Death by Mid-Range: Isiah Thomas Eliminates Michael Jordan and the Bulls (1989)
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
- June 2, 1989 - Isiah Thomas scored 16 of his 33 points in the fourth quarter, pushing the Detroit Pistons to a 103-94 win over Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls in Game 6 of the 1989 Eastern Conference Finals, The victory clinched the Pistons' second consecutive NBA Finals berth, where they'd sweep the Los Angeles Lakers and earn the first NBA championship in franchise history.
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Isiah Thomas eliminates Michael Jordan, again (1990): ruclips.net/video/RX3QCp4hnyw/видео.html&
Bad Boys eliminated them I think 5 years in a row. Pistons won title's beating Bird's Celtics, Magic's Lakers and the Bulls. Tell me who the Bulls beat in their 6 lame titles?
@@jimkennedy5202 I watch this every morning before work 😂 lol 🏀
@@jimkennedy5202 League was "weak"... but dont tell them that!
@@jimkennedy5202 3 years in a row. 1988 (ECSF), 1989 and 1990 (both ECF).
This video has barely 70k views in 4 years, search "mj last 3 mins vs utah game 6 1998" it has 41 million views in 5 years, jordan jockers suck.
Isiah Lord Thomas will NEVER get the true credit he deserves. Never.
James Haliburton Cuz people worship Jordan. That’s why.
I think that why he takes shots at Jordan because he won’t give Zeke his credit
Well Jordan himself said Isiah is only 2nd to Magic as PG. That's the best credit and it's from MJ himself.
@@PpJjStock Isiah is the best PG of all time.
He shot horrible when playing jordan shooting under 40% 2x and once at 40%
I'll always be grateful to have lived in the time of Isiah.
As impressive as this is, even more impressive was when Zeke dropped 25 points in one quarter while playing with a sprained ankle ...in the NBA Finals...against Magic, Kareem and the Showtime Lakers
Amen. That was the most courageous, unconscious performance we've ever seen. It is almost unreal. He could barely walk...
Amen
@@gordongrant444 best performance ever! Jordan is a close second
They still lost the game. Kills all that effort he put
This performance by Zeke was the single most extraordinary sports feat I have ever seen. My God, balls as big as...basketballs.
OMG ISAIAH THOMAS gave Jordan da business! I'm rethinking everything. Put some RESPECT on Zekes name!!!🏀
then learn how to spell it correctly first..
"During the regular season the Pistons won all six games over the Bulls." Total dominance
Isiah was giving jordan the business real golden era of the nba and im a 90s baby
All within the framework of the offense. No standing at the top of the key, pounding the ball for 23 seconds to jack up a 3. Beautiful basketball
Exactly bro...
Best point guard Isaiah Thomas sending Chicago home. Simply an amazing Mid range killer. Crisp Clean Cross over moves
Arturo Maximo I like it when Michael Jordan figure out their game then Michael trusted his teammates a little more Michael started lifting weights and he became a threat the Pistons never won a game after the 90 91 season ever again against the Chicago Bulls the Detroit Pistons disappear like if they never existed Isiah Thomas Dumars all the guys were like where is everyone remember when you have a prey like Michael Jordan was for them that prey became the Hunter and from that point on the Pistons became Michael Jordan prey because he knew that there were the only obstacle to win all the Championships that he got if it wouldn't be because of the Pistons he probably had like eight or nine but he figure out their game and like I said they became the prey... He destroyed literally the Detroit Pistons forever like this guy is insane Michael Jordan is insane that's a real monster like when you have a monster that you can't kill then you get scared because you can't destroy that monster that's what Michael Jordan became to them....
