Controversial Call at MLP Mesa against Tyson McGuffin || This Shouldn't Have Happened
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- Опубликовано: 24 сен 2024
- The ref makes the wrong call on a serve that Tyson does every single time. All the refs have seen this exact serve and have never called it until today.
However, as he usually does he makes contact on his serve ABOVE his waist
Quit standing on the line and you won't get called. Just move the f*** over. lmao
Well she shouldn't call an arbitrary fault from so far away and make mistakes is my opinion. He was within the rules.
@@josephplayspickleball He should just move over a few inches. No problem them =]
Thank you for posting. You are obviously a Tyson fanboy. Can you read her mind... No. Yet you do on a couple of points. Does his left foot look like it is touching the ground, at our angle? Very possibly. She actually has a better view than us. Refs have to start calling fault/replays for when "they think" a fault has occurred. I'm betting 60% of Tyson's serves are someway illegal. Maybe she could have called a replay, if she wasn't sure. But I guess she was sure. :)
If my video isn't clear enough, I should've done a better recap with better video clips. Thanks for the feedback
Also, not a Tyson fanboy, I was rooting for Las Vegas.
Agreed OP
@@josephplayspickleball Wait, are you Tyson?
Bro it was a fault
How?
The only reason her eyes are so focused on his feet position is because she was asked to watch them as have I and other officials at various times. One looks at the waist the other at the feet. Especially when there's been a question/history. Brava to her for having the guts to make a good tough call.
A bad tough call.
As others said "McGuffin fanboy". This player breaks the rules every time he serves when he hits the ball above his waist. The serve is supposed to be underhanded motion, his is sidearm. On this serve he is clearly violating the center mark. Your service motion has to be legal from start to finish. The fact that anyone would criticize the official here is ridiculous. The fact that they don't call this guy on all his serves is ridiculous. Why does everyone have to follow the rules except this guy who finds any way he can to bend them and break them....? How about this.....get rid of your illegal fancy trash serve and just play by the rules like everyone else..... ? In this case why can't he just not violate the center line... ? Official would not be doing her job if she did not call this.
I had 3 issues with this call:
1. It is never called, and never warned about, and nobody would assume they're breaking or even close to breaking the rule because of that
2. it's an imaginary line so the ref can't even tell if he's crossed it, she has to make a guess, which makes for a bad look
3. And to top it off she made the wrong call! He didn't even break the rule, so all that's what made it a bad call in my opinion.
@@josephplayspickleball Here's the thing. He knows he is breaking two rules....he is sleazily trying to take advantage of everything he can because he knows they are not calling him on it because he is a "star". Just because "they don't call it" doesn't mean they can't call it or shouldn't call it. They don't have to warn him either. He is not the "victim" of this call.....he is the perpetrator.....petulantly pushing the rules and the boundaries as much as he can for his own selfish ends. Every player is responsible for knowing the rules and following the rules. Everyone should play with honor.....a concept that is foreign here. The fact that it is an "important point during the dream breaker with a lot of money on the line" is also irrelevant. He is breaking multiple rules whenever the point is being played.....and therefore is putting a target on himself to have that called on him. Really he is selfishly letting his team down with this behavior. That is on the coach or manager or whatever they have and his teammates to get him in line.....otherwise his behaviors could cost the team. It would be easy for him to comply with the rules and play fairly.....but apparently that is not him. No one should be an apologist or an enabler to his behavior.....
@@JYDMAZDA Fair enough. The one thing you don't seem to understand though is that there was no fault committed and she called it anyway.
Ref calls are made in a split second. Refs are trained to make these calls and you would be hard pressed to find a ref more responsible then this particular ref. To say that this is a terrible call is asinine. She would not make this call unless she was absolutely certain. You have the ability to slow this down, stop action, reverse, etc. Her call is made in a split second. She is doing her job. If you aren’t a ref then take a few years getting certified and perhaps then you can be as highly trained as these refs.
