Amen! For those who walk in the light, Jesus blood covers them and they cannot be condemned.1Jo 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. 8 ¶ If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
7 “Blessed are they whose lawless acts are forgiven, whose sins are covered. 8 Blessed is the man whose sin the Lord will never count against him.” (Romans 4:7-8) This quote comes from Psalm 32. The context says this: 1 Blessed is he whose transgressions are forgiven, whose sins are covered.b 2 Blessed is the man whose iniquity the LORD does not count against him, in whose spirit there is no deceit (Psalm 32:1-2) The passage then goes on to say: 3 When I kept SILENT my sin, my bones became brittle from my groaning all day long. 4 For day and night my strength was drained as in the summer heat. Your hand was heavy upon me; (Psalm 32:3-4) In these verses the Psalmist "kept silent" and refused to acknowledge, confess and repent of his sins. When He resisted the Holy Spirit CONVICTED Him which means to impress upon his conscience his guilt. Finally the Psalmists relents and surrenders: 5 Then I ACKNOWLEDGED MY SIN acknowledged my sin to You and DID NOT HIDE my iniquity. I said, “I will CONFESS my transgressions to the LORD,” and You FORGAVE the GUILT of my SIN (Psalm 32:5) Here confession of sin is followed by forgiveness from guilt. Notice how close this is to 1 John 1:7-9
I was trying to watch this last night while it was streaming live on RUclips because I wanted to call in but the live stream stopped after about 18 minutes. It is truly sad that people fight against the word of God. Kenneth had all the Scriptures out of context and was clearly contradicting verses. Why are people so wrapped up in Calvinism when they see that it is false doctrine? Regarding Romans 5:12ff, Kenneth seems to be equating sin with death. This passage does not teach that we inherited Adam's sin. It says that death, which is the consequence of sin, is what spread to all men because all sinned. Verse 14 says that death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those who had not sinned according to the likeness of the transgression of Adam. It is not possible to replace the word "death" in these verses with the word "sin". Verse 15 says, "[b]ut the free gift is not like the offense. For if by the one man's offense many died, much more the grace of God and the gift by the grace of the one Man, Jesus Christ, abounded to many". Adam is being compared to Christ. Adam's sin brought death to all the same way Christ brings eternal life to all. This is death vs. life, not sin vs. life. Verse 16 says, "and the gift is not like that which came through the one who sinned." "That which" is referring to death. It could not refer to "sin" because then the verse wouldn't make sense, for example: "And the gift is not like [sin] which came through the one who sinned". No way. The verse is saying that the gift, which is eternal life/salvation, is not like death. Verse 17 says, "for if by the one man's offense death reigned through the one, much more those who receive abundance of grace and the gift of righteousness will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ". Once again, it is the consequence of sin, which is death and not sin itself, that reigns through Adam. Now some will take verse 19 and say that Adam's sin was transferred to us. But notice that the verse ends saying "so also by one Man's obedience many will be made righteous". Can we say that Christ's righteousness was transferred to us? According to Ezekiel 18:20ff, the father's sin or righteousness is not transferred to the son, so the answer to that question would be no. Adam's sin is not transferred to us. We personally sin because of choices we make, and we now have the opportunity to be righteous through Christ if we choose to. I pray Kenneth continues to talk with Johnny so he can learn and accept the truth.
Calvinism is Not a false teaching... maybe false to you because you cannot grasp its concepts?.. lets look at Romans 5:12 12" Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:" what part of this makes you think sin was Not passed from Adam...? Paul is making a comparison here between death that has passed to all men through Adam and Christ unto whom.. all men have life. .at the tree in the Garden God told Adam that if they ate they would die... but as we know.. Adam and Eve did NOT die physically.. but spiritually.. so.. Death is a separation from God. they are one and the same..... if one is separated from God.. what are they?... in Limbo?... NO.. they are in SIN... sin is a separation from God.. and so By Adam all men have been separated from God...
And the belief... is that any who die.. without being cleansed of this original sin.. will die and Go to hell... if we are Not born with the sin of Adam upon us... why do so many claim.. the unbaptized or unsaved are going to hell?.... with only the sins we commit upon us.. all we should have to do is just pray.. and Not be baptized or believe upon Jesus.. why should we.. ?..why do we need to trust in Jesus.. if as 1 John 1:9 tells us He is faithful and just to cleanse us.. from our sins. with no mention of having to trust Him.. or be baptized..?
@@jeffcarlson3269hey donkey. Calvinism is false. John Calvin is a false prophet. Among the religious teachings today is Calvinism. Calvinism consists of five major points known by the acronym: T.U.L.I.P. All five points were popularized by John Calvin and are contrary to Scripture. T - otal Depravity. Calvinists teach that we inherit Adam’s sin, thus born totally depraved. The Bible teaches that men are made “upright” (Eccl. 7:29) and that we have no sin until we commit it (Ezek. 28:15). U - nconditional Election. Calvinists teach a false predestination, that God “elects” certain ones to be saved and the rest lost without man having any part in the matter. The Bible teaches that “whoever fears (God) and works righteousness is accepted by Him” (Acts 10:34-35). L - imited Atonement. Calvinists teach that Christ did not die for everyone, but only for those individuals God predetermined to save. The Bible teaches that Christ “died for all” (2 Cor. 5:14). I - rresistible Grace. Calvinists teach that God’s grace is irresistible for the saved ones. That it is impossible to reject the grace of God if you’re of the elect. The Bible teaches that God’s grace has “appeared to all men” (Titus 2:11), but not all are saved (Mt. 7:21). Some resist. (Acts 7:51) Heb 10:26-27 would make 0 sense either. P - erseverance of the Saints. Calvinists teach “once saved, always saved”, that the saints are preserved and nothing can change it. The Bible teaches the need for faithfulness to the end (Rev. 2:10). To saints it was written, “take heed lest (you) fall”(1 Cor. 10:12).
Check out Demas, left the faith per Apostle Paul. Matthew 7:21, we must obey and do Gods will throughout our life. Doesn't Scripture say it is better to have never known the truth than to obey it and depart from it? ... God is not the author of confusion, its straightforward and simple when we read NT Scripture in whole, not in part. We have assurance when we abide in Christ.
You have to Obey the Gospel!! You can’t please God without faith! Through faith Noah did what Lord said Wants we believe we obey the gospel by being baptized
Death was the consequence of the Fall not a polluted nature. I want to know where God said that, as a consequence of Adam's sin, He would curse man by giving him a SINFUL NATURE and taking away any ability to choose righteousness.
Wow! So one can willfully sin and go to heaven? (Hebrews 10:26) Is each person responsible for their sins? Does God hold a person accountable for their father's sin? Is sin passed on from one generation to the next? Finally, are babies born lost by inheriting original (Adam’s) sin? (Ezekiel 18:4, 20-24)
Kenneth Johnson...........u said we can lie to the HOLY GHOST & die for doing so and if we R SAVED we won't lose our salvation...the bible says all liars will have there place in the lake of fire....sir did simon the saucer have to repent for his sin or could he have not repented for that sin & die & go to heaven,,,didint JESUS say if we die in sin we can't go where HE is...
Acts 16 Paul told to preach the Gospel What does the jailer do after he hears the gospel? He was baptized. Why don’t people bring up sinners prayer or where they ask Jesus in their heart? What verse is that?
Jesus gave an example of a "sinners prayer"..... "And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner. I tell you, this man went down to his house JUSTIFIED rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted." Luke 18:13-14 KJV Here's a sinner that prayed,.... and Jesus said this man went home justified. 😂
After the resurrection of Jesus? Matt 19 Jesus tells that guy to sale everything he has!! Are you going to sale everything you have? Jesus said I go to proper a place for you. I will come again!! Mark 16 he explains what you have to get to Heaven. How come anybody in the Bible listen to God when they are told?? Jacob told to build alter why not just build a ark? Hebrew 11 is faith chapter. Told March around walls j of Jericho. What if they said no I want to build a ark like Noah. Not everyone will enter into the kingdom of Heaven if you don’t do HIS WiLL
@@KingjamesAV1611 Matt 28 says go and preach gospel Mark 16 go preach gospel What do find Peter doing in acts 2? First time ever preaching gospel!!! If you was standing there at that time what would you do? Acts 2:41 says what? You tell Peter different story about Jesus?? Lord added them to his church 2:47 If I want to be member of Baptist church I have to be baptized but if I want to get to Heaven you don’t have to be baptized. It is harder to get in Baptist church then to Heaven????
right what HE does is perfect, his job is done there is nothing left for Christ to do, now it's your turn, ask it, "What must I DO to be saved" Kenneth will tell you nothing.
John 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
the lady caller hit the nail on the head, and here is the rest of it Ez 18: 24 But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die. 25 Yet ye say, The way of the Lord is not equal. Hear now, O house of Israel; Is not my way equal? are not your ways unequal? 26 When a righteous man turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and dieth in them; for his iniquity that he hath done shall he die Yes, a righteous man can fall and lose his salvation...at which point do you lose your salvation, as the Bible states above, here it is..THE MOMENT YOU SIN, AND DIE BEFORE REPENTENCE TAKES PLACE. Kenneth said it again, you can go to heaven even if Satan has filled your heart and you lie to the Holy Spirit. Wow, I've never heard such ridiculousness in all my days, next he'll say Satan's going to get back into heaven. If an angel can fall so can man..Gal 1:8
6153calme, he hasn't read Acts 5:1-11, where Ananias and Sapphira lies to the Holy Spirit, and they dropped dead within three hours of each other. They are the prime example of being saved, and having lost their salvation.
Does it specifically say they lost their salvation or is it you using preconceived ideas added into it? Moses sinned and he didn't lose his salvation Samson didn't lose it Aaron didn't lose it.
@@PatrickBell33 You really think they were killed right there on the spot by lying to Peter then went right to heaven and were saved??!! Wow. That's some crazy theology
We have to surrender and give up our lives to Christ to be saved: 24 Then Jesus told His disciples, “If anyone wants to COME AFTER ME [like a sheep], he must DENY HIMSELF and TAKE UP HIS CROSS and follow Me. 25 For whoever wants to save his life will LOSE IT, but whoever loses his life for My sake will FIND IT [find LIFE]. 26 What will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, yet FORFEITS HIS SOUL? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul? (Matthew 16:24-26) With many Churches it is about theology and not the Savior
Kenneth did a good job to actually come and debate. He did a decent job, but of course he was proved wrong on his Calvinist Doctrine, especially, about dying in a sinful state (adultery). But kudos to him for showing up, and staying on point. Great job to Johnny, as usual.
Who in the Bible lived by faith alone??? Anybody that believed in the Lord done whatever God ask Jacob build a alter, Noah build a ark. Who told God no God it just takes believing?
There is no "original sin" That idea came from Augustine who believed that the propensity to sin was passed down organically specifically through inherited sexual desire (concupiscence). Luther and Calvin who were devotees of Augustine replaced this with the idea of imputed guilt. In this scenario, God holds every individual personally responsible for the personal sin of Adam (including infants and the unborn). This is why they continued to baptize infants.
I did not say I do not believe in the Fall the result of which was first spiritual, then physical death. Spiritual death refers to separation, disunion, from the Spirit of God. This was why mankind must be "born again" "after the Spirit." However, the natural disconnect between God and man could not produce hostile enmity until the human being possessed moral consciousness and acted contrary to it: 12 Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men BECAUSE ALL SINNED- 13 for sin indeed was in the world before the law was given, but SIN IS NOT COUNTED where there is no law. (Romans 5:12-13) Verse 12 in Greek is “ἐφ᾽ ᾧ πάντες ἥμαρτον” which means "BECAUSE (of whom - Adam) all sinned" The fact that we sin is a CONSEQUENCE of Adam's sin. In the corrupt Latin text used by Augustine this phrase was translated “in quo omnes peccaverunt,” that is, “IN WHOM [in Adam] all sinned”. If ALL sinned IN Adam then ALL (even the unborn and children) are guilty of his sin. "Original sin" as conceived by Augustine of Hippo means that every individual born from Adam is held PERSONALLY responsible for the sin of the man Adam. This is why Augustine and those after him believed in infant damnation. Since fetuses and babies were held personally responsible for Adam's sin which was "imputed" to them they could be justly damned having never committed any sin personally. It is the reason for infant baptism also. The Reformers were hung up on this Catholic doctrine because Calvin and Luther were Augustinian theologians. It is why they continued the Catholic practice of Baptising infants. This is the historical theological meaning of "original sin" I believe that the ANCESTRAL sin of Adam has caused us all to be born after the flesh rather than the Spirit. Our character is corrupted not because God is blaming us for Adam's sin but because, as a natural consequence of Adam's sin, no one in his line is born after the Spirit. Our defect is not what was added to our nature but what is MISSING. This being the case, we are not "totally unable" to choose Christ as the Calvinists say. Rather, our bias towards self-centeredness requires that we be persuaded to believe by the Spirit working in concert with the gospel. Because our wills were not rendered INOPERABLE by the Fall we can still choose to believe and obey Him. gentlewisdom.org/augustines-mistake-about-sin/
If there is not original sin from birth, then why did Jesus not have an earthly father?? Ofcourse there is original sin. It's passed down through the dad's. Which is why Joseph was not Jesus dad. The Bible clearly tells you that sin is not imputed when there is no Law. So since an infant can't understand the Law and it's consequences, the baby is not responsible for it. All babies that die, go to heaven!
@@KingjamesAV1611 In order to use the idea of "Original Sin" to make a doctrinal point you first have to understand exactly what is meant by the term. I agree that infants do not sin but if Original Sin is true then they DO have sin because God Himself IMPUTES the sin of Adam TO their "account" This is what Original Sin means. Are you sure you believe it?
@@chicken0619 Yes. Have you ever considered the assumptions that must be made to date a rock using the given methods? Did you know that if one uses different methods to date the same rock they should get the same answer. Instead they often get answers with margin of error in millions of years, that don't even overlap. Without an observer, there's no way to know how much material was present in the beginning, rather or not there was contamination, or if the decay rate has been constant since the beginning. Because there are so many assumptions, it's not science.
@@Dflonn I heard something about these soft tissue in dinosaurs; that is so exciting to hear. I heard something about PBS having something on Nova. I cannot find it on Demand with my cable company. Do you know where I can watch this or have an article I can read; I as of yet have not searched for any articles; thanks for your help.