Poli Gonzo ....Hey, the bulls did what they did after 1990. But that dont change the fact that the "D" put a whoopin to them motherfuckers from '88-'90. you can write a thousand comments about what the bulls did afterwards, if won't change what happened BEFORE that though.
theloverswineverytime what u mean they never stopped me, Isaiah Thomas even said that they never did, the guy still averaged 30 a game against them it was just a matter of how to involve everyone and Jordan did and hey where are the pistons, and where is MJ the GOAT, buahahahahahaha
Poli Gonzo ....Did they or did they not lose to Detroit three straight years? Yes or no?
theloverswineverytime they lost but regardless where are the Pistons right now where are all those guys those guys are like nothing nobody right now they don't even exist people don't even talk about them so it doesn't matter how many times you win is your legacy Michael set up his legacy as the bad boy killer as the greatest basketball player of all times against the dirty basketball so thanks goodness Michael Jordan existed and destroy the Pistons, the pistons were trying to build and Empire of assholes that were disliked by everyone that's why I said Thomas didn't even make the team for the Olympics nobody wanted him and the bulls never lost a game ever again against the Pistons they were like nobody they play like amateurs and Rodman became someone when he joined MJ. Buahahahahahaha the pistons became the embarrassment of the league and karma hit Thomas so hard broke his akiles tendon and had to retire, as simple as that Bill Laimbeer became a coach of girls the guy that used to be a bully well Charles Barkley and Michael Jordan gave him a black eye but you know where is that guy like I said karma when Karma hits it hits hard bro hard....
Is anyone more disrespected than Isiah Thomas? Won a national championship, was the ONLY one of his era who won a ring without a top 50 player on his team (did it twice!), has an all-time winning record against Jordan, Magic, AND Bird, & he did it all in a 6'1" body.
Without a top 75 player as well
@bob Rushlook at the list idiot
@bob Rush none of these guys were Top 50 players
@bob Rush MFer, find where they were voted 50 Greatest.
Rodman was voted on the Top 75.
Don't try to sell me that BS.
Tarzan Jones I can say eas Top 50, doesn't mean the MFer was voted Top 50.
@@antonioguglielmetti2661 Rodman was top 75.
Sidebar: Dumars was better than Damian Lillard and many people would take Bill Laimbeer over Anthony Davis.
People need to start respecting Isiah Thomas.
The only people that DON'T respect Zeke are 1) anyone born too late that never saw him play 2) Bulls fans 3) fans of today's 3-point shooting contest with extra guys on the floor that is considered basketball 4) Michael Jordan.
Ok
One of the best players of All-Time. Best pure PG in History. If he was 6’6 he’d be in the goat conversation. Man was a legend
Dude is a phenomenal talent(deserved the dream team) cant say so much as person. Funny thing is you can say the same about MJ...
One of these 2 people maintained themselves better on that Likeabilty scale though.
@@maxpeck4154 3) Wasn't Isiah Thomas the best 3 point shooter ?
That rebound and outlet pass for the layup was amazing!
Isiah was like sugar ray leonard...small, scrappy, and he would never quit!!!!
Perfect analogy..
@@rockyward5007 In a 3 year period, Leonard beat Benetiz, Duran, Hearns and later Hagler
Isiah between 87 and 90 beat Dominique, King, Moses, Bird, Magic, Worthy, Jabbar, Jordan, Drexler and Miller.
Loved the 3guard attack of dumars, zeke, and microwave Vinny Johnson!
"One of the best defensive teams in memory...." One of the best teams period....ever! Not the best, one of the best. Great Dee, great half-court disciplined offense.
And two HOF guards, Dumars and Thomas, sort of helped a little. Just a fine, fine team on both sides of the ball.
Best! When you consider the referees gave close calls to their opponents on orders from Stern. Watch the effin games again for the proof!
@@joyis9638 I hear you, brother.
@3:57. You have problems when a 6-1 guard posts you up at 6-6 in the 4th quarter with your season on the line.
Emmanuel Enyinwa
Jordan was a very good defender but he always struggled against Thomas. He even said once that Thomas gave him the most trouble defensively.
His post defense was never that good, and I’ve been saying it for years.
That's why Jordan did not want Thomas on the dream team
It was not just him. Magic also did not want him. Larry called him up , while guess who did not want him in the league during the Aids issue? Read between the lines when he said he found out who his friends were. He was friends with Thomas before that happened.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@gwynedd1
That's cool. This was likely Jordan's reason, though.
@@J-Huea lot of players didn't want Isiah on the dream team, but they only listened to MJ
This is what made Jordan heartless. Getting beat up on. That's y he never showed mercy. Even on friends. Sir Charles ect
Funny how all the revisionist Jordan jockers always ignore the fact Isaiah used to own Jordan, not just from a team stand point, but for the fact that Jordan never could guard him individually.
jordan was a great defender, but he definitely struggled guarding thomas. He was quick with his feet (espeacially for a two guard) bit not as quick as isiah. The little quick guys tended to give him trouble in general.
