It occurred to me tonight that this song, written quite early on, is actually their epitaph. And perhaps a prediction...these two will likely talk again, but it will be a long, long time. The cord's not entirely cut, but it's been buried very deep indeed. "there's a note, underneath your front door that I wrote twenty years ago yellow paper and a faded picture and a secret, in an envelope. there's no reasons, no excuses, there's no secondhand alibis, just some black ink on some blue lines and a shadow you won't recognize. in the meantime, I'll be waiting, twenty years and twenty more, I'll be praying for redemption, and your note underneath my door"
+AndryFae21 No, they are married to other people. Something happened between them which led to their breakup as a band. They have never said what really happened in 2012, but they don´t even speak anymore.
Regardless of any rumor of these two having an affair, a physical one, these two for sure had to have an emotional one. You can’t be this good, be connected and have your audience feel it too without without having them feel it or feel something between them. If the phrase “making love” had a picture of what making music with someone you love and admire sounds like it, it would be a picture of these two.
@@angelinaungs1906 Funny, i don't get any narc vibes at all. 🤔 And i know what narcissism is, from painful personal experience of people with this disorder.
You can't have that sort of chemistry and not be in love with each other. They were deeply in love, knew it was wrong since they were both married....my God I miss them
In junior high/high school, I had a huge crush on this guy. He introduced me to The Civil Wars. I still think of him often, especially when I hear this song.
I want them back... watching this video makes me feel like crying because I remember going to see them and all the giddy-ness and just standing in awe at them. I would give anything to feel that again...
Again here in 2019...There is so much intensity in their chemistry.... Like the way she looks at him show the full level of love she is so intense... And the way he looks back that's so adorable ... They look great together... Wish they were still together... miss their music 😢
She loves him so much. It's extreamly beautiful how you can feel the love she feels for him through looking in her eyes. How she watches him. Its absolutely breath taking. I love you JOY and JOHN.
@@Highlikeheaven89 Yes it was which is why that they chose to not continue to work together. Joy divorced her husband in 2019 and she has two children. John is still happily married and has three children. BTW, Joy's husband was their manager and traveled with them most of the time.
I've heard and seen a lot of music in my life! 300s if not more of show from R&B, punk, hair bands classical and opera. I just love music. I prefer to listen to people who do their own works , which is what drew me to Joy and John . This is some of the most beautiful work ever composed! Here's food for thought for all those who purpose romantic connection. In all likely hood they in the physical world! They remained true to there respected mates Joy had a baby . john had children of his own ,But in spiritual world John and Joy's soul connected in a way so few people do and dream off. Or else this music couldn't have touch so many including their selves. and that is what's undeniable.
There's a note underneath your front door That I wrote twenty years ago Yellow paper and a faded picture And a secret, in an envelope There's no reasons No excuses There's no secondhand alibis Just some black ink, on some blue lines And a shadow, you won't recognize Mmm Mmm And if it means I'll be waiting twenty years And twenty more I'll be praying for redemption And your note, underneath my door And your note underneath my door
Listening to this song in 2020 and hoping that in twelve years, these two will fall in love again. I know they were both married to other people, but sometimes, you meet the person you're meant for when you're with someone else. Love like this is magical.
its 2019. i want the unfiltered truth of why this ended. i was in love with this duo when they were around (maybe as much as they were with each other?)
The problem is the majority won't believe until they are told what they want to hear. Of course, everyone is speculating that these two had an affair, at least an emotional one, but I hope you don't expect them to come forward with this sort of personal information? Especially when both parties have children with their significant others?
If Joy and John Paul weren't totally in love with each other then they're the greatest actors on earth. The way they interacted, looked at each other, sang what they sang, AND the way it ended - all pointed to two people who were in love. It was obvious though they tried to deny/deflect it. The eyes don't lie. (They're interaction reminded me a lot of Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks of Fleetwood Mac.) And JP has toured a lot since TCW broke up so that can't be it. They were totally in love but the problem was both were already married. When circumstances prevent two people from getting together it can actually create a lot of anger and animosity making it impossible to continue working together. It's really a shame b/c those two were musical magic.
