Tell us you have no idea what you’re talking about without telling us. That 2.7 inline 4 cylinder is putting out more torque than the v6 2.7 ford. The 2.7 Ford has a crazy amount of issues, the GM has next to none…
@@Billybob50119 how stupid are you??? very if you ask me that gm 2.7 is number one junk for them.. GM has made nothing good in 7 years... all GM does is make junk now...
@@Billybob50119 I find it ironic when you call out others for not knowing what they are talking about when you yourself know even less. The 2.7 is one of the most robust engines ford offers (other than the 5.0) and one of the most robust on the market. The 4-cylinder from GM, however, is the biggest piece of shit of an "engine". They are failing more than GM's v8s.
@@Billybob50119 I’m just saying that GM could only advertise about Ford putting a V6 in a half ton and they were only offering V8’s only to put a four cylinder in later. FYI Ford 2.7 l is pretty reliable
I remember all the criticism these engines got from competitors when they first came out. 14 years later every manufacturer, including Toyota, has followed suit with smaller displacement, turbocharged engines in half ton trucks. Really goes to show how ahead of their time Ford was with this platform. And the fact that it is still in use today goes to show how proven it really is.
There all kinda poo though in comparison to the counter parts in real world scenarios. I drive 70 miles one way for work on the highway and in my 3.5 ecoboost I get 16.8 mpg vs my buddys 5.0 same truck same year just different engine and color gets 20 on the same drive same speed same tire size. Not to mention more expensive to maintain over the years.
@@briceeddy625you might be doing something wrong then. I had a V8 Coyote with a 10 speed that consistently got 20 mpg, but my current 3.5 6 speed can also get that much. Considering my V8 was a super cab with a 10 speed, and my 3.5 is a 6.5” crew cab 6 speed, I’d say the 3.5 is better on gas.
@@miniaddict4534 I set my cruise on 80+ sure I might squeeze out an extra mile or two by slowing down to 75ish or 70. Or for the people that don’t keep consistent speeds and speed up downhill and slowdown every uphill.
@playanddisplay3636 it was at 180,000. It kept slipping in and out of overdrive. From my understanding, I have not heard of it being a typical problem. I hope your 13' gets you to 300k too.
@@302Mustang13 yup. 3.5 ecoboost. I hauled a lot in the first 200k, but the last 100k has been an easier life for it. But from all the stories I hear, I seem to be a rare success.
My Dad bought a fleet of 30 F150s for his home building company in 2013. All his guys requested the V8, but my Dad bought one Ecoboost as the shop truck. It built up a reputation as being the sports car of the fleet over the next 3 years, and in 2016 half the guys went Ecoboost. Then when it was time to turn in the fleet again in 2019, we got 20 2.7s, 9 3.5s, and only 1 old timer stuck with the 5.0. These days they all swear by the 2.7 because it gets such great gas mileage while still being powerful enough to handle any 3/4 ton towing duties if needed.
The 2.7is a grenade with the pin pulled with the poorly designed plastic oil pan with the integrated oil pick tube not to mention the internally belt-driven oil pump........GARBAGE!
@@pathunter7003 cheers! The 2.7 has been one of Ford’s most reliable engines in history. There was a run of defective valves (from a third party vender) on the Bronco production line for a few months in 2021 and now I keep seeing people online acting like the 2.7 and 3.0 have always been unreliable. Ford told the NHSTA that they had 900 warranty claims total, and every engine with the faulty parts has been fixed since 2022. A few of our 2.7 trucks had seeping oil pan gaskets but Ford fixed them for free and the new sealant held up for >100k miles on all the trucks. Otherwise, those trucks only asked us for gas, oil, tires, brakes and wiper blades. Not a single component failure over a few million miles combined.
@@blueridge8992 the 2.7 eco has been an extremely reliable engine, had mine for six yrs and it has performed flawlessly. Most of the people that spread lies about this engine have never owned one and spew whatever nonsense they read on the internet. Ford can’t always control the the quality of parts they receive to build an engine, they did get a bad batch of valves from their supplier and when finding them ford took care of the problem . The 2.7 seems to be built with HD components compared to the 3.5
Brings back memories of my 2011, I absolutely loved that truck. Traded it off in 2020 with 183k miles never did anything major to it, the 3.5 always treated me well. In some ways I actually prefer the 2011 to my 2020 but I can't complain at all about the 2020 with the 3.5. Already have 67k miles on my 2020 and again - not a single issue to report. Then again I drive my trucks, put in good fuel and stick to a religious maintenance schedule.
Maintenance is key to any engine. Haven't had issues with lifters in my hemi with 189k, but like you said I stay on maintenence. Good fuel is another thing people waaaay overlook. Lucas fuel treatment too
While it has never been advised to miss a service interval, the difference is that if you miss an oil change or are just a neglectful owner (like most are for one reason or another) the possibility of failure is much, much less on an N/A engine🤙
I’m curious what octane you use? Got a 23’ and have been using 91 for about 10,000 miles. (Gas is cheap where I live). So far it’s been an amazing truck!
@@timhornswaggle1243 My advice on the 3.5EB, change your oil/filter more frequent with good quality oil. Valvoline and Pennzoil have worked the best for me. Also preventive maintenance is key. I changed everything(plugs, diff fluid, transmission fluid, coolant etc) at 70k. Since mine is getting up there in miles i'll do everything again at 60k. I'm a little OCD with my truck, but better safe than sorry. Good luck bud!
They are on the 3rd generation of this engine. I believe it's dual injected now. First one out of the gate always gets bloody. Keep going with this series. Let's see a second and 3rd gen of this engine
I have a 2013 F-150 XLT 3.5 Ecoboost with 207k and no major issues other than my pinion bearings went out in the rear differential at 205k. I’ve owned it since 2015 and bought it will 35k on it.
Mine isn’t 10 years old but I have a 2017 F150 XL STX 4wd with the 2.7l EcoBoost. Has the old 6 gear ATM. I have 162,000 miles on it and I’m getting just shy of 20mpg. Take it to Colorado from Texas all the time and does great! Other than replacing a bearing and some upper ball joints, I’ve just done regular PM and it’s running like a champ.
I have a 14 f150 ecoboost 3.5 with 113k only things that have been done are oil changes, spark plugs, and 2 coil packs and rite before i changed from stock tires to 33s 13 wide i was getting 24 mpg after the big wide tires i only get 17 but if u drive in the city the hole time yea ur gonna get 14 15 ish. I love my Ecoboost
Andre, that whole market campaign you were talking about was done on one engine block. Mike Rowe went along and narrated it. When I was in the process of buying my 2012 F150 Ecoboost and waiting several weeks before I can pick it up, I must have watched that documentary at least 5-6 times. I also watched you and the gang drive a 2013 up the Ike gauntlet for the first time!
Yeah, that was really impressive. They took a single engine and did all of those things with it. They put stickers on it to show it had never been opened up during that whole process.
If you CHOOSE to use boost only when you need it, the eco of 3.5 is good. On my 10 mile city commute, my 3.5 (aluminum body) averages 21mpg. The 5.4 I had previously only got 12.5 mpg on the same commute. Both are Supercab 4×4 XLT. The hiway comparison is 24 on the new one and 16 on the old one. But when I need passing power, wow, the 3.5 is way, way quicker.
I didn't know F150's had a manual wastegate. You have far less control over boost on a turbocharged automotive engine than you think you do. On flat ground doing 60mph my 2012 is still eating a couple psi of positive pressure (read from the CAN bus just like the newer trucks with factory boost gauges). The only time you go into manifold vacuum is coasting downhill or sitting at idle. I'll still take my 2012 Ecoboost over a 2024 5.0. I've had several 5.0 rentals and they just don't have the beans, even in sport mode. My 2012 doesn't have a sport mode and it lights up the back tires at 3/4 throttle. My rear brake pads wore out faster than my fronts because of the traction control.
I have a black 2012 FX-4 with the Ecoboost and 142k miles. Has optional locking differential, heated and cooled seats and the 700W sound system too! Love the truck, had the molded leadframe repair covered by Ford under warranty other than that no issues so far. It gets all its services done on time.
I have a 2014 Crew Cab in the same color. I bought it in 2018 with 36k. We bought it to tow our travel trailer. The truck now has 125k and doing great. The only major issues we had were the exhaust manifold bolts breaking, happened on both sides of the engine, thank goodness it was still under the extended warranty we purchased. We have towed our TT to Colorado and Utah twice along with South Dakota, Wyoming from Georgia. We have pulled it all over the Southeast. We have over 20k of towing and it’s done great. The biggest difference I’ve noticed with a turbo charged engine in comparison to a NA engine is having to change the spark plugs more often. We’ve been very happy with ours in the 6 years we’ve owned it.
This is a Ford thing. It is not unique to your model. I had a 1999 F150 V6 that it happened to. It gives you the famous Ford tick. Ford loves a bad design and will stick with some bad designs for decades. This is one.
@wysetech2000 I didn't realize this. I only drive Ford's. This has happened to a couple of trucks for me. I made the assumption that it is just one of their nuisances. Ford has a few.
I still have a 2012 3.5 EcoBoost with over 140K. No force induction issues so far, fingers crossed. Water pump at 110k, coolant leak at overflow at around 98K.
