Atty. for Lt. Caron Nazario: “He was Concerned He Was Going to Die” | Amanpour and Company
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- Опубликовано: 15 апр 2021
- Pressure is mounting on President Biden and Congress to hold police officers accountable for misconduct. This comes as newly released bodycam footage of the fatal police shooting of 13-year-old Adam Toledo in Chicago on March 29 raises significant questions about the official version of events. Yet another controversial encounter occurred in Virginia in December, when Army 2nd Lieutenant Caron Nazario was held at gunpoint and pepper-sprayed by two police officers during a traffic stop. Nazario is suing for one million dollars in damages. His lawyer speaks with Michel Martin about the incident in question.
Originally aired on April 16, 2021.
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The police chief needs to be fired too for making such a stupid statement ! !
Get the nazis out of our police dept
Yes! He lied to his community & it seems he counseled this cop to extort Lt Nazario. How can the officers do right by their community, while led by a liar who encourages such an abuse of power??
He resigned 😑😡
The police chief is one of the biggest problems with bad officers. Whitewash, cover up, excuse and lie in order to look good on paper. they can do what they with no questions asked
@@Carlospjr no he did not
The officer treated Lt.Nazario with total disrespect from the start. He even asks him if he's a Corporal, implying that he's just an enlisted dog. And why was he pepper-sprayed? That police chief should resign, too. Shameful and criminal conduct.
My respects to this Attorney 100%.
The second he stated “you can’t train honesty...” got me!!
Facts..
"We have a word for that..it's called extortion!" Brilliant. Respect for this lawyer.
THEY Pulled Him Over
Violated His Rights
Then Assaulted Him
Then began to threaten him and his career. Then they tried bribing him.
It was a high risk stop.
I don't get it.
1. HIs licence and registration were not properly displayed
2. They told him to pull over and switched lights on. He didn't pull over for 1.5 miles.
3.Because he didn't pull over for 1.5 miles the police were on heightened alert, there could have been 5 armed people in the blacked out car for all they knew.
4. They ask him over 20 TIMES to A. put his hands out of the window (he does not) and B get out of the car (he does not)
5. The Police de-escalate from firearms to a tazer an pepper spray
6. HE STILL DOES NOT COMPLY
7. The officer goes to open the door and he resists by keeping it shut with his hand.
8. He gets pepper sprayed.
9. He has a gun on him the entire time.
What is the problem with this? Do you people know how dangerous it is for the police to approach a vehicle during a traffic stop. He was not complying the entire time and easily could have shot them. They were within their right to pull him over for not displaying correct licence and registration. Get a fucking grip you NEED there to be racism in everything because you feed of off it. These police were WELL within their rights here.
This Aussie was disgusted watching what this chap went through at the hands of those two disgraceful “ officers”. As my late father in law would have said, they are not a policeman’s boot lace !
He pulled over to well lit area for his safety and for the officers.
Time for holding the police accountable for their actions.
Demand! That they lift the “qualified immunity “ clause! Problem solved! The moment these people are personally held accountable, the nonsense will stop!
Police union contracts enable. Hired gun attorneys enable. Hired gun experts enable. The entire system is tainted, allowing police to behave badly and get away with it without consequences.
That won't change anything...remove those secret contract signed by the city and police union..
That's where most of the protections resides..
long overdue
That, my friend, is an understatement... Since the implementation of the "Slave Patrol", Black People, (men in particular), have been abused by the Patrolmen as concerns the implementation of the Law... as well as, by the Landmark Decision of Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, Roger B. Taney, in "The Dred Scott Case", (1857), the Infamous Decision that was one of the precursors that led to the "Civil War", stating that, "The Founders words written in the Declaration of Independence, (All men are created Equal...), were never intended to apply to blacks..." This Racially Charged, Imbalanced Opinion, handed down for the expediency of the Political/ Commercial Interest of the day, was the LAW of the LAND...THEN, and since it has never been struck down, or "Overturned"... It is STILL the LAW of the LAND...
NOW!
This whole Legal Construct IS, and HAS BEEN an ongoing TRAVESTY of JUSTICE.. and as such, has been out of order since that Unfortunate and Misguided Decision was made in the first place. So in my opinion; Nothing Less than a Complete Dismantling of the Current Justice System, which has Omitted, and Negated the Fair and Just Treatment of a Large Number of it's Taxpaying Citizens...And a Complete Comprehensive, Reconstruction of a Fair And Equal System, That Lives Up To The Lofty Ideals that This Great Country Was Founded On🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 With Liberty and Justice for ALL!!!🔔🔔🔔
Let Freedom Ring!
I'm sure the lieutenant won't be reading this. I apologize you had endured that travesty. I am truly and deeply grateful for your services for our country. Thank you sir.
I do admire this attorney. God bless him for his humanity and love for all peoples and this country. If I was in good trouble I would wish to have an abrogado Like him👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼❤️
End qualified immunity.
Get the nazis out of our police dept
What the fuk ,is THESES Policies doing !Playing Wild WILD West, they say they couldn't shoot in the leg,Well They Shot That White Boy In The Leg ?Who Kill Mutable PEOPLE In The Store? Leg Shot. Walk Out. With Asst? I wonder if they took him to burger king 👑😂😂 wild wild west onblm
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Agreed.
This cop should never have access to any weapon. PERIOD
This, disgusting as it is, should be shown as a training film. The one cop looks barely old enough to shave, the other one is so agitated he could keel over and let the gun discharge. Take him off the street, desk job or nothing.
