I know you are trying to be fair but we can tell that you love the game... Pve and pvp are full pay to win... Bdo is the most expensive game i have ever played
@@michelizquierdo1381 thats something i didnt want to hear :/ what is this game about ? is there any goal you must achieve? and also i would like to know if its pvp centered like albion online, that is the only mmo i ever played
This game went on sale on steam for just under a dollar, and being the Asian I am, I still had to watch a video to know if that under a dollar is worth it. Guess it is. Thanks for this super informative video, this is really well made. Bravo! Liked and subbed.
That was the reason i dropped BDO last year, went to play WOW just because of keys, almost got 3000 rio and dropped it, installing BDO again, i guess its just an unending juggle between group-oriented and grind mmos lul
@Garthavan Have you ever played any of the popular mmos like WoW or FFXIV? That is the kind of PvE content that BDO is missing, any kind of team effort stuff that isn't mindlessly killing same weak monsters again and again. I have played BDO a long time and I am well aware what it has to offer, and I am not saying it is a bad game, just that it is missing what most mmo players want and is focused around what most mmo players hate (mindless grind).
Common theme for all Korean MMO, from Maplestory to DFO to Black Desert Online. They're hell bent on keeping you playing the game through the cheapest mean possible, which is the illusion of accomplishment
Thank you so much for this! I was browsing on steam, and saw this, it was one dollar, so I didn't think much of it and bought it. Now seeing this, I'm super exited to play! Immediate sub.
Thank you for the video! I'm not into MMO but it explained me why Crimson Desert looked like a too good to be true scam from nowhere xD Pearl Abyss used every assets and mechanics from BDO to build a Crimson Desert, that's why the devlopment is so fast and the trailers so insane.
I play bdo since 2017 with larger or smaller breaks. I think it is a fantastic game. One thing ppl say its true its missing a group /dungeon content but... bdo seems like a game suitable also for older generation. People at the age of 35/40/50 who have kids... work... can be interupted by every moment... so bdo since mostly you grind solo... is perfect for them because you can stop at any moment. And there is lots of content where you do other things than killing mobs so again.. you can just stop at any moment. Game also does not put any pressure on you to contantly get higher grade weapons and armor... just to be on the same level with others.. you can basically play at your own pace and thats it! You will not miss out anything :)
I played this for a few hours and had no clue what to do, or where to go or what I was supposed to do. Yea the fighting is satisfying but starting up was a chore.
@@49naimaDim on ps5 not sure if there’s cross play but i was asking for help and all they did was flirt with each other only one guy agreed to help me but said i had to join his guild bro did not help
Excellent review. I just want to add that a lot of the pvp content is now structured and gear capped/equalised, while open world pvp ganking is now almost non existent outside of the pvp focused Arsha servers, due to the radical changes made to the karma system.
If you do, join a guild. I learned a lot and was supported by a bunch of cool people and now I absolutely love the game. We call get together for world bosses and hold inhouse PVP to help each other get better :)
I left the game because there was literally no PVE content to do. I think another comment said this and there is no solo dungeons or solo anything. Life skills is probably the best PVE thing to do 😂.
The mobile version of the game had boss rush modes where you fight a boss and it gets significantly stronger over multiple attempts. Does the main game have anything like this or is it literally just grind mobs?
@@dlvarcade9729 it is literally grind mobs in a circle for a third of your day, only to fail a 3% chance enhancement so you can keep wasting your time.
I went through 2 characters on BDO on PC and console. Genuinely, I enjoyed the game. My biggest issue and why I stopped playing was not only the forever grind but it genuinely felt like a pointless grind, what I mean by that is you finally upgrade your gear and get more powerful just to continue doing the same thing you've been doing. I've gotten both my characters to a respectable place, and a hard plateaued both times with them just feeling like "why am I trying to get more powerful? What's the point?" It just wants you to enjoy doing that but I would like there to be more of a reason if your not interested in PVP. I miss it, just can't go through it again
you dont seem to realize that the answer you seek lies within yourself.. thats how it is for any MMORPG. You can even say that WoW is a Pointless grind or any other mmorpg is however as soon as you do, you may LOSE all your ambitions, all your motivation, all drive in a game and all the Fun you once had only by saying/thinking that everything is pointless. it doesnt matter what MMO you get into you will find yourself at the exact same spot sooner or later. I say this dont remove any game from your playlist just set them on a timehold and take a break from them and move on to the next and play the games like BDO whenever you get your curiosity levels so high you have to try it for some reason. The only ONEs who can kill the fun in a game is Ourselves.. I havent played BDO for maybe 3-4 months and have i gotten tired of BDO? I have no static or straight answer to give because every MMORPG has their ups and downs, I will always love BDO. What makes BDO fun to play for me is the Combat experience.. I dont care about FOMO, I dont care about the P2W in BDO because to me that is not "True P2W", True P2W is when you can directly increase Combat DMG through spending Money to up+ your stats with 1 single button click. Spending money on Crons to enhance your Gear well you dont increase your chances of succeeding an enhancement by spending more money, RNG Punish both F2P and P2W. P2W have no "clear" advantage over F2P in BDO except for cosmetics. Pets might be seen as P2W i can understand that being the case back in the old days of BDO but not in BDO's current state. Yes I have played BDO since Beta and its a game that i have enjoyed as much as any other MMORPG with similar Combat like Tera Online or Blade&Soul, etc.. Grinding mobs or lifeskilling is very repetitive gameplay in BDO yes, but so is every MMORPG wether you PvP, PvE or do some form of gathering, Running through the same dungeons/instances/raids over and over until you get the loot you desire, working your way through every single mechanic. I wish you a great gaming experience and have a really great DAY! WEEK! MONTH! YEAR! FUTURE! I wish you the best!😇
Also I would say it’s not too terrible an idea to play it in breaks, I find it rewarding in the sense that you can play it for a bit, get buffs and bonuses for coming back, you can take a month break and get “returning player” status again, as well as not burning yourself out too much
The transport and storage changes broke my heart. There was something convincing and magical about having shops in various cities and travelling between them. Made me feel like a medieval manager of sorts. As someone who primarily lifeskilled and enjoyed the atmosphere., I feel few incentives to come back now that this is gone.
15,000 + hours here. I'll make this easy for you. BDO has a FANTASTIC combat system. But it suffers from massive desync and a high skill ceiling- It takes awhile to learn. The best thing about bdo is how most of the grinding and rng can involve not a single other player. This is a massive con depending on what game you're coming from. There is generally not reason to ever interact with out players outside of pvp. - Aka if you're coming from ff14, for example, you will find yourself lacking a huge social aspect of mmos here. The game is not built for dungeons, raids, and etc. The world bosses aren't too interesting, mobs are braindead. If you want high skill, fast, and exciting people play bdo. If you want a social mmo (like mmo's should be imo) you'll play for a month, then likely quit.
But why do you keep playing? What use has my grinded gear other than grinding faster? Are there like pvp arena’s or anything like a dungeon/raid or is there actually Nothing? Its kinda hard to understand why so many play it if that doesnt exist 😅
@@ixodesricinus3001 It's actually called sunk cost fallacy, p2w crap like BDO is not really easy to quit for people who wasted a third of their lives and thousands of dollars.