I have a 2013 with 140,000 roughly 40 to 45% of that was towing 5000 pounds or more the most i have towed was 15 to 16,000 pounds along with using it to plow snow with 8.5 foot v plow. The truck has had 5 star tunes since around 100,000 miles. Only things I have had to replace is the front springs/shocks ball joints and starter
I bought my first pickup F150 3.5EB 2012. at 325056 km. from Canada, apart from the rust that was on the chassis, this truck has no problem with its mileage. After the initial removal of all fluids, I only had a problem with the leaking water pump, after its replacement everything is now concrete. For the years that I have owned it, I have installed a double oil cache can, I have a complete generation from the turbo to the end, after removing the catalysts, the pickup started to sound like a B8, then I added a panel filter and software that made the truck 385hp and 660nm at the wheels, I'm extremely happy with the purchase and after all these interventions it runs like a sports car. P.S. Greetings from Bulgaria, for the great channel you make, keep it up.
My 2013 f-150 FX4 3.5 eco had over 80,000 on it when I traded it in. No catch can nothing aftermarket on it. No problems at all. Just routine maintained I traded it last year for a 2023 F150 Tremor I was so happy with the eco boost I bought another.
My coworker just traded in his 2012 F-150 with 160,000 miles last year (2023) because the turbos were starting to go out and mechanic quoted $7000 to fix both. My wife's 2014 Ford Escape has a turbo trying to go out, along with other issues. After these experiences, I won't own another vehicle with a turbo unless I plan on trading it around 100,000 miles.
@@pathunter7003 It sounds like the guy didn't want to do the job, so he priced it up. If the customer was willing to pay, he would have farmed it out. 😯
@@pathunter7003 doubtful. He's know the mechanic for decades. Also, the part alone for my wife's Ford Escape was $1200, not counting labor, so $7000 for two turbos on an F-150 is conceivable.
@@GKMess42 the only conceivable part that his “trusted “ , which he didn’t mention that he knew him for decades, was going to rip him off if charging $7000 for turbos
Thanks for doing this episode. I'm still the original owner of a 2011 F150 FX4 SuperCrew (door plate reads production Feb 2011) with 118,000 miles. It's been the best engine I've ever owned in a truck. I've pulled up mountain passes near Durango with 10,000 pounds in a trailer and accelerated easily during the climb. The only engine issues I've had were 1) a bad fuel incident requiring new spark plugs and injectors, 2) hoses that started to leak after about 115k miles, and 3) the turbo charger intercooler / exchanger being oversized by design. That last quirk was a strange thing to diagnose and only affected those of us in Texas and similar states where we can get a huge swing in temperature in a humid air mass during a "norther" cold front. The exchanger would over-cool the saturated air, and moisture would drop out, stalling the engine -- not great if you are trying to pass or enter a highway at speed. The solution was to cover the exchanger partially with a piece of plastic Ford designed. Haven't had a problem for the 10 years after the fix was installed. I had not heard of the "cam phaser" issue you mentioned, but I suppose that can happen to many older / higher mileage cars. The turbos lasting only to 150,000 miles is also news to me. I am approaching that mark in about 30k and it may be prudent to trade for a new model. But with the good track record I've had with this unit, I may try my luck, considering new F150s can reach $75k modestly equipped!
I had a 12 5.0 didn’t make 100,000 miles before cam journal failure. Had a 14 3.5 ecoboost traded it with a little over 150,000 miles on it never any issues. Pulled really well.
@@CJColvin I have buddies with the 5.0 and 3.5 ecoboost with 250-350,000 miles. changed spark plugs and a water pump and collent hoses. I bought mine used and they either used the wrong oil or didn’t change it as often as they should have.
Like ALL things, the Ecoboost is all about preventive and consistent maintenance. Tons of owners with 100sk's of miles, reporting satisfaction. It all boils down to this: Oil catch can Full synthetic Occasional Seafoam or Marvel cleanse Iridium plugs Regular and preventive oil changes and maintenance. 2019 King Ranch owner, super happy.
My 2011 f150 ecoboost has 260,000 miles. It’s been a great truck. Had some issues with transmission and recently had to spend about $1,500 on repairs. Bought it brand new in 2011.
You can watch several episodes of this engine, going through torture test hosted by Mike Rowe. I got my first 3.5 in a 2015 XLT. 90,000 miles and 0 issues. Now 2021 3.5 STX with FX4 package. Intake,cat-back and tune on both. Beating sports cars with a truck is a blast. Ford tough for sure.
Purchased my Lariat 2WD Ecoboost in June 2011. Just sold it last year with 210 000 miles. No issues with engine except changing a few coils and 2 sets of spark plugs. I changed the oil every 4000 miles. The latter is a must to prevent cam phaser and timing chain issues as well as protecting the turbos.
Have 160k of hard miles on my 2013 3.5 F-150. I run a landscaping company, and the little truck has to pinch hit with my tandem axel dump trailer and equipment hauler on occasion and has really impressed myself and my foreman who have towed with it. I live on the continental divide in Montana at over a mile in elevation, this little engine definitely outperforms my 3/4 ton gas v=8 trucks towing here in the mountains, wish Ford would use this engine or ideally a larger I-6 Ecoboost(style direct injection) engine in their Superduty line.
That’s a good idea. I really like the idea of a TT I6 like the Hurricane. That architecture would work great in a 1 ton. You’ve got the space (Cummins I6 swaps have proven that) and the 7 main bears of the I6 would make quite durable. Only thing is, I’m not sure they want durability as it would cut out their lucrative after warranty repairs. Ecoboost V6 is perfect for them. Makes it all the way to the end of the warranty and then becomes Ecoboom.
@@failranch9542 Not sure what makes you think ecoboost don't last. Has not been my experience. Have blown up more 5.7 Hemi's than anything else honestly.
I drove 3 of the 2011 F150. Two were 3.5 ecoboosts and 1 was a 5.0. I owned one of the ecoboosts and the other 2 were work trucks. Never really had major problems. The 5.0 got better mileage quite easily.
On my second F150 with 2.7 Ecoboost, it’ll run , but I’m 61 so I don’t dog em, trade at around 100k, not saying it’s the best engine, but my 17 was flawless and my 23 has not missed a step, I’m 100% a 5k oil change man and air filter every 20k and fresh transmission fluid and filter at 50k. Tow a 6k camper 6 or 7 times a year. I can get solid 21 mpg around town and nearly 24 mpg on the highway maybe 12 towing, lil better if it’s flat, like 14 and again I don’t rush her at all. Personally love the lil V6 plenty of torque when you need it. I also realize it ain’t a F250 or 2,500, I was fine with a Tacoma most the time, but needed a lil more towing ability, comfort and room, I’d have never thought this thing would get better MPG’s, but it does. Perfect old man’s truck and it could get a young man in trouble. It rarely ever climbs above 2,500 rpm never seems stressed, drove a 5.0 and it sounded great, but it was a screamer constantly above 4 grand and didn’t feel much stronger to me, the sound was nice though.
I just bought a 2011 F150 with the Ecoboost, with 219000km on it. Seems good so far. I also have 2011 F250 Super Duty 6.7L as well. Have had it for 4 years now. Use the diesel to pull trailers and a 5th wheel camper. Excellent trailer puller. I would like to see more on these truck.
Ford got some awesome trucks is all I say. They beating the competition hands down. I personally own a 2.7 ecoboost in a 2023 STX and love it. Has plenty for what i would do with it.
I’m no brand loyalist. I’ve owned just about every brand because I love cars and do tons of research on them. I researched for the perfect half ton for months and I always came back to the 3.5 Ecoboost. Not many half tons can offer a crew cab, 6’5” bed, and 11,000 lbs towing capacity. In 2008, those numbers were only seen in 3/4 and 1 ton trucks.
my 2010 5.4l v-8 had to have cam phasers replaced also!! $3800, not sure why ford cant fix the cam phaser issues ON ALL MOTORS. but besides that, this trucks has been AWESOME!! i think i have ATLEAST 6-10 more years out of this truck.( i take care of my truck). if i get 20 years out of a vehicle i am happy. BUT I WILL ALWAYS BUY A V-8!!
My original owner ‘09 is still going without cam phaser replacement and runs nice and quiet. Like you, I think I will get many more years out of it now however it’s relegated to 3rd vehicle status to be used only when I need a truck. Today I don’t have faith in new vehicles to be any better than a reliable older one so if it’s not broke don’t fix it applies for me.
I had a 2014 f150 ecoboost that I drove for 10 years before selling it to my dad. Only thing I had to change outside of regular maintenance was an oxygen sensor at 90k miles. Currently own a 2022 I have not had any issues in almost 2 years, hopefully it lasts as long as my 2014
My dad has a 13 4 door 3.5 ecoboost f150 has 190k on it now after hundreds of tons of gravel hauling and family traveling still has original turbos and 8 original coil packs 2 of them was replaced at 30k miles 3 sets of spark plugs and not so frequent oil changes has went over the oil change interval several times and just now started getting the timing chain rattle at start up still runs fine and pulls fine never had valves cleaned either I now have a 23 f150 3.5 to see how well the new ones go
My 2012 4x2 Ecoboost has been doing great. I'm the only owner and have just 10k fewer miles than TFL's example. The only repairs I've had to make have been one front hub replaced 5 years ago and a new set of ignition coils earlier this year. The rest has been oil changes, spark plugs, and tires.