The Bible doesn't contradict itself. Faith only? The devils BELIEVE. Will you believe Jesus? Jesus said, Believe John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. Repent Luke 13: 3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. Confess Him MATT 10:32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. 33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. Be Baptized Baptism Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Once Saved Always Saved is True. John 6:28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? 29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent. 30 They said therefore unto him, What sign shewest thou then, that we may see, and believe thee? what dost thou work? 31 Our fathers did eat manna in the desert; as it is written, He gave them bread from heaven to eat. 32 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven. 33 For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world. 34 Then said they unto him, Lord, evermore give us this bread. 35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst. 36 But I said unto you, That ye also have seen me, and believe not. 37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. 38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. 39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. 40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. 41 The Jews then murmured at him, because he said, I am the bread which came down from heaven. 42 And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? how is it then that he saith, I came down from heaven? 43 Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Murmur not among yourselves. 44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. 45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me. 46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father. 47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life. 48 I am that bread of life. 49 Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead. 50 This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die. 51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world. Ephesians 2:8-9 King James Version 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. John 10:27-29 King James Version 27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
Nevertheless, Hebrews is instruction for believers, Jews and Gentiles, who had been united together Christ into one body. Although it was addressed to a group of JEWISH believers you cannot say that nothing whatsoever in the book applies to Gentiles. To say this is to deny that for Gentiles, the OT is NOT "profitable for doctrine, reproof, instruction in righteousness." Look at Hebrews 3:1:Therefore, holy brothers, who share in the heavenly calling,.. What people is this describing? Does it not include ALL Christians or would it ONLY apply to believers with Jewish roots? The warnings of departing from Christ apply to ALL believers. In 1 Corinthians Paul says the lessons drawn from the OT apply to both Jews and Gentiles: …10 And do not complain, as some of them did, and were killed by the destroying angel. 11 Now these things happened to them EXAMPLES and were written down as WARNINGS for us, on whom the fulfillment of the ages has come. 12 So the one who thinks he is standing firm should be careful not to FALL.…(1 Corinthians 10:11)
Sorry Jim, try reading in context. Jesus LOOSES no one nor does he cast anyone out. Refute these simple verses, Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, How long is this seal, Holy Spirit on the believer for? Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. The day of what? So who removes the seal?
30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, in whom you were sealed for the day of redemption (Ephesians 4:30). A seal was a mark of authenticity. Gods mark which he has affixed or attached to us to show that we belong to Him is the Holy Spirit. The idea that nothing can cause a rift in our relationship to the Spirit is proved in this verse. This is what "grieving" the Spirit is all about. So the seal is not an unbreakable weld that holds us to Christ no matter what we do. Seals in the first century were not made of iron but wax that could become detached if the person who bore it did take care of it. If that happened the sealed item would be declared invalid. The kind of offense that grieve the Spirit are listed in the next verse 31Get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger, outcry and slander, along with every form of malice (Ephesians 4:31) The Day of Redemption is when we receive our inheritance of eternal life (Romans 8:23). Hebrews 3 warns believers not to harden their hearts against the Spirit Paul in Hebrews three uses the Wilderness generation as a comparison to our walk with Christ. Hebrews 3:7-11 warns us not to harden our hearts and rebel against the Spirit (who is our seal). 12 Take care, brothers, lest there be in any of you an evil, unbelieving heart, leading you to fall away from the living God. 13 But exhort one another every day, as long as it is called “today,” that none of you may be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin (Hebrews 3:12-13) Their ongoing habit of sin caused the Spirit to bar them from entering their inheritance. 18And to whom did he swear that they would not enter his rest, but to those who were disobedient? 19 So we see that they were unable to enter because of unbelief (Hebrew 3:18-19). The "rest" was their inheritance - The Land. Our inheritance is eternal life. Just as they lost their inheritance through having an evil, unbelieving heart so can we lose ours. As they were separated from the Spirit so can we.
Another scripture you have misinterpreted is John 6:37 which in the KJV reads "All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will IN NO WISE cast out." Here is a case where the KJV gets it right and the other translations are ambiguous if not wrong. "IN NO WISE" according to the archaic definition found in the Oxford Dictionary meant: "not at all." It did not reverence the future as the word never does. Rather it is an intense negation. A close rendering can be found in the NASB "All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will CERTAINLY NOT cast out." Like the KJV this does not speak of the future but it expresses intensive negation. What is confusing is that the word "never" can mean something that might happen in the future. The Greek text does not refer to the future instead it uses a DOUBLE-NEGATIVE to intensify the negative much as we would say "by no means." Notice the double-negative in the Interlinear Greek: biblehub.com/interlinear/john/6-37.htm What Jesus is saying is that those the Father gave him WOULD come to him IN THE FUTURE and WHEN THEY CAME to Him He would BY NO MEANS cast them out. He is not saying that once a person is received into the Lord's fellowship they would never be cast out again. This scripture does not support OSAS
Reading into this Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. It clearly says until the day of redemption. You can only grieve the Holy Spirit before you come back to the Lord. Where in this verse does it say it falls off? it sticks to you till the day of redemption. Dance all around this but you have no legs to stand on. God seals us period. Only way this seal comes off is when God calls the believer home. The seal means ownership. saved people are bought & paid for.It wont fall off due to sin. Jesus is not a liar,man is. John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. John 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. John 6:39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. John 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. Jesus right here says he looses no one or cast out none. You have nothing to stand on,yet you will come back with other scriptures. again,they will be out of context as well. Jesus is no liar, The one teaching you salvation can be lost is a liar. Look and see what conditions are on God's free gift of salvation.
1 Cor. 15:22, "For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive." Every man will die. Not because every man has sinned. Babies have not sinned, but babies die, sometimes. The curse of Adam insures our bodies will die with or without our sinning. But Adam's sin does not affect our spirit. Our spirits come from God, Hebrews 12:9. And they are Pure until we sin, then we die spiritually and are doomed. Thank God for Jesus Christ. That we can be made alive in Him.
is how are these different: 'choosing' to believe 'confessing' Jesus 'repenting' of sin 'being' imersed 'remaining' faithful which is not commanded of God? is one more important? are these things from man or God? but the real question is how much does grace cover? why not just do what God says instead of trying to convince people what they don't have to do?
it looks like an older debte, look at the end oct 28. Moreover, I like how Johnny post old videos of him preaching, I hope he can post more of those old school videos.
Not every sin is willful - Numbers 15:24-29 "Then it shall be, if ought be committed by ignorance without the knowledge of the congregation, that all the congregation shall offer one young bullock for a burnt offering, for a sweet savour unto the LORD, with his meat offering, and his drink offering, according to the manner, and one kid of the goats for a sin offering. 25 And the priest shall make an atonement for all the congregation of the children of Israel, and it shall be forgiven them; for it is ignorance: and they shall bring their offering, a sacrifice made by fire unto the LORD, and their sin offering before the LORD, for their ignorance: 26 And it shall be forgiven all the congregation of the children of Israel, and the stranger that sojourneth among them; seeing all the people were in ignorance. 27 And if any soul sin through ignorance, then he shall bring a she goat of the first year for a sin offering. 28 And the priest shall make an atonement for the soul that sinneth ignorantly, when he sinneth by ignorance before the LORD, to make an atonement for him; and it shall be forgiven him. 29 Ye shall have one law for him that sinneth through ignorance, both for him that is born among the children of Israel, and for the stranger that sojourneth among them."
Sir you say that because that’s what you been taught from that church the Christ the church of Christ got you before the lord did seek the Lord for yourself from pastor Bobby Anderson
@@pastorbobbyanderson my journey started in the denominational churches and my attitude changed from " what am I looking for in a church?" to "what is the Lord looking for in His Church?" I say he did an excellent job because he has rightly divided the word of truth.
Desmon Flonnory are you sure you’re following the right thing when I got saved driving down the road calling on the Lord with all my heart I felt him come in my heart and save me He changed me from that moment on I feel him on a pretty regular basis and I have peace in my heart he’s my father he will never on save me I didn’t have to get baptized in water from Pastor Bobby Anderson take me out on RUclips or email me yet pastorbobbyanderson@gmail.com My son-in-law is a Church of Christ he’s a good man but we don’t agree in scripture that’s OK as long as he believed with all his heart he saved he can get baptized in water as much as he wants
@@pastorbobbyanderson I believe that Saul felt he was right in his heart when he was persecuting the Christ. When he reasoned the things he had seen with the prophecies he knew, he obeyed that form of doctrine, the gospel of Jesus Christ. If I obey from the heart like they did in the 1st century, I will be a Christian like them. No matter how my emotions run.
Desmon Flonnory We have to obey in our heart that Form of doctrine just believing by faith and repenting they go together and once we do ,God saves our soul and we cannot sin on the inside therefore I’ll never be considered a sinner in eyes of God again He seal me with that Holy Spirit of promise , that seal cannot be broken he’s the author and the finisher of my faith I’m kept by the power of God I don’t keep myself saved I’m saved eternally because his seed remain in me and I cannot sin that’s in the soul , The soul that sin it shall die my soul cannot sin but my flesh can, I have to die daily but if I sin ,it’s in the flesh not the soul I’m still saved But I’ll have to give an account to God for the way I live down here ,Once saved always saved
The first man is calling God a liar. Jesus said, For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, Jesus, that WHOSOVER, believeth in Him, should not perish, but Have everlasting life. How long does everlasting life last? Forever. If we could save our selves, by good works or keeping the law, then Jesus died in vain. Galatians 2:21. Colossians 2:13 We are made perfect through faith in Jesus who has forgiven us ALL trespasses. We still reap what we sow, and God does chasten His children. John 1:12. But He can not condemn us. John 3:18. We can lose our life, and our rewards in heaven, but not eternal life. First Corinthians 3:11-21. God can not lie. John 5:24. First John 1:8 If we say we have no sin, we deceive our selves and the TRUTH is not in us. All men are sinners. Jesus died for sinners. First John 2:2 and First Timothy 2:4 For God is not willing that any should perish, but that all that should come unto the knowledge of the truth. First Corinthians 15:3-4. That Christ died for our sins, (Which ones) (all of them, past, present, and future, Romans 4:7-8. according to the scriptures, that He was buried and rose gain on the third day, according to the scriptures. The second we believe that Gospel we are sealed by the Holy spirit and are given eternal life. Ephesians 1:13-14 Our guarantee of eternal life. Gods word. John 6:47. Ephesians 2:8-9 Faith is not a work. it is faith apart from works which can not save a sinner which we all are. Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the Holy Spirit in whom ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. If you can lose eternal life, then you must be able to do something to save yourself. If you can save yourself, then Jesus died for nothing. The GIFT of God is eternal life. What do you have to do for a free gift? Nothing. Romans 4:5. Let God be true and every man a liar. First Corinthians 1:21 We preach the foolishness of the gospel to save them that believe. Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, (First Corinthians 15:3-4) For it is the POWER of God unto salvation to everyone that repents of their sin and is baptized. NO, it is to everyone that believeth, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. Galatians 1:7-9 Though we are an angel from heaven preach any other gospel unto you than that we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received from us, let him be accursed. Romans 11:6 AMAZING GRACE, JESUS PAID IT ALL AND WE PAID 0. IT IS FREE, or not at all because no sinner can pay his own debt. Since Christ died for my sins, I can not go to hell to pay for them. I have no sins to pay for. The blood of Jesus paid my sin debt in full and I can no longer be condemned. John 3:18 I can be chastened by my heavenly father even to loosing my life, but not the free gift of eternal life by faith alone in Jesus finished work on the cross alone apart from any works. May Gods word stand. John 6:40. And this is the will of Him who sent me, that ALL that seeth the Son, and believeth on Him, may have everlasting life, and I will raise him up on the last day. Gods word.
1, Sir if the person is not a member of your church of Christ. do you mean he is going to hell? 2, if a person in his death bed and no more time to get baptized it means the person going to hell. because he is not baptized by the water?
Let us let Jesus answer from his own Words, Mark 16:16 " He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned." No death bed confessions, get right, right now while you have time. John 3:5 " Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God" 1 Peter 3:21 " The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:”
I must answer to say that no one needs to be part of a congregation with a name _called_ *Church of Christ* or *International Church of Christ* or *House of Prayer* to go to heaven. Baptism in water is not a pre-requisite for salvation.
@@lindahutchens8612 That question, although genuine is misplaced, given that the verse is well known to have been an addition to the gospel account according to Mark. This statement is not my own but even of the earliest church fathers including individuals like Eusebius and Jerome and Clement of Alexandria. I would state that your question does not come from a wholistic understanding of church history and even verses 9-20. So your question, although well intended is problematic for several reasons including: 1. It isn't original to the author. 2. If you happen to represent the Church of Christ, your position on the remainder of the verses of Mark 16:16-20 are inconsistent with your position on verse 16; as you hold to a consistent view of baptism but not a consistent view of signs and wonders. 3. If I granted that these were the words of Jesus, you would need to understand how baptism is part of salvation from a 1st century Jewish perspective; for it is not the cause of one's salvation but part of the path of discipleship. So no, I do not account Jesus as having lied, I do however, account for verses of scripture having been added to account for words of Jesus that were not heard by the original hearers. I also do not hold that the scribe who added these verses to be an evil doer.
@@ekco05 I will stick with what Jesus said in Mark 16:16. I have another question for you why was Paul baptized in Acts 22:16? And do you believe I Peter 3:21 that says baptism doth also now save us or do you believe baptism doth also NOT save us and if you believe the second one, where is the scripture that says baptism doth NOT save us. Also how is one added to the church and please use scripture.
This man has no idea what Original Sin is. Original sin was invented by AUGUSTINE to explain why infants had to be baptized. Since they have no sin Augustine made their sin out to be GOD imputing to the infant the sin of Adam to all his decedents. This is why Reformed Churches baptize infants - to free from (original) sin.
