Я прочитал много комментариев и вижу, что задаются одни и те же вопросы. Итак, я попробую объяснить, что есть в сборке и почему. Это спиртовая печь. Как заявляли другие, можно использовать и другие виды топлива. Во время сборки примерно на 3:14 вы увидите, как он просверлит 3 маленьких отверстия. Эти отверстия, которые он сверлит, являются форсунками пламени. Похоже, он сверлит эти отверстия сверлом диаметром 1 мм. Что, если вы посмотрите позже, примерно в 9:20, первое горение нехорошее, струи слишком маленькие. Затем где-то в 10:20 кажется, что он увеличил размер жиклеров до 3 мм. Посмотрите внимательно на пламя, оно действительно кажется больше. Теперь многие спрашивают, зачем использовать веревку? Веревка используется как фитиль, чтобы втягивать топливо в трубу и предварительно нагревать его. Этот предварительный нагрев топлива в фитиле запускает испарение жидкого топлива. Испарение жидкости происходит при нагревании жидкости до температуры кипения. Это также повышает температуру жидкого топлива в баке. Это повышает давление в баке, вызывая испарение большего количества топлива. Повышение давления вызывает струйный эффект. Вы хотите сжигать только пар, а не жидкое топливо. Надеюсь, это поможет кому-нибудь понять эту замечательную маленькую печь. Я надеюсь, что это хорошо переводится.
Süper anlatım, bende diğer videolarından merak edip başka videolar izledim, herkez bakır boruyu da deldi diye yazmış ama tenekedeki 1 mm delikleri görmemişler, tekrardan bu anlatım için teşekkürler
I have read through many of the comments and see the same questions asked. So, I will try and explain what is in the build and why. This is an alcohol stove. They are using alcohol. As others have stated, other types of fuel can be used. During the build at about 3:14 you will see him drill 3 small holes. These holes he is drilling are the jets for the flame. Looks like he is drilling these holes with a 1mm bit. Which if you watch later, at about 9:20 the first burn is not good, jets are to small. Then at about 10:20 it looks like he has increased the size of the jets to 3mm. Look closely at the flame it does look bigger. Now, many have asked why use the rope? The rope is used as a wick, to pull fuel up into the pipe and pre-heat it. This pre-heating of the fuel in the wick starts a vaporization of the liquid fuel. Vaporization of a liquid occurs when a liquid is heated to its boiling point. This also raises the temperature of the liquid fuel in the tank. Which raises the pressure in the tank, causing more fuel to vaporize. The rise in pressure causes the jet effect. You want to burn only the vapor not the liquid fuel. Hope this helps someone out there understand this great little stove.
@@blainemickens798 This is a small stove. It would be possible to make one larger, But there would be a risk involved. I would look into using and dismantling a old gas BBQ grill burner assy. Using 30lb propane cans and pipe it in from outside, with a shutoff valve out of the heat. Make a fire brick square set the burner inside cover it with Fire pit Rocks and or stones. That will give a nice looking fire and a warm room. Still this method has a danger use it at your own risk. Search for, Fire pit Tables or Outdoor rock fire place, rocks and stones, see how they are made and try to make your own.
My guess is there are NO holes in the tubing... The way ANY alcohol stove works is that the alcohol heats up (creating an increase in vapors), which then pressurizes the stove, forcing the vapors out the jets which are then burned by the flames... In most stoves, there is no direct heat being applied to the alcohol but there's enough radiant heat there to still cause expansion... In the case of THIS stove, the wick (inside the tubes) draws fuel up into the tubes, which is then SUPER-heated by the flames, hyper-expands the vapors and forces them back into the stove, which, in turn forces the vapors out of the jets at a greatly increased rate, giving it that "jet" sound.... A couple of problems I see with this design is (1) The increased pressure / heat generated by this design is going to exceed the JB Weld (glue) specs and probably fail very quickly... (2) The jet holes seem to be too small for the amount of pressure being forced through them which is right on the verge of blowing out the flames... I would either make the holes twice as big OR put 2 holes under each tube... Overall it's a good design (in theory), but that glue is going to fail and possibly be a dangerous situation... JB Weld is fine for use in stoves where there's no direct heat being applied to glued areas but this stove is purposely heating the copper which is only being held in place by glue... Be careful with that
You got it right John B, l would also question weather the JB weld would hold for any length of time under that heat, quick set 5 min. good for 230 deg. reg. JB high strength 24 hr set time 550 deg. l use a lot of JB great stuff.