Nostalgic interior. I had a 2013. But I had one of the most awesome and underrated engines - the 3.7 naturally aspirated V6. Wasn't fast and fancy like the other ones, but that thing was so damn reliable. One of the most solid motors Ford's ever made. I wish they would bring back the naturally aspirated V6 in their SUVs. The new Ecoboosts don't get any better gas mileage and are less reliable than their bulletproof NA counterparts.
Yeah man, there’s no need for an Explorer to be turbocharged. All it does is make the Costco dads drive like maniacs. The 3.7 V6 in your F-150 probably had more power and capability than the 4.6 V8.
@@miniaddict4534Our 2017 explorer is na, the 3.5 duratec, basically the same engine as this guy's f-150. Insanely reliable. Ecoboost reliability seems decent, but Ford knocks it out of the park when it comes to na reliability.
Still happy I got a 5.0 Coyote in my 2014 F-150. Get 17mpg around town 20 on long highway trips at 72-75 mph. Look up Ford Tech Makuloco for his comparison of long term EcoBoost vs V8.
@TheBillp603 that's great! I'd be happy with those numbers, too. I have a 2014 f-150 4x4 with the 5.0 (STX). I must have a bit heavier foot than you. Also my leveling kit probably doesn't help my fuel economy.
Most mechanics today. Prefer the ecoboost over 230000 on my 2012 going strong my dad bought a 2017 5.0 needed a new motor at 40000 miles now he has a 3,5
my 2011 silverado has 246k miles and has had no major repairs done to it. no cam issues, no afm issues (tuned out) and the 6 speed auto is doing great for the age. i also get 16-18 mpg.
My 2011 Silverado burned oil like a middle eastern oil baron, gum up on cylinder 7, possible rear main oil leak and the tranny would act very strange sometimes. I was the second owner after 150k miles worked with the guy he’s a boat mechanic and a veteran airplane mechanic so I figured he kept up with maintenance but I guess not lol.
I have almost this exact truck, got KO2’s also, with 249,300 miles and I get 17.2 mpg. I don’t have phaser issues and haven’t had to replace any turbos. If you replace the spark plugs, gap them to .32, and replace the plug boots, it runs like a brand new engine. Other than normal maintenance, I’ve replaced the fan speed resistor 3 times, the transmission range sensor, the 4wd shift motor, and an o2 sensor. It’s really a great truck if you take care of it.
My 13 5.0 supercrew has been a great worktruck Waterpump, trans sensor,1 wheel bearing . My blend door makes a noise but 3yrs later I put up with it. 200,000kms
I remember looking for an small SUV for my wife. Ford's first ecoboost Escape was one of the considerations. (Along with a RAV4.) I almost got the Escape, but then, fires! Ecoboost failure, leaks. So, went with the RAV4. Later, in 2013 I was looking for a truck. Settled on an F150 STX 4X4, but never wanted anything to do with the ecoboost V6. Chose the 5.0 liter V8 Coyote engine. Quite happy with that choice. I did sell the truck (trade in) back in 2020 and got another F150 with 5.0 liter (XLT with most of the geegaws available, tow package and 2 wheel drive.) Quite happy with it. Don't think I will ever get an ecoboost V6. If anything, I might have a supercharger installed on my 5.0, tuned for mileage and a small HP boost with torque boost. But, it is not really needed. The Coyote engine does quite well.
When the 3.5 Ecoboost's first came out I was on the freeway. One passed me like lightning. I'd never seen such a quick truck. With all the maddening technology on the newer ones like all makes I can't help but think the reliability will be as good starting with the stall/start crap.
160k on my 15 f150 3.5 eco with original turbos, timing components,and transmission. Minor issues with collant fittings on turbos leaking 2k, vacuum pump replacement that was leaking but so far i still love my truck and very happy hows its holding up
I have a 2011 with 205k. Great truck. Did just have to replace the PCM. Random failure I’m sure. Also have repaired some oil lines on the turbos. Great engine and great power. Ford was on the right path and likely “ahead of their time”
466318 miles on my 2011 3.5 engine has never been apart ever!!!! Still have the bad cam phasers but she runs everyday. Chevy my whole life till I bought this truck and I love it never going back
These types of videos are great. Love seeing how people's older trucks have held up. Obviously how a person maintains their vehicle is a major factor, but good information overall.
I have a 2018 and it took me a few weeks to get used to the power. 375hp and 470ft lbs It will surprise you. It just wants to spool up and go any time you touch the pedal. It makes a slight rattle on start up. maybe half a second, I will never fix it if the engine light dosent go on. for why? its just oil moving into the top of the engine. A rust free truck with the power to get out of the way of anything on the road if I need to, it gets better gas mileage than my old mid size suv ford edge. I love it. It puts a smile on my face everyday before I even unlock it. It is the most under rated power plant on the road.
Bought a 2013 in 2022 with 104K miles. It's currently at 145K right now and within 41K miles, I've had $19,000 in mechanical repairs done. Failing turbos and intercooler to the timing chain and cam phasers needing replaced and leaking exhaust manifolds, brake booster, throttle body just to name a few things. Thank God for extended warranties. With all that taken care of, it's a comfortable truck to drive with plenty of power to do what I need it to do.
@@bobcoats2708 I agree. Seems like most used car lots in my area offer that when purchasing a vehicle and it ties into the loan. Definitely a must on any truck since anything can happen and repairs aren't cheap! Lol
I was sold on the concept back in 2011. I wanted to love it. I ran out an bought one in November 2011. The power was amazing because the dealerships ordered them with 3.73 gears because it had a V6. It was crazy fast with that gearing. Unfortunately it has a misfire under light load that they could never figure out. I filed a lemon law claim, accepted a settlement, and traded it in at the 3 year mark, unfixed. I still wanted to love the concept and bought a 2014 F150 with the EcoBoost. That truck had a timing chain tensioner go bad at 28,000 miles along with dropping a turbo (while I was on vacation 800 miles away from home). Like I said, I wanted to love it, but it wouldn't let me. I have now sworn off small displacement turbo charged engines. I just bought a Titan because it has an (almost) traditional V8. I looked for a deal on a 20 or 21 Tundra, but apparently everybody else wants those trucks as well and the prices were completely unreasonable.
From what I've seen, most issues weren't solved till only a few years ago. They were hit and miss for people. I still love the concept and have driven a 2.7 before. But, most people I know either have electrical gremlins or turbo failure.
Most people love there ecoboost and many get on here and talk shit when they know nothing sure they had a few bugs but my 2012 had 230000 on it and it was a great truck maintenance is the key
I owned a 2018 stx and on long trips i was getting 29.9 mpg i own a 2021 f150 sport love the technology and how i get my navigation on my guages and on long trips going 70 on eco mode the most i have gotten was 35 mpg
I have a 2013 Ecoboost F-150 with the Max Tow package and had it since new. I've had cam phasers replaced once, turbo coolant lines replaces twice. I tow a travel trailer from spring through fall and the truck still runs strong and the is still in good shape so I'm going to keep it until she gets too tired and expensive to maintain.
I own a 2014 3.5L ecoboost with 96k. Just recently put a catch can on(wish i knew about these sooner) and it's been running great. At 75K, i changed the spark plugs, transmission fluid, coolant, diffs etc. I also have been changing the oil every 3,500k using Pennzoil Ultra plat. or Valvoline HM Max Life. No hauling or towing...I baby my truck, so let's hope for another 96k+. But of course, gotta know the starter, alternator and water pump will go in the time span. Fingers crossed on the cams.
I know this may sound weird, but after looking at Andre’s earlobe with that crease, that could be a sign of early heart disease it’s called “Frank’s sign” look it up. Just to let you know keep an eye on that. I like your videos
159k miles on my 2012 and I've gotten a quote of $5500 from the dealer for both turbos as well as the turbo coolant and oil lines. The last two years we've towed a 5000lb camper 15k miles. On a cold start there is a raspy high pitched whine or squall from something on the passenger side turbo for about 5 seconds but then it goes away. It may be a bad bearing on the impeller shaft or poor lubrication but I am not certain.
I currently have this generation as a 2012 5.0 and love it! However, mine has a factory quirk where even though it's a 5.0 they still put the license plate off to the side on accident. They didn't even put the center mount in. So I leave it cause it's a cool little quirk that Ford owners know lol
2014 F150 4x4 with 5.0. 203,000 miles original transmission. Had to replace pullies and water pump a few times. Torque converter went out but transmission is still smooth. Gonna ride it out!
My dad has a 2012 f150 ecoboost with around 250,000 miles. Engine itself is pretty reliable besides some cam phaser noise at cold start. The turbos and water pump had to be replaced at 150,000 miles and now the new turbos have coolant leaking from them
I have an 02 tundra 4x4 with 212k. Ive had it since 2019 with 140k. Only drivetrain work done is timing belt water pump and valve cover gaskets and radiator at 200k. Might sound like alot but it was about 2k spent for 200k miles. I get around 15 mpg. I change the oil every 5k and drive it. I have thought avout getting an ecoboost for gas mileage but in my budget would need to get one with about 100k miles. I'm afraid maintenance that would he needed on one would offset any money saved on the small mpg bump.
