being a physiotherapist myself , I have been really struggling with a pain at the front of my right shoulder which got me worried for over a yea now . I was always thinking that is was an unstable shoulder until I came across this video . The '' pulling hands apart'' acromioclavicular joint test just cleared things for me . Mr. Schrupp and Mr.Hieneck I don't know if you know that , but you are literally helping al kinds of people . I personally believe that every physiotherapist must watch your videos . Many thanks to you , Seniors ( I cannot just call you ''guys'' ) . Please keep sharing you knowledge with us . From The Kingdom of Saudia Arabia , Peace .
I wanted to let you know that after going to a chiropractor for a dozen times and two different physiotherapists, these exercises are the ones that helped me the most. It has been 6 months without shoulder pain now. Thanks!
Bob & Brad I'd like to thank you guys for your advice on how to fix shoulder pain, I've been trying to get back into a good sleep routine, but my shoulder was giving me a terrible time, so something as simple as putting a pillow under my ribcage to change the load point has made all the difference, so very much appreciated thanks guys
You guys are amazing!after suffering for five year with arm and neck pain, I've been working on for 4 days and I finally got some relief thanks to you guys.😘
The doc wanted to operate a long time ago, but I wanted to try to exercise it out. I got better, and I got older, and I got worse, and re injured it. In comes Bob and Brad. Ice, posture, tendon massage, and for me, staying off the phone, and the lap top helps... etc, all the exercising tips... so good. Thank you so much. Recently, I actually thought I'd have to have surgery, but with your help, and if I stick with this, I might be ok. So much better. Thank you so much.
I am a Minnesotan living in Germany and stumbled onto these guys....within seconds I KNEW they were from my homeland! Go Bob And Brad! Love your info, love your accent, and love that purple football behind you!
Well, I fail the rotator cuff ones and number 8 is exactly as you describe with the nerve. Once it clears and the arm is up it feels fine. It doesn't help that to do all of these I have to lift my left arm with my right one due to the extreme pain. I tore my rotator cuff back in the 90s surfing and this happened while surfing and then was worsened by a bad fall while hiking. The motion needed for paddling my surfboard is impossible right now. My shoulder got suddenly compressed while attempting to pop up on one wave & the pain was intense. In the weeks leading up to that, I was having constant elbow pain and numbness/tingling down through my fingertips. Most likely you two won't ever see this comment but, you two are great. Watching your videos helped me through my recovery from having both hips replaced back in 2018. I did my own PT and did just fine. While I may never be where I was 10 years ago I'm doing quite well considering. I'm 60 by the way and I do some pretty difficult hikes.
I was worried I messed up my rotator cuff for a good week. Got checked out and everything is okay. I just need to stop lifting so heavy and focus more on lighter weight with higher reps.
These guys it healed my shoulder! Been suffering for months and months and tried one of the recommendations of just hanging from a bar. I heard a bone snap in my upper arm next to my shoulder and low and behold my pain was almost completely gone within the hour and still holding five hours later! Thanks guys!
7:06 Brad had a good point. You may be "positive" on some of these tests and it may not be a huge problem. Just something to keep an eye on. Thanks Brad! I think he was trying to get a point across but Bob started talking to soon haha.
i am so glad you stated this as it frustrated me that i wasnt able to get both professionals opinions because one was quick to jump to a conclusion lmao at these sorta person to person interactions due to the silly underlying issue(s) if it was him trying to seem more correct then brad even though its clearly a duo channel one bigger head will tend to be more in the bob direction of handling these situation in that particular way..no more disecting this moment honestly quite entertainingly ridiculous to rewatch i was just shaking my head at that immediate friendly fire shot bob gave to the trusted brad
I love that these videos empower people in their own body again, and not only depend on experts. Testing your body yourself is so natural. I also bought the Bob & Brad Mini Massage gun, and everyone who had it against their body really liked it.
I'm really impressed that Bob & Brad included Fibromyalgia in 2017. It took me going through a few doctors and finally a rheumatologist to get diagnosed. There are still some doctors today who are not convinced that it's a real condition. I had one tell me that Fibromyalgia is something you end up diagnosing after eliminating everything else. No! There are very specific symptoms. It really takes a Rheumatologist to do the specific tests to make a proper diagnosis.
@bina nocht She did many tests on all sorts of levels of things in my blood and body. I couldn't tell you specifically as I don't understand most of them. Very medically technical. Things like hormones, lipids, hemoglobin... a very long list. What I remember is that there were things present that only show up with Fibromyalgia and nothing else.
@bina nocht Actually there are many studies being done and there are doctors who believe that not only is Fybromyalgia a real condition but that it has a specific cause. That cause being a neurological disconnect between the brain and body in the pain receptors and the interpretation / misinterpretation of pain. The medication I'm on that helps considerably, rewires the brain a bit in this area.
Subscribed. Super delivery, a wealth of information, and none of the regular scare tactics like, "If you turn your shoulder this way, it could be caused by your bones melting and you should see a doctor today before you collapse!" Thank you very much for the vast amount of information you provide in a meaningful way.
Thank you guys, i recently injured my shoulder but couldn't figure out what joint was causing the pain ... But your test helped a lot! It was the AC joint.
You guys appeared in my feed at just at the right time. Not only have I been worried about a hip problem, but just last week, I tweaked my shoulder somehow. Now, I'm trying all the exercises and stretches on your segments. Love, love, love you guys. Thanks a bunch. If my hip doesn't react to some of the exercises, I will go see my Dr.
Thanks guys! I’m a 54 year old Crossfitter (uh-oh!) and I’ve been doing a lot of virtual body weight CrossFit classes. I cannot move my arm away from my body, but this video makes me believe that I have tendinitis, as the most pain is felt on the anterior arm at the deltoid muscle and bursa site. I have the painful arc and it hurts when I place my hand on opposite shoulder and then lift the elbow. Sitting against a wall, I cannot place my arm at a 90 degree angle and forget getting the elbow and even knuckles of my hand to the wall to do a simple raise. So much pain! For now I’m treating the arm as if it’s broken during workouts and only doing lower body work. I don’t think it’s a SLAP tear or arthritis.