I played since launch and have the achievement for 50k hours. I quit earlier this year after spending over a year and 100s of billions of silver trying to get my debo necklace to PEN. It kept bouncing back and forth between TRI and TET. The final straw was it downgrading to DUO. After that I logged out and uninstalled. I really liked the grind, but the RNG thing is just too much at higher levels.
for me the peak baseline for monetization in multiplayer games is warframe where 98% of the game is free and 70% of the grinds arent painful (and if they are you just buy them from other players from the premium currency you farmed in the game in about a day) what i wonder is how does bdo compare in that access to those that have played both games
Great thorough review. I absolutely love the combat mechanism, but hate the grind. Are T1 node wars with capped ap/dp still a thing? Only reason I would consider coming back. I want to pvp, something I excel at and enjoy a lot, without needing to waste limitless hours in grinding more of my life away into mindless grinding. Feels like such a chore. The lifeskilling like gathering and farming I didn't mind though, I used to enjoy that 3 years ago. But everyone else made WAY more by just grinding and it felt unbalanced compared to lifeskilling... For lifeskilling you needed X amount of months/years invested until you reach a certain skill to just start making money, which was stupid.
I love the world of BDO, I just wish they added massive update to include tons of pve co op content like tons of dungeons and things. I know they have that one PVE dungeon now but that's old news. This games main focus is PVP and yes it's p2w
P2w is an item that gives you an edge over players in combat. This is past for convenience of time. One paysto progress faster the other guy goes f2p and gets to the very level the whale was at but 3 months late.
@@Toxickys it's not when you can obtain everything by farming. It's not fully P2W, it's not also fully F2P. The comment above me already explained that
What let me down at BDO was the wired account movement from one Publisher to another or whatever this was. I initially started playing BDO during the last closed beta and for some reason I quit playing and missed all about this transsion. Was kinda sad discovering my account lost a few weeks past the time limit for the transfer. But may I will start a new journey. Now the game looks way more convenient as it was back when I played it.
ah.. the memories. i played bdo in 2017 with hundreds of players online, and the developers are still good. this video brings back good memories, thank you bro
I tried BDO once and honestly I didn't understand what the hell my goal was, all the life skill and investment mechanics just confused me, so I quickly dropped it. Your breakdown makes it sound much more straightforward than the impression I had, so I might give it another try
Played at launch and my main issue was that it feels like combat is one sided in the players favor. I couldn't find an enemy who could bring a challenge. They all dropped so quickly and their attacks are easy to dodge. I was hoping to have someone fight back. The sandbox idea isn't horrible, but i think the issue games have with sandboxes has got to be the limited rewards for grinding lifestyle fields. Like, i get it this meal can give me a temp boost, but i'm already curbing everything i face without it. So why put in the effort to get these great boosters that aren't actually influencing my gameplay?
Except there is dungeons. There is raids. I’ve completed over 800 quests on my character. I’ve never grinded mobs once. It’s just this new thing where people hear a thing and just repeat it. If you wanna just do what you could do 8 years ago then go ahead. But it hasn’t been the way the game is for so long.
I'm not saying you lying but like nearly 100% of the fanbase is saying that this game sucks in the social aspect due to the lack of dungeons and raids.
I actually don't mind the grind or rng at all, but as a new player I'm struggling to see the purpose in improving my gear with such lack of content. Like what am I improving my gear FOR exactly? It feels like it has no purpose. I'm just grinding...to grind better spots...to grind better spots..and that's it. This is like earning gold, to earn more gold, to earn more gold, but you never actually have anything to spend it on..making the gold pointless.
Started BDO last week for the first time, I'm currently in Heidel, so very early game. I think you should have the mindset of playing a singleplayer offline game during the mainstory as you learn the game mechanics. And not to worry about all of the systems you can use 'cause it's overwhelming, you don't even need to touch them to progress in the beginning. What I think is very positive is the voice acting, it's up there with Witcher 3 and cyberpunk 2077. The animations is good and bad, like the mouths barely moves but the body language is great. The world is very beautiful and diverse. It's well paced. Main mission is "here is a good story then defeat the boss" then they use "fetch quests" to tell you the locations off important vendors or how to use systems bit by bit. So the story doesn't suffer for doing any menial quests, yet. Combat is fun even if I'm bad at it, button smashing is the my way of doing things so far. The negative is mostly the overwhelming feeling of all the systems and the UI. Even if you don't need to use everything it's still there. I bet you get used to most of it and you can customize almost everything with the UI but I don't know how I want it customized. At least I could make the UI bigger size, could barely read the text at first. Music is very good to. Overall it's been fun and I feel like I can play at my own pace. As a new player I feel like I'm getting a boost and the help I need from the catch-up systems. So the quality of life changes are working I'll say.
the thing about P2W in BDO is that as you said you can theoretically pay money to speed up your progression, but at a certain point you will hit a ceiling of how much you can actually boost your gear with it. for a normal P2Wer, that doesn't literally throw tens of thousands of dollars into the game, you wont even reach 700gs, which by today's standards isnt't even remotely close in power to what you need for actual endgame PvP. Couple that with the fact that a ton of PvP content nowadays is capped, so gear doesn't really matter, and that even if someone would reach like 730gs by paying real money they would have no clue how to actually PvP and the "apparent" issue of P2W is completely negligible.
Thank you for this video. I had the game in my library and tried it once when I had an verry old gaming laptop and it was not verry fun. However because of this video I am currenlty downloading the game and cant wait to try it.
I'd love to go back and play this again. When it came out, it was free! I made 2 classes to end game. Love it! Then...poof! It became a Steam thing, lost my account and all its many hours of gears/characters along with it. Now, I'd have to pay for it? and start over...That was the icing on the cake for me. Now Steam has come out with a few noteworthy games since, but nothing really keeps me grounded in them. Is it just me? Or games are just not coming out like they use to make them? There's simply not much out there that has a wow factor in terms of "New Releases".
100% agree dude, especially MMO's, lots of the new releases are a disapointment. I will say with Black Desert, the catch up is very good now. With faster leveling, seasons and fast travel, you might be able to get back to where you were pretty quick. But it still really sucks
As far as P2W, it technically is but reality it isn't. It would be the same as saying that a golfer who plays once a week and has a $20K set of clubs is P2W versus a golfer who plays every day with a $1000 set of clubs. Does it mean that the guy with the $20K set of clubs will win against the guy with the $1K set of clubs? No, it means that he will lose by a few less strokes if the guy playing every day is practice and skilled. There are a lot of "Trust Fund Kids" that come to the game, whale, get blown up, and then leave.
You get advantage if you pay, tent and value pack alone are huge advantage compared to someone who doesn't have those, then there is fairy and pets and crons. It is cope if you think it is not p2w
@Ziegeri you can get fairy for free pets for free maid and butter (about 4+) for free and any horse for free. All paying does is give you a small boost to pve leveling content pvp is still all skill based so quit yapping as if you know what your talking about
@@AbstractElement Only small percentage of the playerbase cares about PvP. Grinding is what people do 99% of the time even if they care about PvP, and for grinding you absolutely get insane advantage if you spend money. You are delusional if you think 30% tax reduction from value pack is not significant. Oh and you are right, I completely forgot about maids, with those you don't even need to leave the grinding place, and no you don't get enough of them to do that f2p.
@Ziegeri I legit have 5 maids as fully f2p so yeah you do get enough I'm only currently level 62 but eh. And you can get value packs for free after updates but tax reduc doesn't really matter money is so ez to grind you can get billions in an hour or so
For me, pay to win is you somehow get to a point where you can't advance further (or beat other paying player) until you pay yourself. On bdo you can generally get to the same point as paying player, they just get there faster
ive paid some money in the game for pets 1-2 cosmetics, a tent. I have never felt better or faster than a dedicated grinder. You got pets and costums from events. I've got my dreamhorse from an event. Basicly if you pay A LOT then you can gear up faster. Time is the only thing you can buy in this game.
Experience player here, i spend thousand of hours in this game grinding, joining raid with weekly guild boss and monthly raid, level up all the life skill to artisan, some character is on level 68, setting alarm for the ingame world boss and trading system, PC is online 24/7 because we got afk grinding for life skill. Not to mention I have spend tons of real money for outfit but at the end I stop playing it at all because I am too busy and the grinding is not life friendly. You going to spend hour on your laptop grinding in this game until you forgot you have real life and you need to grind that as well.
