Shaykh Kashif Khan | Policing thought, Pornography & Pandora's box | MindTrap with Mufti #15
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Navigating through Crucial Conversations & Difficult Dialogues on Faith in our World today.
*[Timestamps below]
Guest: Shaykh Kashif Khan
*The objective of these videos is to bring to the public such conversations that have for too long remained private, for the privileged and seldom spoken before the flock.
And so the legend has it, the noose eventually loosened from around the neck of Liberty.
With Love
MALM
1:00 - opening remarks
3:48 - introduction to shaykh kashif khan
14:36 -intresting story
17:30 - reasons behind the announcement of reopening masjids in Pakistan
20:46 shaykh kashif and mufti talk about religion and making money using it (like a business)
24:33 - shaykh kashif criticisms of ahle hadith
28:39 - shaykh kashif and mufti talk about allowing women to pray in the Masjid
36:18 - women during menstruation (impurity, masjid, sex and Hanbali fatwa etc.)
43:09 - paying taxes and paying zakat thoughts? (Javed Ahmed Ghamidi) (Salaf)
44:40 - Zakat and how clearly is it defined?
47:58 - shaykh kashif's thoughts on paying taxes and can that substitute paying zakat? (If welfare is provided)
55:55 - Ruling on breast feeding and women's milk.
shaykh kashif and his controversial findings (posts)
1:04:44 - Mufti Muhammad Yusuf Ludhianvi sahib and his divorce.
1:06:38 - Scholars and using diffrent rulings for themselves and for regular public giving harsh rulings.
1:06:38 - using harsh rulings and destorying families
1:13:22 - Triple Talaq issue
1:17:55 - does shaykh kashif get criticism for sharing his views? Challenging views.
1:23:18 - Mufti talks about his fatwa on marriage to non-Muslims and anal sex.
1:23:18 - opening a Pandora's box on rulings in Islam
1:27:56 - ruling on pornography and alcohol. Covering up publicly. Lowering of the gaze.
1:44:29 - ruling on the use of pornography and masterbation to deal with desires. Halal or Haram? (For men and women)
2:01:00 - importance of speaking on these issues
2:02:10 - Quran and sunnah speak about haya modesty does this opinion not go against that?
2:07:50 - having sex while fasting
2:14:08 - why do you think these types of fatawa trigger people? (Question for shaykh kashif)
2:20:03 - story about a debate in Jamia Abi bakr about oral sex
2:23:13 - shaykh kashif would you feel that releasing these viewpoints will legitimize peoples actions (like watching porn or masterbation)
2:29:00 - about hanafi rulings and salafi and people in madrasa. Sodomy.
2:33:30 - shaykh is not better that people do these things with guilt? Therefore they will ask for tawbah after words.
2:35:25 - is guilt a good thing? Does Islam teach us to guilt trip? Ideas on guilt.
2:45:15 - the consumption of pornography leads to and creates a demand for sex trafficking does it assist it in this way?
2:50:13 - supporting these types of industries
2:55:00 - Importance of studying and sharing that knowledge
3:01:50 - final words closing remarks
The more you learn the more you find out about how little you truly know. That's the biggest take away from this episode.
For real. Eye opening episode
This goes to show how much censorship does the clergies practice with our tradition...If it wasn't for people like you we wouldn't have known this stuff
did they just say that porn is halal?? like are they for real?
Yeah lets disregard Quran and Sunna when they talk about haya'a, not pursuing other peoples awrah, lowering ones gaze and all of that; also all the scientific evidence about the harms of pornography on the brain and how it literally shrinks and rewires parts of it; the sociological harms of how it changes the way men view women(i.e.objectification) , how women view men (the classic 'toxic masculinity'), and how they view their own selves; and the industry and how corrupt it is... Yep lets throw all this into the trash because one Shafi'i scholar one time said that if you end up looking at reflections of women in lakes is not a sin...and also everyone is doing it so it must be Halal, of course.
my point is not to demonize Mufti, or anyone watching porn, it's just i don't know how it could be halal however you spin the text + taking into account all the evidence of its harms upon the individual an society makes near impossible to say it's halal, the thing is.. its like mufti said in a previous monday nights "..if you want to do something do it, but just don't drag islam into it.."
I agree 100% esp with the last paragraph
Smail well. He addressed the lowering your gaze. “Not pursing other people” when you watch porn you’re not pursing anyone. Again lowering ones gaze is meant in person not virtually online which someone independently decided to expose themselves. “Scientific evidence” most people say porn is harmful when you abuse it and use it in a horrid matter this is solely on the person who uses it. Men objectifying women does not come from porn alone at all. It’s societal norms and bad influences of sad men being manipulated. Yes there’s some parts of the industry that’s corrupt it wasn’t always like this and people can view other way ethical porn or drawn porn which artists actually commit too.