Thank you so much! I watch your channel every day and recommend it to my friends and family. You guys provide such a valuable public service! Keep up the great work!
Your video really helped me recognize that the source of my shoulder pain is AC joint. Now I have a better idea of what I'm dealing with. Very helpful-thanks!!!
Jay I’m fairly certain that’s my problem, but I can’t start working out because the pain just gets worse. In fact, it all began when I started doing pull ups to strengthen my shoulders.
@@thegoldenllama8787 omg yes. It's hard.. my knees hurt when I walk so sometimes I can't walk, but at the same time I have to walk for my knees to get stronger. Like what do you want from me knees 🤦🏻♀️
@@thegoldenllama8787 this is probably from pulling when your shoulders aren’t engaged I used to have the problem as well but when I started practicing scapular pulls it went away
I had an Automobile accident 2003. My ball joint popped out of my arm down to elbow bone. (This was such a painful moment) went to Hospital immediately, next to Orthopedic Doctor, took X-RAYS. I was told by my Doctor it was a clean break. I iced my Arm everytime. I would freeze the Pain. I would slowly start a weight exercise. It was painful at times. Then I would ice again. Now, I just have to get this bone to attach to my lower bone. I will see my Orthopedic Doctor again. Thank you for such an informative viewing.
God Bless You guys for making this video! I learned more in the short video about shoulder pain than I did in 30 yrs of Acute care nursing! Great explanation without the "God Complex" of most Drs. Thanks so much.
Thank you very much guys I appreciate you all taking the time to explain all of this and help me very much I know now what is wrong with my shoulder and thanks again
You know what's funny? I was searching the internet, trying out some tests (most of which I've done wrong, but the painful arc I actually did correctly and it hurt a little), then I've done the painful arc with this video and my shoulfer actually almost didn't hurt. Thank you for this video! I'm a medical student, but we cover traumatology and orthopedia reeeeeally lightly, and it's really frustrating to not be able to understand basic things. And it's hard to self-study when you don't have visuals.
Thank you all I’ve been having some serious shoulder issues for around a year now. I’m a Millwright who carries a lot of tools etc daily. Thank you I’m not crazy and thinking it’s just age and stubbornness on my part
Excellent and informative presentation with a splash of humor. Very engaging personalities and great interaction. Even fun to watch if you're not having shoulder issues.
A++ for you both! This really helped narrow down my issue. I think the relief of just knowing what my issue is, brought my pain level down, and got me focused on relevant solutions. Pinched nerve test (the 'ridiculous test', as you jokingly called it) rang my 'bell' 100% on my pain side, and 50% on the other arm side. So I did some research and after previously trying acupuncture, lidocaine patches, hot pads, cold pads, pain killers and just about EVERYTHING else, (nothing was really working) I found some info on Capsaicin hot patch for 'calming down' the nerves.(I was anxiously thinking I would need some serious surgery, the pain has been 'nerve racking', pun intended.) I had the patch on for less than 5 min and had to take it off, as I was feeling a very hot, almost burning sensation that I was warned about. Ironically, after 10 minutes of running coldish water over my shoulder in the shower, (and thinking this was another wast of time), my pain level went from a 4/5 day marathon (with VERY little sleep, and cranky like a wounded Bull), of 8-9/10 down to a 1-2/10! It seems that my body reaction to the Capsaicin may have 'neutralized' my nerve pain? No idea, but like magic, it worked!! Albeit, the reaction made it much worse for about 10 min till I cooled off the burning pain with a cold shower, the aftermath, somehow made the pain drop down almost immediately. I was totally not expecting this, and I am still in a bit of disbelief, but relief has finally arrived. I will cut down the 5x7 patch size in half next time, and be quicker to take it off as soon as I feel the burning sensation, which can cause actually burns to some whom are allergic, according to what I have read. Somewhere a surgeon just shed a tear. And my Bull headedness paid off really thanks to you guys! Godspeed my brothers and keep up the great work. Thank you.
Just saw my chiropractor, he says I have tendonitis. I couldn't lift my shoulder and it radiates down to my upper arm and my hands. I've had bursitis in the past but now I need regular adjustments in my neck. It's hard to exercise and I can't lift heavy objects because of a back and neck injury. I'm glad I came across this video.
Excellent video. Have you ever heard of these symptoms? Right shoulder feels like it's dislocating (sever pain 10/10) occasionally when sneezing, yawning, and just standing. I have no symptoms of any of the tests you demonstrate in your video.I can swim, play tennis etc - no problem. I have learnt when the first twinge occurs to sit down, lean back and apply pressure to the front of my right shoulder with my left hand.
I’m in the same boat! Both shoulders do it (right is much worse), but my right shoulder sometimes affects my elbow and wrist horribly. Any news on what you’re going through? My guess is instability.