Where is the tech....why isn’t there a device to make the car immovable? Unpaid parking tickets, the wheels are locked.
Freeze the film clip.....this cop is agitated, clearly out of control. Imagine what that poor driver felt like.
The cop is nuts. He goes....his boss goes.
Officer sidnick died from a heart attack after he was pepper sprayed & attack during the Capitol insurrection riots. Pepper spray is deadly force.
The most honest interview I've heard in a long time!
Character is a virtual! You can't train honesty! What's in your heart shows in your actions! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Exactly👌🙋♀️
THAT'S WHAT JESUS SAID:YOU SHOULD KNOW THEM BY THEIR FRUITS (DEEDS)
So sad. Our country is a mess.
Get the nazis out of our police forces
Human life is this cheap in a first world country????
God Save America!!!
WHOLE H.A.M 💯
Police behave this way because they know they have qualified immunity and the Supreme Court ruled that police can lie.
This HuMan FEELS what VICTMS are SUFFERING. I’m so glad he is representing Mr. Nazario. Thank you Sir. I pray for JUSTICE and an end to ALL POLICE MISCONDUCT.
I love this type of lawyer 👍🏿👍👍🏽
Absolutely, the Chief must be fired immediately!
I’m an old white woman and I won’t stop in a dark unoccupied area either. Also won’t stop for unmarked police car. Why? Fear of police
Yes. It’s a rational fear. I’m not pulling over for any stranger on an isolated road, even if they appear to be police. I’d slow, signal & seek a populated spot, just as this soldier did.
Right with you sister
Police Training is not enough. Individual mindset of they were raised from childhood,whether you're superior or those people are less than you in intelligence. 🤣
Psychological written tests and oral Psychological evaluation. People feel once they have a Badge and Weapon they forget the Constitution and Laws including local ordinance.
Fear of people of color is deeply ingrained in the mind. Police reform has been miscommunication.
Personal Biases is well hidden until what you see actual video of people of color is treated and that been going on in America Jim Crow post civil war and 20th century America Jim Crow.
History and Historical Facts of Events do not lie.
Amen!. Im with you as well🌻🙏. I Hope and Pray ...Changes in Police force .. Praying hard.
I agree with you
This whole thing points to a need for a change of our policing policies. Quit the studies, remove any and all who oppose, they have forgotten the serve part of their job.
Get the nazis out of our police dept
This has been going on from the foundation of America. It started with the genocide of Natives and then the enslavement of African Americans. The slave catcher patrols after outlawing slavery morphed into the current police gang in uniform with a gun and badge plus the racist laws on their side.
@@doreenchindezwa6319 Human history is one tribe against another tribe. I just hope the world doesn't turn against the usa like they did Germany We Americans need to do what is needed to rid our country of selling military gear to the world. Then the tribes could maybe use talking but will they. I don't think they will and that's the sad part.
True. We think about confrontations we can get into and we decide to let it go but police either feel " threaten" or come at unarmed motorist with full brutal Force like a freight train blowing off steam over a small or minor infraction.
Traitor trump,said drain the swamp,I do not think mankind is even on the same timeline for that happen in the U.S,which is a sad,especially when the Police try to lie,that cop needs to be tried for his crimes,and the Chief needs to be tried for being a liar.Whats next,they start arresting black EMT's and Firecrews,for being first responders ?
This attorney said some people criticized the Lt. by saying he should’ve gotten out of the car immediately. I was so surprised to hear that at first! Because I, as a black woman... I was thinking the very first time I saw this clip, ‘ooh, don’t put your hands down! Keep them up young man!’ as I’m listening to the threat in the officers’ voices. I’m mom aged... that was my first response even though I knew I was watching a tape. It’s just engrained. Someone thinking that young man had a choice really still doesn’t’ get it. Hands down into the dark car to open the door, and all you can see is him getting shot. To death.
Excellent Attorney, Good Human.
Such horrible video. He was so calm throughout. And he was still respectful and they attacked HIM. Heartbreaking video. If he would have resisted he would be DEAD!!
He did resist.!!!
White supremacists in here
if he would have reached to release his seatbelt to comply(“get out of the car”) with the officers commands, he would be dead....
@@luby305 He resisted what? Which order?
If he'd stopped in that unlit place he'd be dead.
That was the plan. It seems the officer was upset with not being able to satisfy his bloodlust because the Leutenant went into the light.
Evil loves the cover of darkness and hates the exposure of light.
Even children are not safe from law enforcement. What a country!
Watch the young cop... unsure but copying the supervisor.
He was sure of one thing... no matter what went down that night, he would never see any repercussions for it.
Yes, you’re right. He was learning and coping.
"There was no severe crime." THERE WAS NO CRIME!
"Ride the lightning" is a phrase used when a criminal was about to be executed, through electrocution. It can also mean "when someone is about to be tased".
Give the victims of wrongdoing HUGE settlements of not less than $25M a pop, but DO NOT allow the police departments OR the municipalities to pay that out of taxpayers pockets. Make them scrape up the money themselves. THAT WILL PUT AN END TO THIS SH|T.
I was thinking the samething, because if officers are directly made monetarily liable for their misconduct (misconduct is such a weak word too), then they might put more thought in how they're handling situations?
@@kryptonarie6367 Someone else mentioned malpractice insurance for cops, akin to what doctors have to pay for. But taxpayer dollars should not be getting used in these settlements - it punishes the taxpayers, not the cops.