Bulls went 27-0 against Thomas and the Pistons were finally swept and defeated. Playing against the Bad Boys made Jordan motivated and stronger every year. Its called "growing pains". Once he figured it all out and got over the hump, he stamped in his legacy. Even Rodman had to get in on it LMAO
"Bulls went 27-0 against Thomas and the Pistons were finally swept and defeated."
This is a typo, right?
+Emmanuel Enyinwa No. After the Bulls swept the Pistons, they proceeded to go 27-0 against them every time they met to send a message.
+D Long Jordan publicly said Thomas was the hardest person he ever had to guard. No one is denying that. Does that make Isiah Thomas goat? Like I said, once Jordan figured Thomas and the Pistons out, they never stood a chance. 27-0 after the Bulls swept them in the playoffs and Pistons refused to shake hands!
Isiah thomas would always kick jordans ass in the playoffs and they never mention this.
6 1" Isiah taking MJ inside and out, doing what he wants against MJ, although MJ was unbelievably passive in these clips
He just couldn't believe he was getting his butt kicked like that.
Passive?
Unbelievably lazy D. The whole game. MJ should be ashamed.
Isiah in his prime was *unbelievably* quick. Even MJ had trouble staying in front of him. You can see him sagging off him to contain his drive and Isiah is raining jumpers on him.
Jay Thompson pistons got injured and key players left. Also flagrants were implemented to take away their iconic physical play.
Jay Thompson you’re just angry that Jordan got completely wrecked in the clutch this game LOL
Zeke gave Jordan the business
Richard Riley not to mention the fact the it was post prime isiah thomas
Where was mjs “will to win,” huh? He got outplayed and bitched around by a dude 5 inches shorter than him lol
@udYi Q Not until 1991 - ONE TIME that the Bulls beat the Pistons in the playoffs.
MJ is such a punk
Isiah was making Jordan look bad on defense with his crossover, his fade aways on the block etc and this from a guy who is 5'11" on a good day and Jordan looked lost on defense when Zeke would rub him off screens pop up on the opposite side for a wide open shot.
The thing that never gets talked about in regards to Isiah is that the guy had a crazy mad basketball IQ in that he could control the game and 9 other people like a conductor controlling an orchestra and it was a thing of beauty to see. And he understood the concept of one on defense and team defense and the Pistons played great team defense in that they all helped each other on defense.
Pound for pound, Isiah was as good as Bird, Magic or Jordan and the guy could flat out get it done and he made every PG he played against look bad and he frustrated them all.
Shutup you delusional fangirl
Delusional m0r0n
Waauw Isiah was a monster
That mid range is killing, they need to bring it back in the league heavy. Looks like the bulls had no answer for Isiah but he wasn’t good enough for the Dream Team? His chips was legit and he need his damn respect too( in my Lebron voice).
is it just me or does thomas float every time he shoots. he just insane like he rly got bounce
Those of us who witnessed it at the time know that the Pistons were a team for the ages. Detroit never gets the respect it deserves anyway, so let the ignorant ones howl at the moon.
People sleep on Zeke when discussing the all-time greats. They forget just how good Isiah really was.
Jay Yep. I´m still not convinced that Steph Curry is better than IT.
No way Curry is better than Isiah
WILLIAM MORRISON curry would literally pull a 3 from the logo sign on i.t
I've got Isiah top 3 POINT guards ever. Base on skill level, leadership, and Championships, Magic, Isiah, Steph. Honorable mention to Clyde Frazier.
@@princevegetassgss8331 well I think Steph Curry played for a longer time. so its not that fair..
MJ may have been not only the best basketball player ever, but maybe the best pro athlete ever. But Isiah at 6'1" used to light up
Michael pretty good on the rare instances that Jordan had to guard Isiah. Sometimes there is this one guy who just gives you fits.
No, I am not saying Isiah was better than Jordan. I am saying that Isiah was a tough match up for him.
Research Jim Thorpe, Jim Brown, Wilt, Bo for staters.
MJ was just a basketball player whose career was impeccably timed.