@@IvanLendl87 Well, they are performers on stage... We don't question when two people in theatre or movies believably play lovers. It's easy to feel chemistry between Joy and John because they play very emotional, heartfelt music. I don't think it would be very unbelievable to think that there was absolutely nothing going on and they really just acted on stage to make their music more impactful. They do look like a cute couple and they made fantastic music together, there's no argument here. But there is absolutely no reason to believe that the chemistry and flirty behavior continued off the stage. On the other hand, its very, very odd that after winning Grammys, the pair decided to part ways. If this was just about work, maybe they would have collaborated at least for some time more. I don't know.
I've come to only appreciate artists that have clever or witty or beautifully written words in their music, and often times I'm willing to negotiate a mediocre voice, melody or beat for that reason. I'm happy to say I didn't have to do any negotiating. This performance was impeccable. Everything was perfection, from their harmonies to their beautiful lyrics. And the both of them being strikingly attractive did not hurt that at all. What more could I ask for?
So special, that was not chemistry, it was pure God given. I respect both of them to honor their marriages. But, being selfish, I so wish they were together. Heavenly...thank you and I am so pleased they are both excelling independent of each other.
This is a petition to The Civil Wars: Please, please, please! Make ONE more song together! We love your music and we miss hearing you guys play! Please, just one more song, I won't ask for anything ever again! Like this comment if anyone agrees!!
Nothing more descriptive of what magic the human voice can be WITHOUT anything more than their voices & a guitar...No computers, no one telling them to fix anything or change anything...the perfection is naturally aided by soul. Drift off for a moment ...THIS is exactly what I picture nightly campfires to have been years in the past. Our souls yearn for this in many different cultures. The artists may find this to be corny as well as others...But perhaps its why so many respond to this.
After John Paul's Grammy 2014 speech, I'm pretty sure they're done. So much tension and hate has been built up. This is a tragedy. This will be one of my favorite songs and one of my favourite videos of the pair.
I feel that "rift" has been badly misinterpreted; he could have made that speech with Joy by his side and we wouldn't have thought twice about it. We of course can't know from the outside, so this is just my opinion. I do hope they reconnect... in 2 years, 5 years, 10 years, whatever it takes. They are not fools. They know what they have.
Howard Parks if they DONT reconnect in some way in the next 5 to ten years ill be really shocked. But if fleetwood mac did it I dont see why someday they wouldnt.
How beautifully you captured the twenty or so years I waited for my love who has came and is now gone... I only need this song to take me there again. Thank you from the bottom of my ❤
So this has special meaning bc my husband and I grew up together and had a brief romantic encounter, and then 20 years later, we reunited, and the rest is history. I hope we live to have 20 more.
This is like reliving a deepened heart break for me and very much interprets what its like to lose the one you love so immensely that no matter how deeply you berry the past it will remain living in your heart. I do hope they meet again in life....
This is one of my favorites. sing along every time. Being on here..hearing their music now.....just makes my heart break, knowing that they are not together......... I hope they see past their differences soon, so everyone can be happy again......love you two....
this just proves to me that you don't have to be in love with someone for them to be your soulmate. Clearly these two voices were meant for each other, these people were meant to come together, there's something about them both vocally and personally that's really compatible, even if they aren't "together."
I enjoy watching this more than the music videos. I love seeing you two singing together. you mesh perfectly and it is amazing how into the music you two get. Love it. You guys are amazing!
I guess folks will keep on believing what they want to believe about these co-writers of such awesome and beautiful music. If it warms your little hearts to think that JPW and JW had some torrid affair, nothing is going to stop y'all. I happen to think Joy was being honest when she told an interviewer that their connection was not of a romantic nature, but it was just as deep. When two songwriters who work together so closely also perform together, they often feel a connection so strong it's a high like no other. They do have a connection to the music and each other while they're singing together, that's as intense as if they were engaged in a passionate affair and that is just as real. But, it seems, only another musician would understand that. If they had ever shared tender feelings, I don't think they would *still* have hard feelings on either side. Maybe for a while, if someone got really hurt, but not a years- long deep freeze. I believe it was irreconcilable professional differences. But if that is the case, there's always a chance that way down the road one of them will have a change of heart, say, in "another 10 or 12 years, maybe longer..."
Please please please please please please come to INDIA....I will die for your Music guys........I found you couple of days back and You have changed so much.....I have never seen angels but I surely have seen them singing...and they are you both...