The Bible makes the ACT of physical immorality WORSE than a mere lustful thought: "Now the body is not for sexual immorality but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body. 14And God both raised up the Lord and will also raise us up by His power. 15 Do you not know that your BODIES are members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ and make them members of a harlot? Certainly not! 16 Or do you not know that he who is joined to a harlot is one body with her? For “the two,” He says, “shall become one flesh.” 17 But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him. 18 Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is OUTSIDE THE BODY, but he who commits sexual immorality sins AGAINST HIS OWN BODY. 19 Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? (1 Corinthians 6:15-19)
So much of this argument is predicated on if you commit A SIN and don't repent of it, and die immediately afterwards then- are you automatically bound for hell? Given the Scriptures in Hebrews 6, 10, and 2 Pet 2:20 why would a "Christian" be willing to risk it? And yet we do. King David willfully committed the sin of Adultery, was faced with an unwanted pregnancy then plotted the eventual murder of a innocent man. According to the Law of Moses, these were Capital Offenses punishable by Death. BUT GOD gave King David an opportunity to Repent. David was Convicted of his sin, then Confessed his sin before GOD and was shown Mercy and forgiven, and GOD later referred to David as a "A MAN AFTER GOD'S OWN HEART" - In Acts 5: 1-10 Ananias and Sapphira were guilty of Lying and Deception ( lesser sins we think, than fornication, adultery and murder) and Peter says " Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart? You lied to the HOLY SPIRIT.... You weren't lying to us but to GOD. As soon as Ananias ( and later Sapphira) heard these words, they fell to the floor and died." Ananias and Sapphira were Christians, however if their HEARTS were FILLED with the Devil- could they still be considered Eternally Saved and now in heaven? JESUS said: "Not everyone who sayeth unto ME, 'LORD LORD" shall enter into the kingdom of heaven but he who DOETH the will of MY FATHER which is in heaven"... Matt 7:21-23 and "These people honor ME with their lips but their HEARTS are far from me" Matt 15:8/ Is. 29:13 "But I THE LORD, search the Heart and examine the Mind even to give each man According to his WAYS And According to The FRUIT of his DOINGS." Jeremiah 17:10 so the way I see it, the key to ALL SIN leading towards GOD'S WRATH, is the condition and the ulterior MOTIVES of our HEARTS." And since GOD is the Ultimate Judge of our hearts, then we need to ask HIM to "Create in us, a Pure heart, and to renew a STEADFAST spirits within each of us" Ps. 51:10 because " If we say we have no sin, we are only fooling ourselves and refusing to accept the truth. But if we Confess our sins to HIM, HE is faithful and just to forgive us and to Cleanse us from every wrong. If we claim we have not sinned, we are calling GOD a liar and showing that HIS WORD has no place IN our HEARTS" 1John1:8-10
Lets take a bible scenario. In first Corinthians there was a believer who was sleeping with his fathers wife. Pau said it was so bad that they should bar him from the church and turn such a one over to Satan to kill is flesh so that his Sprit would be saved in the day of the Lord. First Corinthians 5:5 If we go off and live in sin after we have received the free gift of salvation, God does chasten His children, even to taking our life early. We will lose our rewards in heaven, and maybe our life, but once we have been sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, Ephesians 1:13 We can never be lost. John 6:37 He will never cast us out. John 6:39 Jesus has never lost one. Hebrews 13:5 He will never leave us or forsake us. We can leave Him, but He will never leave us. Second Timothy 2:19 The foundation of God is sure, having this seal, (the Holy Spirit) the Lord knoweth them that are His. Romans 8:9 Without the Spirit of God there is no salvation. With the Spirit we can never be condemned. Salvation is a free gift to all that believe on Him as the only way of salvation, because we can not save ourselves by how we live and what we do. That is why Jesus died for us, He loves us, but hates our sin, So He went to the cross to take the punishment we all deserve so that we could be saved by what He did for us.
jim kraft you are portraying God as a needy clingy person by saying he wont leave you even if you left him. You can sin and repent but if you leave him for good then you must await eternal damnation.
Wouldn't it be great if once saved always saved was really true ! Wouldn't it be great if bullets on the battlefield didn't kill Or airplanes never crashed Or Satan never attacks !! We have to resist the devil! But why? Why resist the devil? Why evangelize the world? Why obey the word? If I'm eternally saved and I can't fail to get into heaven then why put on the whole armor of God? I guess I don't need the whole armor of God because I'm eternally saved. What if I sin? Do i need to repent? Why do I need to repent if I'm eternally saved? Do I have to forgive my brother their trespasses? Why if I'm eternally saved I guess I don't. Can I be a Christian homosexual? I guess I could be if I'm eternally saved! There is no end to this madness of once saved always saved Obey Jesus go to heaven Obey the devil go to hell - Matthew Meinecke, February 2018
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 1 Corinthians 6:9 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. 2 Corinthians 5:21
If your salvation depends on you and how you live, then you are your own savior and Jesus never was your savior. You will die and go to hell because you have never believed that Jesus paid your sin debt in full. First Corinthians 15:3-4 and First John 2:2 If Jesus paid for all our sins, and he did, then when we accept His salvation by grace we are given eternal life. Salvation is a free gift from God. Romans 6:32 For the wages of sin is death, (and we all sin) but the GIFT of God is ETERNAL LIFE, through Jesus Christ our Lord. If you do not have eternal life right now, you are not saved. If you have eternal life now, you are saved forever. Not till willfully sin, because we all willfully sin. But you take things our of context and try to prove a saved sinner can be lost. What You are saying is Jesus lied. John 6:47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that believeth on me HATH ETERNAL LIFE. John 3:16 You don't believe Jesus said that either. Or John 6:37 or John 6:39 or John 6:40 or John 5:24. Verily, verily I say unto you, he that heareth my word, and believeth on Him that sent me, HATH ETERNAL LIFE, and shall not come unto judgement, but is PASSED FROM DEATH UNTO LIFE.
Johnny seems to think that God the Father forgives and saves people because they are sorry for there sins but God the Father only forgives a person on the basis of what his Son did for us and when a person puts there faith in His Son that person is forgiven Jesus took away sin it has been dealt with once and for all the payment is permanent and He has perfected forever them that are sanctified and His blood sanctifies believers.
Johnny isn't making this "system" up....2Co 7:9 Now I rejoice, not that ye were made sorry, but that ye sorrowed to repentance: for ye were made sorry after a godly manner, that ye might receive damage by us in nothing. 10 For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.
Johnny Robertson yes godly sorrow does produce repentance because it's our sins that Jesus died for. and when a person realizes there guilt and that it was there sin that he died for.there's godly sorrow and you turn to the only way of salvation the Lord Jesus Christ without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sin and all who believe are the children of light
Jesus says your wrong either you receive God's gift through faith and faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God if you don't believe that it's by faith apart from works you will die in your sins
One day, after Moses had grown up, he went out to where his own people were and watched them at their hard labor. He saw an Egyptian beating a Hebrew, one of his own people. Looking this way and that and seeing no one, he killed the Egyptian and hid him in the sand. Exodus 2:11-12. And the LORD spake unto Moses and Aaron, Because ye believed me not, to sanctify me in the eyes of the children of Israel, therefore ye shall not bring this congregation into the land which I have given them Numbers 20:12. Even though Moses killed a man an fell into unbelief, although Rev 21:8 states all murderers and unbelievers will end up in hell, he still made it to heaven Matthew 17:3.
You can loose your salvation. A verse tells us. King James Bible 1 John 1 :7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. IF and that's a big IF. So, you cannot turn aside to live like the filth of the world. That's not living in the light. Living as Christ would have you to live. He knows we fail, but He has made provision to forgive us and let us try again if we mean it. You cannot cannot dress to impress God on Sunday and just be waiting to live like trash later in the week. Sorry friends. He knows. The verse says you're going to have problems when it's your turn in line. Surely no one believes God is going to let sin in Heaven even if someone does believe Jesus is the Son of God.
You missed the emphasis of this verse. Go back and read it again slowly. The verse literally says "fellowship" is what would be hindered, NOT losing your salvation. Basically saying you'll quench the Spirit. But you don't lose it. Totally two different things altogether.
Hey Ben, Victor will still deny John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. John 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. John 6:39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. John 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. SMH!
Still refuse to believe do you? No matter what YOU POST Vic, you are DEAD WRONG! JESUS SAYS I CAST OUT NONE! I LOOSE NONE! So the best you can do is Hebrews 6:4-6? Does this somehow over ride Jesus? You really have no clue do you? Oh my preacher is NEVER WRONG!
Matthew 7:21-23 But Lord, Lord, what about all my wonderful works? Why we even cast out demons in your name and did many wonderful works. And then I will tell them, depart from me ye that work iniquity, I never knew you. Not I did know you and now I don't, I never knew you. Jesus tells us in verse 21 why they were not saved. They did not do the will of the Father. John 6:40 And this is the will of Him who sent me, that all that seeth the Son, and believeth on Him, may have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day. The Gospel. First Corinthians 15:1-4 That Christ died for our sins, according to the scriptures, that he was buried and rose again on the third day, according to the scriptures. Galatians 1:7-9 Though we or an angel from heaven preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let them be accursed. As we said before, so say I again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that which ye have received, let them be accursed. These men are preaching another gospel that saves no one. It is based on their good works and not on what Jesus has done for us on the cross. It gives the glory to man for saving himself instead of to Jesus finished work on the cross for saving us sinners. They are self righteous hypocrites believing they have no sin. First John 1:8 IF we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. First John 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God, that ye may know ye HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. These liars are calling God a liar. John 6:47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that believeth on me HATH ETERNAL LIFE. Don't call my savior a liar. It really upsets me. If it upsets me, think how it upsets God. He is the one that sent His only Son to die for our sins so that we could be saved by what He did for us. Not by what we do. We can not save ourselves. Romans 11:6
It still holds true today. Galatians 2:21 I do not make void the grace of God, for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain. Keeping Gods laws can not save sinners. Only Jesus blood sacrifice for all our sin can save sinners which we all are to a degree because no one is perfect in the flesh. We can only accept salvation as a free gift of God by grace, not by anything we do or do not do, our works. This is what so many do not understand. First Corinthians 15:1-4 is the gospel we must believe to be saved. That Jesus died for all our sins. He paid our sin debt in full and when we believe that gospel we are saved, given the Holy Spirit who is our righteousness before God, and He will not longer impute sin to our account. Romans 4:6-8 Romans 4:2 If Abraham were justified by works, he would have something to glory in, but not before God. We can only be justified by faith in Jesus plus nothing. We are born in to Gods family when we believe the Gospel. Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after ye heard the word of truth, the Gospel of your salvation; in whom also, AFTER ye believed, ye were sealed with that Holy Spirit of promise. Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the Holy Spirit in whom ye are SEALED UNTO THE DAY OF REDEMPTION. Once we have been born into Gods family by faith alone in Christ alone, we are given eternal life. First John 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God, that ye may know ye have eternal life. That verse is only for those who believe that they have no sins to pay for because Jesus has paid our sin debt in full. John 6:47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that beleiveth on me hath eternal life. John 6:40 And this is the will of Him who sent me, that ALL that seeth the Son, and beleiveth on Him, may have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day. We are sealed by the Holy Spirit the minute we believe the gospel and can never be lost. John 6:39 Jesus has never lost one. Hebrews 13:5 He will never leave us or forsake us. Second Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless, the foundation of God is sure, having this seal, (the Holy Spirit) the Lord knoweth them that are His. John 10:28-29. No one can pluck us our of Jesus hand or our heabenly fathers hand. Those who do not believe in eternal security, are trusting in their works to save themselves. They are in effect their own savior believing salvation is by keeping the law and doing good works. But as good as those things are, they can not save us. Only Jesus can save sinners. So they like the Pharisees go about trying to establish their own righteousness by keeping the law and doing goo works, Matthew 7:21-23 Jesus said, many will come before Him on that day and tell Him about all their good works, They even cast out demons in His name. But, Jesus said He did not know them. Why, Because they did not believe on Him as the only way of salvation by grace, and never received the Gift of the Holy Spirit. We can not save our selves by how we live and what we do, we can only be saved by what Jesus did plus nothing. We have noting to boast in because we did nothing for it. Jesus paid I all and we paid 0. It is free and that is the only way we can accept it. Romans 11:6 It is all grace, what Jesus did for us, not works, what we do or do not do. You can not mix law/works with grace, One work cancels grace.
The Hebrew writer was speaking to Jewish converts that were being pressured in to going back to animal sacrifices. They were saved and had the free gift of eternal life, but were going to loose the blessing and trodden underfoot the Son of God with the sin of unbelief. But they had not lost their salvation. We have to start with the simple truths of the bible and go on from there. We know from Paul's writings that we are saved and are given eternal life when we believe the gospel. Ephesians 2:8-9, Ephesians 1:13, Ephesians 4:30, and Second Timothy 2:19. What if we loose our faith and walk away? Second Timothy 2:13 If we believe not, He abideth faithful, He can not deny Himself. (His Holy Spirit that lives in the believer. First John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doeth not commit sin, because His seed (the Holy Spirit) remaineth in Him, and He can not sin, because HE is born of God. First John 1:8 If we say we have no sin, we deceive our selves and the truth is not in us. We know the Holy Spirit that we received at salvation can not sin, but we still do. Paul even said He still sinned because of sin that still dwells in the believer. Romans 7. He even said He was yet carnal. But then He wrote Romans 8 where He said nothing can separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord. We always have to keep the bible in context. James was written to the twelve tribes of Israel scattered abroad. The first verse tells us so. Hebrews was written to the Jewish converts. Not to Gentile believers although there are some things in both books that pertain to us.
@@jimkraft9445 When was Saul who later become the Apostle Paul saved? He told his own conversion story and had to be baptized in Acts 22:16. What was the purpose of his baptism according to Acts 22:16?
Ephesians 1:13-14 We are baptized by the Holy Spirit when we trust Jesus as our savior. In whom ye also trusted, after ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, in whom also AFTER ye believed, ye were sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise. Our guarantee of eternal life. Acts 11:16. Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how He said, John indeed baptized with water, but ye shall be baptized by the Holy Spirit. Water baptism never saved anyone. It is Jesus blood sacrifice for our sins that saves us. John 3:16-18. Romans 3:26-28 Romans 4:5-8. But to him that worketh not, but believeth on Him who justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for HIS righteousness. We have to be as righteous as God to go to heaven, and no one is. But when we trust him alone apart from any works, He imputes His perfect righteousness to our account. And our sin debt is paid in full, past, present, and future sins we have not even thought of yet. First John 1:8 IF we say we have no sins we deceive ourselves and the TRUTH is not in us. John 6:47. First John 5:13 These things have I written unto you that BELIEVE on the name of the Son of God, that ye may KNOW YE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE.
Salvation is eternal thats what Jesus died for God wants christians to know they have eternal life not guess or wonder the hope of the believer is sure if you don't have that settled you might want to examine yourself to see if in the faith
Adam - Noah - man today Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come. 5:17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.) 5:21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.