Swap his career timing with Wilt's, Oscar's, or even Dr. J, he'd be lucky to be an afterthought. They'd still make the 50 greatest list. He most likely would not.
@@robertcherry7190 Truth. the Lakers and Celtics had aged. The Bad Boys took their last best years. Isaiah was aging and banged up from being a small penetrating guard in the roughest era in NBA history. And expansion diluted the league.
Robert Cherry ive seen plenty of footage of most mentioned and just by going off the eye test its easy that MJ was better than everyone you mentioned. Nostalgia is a crazy thing
@Jay Thompson Isiah also had a broken wrist in 91'
@Jay Thompson He played 48 games and barely played in the Semifinals vs Boston .. Isiah lost .. ya'll bringing up the one time he lost as if he didn't beat Jordan 3 consecutive years and has a winning record against him.
Wow the pistons don’t get enough recognition!
They did not have a real superstar. They were a well built and solid team down to their bench. Also a smaller market. Even Chicago is considered flyover and it takes an MJ to take them seriously.
This is why the MJ led Bulls dominated the 90s. After beating the Bad boys, there was no other team that they couldn't beat
Isiah was a beast
Every time Isaiah Thomas scores the crowd at Chicago Stadium goes quiet. They silenced the crowd for the most part in Game 6.
Zeke asking the Killmonger question, “ Is this your king?” while destroying MJ.
This is why MJ still hates this man
Isiah Thomas is the most underrated player in history. Because he played for Detroit and we had the “Bad Boy” image people hated them. He was the only star player to deny Jordan from winning championships and because MJ was the chosen one the league hated him and the pistons. It’s why he was snubbed from the dream team and why he’s never talked about as a top 10 player of all time. The fact remains he’s the best pure pg ever and if he were 6’6 and never broke his ankle he’d be in the goat conversation. He’s the only player to beat Larry Bird, Michael Jordan, and Magic Johnson (all in the same season mind you) in their primes…which is another reason the league hated him cause those 3 were the poster childs of the NBA for 10+ years and Isiah and the Bad Boy Pistons interrupted the league narrative. The Pistons won back to back titles in 89’/90’ but it really should have been the first 3 peat since the old Celtics. If not for a phantom foul called on Laimbeer for idk being too close to Kareem in game 6 of the 88 finals they would have won that year too. That foul cost them the game and game 7 was never a contest because Isiah was hurt in game 6 and literally gave his all to win the chip that night, scoring 25pts in the 3rd Qtr on 1 leg (go watch the highlights). That was the single greatest performance by a player in the finals I had ever seen. It’s a shame the refs cost them the game or that would still be talked about as the greatest finals performance of all time.
I know the mainstream will never give the man his flowers, but Isiah Lord Thomas was and is one of the greatest players of all time…period.
Isiah Thomas is the most underrated & disrespected player in NBA history!!
Shutup troll
The Greatest NBA team leader of all time
Maybe the greatest player p4p in the modern era of hoops. If he was 6'6"-6'9" like Magic, Bird, and Jordan, those all time lists would look a little different.
THOMAS IS TRULY THE GOAT
No he's not.
Isiah is the best PG of all time.
True
If you're talking P4P, very possible.
the mid range game is now a lost art.
Shai's bringing it back, for sure :)
It's still there. Shai, Luka, KD, Booker, all still make a killing with it. Jokic and Embiid use it a good amount too.
And absolute thing of beauty!
He beat all the greats in their Prime....the original AD, McHale, Parish, Dominique, Sir Charles, Bird, MJ, Drexeler, Worthy, Scottie, and Magic.
Maintained a Winning Record versus Jordan.
...give him his Rose's while he is here.
Winning record vs Magic and Bird and MJ also .. reg and post season.
Legendary.
Isaiah was unconscious in this game and that team was, by far, the best team in the NBA that year. Even if Magic hadn't gotten hurt, the Finals would have been over in five or six gamez.
Yo I love Isaiah, second best pg next to magic...but the lakers were a juggernaut that year...and magic and scott got hurt that finals....I'm taking la if they r healthy
@@keithbperrin9633 We'll have agree to agree to disagree on that one. The Pistons win in '88 too if not for a phantom foul called on Laimbeer!