@@nobodyknows3180
Exactly...
Nobody Knows...I wholeheartedly agree. Take the settlements out of the collective retirement funds--their pensions. All of a sudden everyone has something to lose. How would a 27 million dollar settlement (the amount being given to George Floyd’s family) affect the retirements of all the officers in that County or State’s pension plan? It’s like basic training in the military. When one recruit screws up, the entire platoon is punished. It never takes long for the platoon gets angry and begins to “police their own!” They are quite effective in getting that troublesome recruit to toe the line! And that’s just one case. Now, there’s the death of that13 year old kid. How much more would that take off of their individual pensions? How about they make it retroactive for say, the past 10 years... No wait..I’m getting too worked up!
@@lindaharrell3916 Given that 1021 people were killed by police in 2020 alone, going back 10 years...
I love that attorney for his honesty and character.
It is not a training issue, it is a character issue because they are writing false statements.
Thank you Mr Roberts! I have faith that you & your firm will make them pay for their actions.
Extremely troubling. If Lt. had tried to undo his seatbelt or tried to open his door, he would have been shot, IMO. The victim was very, very smart, thankfully! As always, Michelle Martin does a great job!
I agree wholeheartedly
Everyone should know better than to reach for anything, without telling officers and making sure they have line of site visibility. Michelle Martin is a Marxist fool.
@@Sovereign_Citizen_LEO The guy didn't reach for anything - and got sprayed for his restraint. Didn't you even listen to what was said in the interview, or are you just spouting partisan prejudice?
I was so heartbroken watching this interview. The lawyer was very passionate about the discussion to the point that he became emotional. What would it take for a change to happen.
Very well said.
At the rate we're going? A race war where white people are decimated.
Show cops....free information...send it over cellphone or give them a telework training day....SHOW them what a good stop looks like in a video,
Show them what a No Stop At All looks like on film.
Here...as a voter, tax paying citizen, parent of a new driver.....would you support a day of telework for every cop on the force? Behavior training..
Officer....why ask "where you headed from". Because when I say...I don’t have to answer that ...you’re going to get hostile. Train them to stop intimidating. They need training. You Tube training films and pay them to take the class with telework. Contact the city council....what are you doing to change this? People are afraid of cops and sick of them, by turns.
People would have to give a damn...
What happend to the lauwer wirh the beard
What clowns. They should be fired, pension taken away, and not ever be able to work in law enforcement.
I could be wrong but this man has strong emotional commitment to justice in America when he said how do u train honesty Thank God there are still some men of intergity and good moral fiber
Respect to that lawyer. If only people like him were in the majority in your country
True❣️
@Carolyn Westlake - Why would you say they are not (when referring to "our country" in a condescending way)?
@@Sovereign_Citizen_LEO Condescending or not, she's right.
@@edwardgiovannelli5191 - No she's not. You're an idiot. You cannot judge an entire nation of people, and then insult all 330 Million of us, with that B.S. I would conceed that the nation is getting worse, sliding further downhill. And that is because of leftist/ Marxist/ liberalism/ indoctrination almost 100% and the corresponding decline in morals, values, knowledge, and decency.
@@Sovereign_Citizen_LEO I'm willing to show my name coward
You should say something, if you haven't already, about the very upset little black girl that police man handled and sprayed chemical or pepper spray directly into her crying face.
Yesss!!!
Get the nazis out of our police dept
My thoughts of the police OFFICERS who carried out these kind of inhuman attacks on BLACKS, are that they are a part of the KKK and deliberately joined the force just to kill BLACKS legally. They are hate crimes. They commit these crimes because they are supposed by higher ranking members of their organizations
Her parents should take him to court. Sue his ass for everything he got.
Bravo to this attorney!!! I am a white women and drove for a living delivering nuclear medicine all over the midwest and I had several State Troopers tell me I should always go to a well lit area to pull over for my safety. They said sometimes it bad people with lights on their cars that are looking to rob you or worse in areas where their are no lights.
Everything that happened to Lt. Nazario confirms and justifies his reason for attempting to find a “lit” area. It’s surreal to me that anybody can find this okay.
Our country certainly is a mess. I thought it was common knowledge that if the police want to pull you over, it is your right to drive to a well lit area. As a woman, I was always taught that growing up. It is so incredibly horrifying what this man went through. He was bullied and terrorized. I am so happy he has his life. It was his calm intelligent demeanor that saved him. He deserves alot more than 1 million. It shows his humility for only asking for that much in damages. It is likely he will carry this trauma with him for many many years to come. Bless you Lieutenant, you deserve so much better
Well said.....please, those who know this LT, and all who are victimized like this...please rally around them. Send a gift card, or leave a cake, a call or note or a wave.
Two years back, I pulled across the street from two males who had been stopped and detained, cuffed and made to sit on the ground,
I stayed to observe. In a few minutes they were un-cuffed and let go. I thought.......this was training at the kids' expense. This was field training,.
The story of George Floyd went--around the world. People seemingly do not know it’s a way of life for people, to be stopped and detained.
The people have not bothered to know. Look it up...people around the world have said...now you can see, now see what we have been saying. all of this time. Overworked, need more training, bad apples, understaffed.....what ever.
Change it yesterday. There is a federal mandate..get ready to make the Republican corporate puppets an offer they can’t refuse.
Push back, don’t let it get way-laid on Gramp's desk....show Mitch the door, he'll never find it on his own.
