I've watched a bunch of the vids on using this system. I've ordered and received mine. There are vids which addrees how to avoid potential problems.. One of the tips is to set your triangles from the mid point of your top and work outward from there, not from the outside inward. Apparently it is in the written instructions to improve accuracy. Don't ask me why, but apparently it is a thing that some machinists have also confirmed makes things more accurate.
an incredible tool that really works very well, Peter Parfitt its creator really is a genius, admiration for him and also for you sedge, great work! thanks
I wasn't sure about it when I first bought it. However after my first couple of benches it's amazing. Its allowed me to help out friends and also try out other ideas like extension wings etc. Even though its expensive you'll make your money back after two benches - HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!
Great demonstration, Brian! I made my MFT-style workbench/assembly table four years ago using the MK2 version and it was much easier than I thought it would be. I did see some blowout on the bottom of the Valchromat because I didn't use a backer board...lesson learned. This means I can't flip the worktop over when the first side is too abused, but after four years of nearly daily use, it is still in great condition.
Hi Sedge, i have one as well and think its a great tool. Top presentation on your part as always. One small comment, i had a chat with Peter Parfit - about the alignment of the first row. (i had started same as you explained and did not get accurate result) Peter confirmed, that the holes in the Parfstick are not necessarily 100% parallel to the outer edge. Keep up the great work and best regards from Germany 🇩🇪 Karl
I have just started in woodworking as a retired metal worker. I bought this system a little while ago and love it. I also want to thank you, after watching your content I now own a Domino 500, TS55, CT36 and an OF1400, I also have CSC SYS 50 on order that I hope will be delivered this week. To say I am very impressed with the FESTOOL engineering and build quality would be a massive understatement.
I picked up the PGS on Thursday. I can’t wait to use it! Looking forward to seeing your future videos on this. I bet there are so many great jigs that can be made. You did such a great way of explaining it.
Hi Sedge, I have been using the Parf Guide System since the 1st version. I used it so much I upgraded to the Mark 2 version. The key is taking the time to register each pin/drill guide and you can end up with very close to CNC accuracy. Your walk through is right on the money. Johnny O...
Great! One simple point, when drilling the outer rows of 20mm holes keep the suction block on the inner side of your top, this way you'll get better extraction as there is an open section if you look up from underneath when doing it as you show. Thanks for the vid, very helpul.
Thank you for sharing cause just got the UJK Parf Guide System Mark 2 to make my mft work top. This video was a big help on understanding the system. Thank you again.
Hello Sedge, I also bought the system because the Mft were too expensive for me. I'm very happy with it. You also explained very well how to apply it. 👍 Thank you.
Cool Video Sedge. I also bored 20mm holes on my drill press table. Their only 64mm apart but they work great for using all my Festool style clamping accessories on my drill press table.
@@sedgetool me too, had it for a few years, I’ve made some sectional benches nearly 12’ long, all the holes lined up perfectly. Love your work and enthusiasm Sedge.
This is a great system, I have made many tops with this. When I do the 3mm holes I put blue tape over the offset holes so I don’t accidentally drill them😅
Hi Sedge, used the system extensively a point to note check the cutter sometimes when breaking through the bottom of the hole it leaves a disc on the cutter as it’s extracted and makes the next cut a struggle Steve
The only issue with making a thicker top is that you won't be able to fit clamps through the dog holes, and certain accessories that clamp to the MFT tops are only designed for 18mm tops. The clamp issue can be mitigated by adding a big chamfer on the underside, but it's best to stick to an 18mm top.
I use the Festool Clamps and anything over 3/4 will not allow them to work.... .... I used this system for my 1 1/4" beech workbench and it works great for all my TSO / UJK dogs !!!
You will get tearout with any forstner bit if you're using plywood, the solution is drill all your 3mm pilot holes, flip the top over and score the ply freehand with the forstner bit. Then flip it again and proceed as normal.
@billF2380 It actually makes no difference whether the Parf System uses metric or imperial. The important point is to create a grid of holes at right angles. You will need 20 mm dogs, but you can use any measuring system in your work.
One huge tip: if you're using the Parf guide with plywood, the pins may be very difficult to insert and remove. If that is the case, dip them in paste wax or something similar every so often, this will save you from getting nasty blisters on your fingers. Ask me how I know :^)
Using the Parf System, you can make multiple tops. Also, in a previous video, Sedge demonstrated using the system to add holes to his woodworking table, showing the adaptability of the system.
I wanted to have the 200 holes in my 1x2 meter Valchromat top done at a CNC shop, but none would guarantee the accuracy of the holes or the grid over the length of the top. If I insisted, the cost would be about €300 if I provided the Valchromat. The cost of the Parf Guide MK2 was about €200 and I can make as many tops as I want in my shop.