@@gordongrant444 good point
@@keithbperrin9633 And where were you when Thomas got hurt in 1988? Never said a word about that!
@@gordongrant444 Yup .. the NBA was corrupt and still is ... Pistons are far better than just 2 titles ...
It takes a T E A M !
Isiah knew how to run a team. Jordan did not.
Not yet but eventually he did
But Zeke had Dumar, Rodman, Lambeer, the microwave. all can score.
who did 1989 Jordan had. Not even Pippen who was bench warmer then.
@@mkhan8527 Worm is a Piston, never a real Bull. Isiah had a sketchy group of players to work with, but he led them brilliantly. Jordan was never a leader. A great player, but not a leader. Without Worm he would have accomplished a lot less.
@@ghostrider764thanks to Phil Jackson
@@KingGeorge23 I take it you didn’t watch the Last Dance. You don’t win 6 titles unless your a leader. Last time I checked Phil didn’t hit those game winning shots or hit 6 three pointers
Jordan notoriously had trouble with small quick guards. Zeke AI, Damon Stoudemire.
I thought mj was "perfect"
Nobody is
He’s not. Ain’t no player perfect. They can stfu about it now.
@ Boogie City he is. In the Finals
only in the NBA Finals
He got beaten by a bunch of monsters no shame in that.
I don’t see any handchecking in this footage, nor do I see mj getting knocked on his ass.
snatch sniffer neither do I
@udYi Q Pistons swept MJ more than once egghead
36 - 29
Isiah's record against Mike.
6>2 and sweep to Isiah
@@iourwh4992 Pistons won in 88 and MJ is LUCKY that he came into the league between Bad Boys and Shaq-Kobe .... Do you really think that the teams of Magic, Bird and Thomas would not have won 6 titles in those same years?! And remember, Bulls needed Rodman, a Bad Boy, to win 3 of those. MJ and his teams were inferior to those 3 teams and to Kobe-Shaq.
@@joyis9638 I’m not reading all that
One day, this video showed up in Jordan’s RUclips feed
That’s when he decided to green light The Last Dance
Damn algorithm
😂😂😂😂😂
Isiah Thomas most underrated player.
hmmm
Nah Dumars
Who is underrating him everyone knows hes the goat pg
The Pistons are known for their Bad Boy tactics - However this video doesn't exploit that. This Piston Team just out handled the Bulls - Isaiah was just a scoring machine - hot handed. Wow!
Now THIS was basketball at its finest. I turn the game off nowadays when they're all chucking up 3s and it's 74-69 at half-time.
Lol look at mj face salty lmao
@Krazie Genius jordan still so salty he didnt want IT on the dream team
All of us who are there are supposed to forget all of Isaiah‘s teammates hugging him and opposing players hugging him and smiling with him? Just because of the same old same old NBA ESPN Jordan Nike campaign documentary says so? Hahaha Jordan is a lunatic and so is all the Nike money men behind him. Horace Grant hated Jordan’s azz. Do any of Isaiah’s teammates hate him? Hahaha media hype machine is a joke. Jordan is famous for his mid range? This dude is 6 inches shorter and torched Jordan. This is where Jordan learned his game, boys. Zeke is smaller and killed him. Embarrassed him. Y’all need to just go on somewhere.
@udYi Q Chuck Daly never said anything like that. Michael was the only one who said that in hopes that Gullible people would believe him.
This is why Jordan didn't want Isiah on the dream team.
@udYi Q No because jordan hated the fact that isiah thomas would kick his ass almost all the time
Bad boys for life
God is good. Uk wats really cool. Isaiah and Mark Aguirre. Childhood friends n teammates winning it all. Imagine they mother's, family, seeing all this. How good did they feel
The remarkable thing about Isiah Thomas' game was his versatility.
At 6-1, he could be your Bob Cousy, Kevin Porter or Guy Rodgers to run your offense or he could be Jerry West, Oscar Robertson, Earl Monroe, Dave Bing and score in bunches or in late game scenarios, he could be your go to guy like Kareem, Bird, MJ or Sam Jones.
That's why his high school team competed for a state title, why his international team won a gold medal (before he even played a college game), won his collegiate team won the NCAA tournament and why his NBA went to 3 straight finals
The man was as skilled as they came REGARDLESS of size.
facts
The BAD BOYS were awesome. If they hadnt gotten old they woulda been hooping MJ and Migraine Pippen for a decade.