Amber Ryan. Easy call......email so you get it in writing, you and other females..contact Chief and say....if we are stopped we go to a lighted space with witnesses around....what is the policy.
Agreed. It should be way more than $ 1 million. Clearly those cops had not respect for the uniform they saw.
Sorry sir, You ran into a sicko , Demonic Coward. Bully.
@@yvonneplant9434 Excellent Point Yvonne...Or the ones that They Wore!!
One million is not enough for the trauma this Lt had to go through. Thank you Sir for your honesty and concern for us human beings.
You obviously haven't seen the entire video of this encounter, or the other body cam video of a recent encounter with the police for the same license plate violation(S), in addition to speeding 19 miles over the speed limit, have you? Watching every second of those 2 videos, instead of this brief, deceptively edited version of events, being dishonestly described by the attorney here, removes any doubt that this insolent, disrespectful, & dishonorable member of the US National Guard was intentionally escalated tensions needlessly, in a cynical, & infuriating effort to portray himself as a victim, & slander police officers who were following proper procedures designed to keep them, & the public safe.
I counted no less than half a dozen easily proven falsehoods told by this incredibly dishonest attorney, who should be in front of the Virginia Bar Association defending his privilege to practice law in that state, not telling a series of lies to the American public, on our national broadcasting service with the help of complicit, & uninformed interviewer. I'll wager $1,000 that you are equally ignorant of the Project Veritas undercover investigation of CNN, that was released to the public last week. Let me know where to send your $1,000 check, if you have watched the series of 3 videos featuring a technical director employed by the 24 hour Cable News network, (the other media outlet ms. Amanpour works for), ok? If you did manage to see the Project Veritas expose' CNN's fraudulent form of media manipulation pretending to be actual "journalism," were you shocked by how openly a CNN staff member boasted about the deceptive "propaganda," the many media fueled hoaxes, & the scores of completely contrived, fake news stories CNN regularly features in it's programming? Most Americans who pay any attention to the compromised media landscape in this country were well aware of CNN's socially divisive, thoroughly dishonest & highly partisan "news" stories, but it's another thing to watch With his intimate, insider knowledge of how the influential media outlet operates behind the scenes, Mr. Chester openly admits CNN's CEO, Jeff Zucker, uses his platform a means to sway public opinion, to affect election outcomes: especially removing President Trump from the White House, & pushing assorted left-wing narratives, & agendas for the Democrat Party.
@@kellyowens1868 Please take this as I mean it: You are stupid asf, and very much a part of the problem of this country. And I have seen the body cam footage. The lieutenant did nothing wrong.
It should be $5-million, but we gotta start somewhere..
@@kellyowens1868 Where can I find the other video. Put me the start of the research. Thank U.
@@kellyowens1868 "Veritas" has proven to be anything but.
You know, I’d have agreed with with extortion, then taken it to court right away.
Thank you Sir for your comment. Congress where are you. Reps from US Congress where are you -- We voted for you to protect us and YOU HAVE FAIL.
This is one of the most heartbreaking and moving interviews I have seen in a long time. I'm just a random white lady living relatively safely in Canada and my heart breaks every time I open Twitter or watch US news because it is just like a surreal nightmare version of the US I used to know.
Ofc it's not perfect in Canada either, but what is happening in the US is on another level and has been for some time.
I'm a white American mother undergoing a long confinement in Spain watching the news every day of what the hell is going on in my country. I'm returning to the Washington D C. My two adult sons live there. And I am terrified for them as I watch in horror at the gun violence blowing up every damn day. And it still is my country, too. Where are our laws? Don't we enforce them anymore? Surreal nightmare is right.
@@kristen1467 I can't imagine what it must be like to be watching the rather rapid slide into the chaos and the mainstreaming of a lowkey fascist erosion and undermining of democracy. Democrats are not angels and can be corrupt with corporate interests, but they are not actively trying to roll most states back to the Jim Crow era to specifically ice out black and other minority voters, most of whom are only _pretending_ to believe the Big Lie about Trump winning the election without the imaginary, debunked fraud, while collectively sitting in their hands and not even bothering to go through the motions of "thoughts and prayers" after every weekly mass shooting and are now just remaining silent and at best pretending it isn't happening, or at worst turn it into scaremongering about the government coming to steal the guns of the citizens.
The fact that FOX news is allowed to air half the copy and pasted video essays on the merits of a white ethnostate and the Great Replacement Theory being at the crux of any attempt to treat PoC even remotely the same as white people continues to shock me with every hard fought new low they achieve.
Now there is even an "America First Caucus" led by the 2 Qanon congresswomen who felt that there is just not enough AngloSaxon representation. 🙄
Literally if you were writing a TV show about America and used the history of the past 5 years it would have bombed for being derivative, unbelievable, with cartoonishly corrupt bad guys who are so shameless it strains credulity. Can you imagine trying to make Matt Gaetz look like anything except cartoonishly evil?
It's hard enough for me given that I was raised to respect the alliance between Canada and the US, and I have a lifetime of the media waxing nostalgic about an idealistic version of America that has not ever been possible but is so completely out of reach now, but it must be ven worse when it is your own country.
I don't know how I would handle it getting quite this bad in Canada.
@@Chibikins Good on you for presenting such a thorough and compelling case for justifiable alarm.