@@Mike--K How lucky we are in India , cnc person gave me almost 6 x 3 feet sheet done in almost your 8 dollor. But yes hole were not exactly 3/4" but grid was exact.
the holes in the parf sticks are guaranteed to be perfectly aligned but the edges are not. You should not depend on the edges of the parf sticks to be straight or parallel or perfectly aligned with the holes.
I've watched a bunch of the vids on using this system. I've ordered and received mine. There are vids which addrees how to avoid potential problems.. One of the tips is to set your triangles from the mid point of your top and work outward from there, not from the outside inward. Apparently it is in the written instructions to improve accuracy. Don't ask me why, but apparently it is a thing that some machinists have also confirmed makes things more accurate.
Thanks for the info!
an incredible tool that really works very well, Peter Parfitt its creator really is a genius, admiration for him and also for you sedge, great work! thanks
Couldn't agree more!
@@sedgetool thank you Very much Sedge 🙏
I wasn't sure about it when I first bought it. However after my first couple of benches it's amazing. Its allowed me to help out friends and also try out other ideas like extension wings etc. Even though its expensive you'll make your money back after two benches - HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!
Right on!
Great video Sedge! Your teaching style is easy to follow.
Thank You .... Very Much !!!
Great demonstration, Brian! I made my MFT-style workbench/assembly table four years ago using the MK2 version and it was much easier than I thought it would be. I did see some blowout on the bottom of the Valchromat because I didn't use a backer board...lesson learned. This means I can't flip the worktop over when the first side is too abused, but after four years of nearly daily use, it is still in great condition.
wicked cool !!!
Hi Sedge, i have one as well and think its a great tool. Top presentation on your part as always. One small comment, i had a chat with Peter Parfit - about the alignment of the first row. (i had started same as you explained and did not get accurate result)
Peter confirmed, that the holes in the Parfstick are not necessarily 100% parallel to the outer edge.
Keep up the great work and best regards from Germany 🇩🇪 Karl
Thanks for the tip!
I have just started in woodworking as a retired metal worker. I bought this system a little while ago and love it.
I also want to thank you, after watching your content I now own a Domino 500, TS55, CT36 and an OF1400, I also have CSC SYS 50 on order that I hope will be delivered this week. To say I am very impressed with the FESTOOL engineering and build quality would be a massive understatement.
Wicked cool........
I picked up the PGS on Thursday. I can’t wait to use it! Looking forward to seeing your future videos on this. I bet there are so many great jigs that can be made. You did such a great way of explaining it.
Thanks Angie
I bought the system several years ago, it has never been opened. After watching this I think I will get it out and try it. Thanks for the video.
glad it helped
Hi Sedge, I have been using the Parf Guide System since the 1st version. I used it so much I upgraded to the Mark 2 version. The key is taking the time to register each pin/drill guide and you can end up with very close to CNC accuracy. Your walk through is right on the money. Johnny O...
you are spot on when you say the key is taking your time to register !!!! Thanks Johnny Ooooooooooo !!!
Great! One simple point, when drilling the outer rows of 20mm holes keep the suction block on the inner side of your top, this way you'll get better extraction as there is an open section if you look up from underneath when doing it as you show. Thanks for the vid, very helpul.
Thanks for the tip!
I have this system and it is dead on accurate and well machined. Thank you for sharing exactly how to use it.
Hope it Helped !!!
Recently picked up one of these myself. Very nice tool, which I hope serves me well for years to come.
Wicked cool
Excellent video. I’m still learning all about this stuff. Next, I’m going to google what ‘dead-on cent-ah’ means.
cool
Thanks - From Downunder . "Good on you, mate!"
You betcha!
Thank you for sharing cause just got the UJK Parf Guide System Mark 2 to make my mft work top. This video was a big help on understanding the system. Thank you again.
Glad to help !!!!
Hello Sedge, I also bought the system because the Mft were too expensive for me. I'm very happy with it. You also explained very well how to apply it. 👍
Thank you.
Great to hear!
Always informative videos! 😎👍
Glad you like them!
Professor Sedge, I wish you were teaching High School Geometry ! I was able to follow the lesson and understand it perfectly. Blake
Wow, thanks!
Cool Video Sedge. I also bored 20mm holes on my drill press table. Their only 64mm apart but they work great for using all my Festool style clamping accessories on my drill press table.
Wicked cool idea !!
Can’t wait to see how you’re going to incorporate these boards with your STM! The Parf System is crazy cool!
Working on the video.....
As always it's another sharp video :) Typically we clean up factory edge for plywood sheets, is that step not required for MDF or Valchromat?
I cleaned up the edge on the MDF
Ah got it. Same process as plywood to clean up
I bought the system...very nice!
Wicked cool !!!
@@sedgetool me too, had it for a few years, I’ve made some sectional benches nearly 12’ long, all the holes lined up perfectly. Love your work and enthusiasm Sedge.