Awesome brother, I have a 2011 Ford F150 with a 5.0L Coyote V8 in it with 161,000 miles on it and still going strong and its a beast and it sounds like a beast with the Borla ATAK exhaust on it as well.
I bought a 2011 3.5l new, in 2011. The intercooler you showed was stock, but I went in for a recall one time and a black plastic cover was put over a portion of the intercooler. The mech said it was because the intercooler was cooling the air too much and sometimes water dropped out. I now have a 2021 but it doesn't have the black plastic cover over the intercooler. I guess they built a smaller one??? I also lost the blue color on the oval Ford emblem on the tailgate. I sold the 2011 after 10 years with no breakdowns. I only changed the brakes, belt, oil and filters and did general routine preventative maintenance.
I sold to my Daughter & SIL my ‘11 F-150, XLT CrewCab w/3.5L twin turbo having 200k miles & They’re very happy w/it… He’s a professional mechanic & completed his own unaccompanied inspection(s) (@ my insistence) making the purchase in Jan ‘24… He expects this vehicle has another 100k-150k miles in it… Mac😎👍
I had a 2018 F150, 3.5 twin turbo. At 53,000 the cam phasers started rattling! Even though it was still under warranty, the inconveniences of not having transport for weeks was enough to make me sell it. I bought a 2021 F150 V8, so far all is well with it. If Ford have had the cam problem all these years and haven’t done anything to fix it, tells me that the eco boost is a bad idea. Stick to naturally aspirated if you can’t solve the problems that come with stretching the performance in a smaller engine.
@@kingdaniel3519 Funny cause my 2011 Ford F150 with a 5.0L Coyote V8 in it has 161,000 miles on it and still going strong with no rattle cam phasers what's so ever?
Ford did fix it in late 2013 intill they redesigned it for the gen 2 in 2017 . At this time they switched to two timings chains one for each head . My 2020 had them replaced and 45000 miles later I couldn’t be happier only bad idea is not fixing your 3.5
My dads 2004 4.6L v8 just came out of retirement. Glad he had an extended warranty on powertrain used it one time on engine and trans. So many mechanics hate ecoboosts but i cannot comment on them
I have a completely stock 2012 (minus the SuperChips canned tune) and other than needing a wheel bearing and caliper it hasn't given me problems in the 220k miles Ive had it. Kinda glad I took the risk. His doesn't have the locking rear diff like mine does.
I have the 3.5 it has been great when working properly. The cost to maintain is very frustrating and extremely costly for seemingly simple repairs. The quick connect turbo coolant lines to turbos were a ton of money to fix. Exhaust manifold issues still a problem, oil leaks all over the place. I went through spark plugs fast and the oil changes must be done at minimum every 5k. Next truck I'm going back to v8 if possible.
My brother just traded in a 2011 3.5 Ecoboost for a 2022 3.5 Ecoboost. 220,000 miles with the original engine and trans. He really loved that truck, he only got rid of it after putting in $8,000 into it because of the custody agreement has him driving a minimum of an hour for each way for work and each way for his kids plus her enrolling them in sports. So it was worth it getting a new truck. The dealership listed his truck for $7000.
Had this truck. Timing chain started rattling at 60k, had to have it replaced twice, first install job went bad. Would love to somehow know what % of the 3.5s had this issue. Great engine when it runs.
I like seeing videos of how the first year of a new design (before they work out the kinks) holds up over time; really shows what brands are less risky and what brands to always wait for the second year.
I bought a 2013 f150 about a year and half ago and had to put an engine in it not even 5k miles after buying it so I know the feeling of being kinda “stuck” with that truck but I love the power it has it has a pretty decent sound with an intake and the 4 inch exhaust on it and seeing how complicated brand new stuff is it makes my truck seem simple even though it’s incredibly complex itself all in all I’m happy with it id still buy an ecoboost again when the time comes which hopefully is a long time from now
Great truck!! I had an F-150 for a while with the ecoboost and the only issue I had was the exhaust manifold warping and breaking a stud. Supposedly Ford fixed the cam phasers the issue is that they are working through the supply of the old ones until they start with the new ones. That’s the rumor anyway.
I have a 2-door Bronco FE with the 2.7. It has plenty of grunt considering the weight. In Eco mode I see mpg in the mid to upper 20s. Not bad on 35s. Only have 33k miles, but reliable so far on the trails.
You don't need to hold the key in the start position on the F150. Just turn it and let it go. The truck will start without the need to hold the key. Just a little trick. My 2013 3.5L has 178K on it and the only issue I've had is the "Door Ajar" warning for the rear passenger door, and I've got to replace a leaking vacuum pump on it. I'm the 3rd owner of the truck and it's been well maintained and mostly highway miles on it. It still impresses me with the pickup and hauling/towing ability, and the fuel economy is still great as well. (I made a video on replacing that wiring harness on the rear passenger door for those who like to DIY their repair work).
2015 3.5 supercrew been good to me bought it with 18k miles now at 88k miles only problem i had so far was a bad cat got it replaced free at ford run full syntethic every 3500 miles no rattles aboit to do spark plugs and transmission hope to get it to 150k with no issues before i even think about selling
Keep full synthetic oil changed at 5K or less intervals and these last a good long while, turbos included. I have certainly enjoyed my Ecoboost engines, I have had the 3.5, 2.7, and a 2.3 in a Ranger.
I think it’s funny how GM laughed at Ford for putting a V6 in a half ton truck at the time and now they put a 4 cylinder in their trucks.
Tell us you have no idea what you’re talking about without telling us. That 2.7 inline 4 cylinder is putting out more torque than the v6 2.7 ford. The 2.7 Ford has a crazy amount of issues, the GM has next to none…
Fords 2.7 has been pretty reliable. @@Billybob50119
@@Billybob50119 how stupid are you??? very if you ask me that gm 2.7 is number one junk for them.. GM has made nothing good in 7 years... all GM does is make junk now...
@@Billybob50119 I find it ironic when you call out others for not knowing what they are talking about when you yourself know even less. The 2.7 is one of the most robust engines ford offers (other than the 5.0) and one of the most robust on the market. The 4-cylinder from GM, however, is the biggest piece of shit of an "engine". They are failing more than GM's v8s.
@@Billybob50119 I’m just saying that GM could only advertise about Ford putting a V6 in a half ton and they were only offering V8’s only to put a four cylinder in later. FYI Ford 2.7 l is pretty reliable
I remember all the criticism these engines got from competitors when they first came out. 14 years later every manufacturer, including Toyota, has followed suit with smaller displacement, turbocharged engines in half ton trucks. Really goes to show how ahead of their time Ford was with this platform. And the fact that it is still in use today goes to show how proven it really is.
There all kinda poo though in comparison to the counter parts in real world scenarios. I drive 70 miles one way for work on the highway and in my 3.5 ecoboost I get 16.8 mpg vs my buddys 5.0 same truck same year just different engine and color gets 20 on the same drive same speed same tire size. Not to mention more expensive to maintain over the years.
@@briceeddy625you might be doing something wrong then. I had a V8 Coyote with a 10 speed that consistently got 20 mpg, but my current 3.5 6 speed can also get that much. Considering my V8 was a super cab with a 10 speed, and my 3.5 is a 6.5” crew cab 6 speed, I’d say the 3.5 is better on gas.
@@miniaddict4534 I set my cruise on 80+ sure I might squeeze out an extra mile or two by slowing down to 75ish or 70. Or for the people that don’t keep consistent speeds and speed up downhill and slowdown every uphill.
@@briceeddy625Guarantee you the ratios in the rear diff are not the same. That’s what makes the difference
Companies arnt switching for any reason other than nhtsa and epa have made it very hard to meet emissions in n/a v8 and v6s.
I have a 13' that I just passed over 300,000 miles. Bought it new, and outside of an $1,800 rebuilt transmission, it has been flawless.
What mileage did the transmission need rebuilt? Have a 13 myself.
@playanddisplay3636 it was at 180,000. It kept slipping in and out of overdrive. From my understanding, I have not heard of it being a typical problem. I hope your 13' gets you to 300k too.
Is yours an Ecoboost? I ask cause it makes impressive torque that is a lot for a transmission to handle.
@@302Mustang13 yup. 3.5 ecoboost. I hauled a lot in the first 200k, but the last 100k has been an easier life for it. But from all the stories I hear, I seem to be a rare success.
hard to believe the inferior coolant and oil fittings on the turbos haven't leaked.
My Dad bought a fleet of 30 F150s for his home building company in 2013. All his guys requested the V8, but my Dad bought one Ecoboost as the shop truck. It built up a reputation as being the sports car of the fleet over the next 3 years, and in 2016 half the guys went Ecoboost. Then when it was time to turn in the fleet again in 2019, we got 20 2.7s, 9 3.5s, and only 1 old timer stuck with the 5.0. These days they all swear by the 2.7 because it gets such great gas mileage while still being powerful enough to handle any 3/4 ton towing duties if needed.
The 2.7is a grenade with the pin pulled with the poorly designed plastic oil pan with the integrated oil pick tube not to mention the internally belt-driven oil pump........GARBAGE!