Probably the best mmorp around. Everyone can find his cup of tea in BDO. Grinding for "endgame" gear is not the only thing to do nor the best. Just play the game, the entire journey is nice.
Wow, I may have to come back and check out the changes. I played from launch until after little after the DK launch (lvl 62 DK - then stopped). Looks like some great changes!
YOU NOW GET A FREE DREAM HORSE?! This was literally my only ingame goal a few years ago, but I never even got close to it because you needed to spent do much IRL money for thr right skills..
Yes the end game is all about grinding for mats and currency. What he failed to mention is that you have to deal with the open world PvP. Which is a major part of the end game grinding and is very unbalanced.
Ive played this game on and off for some years. And the only thing that i see that absolutely holds the game back is that grinding is the only way to progress pretty much. While the combat is the absolute best to ever do it. Just the simple fact i have to literally go in circles for thousands of hours killing mobs is just awfully boring. This is by far the best combat in any mmo but its sad how they choose to utilize it. Everything else in the game is totally fine. Only thing that makes people quit is how boring the grind is. If there was other means to progress the game would be perfect and most likely have the biggest player base of any mmo ever created. With so much exciting combat and pvp, the game at its core is just boring. Thats why most people quit. Imagine ur fresh out season 540 gs trying to reach 680-700 so u can atleast be viable. So u just grind mobs for about 40 hours to hit 600. Then u realize ur still too weak to do pvp (which is arguably the most fun thing in the game) so u literally just have to go in circles for like 100-200+ hours (most likely alot longer like 1000+ because u wont be so lucky when it comes to rng) to just hit 680-700 gs. Thats just incredible boring to go through just to only be able to do meaningful pvp 1-3 times a week. Theres other pvp but its kind of meaningless and gets boring after an hour or two. And I’ve talked to people that are 700+ and they always tell me i dont know why i chose to grind so long. Most of them dont even know why they kept playing the game. They tell me id have a better time just reaching 620-640 and only doing capped pvp because pushing further is just a dreadful experience of circle grinding boredom. Thats my ONLY issue with the game. Its also worth mentioning most players/guilds that do have gear still play capped nodewars anyway( except the strongest guilds) so it may not even be worth to go higher than tier 3 cap requirements.
Absolutely correct. I logged on occasionally just to lifeskill and wish they would put more effort into other aspect of the game not just grinding. The game has so much other thing to do yet only way to gear up quicker is through thousand hours of grinding and that is incredibly boring. I wouldn't put myself in that situation and suffer when I was suppose to be having fun playing the game.
Now that its capped u dont need to grind much, as long as u dont become addicted to it you can just log in for pvp and do some other stuff and have fun. Theres no need to grind so much like before, its great now
As a new player in that game i have 2 questions: - On PS5 are many players online nowadays? - How is the PVP content in that game ? Primary on PS5 Thanks 😅
i felt really overwhelmed the last time i decided to try years ago. i had no clue what the rewards are used for i was getting from pass and the bag was weighing down i remember. the nodes were the last nail in the coffin so dropped it coz i wanted to get into a simpler easy game. this was like a few years back
For me the biggest flaw of BDO is that there's not much danger in the game to worry about. Sure there are huge bulky monsters and swimming creatures but they can't and won't really do much to you to be able to set any meaningful boundaries. there is not much risk.
The mobile version of the game has boss rush modes, modes where you can use multiple of your characters together, does the main game have this too? I’ve only played the mobile version and liked it and want to try the main game but just hoping there’s things to do more than just grind mobs. I like a lot of the solo stuff in the mobile one.
I always think about trying BDO as a old GW2 veteran, but then i hear about no PvE endgame except grinding... I mean GW2 already has issues with not releasing a lot of Raids. Having nothing and just grinding mobs? that sounds horrible, but i guess to each their own. Like, grinding is fine... but only grind? never be done? The random chance upgrades sounds a lot like Lost Ark to me. When i reached a 5% chance to hone my gear, i dropped the game. So not looking good for BDO for me. The game overall looks so cool and the combat looks so extremely good... but those mentioned things are just dealbreakers for me. Ty for the honest review
biggest flaw of BDO is that you have to destroy your graphics in order to play large scale PvP, or even normal pvp, thats what killed my enjoyment. I can play remastered on every zone even while grinding but for Node Wars i had to go potato mode just to maximize damage (because damage in pvp is calculated by FPS)
Very thankful for this video. I got a question tho. Do i really only grind to grind faster? Is there no pvp arena, world bosses or some kind of Dungeon/raid?
I quitted since 2019 after ~3 years of endless grind and PvP, node war castle war non stop. When 520GS was considered god tier in BDO ( heard everyone is 720GS++ these days). It crazy how dev make the game more easy and convenient compare to what it initially started with when you grind 1-2 weeks just to hit lv 56 for class acesion and 2 months for lv 60. Personally I enjoyed every single sadist moment BDO gave me praying to RNGesus for TET to 1 weeks grind non stop back to all PRI gears xD.
The biggest downside for me is that it is highly addictive and then becomes a full time job, cause there is so much to do and it encourages 24/7 online status. So i have to give it a break every now and then.
I haven't played any MMORPG for years.. but previously I reaally really enjoyed Tera Online. It was completely free, didn't require any purchases, and you get free mount and the world was very colorful, huge and I had tons of fun just exploring alone or with an internet-friend. But Tera is gone now, so what would be the equivalent game to that today? Thank you! :)
the combat is cool but like just hitting mobs with same rotation over and over again sucks. I dont even want to play new char as I need to learn new rotation and do the same. They should add some fun crative stuff to the combat grind. I would rather fight one boss for 30 min than hitting roation for 30min.
If they removed that trash upgrade system and replaced it with guaranteed upgrades using drops and simply not upgrading anymore and instead you farm bosses and those Valencia dungeons it would be so much better. So many more people would come back if they did that
I’ll save you 18:35. The game doesn’t have traditional dungeons, and questing is absolutely not intuitive. There are hundreds of quests that will literally reward you with nothing. Enhancing the items you need is AIDS because the items basically never drop and when you finally can upgrade you are betting on like a 4.7% chance to get the upgrade. If the upgrade fails then you lose the level you were at. There’s no real dungeons and pvp is about as bad as you can imagine where there’s people who have the items they need to play and then there’s the rest of us still BETTING on an upgrade.
@AandKify You must suck. Because, hasrah can be done with season gear and can be 800 mil an hour. If you played 2 hours a day 5 days a week that's 8.6 bil a week. In a month, that's 35 bil a month or so. You can buy enough gear to move on. Eventually, it slows down, but not till the 680 to 690 gs. You get two rings free, that's 80 bil. A tet blackstar and a pen blackstar. Two free pen armors. Buying your last armors can be done in a month and be on your way to buy accessories. Naturally, making 800 mil just requires mild class familiarity. And I am not counting the insane free shit they hand out like the 6 costumes and what not.