Hes in love with her voice. Not her. He leans into it while she leans into him. It's evident how she feels. They're soul mates, but not the forever kind. Sometimes we make beautiful music with people but still have to let them go. We aren't meant for everyone we'll love and will love us. They're music is bittersweet because that's exactly what they are. This could be their last reunion. Or maybe another will happen in 20 years. Or perhaps another lifetime. Their music, though, will forever be an ode to an unforgettable connection.
You may be onto something. Joy was always much more sensual in their performances, and while it might have been driven by the songs rather than John, it was still interesting to witness the contrast of her emotion versus John's somewhat cold shoulder. John was very hard to read in their performances.. It was like he was restraining himself from showing Joy affection. It really added layers to their vibe on the stage. Their music was bittersweet and their live performances were the epithomy of unrequited love.
Sometimes the reunion of magic such as this is inevitable, in spite of whatever discord exists on the personal front. I look forward to such inevitability. (:
When musicians make a lot of eye contact while singing I always feel like I'm watching something very intimate and private. It's so charged.
Something in their eyes and I don’t even have words for that
Can you imagine being his wife in the audience? Because she often was.
Dear Civil Wars,
I miss you. I love you.
Kate Chamomile 😢😢😢😢
Musical soul mates... Didn't know it was possible before I heard these two.
Jewel Segulah Leah Green 💔
Gillian Welch and David Rawlings are the same way. Musical soulmates for sure.
Civil Wars. R.I.P. 😔
I definitely agree they are musical soul mates❤️
I felt the same the first time I heard them.
2022 and I still miss them ♥️
2024, so sad.
I miss this duo so much. They were so amazing together.
I just came back to watch them look at each other because oh i am in love with that !
+Fareeha Mahmood yup, me too...there´s just so much love there...absolutely beautiful! =)
The air around them's so intimate whenever they sing together that I feel like I shouldn't be watching.
There's really no denying that their chemistry is insane! :)
Was*
i love how expressive she is when she sings
the way she looks at him.... ill never get over it
It occurred to me tonight that this song, written quite early on, is actually their epitaph. And perhaps a prediction...these two will likely talk again, but it will be a long, long time. The cord's not entirely cut, but it's been buried very deep indeed.
"there's a note, underneath your front door
that I wrote twenty years ago
yellow paper and a faded picture
and a secret, in an envelope.
there's no reasons, no excuses,
there's no secondhand alibis,
just some black ink on some blue lines
and a shadow you won't recognize.
in the meantime, I'll be waiting,
twenty years and twenty more,
I'll be praying for redemption,
and your note underneath my door"
***** U made me cry
***** Beautifully written! I hope they will reunite when the right time comes.
+pridden76 what happened to them? They were married?
+AndryFae21 No, they are married to other people. Something happened between them which led to their breakup as a band. They have never said what really happened in 2012, but they don´t even speak anymore.
idk but that gives me hope for my own fucking life...
It’s already been 10 years ..I still somehow hope or wish that in ten years time Joy or John would find that “envelope underneath their door..”
Well said. So do I.
😭
Boy ! She really does have a beautiful voice!.
Regardless of any rumor of these two having an affair, a physical one, these two for sure had to have an emotional one. You can’t be this good, be connected and have your audience feel it too without without having them feel it or feel something between them. If the phrase “making love” had a picture of what making music with someone you love and admire sounds like it, it would be a picture of these two.
He is a classic narcissist and you can see her trying to please him. Toxic relationship sadly, that produced the most incredible music.
@@angelinaungs1906 Can you explain how he was a narcissist?
@@angelinaungs1906 Funny, i don't get any narc vibes at all. 🤔
And i know what narcissism is, from painful personal experience of people with this disorder.
She just pulled that out of her ass. It’s usually always narcissists pointing fingers on social media anyway. They have no self awareness.
Can you blame him, she is beautiful and has such a great voice
You can't have that sort of chemistry and not be in love with each other. They were deeply in love, knew it was wrong since they were both married....my God I miss them
In junior high/high school, I had a huge crush on this guy. He introduced me to The Civil Wars. I still think of him often, especially when I hear this song.
