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I appreciate you describing what you’re hearing. A lot of times you just say that sounded great or something to that effect. For those of us who don’t have your ear I find it helps to define what we’re hearing. That said I always take others opinions with a grain of salt and realize this is like fine wine. You either like it or you don’t.
The Creamback M (65 watts) has been my go-to lately, juicy with a bit of presence rolled off. Those looking to not change quite as much from the V30 may like the Creamback H. I wish, wish, WISH the Lynchback was still made!!!
I know it’s coming but just so happy the first post from SDS wasn’t the NanoCortex today. Awesome content John - the OwnHammer V30 1999A rock box is legit the best IR I’ve ever used
I don't use IRs but it's still the reason why i keep my old straight non-Pro Engl 4x12 which is sitting unused in my living room. It has these V60 speakers which i played a lot when i was younger and couldn't afford V30s. But now it's my only 12" cab with something different than V30, i want to mix them with some of the V30s in my other cabs when i got time for that. Well, and i'm also keeping it because i need it when i want to show off with an all Engl fullstack.
Amazing video as usual Jon!! 🎉 V30s deserve their spot in the guitar speaker hall of fame (it's a real thing trust me!) but I find it strange that while guitarists want to try out so many different amps they're scared to try other speakers which ultimately will make a much bigger difference in tone.
I had a 4-12" cabinet with 2 Mojotone BV-30V 60 watt speakers and 2 Celestion V-type speakers in there and it sounded amazing with high gain..the Mojotones were their version of the V30's and they costs a lot less back then 5-6 years ago.
Great tones and video as slways... Still waiting on a video about the Two-Notes Opus with some of your awesomely shaped Metal tones! 🤘🏻😎 Greetings from Germany!
My favorite combo and a Redback and Creamback 75 in a 212. I just recently got the Creamback and the best combo with it so far. The Redback is my favorite speakers I’ve had and I’ve had quite a few different speakers. Definitely don’t care for v30s much by themselves but ok with a Creamback 65 or Greenback
To be honest. I have been all over the place with IR's, and I have recently come back to v30's. I spent like a year with an EVH IR. V30's just work in the mix. They do not sound pretty by themselves, but in a mix is a different thing, which to me is where it matters the most. I truly tried to distance myself from v30's as EVERYONE uses them but I guess there is a good reason for it, oh well.
Mojotone BV-30V - Great and a few bucks cheaper. My favorite combo is Vintage 30 (top - you MUST break these in) and Creamback 75 (bottom) 2x12 closed cabinet. It's very versatile. When I want to record cleans I personally mic up the Creamback and when I want rock tones I mic up both and mix to my liking in the box.
I have really been into the green and creamback speakers. But hearing this, I might have a go at the lynchback... I have a mix currently going on where I am fighting that high end fizz, so that might just do the trick!
The thing I love about the V30 that nothing else I've heard does, is it gives you a kind of warmer tone with the highs and bite of high gain being subdued and kept in check. Every other speaker I've ever heard has so much more bite that doesn't suit what I do so much. If you were trying to sound super brutal, then more bite could suit you, but I do a funk metal hybrid and it's just not that kind of super brutal metal.
I think the Creamback H and the DV-77 are my two favorite speakers at the moment. The Mojotones are great and I love my WGS Reaper as well. Sooo many flavors.
I was once a V30-only guy, but ive latelly tried a bunch of speakers and some i actually prefer to the V30, honorable mentions go to the Eminence Governor, Celestion M65 Creamback and EVM12L, the V30 is the sm57 of speakers, good, safe and industry standard but there's always something out there that might suit your ears better if you can/want to put the effort and actually try different things.
I am stuck on Celestion G12K-85's. Been using them for years. I have a couple of cabs with V30's and Greenbacks 25's that I like but the G12K-85's are my home.
The different characteristics of the different speakers may be better/more suitable depending on context and taste, HOWEVER, I don't think they'll match the greatness of the V30.
I absolutely love the Lynchback. It’s a go to of mine. I use the Ownhammer Rockbox Lynchback IR all the time. As far as v30s go, I really really like the 8ohm Mesa boogie version the best. It really smooths out some of those harsh frequencies that people complain about with the typical v30 but still retains what makes it great and work well in a mix. It just works so well in most situations or song mixes.
I really like the Hesu Demon more than the V30 in this demo. It sounded a bit more polished and versatile. As you said you still can’t go wrong with the V-30.
At the beginning I had 2 V30 and 2 greenback 25 W in an old marshall 4*12 ... I bought an Electrovoice EVM 12L 300W black label (Zakk wylde signature) >>> completely blown away by the clarity of this thing you can play all you want : metal , hard rock , blues ...... V30 are pure shit honestly ,too fizzy !! I'm still searching of what speaker to mix with my EVM12L . In your video the lynch 50 and after the hesu damon sounded the best for me .