You can't serve Jesus without gray so it's grace are you saved through faith and that not of yourselves at least any man should boast so Johnny you can't serve God without having the grace of God and you only can receive the grace of God is by putting your faith in the finished work of the Lord Jesus Christ, basically I'm looking at a dead man walking there's no hope for you always searching in the Scriptures but never finding salvation how sad is that Johnny remember we told you but you didn't believe
the whole point of the Ephesians second baptism is lost in this conversation.. first of all the caller is ignorant... Yes Baptism is important.. it is a representation.. equally as important as the Lord's table... but the Ephesians.. need to be baptized again... because.. they were baptized.. by John.. for repentance of their sins.. they were Not baptized in baptismal waters because they Knew or even heard of Jesus.. that was what Paul was getting at.. the Ephesians.. needed to be baptized.. AFTER they knew and trusted in Jesus....Not to be saved though!.. but as an act of obedience.. and everyone who trusts in or knows Jesus.. NEEDS to be baptized.. after He is made know to them.. Not beforehand... the Baptism of this day and age.. is an act of fellowship and obedience.. a unification.. of the believers a means of Identifying them with our Savior.. showing we are united in one belief.. Not for salvation purposes though...
THE BIBLE SAYS BAPTISM SAVES US Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is BAPTIZED shall be SAVED; but he that believeth not shall be damned. 1 Peter 3:21 The like figure whereunto even BAPTISM DOTH ALSO NOW SAVE THE US (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ: THIS PROVES WITHOUT A DOUBT THAT BAPTISM IS FOR SALVATION!!!!!!!!
Unforgiveness is a sin that will prevent a Christian from entering heaven. We will not receive forgiveness if we do not forgive; and we will receive forgiveness in the same measure we use in forgiving (or not forgiving) others. We cannot expect God to forgive our debts if we hold other's debts against them. Scripture is very clear on this. After you become saved if you fall into unforgiveness and die without repenting you will go to hell. "12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors." [Matt 6:12 from the Lord's Prayer] Matthew 6:14 For if you forgive men their trespasses, your Heavenly Father will also forgive you. Matthew 6:15 But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive yours.
Would you explain to me how you can loose eternal life? That is an oxymoron. It is impossible to loose eternal life. You may not have ever believed on Jesus as the only way plus nothing to be saved, but you can not loose eternal life. It would no longer be eternal if you could lose it. John 5:24 Verily, verily I say unto you, he that heareth my words, and believeth on Him that sent me, HATH ETERNAL LIFE, (present tense) and shall not come into judgement but is passed from death unto life. John 3:18 Once we believe we can no longer be condemned to hell, only those that have never trusted Jesus as their only savior are not saved. Those that are trusting in their works, what they do to save themselves, are not saved because they have never done the will of the Father. John 6:40
No, we can't, once we have believed the gospel and are sealed by the Holy Spirit Ephesians 1:13 we can never be lost. What if we do walk away and loose our faith? Second Timothy 2:13 If we believe not, He abideth faithful, HE can not deny Himself. His Holy Spirit who lives in the believer. We only actually have to believe it once to be saved forever. Second Timothy, 2:19 Nevertheless, the foundation of God is sure, having this seal, (the Holy Spirit) the Lord knoweth them that are His. Once we have believed on Him as the only way of salvation by grace, we are given the Holy Spirit of promise and can never be lost. John 6:39 Jesus has never lost one. Hebrews 13:5 He will never leave us or forsake us. Even if we forsake Him. John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my words, and believeth on HIm that sent me, HATH ETERANL LIFE, and shall not come into judgement but is passed from death unto life. Eternal life is forever life. If we have eternal life, then if we could loose it it would not be eternal. The writer of Hebrews was writing to Hebrew converts. We have to discern scripture by who it is written to and why. These were Jewish converts who were saved, but about to go into apostasy and under pressure were going to go back to animal sacrifices. It would have been a terrible sin, but all of our sins were paid for and we can not be lost. The Galatians were about to loose their blessing under grace for boasting in the law. But they had only fallen from grace. The truth is we can not fall from grace. Where sin abounds, grace much more abounds. Romans 5:19-21.
Gentiles were never under the law and would not go back to animal sacrifices because we never did that in the beginning. If you believe you can be lost, then you have never trusted Jesus in the first place and are trusting in what you do to save yourself. Not on what Jesus did for you and gives it as a free gift. All believers have been sealed by the Holy Spirit where we are born into Gods family, and can never be lost. John 6:47 Verily, verily I say unto you, He that believeth on me, HATH ETERNAL LIFE. So if you do not have eternal life, you have no believed and are not saved. You simply believe you can save yourself by how you live an what you do. Your works. Romans 11:6 We can only be saved by grace and no works. If you add one work to grace it is no more grace and you were never a believer in the first place. Fist John 5:13 These things have I written unto you who BELIEVE ON THE NAME OF THE SON OF GOD THAT YE MAY KNOW YE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. But you are an unbeliever. John 3:36 All believers have eternal life. All unbelievers are under the wrath of God because they have not believed.
Acts 8:9-24. Simon believed and was baptized, then was warned to repent lest he be lost. Galatians 5 :1-7 by trying to be saved through the works of the law, they have fallen away. Warnings 1 Tim 4:14, Heb 3:12, 1 Corinthians 10:12 2 Peter 2:20-22, James 1:27, Hebrews 3:13 Jude 1:5-7 Causes Adversary Luke 22:31,1 Peter 5:8, Rev 12:9 False teachers Acts 20:29:30 Perverion of the gospel..2Timothy 4 -3-4 Ignorance1 corrinthians 5:6 Trial and trubulation. Mat 13:20-21 vs 22 Choked by the cares of the world. Evil companions. 1 Corinthians 15:33 Wrong priorities. Lay up your treasures Our own influince. Lk 17:1-2 Prevention. Take heed of Gods faithfullness 1 Cor 10:11-14 Grow in Christian graces 2 Peter 1:5- if you do these things, you shall never fall. Encouragement from fellow Christians Hebrews 13:3. Results Ephesians 2:10 good worker is lost. Mt 5:13-16 world loses good influence. Mt 16:26 loses his soul. 2 Peter 2:21 better to have not known. God turned to his own vomit again. The cure James 2:10, Acts 17:30 like 13:3,5 Repent ask for forgiveness Acts 8:24 1 Jn 1:9 confess sins. Salvation secured again. 1 John 1:9, Heb 8:12
The bat this is Roy do you don't have to do anything for salvation except believe it believe the gospel celebration is always a separate issue from anything else with in the Bible salvation is what Jesus has done for you so Johnny you are probably not saved
You first Corinthian's chapter 6 verse nine isn't a list of sends for the believer see this is what do you don't seem to understand you're taking it out of context that is talking about brother and brother are going to a secular cord that you should not do you do that and he was place in shame on one another for doing that look at the list of sins and look at it very carefully don't take it out of context OK this is the list of sins that is always for the unbeliever see if you're a believer you have a nose send your sins are forgiven you this is why Johnny will go to hell because of his unbelief
I knew the first time I laid eyes on this Johnny guy I knew right then and there here's an unbeliever that will never experience the things of happened because he has what you call a reprobate mind
Paul Gross i am surprised that you judge him already. Can you tell me what makes a man saved? I believe he is a Christian just by listening to this short video
Johnny it really doesn't matter you can have all the power you want and you can sit at your table and you can have a 40 but you just don't understand the guy sitting right here next to you has all the authority that he has to have over you you're a nonbeliever and you're not going and I repeat you're not going to have it this is a clear cut case this is your last warning this is your warning this is this this is the state that your in you are an unbeliever that is all you are you can sit there and you can debate whoever you want to debate but when you stand before the Lord Jesus Christ you're going to be standing in front of him as an on believer Mark my words
a single unpure thought sends a Christian to hell. heard that argument a million times. please man pick up the bible a read it all the way through. Hebrews 10:38-39 the whole book of James these indicate habitual action not a fleeting thought James even goes so far as to say sin does not bring forth spiritual death until it is actualized through action. If this is true for sin how much more true is it for living by faith bringing forth salvation. James 1:15 Then, when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, brings forth death. James 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
Romans 5:20 Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound: Romans 5:21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord. What sin is greater then God's grace? None. Not one Christian will be going to hell. Maybe YOU should read the whole NT. IN CONTEXT!
Habitual action of sin? As far as salvation goes, habitual action is no different than one single sin. Only self-righteous people like yourself don't want to admit that
Good comment John. Self righteous works salvation deny the very words Jesus says in John 6:37-40. They will still post verses against it & get mad at me for calling them a Anti Christ. Yet who is the ones in here calling Jesus & God a liar? O Jesus saves, but only with my help! Good luck on that one! I told one guy remove your nic on YT & put satan then look at who is doing satans work. They still think they are doing Jesus work yet denying that we are saved by grace,period. God Bless you John & your family.
Tommy. Exactly. I am always being accused of "promoting sin" somehow as if I'm telling people to go out and break all of God's commands to be saved. That's not my intention at all, but people love attacking the truth. Everyone will admit that they still sin, oh but as long as you don't make a "practice of sin" you're ok... are you kidding me? In God's eyes it's black and white, you're either a sinner who deserves Hell, or you're perfectly blameless and worthy of Heaven. Christ is the only way we can be counted blameless before God, and our lifestyle has nothing to do with it because we will always be sinners. Self-righteous people never want to admit how sinful they are, and will always try to find ways around it. This was the exact reason why Jesus and the Pharisees didn't get along, so it's nothing new. Thank you and God bless you as well
If we were saved by how we live and what we do, we would be our own savior, and Jesus died in vain. When we trust Him as our savior we receive the free gift of salvation by grace, Ephesians 2:8-9 and our sin debt has been paid in full. First John 2:2. IF all of our sins were not paid for no one could be saved. First John 1:8 If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and he truth is not in us. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, and we all sin because we are not perfect, but the GIFT of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. We have been sealed by the Holy Spirit unto the day of redemption. Ephesians 1:13 and 4:30. John 3:18 We can no longer be condemned. John 5:24 Verily, veily, I say unto you, he that heareth my word, and believeth on Him that sent me, HATH ETERANL LIFE, and shall not come intu judgement but is passed from death unto life You can not loose eternal life. That is impossible. But we can loose our life early and our rewards in heaven. First Corinthians 5:5.
folks you better believe there's something you have to do.... Philippians 2:11-13 (KJV) 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. 12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. 13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
6153calme our part is to believe Jesus and he does the work so no can say look what I have done no it's look what the Lord has done and he receives all the glory and honor due to him when they asked what shall we do to work the works of God Jesus said this THE work of God believe on him whom he has sent.
@@kevinramsey1435 He also does the work in baptism so like I said earlier baptism is a part of faith so it is essential for salvation; must do all that Jesus says to do to be saved by Him.
I know this interview is old now but Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man (Adam) sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: Rom 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. Johnny you pick what you like from scripture to justify your own beliefs. You act like you don’t sin and yet you’re talking to this man and belittling him with pride in your heart. So, by your own belief you condemn yourself. According to your own beliefs, had you have died during the interview you’d be in Hell. All unrighteousness is sin. Yet God’s Grace is with us, and it’s not a free license to sin. This younger brother knew what he was talking about. There’s not one without sin. Also, what if someone believes on the Lord Jesus Christ by faith to save them and there’s no body of water where they’re at and they die are you going to tell me that they’re not saved or Jesus will refuse to save them because they never had the time to be submersed in water? This doctrine that you must be baptized to truly be saved surely has some holes in it. You create salvation based on certain variables. Well, I guess people living in a desert or those who live in prison will never have the chance to be saved. That’s terrible!
if you trust in water baptism in anyway to get you to heaven you will die in your sins only Jesus can save us salvation is a gift if water baptism is necessary for salvation then salvation ceases to be a gift if you have to do anything it's not a gift the only thing you can do with a gift is receive it or reject it The way you receive it is by faith and faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God if you believe God you receive if don't believe you reject the gift of God
It's really easy to see there is a debate right and here's how you determine who is telling the truth the one that has more forgiveness and mercy that's the side I'm going to take because that's who God is she's full of mercies every day so I would say the Johnny him is going to Hell just because he doesn't believe and that's the only reason why! And look launch her a reprobate mind there is no change in you so Johnny's set in his ways and he'll burn forever and he'll have to have to pay the piper
if you trust in water baptism in anyway to get you to heaven you will die in your sins only Jesus can save us salvation is a gift if water baptism is necessary for salvation then salvation ceases to be a gift if you have to do anything it's not a gift the only thing you can do with a gift is receive it or reject it The way you receive it is by faith and faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God if you believe God you receive if don't believe you reject the gift of God
Kevin Ramsey ,a gift you are to learn from is in Josh.6:1 and following. Paul told Timothy that the OT was to be studies to make one wise unto salvation which in faith of Christ 2tim 3;15
Blessed is the man whom the Lord will not impute sin
Amen! For those who walk in the light, Jesus blood covers them and they cannot be condemned.1Jo 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
8 ¶ If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
7 “Blessed are they whose lawless acts are forgiven, whose sins are covered. 8 Blessed is the man whose sin the Lord will never count against him.”
(Romans 4:7-8)
This quote comes from Psalm 32. The context says this:
1 Blessed is he whose transgressions are forgiven, whose sins are covered.b
2 Blessed is the man whose iniquity the LORD does not count against him, in whose spirit there is no deceit
(Psalm 32:1-2)
The passage then goes on to say:
3 When I kept SILENT my sin, my bones became brittle from my groaning all day long. 4 For day and night my strength was drained as in the summer heat. Your hand was heavy upon me;
(Psalm 32:3-4)
In these verses the Psalmist "kept silent" and refused to acknowledge, confess and repent of his sins. When He resisted the Holy Spirit CONVICTED Him which means to impress upon his conscience his guilt. Finally the Psalmists relents and surrenders:
5 Then I ACKNOWLEDGED MY SIN acknowledged my sin to You and DID NOT HIDE my iniquity. I said, “I will CONFESS my transgressions to the LORD,” and You FORGAVE the GUILT of my SIN
(Psalm 32:5)
Here confession of sin is followed by forgiveness from guilt. Notice how close this is to
1 John 1:7-9
I was trying to watch this last night while it was streaming live on RUclips because I wanted to call in but the live stream stopped after about 18 minutes. It is truly sad that people fight against the word of God. Kenneth had all the Scriptures out of context and was clearly contradicting verses. Why are people so wrapped up in Calvinism when they see that it is false doctrine?