@@MyFriendPeter-d4k that is your opinion, quit listening to the internet chatter about the eco 2.7, you just sound silly
@@pathunter7003 cheers! The 2.7 has been one of Ford’s most reliable engines in history. There was a run of defective valves (from a third party vender) on the Bronco production line for a few months in 2021 and now I keep seeing people online acting like the 2.7 and 3.0 have always been unreliable. Ford told the NHSTA that they had 900 warranty claims total, and every engine with the faulty parts has been fixed since 2022.
A few of our 2.7 trucks had seeping oil pan gaskets but Ford fixed them for free and the new sealant held up for >100k miles on all the trucks. Otherwise, those trucks only asked us for gas, oil, tires, brakes and wiper blades. Not a single component failure over a few million miles combined.
@@blueridge8992 the 2.7 eco has been an extremely reliable engine, had mine for six yrs and it has performed flawlessly. Most of the people that spread lies about this engine have never owned one and spew whatever nonsense they read on the internet.
Ford can’t always control the the quality of parts they receive to build an engine, they did get a bad batch of valves from their supplier and when finding them ford took care of the problem . The 2.7 seems to be built with HD components compared to the 3.5
A 2.7 being powerful enough to handle 3/4 ton towing duties is a stretch
Brings back memories of my 2011, I absolutely loved that truck. Traded it off in 2020 with 183k miles never did anything major to it, the 3.5 always treated me well. In some ways I actually prefer the 2011 to my 2020 but I can't complain at all about the 2020 with the 3.5. Already have 67k miles on my 2020 and again - not a single issue to report. Then again I drive my trucks, put in good fuel and stick to a religious maintenance schedule.
Maintenance is key to any engine. Haven't had issues with lifters in my hemi with 189k, but like you said I stay on maintenence. Good fuel is another thing people waaaay overlook. Lucas fuel treatment too
While it has never been advised to miss a service interval, the difference is that if you miss an oil change or are just a neglectful owner (like most are for one reason or another) the possibility of failure is much, much less on an N/A engine🤙
@@BigHRepair The Hemi's in my life have been dead reliable too.
@@coryernewein poor maintenance could be detrimental to the turbos but shouldn't hurt the engine much more than naturally aspirated.
I’m curious what octane you use? Got a 23’ and have been using 91 for about 10,000 miles. (Gas is cheap where I live). So far it’s been an amazing truck!
I have a 2012 F150 3.5L eco boost, running great just hit 275,000 miles and all I’ve done to it was put a new water pump in it. Great truck!
@jacobbrown8482 I hope i have the same issue in my 2014 EB. Only have 96k. ;)
@@CWB1863I hope I also have the same on my 23 3.5 with 10,000 miles on it. Lol
@@timhornswaggle1243 My advice on the 3.5EB, change your oil/filter more frequent with good quality oil. Valvoline and Pennzoil have worked the best for me. Also preventive maintenance is key. I changed everything(plugs, diff fluid, transmission fluid, coolant etc) at 70k. Since mine is getting up there in miles i'll do everything again at 60k. I'm a little OCD with my truck, but better safe than sorry. Good luck bud!
196k on my 2013 just changed the water pump. Will ride it till the wheels fall off.
I have a 2012 eco boost and I’m about to fix my first issue in 300,000, torque converter. Been an amazing truck
They are on the 3rd generation of this engine. I believe it's dual injected now. First one out of the gate always gets bloody. Keep going with this series. Let's see a second and 3rd gen of this engine
The newest Ecos are pretty bulletproof.
Yes they are all direct + port injected now.
Agreed 🙌
Only the 1st Gen was direct injection only. And even many of those are holding up. The dual injection is even better
@@user-tb7rn1il3qthe 10r80 seems to be the biggest issue in the newer trucks.
I have a 2011 4x4 SCREW 6.5’ bed. 178k miles, still has power like it was new. Such a comfortable and powerful truck. Tows like a dream.
I have a 2013 F-150 XLT 3.5 Ecoboost with 207k and no major issues other than my pinion bearings went out in the rear differential at 205k. I’ve owned it since 2015 and bought it will 35k on it.
Mine isn’t 10 years old but I have a 2017 F150 XL STX 4wd with the 2.7l EcoBoost. Has the old 6 gear ATM. I have 162,000 miles on it and I’m getting just shy of 20mpg. Take it to Colorado from Texas all the time and does great!
Other than replacing a bearing and some upper ball joints, I’ve just done regular PM and it’s running like a champ.
Just a main bearing... 😇
Well to be fair it was a wheel bearing
like reading these I have 2015 with like 60k I got last year hopefully it lasts me a while.
@@Sir.VicsMasher but I think you have a screw loose…😖
I have a 14 f150 ecoboost 3.5 with 113k only things that have been done are oil changes, spark plugs, and 2 coil packs and rite before i changed from stock tires to 33s 13 wide i was getting 24 mpg after the big wide tires i only get 17 but if u drive in the city the hole time yea ur gonna get 14 15 ish. I love my Ecoboost
First gen EcoBoosts are kinda hit and miss. Awesome that you got a good one.
Andre, that whole market campaign you were talking about was done on one engine block. Mike Rowe went along and narrated it. When I was in the process of buying my 2012 F150 Ecoboost and waiting several weeks before I can pick it up, I must have watched that documentary at least 5-6 times. I also watched you and the gang drive a 2013 up the Ike gauntlet for the first time!
Yeah, that was really impressive. They took a single engine and did all of those things with it. They put stickers on it to show it had never been opened up during that whole process.
Mike Rowe and those torture test sold me too.
If you CHOOSE to use boost only when you need it, the eco of 3.5 is good. On my 10 mile city commute, my 3.5 (aluminum body) averages 21mpg. The 5.4 I had previously only got 12.5 mpg on the same commute. Both are Supercab 4×4 XLT. The hiway comparison is 24 on the new one and 16 on the old one. But when I need passing power, wow, the 3.5 is way, way quicker.
I didn't know F150's had a manual wastegate. You have far less control over boost on a turbocharged automotive engine than you think you do. On flat ground doing 60mph my 2012 is still eating a couple psi of positive pressure (read from the CAN bus just like the newer trucks with factory boost gauges). The only time you go into manifold vacuum is coasting downhill or sitting at idle. I'll still take my 2012 Ecoboost over a 2024 5.0. I've had several 5.0 rentals and they just don't have the beans, even in sport mode. My 2012 doesn't have a sport mode and it lights up the back tires at 3/4 throttle. My rear brake pads wore out faster than my fronts because of the traction control.
I have a 2011 EB with 207K miles. Runs great, looks great! I have had it 9 years!
I have a black 2012 FX-4 with the Ecoboost and 142k miles. Has optional locking differential, heated and cooled seats and the 700W sound system too! Love the truck, had the molded leadframe repair covered by Ford under warranty other than that no issues so far. It gets all its services done on time.
I have the same truck, long bed tho, 170k miles and running great!
I have a 2014 Crew Cab in the same color. I bought it in 2018 with 36k. We bought it to tow our travel trailer. The truck now has 125k and doing great. The only major issues we had were the exhaust manifold bolts breaking, happened on both sides of the engine, thank goodness it was still under the extended warranty we purchased. We have towed our TT to Colorado and Utah twice along with South Dakota, Wyoming from Georgia. We have pulled it all over the Southeast. We have over 20k of towing and it’s done great. The biggest difference I’ve noticed with a turbo charged engine in comparison to a NA engine is having to change the spark plugs more often. We’ve been very happy with ours in the 6 years we’ve owned it.
This is a Ford thing. It is not unique to your model. I had a 1999 F150 V6 that it happened to. It gives you the famous Ford tick. Ford loves a bad design and will stick with some bad designs for decades. This is one.
@@chaleurphantom1Hey how dare you leave my Ram out! My exhaust manifold bolts broke too! 😂
@@chaleurphantom1 Ford isn't the only one that does that.
@wysetech2000 I didn't realize this. I only drive Ford's. This has happened to a couple of trucks for me. I made the assumption that it is just one of their nuisances. Ford has a few.
Still driving a 2011 with ecoboost and have 162k miles. No major issues.
I still have a 2012 3.5 EcoBoost with over 140K. No force induction issues so far, fingers crossed. Water pump at 110k, coolant leak at overflow at around 98K.
I have a 2013 with 140,000 roughly 40 to 45% of that was towing 5000 pounds or more the most i have towed was 15 to 16,000 pounds along with using it to plow snow with 8.5 foot v plow. The truck has had 5 star tunes since around 100,000 miles. Only things I have had to replace is the front springs/shocks ball joints and starter
I purchased a 2011 Ecoboost FX4 back in 2011. I loved it, great power, good MPG. Perfect for the mountains of CO.
I bought my first pickup F150 3.5EB 2012. at 325056 km. from Canada, apart from the rust that was on the chassis, this truck has no problem with its mileage. After the initial removal of all fluids, I only had a problem with the leaking water pump, after its replacement everything is now concrete. For the years that I have owned it, I have installed a double oil cache can, I have a complete generation from the turbo to the end, after removing the catalysts, the pickup started to sound like a B8, then I added a panel filter and software that made the truck 385hp and 660nm at the wheels, I'm extremely happy with the purchase and after all these interventions it runs like a sports car.
P.S. Greetings from Bulgaria, for the great channel you make, keep it up.