HIBob&Brad I just want to thank youvery much for your insite on how to fix shoulder pain it really helps me a lot you guys are the best after doing all your exercises I have a great relief may God bless you both thanks again
So you say , “ nerve pain is some of the worst pain you’re gonna have” ... well shit that’s the best news I herd all year ! So your saying there not much that can hurt worse than this..... thank god
Thx guys. My shoulder is double jointed and I think the slight pain is from moving around. When I was a kid I could push down the socket and put my finger under the bone that goes across the top shoulder area
These guys are good. I love how they get into detail that way it's easier for me (or the other viewers) to pinpoint the problem. Must say that the both of them can sure as hell fancy a knot, along with their sharp ties. Really helped me out, thank you
This was actually a huge help thanks guys. I didn't believe there was actual useful and professional content on here anymore. Genuinely subscribing. I have the first one. Pinched shoulder nerve. Pain in left shoulder area when head is turned to my right and pressed down there is definitive pain even before pressing down on my head. Can feel the stiffness and mild pain doing it while turning my head to my left but comparatively nothing. Usual pain was seemingly at random like I could move my arm fine most of the time then from nowhere extreme pain. Seems to be when I moved my torso for mild pain and both torso and arm simultaneously for the good stuff. No numbness or tingling in either hand, I'd just like to say how surprisingly painful this is. I've suffered with gallstones for 20 years and after the first time and your scared you can actually tank through it. With this I've not had more than 5 hours sleep for the best part of a week now even with throwing two OTC co-codamol in me at night. I wake up in agony. I cry out in pain when I move. A few paracetamol (Tylenol) eases it up fine for the day though. As far as I'm aware as to the cause is I did it in my sleep... As stupid as that downs I went to bed fine woke up in pain the next day. Woke up the next day lying on my side while attempting to drive my shoulder point first into the bed as hard as I could in my sleep. Which as you can imagine was equal parts confusing and extremely painful. Hoping this eases up on it's own. It's not exactly the right time to be bothering the NHS.
I started getting pain in my shoulder after a month of doing 20 min home exercise routine. My shoulder cracks when moving it in awkward positions now and it gives me a sharp pain when I'm resting on my elbows. I can simulate this pain by trying to reach at the top portion of my back as in trying to scrum my back with the back of my fist facing my back and pushing it up. My left hand can be pushed higher up but the right hand starts feeling uncomfortable half way through, it used to be worse a month ago but now its a lil bit less severe lol
i there, i'm a personal trainer, i already knew the hawkins test, neer test and yocum test, but i really need the name of the others test so i can study about them so for i can apply them on my patients if it's need.. thanks for your work and your response! Ricardo
I give a free hint here which i've discovered myself: you can use all these movements these guys have just shown to stretch muscules, so if you don't have huge pain during movements, try to push in these direction and some of muscles may get released.
I've had an on-and-off nagging left shoulder pain (I think due to lifting too many heavy things) and identified a pinching shoulder pain with your 2:11 exercise when pulling back; the moving of my hands don't hurt at all though. I think the sore part/pain is at the fleshy part immediately below the backfacing leftmost pointy part of the horizontal bone (not the clavicle but the one below that). Could you please advise what exercises I can do? Thank you.
I'm glad I found your :ideas. I have RA and osteoarthritis so this information has helped a greT deal. I recently started having a lot of pain in my right shoulder. When mo v ING it certain ways and even waking when i am asleep. Thanks I I will continue to watch.
Ever Since I used this back pain guide, 4BackPainExercise.blogspot.de I discovered incredible developments on my back. That is really a huge deal to me because I have tested many, many guidelines and also my back still hurts after each new one. I can`t believe I`ve found the answer for my back issue I am wishing this alleviation will last!.
Thank you for this video. I have been living with pain for months, and I will finally see a doctor in a couple of weeks. I started with pain in my left shoulder but now I'm losing mobility and strength.
No pain during those tests, i only have pain when benching... i can do overhead press fine with no pain at all. It came on after i had shoulder pain doing heavy bench press and i tried to work through it. Took a month or so off direct chest work and now i still get pain but only with the bench press, do you guys have any idea what could be causing this? P.S i was holding the bar too low so maybe that had some pulling affect on my shoulder joint i don't know
Could be your set up. If you're not setting your scapulae properly, it could lead to the shoulders over working and experiencing pain. Try to really pull your shoulders down to your hips, and squeeze them together. Should feel like you're about to cramp. Doing some scapula retraction work in your warm up might help activate those muscle groups for bench press later on.
@@Ninjakeeper69 Thanks Stefan, i am trying that but it currently too painful to work through. I will be sure to do this when i feel able to perform the exercise again!
Thank you, guys. Your videos are so helpful. I just bought Dr. Kirsch's Shoulder Pain book. I learned about it from you two. Thank you again. I love your videos.
When you’re 17 and your shoulder clicks and pops whenever you move it, and hurts so bad you need lidocaine patches. The only thing that even sounds close was arthritis ugh
... Shoulder pain commonly occurs due to many reasons. Even If you don't lift weight, you can hurt your shoulder because of labor, house work, etc. However, It is possible to prevent a lot of injuries by mobility training on a regular basis. Shoulder joints consist of balls, sockets, rotator cuff, humerus, a lot of muscles and ligaments. Rotator cuff muscles have four parts which are infraspinatus, supraspinatus, teres minor, and subscapularis. These rotate, elevate, and stabilize arms and shoulders. And in front of humerus, there is bicep tendon. If you have bad form, poor posture, or miss control, there is a lot of possibility to hurt your shoulder part. Bad form causes injuries. If you shrug your shoulder and perform some movements, you may tear your rotator cuff tendon, have bursitis, or get bicep tendinitis. It can be torn partially or completely. If you would like to avoid those problems, you should pack your scapula so that you have enough room to move a ball well. Poor posture, especially, your rounded shoulder creates shoulder injuries. When you bench press, your scapula has to be tilted posteriorly and your shoulders have to be rotated externally. However, your sedentary life style makes it hard to move your shoulders smoothly. So, doing mobility training should be essential to improve coordination. Even if you have nice mobility and form, if you lift too heavy or go to failure, you may hurt shoulder joints. So, stop working out before you hurt too much. Taking few days break is much better than stopping your workout for many months. If you had pain, meeting specialists should be done. However, you need to test your doctor before you completely trust him. Because, there are a lot of liars looking for easy victims. Just because he is a doctor doesn't mean he is trustworthy.
Even tho I have insurance, my co-pay for PT is too high. I used your video to improve my (diagnosed) piriformis syndrome, and I ow with my doctor's approval, will be using your impingement exercises to hopefully get some improvement in my shoulder. Thanks so much for your helpful videos!
