I do like the official Pro Controller for most Switch games. Though, for retro games I actually like the 8Bitdo SN30 controller for retro games due to the superior dpad. Also, for Smash Ultimate, I exclusively use a GameCube controller.
Something to note: That "compartment" under the cradle is not just a compartment. It's a USB passthrough. If you connect the cradle with the dongle inside to the Switch or to your PC, you can set the controller to 2.4 GHz mode and it will connect. You do NOT need to take it out and use another USB port
The lack of RFID and HD rumble support is likely to do with proprietary protocols on Nintendo's part. There is a good chance they can't reverse engineer it or legally can't implement it and I can't see that changing soon, if ever.
My overall points on the controller: Pros: - You can connect the cradle to a pc, giving you a literal switch on the back of the controller to switch between pc (2.4 GHz dongle) and Switch (Bluetooth) - Hall-effect sticks - Solid D-Pad - You can hold Select+X to switch the 2.4 GHz mode between DInput (gives gyro data but triggers become buttons) and XInput (no gyro data but triggers are analog) - Customizable back buttons - Up to 3 Switch profiles and 3 XInput profiles (DInput will utilize the Switch profiles) - The cradle is just too convenient. No more plugging a cable into the controller ever (configuration on Windows can be done in 2.4 GHz mode) Cons: - No HD rumble. Default rumble is too strong, so I suggest tuning it down because it will also affect gyro data - Some very very very small vertical bounce on gyro after suddenly stopping from quick movements. Barely noticeable and you get used to it - No NFC (amiibo) That's all. For all the pros, I think this controller is well worth it. The only actually important con is the lack of HD rumble but most games underutilize it anyway
hi dude, i saw the 2.4ghz controller got hall effect update and can connect to android now, what about the bluetooth version (for android connectivity i mean) ? i want the bt over the 2.4ghz only cause it has more battery
It has massive disconncetion problems, many 8bitdo controllers use a really REALLY cheap bluetooth device inside their controllers that causes so many problems.
@@sociallyresponsiblexenomor7608 Huh, weird. I've never had any issues whatsoever with my Ultimate I do know earlier controllers have bad connection issues. For example, my original SN30 Pro (before Nintendo forced them to change the design) has noticeable input lag and if I comnect 4 or more controllers to my Switch it has connection stutters and even worse input lag But my Ultimate hasn't had any of those issues at all. Also, if for some reason there's something interfering with the Bluetooth connection you can always use the 2.4 GHz connection with the dongle/cradle
I think the HD Rumble thing should be talked about more, no reviews mention this fact and it has been honestly the biggest con so far. I wasn't expecting HD rumble of course since it is stated on the product page, but my god it is the worst rumble I have felt on a controller. Not even cheap controllers have a rumble this bad, I have to actually turn it off on games like Mario Kart 8 or Super Mario Wonder because it is that bad, specially on MK8. I think I will return it and get the original Pro Controller (and a couple of Hall effect replacement joysticks) if I don't find an actual solution to this issue.
Great video! Thank you for the review! I've been a bit fed up with buying Nintendo's Pro Controllers as I've had two Pro Controllers get drift issues only after about two years each. I don't use rumble at all, so I'd gladly sacrifice that feature just to have a solid analog stick as well as a better dpad. I'm curious if you could do a button transplant for the Ultimate to make the face buttons feel more like the official Switch Pro Controller?
Thanks for watching! Hm, I feel like it could be difficult to pull off changing the face buttons because it would require modifying the entire outer shell? But that would be really cool!
Thanks for the great review, Chase! I just got one of these controllers and loving it so far. I do have a question that perhaps you can help answer and solve a mystery that’s bothered me for years now. At 4:50 (cons review), what is the music from playing in the background? I thought it was from Conker’s Bad Fur Day or one of the Banjo games, but couldn’t find the reference. I have had this song in my head for the longest time and whistle it on occasion… each time with me asking myself “wtf is this song?!?” lol
Hi, thank you for the review. Does the 8bitdo ultimate controller have a 3.5mm combo jack audio/mic ? I have a wired headset I like to put on my DS4. If it has not, do you know a bluetooth controller PC/Switch/Android with a combo jack on it ? Cheers
Thanks for watching! The 8BitDo Ultimate Controller does not have a 3.5mm jack. Unfortunately, it's pretty hard to come by any wireless Switch controllers with a 3.5mm jack; if any even exist at all. The closest I've been able to find is the PowerA Fusion Pro which does have a 3.5mm jack, however it can only be used when the controller is plugged in using wired mode.