@@crillianmarvin6256 your tits got quite hard there. You went quite fuming all that fuss to tell ppl to grind 2 hours a day fer 5 days a week for a month or so. Considering you know what to do from the get go. I didnt play this game for a long time and I dont care but sure you do. Go at it shitter.
i just wanna attend these wars that goes on, i even tried queuing up for arenas and they said i need an invite plus im only level 57 or 58 saw the new winter dlc but man i hate the grind
I mainly stopped hecause of issues with the ps4, as unfortunately i am a console peasant lol then i did get a next gen...but there isnt cross save - and i got the xbox s. Thennnnnnnn lowkey avoided starting again because of the lack of players on console 😅 I miss the grind, funny enough, so i am kind of just returning to having to start over and at least they addressed and changed so much that was daunting about starting over, and it can help me avoid the issues at the end game a little longer 😂
I would say getting maids is better because you share it across all of your characters unlike weight. and like the person above said you should be good on pets because of how much events we get. And for tents you can spend 14mil (I’m forget the cost) at a old moon person every seven days and you’ll get a temporary tent
I've had my eye on this game a few times, but never played it. Now from the same makers, a new game is in the making i will definitely buy: CRIMSON DESERT
The thing is i really really liked the combat system.. but the game was just way too overwhelming.. like.. there is too much to do.. and the grind is crazy
My only problem with BDO is huge desync , like ship stuck at dock, I was crazy with sea content when it out. Ramming Candidum at 4am with guildmate, Sadly more and more ship desync become unbearable, cant even afk without thrown out of my own ship
When you pay for something and it just speeds up your progress, thats not pay 2 win. Pay 2 win is when you buy things that are otherwise unachievable using ingame time/currency, is not that right ?
BDO player here, I would like to add something about the p2w. Yes, you can p2w in this game, but no sane player would like to hurt their wallet for this game, unless you're clueless or making contents (like this guy: "www.youtube.com/@erkulez" ) If your definition of p2w = pay for convenience, then yes, it is p2w, again. But does this affect your player experience up to the point that you can't compete and play? Well, not really, but sometimes it does feel annoying without the convenience stuffs. Though most of the convenience they gave you for free.
I was a Vindictus addict back in the day, but after some years of playing I quit because of the lack of open-world... Now, everytime I come back to this game I'm overwhelmed, while I love its gameplay, I dislike the game as a whole... so if you guys know about any mmo with similar combat but without forced pvp, some extra crap and grind-hell like bdo, please tell me.
Thats the thing.. BDO has no competition in terms of combat in the MMO scene until today.. that's why some pvp vets on the game is hesitant to quit.. theres no current MMO that satisfy the combat feel like BDO does.. maybe there is but theres no point in playing if it is a dead game(Dragons Dogma Online for example).. so yeah hopefully the upcoming Chrono Odyssey can compete.
@@beyasal Fair but I don't think it's moral to charge people to rent dye in a game at around a rate of 10$ per month even if a bonus pack lowers the cost, and just the purchasing of dye in general is kind of a scam by forcing us to by random roll dye boxes that won't give us our color without 1000 purchases, the game is sadly still very predatory in it's monetization.
Bro you are giga coping with the p2w stuff lol, you can buy advantage with money? yes, then it's p2w, there is no such thing "pay for convinient" or other made up words lol, only p2w or no p2w, no p2w is no xp for money, no item for money, no currency for money, just only skins, p2w is currency, xp boost, item, gold etc for money Btw the amount of delusional people in the comments about p2w is beyond insane, if you can buy stuff other than skins, then game is p2w, 99% of you don't understand what p2w means lol
when i bought this game on release, i thought it would be like FFXIV online where i can play with other people. so my brother got it too. at that time, we weren't able to team up and play together. so we played for a few minutes and quit. so is it still the same? basically solo?
BDO has an arena where you use arena gear so everyone is on equal levels. The more you play the arena, the more gear you unlock, but again, arena specific gear. its not stronger, just differen types of builds. there is also guild arena's where u can GvG 10v10. There are nodewards with capped gear all the way to uncapped gear. There are sieges. There is openworld pvp, but its heavily punished nowadays. ect.
Thats why i stopped playing actually. When you get stronger you get to be able to grind at a harder grindspot and goes on and on like that and the lonely grind apparently never ends. When i noticed that i stopped playing immediately.
After spending around 20hrs into the game, all I have to say about this game are: gameplay is shallow, have no clue what am I doing, too much texts, UI is very overwhelming. If you like hot chicks and grinding, well then it's a game for you. Graphics look cool but keep in mind that the world feels very empty and unlively. That's my thought after I experienced this game
Grind aside, the rotation of just killing mobs is so repetitive and seems to pose no real challenge once you are at the right level, making everything seem meaningless and boring. I love the nodes and life skills and that is a sandbox MMO that makes you live your character's life there but the game lacks any fun combat (not one-shotting mobs)
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Now is a great time to get back into Black Desert! Happy to answer any questions if you're thinking about trying it :)
is there a new server for new players?
@@HanY-gf3sx Yes seasonal server
I know you are trying to be fair but we can tell that you love the game...
Pve and pvp are full pay to win...
Bdo is the most expensive game i have ever played
@@michelizquierdo1381 thats something i didnt want to hear :/
what is this game about ? is there any goal you must achieve?
and also i would like to know if its pvp centered like albion online, that is the only mmo i ever played
is there a plot?
This game went on sale on steam for just under a dollar, and being the Asian I am, I still had to watch a video to know if that under a dollar is worth it. Guess it is. Thanks for this super informative video, this is really well made. Bravo! Liked and subbed.
I'm white but I'm doing the same thing. I'm investing my time, not money
Exactly what im doing right now lol
~~UPDATE:~~
It was NOT worth the $1.
Is it on Steam? I can't find it on there.
@@MarvinPowell1 that mean you country don't support the game
'If its not free it's too expensive' - My Asian Parents
Biggest issue with BDO is that there is no group PVE content, no raids, no dungeons, nothing what most mmo players like.
Exactly. It's a boring, never-ending, lonely grindfest with no interesting endgame content.
Well is better like this than to play with all idiots that cant move from fire or avoid arrows or anything
That was the reason i dropped BDO last year, went to play WOW just because of keys, almost got 3000 rio and dropped it, installing BDO again, i guess its just an unending juggle between group-oriented and grind mmos lul
@Garthavan
Have you ever played any of the popular mmos like WoW or FFXIV? That is the kind of PvE content that BDO is missing, any kind of team effort stuff that isn't mindlessly killing same weak monsters again and again.
I have played BDO a long time and I am well aware what it has to offer, and I am not saying it is a bad game, just that it is missing what most mmo players want and is focused around what most mmo players hate (mindless grind).
Can u recommend a game that has that we looking for
Long story short, Combat, graphics doesn't matter.
If you like Grindy Games, It's for you. If you don't like grinding, don't even bother.
I mean not really most people that play this game don’t grind and just pvp since everything is capped gear
@@sulaygonzalezlimathey grind for better gear for pvp
Common theme for all Korean MMO, from Maplestory to DFO to Black Desert Online. They're hell bent on keeping you playing the game through the cheapest mean possible, which is the illusion of accomplishment
Are you saying not to play any MMO or JRPG if you don't like grinding? Long story short I mean lol
@@radandpaisley Don't invest your time because you will be grinding 99% of the time.
Thank you for being honest about the downsides of this amazing game. I am not playing anymore but I enjoyed it more than anything for quite a while.
Thank you so much for this! I was browsing on steam, and saw this, it was one dollar, so I didn't think much of it and bought it. Now seeing this, I'm super exited to play! Immediate sub.
Same lol
Amazing! Its a really unique game, hope you enjoy it :D
It's free if you download their Client
Thank you for the video! I'm not into MMO but it explained me why Crimson Desert looked like a too good to be true scam from nowhere xD Pearl Abyss used every assets and mechanics from BDO to build a Crimson Desert, that's why the devlopment is so fast and the trailers so insane.
It's not fast. They have been at it for years.
They’ve been working on CD for 7 years.
I play bdo since 2017 with larger or smaller breaks. I think it is a fantastic game. One thing ppl say its true its missing a group /dungeon content but... bdo seems like a game suitable also for older generation. People at the age of 35/40/50 who have kids... work... can be interupted by every moment... so bdo since mostly you grind solo... is perfect for them because you can stop at any moment. And there is lots of content where you do other things than killing mobs so again.. you can just stop at any moment. Game also does not put any pressure on you to contantly get higher grade weapons and armor... just to be on the same level with others.. you can basically play at your own pace and thats it! You will not miss out anything :)
I played this for a few hours and had no clue what to do, or where to go or what I was supposed to do. Yea the fighting is satisfying but starting up was a chore.