I am a 12 year old baseball player. I throw extremely hard for my age (low to mid 70s) and have shoulder pain when I throw. Last year I was diagnosed with an inflamed growth plate. Now I feel slight cracking, discomfort, and pain when I throw from over 20 feet away. I took a few weeks off and there was slight improvement. I can't tell exactly what I do have. The affected area is around the rotator cuff, on the front of my shoulder. Could you guys possibly be able to tell me if this is serious? Thx so much if you took time to read this.
Lol. I'm getting a bit older and powerlifting and bjj seem to be somewhat incompatible with that. Unfortunately I can't stop getting older and I don't appear to be willing to stop powerlifting or bjj, so I keep ending up here on the internet learning about injuries. One thing I will say though is that consistently, when I need information on an injury, I can usually find a description of it on this channel. Thanks Bob and Brad. The two most famous physiotherapists on the internet... In my opinion too!
I'm so excited - my frozen shoulder finally broke free after exactly one year! For three months, every day, I've been doing aerobics and lifting small weights. Last week, my shoulder seemed warm and achy so I thought it was getting worse. But yesterday, during the weights, I heard a crackle in my shoulder. This morning it happened again, and now I have full range of motion and no pain! I was really worried before.
wow ive been to 100 doctors over 50 years.. ive learned more in 15 minutes than in my lifetime of sports and sorts... thanks so much.. now help us solve it or rehabilitate ahahaha
My shoulder pain comes from a couple movements not mentioned. 1) arm at 90 angle at elbow, lift up out to the side, as if doing a deltoid wing style lift. 2) reaching arm across chest straight out palm flat facing the ground
I have osteoarthritis in my shoulder and was positive on that test. Physio helps but I ended up having a local steroid injection (directly into the shoulder) and that was extremely effective for me. Also, I get a 'flare up' once or twice a year where my mobility is reduced and it is painful. That usually goes away in a month but sometimes needs heavy duty pills to clear it. Hope that helps.
Very interesting. I am recovering from shoulder surgery, and spend my time healing learning new things from RUclips, and stumbled across your channel. I had a couple of things you all didn’t mention, maybe a topic for a different video. I had both front and back labrum tears, tendinitis, bone spur, arthritis, and my large ligament holding my bicep to my bone was shredding. My pain was from the top of my shoulder down to my elbow. After trying several different fixes, including physical therapy, surgery was my only fix. Now back into physical therapy, hoping to be back to normal soon.
Tests:
00:47 Radiculopathy
01:51 Thorasic Outlet Syndrome
02:45 Rotator Cuff Tear
04:14 Infraspinatus
06:22 Acromioclavicular
07:14 Bursittis
07:48 Impingiment
08:45 Tendinitis
09:37 Unstable sholder
10:32 Fibromyalgia (just mentioned not tested)
Thank u! 😊 I screenshot it, will need it for "checklist" when I head to the orthopedics. 👍🏻
@@honeydhydra3925 You are welcome. 🙂
Thank you!!!
@@amandamotley9017 🙂
Impingement
Almost two years with shoulder pain from a gym injury... And it was solved on 2 weeks thanks to your tips. Thanks so much guys!
Which tips did you take?
@@pabloreyes6442 I did an horizontal massage on my shoulder for solve my tendonitis problem.
Bob and Brad are actually delightful to watch. I enjoyed trying their therapy out with them!
being a physiotherapist myself , I have been really struggling with a pain at the front of my right shoulder which got me worried for over a yea now . I was always thinking that is was an unstable shoulder until I came across this video . The '' pulling hands apart'' acromioclavicular joint test just cleared things for me . Mr. Schrupp and Mr.Hieneck I don't know if you know that , but you are literally helping al kinds of people . I personally believe that every physiotherapist must watch your videos . Many thanks to you , Seniors ( I cannot just call you ''guys'' ) . Please keep sharing you knowledge with us . From The Kingdom of Saudia Arabia , Peace .
I wanted to let you know that after going to a chiropractor for a dozen times and two different physiotherapists, these exercises are the ones that helped me the most. It has been 6 months without shoulder pain now. Thanks!
So glad to hear that we could help!
Bob & Brad I'd like to thank you guys for your advice on how to fix shoulder pain, I've been trying to get back into a good sleep routine, but my shoulder was giving me a terrible time, so something as simple as putting a pillow under my ribcage to change the load point has made all the difference, so very much appreciated thanks guys
Thanks
You guys are amazing!after suffering for five year with arm and neck pain, I've been working on for 4 days and I finally got some relief thanks to you guys.😘
I am also suffering from 6 yrs
The doc wanted to operate a long time ago, but I wanted to try to exercise it out. I got better, and I got older, and I got worse, and re injured it. In comes Bob and Brad. Ice, posture, tendon massage, and for me, staying off the phone, and the lap top helps... etc, all the exercising tips... so good. Thank you so much. Recently, I actually thought I'd have to have surgery, but with your help, and if I stick with this, I might be ok. So much better. Thank you so much.
That entry is litt.
I am a Minnesotan living in Germany and stumbled onto these guys....within seconds I KNEW they were from my homeland! Go Bob And Brad! Love your info, love your accent, and love that purple football behind you!
Well, I fail the rotator cuff ones and number 8 is exactly as you describe with the nerve. Once it clears and the arm is up it feels fine. It doesn't help that to do all of these I have to lift my left arm with my right one due to the extreme pain. I tore my rotator cuff back in the 90s surfing and this happened while surfing and then was worsened by a bad fall while hiking. The motion needed for paddling my surfboard is impossible right now. My shoulder got suddenly compressed while attempting to pop up on one wave & the pain was intense. In the weeks leading up to that, I was having constant elbow pain and numbness/tingling down through my fingertips.