During Detroit's 1989 title run, they were 10-2 against the Bulls
They had no concern for the Bulls, only the Celtics and Lakers.
@@ayefranks exactly 💯💪
Didn’t show this on the Last Dance lol
Well Detroit, you made Michael Jordan cry. I hope you're happy. And look at the class act from Michael Jordan shaking hands, hugging the Pistons in defeat wow. That is class, that is class.
Isiah Thomas was totally unstoppable. just as good if not better than jordan
Ummm no
Bwahahaha
Lmao no he wasn’t
Stfu
Leave the drugs alone goofball smh
Michael Jordan wasn't getting past the Pistons for several years. Not until he had coach Phil Jackson, Pippen, Grant, Paxson, Cartwright, and other supporting cast members stepped up their game with the triangle offense. Until then, Pistons dominated, used their "Jordan Rules" to limit his scoring just enough (of course he was going to score no matter what) to prevail. I hear the Alan Parsons project Sirius at 4:45, which is obviously what they would later use for the starting lineups with Ray Clay, the public address announcer.
That’s why Demar DeJordan still hates Isiah to this day
rafikz77 there is def a lot of bad blood between the Bulls and Pistons to this day. I would say Jordan is a mix of Kawhi and Westbrook + creativity lol
Clyde the Glide #top5SG&top10dunkerever 👍
That's major disrespect right there. If Demar had 85% Jordan's mental game, he'd still be in Toronto with a ring or two to add to his legacy.
This is whats missing in todays game. Those mid range jumpers
The top players still make a killing with it. It's 1 reason why I love seeing Shai vs Luka is my fav head to head matchups. They work the mid range game like what I grew up on.
@2:30. What is the WORLD is Jordan doing? That is some TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE effort.
Emmanuel Enyinwa Sad part is Zeke has a bandage on his thigh and hamstring muscle
Emmanuel Enyinwa that's because he was injured
Where is the Jordan's defense? He got chewed up.
Scott Davidson Boy got cooked. His Stans tell me he can guard anybody. Bullshit.
@@Maal7432 Jordan homers think he can pass better than Magic and shoot better than Bird and rebound better than Chamberlain. LMAO
@@dociebiemowie915 literally nobody has said that
That Thomas guy is pretty good maybe he should play in the upcoming olympics
ALL that *udYi Q* says is "Swept, swept, swept", and "excuses, excuses", when the latter are actually FACTS, and the former happened *ONE TIME* in 1991. He wants to take away and delegitimize the bad boys as a championship caliber team. Back to Back championships. They ended the reign of the Boston Celtics, the Los Angeles Lakers, and said "Not so fast" to the Chicago Bulls, you're gonna have to wait several years. The Bulls second threepeat in the late 90s, who was on that team other than Jordan and Pippen? That's right two of the bad boys - Dennis Rodman and John Salley.
It seems he got banned poor little udYi Q 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@dynamic6645 Probably a spammer.
The Dream Team without Isiah it was simply a shame
I agreed WITH YOU
@udYi Q You or I could have played on that team and gold would still be the result so stop saying stupid things. It was all about the honor of who were the best players of the 80s. MJ was a twerp in this.
Michael Jordan was bitter.
Dream team my ass. Isiah owned Jordan. And that's a historical fact!
That outlet pass he threw to Dumars at the 2 43 mark is gold.
5:23 and nice enough to sign for a youngster in Chicago!
Yup
Jordan was a scorer and a pretty good defender against some players. He really could not defend against quick guards. Watch as Isiah runs Jordan around picks, he just can't keep up. Against taller guards (and a little slower) Jordan does OK. As a forward, Jordan always had trouble with stronger forwards. they would pound him inside, usually getting a big rebounding edge. Detroit was a better team but they got old. Strange how that happens. Also, the league started to bend the rules in favor of Jordan for TV ratings.
One of the better assessments I've read about the Pistons as regards the Bulls. Your last statement is exactly how I observed things as well. The Bad Boys were good for the first Championship, but the powers-that-be wanted a Jordan dynasty and the Bad Boys were simply in the way the second time round. What would be your "take" about what happened to the Pistons in '91 against the Bulls? I'd be interested in hearing it.