I also think that the entry threshold may seem high for new players, it's best to find a group or guild that will introduce you to the game.
@@49naimaDim on ps5 not sure if there’s cross play but i was asking for help and all they did was flirt with each other only one guy agreed to help me but said i had to join his guild bro did not help
Man I already tried playing this game like 3 times and everytime I just cant get past the ui, it's just so cluttered and overwhelming
You can edit the UI to your liking at any time, be it moving modules around or just removing them from the screen 👍🏼
Mf got filtered by the UI 😂😂😂
Exactly. And FF 14 is even worse!
Excellent review. I just want to add that a lot of the pvp content is now structured and gear capped/equalised, while open world pvp ganking is now almost non existent outside of the pvp focused Arsha servers, due to the radical changes made to the karma system.
thanks to new karma system probably griefing is daily thing
Karma changes were stupid and they were the reason why I ultimately quit the game. Trash mmorpg regardless.
Picked up the game a few years ago and dropped off early, but I should probably give it another shot sometime soon.
If you do, join a guild. I learned a lot and was supported by a bunch of cool people and now I absolutely love the game. We call get together for world bosses and hold inhouse PVP to help each other get better :)
I left the game because there was literally no PVE content to do. I think another comment said this and there is no solo dungeons or solo anything. Life skills is probably the best PVE thing to do 😂.
The mobile version of the game had boss rush modes where you fight a boss and it gets significantly stronger over multiple attempts. Does the main game have anything like this or is it literally just grind mobs?
@@dlvarcade9729 it is literally grind mobs in a circle for a third of your day, only to fail a 3% chance enhancement so you can keep wasting your time.
@@Azrubyup. Glad I came here before I bought it again. This game should be permanently free
There's also a really elaborate music system that recently opened up to all classes. It can be pretty fun and you can play solo or with other players.
I went through 2 characters on BDO on PC and console. Genuinely, I enjoyed the game. My biggest issue and why I stopped playing was not only the forever grind but it genuinely felt like a pointless grind, what I mean by that is you finally upgrade your gear and get more powerful just to continue doing the same thing you've been doing. I've gotten both my characters to a respectable place, and a hard plateaued both times with them just feeling like "why am I trying to get more powerful? What's the point?" It just wants you to enjoy doing that but I would like there to be more of a reason if your not interested in PVP. I miss it, just can't go through it again
you dont seem to realize that the answer you seek lies within yourself.. thats how it is for any MMORPG. You can even say that WoW is a Pointless grind or any other mmorpg is however as soon as you do, you may LOSE all your ambitions, all your motivation, all drive in a game and all the Fun you once had only by saying/thinking that everything is pointless. it doesnt matter what MMO you get into you will find yourself at the exact same spot sooner or later. I say this dont remove any game from your playlist just set them on a timehold and take a break from them and move on to the next and play the games like BDO whenever you get your curiosity levels so high you have to try it for some reason.
The only ONEs who can kill the fun in a game is Ourselves.. I havent played BDO for maybe 3-4 months and have i gotten tired of BDO? I have no static or straight answer to give because every MMORPG has their ups and downs, I will always love BDO. What makes BDO fun to play for me is the Combat experience.. I dont care about FOMO, I dont care about the P2W in BDO because to me that is not "True P2W", True P2W is when you can directly increase Combat DMG through spending Money to up+ your stats with 1 single button click. Spending money on Crons to enhance your Gear well you dont increase your chances of succeeding an enhancement by spending more money, RNG Punish both F2P and P2W. P2W have no "clear" advantage over F2P in BDO except for cosmetics. Pets might be seen as P2W i can understand that being the case back in the old days of BDO but not in BDO's current state. Yes I have played BDO since Beta and its a game that i have enjoyed as much as any other MMORPG with similar Combat like Tera Online or Blade&Soul, etc..
Grinding mobs or lifeskilling is very repetitive gameplay in BDO yes, but so is every MMORPG wether you PvP, PvE or do some form of gathering, Running through the same dungeons/instances/raids over and over until you get the loot you desire, working your way through every single mechanic.
I wish you a great gaming experience and have a really great DAY! WEEK! MONTH! YEAR! FUTURE! I wish you the best!😇
@@askarn94I kinda get that,I just wanna do fun combos even if the game is nothing much in terms of acomplishment
Also I would say it’s not too terrible an idea to play it in breaks, I find it rewarding in the sense that you can play it for a bit, get buffs and bonuses for coming back, you can take a month break and get “returning player” status again, as well as not burning yourself out too much
The transport and storage changes broke my heart. There was something convincing and magical about having shops in various cities and travelling between them. Made me feel like a medieval manager of sorts. As someone who primarily lifeskilled and enjoyed the atmosphere., I feel few incentives to come back now that this is gone.
15,000 + hours here. I'll make this easy for you. BDO has a FANTASTIC combat system. But it suffers from massive desync and a high skill ceiling- It takes awhile to learn. The best thing about bdo is how most of the grinding and rng can involve not a single other player. This is a massive con depending on what game you're coming from. There is generally not reason to ever interact with out players outside of pvp. - Aka if you're coming from ff14, for example, you will find yourself lacking a huge social aspect of mmos here. The game is not built for dungeons, raids, and etc. The world bosses aren't too interesting, mobs are braindead. If you want high skill, fast, and exciting people play bdo. If you want a social mmo (like mmo's should be imo) you'll play for a month, then likely quit.
Thats 2 year bro. touch some grass
Everything you described is either a negative or just repetitive af. U good ??
But why do you keep playing? What use has my grinded gear other than grinding faster? Are there like pvp arena’s or anything like a dungeon/raid or is there actually Nothing? Its kinda hard to understand why so many play it if that doesnt exist 😅
@@ixodesricinus3001 It's actually called sunk cost fallacy, p2w crap like BDO is not really easy to quit for people who wasted a third of their lives and thousands of dollars.
Homie, you have two years worth of time playing this game. Go touch some grass, take a shower, do SOMETHING other than play this game.
I played since launch and have the achievement for 50k hours. I quit earlier this year after spending over a year and 100s of billions of silver trying to get my debo necklace to PEN. It kept bouncing back and forth between TRI and TET. The final straw was it downgrading to DUO. After that I logged out and uninstalled. I really liked the grind, but the RNG thing is just too much at higher levels.
for me the peak baseline for monetization in multiplayer games is warframe where 98% of the game is free and 70% of the grinds arent painful (and if they are you just buy them from other players from the premium currency you farmed in the game in about a day)
what i wonder is how does bdo compare in that access to those that have played both games
BDO is a predatory p2w system...
Great thorough review. I absolutely love the combat mechanism, but hate the grind. Are T1 node wars with capped ap/dp still a thing? Only reason I would consider coming back. I want to pvp, something I excel at and enjoy a lot, without needing to waste limitless hours in grinding more of my life away into mindless grinding. Feels like such a chore. The lifeskilling like gathering and farming I didn't mind though, I used to enjoy that 3 years ago. But everyone else made WAY more by just grinding and it felt unbalanced compared to lifeskilling... For lifeskilling you needed X amount of months/years invested until you reach a certain skill to just start making money, which was stupid.
I love the world of BDO, I just wish they added massive update to include tons of pve co op content like tons of dungeons and things. I know they have that one PVE dungeon now but that's old news.
This games main focus is PVP and yes it's p2w
P2w is an item that gives you an edge over players in combat. This is past for convenience of time. One paysto progress faster the other guy goes f2p and gets to the very level the whale was at but 3 months late.