This slide into Fascism in America has roots reaching back to Nixon, and to Reagan's "Welfare Queens" blame-the-Black-people scenario. But but it became supercharged with the ascension of then Speaker Newt Gingrich and his "no compromise; my way or the highway" leadership style onto the nativism/racism of the Tea Party and McConnell's pledge to limit Obama to one term, and onto the outrage of the Trump regime where truth and facts died by the wayside to be replaced by alternative--and blatantly false--narratives rooted in nativism, xenophobia, "replacement theory" rhetoric, and active cruelty toward the other. Trump broke new ground in extremist behavior, and by doing so gave permission--indeed, license--to angry Whites to express their grievances and nurtured--but grossly misdirected--sense of victimhood openly toward people of color, non Christians, women, LGBTQ+ people, and anyone not within their cult and, thus, not of the same conspiracy-theory loving, paranoiac, combative mindset: Th sort of people who, unlike Trumpists, would do more than passively accept daily--particularly nightly--hateful dogma from their masters. People who would employ critical thinking and actively question the vile propaganda constantly flowing from the Trump regime. And who understood the terribly corrosive and divisive nature of that dogma and the existential threat that it posed to American democracy.
In light of the continuing cowardice of so many Republican officeholders who refuse to denounce "The Big Lie", as well as so many other lies promulgated by the Trump camp, but who, in many instances, compound and further those lies, it is difficult to remain terribly hopeful about the states.
Cheers
@@Chibikins It already is in canada. The whole world didn't listen this summer it's a worldwide problem Period think about it. Last summer should have been a wake up call. It's here it's there it's everywhere.
@@jdarst100 Exactly! Greetings from Germany
Bravo, Thomas Roberts. You're a good man.
I am glad this abusive ex-officer is off the force. I pray the young lieutenant wins his lawsuit. I really appreciate his defense attorney.
I’m glad someone realizes if you have your hands out the window as commanded, how do you get out of the car with your seat belt on! The police acted so poorly to a American citizen servicing our country, that is no way to treat anyone for a traffic stop!
We're not dealing with bad 🍎. We're dealing with rotten 🌳.
Absolutely.
It's time to shake a few trees 💯 AMEN 🙏
Evil
That's a picture of a tree not an apple🦎
Facts 💯 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
THEY Also Gave Him
Conflicting Commands
To Confuse Him
Which Would Authorize
Them To Shoot FIRST
Yep, you read my mind.
The set up conflicting commands will get you killed so pay attention listen carefully because these people are very sick
And to make matters worse, when he said he was afraid, the officer said, you should be.
At that time, I was afraid the soldier is going to die.
COPS Think They BIG
Dog on the Streets
BUT When SOLDIERS
Let LOOSE😏
They wanted to kill someone BLACK that night
The way Mr. Nozario handled the encounter probably saved himself from getting shot.
Respect to the Atty., the old kind Republican that even if I disagreed with I could respect. Respect both as a political opponent, but as a fellow human being.
Excellent interview, honorable man, always the best; Michelle Martin.
I too agree
Yes! Thanks Michelle Martin, you aak the most thought provoking and intelligent questions!
Appreciate this interview. Stop the wall of silence and speak for African American males. Stop embarrassing our great nation.
Horrifying thought that thousands of these cases happen with no camera record and no report ever happening. Coverup attempt suggests this happens a lot! I am impressed with this Lt. calm and now taking action to shine a light on this problem. Must ask for screening and removing power hungry officers from their jobs. Fire and blacklist. They ( bad cops) must be forced to find work that does not allow them to carry a weapon.
There are NO GOOD COPS.
Only one of these Cops were fired.
The other did NOTHING. He completely supported the Vicious partner.
There are NO GOOD COPS!
Exact d same thing I was thinking !
For those who say you should just comply, well he was complying
With these cops it's NOT a training issue,it's a personality defect issue. Fire BAD COPS NOW!
“How do you train ‘honesty’?” Exactly. That’s all you have to look at, is the police report in which the two officers made up a story w/ facts that are objectively false. So glad the Lt. is represented by such a smart, decent man!
Wise words from a brilliant attorney. I take my hat off to you, Mr. Roberts.
without the video camera
nothing would have happened
this has been going on for years
no wonder they resisted body cameras
"The nation began with ideals..it has not lived up to those ideals..."