@@ChaseYama Thank you for answer me, it is a kind of meh for me. I am aware that people have wireless headset now but I am a nostalgic of analog signal and I prefer plug my controller (/title). Thanks for your advice, keep your good work mate o7
3:56 "There has yet to be a proper fix to joystick drift" Wrong. Gulikit, the ones who made the KingKong Pro 2 controller AND the 8bitdo Ultimate sticks also makes hall-effect joy con stick replacements
Joystick drift has been a solved problem for a very long time. Another type of controller that had joystick drift issues is drone transmitters, for a long time now half decent and even some cheap transmitters have used hall effect gimbals. They could have used hall effect joysticks in game controllers years ago but they haven't (at least the main companies) most likely because normal potentiometer joysticks are cheaper and if they wear out then most people would just buy a new controller. So joystick drift has been fixed even before Gulikit since hall effect joysticks/gimbals have existed for longer. Hall effect joysticks were used in the Sega Saturn and Dreamcast but they stopped using them and they were mostly forgotten about for game controllers until more recently where the public have been made more aware of joystick drift and that there is a very easy (albeit slightly more expensive) solution.
@@ddnava96 they did though. Sega used them. They literally told you this. Sega don't make consoles anymore so maybe you're just not old enough to remember them, but hall effect sticks were used in game controllers over 30 years ago lol.
Note: You don’t even have to plug the controller into your PC. I own every console and a PC, and there are some PC games I personally prefer to play with controller. What I do, is I leave the included USB plugged into the PC. And there’s a switch on the back. Meaning with quite literally a flip of a switch I can go from playing on my switch to it connecting to my PC.
I'm not too knowledgable when it comes to response time and latency. I personally don't notice much of a difference between the two controllers. However, according to gamepadla, the Switch Pro Controller has an average 15.13ms latency while the 8BitDo Ultimate has an average 13.93ms. The 8BitDo controller also comes with the 2.4GHz dongle which bumps it down to an average 9.65ms. Source: gamepadla.com/post/nintendo-switch-pro-controller.html gamepadla.com/post/8bitdo-ultimate-bluetooth-controller.html
@@ChaseYama dude you saved my day, tysm. and thanks for showing me this website, too, it'll surely help a lot. forgot to say that i was specifically searching for nintendo switch results, but still tysm the website got that covered
@@duckbyll they shouldn't drift since the only components getting worn are bearings and springs (which can generally handle a lot of wear), not a resistive track that needs pressure to work (hence increasing friction and wear) like potentiometers have.
The Pro controller especially with using Amiibo is an amazing controller. I have both and the Pro controller imo is just a bit better overall, but the 8bitdo is my go to for android games and PC and my pro controller I use with switch
Everyone cries about the missing hd rumble feature. But as good as no game uses hd rumble. Except 1-2 switch. The rest of the whole switch games uses normal rumble. The only real bummer would be the missing amiibo feature. But guys...that's why there is custom firmware.
One thing is having no HD Rumble, and other completely different thing is having a rumble as bad as the one on this controller. I am mad that no reviews mentioned that, specially when it is so present and very difficult to ignore. I have to turn off the rumble on games like Mario Kart 8 since it is horrible and has no shape or form. It just strongly rumbles for everything (driving, drifting, getting a coin, getting an item, getting hit) and the controller is just constantly rumbling very strongly.
Yeah can confirm, have had two of these. At the start they connect super fast, had no issues at all, but a few months in, very inconsistent. Sometimes doesn't connect at all and needs re-pairing. A shame because otherwise it's a bangin controller; especially with the customization app.
Thanks for watching! What is your favorite controller to use with Nintendo Switch?
I do like the official Pro Controller for most Switch games. Though, for retro games I actually like the 8Bitdo SN30 controller for retro games due to the superior dpad. Also, for Smash Ultimate, I exclusively use a GameCube controller.
Something to note: That "compartment" under the cradle is not just a compartment. It's a USB passthrough. If you connect the cradle with the dongle inside to the Switch or to your PC, you can set the controller to 2.4 GHz mode and it will connect. You do NOT need to take it out and use another USB port
The lack of RFID and HD rumble support is likely to do with proprietary protocols on Nintendo's part. There is a good chance they can't reverse engineer it or legally can't implement it and I can't see that changing soon, if ever.