I like this explanation but I still can't understand how the tubes create vapor that pressurizes the can AND draws fuel up the wick. Doesn't the rush of vapor out the tubes prevent fuel from being drawn up?
You can't go wrong when you use JB weld and they have different types of adhesive some may be more or less resistant to heat it depends on what type of epoxy you need to do the job 👍👍👍👍👍
Have you tried using a silica wick in those? Im guessing regular wicks will get charred after some use. Silica wicks dont burn... They dont wick as good as cotton (at least for ecig juice), but its still pretty absorbant, and im guessing it would wick good enough for transporting alcohol pretty efficiently...
beware, glue copper coil will eventually explode. just had my explode on me, lucky no one was burned. Creator like such video need to at least warn viewer.
its a pressure type stove. The three coils act as a heating element. As temperature increases, pressure builds up which results into pressurized ejection of alcohol. Its efficiency is increased because of the small diameter of the holes (the small ones in between the coil). If you check out "how to make Fancy Feast stoves", they'll explain why you have to make a pressure hole. That being said, since its just a stand alone experiment/demo, you'll have to make one (if you're bored) to compare boiling times with other types of alcohol stove.
@@beeeean I can't say much about it since I haven't made one but here's my take: Its effecient despite the hassle of the assembly required. It took this stove 5mins to boil water while it roughly takes 6mins to boil. Its worth the build as long as you have junk lying around. The U shaped copper coil is, what I think, the hardest part to look for. The only thing I know that has a U shaped copper coil is the refrigerator. This stove needs a cook stand that also acts as a wind barrier. Just like the one used in the video. If you put your pot on the coil, it could risk damaging the burner. This could be used as a secondary stove for boiling noodles and water. If you want to do quick fry, I think you'd have to increase the fuel capacity. The main drawback for this,IMO, is refueling between uses. You would wait for the burner to be cool to the touch to refuel or risk hurting yourself.
Ya entendí el funcionamiento, al calentarse los tubos de cobre con las mechas húmedas de alcohol se gasifica y aumenta la presión y sale expulsado por las tres perforaciones minúsculas de 0,6 mm. Excelente vídeo, felicitaciones y saludos cordiales desde Quito Ecuador.
Great video, and you can stand your pot on the coils too. One question: what is the purpose of the wick? Will the heat burn the wick? Will the stove heat and boil the fuel without the wick?
so the wick essentially makes the propellant creep up it, getting it into the copper tube, which is then heated up from the fire, at that point it heats it up to gas state and has pressure forcing it out the 3 small holes causing the jet flame.
If steel cans are used then the copper tubing can be silver soldered to it. This could potentially be scaled up a little in size to provide greater heating capacity. Used as an emergency radiant room heater or cooking for a family, this thing could be a game changer.
the most basic premise to understand is the pre-heating of the fuel. there was a heater used in the military back in the 40's that was nothing more than a circular tube of pipe with some holes in it near the end. the holes were aimed at the inner portion of the tube, the other end connected by hose to a diesel fuel drum.
Really really nice!! Congrats my brother! I really want to make something like this now! Haha But I have to ask, how we "turn off" it? I need to wait it burn the whole alcohol inside it? If i just "kill the flame" doesn't will still letting the gas goes out of it? If there were some way to close the thin hole that let the gas out can it work to "turn off" the stove? Anyway, congrats for the nice project you have done!
Lo hice pero solo salen 3 llamas débiles, estoy utilizando alcohol de 90, cuál puede ser el problema? Requiere mucho tiempo para ganar presión? Es normal que el recipiente que contiene el alcohol se caliente? Es peligroso que estalle?
No lee español. me parece. Pero sí que puede ser peligroso, luego de alentarse por un buen rato, es mejor usar poco alcohol mientras se prueba, y tomar precauciones, por si explota. Debemos esperar porque debe empapar las mechas, pienso.