They sing together as if they are characters in a musical, telling a story with their bodies, not just the music. Very beautiful.
I want them back... watching this video makes me feel like crying because I remember going to see them and all the giddy-ness and just standing in awe at them. I would give anything to feel that again...
Again here in 2019...There is so much intensity in their chemistry.... Like the way she looks at him show the full level of love she is so intense... And the way he looks back that's so adorable ... They look great together... Wish they were still together... miss their music 😢
Not in my entire musical lifetime have I seen something like this. It's just magic. Pure and simple.
She loves him so much. It's extreamly beautiful how you can feel the love she feels for him through looking in her eyes. How she watches him. Its absolutely breath taking. I love you JOY and JOHN.
It's a shame they have different significant others.
@@jackneale1057 It was a bit tragic when I found out they were just friends lol, but their platonic love and passion is still intense!
@@Highlikeheaven89 Yes it was which is why that they chose to not continue to work together. Joy divorced her husband in 2019 and she has two children. John is still happily married and has three children. BTW, Joy's husband was their manager and traveled with them most of the time.
@@marciathomason4815 Joy Williams tends to be sensual and a bit flirty when she performs music anyway.
1 agree. She absolutely adores him
oh the way she looks at him! :)
idk how she continued after that. I'd be fucking dead.
ikr.. ;\ They belong together. They should at least do more songs together.
They're both married.
I've heard and seen a lot of music in my life! 300s if not more of show from R&B, punk, hair bands classical and opera. I just love music. I prefer to listen to people who do their own works , which is what drew me to Joy and John . This is some of the most beautiful work ever composed! Here's food for thought for all those who purpose romantic connection. In all likely hood they in the physical world! They remained true to there respected mates Joy had a baby . john had children of his own ,But in spiritual world John and Joy's soul connected in a way so few people do and dream off. Or else this music couldn't have touch so many including their selves. and that is what's undeniable.
There's a note underneath your front door
That I wrote twenty years ago
Yellow paper and a faded picture
And a secret, in an envelope
There's no reasons
No excuses
There's no secondhand alibis
Just some black ink, on some blue lines
And a shadow, you won't recognize
Mmm
Mmm
And if it means I'll be waiting twenty years
And twenty more
I'll be praying for redemption
And your note, underneath my door
And your note underneath my door
Listening to this song in 2020 and hoping that in twelve years, these two will fall in love again. I know they were both married to other people, but sometimes, you meet the person you're meant for when you're with someone else. Love like this is magical.
This will always be in my top 5 fav songs of all time
I always come back to this video to feel something.
This is my favourite pass time these days. Watching their videos from way back...
In 20 Years i want to remember how they look at each other
its 2019. i want the unfiltered truth of why this ended. i was in love with this duo when they were around (maybe as much as they were with each other?)
That's why it ended, to many made up rumors!
From what I’ve read, they wanted different things for the band. JP wanted to slow down while Joy wanted to do more touring.
The problem is the majority won't believe until they are told what they want to hear.
Of course, everyone is speculating that these two had an affair, at least an emotional one, but I hope you don't expect them to come forward with this sort of personal information? Especially when both parties have children with their significant others?
If Joy and John Paul weren't totally in love with each other then they're the greatest actors on earth. The way they interacted, looked at each other, sang what they sang, AND the way it ended - all pointed to two people who were in love. It was obvious though they tried to deny/deflect it. The eyes don't lie. (They're interaction reminded me a lot of Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks of Fleetwood Mac.) And JP has toured a lot since TCW broke up so that can't be it. They were totally in love but the problem was both were already married. When circumstances prevent two people from getting together it can actually create a lot of anger and animosity making it impossible to continue working together. It's really a shame b/c those two were musical magic.
@@IvanLendl87 Well, they are performers on stage... We don't question when two people in theatre or movies believably play lovers. It's easy to feel chemistry between Joy and John because they play very emotional, heartfelt music. I don't think it would be very unbelievable to think that there was absolutely nothing going on and they really just acted on stage to make their music more impactful.
They do look like a cute couple and they made fantastic music together, there's no argument here. But there is absolutely no reason to believe that the chemistry and flirty behavior continued off the stage.