Most likely you two won't ever see this comment but, you two are great. Watching your videos helped me through my recovery from having both hips replaced back in 2018. I did my own PT and did just fine. While I may never be where I was 10 years ago I'm doing quite well considering. I'm 60 by the way and I do some pretty difficult hikes.
I was worried I messed up my rotator cuff for a good week. Got checked out and everything is okay. I just need to stop lifting so heavy and focus more on lighter weight with higher reps.
These guys it healed my shoulder! Been suffering for months and months and tried one of the recommendations of just hanging from a bar. I heard a bone snap in my upper arm next to my shoulder and low and behold my pain was almost completely gone within the hour and still holding five hours later! Thanks guys!
7:06 Brad had a good point. You may be "positive" on some of these tests and it may not be a huge problem. Just something to keep an eye on. Thanks Brad! I think he was trying to get a point across but Bob started talking to soon haha.
i am so glad you stated this as it frustrated me that i wasnt able to get both professionals opinions because one was quick to jump to a conclusion lmao at these sorta person to person interactions due to the silly underlying issue(s) if it was him trying to seem more correct then brad even though its clearly a duo channel one bigger head will tend to be more in the bob direction of handling these situation in that particular way..no more disecting this moment honestly quite entertainingly ridiculous to rewatch i was just shaking my head at that immediate friendly fire shot bob gave to the trusted brad
@Jagar Tharn I try I try
I love that these videos empower people in their own body again, and not only depend on experts. Testing your body yourself is so natural. I also bought the Bob & Brad Mini Massage gun, and everyone who had it against their body really liked it.
I'm really impressed that Bob & Brad included Fibromyalgia in 2017. It took me going through a few doctors and finally a rheumatologist to get diagnosed. There are still some doctors today who are not convinced that it's a real condition. I had one tell me that Fibromyalgia is something you end up diagnosing after eliminating everything else. No! There are very specific symptoms. It really takes a Rheumatologist to do the specific tests to make a proper diagnosis.
@bina nocht She did many tests on all sorts of levels of things in my blood and body. I couldn't tell you specifically as I don't understand most of them. Very medically technical. Things like hormones, lipids, hemoglobin... a very long list. What I remember is that there were things present that only show up with Fibromyalgia and nothing else.
@bina nocht Actually there are many studies being done and there are doctors who believe that not only is Fybromyalgia a real condition but that it has a specific cause. That cause being a neurological disconnect between the brain and body in the pain receptors and the interpretation / misinterpretation of pain. The medication I'm on that helps considerably, rewires the brain a bit in this area.
Subscribed. Super delivery, a wealth of information, and none of the regular scare tactics like, "If you turn your shoulder this way, it could be caused by your bones melting and you should see a doctor today before you collapse!" Thank you very much for the vast amount of information you provide in a meaningful way.
your intro healed my shoulder pain, thanks !
hahaha so glad to hear that :)
I had an injury on my shoulder last week. You guys have been fantastic. I know what to tell my doctor about my pain.
Thank you guys, i recently injured my shoulder but couldn't figure out what joint was causing the pain ... But your test helped a lot! It was the AC joint.
Hey man I have the same thing. Can you tell me please how you fixed thar?
Really helpful video...when a consultant spends only 10 minutes examining you it's excellent to come prepared
You guys appeared in my feed at just at the right time. Not only have I been worried about a hip problem, but just last week, I tweaked my shoulder somehow. Now, I'm trying all the exercises and stretches on your segments. Love, love, love you guys. Thanks a bunch.
If my hip doesn't react to some of the exercises, I will go see my Dr.
Thanks guys! I’m a 54 year old Crossfitter (uh-oh!) and I’ve been doing a lot of virtual body weight CrossFit classes. I cannot move my arm away from my body, but this video makes me believe that I have tendinitis, as the most pain is felt on the anterior arm at the deltoid muscle and bursa site. I have the painful arc and it hurts when I place my hand on opposite shoulder and then lift the elbow. Sitting against a wall, I cannot place my arm at a 90 degree angle and forget getting the elbow and even knuckles of my hand to the wall to do a simple raise. So much pain! For now I’m treating the arm as if it’s broken during workouts and only doing lower body work. I don’t think it’s a SLAP tear or arthritis.
Clicked on this video not expecting that bomb intro
I did your tests and osteoarthritis was the culprit... Went to doctor and it was osteoarthritis... You guys know your stuff...
Thank you so much! I watch your channel every day and recommend it to my friends and family. You guys provide such a valuable public service! Keep up the great work!
Your video really helped me recognize that the source of my shoulder pain is AC joint. Now I have a better idea of what I'm dealing with. Very helpful-thanks!!!
Great information, but I'm even more frustrated now because none of these seem to describe my shoulder pain. :(
Melissa Wantland me too :(
Might just need to strengthen your shoulders. Some people just get discomfort from weak shoulders.
Jay I’m fairly certain that’s my problem, but I can’t start working out because the pain just gets worse. In fact, it all began when I started doing pull ups to strengthen my shoulders.
@@thegoldenllama8787 omg yes. It's hard.. my knees hurt when I walk so sometimes I can't walk, but at the same time I have to walk for my knees to get stronger. Like what do you want from me knees 🤦🏻♀️
@@thegoldenllama8787 this is probably from pulling when your shoulders aren’t engaged I used to have the problem as well but when I started practicing scapular pulls it went away
I had an Automobile accident 2003. My ball joint popped out of my arm down to elbow bone. (This was such a painful moment) went to Hospital immediately, next to Orthopedic Doctor, took X-RAYS. I was told by my Doctor it was a clean break. I iced my Arm everytime. I would freeze the Pain. I would slowly start a weight exercise. It was painful at times. Then I would ice again. Now, I just have to get this bone to attach to my lower bone. I will see my Orthopedic Doctor again. Thank you for such an informative viewing.