My overall points on the controller:
Pros:
- You can connect the cradle to a pc, giving you a literal switch on the back of the controller to switch between pc (2.4 GHz dongle) and Switch (Bluetooth)
- Hall-effect sticks
- Solid D-Pad
- You can hold Select+X to switch the 2.4 GHz mode between DInput (gives gyro data but triggers become buttons) and XInput (no gyro data but triggers are analog)
- Customizable back buttons
- Up to 3 Switch profiles and 3 XInput profiles (DInput will utilize the Switch profiles)
- The cradle is just too convenient. No more plugging a cable into the controller ever (configuration on Windows can be done in 2.4 GHz mode)
Cons:
- No HD rumble. Default rumble is too strong, so I suggest tuning it down because it will also affect gyro data
- Some very very very small vertical bounce on gyro after suddenly stopping from quick movements. Barely noticeable and you get used to it
- No NFC (amiibo)
That's all. For all the pros, I think this controller is well worth it. The only actually important con is the lack of HD rumble but most games underutilize it anyway
hi dude, i saw the 2.4ghz controller got hall effect update and can connect to android now, what about the bluetooth version (for android connectivity i mean) ? i want the bt over the 2.4ghz only cause it has more battery
@@jokeizi213 I haven't tried it with Android but I've used it with iOS and it works wonderfully
It has massive disconncetion problems, many 8bitdo controllers use a really REALLY cheap bluetooth device inside their controllers that causes so many problems.
@@sociallyresponsiblexenomor7608 Huh, weird. I've never had any issues whatsoever with my Ultimate
I do know earlier controllers have bad connection issues. For example, my original SN30 Pro (before Nintendo forced them to change the design) has noticeable input lag and if I comnect 4 or more controllers to my Switch it has connection stutters and even worse input lag
But my Ultimate hasn't had any of those issues at all. Also, if for some reason there's something interfering with the Bluetooth connection you can always use the 2.4 GHz connection with the dongle/cradle
I think the HD Rumble thing should be talked about more, no reviews mention this fact and it has been honestly the biggest con so far. I wasn't expecting HD rumble of course since it is stated on the product page, but my god it is the worst rumble I have felt on a controller. Not even cheap controllers have a rumble this bad, I have to actually turn it off on games like Mario Kart 8 or Super Mario Wonder because it is that bad, specially on MK8.
I think I will return it and get the original Pro Controller (and a couple of Hall effect replacement joysticks) if I don't find an actual solution to this issue.
I really liked the dock charger. Every controller should follow the path!
Great video!!! Subscribed 😊😊😊
What about the most important feature? The giroscopie?
Great video! Thank you for the review! I've been a bit fed up with buying Nintendo's Pro Controllers as I've had two Pro Controllers get drift issues only after about two years each. I don't use rumble at all, so I'd gladly sacrifice that feature just to have a solid analog stick as well as a better dpad.
I'm curious if you could do a button transplant for the Ultimate to make the face buttons feel more like the official Switch Pro Controller?
Thanks for watching!
Hm, I feel like it could be difficult to pull off changing the face buttons because it would require modifying the entire outer shell? But that would be really cool!
Thanks for the great review, Chase! I just got one of these controllers and loving it so far.
I do have a question that perhaps you can help answer and solve a mystery that’s bothered me for years now. At 4:50 (cons review), what is the music from playing in the background? I thought it was from Conker’s Bad Fur Day or one of the Banjo games, but couldn’t find the reference. I have had this song in my head for the longest time and whistle it on occasion… each time with me asking myself “wtf is this song?!?” lol
losing theme from Mario Kart: Double Dash
Hi, thank you for the review. Does the 8bitdo ultimate controller have a 3.5mm combo jack audio/mic ? I have a wired headset I like to put on my DS4.
If it has not, do you know a bluetooth controller PC/Switch/Android with a combo jack on it ?
Cheers
Thanks for watching! The 8BitDo Ultimate Controller does not have a 3.5mm jack. Unfortunately, it's pretty hard to come by any wireless Switch controllers with a 3.5mm jack; if any even exist at all. The closest I've been able to find is the PowerA Fusion Pro which does have a 3.5mm jack, however it can only be used when the controller is plugged in using wired mode.
@@ChaseYama Thank you for answer me, it is a kind of meh for me. I am aware that people have wireless headset now but I am a nostalgic of analog signal and I prefer plug my controller (/title). Thanks for your advice, keep your good work mate o7
on sale for 50 euros in my country, think this is the best choice for this price range yeah?
