!), all of which work very well. That’s one thing I love about film cameras - they all have the same “megapixels” and same core technology, which is about exposing film to light. It’s so easy to get caught up in gear acquisition, thinking that new camera/lens/whatever will make all the difference in the images we capture. My grandfather was an avid golfer and used to say about equipment, “It’s the fool, not the tool.” I think that applies to cameras as well.
That beauty will last your lifetime. My M3 is 50 years old and still working. Having only 3 CLAs in its life…
And i am voting for Adox the last german 35mm film manufacturer as i know…
I think Leica film camera’s get better with age, I have special bond with my M6 TTL
@@DarrylCarey Yes M6 is great too. What i love at my M3 is the Viewfinder with its enlargement of 0.91. Good for longer lenses.
0.72 is better for wider lenses.
If it would not be so expensive i would own two Ms… ;)
Great film stock but I only use and recommend HP5 for my Leica. I love the quality.
Yes....Berlin please. Compare MP with M6 would be nice.
Hi Francis, will do a video on the MP and M6 soon
Looking forward to seeing you use it over the next few years I would use a film you know well as the first roll that ways you understand the results better tri-x dream camera for most analog photographers
The MP will be a regular guest on my channel
my 1st roll is TriX. u should too. got my brand new MP in Dec 2020. U gotta try Agfa APX400.
Hi Felix, never shot Agfa APX400, will see if I can get some in NZ. How are things going with the MP?
@@DarrylCarey so far so good. I’m happy with it. The brass does show rather quickly. My film winder is already showing after 30-40 rolls
Go for JCH street pan 400 b&w, I'm guarantee that the result (color tone) almost same with shooting leica monochrome.
Hi Fred, just shot some JCH a couple days ago and shot at 200 so overexposed by a stop. Video should be up in a couple days, just a quick fun video shooting with the M6 and a Carl Zeiss 35mm lens
It must be a "Berlin". You can't put a Japanese or US film into your Leica for your first shots. That would be a sacrilege. Following this logic a Rollei film would also be fine. And congratulations to your purchase. I am sure it will stay with you for decades to come - that is the beauty of analog photography.
Thanks Harald, looks like Berlin is going to win😉 I hope the MP ends up being like my M6 which has become part of my everyday life.
I have to recommend you go with the Berlin of course.
Looks like Berlin is going to win
how does it compare to M3? which one is greater?
The M3 is an awesome iconic camera, but they are old. The MP is modern camera and because of that they will cost more. I guess it comes done to you budget. Personally I would go with the MP 😉
First film should definitely be Berlin! Sweet cinematic stock!
Thanks Michael
My vote, JCH Streetpan.👍🏿
I have a video coming in a couple of days shooting JCH Streetpan overexposed one stop with my M6 and a new lens I just got
I came back to this video after buying a new Leica MA and a Leica MP. The leica MA oozes sheer build quality and class and the MP black paint looks plasticky. Framelines of the MA are uninterrupted by meter and is a joy to use. Seems clearer and brighter than the MP. There is dearth of good content on leica cameras and lenses on RUclips. For a while I thought you’d stepped up to it with content and images. Seems not. We do what we love anyway. This review you did was a landmark MP review though.
Hi Baladino, hope you are enjoying your new cameras. I have yet to use a MA, maybe one day😉 As for me and my Leica cameras, I have been crazy busy with work (video) and some projects I have have been shooting for a friend overseas who can not visit NZ. This sadly gives me very little spare time to shoot my Leica cameras, I have not even shot a roll of film on my MP. Now its winter time in NZ, my work slows down which has give me more personal time. Plus I wanted to help the companies of the products I have sent and also use for work. I have a few more videos I need to shoot and edit on some products and then I will get back to my film/digital Leica videos. I really appreciate your honest comment.
I forgot to say, yes the paint on the MP is very soft … I have a few marks on it already and I have not even shot with it 🤔
@@DarrylCarey Darryl, I hope I didn’t sound harsh. Perhaps some frustration emergent seeing a person who’s most qualified to review leica gear and lenses and take good images to boot doesn’t sound like he’s having fun and has a lot to distraction to deal with. Take care of yourself Darryl. Regards to you and yours.
@Baladino You did not came across as harsh, thank you for being honest. Sadly just not had the spare time to shoot my Leica's, but that us about to change hope everything is good in your part of the world. ..... You have me looking for a Leica MA 😱
What happened to your old MP?
Had a few issues with it, so it has gone to a new home
Hi , the Lady grey is an interesting film but i prefer the Rollei Retro s.
I have never tried the Berlin film.
Hi Raj, looking forward to shooting Berlin.
Nice!
I want the brand new M-A.