This is a great system, I have made many tops with this. When I do the 3mm holes I put blue tape over the offset holes so I don’t accidentally drill them😅
Great tip!
great video Sedge, I bet the next video, you'll test the accuracy of UJK Parf Guide System Mark 2
We shall see
Hi Sedge, used the system extensively a point to note check the cutter sometimes when breaking through the bottom of the hole it leaves a disc on the cutter as it’s extracted and makes the next cut a struggle
Steve
Thanks for the tip …. I have encountered this !!!
Great video. I have looked on so many websites for the bench top but cannot find a source of supply. Can you provide a source?
Menards 2x4 about $16.00
Hey sedge. Have you seen peter millard using the lr32 for making an mft top?
I have not.....Time to check it out ... Thanks
Nice job Sedge!!! What is the maximum thickness that can be drilled with jig?
thickness is determined on length of 20mm bit.....
The only issue with making a thicker top is that you won't be able to fit clamps through the dog holes, and certain accessories that clamp to the MFT tops are only designed for 18mm tops. The clamp issue can be mitigated by adding a big chamfer on the underside, but it's best to stick to an 18mm top.
Brian, could you use a CXS 12 to drill both the 3mm and 20mm holes, or are they both better off drilled with a larger drill/driver?
yes you can use a CXS ... But I use the PDC/TPC for the higher RPM...much. more effective !!!
My Festool vacuum 48 AC hose doesn't fit the parf guide dust port. Do i need a smaller hose, or is there an adapter?
This Should work
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Thanks sedge!
How does that system accommodate thicker tops.
2 3/4 sheets of MDF glued up or even thicker 4 inch tops ?
I use the Festool Clamps and anything over 3/4 will not allow them to work.... .... I used this system for my 1 1/4" beech workbench and it works great for all my TSO / UJK dogs !!!
You can use the Festool track and use every third hole with your router using a 20 mm bit and a TSO large triangle and bench dogs.
of course .......
Do you get tear-out on the underside of your table from drilling out the 90mm holes?
I think you mean 20 mm, but you can get tear out. I use a sacrificial MDF board.
I did not use a sacrificial board on the bottom and on 2 tables I got very minimal or no tear out
@@robertpearce8394
Thanks, I changed it.
You will get tearout with any forstner bit if you're using plywood, the solution is drill all your 3mm pilot holes, flip the top over and score the ply freehand with the forstner bit. Then flip it again and proceed as normal.
Was this 3/4” MDF or a special order material?
regular off the shelf MDF 24x48 cut from Menard's
Hey Sedge what are the dimensions of these? Thanks
2x4 MDF
Is this system made in the American measurement system?
Why? 96 =.32 * 3, part of the 32 mm system. Also, it's made in the UK.
not that I am aware of
@@robertpearce8394 because I don’t work in metric.
@billF2380 It actually makes no difference whether the Parf System uses metric or imperial. The important point is to create a grid of holes at right angles. You will need 20 mm dogs, but you can use any measuring system in your work.
@@coolbugfacts1234 u go right ahead sir. I am 72…not changing up now.
One huge tip: if you're using the Parf guide with plywood, the pins may be very difficult to insert and remove. If that is the case, dip them in paste wax or something similar every so often, this will save you from getting nasty blisters on your fingers. Ask me how I know :^)
Thanks for the tip !!
I wish the 6mm part of the pin had a taper or chamfer to guide it in. It would help sit it properly. I ruined one table top because of it.
good idea
@@sedgetool Before you seat the pin fully, you can pull the ruler up, fit the ruler onto the 6mm collar, then push both down and that fixes this issue
Why not to get this work done by cnc router dear?
Using the Parf System, you can make multiple tops. Also, in a previous video, Sedge demonstrated using the system to add holes to his woodworking table, showing the adaptability of the system.
You can ... if you have a CNC nearby ....
I wanted to have the 200 holes in my 1x2 meter Valchromat top done at a CNC shop, but none would guarantee the accuracy of the holes or the grid over the length of the top. If I insisted, the cost would be about €300 if I provided the Valchromat. The cost of the Parf Guide MK2 was about €200 and I can make as many tops as I want in my shop.
@@Mike--K How lucky we are in India , cnc person gave me almost 6 x 3 feet sheet done in almost your 8 dollor. But yes hole were not exactly 3/4" but grid was exact.
Hmm...That's why we are in Sedge school.
Why is it so critical to have all of the holes perfectly accurate?
in case you want the set up to cross cut with a tracksaw and guide rail accurately....
Why don’t you save time and labor and use your very accurate square to line up the other 90
good question
the holes in the parf sticks are guaranteed to be perfectly aligned but the edges are not. You should not depend on the edges of the parf sticks to be straight or parallel or perfectly aligned with the holes.
ok
"next level " ? what's the existing level?
Ok
Lol 😂👍
With all those green boxes behind you, there's nothing you can say that relates to me. Therefore, not waisting my time in you.
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