On the other hand, its very, very odd that after winning Grammys, the pair decided to part ways. If this was just about work, maybe they would have collaborated at least for some time more. I don't know.
I've come to only appreciate artists that have clever or witty or beautifully written words in their music, and often times I'm willing to negotiate a mediocre voice, melody or beat for that reason. I'm happy to say I didn't have to do any negotiating. This performance was impeccable. Everything was perfection, from their harmonies to their beautiful lyrics. And the both of them being strikingly attractive did not hurt that at all. What more could I ask for?
Good God!! Their voices were made for one another...! So perfect together!
Best group of all time. Love their music.
I miss them. So bad. Their music felt like magic, and so was their chemistry..
I Love this song. I cant stop listen to there music. I hope they reunite.
So special, that was not chemistry, it was pure God given. I respect both of them to honor their marriages. But, being selfish, I so wish they were together. Heavenly...thank you and I am so pleased they are both excelling independent of each other.
I miss you so much in this 2019.
This is a petition to The Civil Wars:
Please, please, please! Make ONE more song together! We love your music and we miss hearing you guys play! Please, just one more song, I won't ask for anything ever again!
Like this comment if anyone agrees!!
They don't even speak anymore...so sad :(
How selfish
As much as their music conjured magic, they had promises to keep.
that guitar playing.... i could listen to that all day!!!
Back here many years later
The way he looks at her...the way she looks at him, it's so beautiful.
2022 and it still breaks my heart that they broke up 😢 miss them
Nothing more descriptive of what magic the human voice can be WITHOUT anything more than their voices & a guitar...No computers, no one telling them to fix anything or change anything...the perfection is naturally aided by soul.
Drift off for a moment ...THIS is exactly what I picture nightly campfires to have been years in the past. Our souls yearn for this in many different cultures. The artists may find this to be corny as well as others...But perhaps its why so many respond to this.
One Of My Favourite songs from Them Is From This Valley ...👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
this is one of my favorite bands!!!!!!!!!
Perfection. I am thankful that their music came to be, if only for a short time.
After John Paul's Grammy 2014 speech, I'm pretty sure they're done. So much tension and hate has been built up. This is a tragedy. This will be one of my favorite songs and one of my favourite videos of the pair.
I feel that "rift" has been badly misinterpreted; he could have made that speech with Joy by his side and we wouldn't have thought twice about it. We of course can't know from the outside, so this is just my opinion. I do hope they reconnect... in 2 years, 5 years, 10 years, whatever it takes. They are not fools. They know what they have.
Howard Parks if they DONT reconnect in some way in the next 5 to ten years ill be really shocked. But if fleetwood mac did it I dont see why someday they wouldnt.
Her voice is unreal. It stirs my soul, now THAT's natural talent.
You have added to the beauty of life and this will stand for eternity.
how can they not be in love with each other after making such lovely music like this? i don't get it.
What a great song. What a great performance.
She is the most beautiful singer in the music industry right now
This is one of the most beautiful songs I've ever heard.
I love this music they meet me into the heart❤could listen forever ,its very beautiful,to bad i see civil wars never live
This song gives me chills.♥ their chemistry is so strong and the way she looks at him is just ahh indescribable!
took them for granted when I was introduced to their songs by a friend some time ago. :(
Thanks Civil wars for all the great and special music. I wish you well for the rest of your lives
They make beautiful music together.
Effortlessly beautiful...
How beautifully you captured the twenty or so years I waited for my love who has came and is now gone... I only need this song to take me there again. Thank you from the bottom of my ❤
So this has special meaning bc my husband and I grew up together and had a brief romantic encounter, and then 20 years later, we reunited, and the rest is history. I hope we live to have 20 more.
omg I JUST GOT THE CD ALBUM I LOVE IT THIS SONG HAS A HAUNTING MELODY AND I AM IN LOVE WITH THE CIVIL WARS... WONDERFUL FOLK MUSIC
This Song is my soul! Wunderfull.... thanks from bavaria
my favorite Civil Wars song...may be my favorite song ever!
2024 Hoping one day for a reunion tour + to seem them live. :)
This is like reliving a deepened heart break for me and very much interprets what its like to lose the one you love so immensely that no matter how deeply you berry the past it will remain living in your heart. I do hope they meet again in life....