@@qwite9309 thank you for the reply, i'm gonna try to respond to the points i see relevant one by one..if i forget one or misrepresent please correct me..
"when you watch porn you’re not pursing anyone"
maybe you don't, but still if you see the comments under most videos there's always the "whats her name" comment there, and you'd be naive if you think that people there wont (and) don't dox and harass the actresses if they get the chance, you might say well they're just creeps and that's their problem..but still that doesn't solve the problem at all in any way..
"most people say porn is harmful when you abuse it "
i don't think that's an argument to be honest, what do you mean by "abuse" and "use it in horrid manner" ?
i mean you could say that about literally anything.
teddy bears are harmful when you abuse them and use them in a horrid matter this is solely on the person who uses them.
??
Men objectifying women does not come from porn alone at all
of course it does not come only from porn, that was not my point...
sure women (and men) were objectified since idk forever..my point is porn blew that into astronomical degrees were the first thing someone does if he watches porn alot is compare the girl in front of him with other models on the net, and the thing is that, it's not his fault his brain was rewired by the influx of images he saw, and does that subconsciously..which ties down with your point before about "lowering the gaze"
...umm look, before you made the difference between meeting someone "in person" and "virtually online", here a thought experiment to make my point clear..
What is the difference between a porn start doing a live show, and monday nights with mufti ? (sorry mufti)
-both shows depend on audience interaction
-both hosts take requests from their audiences (pls do this/pls answer this)
-both shows have a segment or the entire show dedicated to what's trendy and relevant to their audiences in that period of time
-both audiences cultivate a para social relationship with the hosts
But what's the difference ?
it's simply that the audience of the model would disappear and look for another model the moment she just stops, without (for the most part) asking why or what happened to her, the reason is they are not there for the Person, they don't care who she is why is she doing that, what's her story or any thing besides "ooo nice body, take money, do this next etc" if that is not objectification i don't know what is.
hope this is not too long for you xd
also i don't know if mufti reads the comments but if you happen to read this Mufti, again I'm sorry XD may Allah keep all of us smiling insha'allah.
@@smail6865 What I was saying that most actual professionals say that porn is only harmful when its abused to the point which it starts changing the way you look to sexuality and take it as a very reputable source to what you do in your sexual life. As for the objectification when you brought it up it sounded like you were saying it brought the issues with objectification. While my point was that porn does not teach people to be like that its a whole social stigma that is taught to "masculine" men. This is why toxic masculinity is so hated its because it promotes "masculine" ideas which never were and it does so to the expence of devalueing men's actual experiences and discrediting them as femnine or sissies. As for your comparing with mufti's show I fail to see how that makes a point at all my point was that averting your gaze meant in the context of looking at someones parts in person. Not for people you have no knowledge of. Let me adress your points to how similar adult actors are to mufti. 1st they porn stars dont take requests they do what is trending, 2 there is absolutely no parasocail relationship being developed between porn stars they're might be for cam stars but those are not popular at all. I dont know how thats supposed to say that looking at people who expose themselve on the internet is the same as looking at a normal person's private parts which is very inappropriate . All these problems you mentioned dont come from porn itself it comes with how society and toxic masculine voices have harmful impacts on young men's outlook on sex and porn.
@@qwite9309
"porn is only harmful when its abused to the point which it starts changing the way you look to sexuality"
but when does that start though ? the first video ? the 100th ? 100000th ? you know that most people who start watching porn start at a very early age, early even pre teen, wouldn't just a couple or a dozen videos be enough to influence, in a radical ways the views of someone in their late teens ? not to mention most people who started watching as children..
"While my point was that porn does not teach people to be like that its a whole social stigma that is taught to "masculine" men."
i think the biggest flaw in your reasoning when it comes to porn and toxic masculinity is that you separate them and treat them as individual concepts that are not related to one another, while there's a clear feedback loop between them..
"..averting your gaze meant in the context of looking at someones parts in person. Not for people you have no knowledge of..."
you separate the two because of porn objectifying the women being watched and reducing them only to bodies..
in other words the way you made that statement, you already reduced the women on the screen to only a products to satisfy a desire..and that is the problem with porn in a nutshell, people could easily apply that way of seeing others to real life, and yes they are sick but you could never say porn had nothing to do with that either.
"1st they porn stars dont take requests they do what is trending"
they do, at least cam girls absolutely do..also depending how you view markets you could say that trends are a kind of requests by the customers.
"2 there is absolutely no parasocial relationship being developed between porn stars they're might be for cam stars but those are not popular at all"
of course there is, like why are they popular? what is the purpose of focusing only on the women in action? and mostly filming from the males pov ?
"I dont know how thats supposed to say that looking at people who expose themselves on the internet is the same as looking at a normal person's private parts which is very inappropriate"
i don't know your religious background, but in Islam, a mark for morality and ethics depends on what is done in private, and what is not done even though you can get away with it..that is what one should focus on and evaluate privately for the most part, because you could never know or at least it's hard to know the reason why you don't do "evil" things...
a simple example would be.. did you not take advantage of so and so because you're afraid of other peoples reaction and being called names, or is it because you believe it's wrong?