Regarding Romans 5:12ff, Kenneth seems to be equating sin with death. This passage does not teach that we inherited Adam's sin. It says that death, which is the consequence of sin, is what spread to all men because all sinned. Verse 14 says that death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those who had not sinned according to the likeness of the transgression of Adam. It is not possible to replace the word "death" in these verses with the word "sin". Verse 15 says, "[b]ut the free gift is not like the offense. For if by the one man's offense many died, much more the grace of God and the gift by the grace of the one Man, Jesus Christ, abounded to many". Adam is being compared to Christ. Adam's sin brought death to all the same way Christ brings eternal life to all. This is death vs. life, not sin vs. life. Verse 16 says, "and the gift is not like that which came through the one who sinned." "That which" is referring to death. It could not refer to "sin" because then the verse wouldn't make sense, for example: "And the gift is not like [sin] which came through the one who sinned". No way. The verse is saying that the gift, which is eternal life/salvation, is not like death. Verse 17 says, "for if by the one man's offense death reigned through the one, much more those who receive abundance of grace and the gift of righteousness will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ". Once again, it is the consequence of sin, which is death and not sin itself, that reigns through Adam. Now some will take verse 19 and say that Adam's sin was transferred to us. But notice that the verse ends saying "so also by one Man's obedience many will be made righteous". Can we say that Christ's righteousness was transferred to us? According to Ezekiel 18:20ff, the father's sin or righteousness is not transferred to the son, so the answer to that question would be no. Adam's sin is not transferred to us. We personally sin because of choices we make, and we now have the opportunity to be righteous through Christ if we choose to.
I pray Kenneth continues to talk with Johnny so he can learn and accept the truth.
Calvinism is Not a false teaching... maybe false to you because you cannot grasp its concepts?..
lets look at Romans 5:12
12" Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:"
what part of this makes you think sin was Not passed from Adam...?
Paul is making a comparison here between death that has passed to all men through Adam and Christ unto whom.. all men have life.
.at the tree in the Garden God told Adam that if they ate they would die... but as we know.. Adam and Eve did NOT die physically.. but spiritually.. so.. Death is a separation from God. they are one and the same..... if one is separated from God.. what are they?... in Limbo?... NO.. they are in SIN... sin is a separation from God.. and so By Adam all men have been separated from God...
And the belief... is that any who die.. without being cleansed of this original sin.. will die and Go to hell... if we are Not born with the sin of Adam upon us... why do so many claim.. the unbaptized or unsaved are going to hell?.... with only the sins we commit upon us.. all we should have to do is just pray.. and Not be baptized or believe upon Jesus.. why should we.. ?..why do we need to trust in Jesus.. if as 1 John 1:9 tells us He is faithful and just to cleanse us.. from our sins. with no mention of having to trust Him.. or be baptized..?
@@jeffcarlson3269hey donkey. Calvinism is false. John Calvin is a false prophet.
Among the religious teachings today is Calvinism. Calvinism consists of five major points known by the acronym: T.U.L.I.P. All five points were popularized by John Calvin and are contrary to Scripture.
T - otal Depravity. Calvinists teach that we inherit Adam’s sin, thus born totally depraved. The Bible teaches that men are made “upright” (Eccl. 7:29) and that we have no sin until we commit it (Ezek. 28:15).
U - nconditional Election. Calvinists teach a false predestination, that God “elects” certain ones to be saved and the rest lost without man having any part in the matter. The Bible teaches that “whoever fears (God) and works righteousness is accepted by Him” (Acts 10:34-35).
L - imited Atonement. Calvinists teach that Christ did not die for everyone, but only for those individuals God predetermined to save. The Bible teaches that Christ “died for all” (2 Cor. 5:14).
I - rresistible Grace. Calvinists teach that God’s grace is irresistible for the saved ones. That it is impossible to reject the grace of God if you’re of the elect. The Bible teaches that God’s grace has “appeared to all men” (Titus 2:11), but not all are saved (Mt. 7:21). Some resist. (Acts 7:51) Heb 10:26-27 would make 0 sense either.
P - erseverance of the Saints. Calvinists teach “once saved, always saved”, that the saints are preserved and nothing can change it. The Bible teaches the need for faithfulness to the end (Rev. 2:10). To saints it was written, “take heed lest (you) fall”(1 Cor. 10:12).
Check out Demas, left the faith per Apostle Paul. Matthew 7:21, we must obey and do Gods will throughout our life. Doesn't Scripture say it is better to have never known the truth than to obey it and depart from it? ... God is not the author of confusion, its straightforward and simple when we read NT Scripture in whole, not in part. We have assurance when we abide in Christ.
You have to Obey the Gospel!!
You can’t please God without faith!
Through faith Noah did what Lord said
Wants we believe we obey the gospel by being baptized
10 Virgins 5 wise and 5 were foolish!!
They waiting on the bride.
Lord going come for the Church u better be ready!!!
The Early Christians did not bring people to faith in Christ through saying the sinners prayer. When a person believed they baptized them
Death was the consequence of the Fall not a polluted nature. I want to know where God said that, as a consequence of Adam's sin, He would curse man by giving him a SINFUL NATURE and taking away any ability to choose righteousness.
Wow! So one can willfully sin and go to heaven?
(Hebrews 10:26)
Is each person responsible for their sins?
Does God hold a person accountable for their father's sin?
Is sin passed on from one generation to the next?
Finally, are babies born lost by inheriting original (Adam’s) sin?
(Ezekiel 18:4, 20-24)
Kenneth Johnson...........u said we can lie to the HOLY GHOST & die for doing so and if we R SAVED we won't lose our salvation...the bible says all liars will have there place in the lake of fire....sir did simon the saucer have to repent for his sin or could he have not repented for that sin & die & go to heaven,,,didint JESUS say if we die in sin we can't go where HE is...
that's why the Bible says watch ... because you know not when, your supposed to be ready for that day.
Amen..
Acts 16 Paul told to preach the Gospel
What does the jailer do after he hears the gospel? He was baptized.
Why don’t people bring up sinners prayer or where they ask Jesus in their heart? What verse is that?
Jesus gave an example of a "sinners prayer".....
"And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner. I tell you, this man went down to his house JUSTIFIED rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted."
Luke 18:13-14 KJV
Here's a sinner that prayed,.... and Jesus said this man went home justified.
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After the resurrection of Jesus? Matt 19 Jesus tells that guy to sale everything he has!! Are you going to sale everything you have?
Jesus said I go to proper a place for you. I will come again!! Mark 16 he explains what you have to get to Heaven.
How come anybody in the Bible listen to God when they are told??
Jacob told to build alter why not just build a ark? Hebrew 11 is faith chapter. Told March around walls j of Jericho. What if they said no I want to build a ark like Noah.
Not everyone will enter into the kingdom of Heaven if you don’t do HIS WiLL
@@KingjamesAV1611 Matt 28 says go and preach gospel
Mark 16 go preach gospel
What do find Peter doing in acts 2? First time ever preaching gospel!!!
If you was standing there at that time what would you do? Acts 2:41 says what?
You tell Peter different story about Jesus??
Lord added them to his church 2:47
If I want to be member of Baptist church I have to be baptized but if I want to get to Heaven you don’t have to be baptized. It is harder to get in Baptist church then to Heaven????
right what HE does is perfect, his job is done there is nothing left for Christ to do, now it's your turn, ask it, "What must I DO to be saved" Kenneth will tell you nothing.
6153calme know what must I do to be saved Kenneth would tell you believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved
John 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
@@tommy.1002 Read John 3:5; must be born of water (baptism) and spirit.
@@lindahutchens8612 I have.
@@tommy.1002 Hi Tommy, what do you mean "I have?"
the lady caller hit the nail on the head, and here is the rest of it
Ez 18: 24 But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.
25 Yet ye say, The way of the Lord is not equal. Hear now, O house of Israel; Is not my way equal? are not your ways unequal?
26 When a righteous man turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and dieth in them; for his iniquity that he hath done shall he die
Yes, a righteous man can fall and lose his salvation...at which point do you lose your salvation, as the Bible states above, here it is..THE MOMENT YOU SIN, AND DIE BEFORE REPENTENCE TAKES PLACE.
Kenneth said it again, you can go to heaven even if Satan has filled your heart and you lie to the Holy Spirit.
Wow, I've never heard such ridiculousness in all my days, next he'll say Satan's going to get back into heaven. If an angel can fall so can man..Gal 1:8
6153calme, he hasn't read Acts 5:1-11, where Ananias and Sapphira lies to the Holy Spirit, and they dropped dead within three hours of each other. They are the prime example of being saved, and having lost their salvation.
Does it specifically say they lost their salvation or is it you using preconceived ideas added into it? Moses sinned and he didn't lose his salvation Samson didn't lose it Aaron didn't lose it.
She took it out of context
@@PatrickBell33 You really think they were killed right there on the spot by lying to Peter then went right to heaven and were saved??!! Wow. That's some crazy theology
We have to surrender and give up our lives to Christ to be saved:
24 Then Jesus told His disciples, “If anyone wants to COME AFTER ME [like a sheep], he must DENY HIMSELF and TAKE UP HIS CROSS and follow Me. 25 For whoever wants to save his life will LOSE IT, but whoever loses his life for My sake will FIND IT [find LIFE]. 26 What will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, yet FORFEITS HIS SOUL? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul?
(Matthew 16:24-26)
With many Churches it is about theology and not the Savior
Kenneth did a good job to actually come and debate. He did a decent job, but of course he was proved wrong on his Calvinist Doctrine, especially, about dying in a sinful state (adultery). But kudos to him for showing up, and staying on point. Great job to Johnny, as usual.
Who in the Bible lived by faith alone???
Anybody that believed in the Lord done whatever God ask Jacob build a alter,
Noah build a ark.
Who told God no God it just takes believing?
There is no "original sin" That idea came from Augustine who believed that the propensity to sin was passed down organically specifically through inherited sexual desire (concupiscence). Luther and Calvin who were devotees of Augustine replaced this with the idea of imputed guilt. In this scenario, God holds every individual personally responsible for the personal sin of Adam (including infants and the unborn). This is why they continued to baptize infants.
I did not say I do not believe in the Fall the result of which was first spiritual, then physical death. Spiritual death refers to separation, disunion, from the Spirit of God. This was why mankind must be "born again" "after the Spirit." However, the natural disconnect between God and man could not produce hostile enmity until the human being possessed moral consciousness and acted contrary to it:
12 Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men BECAUSE ALL SINNED- 13 for sin indeed was in the world before the law was given, but SIN IS NOT COUNTED where there is no law. (Romans 5:12-13)
Verse 12 in Greek is “ἐφ᾽ ᾧ πάντες ἥμαρτον” which means "BECAUSE (of whom - Adam) all sinned" The fact that we sin is a CONSEQUENCE of Adam's sin. In the corrupt Latin text used by Augustine this phrase was translated “in quo omnes peccaverunt,” that is, “IN WHOM [in Adam] all sinned”.
If ALL sinned IN Adam then ALL (even the unborn and children) are guilty of his sin.
"Original sin" as conceived by Augustine of Hippo means that every individual born from Adam is held PERSONALLY responsible for the sin of the man Adam. This is why Augustine and those after him believed in infant damnation. Since fetuses and babies were held personally responsible for Adam's sin which was "imputed" to them they could be justly damned having never committed any sin personally. It is the reason for infant baptism also. The Reformers were hung up on this Catholic doctrine because Calvin and Luther were Augustinian theologians. It is why they continued the Catholic practice of Baptising infants. This is the historical theological meaning of "original sin"
I believe that the ANCESTRAL sin of Adam has caused us all to be born after the flesh rather than the Spirit. Our character is corrupted not because God is blaming us for Adam's sin but because, as a natural consequence of Adam's sin, no one in his line is born after the Spirit. Our defect is not what was added to our nature but what is MISSING.
This being the case, we are not "totally unable" to choose Christ as the Calvinists say. Rather, our bias towards self-centeredness requires that we be persuaded to believe by the Spirit working in concert with the gospel. Because our wills were not rendered INOPERABLE by the Fall we can still choose to believe and obey Him.
gentlewisdom.org/augustines-mistake-about-sin/
If there is not original sin from birth, then why did Jesus not have an earthly father??
Ofcourse there is original sin. It's passed down through the dad's. Which is why Joseph was not Jesus dad. The Bible clearly tells you that sin is not imputed when there is no Law. So since an infant can't understand the Law and it's consequences, the baby is not responsible for it. All babies that die, go to heaven!
@@KingjamesAV1611
In order to use the idea of "Original Sin" to make a doctrinal point you first have to understand exactly what is meant by the term. I agree that infants do not sin but if Original Sin is true then they DO have sin because God Himself IMPUTES the sin of Adam TO their "account" This is what Original Sin means. Are you sure you believe it?
@@KingjamesAV1611
Jesus did not have original sin because as a human He was conceived by the Holy Spirit.
Holy moly. I can't take anything this guy says seriously. He's a young earther
Young earth makes more sense every day, especially the find of soft tissue in dinosaurs bones.
@@Dflonn bro....seriously?
@@chicken0619 Yes. Have you ever considered the assumptions that must be made to date a rock using the given methods? Did you know that if one uses different methods to date the same rock they should get the same answer. Instead they often get answers with margin of error in millions of years, that don't even overlap. Without an observer, there's no way to know how much material was present in the beginning, rather or not there was contamination, or if the decay rate has been constant since the beginning. Because there are so many assumptions, it's not science.
@@chicken0619 have you ever heard of the "Lost Squadron "?
@@Dflonn I heard something about these soft tissue in dinosaurs; that is so exciting to hear. I heard something about PBS having something on Nova. I cannot find it on Demand with my cable company. Do you know where I can watch this or have an article I can read; I as of yet have not searched for any articles; thanks for your help.
The Bible doesn't contradict itself. Faith only? The devils BELIEVE.
Will you believe Jesus?
Jesus said,
Believe
John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
Repent
Luke 13: 3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
Confess Him
MATT 10:32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. 33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
Be Baptized
Baptism
Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Once Saved Always Saved is True.
John 6:28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
30 They said therefore unto him, What sign shewest thou then, that we may see, and believe thee? what dost thou work?
31 Our fathers did eat manna in the desert; as it is written, He gave them bread from heaven to eat.
32 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven.
33 For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.
34 Then said they unto him, Lord, evermore give us this bread.
35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.