2023 and missing them more than ever after hearing them on Taylor Swift’s re-recording of Safe & Sound ❤️💔
How absolutely beautiful. This performance, this song, these two - perfection.
This is one of my favorites. sing along every time. Being on here..hearing their music now.....just makes my heart break, knowing that they are not together......... I hope they see past their differences soon, so everyone can be happy again......love you two....
Soo miss these two creating as one......
Since I have discovered their voices, I just fell in love with their musics.. They match perfectly together!
this just proves to me that you don't have to be in love with someone for them to be your soulmate. Clearly these two voices were meant for each other, these people were meant to come together, there's something about them both vocally and personally that's really compatible, even if they aren't "together."
I enjoy watching this more than the music videos. I love seeing you two singing together. you mesh perfectly and it is amazing how into the music you two get. Love it. You guys are amazing!
Everyone me and my beautiful love will be 20 years happily Inlove!❤️ 07-05-02
omg i love them.... their voices are so powerful yet so gentle!!!! only band i would pay to see in concert!!!
I guess folks will keep on believing what they want to believe about these co-writers of such awesome and beautiful music. If it warms your little hearts to think that JPW and JW had some torrid affair, nothing is going to stop y'all. I happen to think Joy was being honest when she told an interviewer that their connection was not of a romantic nature, but it was just as deep. When two songwriters who work together so closely also perform together, they often feel a connection so strong it's a high like no other. They do have a connection to the music and each other while they're singing together, that's as intense as if they were engaged in a passionate affair and that is just as real. But, it seems, only another musician would understand that. If they had ever shared tender feelings, I don't think they would *still* have hard feelings on either side. Maybe for a while, if someone got really hurt, but not a years- long deep freeze. I believe it was irreconcilable professional differences. But if that is the case, there's always a chance that way down the road one of them will have a change of heart, say, in "another 10 or 12 years, maybe longer..."
I love this song. If you've not seen them live, I suggest you find a date they're coming to your city and GOOOO!!!
Please please please please please please come to INDIA....I will die for your Music guys........I found you couple of days back and You have changed so much.....I have never seen angels but I surely have seen them singing...and they are you both...
I love the way they look at each other.
God they are so good together. Soul soothing.
The absolute favorite version of my favorite Civil Wars song. This is indeed a masterpiece of writing, harmonies, and emotion. AMAZING!!!
OH my god. They are so amazing.
they are so beautiful, talented and deep I wanna hug them forever
New favorite Civil Wars song
How could they not fall in love with each other?!
this is the life I want travel with my good looking man and his guitar and sing til I melt faces they are so lucky
These 2 are so talented and Joy is so beautiful
Hes in love with her voice. Not her. He leans into it while she leans into him. It's evident how she feels. They're soul mates, but not the forever kind. Sometimes we make beautiful music with people but still have to let them go. We aren't meant for everyone we'll love and will love us. They're music is bittersweet because that's exactly what they are. This could be their last reunion. Or maybe another will happen in 20 years.
Or perhaps another lifetime. Their music, though, will forever be an ode to an unforgettable connection.
You may be onto something. Joy was always much more sensual in their performances, and while it might have been driven by the songs rather than John, it was still interesting to witness the contrast of her emotion versus John's somewhat cold shoulder. John was very hard to read in their performances.. It was like he was restraining himself from showing Joy affection. It really added layers to their vibe on the stage. Their music was bittersweet and their live performances were the epithomy of unrequited love.
i love watching them! joy always performs like shes trippin out or something! so hypnotic!
This makes me so sad that they couldn't work out whatever problems they had. Going to miss hearing new music from them :(
This is absolutely breathtaking...
Love to watch how she's singing to him.
Simplesmente Maravilhosa (simply beautifull)
How can such a talented duo split up? I can't imagine not hearing new music from them
I always feel that i'm intruding when I watch them!
This version is even better than the album or Eddie's Attic versions - which are great!
magnifique, great job, full of emotion... from France
for my next film, I will use this song for music
Your chemistry electrifies this song...
Sometimes the reunion of magic such as this is inevitable, in spite of whatever discord exists on the personal front. I look forward to such inevitability. (:
She's seriously one of the sexiest singers i've ever seen. Just the emotion she puts into it. GRRRRR