My 2013 f-150 FX4 3.5 eco had over 80,000 on it when I traded it in. No catch can nothing aftermarket on it. No problems at all. Just routine maintained I traded it last year for a 2023 F150 Tremor I was so happy with the eco boost I bought another.
My coworker just traded in his 2012 F-150 with 160,000 miles last year (2023) because the turbos were starting to go out and mechanic quoted $7000 to fix both.
My wife's 2014 Ford Escape has a turbo trying to go out, along with other issues.
After these experiences, I won't own another vehicle with a turbo unless I plan on trading it around 100,000 miles.
If he supposedly got a repair quote for turbo replacement of $7k he was gonna be ripped off for an extra $5k
@@pathunter7003 It sounds like the guy didn't want to do the job, so he priced it up. If the customer was willing to pay, he would have farmed it out. 😯
@@andyd5492 that could be he case that he didn’t want to do the job, $7k is ridiculous.
@@pathunter7003 doubtful.
He's know the mechanic for decades.
Also, the part alone for my wife's Ford Escape was $1200, not counting labor, so $7000 for two turbos on an F-150 is conceivable.
@@GKMess42 the only conceivable part that his “trusted “ , which he didn’t mention that he knew him for decades, was going to rip him off if charging $7000 for turbos
Thanks for doing this episode. I'm still the original owner of a 2011 F150 FX4 SuperCrew (door plate reads production Feb 2011) with 118,000 miles. It's been the best engine I've ever owned in a truck. I've pulled up mountain passes near Durango with 10,000 pounds in a trailer and accelerated easily during the climb. The only engine issues I've had were 1) a bad fuel incident requiring new spark plugs and injectors, 2) hoses that started to leak after about 115k miles, and 3) the turbo charger intercooler / exchanger being oversized by design. That last quirk was a strange thing to diagnose and only affected those of us in Texas and similar states where we can get a huge swing in temperature in a humid air mass during a "norther" cold front. The exchanger would over-cool the saturated air, and moisture would drop out, stalling the engine -- not great if you are trying to pass or enter a highway at speed. The solution was to cover the exchanger partially with a piece of plastic Ford designed. Haven't had a problem for the 10 years after the fix was installed. I had not heard of the "cam phaser" issue you mentioned, but I suppose that can happen to many older / higher mileage cars. The turbos lasting only to 150,000 miles is also news to me. I am approaching that mark in about 30k and it may be prudent to trade for a new model. But with the good track record I've had with this unit, I may try my luck, considering new F150s can reach $75k modestly equipped!
I've owned a 2.7l and 3.5l it towed well until they needed repairs early I'll stay with the 5.0l have had better luck.
Unfortunately the 5.0 isn't exactly a sure thing either.
@@0HOON0 the 5.0 is the best motor in ford's line up.
@@billw8476the 5.0 burns oil. The 2.7 ecoboost is battle tested made of CGI by the power stroke team.
@@billw8476Yep you got it brother
@@billw8476nope the 2.7 is the best built hands down
Got a 2014 love it it has 130 thousand on it and shes great .
I had a 12 5.0 didn’t make 100,000 miles before cam journal failure. Had a 14 3.5 ecoboost traded it with a little over 150,000 miles on it never any issues. Pulled really well.
Funny cause my 2011 Ford F150 with a 5.0L Coyote V8 in it with 161,000 miles on it is still going strong.
@@CJColvin I have buddies with the 5.0 and 3.5 ecoboost with 250-350,000 miles. changed spark plugs and a water pump and collent hoses. I bought mine used and they either used the wrong oil or didn’t change it as often as they should have.
@@CJColvin165k on my 14F150 5.0 still strong
@@natesv04 Awesome brother
Like ALL things, the Ecoboost is all about preventive and consistent maintenance.
Tons of owners with 100sk's of miles, reporting satisfaction.
It all boils down to this:
Oil catch can
Full synthetic
Occasional Seafoam or Marvel cleanse
Iridium plugs
Regular and preventive oil changes and maintenance.
2019 King Ranch owner, super happy.
More 12 gen Ford trucks Videos, TFLnow is killing it !!!
My 2011 f150 ecoboost has 260,000 miles. It’s been a great truck. Had some issues with transmission and recently had to spend about $1,500 on repairs.
Bought it brand new in 2011.
You can watch several episodes of this engine, going through torture test hosted by Mike Rowe. I got my first 3.5 in a 2015 XLT. 90,000 miles and 0 issues. Now 2021 3.5 STX with FX4 package. Intake,cat-back and tune on both. Beating sports cars with a truck is a blast. Ford tough for sure.
Purchased my Lariat 2WD Ecoboost in June 2011. Just sold it last year with 210 000 miles. No issues with engine except changing a few coils and 2 sets of spark plugs. I changed the oil every 4000 miles. The latter is a must to prevent cam phaser and timing chain issues as well as protecting the turbos.
Can you explain how changing the oil affects a cam phaser and timing chain?
@@kdcarver dirty oil clogs the passages and end up not passing oil and camphasers don’t move anymore then break
@@Contreras-z4e thanks. Glad Im a stickler for keeping to oil change schedules.
Have 160k of hard miles on my 2013 3.5 F-150. I run a landscaping company, and the little truck has to pinch hit with my tandem axel dump trailer and equipment hauler on occasion and has really impressed myself and my foreman who have towed with it. I live on the continental divide in Montana at over a mile in elevation, this little engine definitely outperforms my 3/4 ton gas v=8 trucks towing here in the mountains, wish Ford would use this engine or ideally a larger I-6 Ecoboost(style direct injection) engine in their Superduty line.
That’s a good idea. I really like the idea of a TT I6 like the Hurricane. That architecture would work great in a 1 ton. You’ve got the space (Cummins I6 swaps have proven that) and the 7 main bears of the I6 would make quite durable. Only thing is, I’m not sure they want durability as it would cut out their lucrative after warranty repairs. Ecoboost V6 is perfect for them. Makes it all the way to the end of the warranty and then becomes Ecoboom.
@@failranch9542 Not sure what makes you think ecoboost don't last. Has not been my experience. Have blown up more 5.7 Hemi's than anything else honestly.
I drove 3 of the 2011 F150. Two were 3.5 ecoboosts and 1 was a 5.0. I owned one of the ecoboosts and the other 2 were work trucks. Never really had major problems. The 5.0 got better mileage quite easily.
On my second F150 with 2.7 Ecoboost, it’ll run , but I’m 61 so I don’t dog em, trade at around 100k, not saying it’s the best engine, but my 17 was flawless and my 23 has not missed a step, I’m 100% a 5k oil change man and air filter every 20k and fresh transmission fluid and filter at 50k. Tow a 6k camper 6 or 7 times a year. I can get solid 21 mpg around town and nearly 24 mpg on the highway maybe 12 towing, lil better if it’s flat, like 14 and again I don’t rush her at all. Personally love the lil V6 plenty of torque when you need it. I also realize it ain’t a F250 or 2,500, I was fine with a Tacoma most the time, but needed a lil more towing ability, comfort and room, I’d have never thought this thing would get better MPG’s, but it does. Perfect old man’s truck and it could get a young man in trouble. It rarely ever climbs above 2,500 rpm never seems stressed, drove a 5.0 and it sounded great, but it was a screamer constantly above 4 grand and didn’t feel much stronger to me, the sound was nice though.
I just bought a 2011 F150 with the Ecoboost, with 219000km on it. Seems good so far. I also have 2011 F250 Super Duty 6.7L as well. Have had it for 4 years now. Use the diesel to pull trailers and a 5th wheel camper. Excellent trailer puller. I would like to see more on these truck.
Ford got some awesome trucks is all I say. They beating the competition hands down. I personally own a 2.7 ecoboost in a 2023 STX and love it. Has plenty for what i would do with it.
I’m no brand loyalist. I’ve owned just about every brand because I love cars and do tons of research on them. I researched for the perfect half ton for months and I always came back to the 3.5 Ecoboost. Not many half tons can offer a crew cab, 6’5” bed, and 11,000 lbs towing capacity. In 2008, those numbers were only seen in 3/4 and 1 ton trucks.
my 2010 5.4l v-8 had to have cam phasers replaced also!! $3800, not sure why ford cant fix the cam phaser issues ON ALL MOTORS. but besides that, this trucks has been AWESOME!! i think i have ATLEAST 6-10 more years out of this truck.( i take care of my truck). if i get 20 years out of a vehicle i am happy. BUT I WILL ALWAYS BUY A V-8!!
How often did you change your oil?
Cam phasers (esp. the earlier models) have been problematic for manufacturers across the board, yes, including Toyota. Easily researched online.
$3800 seems like a lot for Cam phasers
My original owner ‘09 is still going without cam phaser replacement and runs nice and quiet. Like you, I think I will get many more years out of it now however it’s relegated to 3rd vehicle status to be used only when I need a truck. Today I don’t have faith in new vehicles to be any better than a reliable older one so if it’s not broke don’t fix it applies for me.
@@volvo09 every 3500 to 4000 miles with semi synthetic.