I have a story that I would like to share that I think sheds some much needed light on the abuse of power committed daily by police officers throughout the country. Some years ago I was a photo journalist documenting poverty in the American Southwest for the US Office of Economic Opportunity in Albuquerque, NM. As a Federal employee I held a GSA License and was assigned a standard issue gray GSA car bearing US Government license plates. One afternoon I was driving along Albuquerque's busy Central Blvd. in rush hour traffic when I came upon an officer in a city police cruiser who had pulled someone over for a traffic infraction. Unfortunately the officer had chosen to do this in a high traffic area under a dark overpass that blocked the daylight and he was creating a very dangerous bottleneck. As the backed up traffic slowly made its way around the police cruiser I tapped my horn and said to the officer, "Not a safe spot to pull someone over and you may cause an accident." Two or 3 blocks later I spotted a flashing blue light in my mirror and when I reached an intersection with a side road I turned down it and pulled over. When the officer walked up to my side window I lowered it and asked him what the problem was. His response was, "The problem is you tried to run over a cop." To which I replied, "I what?" It quickly became clear in the ensuing exchange that this second officer had been summoned by his pal under the overpass to ensure that I was penalized for having the nerve to politely tell a police officer he had created a dangerous traffic obstruction. Despite my explaining that I had not only not tried to run over a police officer but had tried to let him know he was placing himself in danger, the police officer demanded I produce my driver's license. After I handed him my GSA issued drivers license he walked back and got into his police cruiser. About twenty minutes later he returned and literally threw the laminated license in my face, narrowly missing my right eye. Up to this point I'd been willing to turn the other cheek to this obvious abuse of police power but when the sharp edged laminated license hit me in the face I decided enough was enough and I asked the officer for his name and badge number. When he refused to identify himself and walked back to his police cruiser I grabbed a notebook and pen, got out of my car and began writing down his car's license plate number. The officer jumped out of his cruiser and asked me what I thought I was doing. I replied that since he refused to identify himself I was taking down his plate number so that I could file a complaint against him. At that point he blurted out his name and badge number and I got back in my car and headed for police headquarters about a half mile distant. The police officer literally tailgated me the entire way only accelerating past me when the headquarters came into view. When the police officer at the front desk asked what I wanted I replied that I would like to file a complaint against the officer for abuse of power. Eventually the desk sergeant called a police lieutenant to take my complaint and we adjourned to an interview room. After explaining what had occurred to the lieutenant his response was, "I'm not sure what your problem is the officer didn't hit you did he?" Clearly the lieutenant felt that yelling at me, refusing to identify himself, throwing my license in my face and then tailgating me for half a mile in an effort to intimidate me were not worthy of a citizens complaint. When I insisted that he file my complaint he smiled and said, "Okay if you want to waste your time feel free to do so. But I'll warn you that in Albuquerque we have a demerit system and all the officer will have to do to wipe out your complaint is help a little old lady cross the street and he's good as gold." Now in no way am I suggesting that this incident in anyway approaches the abuse level daily suffered by blacks and other minorities throughout America. It doesn't even come close! But if a middle class white Federal employee driving a GSA car and holding a US Government driver's license is treated this way imagine what sort of treatment blacks and other minorities face. The time is long, long past when police officers must face real consequences for their actions like any other public employee!
Thank you for taking the time for speaking the truth
Thank you for sharing your unpleasant experience of what has become cultural in American policing. As I read your account I could picture it unfold in my minds eye, and it's infuriating. Kudos for filing a complaint.
Civil rights complaint including how the police clear their records!
I've just watched a video about this incident by The Officer Tatum which throws a whole different slant on it. It seems if you're black in America you're damned if you do and damned if you don't.
The gangstas with badges *always* set the stage for upping the anti: a phone 'mistaken' for a gun how many times have we heard/read that line of crap? A toy gun 'mistaken' for a real gun. Hands up how many boys and young men/boys of color have died because 'they were in fear for their lives'? A mental break down leads to death. The list goes on and on to exhaustion.
@@maryrodger5130 "Some of Those that work Forces".....
"Are the Same that Burn Crosses"
-Rage Against the Machine
Understand I'm not playing the victim role at all by saying this,its just my perception
That's price we as black men face from birth in america, we may not be in chains anymore, But we are still seen as slaves it's as clear as day, and I hate to say it but it'll never change 💯
I would not take account of anything that Officer Tatum has to say. That man is disgraceful and full of self-hate. He maintains that Breonna Taylor was a drug queen because she was seen taking packages to a drug house. For all he knows she could have been visiting someone taking them something and may not have known it was a drug house. That man always condemns the victims in these encounters.
@@jand1144 I understand that you are not playing a role, but living a reality. There has been some change, just not as much as we had perceived there to be. We see now. Don't say never.
But this is the hardest fight. It is where the rubber meets the road. The longest running, most pervasive, and most protected application of the oppression----disproportionately handed out to you and everyone that looks like you. And it affects lives across all aspects of someone's life for all of their lives, and their very lives in an instant. And it can and has been used to perpetuate the narrative that it just helps to create.
But it is being exposed like it never could before. People wielding the power they obtain, who use to to oppress, don't want to give it up. Be they a police officer, or those who the police know to protect the most, the further on up the line they are in station and financial station, the more protection they receive. None of them who oppress want to lose their power to oppress and their protection for being able to wield that power without consequence to themselves.
You can see the passion in this mans eyes when he talks about equality and what he believes
Thomas Roberts Esquire , you are indeed a man of integrity. It is very sad when officers like these are kept on the force without consequences for failure to serve and protect us. There is a systemic problem within police and Sheriffs' departments with hiring, retainment, and accountability of bad elements. I have never had a negative experience with the police but recent events are infuriating and disheartening. Nobody has the right to talk to fellow citizens like they are less than. Rodriguez will move on to another police department with no consequences😱
You can also stop “prisoners for profit” too. Gotta keep those prisons full. 😉.
This is the lawyer every other lawyer should aspire to be.
This is faaaarr more than a training issue.
Wow, this man has a heart
That disgusting cheif should be fired. The way that man was treated is heartbreaking . That's what happens when you are considered a hero just because your chosen job might put you in danger . Cops are not heroes . They choose the job were trained and equipped to do it.
Get the nazis out of our police dept
And they still screw everything up! Not all, but it only takes a few to ruin the whole police force!!!
Lt is a true hero and the officer is just a bully with a badge. "ride the lightening" disgusting.
The people who have extreme bias and have a tendency to abuse power need to be held accountable and removed from public service for the safety of all Americans.
Wow I felt this in my heart from this interview with Thomas 🥺🥺🥺😢
What a compelling interview.... This lawyer should testify before congress on the disparities concerning people of color and how they are treated.