Thank you ! Now i am feeling pain in my shoulder
God Bless You guys for making this video! I learned more in the short video about shoulder pain than I did in 30 yrs of Acute care nursing! Great explanation without the "God Complex" of most Drs. Thanks so much.
Thank you so much I am following your exercises because I am in so much pain. They are very helpful.
A chiropractor recommend me to watch your video about frozen shoulder, and I made the excersises, now I am well.
Thank you very much
Thank you very much guys I appreciate you all taking the time to explain all of this and help me very much I know now what is wrong with my shoulder and thanks again
You know what's funny? I was searching the internet, trying out some tests (most of which I've done wrong, but the painful arc I actually did correctly and it hurt a little), then I've done the painful arc with this video and my shoulfer actually almost didn't hurt.
Thank you for this video! I'm a medical student, but we cover traumatology and orthopedia reeeeeally lightly, and it's really frustrating to not be able to understand basic things. And it's hard to self-study when you don't have visuals.
Don't worry. Most medical doctors write "painful shoulder" on the script. We figure out the exact diagnosis and report it back to the medical doctor😏.
Gets shoulder inflamed again, first stop is Bob and Brad who are geniuses thank you! 🙏
Thank you all I’ve been having some serious shoulder issues for around a year now. I’m a Millwright who carries a lot of tools etc daily. Thank you I’m not crazy and thinking it’s just age and stubbornness on my part
I am wishing you had put a title/number/caption on each item as you discussed it. Am a big fan overall - love the channel - thanks!
You’re second to none boys.By following your advice I avoided spinal surgery
Excellent and informative presentation with a splash of humor. Very engaging personalities and great interaction. Even fun to watch if you're not having shoulder issues.
just wanna say thank you to both of you...
A++ for you both! This really helped narrow down my issue. I think the relief of just knowing what my issue is, brought my pain level down, and got me focused on relevant solutions. Pinched nerve test (the 'ridiculous test', as you jokingly called it) rang my 'bell' 100% on my pain side, and 50% on the other arm side. So I did some research and after previously trying acupuncture, lidocaine patches, hot pads, cold pads, pain killers and just about EVERYTHING else, (nothing was really working) I found some info on Capsaicin hot patch for 'calming down' the nerves.(I was anxiously thinking I would need some serious surgery, the pain has been 'nerve racking', pun intended.) I had the patch on for less than 5 min and had to take it off, as I was feeling a very hot, almost burning sensation that I was warned about. Ironically, after 10 minutes of running coldish water over my shoulder in the shower, (and thinking this was another wast of time), my pain level went from a 4/5 day marathon (with VERY little sleep, and cranky like a wounded Bull), of 8-9/10 down to a 1-2/10! It seems that my body reaction to the Capsaicin may have 'neutralized' my nerve pain? No idea, but like magic, it worked!! Albeit, the reaction made it much worse for about 10 min till I cooled off the burning pain with a cold shower, the aftermath, somehow made the pain drop down almost immediately. I was totally not expecting this, and I am still in a bit of disbelief, but relief has finally arrived. I will cut down the 5x7 patch size in half next time, and be quicker to take it off as soon as I feel the burning sensation, which can cause actually burns to some whom are allergic, according to what I have read. Somewhere a surgeon just shed a tear. And my Bull headedness paid off really thanks to you guys! Godspeed my brothers and keep up the great work. Thank you.
Best phys. therapy channel on youtube or anywhere.
Thank you for this video!! Very helpful, and you two work very well together. I’ve had problems in my right shoulder for years
Just saw my chiropractor, he says I have tendonitis. I couldn't lift my shoulder and it radiates down to my upper arm and my hands. I've had bursitis in the past but now I need regular adjustments in my neck. It's hard to exercise and I can't lift heavy objects because of a back and neck injury. I'm glad I came across this video.
I learnt more in 12 minutes from these guys than 12 months with an NHS physio.
Shoulder impingement it is, thanks Bob and Brad
I carry a couple of those symptoms I think.
Excellent video. Have you ever heard of these symptoms? Right shoulder feels like it's dislocating (sever pain 10/10) occasionally when sneezing, yawning, and just standing. I have no symptoms of any of the tests you demonstrate in your video.I can swim, play tennis etc - no problem. I have learnt when the first twinge occurs to sit down, lean back and apply pressure to the front of my right shoulder with my left hand.
I’m in the same boat! Both shoulders do it (right is much worse), but my right shoulder sometimes affects my elbow and wrist horribly. Any news on what you’re going through? My guess is instability.
Love the intro song. Helped with my shoulder pain a little bit.
Thank you for this video. I think my injury is the AC Joint.
Me too!!
Thanks guys. I fell a couple years ago & my shoulder still hurts. This is a good start to get to the bottom of what could be causing the pain.
cv
*Just do that exercise in **_Bulletproof Your Shoulder_** - it'll fix a bunch of shoulder problems for good.*
The book by Jim Johnson?
HIBob&Brad I just want to thank youvery much for your insite on how to fix shoulder pain it really helps me a lot you guys are the best after doing all your exercises I have a great relief may God bless you both thanks again
So you say , “ nerve pain is some of the worst pain you’re gonna have” ... well shit that’s the best news I herd all year ! So your saying there not much that can hurt worse than this..... thank god
Thx guys. My shoulder is double jointed and I think the slight pain is from moving around. When I was a kid I could push down the socket and put my finger under the bone that goes across the top shoulder area
love your channel, i wish you could include how we make it better and the stretches we should do?
They have videos on that already. Search for it.
These guys are good. I love how they get into detail that way it's easier for me (or the other viewers) to pinpoint the problem. Must say that the both of them can sure as hell fancy a knot, along with their sharp ties. Really helped me out, thank you
Yep, number 7 for me. right shoulder. Now, what to do about it.
ruclips.net/video/-Zx3pWhMBjw/видео.html link to their other video on a fix!
This was actually a huge help thanks guys. I didn't believe there was actual useful and professional content on here anymore. Genuinely subscribing.