I was so close to getting the M-A, but the black paint of the MP got me 😍
Aw man! What a beauty!
Thanks Wilson
my first response would be to shoot tri-x but my vote goes to Berlin! seems like a good fit, and i'm far more interested to see your results :)
Thanks Melissa, never shot Berlin before so looking forward to shooting it
Congratulations with your new beautiful Leica !! Tri-x 👍
Thanks Freddy
Best camera ever made, I'm getting buried with mine in an unmarked grave.
I like that idea😉 Would you include some film?
@@DarrylCarey yeah so I can take pictures of my friends in hell 😈
@@10Outta10Baby These comment thread is one of the most delightfully bizarre I've seen in ages 😁👍
@@raksh9 thank you, that's why I'm here
Sincerely hope you are joking.
Beautiful piece , but already have 3 M6 and M-3 plus $5,400 price is ridiculous for film camera in 2021 🤷♂️
awesome MP! TriX enjoy
Tri-X will have to be the 2nd roll as I think Berlin has won
Berlin! And hell yea we want a MP review lol
Looks like Berlin is going to win 😉😉
I have that. A lovely piece.
I don't think I've ever seen Lomography Lady Grey, so I'd vote that.
Thanks
Somehow I expected it to be wrapped in tissue paper rather than a plastic bag. The slotted battery holder makes sense, those things have a habit of becoming stuck fast, then you scratch the paint trying to undo it with pliers.
It is strange you get a beautiful box and then the camera is in a plastic bag 😉 Been lucky with my Leica's over the years never had that problem with the battery holder, I did have a friend who purchased an M6 Classic and he had to send it in to get the battery holder removed. I was ready with a mole-grips (locking Pliers) , for some reason he did not trust me😱
Do they make an Earl Grey? Real men shoot Tri-X.
I should get a T-Shirt with Real Men Shoot Tri-X 😂😵😂
I don't care what people say one day I will sell all my gear buy a Leica MP and shoot black and white film for the rest of my life. I would love to see the Berlin or Lady Grey first please and then the rest. Preferably next day 😉
Hi Janos, look like Lady Grey is going to be the first roll of film in the MP. Will make sure I get the rest of the films reviewed ASAP 😉😉
HP5 or the Tri X has to be the first roll, if you look back in 10/15 years and it’s some random film you didn’t like you’ll be disappointed
Thanks Oliver, you have a good point.
Great video! 😊 what would you recommend for my first Leica?
Hi Richard, if you can find one at a good price I would go for an M6 TTL or M6 Classic. Another option is an M4-P which is an Canadian made Leica, which makes them cheaper than the Germany made Leica's. Being Canadian made does not make it any less than the Germeny made Leica. If you can live with the odd looking M5 you can always find them cheap. Hope this helps
I have a M6 TTL so I would rather suggest M6 classic instead. Once a M6 TTL got problem on light metering then it cannot be fixed. If you don't mind to have a bit more plastic inside the camera then M7 or MP is a better option. They are brighter in the viewfinder unlike the M6 or older version.
A lot of like new old camera have already collected by us who have owned them for years, those second hand on sale are mostly overpriced with only a okayish condition. So if you do have the money I would suggest to get the MP.
The meter on my M6TTL failed and it was repaired by Red Dot Cameras in London.
@@Tom_RUclips_stole_my_handle Lucky you, I got mine from ebay years ago, I have put it straight to service. Everything was fine but the meter only worked my first two shots.
@@reddychan9819 Perhaps ask again if the meter matters to you? Maybe it's one of those things where more parts have become available. I remember the repair was listed as 'meter circuit replaced'. It sounds as if it might be one of those parts which fails on a not if but when basis. I bought the camera new in around 1999-2000 and the meter failed three years ago.
Congrats on the Leica!
Kentmere 400 is a nice and simple to use 400 speed film, go for that!
How are you and your part of the world doing?
Hi Sina, Kentmere is a good price film, do you recommend shooting at box speed? Things are good here is NZ, hope you and the family are well.
@@DarrylCarey Things are moving to the better times here in Sweden!
I generally shoot my films stock speed and develop 0.5 ish stop extra in my d76 stock developer for the extra help for the shadows.
What a sexy camera.
I will always go for the silver chromes when it comes to the Ms (kind of love the tiny scratches and dings they evolve and you can hardly see them), my Nikon F2s are also painted black and wear beautifully.
Great video. When a review and some photos?
Working on it
Yes, Berlin it should be!
Thanks Peter
@@DarrylCarey kindly let me know the decision & the results! Am interested! 😉
Imagine using a new for you film and not beeing happy with the results.... I would go with Tri-x
Thanks Gilles