I had a 2014 f150 ecoboost that I drove for 10 years before selling it to my dad. Only thing I had to change outside of regular maintenance was an oxygen sensor at 90k miles. Currently own a 2022 I have not had any issues in almost 2 years, hopefully it lasts as long as my 2014
My dad has a 13 4 door 3.5 ecoboost f150 has 190k on it now after hundreds of tons of gravel hauling and family traveling still has original turbos and 8 original coil packs 2 of them was replaced at 30k miles 3 sets of spark plugs and not so frequent oil changes has went over the oil change interval several times and just now started getting the timing chain rattle at start up still runs fine and pulls fine never had valves cleaned either I now have a 23 f150 3.5 to see how well the new ones go
I miss EVGA cards, they were so good :C
I love my V6 Turbo Ecoboost!
My 2012 4x2 Ecoboost has been doing great. I'm the only owner and have just 10k fewer miles than TFL's example. The only repairs I've had to make have been one front hub replaced 5 years ago and a new set of ignition coils earlier this year. The rest has been oil changes, spark plugs, and tires.
Nostalgic interior. I had a 2013. But I had one of the most awesome and underrated engines - the 3.7 naturally aspirated V6. Wasn't fast and fancy like the other ones, but that thing was so damn reliable. One of the most solid motors Ford's ever made. I wish they would bring back the naturally aspirated V6 in their SUVs. The new Ecoboosts don't get any better gas mileage and are less reliable than their bulletproof NA counterparts.
Yeah man, there’s no need for an Explorer to be turbocharged. All it does is make the Costco dads drive like maniacs. The 3.7 V6 in your F-150 probably had more power and capability than the 4.6 V8.
@@miniaddict4534Our 2017 explorer is na, the 3.5 duratec, basically the same engine as this guy's f-150. Insanely reliable. Ecoboost reliability seems decent, but Ford knocks it out of the park when it comes to na reliability.
Still happy I got a 5.0 Coyote in my 2014 F-150. Get 17mpg around town 20 on long highway trips at 72-75 mph. Look up Ford Tech Makuloco for his comparison of long term EcoBoost vs V8.
What octane fuel do you use?
@@ThatGratefulGuy 87 octane
@TheBillp603 that's great! I'd be happy with those numbers, too.
I have a 2014 f-150 4x4 with the 5.0 (STX). I must have a bit heavier foot than you. Also my leveling kit probably doesn't help my fuel economy.
Mine is also a supercab, not a super crew with 3.55 rear end, and most of my driving is in New England sea level to 1,000' elevation
Most mechanics today. Prefer the ecoboost over 230000 on my 2012 going strong my dad bought a 2017 5.0 needed a new motor at 40000 miles now he has a 3,5
my 2011 silverado has 246k miles and has had no major repairs done to it. no cam issues, no afm issues (tuned out) and the 6 speed auto is doing great for the age. i also get 16-18 mpg.
My 2011 Silverado burned oil like a middle eastern oil baron, gum up on cylinder 7, possible rear main oil leak and the tranny would act very strange sometimes. I was the second owner after 150k miles worked with the guy he’s a boat mechanic and a veteran airplane mechanic so I figured he kept up with maintenance but I guess not lol.
Seems relevant.
I might have gotten lucky with my trucks reliability, but I just take care of it.
@@bendino9016 jealous of the 6 speed. my poor 4l60e has gone 190k without having the fluid changed. Thing is tired.
No body cares we are discussing ecoboost chevy suck
I have a 2011 F150 ecoboost, I purchased it brand new, and have 176k miles on it. Engine is all original, never been touched, still runs great.
I have almost this exact truck, got KO2’s also, with 249,300 miles and I get 17.2 mpg. I don’t have phaser issues and haven’t had to replace any turbos. If you replace the spark plugs, gap them to .32, and replace the plug boots, it runs like a brand new engine.
Other than normal maintenance, I’ve replaced the fan speed resistor 3 times, the transmission range sensor, the 4wd shift motor, and an o2 sensor.
It’s really a great truck if you take care of it.
My 13 5.0 supercrew has been a great worktruck
Waterpump, trans sensor,1 wheel bearing . My blend door makes a noise but 3yrs later I put up with it.
200,000kms
I remember looking for an small SUV for my wife. Ford's first ecoboost Escape was one of the considerations. (Along with a RAV4.) I almost got the Escape, but then, fires! Ecoboost failure, leaks. So, went with the RAV4. Later, in 2013 I was looking for a truck. Settled on an F150 STX 4X4, but never wanted anything to do with the ecoboost V6. Chose the 5.0 liter V8 Coyote engine. Quite happy with that choice. I did sell the truck (trade in) back in 2020 and got another F150 with 5.0 liter (XLT with most of the geegaws available, tow package and 2 wheel drive.) Quite happy with it. Don't think I will ever get an ecoboost V6. If anything, I might have a supercharger installed on my 5.0, tuned for mileage and a small HP boost with torque boost. But, it is not really needed. The Coyote engine does quite well.
The eco escape engine is nothing like what is in the f150, totally different.
Right on! I have a 2011 with 238,000 miles. I have yet to do any major engine or transmission work.
When the 3.5 Ecoboost's first came out I was on the freeway. One passed me like lightning. I'd never seen such a quick truck. With all the maddening technology on the newer ones like all makes I can't help but think the reliability will be as good starting with the stall/start crap.
My 2013 ecoboost has been really solid.
I have a 2013 Ecoboost and am from Maryland as well. I'm pushing 300,000 miles on mine.
160k on my 15 f150 3.5 eco with original turbos, timing components,and transmission. Minor issues with collant fittings on turbos leaking 2k, vacuum pump replacement that was leaking but so far i still love my truck and very happy hows its holding up
I have a 2011 with 205k. Great truck. Did just have to replace the PCM. Random failure I’m sure. Also have repaired some oil lines on the turbos. Great engine and great power. Ford was on the right path and likely “ahead of their time”
466318 miles on my 2011 3.5 engine has never been apart ever!!!! Still have the bad cam phasers but she runs everyday. Chevy my whole life till I bought this truck and I love it never going back
I owned a 2013 F-150 Platinum with the tow package and long bed. Was a great truck and I regret that I sold it.
These types of videos are great. Love seeing how people's older trucks have held up. Obviously how a person maintains their vehicle is a major factor, but good information overall.
I have a 2018 and it took me a few weeks to get used to the power. 375hp and 470ft lbs It will surprise you. It just wants to spool up and go any time you touch the pedal. It makes a slight rattle on start up. maybe half a second, I will never fix it if the engine light dosent go on. for why? its just oil moving into the top of the engine. A rust free truck with the power to get out of the way of anything on the road if I need to, it gets better gas mileage than my old mid size suv ford edge. I love it. It puts a smile on my face everyday before I even unlock it. It is the most under rated power plant on the road.
Bought a 2013 in 2022 with 104K miles. It's currently at 145K right now and within 41K miles, I've had $19,000 in mechanical repairs done. Failing turbos and intercooler to the timing chain and cam phasers needing replaced and leaking exhaust manifolds, brake booster, throttle body just to name a few things. Thank God for extended warranties. With all that taken care of, it's a comfortable truck to drive with plenty of power to do what I need it to do.
Pretty cool that you were able to get an extended warranty on a nine year old truck
@@bobcoats2708 I agree. Seems like most used car lots in my area offer that when purchasing a vehicle and it ties into the loan. Definitely a must on any truck since anything can happen and repairs aren't cheap! Lol
That truck is living its best life. Working and playing for a living. Go Blue!!!
I was sold on the concept back in 2011. I wanted to love it. I ran out an bought one in November 2011. The power was amazing because the dealerships ordered them with 3.73 gears because it had a V6. It was crazy fast with that gearing. Unfortunately it has a misfire under light load that they could never figure out. I filed a lemon law claim, accepted a settlement, and traded it in at the 3 year mark, unfixed. I still wanted to love the concept and bought a 2014 F150 with the EcoBoost. That truck had a timing chain tensioner go bad at 28,000 miles along with dropping a turbo (while I was on vacation 800 miles away from home). Like I said, I wanted to love it, but it wouldn't let me. I have now sworn off small displacement turbo charged engines. I just bought a Titan because it has an (almost) traditional V8. I looked for a deal on a 20 or 21 Tundra, but apparently everybody else wants those trucks as well and the prices were completely unreasonable.
From what I've seen, most issues weren't solved till only a few years ago. They were hit and miss for people. I still love the concept and have driven a 2.7 before. But, most people I know either have electrical gremlins or turbo failure.
Most people love there ecoboost and many get on here and talk shit when they know nothing sure they had a few bugs but my 2012 had 230000 on it and it was a great truck maintenance is the key
I owned a 2018 stx and on long trips i was getting 29.9 mpg i own a 2021 f150 sport love the technology and how i get my navigation on my guages and on long trips going 70 on eco mode the most i have gotten was 35 mpg
I have a 2013 f150 3.5 ecoboost and it still runs great with 213k miles. Great gas mileage and towing
I have a 2013 Ecoboost F-150 with the Max Tow package and had it since new. I've had cam phasers replaced once, turbo coolant lines replaces twice. I tow a travel trailer from spring through fall and the truck still runs strong and the is still in good shape so I'm going to keep it until she gets too tired and expensive to maintain.