I have the first one. Pinched shoulder nerve. Pain in left shoulder area when head is turned to my right and pressed down there is definitive pain even before pressing down on my head. Can feel the stiffness and mild pain doing it while turning my head to my left but comparatively nothing. Usual pain was seemingly at random like I could move my arm fine most of the time then from nowhere extreme pain. Seems to be when I moved my torso for mild pain and both torso and arm simultaneously for the good stuff.
No numbness or tingling in either hand,
I'd just like to say how surprisingly painful this is. I've suffered with gallstones for 20 years and after the first time and your scared you can actually tank through it.
With this I've not had more than 5 hours sleep for the best part of a week now even with throwing two OTC co-codamol in me at night. I wake up in agony. I cry out in pain when I move. A few paracetamol (Tylenol) eases it up fine for the day though.
As far as I'm aware as to the cause is I did it in my sleep... As stupid as that downs I went to bed fine woke up in pain the next day. Woke up the next day lying on my side while attempting to drive my shoulder point first into the bed as hard as I could in my sleep. Which as you can imagine was equal parts confusing and extremely painful.
Hoping this eases up on it's own. It's not exactly the right time to be bothering the NHS.
What happened to the link on impingement treatment??? 🙏🙏🙏
Thank u guys. Help stretch my shoulder route pain slowly going away
You guys rock!!! Thanks for taking the time to help us with your experience and expertise. God bless you both!!! I have a cervical radiculopathy
Thank you! I thought I had bursitis. Nope. Definitely tendonitis and impingement. You made this easy.
Thanks guys! You rock!
I started getting pain in my shoulder after a month of doing 20 min home exercise routine.
My shoulder cracks when moving it in awkward positions now and it gives me a sharp pain when I'm resting on my elbows. I can simulate this pain by trying to reach at the top portion of my back as in trying to scrum my back with the back of my fist facing my back and pushing it up.
My left hand can be pushed higher up but the right hand starts feeling uncomfortable half way through, it used to be worse a month ago but now its a lil bit less severe lol
You sound like me. I believe I hurt mine with exercise as well .
@@rosebloom2214 mine is getting better now.. Its not the best but i have stopped putting mot strain on it and i havent experienced any trouble lately.
Thank you guys for sharing your knowledge.
I found your shoulder impingement video and found pain relief in one day!
i there, i'm a personal trainer, i already knew the hawkins test, neer test and yocum test, but i really need the name of the others test so i can study about them so for i can apply them on my patients if it's need..
thanks for your work and your response!
Ricardo
Still waiting. Lol!
you guys are terribly good. Your videos are terribly appreciated. (this is a complement, thank you).
I give a free hint here which i've discovered myself: you can use all these movements these guys have just shown to stretch muscules, so if you don't have huge pain during movements, try to push in these direction and some of muscles may get released.
Agreed! None of these triggered my symptoms so I'm still at a loss (thinking frozen shoulder maybe) but my shoulder does feel nice and stretched!
Thank you fellas, learned much from this about my own injury
I've had an on-and-off nagging left shoulder pain (I think due to lifting too many heavy things) and identified a pinching shoulder pain with your 2:11 exercise when pulling back; the moving of my hands don't hurt at all though. I think the sore part/pain is at the fleshy part immediately below the backfacing leftmost pointy part of the horizontal bone (not the clavicle but the one below that). Could you please advise what exercises I can do? Thank you.
This is such a great channel. Just self diagnosed my condition.
Number 7. That's my problem. Thanks. Is there any exercise to fix it?
Pramit Shrestha mine too
I have psoriatic arthritis and have had several random issues with tendons, bursa, and joints. Thanks I have tendonitis in my should now.
I need u to speak on fibromyalgia!!!
Me too!!
I'm glad I found your :ideas. I have RA and osteoarthritis so this information has helped a greT deal. I recently started having a lot of pain in my right shoulder. When mo v ING it certain ways and even waking when i am asleep. Thanks I I will continue to watch.
How can I treat the Painful Arc, with the pinch ? When I lift my arm over all the way up straight, thats when it hurts. What should I do?
Ever Since I used this back pain guide, 4BackPainExercise.blogspot.de
I discovered incredible developments on my back. That is really a huge deal to me because I have tested many, many guidelines and also my back still hurts after each new one. I can`t believe I`ve found the answer for my back issue I am wishing this alleviation will last!.
Thank you for this video. I have been living with pain for months, and I will finally see a doctor in a couple of weeks. I started with pain in my left shoulder but now I'm losing mobility and strength.
No pain during those tests, i only have pain when benching... i can do overhead press fine with no pain at all. It came on after i had shoulder pain doing heavy bench press and i tried to work through it. Took a month or so off direct chest work and now i still get pain but only with the bench press, do you guys have any idea what could be causing this?
P.S i was holding the bar too low so maybe that had some pulling affect on my shoulder joint i don't know
Could be your set up. If you're not setting your scapulae properly, it could lead to the shoulders over working and experiencing pain. Try to really pull your shoulders down to your hips, and squeeze them together. Should feel like you're about to cramp. Doing some scapula retraction work in your warm up might help activate those muscle groups for bench press later on.
@@Ninjakeeper69 Thanks Stefan, i am trying that but it currently too painful to work through. I will be sure to do this when i feel able to perform the exercise again!
Thank you, guys. Your videos are so helpful. I just bought Dr. Kirsch's Shoulder Pain book. I learned about it from you two. Thank you again. I love your videos.
When you’re 17 and your shoulder clicks and pops whenever you move it, and hurts so bad you need lidocaine patches. The only thing that even sounds close was arthritis ugh
I’m 13 :(
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Shoulder pain commonly occurs due to many reasons. Even If you don't lift weight, you can hurt your shoulder because of labor, house work, etc. However, It is possible to prevent a lot of injuries by mobility training on a regular basis.