When Bulls beat them in 91, Pistons weren't old. In fact, if MJ had support in game 7 of ECF in 90, they would have won.
thehAPPYgunner, you are assuming that they would have won, and I feel that it diminishes what the Pistons accomplished.
Chicago lost, there is no excuse. In 1991, CHI won. Everybody looses, including Mike.
Exactly. I say this shit and people think I’m crazy.
thehAPPYgunner They were old. Stop it.
How understimetaded is Detroit Pistons super boys are.🇧🇷I always spoken about him when I came back to Brasil in 1992 about Mahones; Salley; Edwards;Aguirre;Rodman;Vinnie Johnson;Dumars; Laimbeer and The best LEADER in the NBA history a man who managed to overcome Celtics proud;LA LAKERS and stop the GOAT MJ and Chuck Dale was amazing coach but after he agree to left his LEADER out of dream team in BARCELONA 1992 nobody coud understand until nowdays why ISIAH THOMAS still is so hated and they should make a documentary Without me nobody never had the last dance.
Boxscore says Thomas had 33 points.
I appreciate the lookout. Fixed (three years later).
@@Swove2204 haha late better than never
Isiah had 33 in Game 2
Isiah had 27-10-8 in Game 4.
Isiah had 34 in Game 6.
What? I thought Jordan was supposed to "will" his team to win.
the Jordan narratives are stupid tbh
I'm surprised the NBA establishment and the Jordan minions didn't ban this video from being shown !!
Shutup troll
YES! Captain Thomas!
He cooked Jordan and pistons dominated him till they got old. They beat a in his prime Jordan six times in the regular season that year. That's why he cant stand Issiah cause he was cooking him 4 years
they were not old
@@l3__lvl__ yeah they were the NBA in those days were a lot more physical and the Lakers and Celrics made it deep I. The finals every year nor did they have today's players modern conditioning. They were all 3 shot and burned out by the nineties only someone who does not know what they are talking bout would say they were still in their primes and not done. You played 82 even when hurt In those days notice Jordan only played a older Magic and Lakers team once in the finals. Jordan is way over rated he beat weak teams but couldn't beat strong ones had to wait till they got old. Let's see in the 80's Bord swept him twice Pistonns took him out on 5 the n 6 then 7 games and I think bucks took them out in 6. I remember that Jordan well.
@@sixers0126 I love Isiah too but sorry, you don't have to say all this bs about Jordan. We can talk about the whys and ifs forever.. the thing is they were both phenomenal players but in the end, it is sports, and there has to be a winner and a loser.
@@l3__lvl__ just saying Jordan is a Goat but not the Goat. Hes the greatest of all time in the 90's that's it.
Nice how Jordan shakes hands of the opposition after they eliminate him. Liked the late '80s Pistons. Some great teams.
Zeke is the truth.... one of the best to do it!!!! He should have shook hands in 1991. He had nothing else to prove. Beat Bird, Magic & Mike... 3 finals appearances. 2 Chips
Let the NBA historians tell it all the Pistons did ON EVERY PLAY was knock the hell outta MJ. They always seem to leave out exactly how great Isiah & the Pistons were skill wise! Smh
Bull crap! Let's watch a game and what happens is MJ falls down flopping. Exactly who ever got knocked out of a game by the Bad Boys. Rewatch that famous fall and roll around game in 1990 game 1 ECF. No one even touched MJ as he split the triple team.
The NBA had to do something to come up with to destroy that team. I believe they had two more titles in them.
moomoo hakim ...Nah, ima give the Bulls some credit and say that it was just their time to win after 1990. Pistons just ran out of gas
Rik Mahorn off the team helped the bulls
SIX divisional match ups in the regular season?!? That sounds pretty cool.
That's how it was before they added more teams and reduced it to four.
4:18 what a pass to Joe.D
First of all...Doug Collins; horrible coach. Seen comments comparing head to head numbers of Jordan and Isaiah. Not fair! Pistons were a more balanced team. Zeke would not have comparable points in most cases. Jordan could not guard Isaiah. He was too quick, but almost as importantly he was as competitive as Jordan and had a ton of heart. Saw a post claiming Bulls were 27-0 versus the Pistons post elimination in 91. That was not against the Bad Boys. Pistons were still good teams but injury and age and long playoff runs had taken their toll. Through retirements and trades and Thomas' achilles injury that age of Pistons ball came to an unceremonious close. I miss that style of basketball, rivalry and competitiveness.