Temperature rating of normal JB Weld is listed as 500F continuous, 600F for 10 minutes. I'd be willing to bet those copper loops are getting up pretty close to that!
@@aleehene Probably, I wouldn't be surprised to find it gives off toxic fumes when heated too. I would personally use silver solder or fire cement, though I doubt solder would bond to aluminium cans
Vines Lividorial - why you posted a video about "Survival pocket stove 2 in 1" if you want to by from others? I ASUME THAT YOU'RE A FAILURE POSER, RIGHT?
Cfonvip - STFU dude. What kind of conclusion is that, just because a DIYer would like to buy an item from someone else? That’s like saying a chef is a failure if they ever pay for a meal at a restaurant.
Good idea, but as said below the JB weld could fail, it needs tested to destruction. I use a trangia stove with my M-kettle, works great, but I think I'll make one of these to suit, the boil time is much quicker by a good 3 mins.
Good job... Please When you insert the small pease in the top large one... are you shuted it by soldering or by devicon or just close it titly... Warm regards
i like that JB welding of the nut onto the can. very slick. BUT you should NEVER use regular JB weld for heat applications get one of their high temperature products
Я прочитал много комментариев и вижу, что задаются одни и те же вопросы. Итак, я попробую объяснить, что есть в сборке и почему. Это спиртовая печь. Как заявляли другие, можно использовать и другие виды топлива. Во время сборки примерно на 3:14 вы увидите, как он просверлит 3 маленьких отверстия. Эти отверстия, которые он сверлит, являются форсунками пламени. Похоже, он сверлит эти отверстия сверлом диаметром 1 мм. Что, если вы посмотрите позже, примерно в 9:20, первое горение нехорошее, струи слишком маленькие. Затем где-то в 10:20 кажется, что он увеличил размер жиклеров до 3 мм. Посмотрите внимательно на пламя, оно действительно кажется больше. Теперь многие спрашивают, зачем использовать веревку? Веревка используется как фитиль, чтобы втягивать топливо в трубу и предварительно нагревать его. Этот предварительный нагрев топлива в фитиле запускает испарение жидкого топлива. Испарение жидкости происходит при нагревании жидкости до температуры кипения. Это также повышает температуру жидкого топлива в баке. Это повышает давление в баке, вызывая испарение большего количества топлива. Повышение давления вызывает струйный эффект. Вы хотите сжигать только пар, а не жидкое топливо. Надеюсь, это поможет кому-нибудь понять эту замечательную маленькую печь. Я надеюсь, что это хорошо переводится.
Süper anlatım, bende diğer videolarından merak edip başka videolar izledim, herkez bakır boruyu da deldi diye yazmış ama tenekedeki 1 mm delikleri görmemişler, tekrardan bu anlatım için teşekkürler
I have read through many of the comments and see the same questions asked. So, I will try and explain what is in the build and why. This is an alcohol stove. They are using alcohol. As others have stated, other types of fuel can be used. During the build at about 3:14 you will see him drill 3 small holes. These holes he is drilling are the jets for the flame. Looks like he is drilling these holes with a 1mm bit. Which if you watch later, at about 9:20 the first burn is not good, jets are to small. Then at about 10:20 it looks like he has increased the size of the jets to 3mm. Look closely at the flame it does look bigger. Now, many have asked why use the rope? The rope is used as a wick, to pull fuel up into the pipe and pre-heat it. This pre-heating of the fuel in the wick starts a vaporization of the liquid fuel. Vaporization of a liquid occurs when a liquid is heated to its boiling point. This also raises the temperature of the liquid fuel in the tank. Which raises the pressure in the tank, causing more fuel to vaporize. The rise in pressure causes the jet effect. You want to burn only the vapor not the liquid fuel. Hope this helps someone out there understand this great little stove.
thanks for this clarification. Is it possible to use this concept as a fireplace insert instead of high heat to cook?