Shoulder joints consist of balls, sockets, rotator cuff, humerus, a lot of muscles and ligaments. Rotator cuff muscles have four parts which are infraspinatus, supraspinatus, teres minor, and subscapularis. These rotate, elevate, and stabilize arms and shoulders. And in front of humerus, there is bicep tendon.
If you have bad form, poor posture, or miss control, there is a lot of possibility to hurt your shoulder part.
Bad form causes injuries. If you shrug your shoulder and perform some movements, you may tear your rotator cuff tendon, have bursitis, or get bicep tendinitis. It can be torn partially or completely. If you would like to avoid those problems, you should pack your scapula so that you have enough room to move a ball well.
Poor posture, especially, your rounded shoulder creates shoulder injuries. When you bench press, your scapula has to be tilted posteriorly and your shoulders have to be rotated externally. However, your sedentary life style makes it hard to move your shoulders smoothly. So, doing mobility training should be essential to improve coordination.
Even if you have nice mobility and form, if you lift too heavy or go to failure, you may hurt shoulder joints. So, stop working out before you hurt too much. Taking few days break is much better than stopping your workout for many months.
If you had pain, meeting specialists should be done. However, you need to test your doctor before you completely trust him. Because, there are a lot of liars looking for easy victims. Just because he is a doctor doesn't mean he is trustworthy.
I've problem of 5:15 when I do this a sound or a crack pops up everytime please tell me what can I do !
I have that same problem! And I was told I have an unstable shoulder joint with some impingement.
Even tho I have insurance, my co-pay for PT is too high. I used your video to improve my (diagnosed) piriformis syndrome, and I ow with my doctor's approval, will be using your impingement exercises to hopefully get some improvement in my shoulder. Thanks so much for your helpful videos!
Hello Kelly
How are you doing today?
No mention of frozen shoulder ?
would you be able to do a quick one for it? Between my shoulder specialist and my biokenticist they cant agree.
Lot of thanks! Have a nice time :)
I am a 12 year old baseball player. I throw extremely hard for my age (low to mid 70s) and have shoulder pain when I throw. Last year I was diagnosed with an inflamed growth plate. Now I feel slight cracking, discomfort, and pain when I throw from over 20 feet away. I took a few weeks off and there was slight improvement. I can't tell exactly what I do have. The affected area is around the rotator cuff, on the front of my shoulder. Could you guys possibly be able to tell me if this is serious? Thx so much if you took time to read this.
+physicaltherapyvideo I am 12 too, the first and second excercises created my symptoms, what could that be???
physicaltherapyvideo thank you so much, I took time off (not throwing) and I feel perfect. Can't thank you enough
sounds suspicious for a SLAP lesion (labral tear). MRI to confirm diagnosis, but likely physiotherapy will help in treating.
I am a football quarterback and I have similar symptoms!
@@arshiyakapil4711 no way. . . i used to be 12
Thanks to both of you for this education! Really appreciate.
6:18 hit me with some serious nostalgia. Haven’t seen Gumby in 20 years!!!!
Thank you so much your video was helpfully to me. I have a shoulder pain
Why does my shoulder pain become intolerable at night?
Man, me TOO....Feels like a heavy nail sticking in my shoulder sometimes, and wakes me up!
Rotator cuff possibly.
Don't sleep on your shoulder. The tendons push against the bones and this usually causes the pain.
Lol. I'm getting a bit older and powerlifting and bjj seem to be somewhat incompatible with that.
Unfortunately I can't stop getting older and I don't appear to be willing to stop powerlifting or bjj, so I keep ending up here on the internet learning about injuries.
One thing I will say though is that consistently, when I need information on an injury, I can usually find a description of it on this channel.
Thanks Bob and Brad. The two most famous physiotherapists on the internet... In my opinion too!
These guys are hilarious haha
And you are just drop dead Gorgeous.
@@harrytinoa9236 . . .
I did all the test along with you. Its burn my muscles to be tighter and sore.
2020 who’s with me
Sadly.
I am
Me dude
Literally everyone reading this comment
Yep...
I'm so excited - my frozen shoulder finally broke free after exactly one year! For three months, every day, I've been doing aerobics and lifting small weights. Last week, my shoulder seemed warm and achy so I thought it was getting worse. But yesterday, during the weights, I heard a crackle in my shoulder. This morning it happened again, and now I have full range of motion and no pain! I was really worried before.
if yall could do an impingement video ,,id love yall forever..
doc johnny
wow ive been to 100 doctors over 50 years.. ive learned more in 15 minutes than in my lifetime of sports and sorts... thanks so much..
now help us solve it or rehabilitate ahahaha
My shoulder pain comes from a couple movements not mentioned. 1) arm at 90 angle at elbow, lift up out to the side, as if doing a deltoid wing style lift. 2) reaching arm across chest straight out palm flat facing the ground
Its painful for me to move my arm back in this position in the vid-> 5.04 what is the problem?please help🙏🏻
I am having this same problem, did you ever find out what your problem was
I have osteoarthritis in my shoulder and was positive on that test. Physio helps but I ended up having a local steroid injection (directly into the shoulder) and that was extremely effective for me. Also, I get a 'flare up' once or twice a year where my mobility is reduced and it is painful. That usually goes away in a month but sometimes needs heavy duty pills to clear it. Hope that helps.
Great people to be able to diagnose the problem I had just watch their vid!
good job gentlemen I like your videos
Very interesting. I am recovering from
shoulder surgery, and spend my time healing learning new things from RUclips, and stumbled across your channel. I had a couple of things you all didn’t mention, maybe a topic for a different video. I had both front and back labrum tears, tendinitis, bone spur, arthritis, and my large ligament holding my bicep to my bone was shredding. My pain was from the top of my shoulder down to my elbow. After trying several different fixes, including physical therapy, surgery was my only fix. Now back into physical therapy, hoping to be back to normal soon.