@@bboyg1 I like to call it Pay for convenience
@@benz19982 There is no such thing which called pay for convenience, this is just a cope from p2w players, and the game is giga p2w
@@Toxickys it's not when you can obtain everything by farming. It's not fully P2W, it's not also fully F2P. The comment above me already explained that
@@benz19982 You don't understand the definition of p2w
What let me down at BDO was the wired account movement from one Publisher to another or whatever this was. I initially started playing BDO during the last closed beta and for some reason I quit playing and missed all about this transsion. Was kinda sad discovering my account lost a few weeks past the time limit for the transfer.
But may I will start a new journey. Now the game looks way more convenient as it was back when I played it.
ah.. the memories. i played bdo in 2017 with hundreds of players online, and the developers are still good. this video brings back good memories, thank you bro
I tried BDO once and honestly I didn't understand what the hell my goal was, all the life skill and investment mechanics just confused me, so I quickly dropped it.
Your breakdown makes it sound much more straightforward than the impression I had, so I might give it another try
how did it turn out ?
im stuck at level 57 or 58
Played at launch and my main issue was that it feels like combat is one sided in the players favor. I couldn't find an enemy who could bring a challenge. They all dropped so quickly and their attacks are easy to dodge. I was hoping to have someone fight back. The sandbox idea isn't horrible, but i think the issue games have with sandboxes has got to be the limited rewards for grinding lifestyle fields. Like, i get it this meal can give me a temp boost, but i'm already curbing everything i face without it. So why put in the effort to get these great boosters that aren't actually influencing my gameplay?
Because PVP, and because there's some hardcore farming zones which food buffs can help you give that extra edge.
Except there is dungeons. There is raids. I’ve completed over 800 quests on my character. I’ve never grinded mobs once. It’s just this new thing where people hear a thing and just repeat it. If you wanna just do what you could do 8 years ago then go ahead. But it hasn’t been the way the game is for so long.
I'm not saying you lying but like nearly 100% of the fanbase is saying that this game sucks in the social aspect due to the lack of dungeons and raids.
What raid do you speak of?
I actually don't mind the grind or rng at all, but as a new player I'm struggling to see the purpose in improving my gear with such lack of content. Like what am I improving my gear FOR exactly? It feels like it has no purpose. I'm just grinding...to grind better spots...to grind better spots..and that's it. This is like earning gold, to earn more gold, to earn more gold, but you never actually have anything to spend it on..making the gold pointless.
Nice video, easy and pleasant to watch!! Well done! Now I want to give this game a chance again.
Started BDO last week for the first time, I'm currently in Heidel, so very early game. I think you should have the mindset of playing a singleplayer offline game during the mainstory as you learn the game mechanics. And not to worry about all of the systems you can use 'cause it's overwhelming, you don't even need to touch them to progress in the beginning.
What I think is very positive is the voice acting, it's up there with Witcher 3 and cyberpunk 2077. The animations is good and bad, like the mouths barely moves but the body language is great. The world is very beautiful and diverse. It's well paced. Main mission is "here is a good story then defeat the boss" then they use "fetch quests" to tell you the locations off important vendors or how to use systems bit by bit. So the story doesn't suffer for doing any menial quests, yet. Combat is fun even if I'm bad at it, button smashing is the my way of doing things so far.
The negative is mostly the overwhelming feeling of all the systems and the UI. Even if you don't need to use everything it's still there. I bet you get used to most of it and you can customize almost everything with the UI but I don't know how I want it customized. At least I could make the UI bigger size, could barely read the text at first.
Music is very good to. Overall it's been fun and I feel like I can play at my own pace. As a new player I feel like I'm getting a boost and the help I need from the catch-up systems. So the quality of life changes are working I'll say.
the thing about P2W in BDO is that as you said you can theoretically pay money to speed up your progression, but at a certain point you will hit a ceiling of how much you can actually boost your gear with it.
for a normal P2Wer, that doesn't literally throw tens of thousands of dollars into the game, you wont even reach 700gs, which by today's standards isnt't even remotely close in power to what you need for actual endgame PvP.
Couple that with the fact that a ton of PvP content nowadays is capped, so gear doesn't really matter, and that even if someone would reach like 730gs by paying real money they would have no clue how to actually PvP and the "apparent" issue of P2W is completely negligible.
u can pay for ur gear to level up?
Thank you for this video. I had the game in my library and tried it once when I had an verry old gaming laptop and it was not verry fun. However because of this video I am currenlty downloading the game and cant wait to try it.
I'd love to go back and play this again. When it came out, it was free! I made 2 classes to end game. Love it! Then...poof! It became a Steam thing, lost my account and all its many hours of gears/characters along with it. Now, I'd have to pay for it? and start over...That was the icing on the cake for me.
Now Steam has come out with a few noteworthy games since, but nothing really keeps me grounded in them.
Is it just me? Or games are just not coming out like they use to make them? There's simply not much out there that has a wow factor in terms of "New Releases".
100% agree dude, especially MMO's, lots of the new releases are a disapointment.
I will say with Black Desert, the catch up is very good now. With faster leveling, seasons and fast travel, you might be able to get back to where you were pretty quick. But it still really sucks
As far as P2W, it technically is but reality it isn't. It would be the same as saying that a golfer who plays once a week and has a $20K set of clubs is P2W versus a golfer who plays every day with a $1000 set of clubs. Does it mean that the guy with the $20K set of clubs will win against the guy with the $1K set of clubs? No, it means that he will lose by a few less strokes if the guy playing every day is practice and skilled. There are a lot of "Trust Fund Kids" that come to the game, whale, get blown up, and then leave.
It's not pw2 at all its just slightly easier in the pve aspect if you pay and leveling pvp is still skill based
You get advantage if you pay, tent and value pack alone are huge advantage compared to someone who doesn't have those, then there is fairy and pets and crons. It is cope if you think it is not p2w
@Ziegeri you can get fairy for free pets for free maid and butter (about 4+) for free and any horse for free. All paying does is give you a small boost to pve leveling content pvp is still all skill based so quit yapping as if you know what your talking about
@@AbstractElement Only small percentage of the playerbase cares about PvP. Grinding is what people do 99% of the time even if they care about PvP, and for grinding you absolutely get insane advantage if you spend money. You are delusional if you think 30% tax reduction from value pack is not significant.
Oh and you are right, I completely forgot about maids, with those you don't even need to leave the grinding place, and no you don't get enough of them to do that f2p.
@Ziegeri I legit have 5 maids as fully f2p so yeah you do get enough I'm only currently level 62 but eh. And you can get value packs for free after updates but tax reduc doesn't really matter money is so ez to grind you can get billions in an hour or so
For me, pay to win is you somehow get to a point where you can't advance further (or beat other paying player) until you pay yourself. On bdo you can generally get to the same point as paying player, they just get there faster
ive paid some money in the game for pets 1-2 cosmetics, a tent. I have never felt better or faster than a dedicated grinder. You got pets and costums from events. I've got my dreamhorse from an event. Basicly if you pay A LOT then you can gear up faster. Time is the only thing you can buy in this game.
Very very good review! So refreshing! Thank you!
Wish you showed more of the world, scenery, cities though..
awesome video! it's great being back in bdo and seasons make it so much easier to catch up gear wise
Experience player here, i spend thousand of hours in this game grinding, joining raid with weekly guild boss and monthly raid, level up all the life skill to artisan, some character is on level 68, setting alarm for the ingame world boss and trading system, PC is online 24/7 because we got afk grinding for life skill. Not to mention I have spend tons of real money for outfit but at the end I stop playing it at all because I am too busy and the grinding is not life friendly. You going to spend hour on your laptop grinding in this game until you forgot you have real life and you need to grind that as well.