If I were to guess, by the way she is scrutinizing the placement of his foot with that shadow, that this is not the first time she has seen him that close or on the line. As a certified ref in soccer I don’t believe you haven’t made close calls. She has no skin in the game, she calls it as she sees it. I believe that there is no malice in any of the refs calls. They aren’t there to stir up trouble and they certainly aren’t there to insert themselves into the game. They are there to uphold the rules. I’ve watch Tyson many times where I thought he was over the line. I’m sure he has gotten away with it countless of times. This time he got caught because someone with a better view than even you with your stop action, reverse, close up, view had. She had an up front, dead on view of his toe and said it was a foot fault.
@@cindywiseman4350 yes, but his foot wasnt on the ground when he hit it.
@@josephplayspickleball you seriously can’t tell if his toe is touching. Let it go. You cannot question a call like that. As for the ref, if you ever have a chance to meet her, ask her anything about the rule book. I promise you she can recite to you verbatim any rule you question. As far as needing more training, she has reffed more games in more states than anyone I know. These MLP refs have been hand picked because of their experience and knowledge and ability to hold the court. Don’t ever doubt their ability to call it as they see it.
@@cindywiseman4350 I'm sorry I didn't give the best look in the way I showed it. go look at the original slowed down and it's very clearly not touching
@@cindywiseman4350 I'm not mad that a mistake was made. I'm confused that it was this mistake at this time made this certain way. It's all about the context.
You’re crazy…his toe is still on the ground you just can’t tell from behind and he does it all the time…but who cares, it isn’t really an advantage. But watch him serve…he does not serve with one foot off the ground like you’re saying. The only guy who does that is twinkletoes Dekel Bar and his serve is fantastic.
You said that the Server is actually allowed to use the Center line area where it lines up & meets with the Baseline. Some other Paddle/ Racquet Sports are more stingy with their Dimensions
Yeah it's definitely interesting. Many people are confused and think he can't touch the imaginary extension.
This is pickleball, not other sports.
The ref was correct. I watched Tyson McGuffin and he ALWAYS steps across the center line on serves.
He didn't step across though on this serve
Move over.
Wow... You are surely a Tyson's fan.
He already gets away with his controversial serve, but here he clearly stepped at the imaginary line when he was serving. He doesn't need to cross the line (as you meny). He stepped on the line and is a fault. End of story!
You are allowed to step on the imaginary line. You cannot touch beyond it. Not a fault in this case
@@josephplayspickleball please go read the rule book. Don't spread false information, just because you believe what you're saying to be true.
@@HD101PRODUCTIONS Actually it's only a fault if you are physically touching those areas.
4.A.4. The moment the ball is served:
4.A.4.c. Neither of the server’s feet may touch outside the imaginary extensions of the sideline or centerline.
Please read the rulebook. 😁
@@josephplayspickleball yep... You did read it... You just didn't understand it... 😂🤣😂
@@HD101PRODUCTIONS It means what it says. It's ok man I get rules wrong all the time too. That's why we have a rule book to go back to. No worries.
No sympathy. That's a fault. Could have called a paddle fault, too, for lack of upward movement. Could have called a spin serve fault, too, for spinning the ball before contact.
It's not a foot fault though
Fanboy for sure. Tell your boy to move over then this wouldn’t happen lol every single serve of his is questionable af.
In my opinion his feet aren't the issue. It's so hard for the ref to be sure from that angle. Really the issue should be with his paddle because that's where he's gaining an advantage.
It doesn’t matter if his foot is in the air he can’t cross the line period when serving. Same thing with the outside lines and service across the middle line.
Actually it's only a fault if you are physically touching those areas.
4.A.4. The moment the ball is served:
4.A.4.c. Neither of the server’s feet may touch outside the imaginary extensions of the sideline or centerline.
Dude thats a fault
Nope she was correct in her call
How? He wasn't touching beyond the imaginary line when he served though?
@@josephplayspickleball His foot lands on the wrong side of the line as he finishes his swing!
@@patricksnyder3446 the rules say that it only matters where your feet are when contact is made with the ball.
@@josephplayspickleball and his is beyaond the line I have watched him do this for a long time somedays his foot goes farther past than others so quit your whining he serves illegally in more ways than one!
@@patricksnyder3446 all I'm saying is the fault called did not happen