Debate of next level, not for light hearted and small minded, Islam unleashed, respect to mufti and and shaykh kashif Khan
This is an outstanding episode, a real gem! Thank you so much for uncovering the rulings and opinions that have been hidden by the institutionalized Mafia.
May Allah preserve both of you.
JazakAllah Khairan.
MUFTI ABU LAYTH PLEASE PLEASE HAVE NOUMAN ALI KHAN ON YOUR MINDTRAP. PLEASE PLEASE
Told him that ... tht will be epic
I don't think He wants to get into any more trouble after coming out from a Huge one.
@@SalmanMoyeen
Sorry I do not understand what you mean.
@@SalmanMoyeen
What ever that was, it does not matter. I would love to see nouman ali khan have a discussion with mufti Abu layth.
@@aliditta7768 I would like to see him too. But the chances of that happening is very low.
Shaykh Kashif has now officially become a legend 😄
dyou have his fb page link unable to find it
@@abaanxperia i am trying to.find it too.. no luck:((
facebook.com/M.Kashif.K
@@nawab-e-trivandrum5526 it's not working
@@abaanxperia have you found it yet?
The only way I know of emerging out of fears is to risk taking courageous action, inspite of the presence of insecurity.
Very needed transparent discussion! 💯
Great podcast. Very informative.
Mufti, the dood patni chai joke was proper innit! I nearly dropped laughing. This was a classic i still go back to the old mind traps. May allah keep you smiling and blessed. Ya doing it!
So Shaykh around 43:00 when u are mentioning about how when aalims of today if they bring out any unconventional fatwas in todays time alot of ulma will declare of kufr.. but wasnt it the case in the time of salaf as well but Imaams like Abu hanifa still persevered and thats why people now appreciate the likes of him.. just an observation
Mufti how do I get a hold of you. This is for Mufti Abu Luyth
This is MIND blowing... Seriously! is this the real salafiya aqeedah? I am seriously considering to change my aqeedah LOL!
1.50.10 lol muftis laugh
🤣😂😂😂👍🏼
Link to Shaykh Kashif Khans facebook plz
you can find its in discription of this video.
Incredible disscussion....
MashaAllah, the sheikh is very knowledgeable, but he caught me off guard at 1:50:20!
It's my observation of human nature that whenever we convert to something, we become fanatical
The puritanical effect is proved by the fact that Sheikh Kashif can't laugh heartily
In fact, the more we can smile and laugh,the more we are in touch with the Divine.
First of all there is no contact prayer at all in deen. Secondly mosques were for other purposes. 3rdly All the Hadith you mentioned are made up to disgrace the prophet, companion and deen. Quran clearly specify for women how to veil themselves. How can companions of the prophet do otherwise by indulging in co ablution. Performing collective ablution will make the parts of body of women which are ordered by Allah almighty to be covered, gets exposed to be seen by men.
People like u encourage me to learn Islam... Love u Mufti Abu Layth
People are unnecessarily obsessed with topic of sex
I've seen people think that they are Gods because they just make assumptions at the drop of a hat and say it as if its absolute truth, as if they have divine knowledge,
But these two gentlemen have shown that we could have hope in scholarship. Mufti Abu Layth, you have proven your worth over and over again. Respect. This was the discussion of discussions.
Could anyone put up a link to shaykh kashif Facebook or insta am unable to find him
1:50:10
In al-Mughni it says that ahmad says mutah is haram, and then that there is another riwaayah from him indicating karaahah. Dont just mention one if you know about both, and if you dont know about both maybe you shouldnt be commenting on this.
Does anyone have a link to his fb page?
facebook.com/M.Kashif.K
May Allah guide this man and his followers.
Maybe the ones who need the most guidance are the ones who think they are already guided.
People need something to be triggered about. They need something to gossip about thats human nature.
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I would request mufti layth to...
Put the name of the RUclips channel,Facebook page or the link to any of the writings of Shaykh Kashif khan
Because he is just making claims ...and we don't even know if such things are actually written in the books of scholars...
So if we r able to know more about shaykh kashif khan it would be good
He gives references of books under his posts and the link is under description.
@@ahmedmohammad7300 but that Facebook link not working
The host's laughter is so annoying
May Allah guide them or break their backs and silence them
1:59:00
You are discussing the topic on how perhaps pornography could be the modern concubines. It seems as you believe that most men had concubines back in the day. It's a well known fast that they were mostly common among the elites.(all over the world). Most commoners ONLY had one wife. My question to you is what evidence do you have that this was a common practice among all layfolk?
Every now and then you people are quoting Hadith on controversial issues. Why discuss these useless issues in first place.