@udYi Q No, the EFFIN TRUTH since Bulls just WHINNNNNE instead of taking their losses like men.
Collins was not a horrible coach
In 1988 and 1989, he got them further in the playoffs then they had been since 1975 .
The problem was the players on Chicago played scared against Detroit.
@123slasher.16 He took them further? He had Michael Effin Jordan. He did not have control of his team and deferred to MJ too much. Phil did not defer. He did a better job of putting them all in a position to succeed.
@@kclark8080 who put Grant and Pippen in the starting lineup?
Who won playoff series over higher seeded Cleveland and NY teams?
Who had Detroit down 1-0 and 2-1?
He HANDED Phil Jackson a team ready to compete for a title.
Jackson got the same starting 5 one year later and took them JUST one game further .
DUMB COMMENT!
This clip shows MJ playing LAZY ASS D.
I wonder if he was worried that #11 was gonna make him look really bad.
Isiah is 36-29 against Jordan
Yeah he has a winning record head to head to bad jordan bitches it's facts
@udYi Q Just admit it jordan would always get his ass kicked by Isiah thomas here's the proof just look at this clip jordan I believe just beat him once in a series and thomas would always kick his ass
@udYi Q Pistons won in 88 b/c of a crooked ref and MJ is LUCKY that he came into the league between Bad Boys and Shaq-Kobe .... Do you really think that the teams of Magic, Bird and Thomas would not have won 6 titles in those same years?! And remember, Bulls needed Rodman, a Bad Boy, to win 3 of those. MJ and his teams were inferior to those 3 teams and to Kobe-Shaq. Hardy har har !!!
@udYi Q Pistons won in 88 b/c of a crooked ref and MJ is LUCKY that he came into the league between Bad Boys and Shaq-Kobe .... Do you really think that the teams of Magic, Bird and Thomas would not have won 6 titles in those same years?! And remember, Bulls needed Rodman, a Bad Boy, to win 3 of those. MJ and his teams !!!! were inferior to those 3 teams and to Kobe-Shaq. Hardy har har !!!
Cry, Little Mike!
Isaiah Thomas was good he's the baby goat
Isiah destroyed MJ and his team destroyed Mj's. That's why the goat hold a grudge......
he lit that bald-headed bum up all game long while being his bumness was scoreless down the stretch at home! Lol!
lol!😄 Bald head bum.
You don't have to bad-mouth Michael to appreciate Isiah. As a Die-hard Piston fan, I know very well how great MJ was. I don't
have to hate Michael to like Isiah.
Lmaooooooooo 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Damn lmao.
lurking0death But Bulls fans do it to Isiah.
Isiah scored on Jordan quite often.
Jordan used to roasted by Isiah. I'm not even joking !
Jordan couldn't guard him at all.
That fake on Jordan at 4:02...sweet!
almost all of the bad boys could shoot amazing three pointers ..:O
Isiah and Dumars or Steph and Klay?
Isiah Dumars. Isiah would had never got outplayed by Kyrie Irving and Dumars and Klay are even, Dumars more of a play maker
The rules are so different. You can't touch a guy any more. No hand check, so pounding picks...Isaiah would've run roughshod over today's NBA....Period. And Dumars was a tremendous shooter and post up guard with great moves around the basket. Klay is a bigger guy but that wouldn't matter. If its 80s rules, those Steph and Klay would struggle with the physicality.
@@slipnorris5882
Dumars and Klay aren't even, Dumars was better, at defense, at clutch and he was more consistent, Klay sometimes disappears... although Klay is a better shooter and when he's hot sometimes I think he's a better shooter than Curry
OISEOZOJE OHIWEREI 4-11 all day. BAD BOYS would dominate those two! Though they are the best shooting back court of all time, I’ll take the gritty toughness of Zeek and Joe
K Clark Isiah was hardly even touched in this video, so idk why you’re discrediting Steph and Klay by that dumb point.