@@blainemickens798 This is a small stove. It would be possible to make one larger, But there would be a risk involved. I would look into using and dismantling a old gas BBQ grill burner assy. Using 30lb propane cans and pipe it in from outside, with a shutoff valve out of the heat. Make a fire brick square set the burner inside cover it with Fire pit Rocks and or stones. That will give a nice looking fire and a warm room. Still this method has a danger use it at your own risk. Search for, Fire pit Tables or Outdoor rock fire place, rocks and stones, see how they are made and try to make your own.
Japanese are excellent at taking an idea and making it great ...Wow well done I've never seen anything like this ...Amazing!!!
He is Indian
The fact that you got this to behave like a kerosene pump stove off just alcohol is impressive, very good design friend keep tweeking it to perfection
Good tips, practical, very useful for daily life.
This is cool, very clever! BTW I love how the cat stops by periodically to check on the project.
Great concept.... I love it.
Good job. 4 tubes would be perfect for me.
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good. thanks for your video. It's very helpful
Mnogo ti hvala! Dobra idea! Thank you! Good idea!
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Very nice build! 🤟😎
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You have a creative brain
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This is so cool. I have so many questions, though. wish the captions were in English.
x2
Great idea👍
so gonna have to try making one of these. THANKS VERY MUCH for showing me how. Great work n keep it up
Good 'ol JB weld. I've used it on several alcohol stoves on fittings. Works great!
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c'est quoi cette merveille. bravo j'adore
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High, a very interesting construction with the tubes. Kindly Fiete
Wow! Very good
My guess is there are NO holes in the tubing... The way ANY alcohol stove works is that the alcohol heats up (creating an increase in vapors), which then pressurizes the stove, forcing the vapors out the jets which are then burned by the flames... In most stoves, there is no direct heat being applied to the alcohol but there's enough radiant heat there to still cause expansion... In the case of THIS stove, the wick (inside the tubes) draws fuel up into the tubes, which is then SUPER-heated by the flames, hyper-expands the vapors and forces them back into the stove, which, in turn forces the vapors out of the jets at a greatly increased rate, giving it that "jet" sound.... A couple of problems I see with this design is (1) The increased pressure / heat generated by this design is going to exceed the JB Weld (glue) specs and probably fail very quickly... (2) The jet holes seem to be too small for the amount of pressure being forced through them which is right on the verge of blowing out the flames... I would either make the holes twice as big OR put 2 holes under each tube... Overall it's a good design (in theory), but that glue is going to fail and possibly be a dangerous situation... JB Weld is fine for use in stoves where there's no direct heat being applied to glued areas but this stove is purposely heating the copper which is only being held in place by glue... Be careful with that
Absolutely. You need to solder or braze the tubes on.
You got it right John B, l would also question weather the JB weld would hold for any length of time under that heat, quick set 5 min. good for 230 deg. reg. JB high strength 24 hr set time 550 deg. l use a lot of JB great stuff.
And also the wick will burn and turn to carbon.
I like this explanation but I still can't understand how the tubes create vapor that pressurizes the can AND draws fuel up the wick. Doesn't the rush of vapor out the tubes prevent fuel from being drawn up?
You can't go wrong when you use JB weld and they have different types of adhesive some may be more or less resistant to heat it depends on what type of epoxy you need to do the job 👍👍👍👍👍
Have you tried using a silica wick in those? Im guessing regular wicks will get charred after some use. Silica wicks dont burn... They dont wick as good as cotton (at least for ecig juice), but its still pretty absorbant, and im guessing it would wick good enough for transporting alcohol pretty efficiently...
excellent video ...thanks
beware, glue copper coil will eventually explode. just had my explode on me, lucky no one was burned. Creator like such video need to at least warn viewer.
I was going to make a few, but something didn't seem right. All that fire with 3 little holes. Potential explosion is what I saw.
I had one explode too haha
超かっこいいですね!!
欲しいです…
Muito bom!
Vou fazer e ver se dá certo e depois farei em escala maior.
Bagus banget bro..? ide kreatifx..👍 ini buat contoh untuk kita semua..supaya kita terdorong untuk menciptakan sesuatu yang bermanfaat..amin.
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Terima kasih dari Indonesia !