Excellent idea!
Agree and disagree - it’s too easy to hold more hearings, commission new reports. The problems are known and a lot of the solutions are known. There’s just no political will to purge the bullies and racists from the cops, institute the rigorous screening that would keep them from being hired, and mandate 2 years of training with federal guidelines for what the training will and will not include. In the meanwhile, it ought to be fairly simple to at least forbid police to stop anyone for traffic infractions. Send a note in the mail to say a tail light is out, please get it replaced. That’s what they say to the few white people pulled over for petty stuff like this. I wonder if that could be done by executive order?
THEY KNO THEY JUST DON'T GIVE A DAMMMM!!!!!
Unfortunately, our contemporary GOP - not to be confused with the Party of Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt & Eisenhower - prefer the status quo as long as it keeps them in power, and The Constitution be damned.
Christina well stated! Great attorney.
Justice ⚖
To Charge Police Chief
And Both Officers
Officers Must Be Held
Accountable For Each
Others Actions in Line of Duty
They could also get the other people this happens to "all the time" and subpoena the body cams from those incidents. Sounds like the police department has a lot more damages to correct in that community than just the Lieutenant.
I Love that lawyer 💙
I think he was extremely close to being shot and killed. And for what? This incident encapsulates the entirety of the black v law enforcement experience.
So in that sense it was for us to see and keep close to our vest in form of a reference to share with females who are family,church members and or any young person in a new state. locations. Yes make it part of drivers education and the police safety protocol before a young person goes out to work or out to college out the door to go to life.
It encapsulated the strains and uncertainty of our police officers in today's society. They have to constantly be on guard for those who refuse to comply, are they just being assholes, or are they going to come out shooting?
Thank you for this important interview.
Get the nazis out of our police dept
The cops intended killing him had he attempted to open the door to get out, because they will claim he was reaching for a gun.
“NO ONE SHOULD BE TREATED LIKE THIS”......no one!!!!!!
Lt. Asked for a Supervisor. However he ended up with a jacka** anyway. Charge him with extortion. People are dying. These are human beings. No not talking or getting involved means these people careless.
What about traffic cameras? Take a photo of the tag....send a letter, we think there's a problem...,.prove otherwise, please. Sticker fell off...how can anybody know that, two days for a letter to be apprised of the infraction.
This much fear and time and risk to life -----because a taillight is out?
It is a verifiable fact...we are losing respect for law enforcement. 30 years ago...they escalate over nothing, thought not wearing a seatbelt...wrong...cop has a screaming fit, rather admit a mistake, They've got to be stopped.
Hit them with monetary damages, loss of benefits, whatever it takes. The public is being victimized.
Can't keep the stories straight....what happened about teenage kid walking home in the ice....what happened with that?
Get the nazis out of our police dept
@@jdarst100 Could be better said, Tim. Let's think....as long as this horrible thing is before us...let's unpack what got us here.
Dashboard cameras didn't work, but neither did body cams. Diversity in police force....that didn't last long to fail as the solution.
A scholarly look at what's going on -----Matt Taiabi had it with well researched book about murder of Eric Gardner....they wanted the 'hood for expensive condos...message was subliminal or not so much at all. Only thing that remains a constant is...Stanford Prison Experiment.
You know Murphy's Law...whatever can go wrong,......will?
Same.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment
Why are police officers in America so aggressive? It’s so disturbing
@@FM-in8pn We need to get to the bottom of why and when, so it can be stopped. In the Stanford Prison Experiment, things eroded in a shockingly fast way.
For the people who say, don’t commit a crime or he should have stopped, or whatever they do to assuage guilt, to blame the victim......know this.......these half-cocked cops are going home to somebody.
Grampie here with the gun.........he looks nervous like Barney Fife..........who’s gonna sit next to Grampie, kids? Not my kid. Nauseatingly aggressive or Aggressively nauseating.
We can all do something. My municipality sends out fanfare for anything they do...snow removal, leaf pickup. Where is a mailer from the police Chief? Copy this to a postcard, get neighbors to contact too.
I feel such absolute outrage when I see any video on police consistently abusing Black citizens of our country I cannot imagine what the family members of those who were murdered by police must feel. It must stop. These officers must be fired for their actions and we need to overhaul the way police “serve and protect”. It is out and out harassment.
These guys are practically committing murders and getting away with them in the name of policing. Sad affairs.
Love it! There are very good officers, but this thugs in uniform make everyone in blue look suspicious. Accountability is the key!
What an inspiring and thoughtful interview! Im glad the lieutenant has such passionate and able representation.
The traffic stop has become the red meat of police officers. Traffic enforcement is supposed to be a civil matter. The technology exists to monitor traffic without the police. Placing a chip in each car to monitor its speed would be so simple, much like an airplane’s black box. If an automobile exceeds the speed limit for any given area, a ticket is automatically issued. Police don’t get involved until there is an injury accident. The police must be removed from being able to pull drivers over. Save the police for situations that are truly dangerous or violent. God help us all.
Agree been saying this for years too. You'd think the insurance companies would want it too
How about people driving under the influence? Wait until they seriously injure or kill somebody?
@@oldschoolpunkguy1 Erratic driving can also be tracked and cops dispatch if detected.
Damn good point.
@@oldschoolpunkguy1 1.) overwhelmingly, it is the police that escalate the violence during traffic stops 2.) see vrjanice2: that AI can detect erratic driving 3.) Police apologists have run out of excuses.....