I absolutely love this game and ve played it over 4 thousand hours, but if you guys value your time and life stay the hell out of it.
Probably the best mmorp around. Everyone can find his cup of tea in BDO.
Grinding for "endgame" gear is not the only thing to do nor the best. Just play the game, the entire journey is nice.
Wow, I may have to come back and check out the changes. I played from launch until after little after the DK launch (lvl 62 DK - then stopped). Looks like some great changes!
YOU NOW GET A FREE DREAM HORSE?! This was literally my only ingame goal a few years ago, but I never even got close to it because you needed to spent do much IRL money for thr right skills..
Yes the end game is all about grinding for mats and currency. What he failed to mention is that you have to deal with the open world PvP. Which is a major part of the end game grinding and is very unbalanced.
Ive played this game on and off for some years. And the only thing that i see that absolutely holds the game back is that grinding is the only way to progress pretty much. While the combat is the absolute best to ever do it. Just the simple fact i have to literally go in circles for thousands of hours killing mobs is just awfully boring. This is by far the best combat in any mmo but its sad how they choose to utilize it. Everything else in the game is totally fine. Only thing that makes people quit is how boring the grind is. If there was other means to progress the game would be perfect and most likely have the biggest player base of any mmo ever created. With so much exciting combat and pvp, the game at its core is just boring. Thats why most people quit. Imagine ur fresh out season 540 gs trying to reach 680-700 so u can atleast be viable. So u just grind mobs for about 40 hours to hit 600. Then u realize ur still too weak to do pvp (which is arguably the most fun thing in the game) so u literally just have to go in circles for like 100-200+ hours (most likely alot longer like 1000+ because u wont be so lucky when it comes to rng) to just hit 680-700 gs. Thats just incredible boring to go through just to only be able to do meaningful pvp 1-3 times a week. Theres other pvp but its kind of meaningless and gets boring after an hour or two. And I’ve talked to people that are 700+ and they always tell me i dont know why i chose to grind so long. Most of them dont even know why they kept playing the game. They tell me id have a better time just reaching 620-640 and only doing capped pvp because pushing further is just a dreadful experience of circle grinding boredom. Thats my ONLY issue with the game.
Its also worth mentioning most players/guilds that do have gear still play capped nodewars anyway( except the strongest guilds) so it may not even be worth to go higher than tier 3 cap requirements.
Absolutely correct. I logged on occasionally just to lifeskill and wish they would put more effort into other aspect of the game not just grinding. The game has so much other thing to do yet only way to gear up quicker is through thousand hours of grinding and that is incredibly boring. I wouldn't put myself in that situation and suffer when I was suppose to be having fun playing the game.
Now that its capped u dont need to grind much, as long as u dont become addicted to it you can just log in for pvp and do some other stuff and have fun. Theres no need to grind so much like before, its great now
I would agree on the combat being one of the best if desync and lag weren't an issue; combat in bdo is fairly overrated
As a new player in that game i have 2 questions:
- On PS5 are many players online nowadays?
- How is the PVP content in that game ? Primary on PS5
Thanks 😅
i felt really overwhelmed the last time i decided to try years ago. i had no clue what the rewards are used for i was getting from pass and the bag was weighing down i remember. the nodes were the last nail in the coffin so dropped it coz i wanted to get into a simpler easy game. this was like a few years back
For me the biggest flaw of BDO is that there's not much danger in the game to worry about. Sure there are huge bulky monsters and swimming creatures but they can't and won't really do much to you to be able to set any meaningful boundaries. there is not much risk.
I just got the game and it seems pretty good to me. I don't really have friends to play MMOs with so it works really well for me
Wish it had dungeons and raids to do with friends
Its does have dungeons
The mobile version of the game has boss rush modes, modes where you can use multiple of your characters together, does the main game have this too?
I’ve only played the mobile version and liked it and want to try the main game but just hoping there’s things to do more than just grind mobs. I like a lot of the solo stuff in the mobile one.
Is the game subscription? one time purchase? f2p? I was hoping that the video would lead with pricing.
Less than 5 seconds in, I know this dude will be fun to watch. Had to insta like and sub xD
I play warframe. I know grind. I’m getting into this 😊
Im 2k hours in warframe i couldnt stand bdos grind its completely pointless and feels like working at a job.
no discord and just turning brain off for solo progression with awesome combat? You've convinced me lol
I always think about trying BDO as a old GW2 veteran, but then i hear about no PvE endgame except grinding... I mean GW2 already has issues with not releasing a lot of Raids. Having nothing and just grinding mobs? that sounds horrible, but i guess to each their own. Like, grinding is fine... but only grind? never be done?
The random chance upgrades sounds a lot like Lost Ark to me. When i reached a 5% chance to hone my gear, i dropped the game. So not looking good for BDO for me.
The game overall looks so cool and the combat looks so extremely good... but those mentioned things are just dealbreakers for me.
Ty for the honest review
biggest flaw of BDO is that you have to destroy your graphics in order to play large scale PvP, or even normal pvp, thats what killed my enjoyment. I can play remastered on every zone even while grinding but for Node Wars i had to go potato mode just to maximize damage (because damage in pvp is calculated by FPS)
Didn't know this game. Now i think it's pretty cool. Once they adjust the RNG and put more endgame content I'll try it out
Very thankful for this video. I got a question tho. Do i really only grind to grind faster? Is there no pvp arena, world bosses or some kind of Dungeon/raid?
There is
I’ll try this game out, tonight! Looking for new MMORPGs to play till “Throne and Liberty” drops.
This is better than TnL.
I quitted since 2019 after ~3 years of endless grind and PvP, node war castle war non stop. When 520GS was considered god tier in BDO ( heard everyone is 720GS++ these days). It crazy how dev make the game more easy and convenient compare to what it initially started with when you grind 1-2 weeks just to hit lv 56 for class acesion and 2 months for lv 60. Personally I enjoyed every single sadist moment BDO gave me praying to RNGesus for TET to 1 weeks grind non stop back to all PRI gears xD.
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I'm not a fan of this type of game genre, but I'm impressed enough to buy it and play it :)
It was free on PlayStation network a few months back, Ive had it laying around the library
Gonna give it a spin , hopefully they have a cleric class
The biggest downside for me is that it is highly addictive and then becomes a full time job, cause there is so much to do and it encourages 24/7 online status. So i have to give it a break every now and then.
Absolute fire info bro, thank you
I haven't played any MMORPG for years.. but previously I reaally really enjoyed Tera Online. It was completely free, didn't require any purchases, and you get free mount and the world was very colorful, huge and I had tons of fun just exploring alone or with an internet-friend. But Tera is gone now, so what would be the equivalent game to that today? Thank you! :)
I just keep coming back to this game.
the combat is cool but like just hitting mobs with same rotation over and over again sucks. I dont even want to play new char as I need to learn new rotation and do the same. They should add some fun crative stuff to the combat grind. I would rather fight one boss for 30 min than hitting roation for 30min.
If they removed that trash upgrade system and replaced it with guaranteed upgrades using drops and simply not upgrading anymore and instead you farm bosses and those Valencia dungeons it would be so much better. So many more people would come back if they did that
🎉😂 people want complain....
I’ll save you 18:35. The game doesn’t have traditional dungeons, and questing is absolutely not intuitive. There are hundreds of quests that will literally reward you with nothing. Enhancing the items you need is AIDS because the items basically never drop and when you finally can upgrade you are betting on like a 4.7% chance to get the upgrade. If the upgrade fails then you lose the level you were at. There’s no real dungeons and pvp is about as bad as you can imagine where there’s people who have the items they need to play and then there’s the rest of us still BETTING on an upgrade.
As long as I don’t have to spend a year to reach decent gear to clear most of the game content I’m fine? Is this possible?