I have a 2011 Ford Crown Vic and get 27 MPG, on the Highway driving from TX to MX and back. 155k mile on it and runs ... Like a champ
I own a 2014 3.5L ecoboost with 96k. Just recently put a catch can on(wish i knew about these sooner) and it's been running great. At 75K, i changed the spark plugs, transmission fluid, coolant, diffs etc. I also have been changing the oil every 3,500k using Pennzoil Ultra plat. or Valvoline HM Max Life. No hauling or towing...I baby my truck, so let's hope for another 96k+. But of course, gotta know the starter, alternator and water pump will go in the time span. Fingers crossed on the cams.
I know this may sound weird, but after looking at Andre’s earlobe with that crease, that could be a sign of early heart disease it’s called “Frank’s sign” look it up. Just to let you know keep an eye on that. I like your videos
Thanks for making people aware of this ! Glad I don’t have it, at least not yet …
What part of the video?
Wive’s tale.
@@bryanbrowning5746 not according to the medical literature I read after seeing this post. Google NIH franks sign
159k miles on my 2012 and I've gotten a quote of $5500 from the dealer for both turbos as well as the turbo coolant and oil lines. The last two years we've towed a 5000lb camper 15k miles. On a cold start there is a raspy high pitched whine or squall from something on the passenger side turbo for about 5 seconds but then it goes away. It may be a bad bearing on the impeller shaft or poor lubrication but I am not certain.
My Mom has a 2013 Supercab 3.5 4x4. Original owner. It’s been a perfect truck.
I currently have this generation as a 2012 5.0 and love it! However, mine has a factory quirk where even though it's a 5.0 they still put the license plate off to the side on accident. They didn't even put the center mount in. So I leave it cause it's a cool little quirk that Ford owners know lol
I 've got a 2018 with only 48,000 miles, I've been hearing the cam phaser noise on start up for the last 6 months or so.
2014 F150 4x4 with 5.0. 203,000 miles original transmission.
Had to replace pullies and water pump a few times. Torque converter went out but transmission is still smooth. Gonna ride it out!
I had a 2014 FX4 EB with the same cab configuration as that one. I absolutely loved it.
My dad has a 2012 f150 ecoboost with around 250,000 miles. Engine itself is pretty reliable besides some cam phaser noise at cold start. The turbos and water pump had to be replaced at 150,000 miles and now the new turbos have coolant leaking from them
I have an 02 tundra 4x4 with 212k. Ive had it since 2019 with 140k. Only drivetrain work done is timing belt water pump and valve cover gaskets and radiator at 200k. Might sound like alot but it was about 2k spent for 200k miles. I get around 15 mpg. I change the oil every 5k and drive it.
I have thought avout getting an ecoboost for gas mileage but in my budget would need to get one with about 100k miles. I'm afraid maintenance that would he needed on one would offset any money saved on the small mpg bump.
i have a 2011 f150 lariat.. but the 5.0 v8. 240k later still a beast
Awesome brother, I have a 2011 Ford F150 with a 5.0L Coyote V8 in it with 161,000 miles on it and still going strong and its a beast and it sounds like a beast with the Borla ATAK exhaust on it as well.
@@CJColvin even back then they were overpriced junk
@pathunter7003 The EcoBoost ones totally agree but the 5.0L ones (as well as the 6.2L ones) not so much.
I have a 2015 2.7l ecobeast f150 it has 153,000 miles on it.
I bought a 2011 3.5l new, in 2011. The intercooler you showed was stock, but I went in for a recall one time and a black plastic cover was put over a portion of the intercooler. The mech said it was because the intercooler was cooling the air too much and sometimes water dropped out. I now have a 2021 but it doesn't have the black plastic cover over the intercooler. I guess they built a smaller one???
I also lost the blue color on the oval Ford emblem on the tailgate.
I sold the 2011 after 10 years with no breakdowns. I only changed the brakes, belt, oil and filters and did general routine preventative maintenance.
I sold to my Daughter & SIL my ‘11 F-150, XLT CrewCab w/3.5L twin turbo having 200k miles & They’re very happy w/it… He’s a professional mechanic & completed his own unaccompanied inspection(s) (@ my insistence) making the purchase in Jan ‘24…
He expects this vehicle has another 100k-150k miles in it…
Mac😎👍
I had a 2018 F150, 3.5 twin turbo.
At 53,000 the cam phasers started rattling! Even though it was still under warranty, the inconveniences of not having transport for weeks was enough to make me sell it.
I bought a 2021 F150 V8, so far all is well with it.
If Ford have had the cam problem all these years and haven’t done anything to fix it, tells me that the eco boost is a bad idea.
Stick to naturally aspirated if you can’t solve the problems that come with stretching the performance in a smaller engine.
Problem is the 5.0 has the same common issue with phasers.
@@kingdaniel3519 Funny cause my 2011 Ford F150 with a 5.0L Coyote V8 in it has 161,000 miles on it and still going strong with no rattle cam phasers what's so ever?
@@kingdaniel3519 i have a 2019 Mustang GT 5.0 never had a issue with cam phasers
Ford did fix it in late 2013 intill they redesigned it for the gen 2 in 2017 . At this time they switched to two timings chains one for each head . My 2020 had them replaced and 45000 miles later I couldn’t be happier only bad idea is not fixing your 3.5
I have 230k on my first gen eco and have had my fair share of issues but it still runs great.
Great video. Maybe you could do a few more with the older trucks and how reliable they are.
I have a 14’ FX4 with the 3.5, incredible truck
My dads 2004 4.6L v8 just came out of retirement. Glad he had an extended warranty on powertrain used it one time on engine and trans. So many mechanics hate ecoboosts but i cannot comment on them
I have a completely stock 2012 (minus the SuperChips canned tune) and other than needing a wheel bearing and caliper it hasn't given me problems in the 220k miles Ive had it. Kinda glad I took the risk. His doesn't have the locking rear diff like mine does.
Still as pretty as new. Nice truck with a smart layout.
I have the 3.5 it has been great when working properly. The cost to maintain is very frustrating and extremely costly for seemingly simple repairs. The quick connect turbo coolant lines to turbos were a ton of money to fix. Exhaust manifold issues still a problem, oil leaks all over the place. I went through spark plugs fast and the oil changes must be done at minimum every 5k. Next truck I'm going back to v8 if possible.
my 2011 3.7 v6 has 250k on it and runs like a champ. just some simple repairs like water pump and little things. great truck.
My brother just traded in a 2011 3.5 Ecoboost for a 2022 3.5 Ecoboost. 220,000 miles with the original engine and trans. He really loved that truck, he only got rid of it after putting in $8,000 into it because of the custody agreement has him driving a minimum of an hour for each way for work and each way for his kids plus her enrolling them in sports. So it was worth it getting a new truck. The dealership listed his truck for $7000.
Had this truck. Timing chain started rattling at 60k, had to have it replaced twice, first install job went bad. Would love to somehow know what % of the 3.5s had this issue. Great engine when it runs.
I like seeing videos of how the first year of a new design (before they work out the kinks) holds up over time; really shows what brands are less risky and what brands to always wait for the second year.
I bought a 2013 f150 about a year and half ago and had to put an engine in it not even 5k miles after buying it so I know the feeling of being kinda “stuck” with that truck but I love the power it has it has a pretty decent sound with an intake and the 4 inch exhaust on it and seeing how complicated brand new stuff is it makes my truck seem simple even though it’s incredibly complex itself all in all I’m happy with it id still buy an ecoboost again when the time comes which hopefully is a long time from now
What job do you have and how much money do you make to afford that EcoBoost F150? Also will it outlast the 5.7L I-Force V8 in the 07-21 Toyota Tundra?
@@CJColvin there’s not many engines around that’ll outlast a Toyota 5.7 and that’s fine but the Toyota 5.7 won’t out last my 7.3 powerstroke
Great truck!! I had an F-150 for a while with the ecoboost and the only issue I had was the exhaust manifold warping and breaking a stud. Supposedly Ford fixed the cam phasers the issue is that they are working through the supply of the old ones until they start with the new ones. That’s the rumor anyway.
I have a 2-door Bronco FE with the 2.7. It has plenty of grunt considering the weight. In Eco mode I see mpg in the mid to upper 20s. Not bad on 35s. Only have 33k miles, but reliable so far on the trails.
You don't need to hold the key in the start position on the F150. Just turn it and let it go. The truck will start without the need to hold the key. Just a little trick. My 2013 3.5L has 178K on it and the only issue I've had is the "Door Ajar" warning for the rear passenger door, and I've got to replace a leaking vacuum pump on it. I'm the 3rd owner of the truck and it's been well maintained and mostly highway miles on it. It still impresses me with the pickup and hauling/towing ability, and the fuel economy is still great as well. (I made a video on replacing that wiring harness on the rear passenger door for those who like to DIY their repair work).
2015 3.5 supercrew been good to me bought it with 18k miles now at 88k miles only problem i had so far was a bad cat got it replaced free at ford run full syntethic every 3500 miles no rattles aboit to do spark plugs and transmission hope to get it to 150k with no issues before i even think about selling
Keep full synthetic oil changed at 5K or less intervals and these last a good long while, turbos included. I have certainly enjoyed my Ecoboost engines, I have had the 3.5, 2.7, and a 2.3 in a Ranger.
I have a 2015 w/ 3.5 4x4 sport and I definitely love it I change my oil every 3500 miles