Got the same problem. Im gonna try to mix the ev zw with alnico cream, or Jensen. I have to say the ev sounds not bad with a v30. Got an oversized laboga 2x12 cabinet. Have fun searching
I have creamback, greenback, V-Type, and a Splawn 55W Small Block in addition to V30s. I move them around into a Mesa 2x12 and a Peavey 1x12; as well as a Splawn Street Rod combo amp. The Splawn speaker made by Eminence and it kicks ass.
I think that is the beauty of the V30. In a band setting and in the mix it just cuts. I don’t play in a band and I don’t record so I’m going for the flavor in my ears at the moment. You stated exactly what makes them so good.
First things first. You have to verify that the v30 IR sounds identical to the actual v30 cab. We heard digital simulations of various speakers. We have NO IDEA how close they sound to the actual thing. We need at least one of them to be compared to an actual cab for frame of reference. The video is otherwise pointless and just serves it's various commercial purposes.
ML Sound Lab IRs: ml-sound-lab.com/pages/ir
Thomann Affiliate: www.thomann.de/intl/index.html?offid=1&affid=3210
Sweetwater Affiliate: sweetwater.sjv.io/k0mGvx
My personal Thomann recommendations: thmn.to/thocf/cv37zixo68
My webstore for Captures, presets etc: ko-fi.com/sonicdrivestudio
I appreciate you describing what you’re hearing. A lot of times you just say that sounded great or something to that effect. For those of us who don’t have your ear I find it helps to define what we’re hearing. That said I always take others opinions with a grain of salt and realize this is like fine wine. You either like it or you don’t.
The Creamback M (65 watts) has been my go-to lately, juicy with a bit of presence rolled off. Those looking to not change quite as much from the V30 may like the Creamback H.
I wish, wish, WISH the Lynchback was still made!!!
I hated my newer v30. Swapped for a cream back about 5 years ago and love it. Best parts of the green back and v30.
@@Manley156
That's the best way to describe it!!!
I love the H. I’m gonna have to try the Lynchback.
I have the h and m cream back in a 212 absolute 🔥
Had to immediately grab that Hesu, sounded great.
Oh man, seeing and hearing Helix Native with ML stuff just put a big smile on my face :)
I got the dv77 paired up with a v30 in my 2x12 and love it.
I as well. One of the best combo’s out there.
I know it’s coming but just so happy the first post from SDS wasn’t the NanoCortex today. Awesome content John - the OwnHammer V30 1999A rock box is legit the best IR I’ve ever used
Instead of the nanocortex advertisement you were expecting, you got an ML Sound Labs™ advertisement.
I really like the Celestion H30 and the Eminence Texas Heat. The Texas Heat sounds especially good with the 50w EVH 5153.
I don't use IRs but it's still the reason why i keep my old straight non-Pro Engl 4x12 which is sitting unused in my living room. It has these V60 speakers which i played a lot when i was younger and couldn't afford V30s. But now it's my only 12" cab with something different than V30, i want to mix them with some of the V30s in my other cabs when i got time for that.
Well, and i'm also keeping it because i need it when i want to show off with an all Engl fullstack.
Amazing video as usual Jon!! 🎉 V30s deserve their spot in the guitar speaker hall of fame (it's a real thing trust me!) but I find it strange that while guitarists want to try out so many different amps they're scared to try other speakers which ultimately will make a much bigger difference in tone.
Definitely is! Eminence, wgs, hesu, mojotone all makes a great line of speakers that aren't v30.
Also Jensen and ElectroVoice.
I had a 4-12" cabinet with 2 Mojotone BV-30V 60 watt speakers and 2 Celestion V-type speakers in there and it sounded amazing with high gain..the Mojotones were their version of the V30's and they costs a lot less back then 5-6 years ago.
@rosskrause3926 I've got a vader 4x12 loaded with eminence swamp things and it's a beast!! I prefer it over my randall 4x12 with v30s
True. Mojotones Greyhounds are damn great! So underrated!
Creambacks replaced my v30s
Great tones and video as slways... Still waiting on a video about the Two-Notes Opus with some of your awesomely shaped Metal tones! 🤘🏻😎 Greetings from Germany!
My favorite combo and a Redback and Creamback 75 in a 212. I just recently got the Creamback and the best combo with it so far. The Redback is my favorite speakers I’ve had and I’ve had quite a few different speakers. Definitely don’t care for v30s much by themselves but ok with a Creamback 65 or Greenback
Gonna have to try a Redback.
To be honest. I have been all over the place with IR's, and I have recently come back to v30's. I spent like a year with an EVH IR. V30's just work in the mix. They do not sound pretty by themselves, but in a mix is a different thing, which to me is where it matters the most. I truly tried to distance myself from v30's as EVERYONE uses them but I guess there is a good reason for it, oh well.
You’re 100% correct.
Came to the comments to essentially write this exact sentiment lol
I actually liked V30 much more than any of them :-) classic for a reason
Mojotone BV-30V - Great and a few bucks cheaper. My favorite combo is Vintage 30 (top - you MUST break these in) and Creamback 75 (bottom) 2x12 closed cabinet. It's very versatile. When I want to record cleans I personally mic up the Creamback and when I want rock tones I mic up both and mix to my liking in the box.