Yes, the season character rewards basically gets you to mid game where you can clear a lot of the content.
not really yull be at the same spot for months
@AandKify You must suck. Because, hasrah can be done with season gear and can be 800 mil an hour. If you played 2 hours a day 5 days a week that's 8.6 bil a week. In a month, that's 35 bil a month or so. You can buy enough gear to move on. Eventually, it slows down, but not till the 680 to 690 gs. You get two rings free, that's 80 bil. A tet blackstar and a pen blackstar. Two free pen armors. Buying your last armors can be done in a month and be on your way to buy accessories. Naturally, making 800 mil just requires mild class familiarity. And I am not counting the insane free shit they hand out like the 6 costumes and what not.
@@crillianmarvin6256 your tits got quite hard there. You went quite fuming all that fuss to tell ppl to grind 2 hours a day fer 5 days a week for a month or so. Considering you know what to do from the get go. I didnt play this game for a long time and I dont care but sure you do. Go at it shitter.
@@crillianmarvin6256 This just made me not wanna play it again, ty.
i just wanna attend these wars that goes on, i even tried queuing up for arenas and they said i need an invite plus im only level 57 or 58 saw the new winter dlc but man i hate the grind
I mainly stopped hecause of issues with the ps4, as unfortunately i am a console peasant lol then i did get a next gen...but there isnt cross save - and i got the xbox s.
Thennnnnnnn lowkey avoided starting again because of the lack of players on console 😅
I miss the grind, funny enough, so i am kind of just returning to having to start over and at least they addressed and changed so much that was daunting about starting over, and it can help me avoid the issues at the end game a little longer 😂
a tent - lootpets - inventory space AND weight - u need it to play the game properly
Tent you get pets you get space you also get just keep on playing my wife is f2p player no problems with the amount of event going on
I would say getting maids is better because you share it across all of your characters unlike weight. and like the person above said you should be good on pets because of how much events we get. And for tents you can spend 14mil (I’m forget the cost) at a old moon person every seven days and you’ll get a temporary tent
This information was helpful because I like slow solo progression.
Was going to buy for $0.99 until I got just past 0:43, Say no more...
I've had my eye on this game a few times, but never played it.
Now from the same makers, a new game is in the making i will definitely buy: CRIMSON DESERT
Great video with proper explanation, thank you so much
The thing is i really really liked the combat system.. but the game was just way too overwhelming.. like.. there is too much to do.. and the grind is crazy
My only problem with BDO is huge desync , like ship stuck at dock,
I was crazy with sea content when it out. Ramming Candidum at 4am with guildmate,
Sadly more and more ship desync become unbearable, cant even afk without thrown out of my own ship
When you pay for something and it just speeds up your progress, thats not pay 2 win.
Pay 2 win is when you buy things that are otherwise unachievable using ingame time/currency, is not that right ?
You are wrong; a pay2win game is a game in which you can spend real life currency to get an advantage over people who don't.
No, if you can buy anything besides skins for real money, then it's p2w, people are just making up stuff because they are coping hard
BDO player here, I would like to add something about the p2w. Yes, you can p2w in this game, but no sane player would like to hurt their wallet for this game, unless you're clueless or making contents (like this guy: "www.youtube.com/@erkulez" )
If your definition of p2w = pay for convenience, then yes, it is p2w, again. But does this affect your player experience up to the point that you can't compete and play? Well, not really, but sometimes it does feel annoying without the convenience stuffs. Though most of the convenience they gave you for free.
do you still look the same as lv 1 and max level because there is only equip in the shop that change your appearance?
this is one of my big issues with the game
@@_loss_ same
you do
Can we do all of the things mentioned in this video in Throne and Liberty too?
I was a Vindictus addict back in the day, but after some years of playing I quit because of the lack of open-world... Now, everytime I come back to this game I'm overwhelmed, while I love its gameplay, I dislike the game as a whole... so if you guys know about any mmo with similar combat but without forced pvp, some extra crap and grind-hell like bdo, please tell me.
Thats the thing.. BDO has no competition in terms of combat in the MMO scene until today.. that's why some pvp vets on the game is hesitant to quit.. theres no current MMO that satisfy the combat feel like BDO does.. maybe there is but theres no point in playing if it is a dead game(Dragons Dogma Online for example).. so yeah hopefully the upcoming Chrono Odyssey can compete.
Dye is either ten dollars a month, or you spend about 500$ to get the colors you want. so yeah, no
merve's palette has been integrated into the value pack, you don't have to buy it separately any longer.
@@beyasal Fair but I don't think it's moral to charge people to rent dye in a game at around a rate of 10$ per month even if a bonus pack lowers the cost, and just the purchasing of dye in general is kind of a scam by forcing us to by random roll dye boxes that won't give us our color without 1000 purchases, the game is sadly still very predatory in it's monetization.
Or yk you get it for free like I have
@@mokeishvalue pack is what subs in other MMO,
So basically Dye is free, if you pay subscription
Is there a difference with original website version and steam version ?
Will download it now ,i think its similar to the first descendant and i would play any game thats similar to it ❤
I just started playing 4 or 5 days ago, so far I'm liking it.
Bro you are giga coping with the p2w stuff lol, you can buy advantage with money? yes, then it's p2w, there is no such thing "pay for convinient" or other made up words lol, only p2w or no p2w, no p2w is no xp for money, no item for money, no currency for money, just only skins, p2w is currency, xp boost, item, gold etc for money
Btw the amount of delusional people in the comments about p2w is beyond insane, if you can buy stuff other than skins, then game is p2w, 99% of you don't understand what p2w means lol
I want to play sea content only, but I can't grind all those quests and levels before it
Will I get the dream horse as a returning player? I only played for a while, I was a level 55 ninja, a few more mobs til 56.
I believe so! I came back after about a year and got one for free :)
dream is a permanent item u can get :3
How’d you clear your hud like this? I like h to e minimalist thang
when i bought this game on release, i thought it would be like FFXIV online where i can play with other people. so my brother got it too. at that time, we weren't able to team up and play together. so we played for a few minutes and quit. so is it still the same? basically solo?
You can just add him to your party. You guys were probably on the same server but different channels
@@ShepyGrizzso is it difficult to play online with randoms ?
@@Cutiejuliya There just isn't really content designed for large groups. There are some world bosses, I think that's pretty much it.
Just want to ask if BDO has PVP arena, like Dragon Nest where you can pvp to your hearts content w/out worrying about equips or stats?
BDO has an arena where you use arena gear so everyone is on equal levels.
The more you play the arena, the more gear you unlock, but again, arena specific gear. its not stronger, just differen types of builds.
there is also guild arena's where u can GvG 10v10.
There are nodewards with capped gear all the way to uncapped gear.
There are sieges.
There is openworld pvp, but its heavily punished nowadays.
ect.
Like the aestethics of this game, but can`t really get into an mmo. Crimson desert looks amazing tho.
So, why o you become strong in this game?? if ther is no torunement , no sieges, no raids
Thats why i stopped playing actually. When you get stronger you get to be able to grind at a harder grindspot and goes on and on like that and the lonely grind apparently never ends. When i noticed that i stopped playing immediately.
If it ever becomes free to play maybe i'll get into it, until then.....
After spending around 20hrs into the game, all I have to say about this game are: gameplay is shallow, have no clue what am I doing, too much texts, UI is very overwhelming.
If you like hot chicks and grinding, well then it's a game for you. Graphics look cool but keep in mind that the world feels very empty and unlively. That's my thought after I experienced this game
Grind aside, the rotation of just killing mobs is so repetitive and seems to pose no real challenge once you are at the right level, making everything seem meaningless and boring. I love the nodes and life skills and that is a sandbox MMO that makes you live your character's life there but the game lacks any fun combat (not one-shotting mobs)