36 But I said unto you, That ye also have seen me, and believe not.
37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
41 The Jews then murmured at him, because he said, I am the bread which came down from heaven.
42 And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? how is it then that he saith, I came down from heaven?
43 Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Murmur not among yourselves.
44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.
46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.
47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.
48 I am that bread of life.
49 Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead.
50 This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die.
51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.
Ephesians 2:8-9
King James Version
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
John 10:27-29
King James Version
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
the context of the book of Hebrews is Christians who were trying to go back to the law of Moses.
Nevertheless, Hebrews is instruction for believers, Jews and Gentiles, who had been united together Christ into one body. Although it was addressed to a group of JEWISH believers you cannot say that nothing whatsoever in the book applies to Gentiles. To say this is to deny that for Gentiles, the OT is NOT "profitable for doctrine, reproof, instruction in righteousness."
Look at Hebrews 3:1:Therefore, holy brothers, who share in the heavenly calling,..
What people is this describing? Does it not include ALL Christians or would it ONLY apply to believers with Jewish roots? The warnings of departing from Christ apply to ALL believers.
In 1 Corinthians Paul says the lessons drawn from the OT apply to both Jews and Gentiles:
…10 And do not complain, as some of them did, and were killed by the destroying angel. 11 Now these things happened to them EXAMPLES and were written down as WARNINGS for us, on whom the fulfillment of the ages has come. 12 So the one who thinks he is standing firm should be careful not to FALL.…(1 Corinthians 10:11)
Sorry Jim, try reading in context. Jesus LOOSES no one nor does he cast anyone out. Refute these simple verses, Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, How long is this seal, Holy Spirit on the believer for? Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. The day of what? So who removes the seal?
30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, in whom you were sealed for the day of redemption (Ephesians 4:30).
A seal was a mark of authenticity. Gods mark which he has affixed or attached to us to show that we belong to Him is the Holy Spirit. The idea that nothing can cause a rift in our relationship to the Spirit is proved in this verse. This is what "grieving" the Spirit is all about. So the seal is not an unbreakable weld that holds us to Christ no matter what we do. Seals in the first century were not made of iron but wax that could become detached if the person who bore it did take care of it. If that happened the sealed item would be declared invalid.
The kind of offense that grieve the Spirit are listed in the next verse
31Get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger, outcry and slander, along with every form of malice (Ephesians 4:31)
The Day of Redemption is when we receive our inheritance of eternal life (Romans 8:23).
Hebrews 3 warns believers not to harden their hearts against the Spirit
Paul in Hebrews three uses the Wilderness generation as a comparison to our walk with Christ. Hebrews 3:7-11 warns us not to harden our hearts and rebel against the Spirit (who is our seal).
12 Take care, brothers, lest there be in any of you an evil, unbelieving heart, leading you to fall away from the living God. 13 But exhort one another every day, as long as it is called “today,” that none of you may be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin (Hebrews 3:12-13)
Their ongoing habit of sin caused the Spirit to bar them from entering their inheritance.
18And to whom did he swear that they would not enter his rest, but to those who were disobedient? 19 So we see that they were unable to enter because of unbelief (Hebrew 3:18-19).
The "rest" was their inheritance - The Land. Our inheritance is eternal life. Just as they lost their inheritance through having an evil, unbelieving heart so can we lose ours. As they were separated from the Spirit so can we.
Another scripture you have misinterpreted is John 6:37 which in the KJV reads "All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will IN NO WISE cast out."
Here is a case where the KJV gets it right and the other translations are ambiguous if not wrong. "IN NO WISE" according to the archaic definition found in the Oxford Dictionary meant: "not at all." It did not reverence the future as the word never does. Rather it is an intense negation.
A close rendering can be found in the NASB
"All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will CERTAINLY NOT cast out."
Like the KJV this does not speak of the future but it expresses intensive negation.
What is confusing is that the word "never" can mean something that might happen in the future. The Greek text does not refer to the future instead it uses a DOUBLE-NEGATIVE to intensify the negative much as we would say "by no means."
Notice the double-negative in the Interlinear Greek:
biblehub.com/interlinear/john/6-37.htm
What Jesus is saying is that those the Father gave him WOULD come to him IN THE FUTURE and WHEN THEY CAME to Him He would BY NO MEANS cast them out. He is not saying that once a person is received into the Lord's fellowship they would never be cast out again. This scripture does not support OSAS
Reading into this Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. It clearly says until the day of redemption. You can only grieve the Holy Spirit before you come back to the Lord. Where in this verse does it say it falls off? it sticks to you till the day of redemption. Dance all around this but you have no legs to stand on. God seals us period. Only way this seal comes off is when God calls the believer home. The seal means ownership. saved people are bought & paid for.It wont fall off due to sin. Jesus is not a liar,man is. John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
John 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
John 6:39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
John 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. Jesus right here says he looses no one or cast out none. You have nothing to stand on,yet you will come back with other scriptures. again,they will be out of context as well. Jesus is no liar, The one teaching you salvation can be lost is a liar. Look and see what conditions are on God's free gift of salvation.
Stop calling him your Brother
1 Cor. 15:22, "For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive."
Every man will die. Not because every man has sinned. Babies have not sinned, but babies die, sometimes. The curse of Adam insures our bodies will die with or without our sinning. But Adam's sin does not affect our spirit. Our spirits come from God, Hebrews 12:9. And they are Pure until we sin, then we die spiritually and are doomed. Thank God for Jesus Christ. That we can be made alive in Him.
How does a person die spiritually? Read your WHOLE bible Dale
is how are these different: 'choosing' to believe
'confessing' Jesus
'repenting' of sin
'being' imersed
'remaining' faithful
which is not commanded of God? is one more important? are these things from man or God? but the real question is how much does grace cover? why not just do what God says instead of trying to convince people what they don't have to do?
They are all commanded by God and are of equal importance.
What must I do to be saved?
ruclips.net/video/DmiH89xWZ0Q/видео.html
it looks like an older debte, look at the end oct 28. Moreover, I like how Johnny post old videos of him preaching, I hope he can post more of those old school videos.
He is reading into that something that is NOT there.
Every sin is willful
Not every sin is willful - Numbers 15:24-29
"Then it shall be, if ought be committed by ignorance without the knowledge of the congregation, that all the congregation shall offer one young bullock for a burnt offering, for a sweet savour unto the LORD, with his meat offering, and his drink offering, according to the manner, and one kid of the goats for a sin offering.
25 And the priest shall make an atonement for all the congregation of the children of Israel, and it shall be forgiven them; for it is ignorance: and they shall bring their offering, a sacrifice made by fire unto the LORD, and their sin offering before the LORD, for their ignorance:
26 And it shall be forgiven all the congregation of the children of Israel, and the stranger that sojourneth among them; seeing all the people were in ignorance.
27 And if any soul sin through ignorance, then he shall bring a she goat of the first year for a sin offering.
28 And the priest shall make an atonement for the soul that sinneth ignorantly, when he sinneth by ignorance before the LORD, to make an atonement for him; and it shall be forgiven him.
29 Ye shall have one law for him that sinneth through ignorance, both for him that is born among the children of Israel, and for the stranger that sojourneth among them."
So what you are saying Johnny there are 17 epistles in the New Testament teaches Christians to stay saved ?
Yes. Read them for yourself
Johnny did an excellent job debunking once saved always saved.
Sir you say that because that’s what you been taught from that church the Christ the church of Christ got you before the lord did seek the Lord for yourself from pastor Bobby Anderson
@@pastorbobbyanderson my journey started in the denominational churches and my attitude changed from " what am I looking for in a church?" to "what is the Lord looking for in His Church?"
I say he did an excellent job because he has rightly divided the word of truth.
Desmon Flonnory are you sure you’re following the right thing when I got saved driving down the road calling on the Lord with all my heart I felt him come in my heart and save me He changed me from that moment on I feel him on a pretty regular basis and I have peace in my heart he’s my father he will never on save me I didn’t have to get baptized in water from Pastor Bobby Anderson take me out on RUclips or email me yet pastorbobbyanderson@gmail.com My son-in-law is a Church of Christ he’s a good man but we don’t agree in scripture that’s OK as long as he believed with all his heart he saved he can get baptized in water as much as he wants
@@pastorbobbyanderson I believe that Saul felt he was right in his heart when he was persecuting the Christ. When he reasoned the things he had seen with the prophecies he knew, he obeyed that form of doctrine, the gospel of Jesus Christ. If I obey from the heart like they did in the 1st century, I will be a Christian like them. No matter how my emotions run.
Desmon Flonnory We have to obey in our heart that Form of doctrine just believing by faith and repenting they go together and once we do ,God saves our soul and we cannot sin on the inside therefore I’ll never be considered a sinner in eyes of God again He seal me with that Holy Spirit of promise , that seal cannot be broken he’s the author and the finisher of my faith I’m kept by the power of God I don’t keep myself saved I’m saved eternally because his seed remain in me and I cannot sin that’s in the soul , The soul that sin it shall die my soul cannot sin but my flesh can, I have to die daily but if I sin ,it’s in the flesh not the soul I’m still saved But I’ll have to give an account to God for the way I live down here ,Once saved always saved
The first man is calling God a liar. Jesus said, For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, Jesus, that WHOSOVER, believeth in Him, should not perish, but Have everlasting life. How long does everlasting life last? Forever.
If we could save our selves, by good works or keeping the law, then Jesus died in vain. Galatians 2:21. Colossians 2:13 We are made perfect through faith in Jesus who has forgiven us ALL trespasses. We still reap what we sow, and God does chasten His children. John 1:12. But He can not condemn us. John 3:18. We can lose our life, and our rewards in heaven, but not eternal life. First Corinthians 3:11-21. God can not lie. John 5:24. First John 1:8 If we say we have no sin, we deceive our selves and the TRUTH is not in us. All men are sinners. Jesus died for sinners. First John 2:2 and First Timothy 2:4 For God is not willing that any should perish, but that all that should come unto the knowledge of the truth. First Corinthians 15:3-4. That Christ died for our sins, (Which ones) (all of them, past, present, and future, Romans 4:7-8. according to the scriptures, that He was buried and rose gain on the third day, according to the scriptures.
The second we believe that Gospel we are sealed by the Holy spirit and are given eternal life. Ephesians 1:13-14 Our guarantee of eternal life. Gods word. John 6:47. Ephesians 2:8-9 Faith is not a work. it is faith apart from works which can not save a sinner which we all are. Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the Holy Spirit in whom ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. If you can lose eternal life, then you must be able to do something to save yourself. If you can save yourself, then Jesus died for nothing.
The GIFT of God is eternal life. What do you have to do for a free gift? Nothing. Romans 4:5. Let God be true and every man a liar. First Corinthians 1:21 We preach the foolishness of the gospel to save them that believe. Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, (First Corinthians 15:3-4) For it is the POWER of God unto salvation to everyone that repents of their sin and is baptized. NO, it is to everyone that believeth, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.
Galatians 1:7-9 Though we are an angel from heaven preach any other gospel unto you than that we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received from us, let him be accursed. Romans 11:6 AMAZING GRACE, JESUS PAID IT ALL AND WE PAID 0. IT IS FREE, or not at all because no sinner can pay his own debt. Since Christ died for my sins, I can not go to hell to pay for them. I have no sins to pay for. The blood of Jesus paid my sin debt in full and I can no longer be condemned. John 3:18 I can be chastened by my heavenly father even to loosing my life, but not the free gift of eternal life by faith alone in Jesus finished work on the cross alone apart from any works.
May Gods word stand. John 6:40. And this is the will of Him who sent me, that ALL that seeth the Son, and believeth on Him, may have everlasting life, and I will raise him up on the last day. Gods word.
1, Sir if the person is not a member of your church of Christ. do you mean he is going to hell?
2, if a person in his death bed and no more time to get baptized it means the person going to hell. because he is not baptized by the water?
Let us let Jesus answer from his own Words, Mark 16:16 " He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."
No death bed confessions, get right, right now while you have time.
John 3:5 " Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God"
1 Peter 3:21 " The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:”
I must answer to say that no one needs to be part of a congregation with a name _called_ *Church of Christ* or *International Church of Christ* or *House of Prayer* to go to heaven.
Baptism in water is not a pre-requisite for salvation.
@@ekco05 So did Jesus lie when he said "He that believes AND is baptized shall be saved" (Mark 16:16).?
@@lindahutchens8612 That question, although genuine is misplaced, given that the verse is well known to have been an addition to the gospel account according to Mark. This statement is not my own but even of the earliest church fathers including individuals like Eusebius and Jerome and Clement of Alexandria.
I would state that your question does not come from a wholistic understanding of church history and even verses 9-20.
So your question, although well intended is problematic for several reasons including:
1. It isn't original to the author.
2. If you happen to represent the Church of Christ, your position on the remainder of the verses of Mark 16:16-20 are inconsistent with your position on verse 16; as you hold to a consistent view of baptism but not a consistent view of signs and wonders.
3. If I granted that these were the words of Jesus, you would need to understand how baptism is part of salvation from a 1st century Jewish perspective; for it is not the cause of one's salvation but part of the path of discipleship.
So no, I do not account Jesus as having lied, I do however, account for verses of scripture having been added to account for words of Jesus that were not heard by the original hearers. I also do not hold that the scribe who added these verses to be an evil doer.
@@ekco05 I will stick with what Jesus said in Mark 16:16. I have another question for you why was Paul baptized in Acts 22:16? And do you believe I Peter 3:21 that says baptism doth also now save us or do you believe baptism doth also NOT save us and if you believe the second one, where is the scripture that says baptism doth NOT save us. Also how is one added to the church and please use scripture.
This man has no idea what Original Sin is. Original sin was invented by AUGUSTINE to explain why infants had to be baptized. Since they have no sin Augustine made their sin out to be GOD imputing to the infant the sin of Adam to all his decedents. This is why Reformed Churches baptize infants - to free from (original) sin.
The Bible makes the ACT of physical immorality WORSE than a mere lustful thought:
"Now the body is not for sexual immorality but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body. 14And God both raised up the Lord and will also raise us up by His power.
15 Do you not know that your BODIES are members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ and make them members of a harlot? Certainly not! 16 Or do you not know that he who is joined to a harlot is one body with her? For “the two,” He says, “shall become one flesh.” 17 But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him. 18 Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is OUTSIDE THE BODY, but he who commits sexual immorality sins AGAINST HIS OWN BODY. 19 Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own?