The police said it " It won't change my life either way"
Because of his IMMUNITY.....That has got to change everyone deserves to live a life of peace. That dept. Needs to be investigated....
Some people cant handle power..
Ride The Lightening is also used when referring to a TASER shot.
This seems to me to be most informative interview on the topics of policing, responsibility, honor and justice for all. It should be a video used for ethics training.
Good Cops should intercede when their colleagues fail to hold to the ethical standards expected of them. We all need to pledge allegiance to higher IDEALS.
Get the nazis out of our police force
Unfortunately at the moment of the arrest there were no good cops present
I think that they, sometimes place the bad with the bad, and the good with the good. Remember i said ( Sometimes ) or some want to work together, in that perspective.
@@carolynedwards2689 I am also hoping and expecting good men to stand and do something excellent.
Please don't use "Cops" as it's denigrating and wholly short for British Slang because the Bobbies have A Copper Badge on their 'Hats', thus Coppers. My Uncle Brud who was a Career Alameda County, California Sheriff following his WW2 Service is rolling over in his Grave about this Hateful situation of Police /"Security" thuggery; too, re the young Hispanic man in Alameda, California who was Killed by Police on 19 April 2021 as they Kneeled On His Back and those are internal organs.... This Has To Stop. Yesterday. Now please call the US Attorney General Comment Line and Press 5 for Policing Practices and then hang up and call again and Press 1 for Human Rights Crimes and for Civil Constitutional Rights Violations USA + on international Levels; and then call again and Press 2 for Cyber Thievery Cyber Attacks and Cyber-Torture USA and beyond. Merci Beaucoup & Always Endless Prayers 🌆🌌🎇🌉☔💒💝🎁🎆🗽🌉🎄🇺🇸❤️❤️❤️❤️⚓🎆✨
Why when the cop got out of the car, why did he tell dispatch that it was a felony stop?
Exactly!
He was setting the stage to kill Lieutenant Nazario!
@@oliviaturner7388 he sure was.
He was covering his a$$ for whatever he was about to do.
Did you really think cops were honest about this crap? LOL not in this world.
Cause all these MFs do is lie
I’m just sick of police at this point! They need to really evaluate these corrupt souls before hiring them and get rid of them when they slip through the cracks and later show you who they are! 🤬🤬🤬🤬
WHY ARE THERE NO CRIMINAL CHARGES BEING BROUGHT AGAINST THE FORMER OFFICERS?
The real tragedy here is that he couldn't get any justice from the justice system. I hope he gets every penny he's asking for.
A conservative man with integrity and sentience- it's too bad his values can't be bottled and handed out to Republican politicians, because so many of them need a ginormous dose!
If Nazario had opted to obey the second command and moved his one hand to open the seat belt, he would be dead. They just needed some excuse to shoot. Very wise decision of him not to move. You can see the murderous rage in Guiterrez’s eye.
I would have been absolutely terrified!
If I ever have to be BLINDSIDED twice in viewing one news interview again - I will gladly take the risk if the reasons align with these ones.
One: I was not at all expecting this attorney to get teared up - not ONCe - but TWICE -- and explain the reason for it when asked. That he loves this country and wants it to succeed at the very thing it has failed at from its inception - that is to live up to the ideals it was 'founded' on in writing.
Two: the person showing this much human consciousness, conscience and INTEGRITY -- Thomas Roberts is an attorney. An Attorney - a Lawyer ...and a Conversative Republican. In.Credible.
NEVER thought I'd see such a thing This was so unexpectedly powerful and satisfying..
Such sincere empathy from a Conservative shocked me as well. I believed honest old-fashioned conservatives were long gone, replaced by power tripping conspiracy devotees. It's a nice surprise.
Get the nazis out of our police dept
Thank you @Terrie Wigfall for your comments. Well stated!
Well said! Greetings from Germany
@@jdarst100 That part -- he teared up about that too! If a person can't live up to the 'privilege' of serving in law enforcement - GET OUT OF THE JOB -- and the good cops - STAND UP - don't let the scum POLLUTE your own good name. SPEAK OUT...
He also hinted as something -- seems like the chief of that dept might be next for investigation and lawsuit (he said there's evidently a long hx that chief has w/ Guttierez that's sketchy as hell....)
Just say they had no reason to harass this citizen. People that deny this being wrong will argue any way . They are thinking Evil also. Hate is the motivating factor.
These are wild animals! How on earth are these beasts in any policing institution
Poor Baby Boy, God bless his beautiful soul. Oh the children, it still takes a Village to Raise A Child. My prayers are with you Saints.
It start with an officer but the lawyer , judge and jury are part of the club .
Strip them of their badges, their guns, their pensions. Serious jail time. And hard labor. And sue them for every cent they have. Sue them so they are penniless for all their lives. They may now devote themselves to charitable work while they rot in jail.
I absolutely agree, and this behavior will end. I promise you.
Money talks-BS walks..
cops should be liable for DOUBLE the sentence when they break the law - not be immune from it.
The police tell people if they're not comfortable to keep driving slowly to a well-lit area and even to call 911 if you think you're being pulled over by fake cop or just don't feel comfortable, and that Chief just totally dispelled that fact, it is despicable.
Hey Christiana Amanpour I love you so much. I am a lady from Ghana West Africa. I have admired you from afar for many years. You are such an inspiration. Thank you for giving me the chance to listen to your beautiful voice for many years. Thank you. Stay safe and stay blessed.