3:56 "There has yet to be a proper fix to joystick drift"
Wrong. Gulikit, the ones who made the KingKong Pro 2 controller AND the 8bitdo Ultimate sticks also makes hall-effect joy con stick replacements
Joystick drift has been a solved problem for a very long time. Another type of controller that had joystick drift issues is drone transmitters, for a long time now half decent and even some cheap transmitters have used hall effect gimbals.
They could have used hall effect joysticks in game controllers years ago but they haven't (at least the main companies) most likely because normal potentiometer joysticks are cheaper and if they wear out then most people would just buy a new controller.
So joystick drift has been fixed even before Gulikit since hall effect joysticks/gimbals have existed for longer. Hall effect joysticks were used in the Sega Saturn and Dreamcast but they stopped using them and they were mostly forgotten about for game controllers until more recently where the public have been made more aware of joystick drift and that there is a very easy (albeit slightly more expensive) solution.
@@conorstewart2214 I know the technology already existed, but no videogame controller manufacturer had implemented it before
@@ddnava96 they did though. Sega used them. They literally told you this. Sega don't make consoles anymore so maybe you're just not old enough to remember them, but hall effect sticks were used in game controllers over 30 years ago lol.
I discovered this channel newly and I looove these videos!!!!
Thank you!
it comes with a dock and i got mine for 50 bucks so its immediately better than pro controller
actually idk rumble doesnt work for switch and it might just be the switch, but the input latency is just a little much
Note:
You don’t even have to plug the controller into your PC.
I own every console and a PC, and there are some PC games I personally prefer to play with controller. What I do, is I leave the included USB plugged into the PC. And there’s a switch on the back. Meaning with quite literally a flip of a switch I can go from playing on my switch to it connecting to my PC.
Does the controller have good response time? or at least close to the pro controller
I'm not too knowledgable when it comes to response time and latency. I personally don't notice much of a difference between the two controllers.
However, according to gamepadla, the Switch Pro Controller has an average 15.13ms latency while the 8BitDo Ultimate has an average 13.93ms. The 8BitDo controller also comes with the 2.4GHz dongle which bumps it down to an average 9.65ms.
Source: gamepadla.com/post/nintendo-switch-pro-controller.html
gamepadla.com/post/8bitdo-ultimate-bluetooth-controller.html
@@ChaseYama dude you saved my day, tysm. and thanks for showing me this website, too, it'll surely help a lot. forgot to say that i was specifically searching for nintendo switch results, but still tysm the website got that covered
Great video!
Thanks for watching!
Am I missing something? I swear this controller has been out for years? Is it a revised model or something?
Revised model. Hall effect sticks are the big new feature, Joysticks that *should* never drift
@@duckbyll they shouldn't drift since the only components getting worn are bearings and springs (which can generally handle a lot of wear), not a resistive track that needs pressure to work (hence increasing friction and wear) like potentiometers have.
The Pro controller especially with using Amiibo is an amazing controller. I have both and the Pro controller imo is just a bit better overall, but the 8bitdo is my go to for android games and PC and my pro controller I use with switch
"Giga chad", and game controller in the same sentence shuld be illegal.
Everyone cries about the missing hd rumble feature. But as good as no game uses hd rumble. Except 1-2 switch. The rest of the whole switch games uses normal rumble. The only real bummer would be the missing amiibo feature. But guys...that's why there is custom firmware.
One thing is having no HD Rumble, and other completely different thing is having a rumble as bad as the one on this controller. I am mad that no reviews mentioned that, specially when it is so present and very difficult to ignore. I have to turn off the rumble on games like Mario Kart 8 since it is horrible and has no shape or form. It just strongly rumbles for everything (driving, drifting, getting a coin, getting an item, getting hit) and the controller is just constantly rumbling very strongly.
It's too square and not as comfortable to hold, it forces your wrists into a sharper angle
Let's let it BURN!!!!!! Lol
Tnx for the video..cause of it I got mine today..I'm a go set that up and down keys mapped.
that's look like the stadia contrôler LOL
It's not. This fucking thing has mad disconnection issues, sometimes it takes a few months before it starts to happen.
Yeah can confirm, have had two of these. At the start they connect super fast, had no issues at all, but a few months in, very inconsistent. Sometimes doesn't connect at all and needs re-pairing. A shame because otherwise it's a bangin controller; especially with the customization app.
cool