(1 Corinthians 6:15-19)
So much of this argument is predicated on if you commit A SIN and don't repent of it, and die immediately afterwards then- are you automatically bound for hell? Given the Scriptures in Hebrews 6, 10, and 2 Pet 2:20 why would a "Christian" be willing to risk it? And yet we do.
King David willfully committed the sin of Adultery, was faced with an unwanted pregnancy then plotted the eventual murder of a innocent man. According to the Law of Moses, these were Capital Offenses punishable by Death. BUT GOD gave King David an opportunity to Repent. David was Convicted of his sin, then Confessed his sin before GOD and was shown Mercy and forgiven, and GOD later referred to David as a "A MAN AFTER GOD'S OWN HEART" -
In Acts 5: 1-10 Ananias and Sapphira were guilty of Lying and Deception ( lesser sins we think, than fornication, adultery and murder) and Peter says " Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart? You lied to the HOLY SPIRIT.... You weren't lying to us but to GOD. As soon as Ananias ( and later Sapphira) heard these words, they fell to the floor and died."
Ananias and Sapphira were Christians, however if their HEARTS were FILLED with the Devil- could they still be considered Eternally Saved and now in heaven?
JESUS said: "Not everyone who sayeth unto ME, 'LORD LORD" shall enter into the kingdom of heaven but he who DOETH the will of MY FATHER which is in heaven"... Matt 7:21-23 and "These people honor ME with their lips but their HEARTS are far from me" Matt 15:8/ Is. 29:13
"But I THE LORD, search the Heart and examine the Mind even to give each man According to his WAYS And According to The FRUIT of his DOINGS." Jeremiah 17:10
so the way I see it, the key to ALL SIN leading towards GOD'S WRATH, is the condition and the ulterior MOTIVES of our HEARTS."
And since GOD is the Ultimate Judge of our hearts, then we need to ask HIM to "Create in
us, a Pure heart, and to renew a STEADFAST spirits within each of us" Ps. 51:10 because
" If we say we have no sin, we are only fooling ourselves and refusing to accept the truth. But if we Confess our sins to HIM, HE is faithful and just to forgive us and to
Cleanse us from every wrong. If we claim we have not sinned, we are calling GOD a liar and showing that HIS WORD has no place IN our HEARTS" 1John1:8-10
Lets take a bible scenario. In first Corinthians there was a believer who was sleeping with his fathers wife. Pau said it was so bad that they should bar him from the church and turn such a one over to Satan to kill is flesh so that his Sprit would be saved in the day of the Lord. First Corinthians 5:5
If we go off and live in sin after we have received the free gift of salvation, God does chasten His children, even to taking our life early. We will lose our rewards in heaven, and maybe our life, but once we have been sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, Ephesians 1:13 We can never be lost. John 6:37 He will never cast us out. John 6:39 Jesus has never lost one. Hebrews 13:5 He will never leave us or forsake us. We can leave Him, but He will never leave us.
Second Timothy 2:19 The foundation of God is sure, having this seal, (the Holy Spirit) the Lord knoweth them that are His. Romans 8:9 Without the Spirit of God there is no salvation. With the Spirit we can never be condemned. Salvation is a free gift to all that believe on Him as the only way of salvation, because we can not save ourselves by how we live and what we do. That is why Jesus died for us, He loves us, but hates our sin, So He went to the cross to take the punishment we all deserve so that we could be saved by what He did for us.
jim kraft you are portraying God as a needy clingy person by saying he wont leave you even if you left him.
You can sin and repent but if you leave him for good then you must await eternal damnation.
Wow, so you can be so wicked and so evil that God will kill you so he can let you into heaven,,
Wouldn't it be great if once saved always saved was really true !
Wouldn't it be great if bullets on the battlefield didn't kill
Or airplanes never crashed
Or Satan never attacks !!
We have to resist the devil! But why? Why resist the devil? Why evangelize the world? Why obey the word? If I'm eternally saved and I can't fail to get into heaven then why put on the whole armor of God? I guess I don't need the whole armor of God because I'm eternally saved. What if I sin? Do i need to repent? Why do I need to repent if I'm eternally saved? Do I have to forgive my brother their trespasses? Why if I'm eternally saved I guess I don't. Can I be a Christian homosexual? I guess I could be if I'm eternally saved!
There is no end to this madness of once saved always saved
Obey Jesus go to heaven
Obey the devil go to hell
- Matthew Meinecke, February 2018
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 1 Corinthians 6:9
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. 2 Corinthians 5:21
If your salvation depends on you and how you live, then you are your own savior and Jesus never was your savior. You will die and go to hell because you have never believed that Jesus paid your sin debt in full. First Corinthians 15:3-4 and First John 2:2
If Jesus paid for all our sins, and he did, then when we accept His salvation by grace we are given eternal life. Salvation is a free gift from God. Romans 6:32 For the wages of sin is death, (and we all sin) but the GIFT of God is ETERNAL LIFE, through Jesus Christ our Lord. If you do not have eternal life right now, you are not saved. If you have eternal life now, you are saved forever. Not till willfully sin, because we all willfully sin. But you take things our of context and try to prove a saved sinner can be lost. What You are saying is Jesus lied. John 6:47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that believeth on me HATH ETERNAL LIFE. John 3:16 You don't believe Jesus said that either. Or John 6:37 or John 6:39 or John 6:40 or
John 5:24. Verily, verily I say unto you, he that heareth my word, and believeth on Him that sent me, HATH ETERNAL LIFE, and shall not come unto judgement, but is PASSED FROM DEATH UNTO LIFE.
Johnny seems to think that God the Father forgives and saves people because they are sorry for there sins but God the Father only forgives a person on the basis of what his Son did for us and when a person puts there faith in His Son that person is forgiven Jesus took away sin it has been dealt with once and for all the payment is permanent and He has perfected forever them that are sanctified and His blood sanctifies believers.
Johnny isn't making this "system" up....2Co 7:9 Now I rejoice, not that ye were made sorry, but that ye sorrowed to repentance: for ye were made sorry after a godly manner, that ye might receive damage by us in nothing.
10 For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.
Johnny Robertson yes godly sorrow does produce repentance because it's our sins that Jesus died for. and when a person realizes there guilt and that it was there sin that he died for.there's godly sorrow and you turn to the only way of salvation the Lord Jesus Christ without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sin and all who believe are the children of light
? if a person believes Jesus his gospel and is not yet baptized is that person saved it's a yes or no ?
John you don't know the word of God you just contradicted the whole bible
Romans chapter 4 read it carefully you don't want to go to hell
Context John context
Jesus says your wrong either you receive God's gift through faith and faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God if you don't believe that it's by faith apart from works you will die in your sins
Not my words
One day, after Moses had grown up, he went out to where his own people were and watched them at their hard labor. He saw an Egyptian beating a Hebrew, one of his own people. Looking this way and that and seeing no one, he killed the Egyptian and hid him in the sand. Exodus 2:11-12. And the LORD spake unto Moses and Aaron, Because ye believed me not, to sanctify me in the eyes of the children of Israel, therefore ye shall not bring this congregation into the land which I have given them Numbers 20:12. Even though Moses killed a man an fell into unbelief, although Rev 21:8 states all murderers and unbelievers will end up in hell, he still made it to heaven Matthew 17:3.
Moses repented
You can loose your salvation. A verse tells us. King James Bible 1 John 1 :7
But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. IF and that's a big IF. So, you cannot turn aside to live like the filth of the world. That's not living in the light. Living as Christ would have you to live. He knows we fail, but He has made provision to forgive us and let us try again if we mean it. You cannot cannot dress to impress God on Sunday and just be waiting
to live like trash later in the week. Sorry friends. He knows. The verse says you're going to
have problems when it's your turn in line. Surely no one believes God is going to let sin in
Heaven even if someone does believe Jesus is the Son of God.
You missed the emphasis of this verse. Go back and read it again slowly.
The verse literally says "fellowship" is what would be hindered, NOT losing your salvation. Basically saying you'll quench the Spirit. But you don't lose it. Totally two different things altogether.
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This is not even debateble man the bible cleary states once saved always saved
Victor do you actually thin you can loose your salavtion im gonna read this verse now , chek out john 3,16 and john 3,18 and john 3,36
Hey Ben, Victor will still deny John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
John 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
John 6:39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
John 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. SMH!
Still refuse to believe do you? No matter what YOU POST Vic, you are DEAD WRONG! JESUS SAYS I CAST OUT NONE! I LOOSE NONE! So the best you can do is Hebrews 6:4-6? Does this somehow over ride Jesus? You really have no clue do you? Oh my preacher is NEVER WRONG!
Oh no it doesn't. You've been decieved.
Matthew 7:21-23 But Lord, Lord, what about all my wonderful works? Why we even cast out demons in your name and did many wonderful works. And then I will tell them, depart from me ye that work iniquity, I never knew you. Not I did know you and now I don't, I never knew you. Jesus tells us in verse 21 why they were not saved. They did not do the will of the Father. John 6:40 And this is the will of Him who sent me, that all that seeth the Son, and believeth on Him, may have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.
The Gospel. First Corinthians 15:1-4 That Christ died for our sins, according to the scriptures, that he was buried and rose again on the third day, according to the scriptures.
Galatians 1:7-9 Though we or an angel from heaven preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let them be accursed. As we said before, so say I again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that which ye have received, let them be accursed.
These men are preaching another gospel that saves no one. It is based on their good works and not on what Jesus has done for us on the cross. It gives the glory to man for saving himself instead of to Jesus finished work on the cross for saving us sinners. They are self righteous hypocrites believing they have no sin. First John 1:8 IF we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.
First John 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God, that ye may know ye HAVE ETERNAL LIFE.
These liars are calling God a liar. John 6:47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that believeth on me HATH ETERNAL LIFE.
Don't call my savior a liar. It really upsets me. If it upsets me, think how it upsets God. He is the one that sent His only Son to die for our sins so that we could be saved by what He did for us. Not by what we do. We can not save ourselves. Romans 11:6
Keep up the great work you do Jim, God Bless you & your family.
It still holds true today. Galatians 2:21 I do not make void the grace of God, for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain. Keeping Gods laws can not save sinners. Only Jesus blood sacrifice for all our sin can save sinners which we all are to a degree because no one is perfect in the flesh.
We can only accept salvation as a free gift of God by grace, not by anything we do or do not do, our works. This is what so many do not understand. First Corinthians 15:1-4 is the gospel we must believe to be saved. That Jesus died for all our sins. He paid our sin debt in full and when we believe that gospel we are saved, given the Holy Spirit who is our righteousness before God, and He will not longer impute sin to our account. Romans 4:6-8
Romans 4:2 If Abraham were justified by works, he would have something to glory in, but not before God. We can only be justified by faith in Jesus plus nothing. We are born in to Gods family when we believe the Gospel.
Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after ye heard the word of truth, the Gospel of your salvation; in whom also, AFTER ye believed, ye were sealed with that Holy Spirit of promise. Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the Holy Spirit in whom ye are SEALED UNTO THE DAY OF REDEMPTION. Once we have been born into Gods family by faith alone in Christ alone, we are given eternal life.
First John 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God, that ye may know ye have eternal life. That verse is only for those who believe that they have no sins to pay for because Jesus has paid our sin debt in full. John 6:47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that beleiveth on me hath eternal life. John 6:40 And this is the will of Him who sent me, that ALL that seeth the Son, and beleiveth on Him, may have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day. We are sealed by the Holy Spirit the minute we believe the gospel and can never be lost. John 6:39 Jesus has never lost one. Hebrews 13:5 He will never leave us or forsake us. Second Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless, the foundation of God is sure, having this seal, (the Holy Spirit) the Lord knoweth them that are His.
John 10:28-29. No one can pluck us our of Jesus hand or our heabenly fathers hand. Those who do not believe in eternal security, are trusting in their works to save themselves. They are in effect their own savior believing salvation is by keeping the law and doing good works. But as good as those things are, they can not save us. Only Jesus can save sinners. So they like the Pharisees go about trying to establish their own righteousness by keeping the law and doing goo works, Matthew 7:21-23 Jesus said, many will come before Him on that day and tell Him about all their good works, They even cast out demons in His name. But, Jesus said He did not know them. Why, Because they did not believe on Him as the only way of salvation by grace, and never received the Gift of the Holy Spirit.
We can not save our selves by how we live and what we do, we can only be saved by what Jesus did plus nothing. We have noting to boast in because we did nothing for it. Jesus paid I all and we paid 0. It is free and that is the only way we can accept it. Romans 11:6 It is all grace, what Jesus did for us, not works, what we do or do not do. You can not mix law/works with grace, One work cancels grace.
The Hebrew writer was speaking to Jewish converts that were being pressured in to going back to animal sacrifices. They were saved and had the free gift of eternal life, but were going to loose the blessing and trodden underfoot the Son of God with the sin of unbelief. But they had not lost their salvation.
We have to start with the simple truths of the bible and go on from there. We know from Paul's writings that we are saved and are given eternal life when we believe the gospel. Ephesians 2:8-9, Ephesians 1:13, Ephesians 4:30, and Second Timothy 2:19.
What if we loose our faith and walk away? Second Timothy 2:13 If we believe not, He abideth faithful, He can not deny Himself. (His Holy Spirit that lives in the believer.
First John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doeth not commit sin, because His seed (the Holy Spirit) remaineth in Him, and He can not sin, because HE is born of God.
First John 1:8 If we say we have no sin, we deceive our selves and the truth is not in us. We know the Holy Spirit that we received at salvation can not sin, but we still do. Paul even said He still sinned because of sin that still dwells in the believer. Romans 7. He even said He was yet carnal. But then He wrote Romans 8 where He said nothing can separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.
We always have to keep the bible in context. James was written to the twelve tribes of Israel scattered abroad. The first verse tells us so. Hebrews was written to the Jewish converts. Not to Gentile believers although there are some things in both books that pertain to us.
@@jimkraft9445 When was Saul who later become the Apostle Paul saved? He told his own conversion story and had to be baptized in Acts 22:16. What was the purpose of his baptism according to Acts 22:16?
Ephesians 1:13-14 We are baptized by the Holy Spirit when we trust Jesus as our savior. In whom ye also trusted, after ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, in whom also AFTER ye believed, ye were sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise. Our guarantee of eternal life. Acts 11:16. Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how He said, John indeed baptized with water, but ye shall be baptized by the Holy Spirit.