Exelente una gran creatividad felicitaciones muy bien
A mi me parece muy interesantes estos inventos ❤
Wish this had english translation or english version of this. Curious how it works exactly
its a pressure type stove. The three coils act as a heating element. As temperature increases, pressure builds up which results into pressurized ejection of alcohol. Its efficiency is increased because of the small diameter of the holes (the small ones in between the coil). If you check out "how to make Fancy Feast stoves", they'll explain why you have to make a pressure hole.
That being said, since its just a stand alone experiment/demo, you'll have to make one (if you're bored) to compare boiling times with other types of alcohol stove.
@@buki7474 Hmm do you think this works as a camping stove? With wind and all
@@beeeean I can't say much about it since I haven't made one but here's my take:
Its effecient despite the hassle of the assembly required. It took this stove 5mins to boil water while it roughly takes 6mins to boil.
Its worth the build as long as you have junk lying around. The U shaped copper coil is, what I think, the hardest part to look for. The only thing I know that has a U shaped copper coil is the refrigerator.
This stove needs a cook stand that also acts as a wind barrier. Just like the one used in the video. If you put your pot on the coil, it could risk damaging the burner.
This could be used as a secondary stove for boiling noodles and water. If you want to do quick fry, I think you'd have to increase the fuel capacity.
The main drawback for this,IMO, is refueling between uses. You would wait for the burner to be cool to the touch to refuel or risk hurting yourself.
Ya entendí el funcionamiento, al calentarse los tubos de cobre con las mechas húmedas de alcohol se gasifica y aumenta la presión y sale expulsado por las tres perforaciones minúsculas de 0,6 mm. Excelente vídeo, felicitaciones y saludos cordiales desde Quito Ecuador.
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No es q se caliente el tubo de cobre es el alcohol el q prende fuego
Es así de simple amigo
Great video, and you can stand your pot on the coils too. One question: what is the purpose of the wick? Will the heat burn the wick? Will the stove heat and boil the fuel without the wick?
so the wick essentially makes the propellant creep up it, getting it into the copper tube, which is then heated up from the fire, at that point it heats it up to gas state and has pressure forcing it out the 3 small holes causing the jet flame.
Muito criativo aliás altamente engenharia alto padrão
私はインドネシアから来ました、あなたのストーブは良いです
こんばんは(^^)
ありがとうございます。
G bisa bahasa jepang
does the copper tubing have tiny holes under the arch ?
Excelente trabajó
Very nice
The holes drilled in the bottom of the tubing?
How long can you use the burner in one application for given cc of Alcohol?
If steel cans are used then the copper tubing can be silver soldered to it.
This could potentially be scaled up a little in size to provide greater heating capacity.
Used as an emergency radiant room heater or cooking for a family, this thing could be a game changer.
the most basic premise to understand is the pre-heating of the fuel.
there was a heater used in the military back in the 40's that was nothing more than a circular tube of pipe with some holes in it near the end. the holes were aimed at the inner portion of the tube, the other end connected by hose to a diesel fuel drum.
The cooper tube is drilled?
Excelente Gracias
muito bom...alias exelente ... obrigado 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
Genial 👍 😁
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Wow! How many time on the fire?
I like this build but a English translation would be nice
Super idea
面白い!コッパーの代わりにアルミパイプを使ってもいいですかね?
Nice share video ..awsm 📱👍
Really really nice!! Congrats my brother!
I really want to make something like this now! Haha
But I have to ask, how we "turn off" it? I need to wait it burn the whole alcohol inside it? If i just "kill the flame" doesn't will still letting the gas goes out of it? If there were some way to close the thin hole that let the gas out can it work to "turn off" the stove?
Anyway, congrats for the nice project you have done!
(^^)
PARABÉNS BRASIL RIO DE JANEIRO
For How long does It burn ??? 🤔....
Awesome!
Dizel ile çalışır mı? Nasıl söndürebiliyoruz?
Excellent!
Lo hice pero solo salen 3 llamas débiles, estoy utilizando alcohol de 90, cuál puede ser el problema? Requiere mucho tiempo para ganar presión? Es normal que el recipiente que contiene el alcohol se caliente? Es peligroso que estalle?