I have really been into the green and creamback speakers. But hearing this, I might have a go at the lynchback... I have a mix currently going on where I am fighting that high end fizz, so that might just do the trick!
The thing I love about the V30 that nothing else I've heard does, is it gives you a kind of warmer tone with the highs and bite of high gain being subdued and kept in check. Every other speaker I've ever heard has so much more bite that doesn't suit what I do so much. If you were trying to sound super brutal, then more bite could suit you, but I do a funk metal hybrid and it's just not that kind of super brutal metal.
I am into the creamback 65’s and would likely buy Mojotone or the creamback 75’s next
I think the Creamback H and the DV-77 are my two favorite speakers at the moment. The Mojotones are great and I love my WGS Reaper as well. Sooo many flavors.
I was once a V30-only guy, but ive latelly tried a bunch of speakers and some i actually prefer to the V30, honorable mentions go to the Eminence Governor, Celestion M65 Creamback and EVM12L, the V30 is the sm57 of speakers, good, safe and industry standard but there's always something out there that might suit your ears better if you can/want to put the effort and actually try different things.
LESS Non-8string content -> More M8M content!!!!
Tip for a punchy cab...try some 10" drivers.
I'm sick of V30's.
Also give a 15" a whirl for something different.
Most modern tones are shit.
I am stuck on Celestion G12K-85's. Been using them for years. I have a couple of cabs with V30's and Greenbacks 25's that I like but the G12K-85's are my home.
I like my WGS Retro 30 but i got another cab now so i'm looking for something with upper mids. I think i might get some Weber Gray Wolfs.
The different characteristics of the different speakers may be better/more suitable depending on context and taste,
HOWEVER, I don't think they'll match the greatness of the V30.
I absolutely love the Lynchback. It’s a go to of mine. I use the Ownhammer Rockbox Lynchback IR all the time. As far as v30s go, I really really like the 8ohm Mesa boogie version the best. It really smooths out some of those harsh frequencies that people complain about with the typical v30 but still retains what makes it great and work well in a mix. It just works so well in most situations or song mixes.
I really like the Hesu Demon more than the V30 in this demo. It sounded a bit more polished and versatile. As you said you still can’t go wrong with the V-30.
Good stuff! I like the Demon here quite a bit . Been on a speaker exploration lately so gonna pick these up :D
the evh celestion is my favorite. would like to see if a hesu can do cleans well though
Greenback, Creamback M & H, Redbacks are all fantastic speakers
What about Fane Speaker?
You should probably put something about IR in the title.
WGS Veteran 30 is the other best alternative to Vintage 30!
I also love how they fixed the harshness of the V30.
WGS in general makes good stuff. All the demos I've heard of the WGS Reaper make me hope for more IR's of that speaker. The Vt30 is great though. :D
I’ve always preferred greenbacks
I'd love to hear the Andro 64 in a metal context to see how versatile it is
At the beginning I had 2 V30 and 2 greenback 25 W in an old marshall 4*12 ... I bought an Electrovoice EVM 12L 300W black label (Zakk wylde signature) >>> completely blown away by the clarity of this thing you can play all you want : metal , hard rock , blues ...... V30 are pure shit honestly ,too fizzy !! I'm still searching of what speaker to mix with my EVM12L . In your video the lynch 50 and after the hesu damon sounded the best for me .
Got the same problem. Im gonna try to mix the ev zw with alnico cream, or Jensen. I have to say the ev sounds not bad with a v30. Got an oversized laboga 2x12 cabinet. Have fun searching
Is there a life beyond the IRs? While obviously they are super useful, a thina that it is something too often taken for granted
Love IRs!
Agreed
try the wgs retro 30
I have creamback, greenback, V-Type, and a Splawn 55W Small Block in addition to V30s. I move them around into a Mesa 2x12 and a Peavey 1x12; as well as a Splawn Street Rod combo amp. The Splawn speaker made by Eminence and it kicks ass.
All the others are warmer and the v30 has an upper mid bunp that i sort of dont like.
I think the ithers sit in a mix better
Of the new 3 I think Demon sounded best
all sound really good, no doubt about it.
The v 60 is also nice
I’ve tried many, many, and always come back to the V30, especially in a live setting. Nothing slices like a V30.
I think that is the beauty of the V30. In a band setting and in the mix it just cuts. I don’t play in a band and I don’t record so I’m going for the flavor in my ears at the moment. You stated exactly what makes them so good.
Everyone hopping on the Glen Fricker train.
@@Scorpion.S550 apart from Seymour Duncan 😄
If it ain't broke, don't fix it 😊
First things first. You have to verify that the v30 IR sounds identical to the actual v30 cab.
We heard digital simulations of various speakers. We have NO IDEA how close they sound to the actual thing. We need at least one of them to be compared to an actual cab for frame of reference.
The video is otherwise pointless and just serves it's various commercial purposes.
The Djent 30 (V30) IRs sound exactly like the speaker. They are unprocessed