Water baptism never saved anyone. It is Jesus blood sacrifice for our sins that saves us. John 3:16-18. Romans 3:26-28 Romans 4:5-8. But to him that worketh not, but believeth on Him who justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for HIS righteousness. We have to be as righteous as God to go to heaven, and no one is. But when we trust him alone apart from any works, He imputes His perfect righteousness to our account.
And our sin debt is paid in full, past, present, and future sins we have not even thought of yet. First John 1:8 IF we say we have no sins we deceive ourselves and the TRUTH is not in us. John 6:47.
First John 5:13 These things have I written unto you that BELIEVE on the name of the Son of God, that ye may KNOW YE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE.
Salvation is eternal thats what Jesus died for God wants christians to know they have eternal life not guess or wonder the hope of the believer is sure if you don't have that settled you might want to examine yourself to see if in the faith
Adam - Noah - man today
Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come. 5:17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.) 5:21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.
You can't serve Jesus without gray so it's grace are you saved through faith and that not of yourselves at least any man should boast so Johnny you can't serve God without having the grace of God and you only can receive the grace of God is by putting your faith in the finished work of the Lord Jesus Christ, basically I'm looking at a dead man walking there's no hope for you always searching in the Scriptures but never finding salvation how sad is that Johnny remember we told you but you didn't believe
the whole point of the Ephesians second baptism is lost in this conversation.. first of all the caller is ignorant... Yes Baptism is important.. it is a representation.. equally as important as the Lord's table... but the Ephesians.. need to be baptized again... because.. they were baptized.. by John.. for repentance of their sins.. they were Not baptized in baptismal waters because they Knew or even heard of Jesus.. that was what Paul was getting at.. the Ephesians.. needed to be baptized.. AFTER they knew and trusted in Jesus....Not to be saved though!.. but as an act of obedience.. and everyone who trusts in or knows Jesus.. NEEDS to be baptized.. after He is made know to them.. Not beforehand... the Baptism of this day and age.. is an act of fellowship and obedience.. a unification.. of the believers a means of Identifying them with our Savior.. showing we are united in one belief.. Not for salvation purposes though...
THE BIBLE SAYS BAPTISM SAVES US
Mark 16:16
He that believeth and is BAPTIZED shall be SAVED; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
1 Peter 3:21
The like figure whereunto even BAPTISM DOTH ALSO NOW SAVE THE US (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
THIS PROVES WITHOUT A DOUBT THAT BAPTISM IS FOR SALVATION!!!!!!!!
all of that makes you a hypocrite
All of what
Unforgiveness is a sin that will prevent a Christian from entering heaven. We will not receive forgiveness if we do not forgive; and we will receive forgiveness in the same measure we use in forgiving (or not forgiving) others. We cannot expect God to forgive our debts if we hold other's debts against them. Scripture is very clear on this. After you become saved if you fall into unforgiveness and die without repenting you will go to hell.
"12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors." [Matt 6:12 from the Lord's Prayer]
Matthew 6:14
For if you forgive men their trespasses, your Heavenly Father will also forgive you.
Matthew 6:15
But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive yours.
Nice answer Noah! God bless you Brother.
Sister you are correct
Would you explain to me how you can loose eternal life? That is an oxymoron. It is impossible to loose eternal life. You may not have ever believed on Jesus as the only way plus nothing to be saved, but you can not loose eternal life. It would no longer be eternal if you could lose it.
John 5:24 Verily, verily I say unto you, he that heareth my words, and believeth on Him that sent me, HATH ETERNAL LIFE, (present tense) and shall not come into judgement but is passed from death unto life. John 3:18 Once we believe we can no longer be condemned to hell, only those that have never trusted Jesus as their only savior are not saved. Those that are trusting in their works, what they do to save themselves, are not saved because they have never done the will of the Father. John 6:40
No, we can't, once we have believed the gospel and are sealed by the Holy Spirit Ephesians 1:13 we can never be lost. What if we do walk away and loose our faith? Second Timothy 2:13 If we believe not, He abideth faithful, HE can not deny Himself. His Holy Spirit who lives in the believer. We only actually have to believe it once to be saved forever.
Second Timothy, 2:19 Nevertheless, the foundation of God is sure, having this seal, (the Holy Spirit) the Lord knoweth them that are His. Once we have believed on Him as the only way of salvation by grace, we are given the Holy Spirit of promise and can never be lost. John 6:39 Jesus has never lost one. Hebrews 13:5 He will never leave us or forsake us. Even if we forsake Him. John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my words, and believeth on HIm that sent me, HATH ETERANL LIFE, and shall not come into judgement but is passed from death unto life.
Eternal life is forever life. If we have eternal life, then if we could loose it it would not be eternal.
The writer of Hebrews was writing to Hebrew converts. We have to discern scripture by who it is written to and why. These were Jewish converts who were saved, but about to go into apostasy and under pressure were going to go back to animal sacrifices. It would have been a terrible sin, but all of our sins were paid for and we can not be lost.
The Galatians were about to loose their blessing under grace for boasting in the law. But they had only fallen from grace. The truth is we can not fall from grace. Where sin abounds, grace much more abounds. Romans 5:19-21.
Gentiles were never under the law and would not go back to animal sacrifices because we never did that in the beginning. If you believe you can be lost, then you have never trusted Jesus in the first place and are trusting in what you do to save yourself. Not on what Jesus did for you and gives it as a free gift. All believers have been sealed by the Holy Spirit where we are born into Gods family, and can never be lost.
John 6:47 Verily, verily I say unto you, He that believeth on me, HATH ETERNAL LIFE.
So if you do not have eternal life, you have no believed and are not saved. You simply believe you can save yourself by how you live an what you do. Your works. Romans 11:6 We can only be saved by grace and no works. If you add one work to grace it is no more grace and you were never a believer in the first place.
Fist John 5:13 These things have I written unto you who BELIEVE ON THE NAME OF THE SON OF GOD THAT YE MAY KNOW YE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE.
But you are an unbeliever. John 3:36 All believers have eternal life. All unbelievers are under the wrath of God because they have not believed.
Acts 8:9-24. Simon believed and was baptized, then was warned to repent lest he be lost.
Galatians 5 :1-7 by trying to be saved through the works of the law, they have fallen away.
Warnings
1 Tim 4:14, Heb 3:12, 1 Corinthians 10:12
2 Peter 2:20-22, James 1:27, Hebrews 3:13
Jude 1:5-7
Causes
Adversary Luke 22:31,1 Peter 5:8, Rev 12:9
False teachers Acts 20:29:30
Perverion of the gospel..2Timothy 4 -3-4
Ignorance1 corrinthians 5:6
Trial and trubulation. Mat 13:20-21 vs 22 Choked by the cares of the world.
Evil companions. 1 Corinthians 15:33
Wrong priorities. Lay up your treasures
Our own influince. Lk 17:1-2
Prevention.
Take heed of Gods faithfullness 1 Cor 10:11-14
Grow in Christian graces 2 Peter 1:5- if you do these things, you shall never fall.
Encouragement from fellow Christians Hebrews 13:3.
Results
Ephesians 2:10 good worker is lost.
Mt 5:13-16 world loses good influence.
Mt 16:26 loses his soul.
2 Peter 2:21 better to have not known. God turned to his own vomit again.
The cure James 2:10, Acts 17:30 like 13:3,5 Repent ask for forgiveness Acts 8:24
1 Jn 1:9 confess sins.
Salvation secured again. 1 John 1:9,
Heb 8:12
Notice the calvinist had no response to Hebrews 10:26 and following.
When people take up doctrine like once saved always saved, they ignore several warnings about falling away.
The bat this is Roy do you don't have to do anything for salvation except believe it believe the gospel celebration is always a separate issue from anything else with in the Bible salvation is what Jesus has done for you so Johnny you are probably not saved
You first Corinthian's chapter 6 verse nine isn't a list of sends for the believer see this is what do you don't seem to understand you're taking it out of context that is talking about brother and brother are going to a secular cord that you should not do you do that and he was place in shame on one another for doing that look at the list of sins and look at it very carefully don't take it out of context OK this is the list of sins that is always for the unbeliever see if you're a believer you have a nose send your sins are forgiven you this is why Johnny will go to hell because of his unbelief
I knew the first time I laid eyes on this Johnny guy I knew right then and there here's an unbeliever that will never experience the things of happened because he has what you call a reprobate mind
Paul Gross i am surprised that you judge him already. Can you tell me what makes a man saved? I believe he is a Christian just by listening to this short video
Great post Sweep. God Bless.
Invite Steve Baisdon on your show, live. please!
Johnny it really doesn't matter you can have all the power you want and you can sit at your table and you can have a 40 but you just don't understand the guy sitting right here next to you has all the authority that he has to have over you you're a nonbeliever and you're not going and I repeat you're not going to have it this is a clear cut case this is your last warning this is your warning this is this this is the state that your in you are an unbeliever that is all you are you can sit there and you can debate whoever you want to debate but when you stand before the Lord Jesus Christ you're going to be standing in front of him as an on believer Mark my words
a single unpure thought sends a Christian to hell. heard that argument a million times. please man pick up the bible a read it all the way through.
Hebrews 10:38-39
the whole book of James
these indicate habitual action not a fleeting thought James even goes so far as to say sin does not bring forth spiritual death until it is actualized through action. If this is true for sin how much more true is it for living by faith bringing forth salvation.
James 1:15 Then, when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, brings forth death.
James 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
Romans 5:20 Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:
Romans 5:21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord. What sin is greater then God's grace? None. Not one Christian will be going to hell. Maybe YOU should read the whole NT. IN CONTEXT!
Habitual action of sin? As far as salvation goes, habitual action is no different than one single sin. Only self-righteous people like yourself don't want to admit that
Good comment John. Self righteous works salvation deny the very words Jesus says in John 6:37-40. They will still post verses against it & get mad at me for calling them a Anti Christ. Yet who is the ones in here calling Jesus & God a liar? O Jesus saves, but only with my help! Good luck on that one! I told one guy remove your nic on YT & put satan then look at who is doing satans work. They still think they are doing Jesus work yet denying that we are saved by grace,period. God Bless you John & your family.
Tommy. Exactly. I am always being accused of "promoting sin" somehow as if I'm telling people to go out and break all of God's commands to be saved. That's not my intention at all, but people love attacking the truth. Everyone will admit that they still sin, oh but as long as you don't make a "practice of sin" you're ok... are you kidding me? In God's eyes it's black and white, you're either a sinner who deserves Hell, or you're perfectly blameless and worthy of Heaven. Christ is the only way we can be counted blameless before God, and our lifestyle has nothing to do with it because we will always be sinners. Self-righteous people never want to admit how sinful they are, and will always try to find ways around it. This was the exact reason why Jesus and the Pharisees didn't get along, so it's nothing new. Thank you and God bless you as well
Very well pointed out John! One of one of the best response I ever got from a person. Thanks John, Wish there are more of you around.
I believe like Steve Baisdon and Holger Neabauer.
If we were saved by how we live and what we do, we would be our own savior, and Jesus died in vain. When we trust Him as our savior we receive the free gift of salvation by grace, Ephesians 2:8-9 and our sin debt has been paid in full. First John 2:2. IF all of our sins were not paid for no one could be saved. First John 1:8 If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and he truth is not in us. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, and we all sin because we are not perfect, but the GIFT of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
We have been sealed by the Holy Spirit unto the day of redemption. Ephesians 1:13 and 4:30. John 3:18 We can no longer be condemned. John 5:24 Verily, veily, I say unto you, he that heareth my word, and believeth on Him that sent me, HATH ETERANL LIFE, and shall not come intu judgement but is passed from death unto life
You can not loose eternal life. That is impossible. But we can loose our life early and our rewards in heaven. First Corinthians 5:5.
folks you better believe there's something you have to do.... Philippians 2:11-13 (KJV)
11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
6153calme I agree we must work out our salvation notice it does not say work for our salvation and also we must already have salvation to work out
6153calme I agree we must work out our salvation notice it does not say work for our salvation and also we must already have salvation to work out
6153calme our part is to believe Jesus and he does the work so no can say look what I have done no it's look what the Lord has done and he receives all the glory and honor due to him when they asked what shall we do to work the works of God Jesus said this THE work of God believe on him whom he has sent.
@@kevinramsey1435 He also does the work in baptism so like I said earlier baptism is a part of faith so it is essential for salvation; must do all that Jesus says to do to be saved by Him.
I know this interview is old now but Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man (Adam) sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Rom 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Johnny you pick what you like from scripture to justify your own beliefs.
You act like you don’t sin and yet you’re talking to this man and belittling him with pride in your heart. So, by your own belief you condemn yourself. According to your own beliefs, had you have died during the interview you’d be in Hell. All unrighteousness is sin.
Yet God’s Grace is with us, and it’s not a free license to sin. This younger brother knew what he was talking about. There’s not one without sin.
Also, what if someone believes on the Lord Jesus Christ by faith to save them and there’s no body of water where they’re at and they die are you going to tell me that they’re not saved or Jesus will refuse to save them because they never had the time to be submersed in water? This doctrine that you must be baptized to truly be saved surely has some holes in it.
You create salvation based on certain variables.
Well, I guess people living in a desert or those who live in prison will never have the chance to be saved. That’s terrible!
if you trust in water baptism in anyway to get you to heaven you will die in your sins only Jesus can save us salvation is a gift if water baptism is necessary for salvation then salvation ceases to be a gift if you have to do anything it's not a gift the only thing you can do with a gift is receive it or reject it The way you receive it is by faith and faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God if you believe God you receive if don't believe you reject the gift of God
Kevin Ramsey Do you need to repent and confess Jesus is son of God (Acts 8:35-39)?
It's really easy to see there is a debate right and here's how you determine who is telling the truth the one that has more forgiveness and mercy that's the side I'm going to take because that's who God is she's full of mercies every day so I would say the Johnny him is going to Hell just because he doesn't believe and that's the only reason why! And look launch her a reprobate mind there is no change in you so Johnny's set in his ways and he'll burn forever and he'll have to have to pay the piper
if you trust in water baptism in anyway to get you to heaven you will die in your sins only Jesus can save us salvation is a gift if water baptism is necessary for salvation then salvation ceases to be a gift if you have to do anything it's not a gift the only thing you can do with a gift is receive it or reject it The way you receive it is by faith and faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God if you believe God you receive if don't believe you reject the gift of God
Kevin Ramsey ,a gift you are to learn from is in Josh.6:1 and following. Paul told Timothy that the OT was to be studies to make one wise unto salvation which in faith of Christ 2tim 3;15