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No lee español. me parece. Pero sí que puede ser peligroso, luego de alentarse por un buen rato, es mejor usar poco alcohol mientras se prueba, y tomar precauciones, por si explota. Debemos esperar porque debe empapar las mechas, pienso.
Enfim dúvida não tirada.
Kkkkk
O álcool 90 é muito fraco.
Use etanol, aquele mesmo que é usado em carros.
Excelente pa el Café y la Maruchan o ramen
This is a pretty efficeint stove about 5 minutes boil...not bad.
very good
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Sounds just like a torch
Thanks a lot
hola, muy bonito y practico
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Nicely done, though I would use heat resistant stove sealant/fire cement instead of JB weld ;)
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Temperature rating of normal JB Weld is listed as 500F continuous, 600F for 10 minutes. I'd be willing to bet those copper loops are getting up pretty close to that!
@@aleehene Probably, I wouldn't be surprised to find it gives off toxic fumes when heated too. I would personally use silver solder or fire cement, though I doubt solder would bond to aluminium cans
what kind of alcohol did you use?
Denatured alcohol
Muy bonita. Congratulations ¡
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would be awesome to see this and have english audio
Muito bom, parabéns
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Отличная работа.
Witch size of drill bit you use for the jet ?
you are so smaaaaart 😉😊
meu amigo caninho de aluiminio também serve.
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Congratulations man
thanks
Very cool. What is the purpose of the little holes beside the main filler hole? Improves adhesion of the JB to the nut?
grip?
Yes.......alway use small holes when you use jb weld.....acts as an anchor
He could also just scratch the can to create a better grip between the adhesive and the surface
so there are no holes in the copper pipes and but the heated gas in the copper pipes under pressure blow the alcohol gas out of the 3 tiny pin holes.
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Are those small holes where the gas will be expelled? can someone answer me please
Sim, os três furos é por onde sairá o vapor do álcool quando aquecido.
Hi, it works with oil diesel or gas too?
Olá, ele funciona com óleo diesel ou gasolina também?
i think this way less alcohol will be used with thes ame outcome
感謝
Very Nice!!! Kotira Airuton fron burajiru
can it work with olive oil? how mmuch temperature?
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No. This type of stoves only work with highly vaporous combustibles like rubbing alcohol (70% or higher) or methanol
This material inside the coils do not get burned inside? It must pass al the way through in a single piece?
Sangat menginspirasi
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What is size of cooper tube is the best
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Great
Thanks
Ficou..Muito bom..Mas está música ficou ruim de mais..kkkkkkkkk
Excellent! Can i buy one of your stove?
DIY MAN
Vines Lividorial - why you posted a video about "Survival pocket stove 2 in 1" if you want to by from others?
I ASUME THAT YOU'RE A FAILURE POSER, RIGHT?
Cfonvip - STFU dude. What kind of conclusion is that, just because a DIYer would like to buy an item from someone else? That’s like saying a chef is a failure if they ever pay for a meal at a restaurant.
Made in Japan by a Chinese man.
I always knew that the
supervisor was a cat.
In the mean time will order pizza🍕
Muito bom...Eliseu / Brasil
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Good idea, but as said below the JB weld could fail, it needs tested to destruction.
I use a trangia stove with my M-kettle, works great, but I think I'll make one of these to suit, the boil time is much quicker by a good 3 mins.
How is this possible
Do you make holes InThe copper pipe?
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The holes were made in the soda can, 3 holes in top side
Watch the Video at 3:15
He did it wrong. He didn't even use the copper pipe at all. Or the wicks. Huge waste of time
@@jamiemiller8678 no dude he did it right..
The purpose of the copper is to give the fire a booster effect..
Good job... Please When you insert the small pease in the top large one... are you shuted it by soldering or by devicon or just close it titly... Warm regards
Good Job
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Esses caras são de mais
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بسیار عالی متشکرم👍👏
this can be an alternative when fuel prices rise.
😃
show...show. ..show. ....obrigado
Не выёбывайся.
i like that JB welding of the nut onto the can. very slick.
BUT
you should NEVER use regular JB weld for heat applications
get one of their high temperature products
Good
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