Why Model Trains Are MID.
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- #Trains #Railroads (3/9/24)
DISCLAIMER: don't take this seriously.
It's not everyday I find myself filming model trains, but today was a unique exception. I decided to tag along with a few close friends of mine to visit a local model train show, seeing many friendly people, unique models, and some pretty well-done layouts. However, despite the details and diversity surrounding me, I still will NOT be convinced to pursue this hobby when there's real trains running around. And I'm here to explain why.
God bless. I'll see you soon, out on the High Iron.
Romans 8:28
Don't know why my mic was muffling my voice this time around. Will monitor that for the next one.
Just another reminder that this is NOT a serious video, y'all can like something just like I can "dislike" it. 😂
The model train gods cursed you
*sad model train collector noises*
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Me
Sad broke railfan noises
Bro casually drops the fact he's cooking up a 2102 video and then says "Nah fam I'm gonna make you wait like I waited 3 hours at Folkston to see nothing"
Two reasons why I have model trains:
1. I can’t go trackside whenever I want. (No drivers license)
2. They were gifts.
@@EpicRails W reasons.
I like model trains because of the sheer amount of layouts and creativity one does with a layout. And the amount of custom models puts even the most priced model to shame
Not only is the money insane but the amount of time required to create even a half-decent layout is too much for a lot of people
Indeed even as n scaler I have issues with creativity
One other positive is that you can create derailments without getting arrested.
I like the way you think. 😂
I enjoy model trains more when looking at other people's layouts. When I look at my own I just feel bad knowing that I'll never have a layout as cool as clubs. Also the pricing is unbelievable.
Do things for your own enjoyment, that's a problem with your philosophy and not the hobby. For pretty much any of your endeavors in life there's gonna be people better at it then you, whether it's cause of money, talent, dedication, or a mix of them.
I have a lot of model trains because I enjoy buying and fixing old/broken ones.
Agreed it's fun
I’m going to start making the popcorn. Bro is about to cause the firestorm of the century.
It's begun, good sir. 😂
I'll politely disagree. I find them fun
@@KCDash4400cw To each their own, fam. Have fun with them. :)
4:12 “Where is the Girth!” LMAO!!!!! 🤣 🤣💀💀💀
I’m scared of what Nathan is about to say about model trains
For the prices, I'll disagree to some extent. The second hand market can get you some pretty sweet deals for equipment that is generally expensive
Y'all got plugs for mark down prices? That's cool. 😂😂
Can you find steam locomotives on the mainline? No.
Can you recreate the Name Trains? Yes.
Real.
I understand that model railroading isn't as hype worthy as the real deal!
However, as a artist. I love building, painting, and custom making things!
I feel that model railroading brings creativity to a commuity that has gone downhill for the past ten years! *Im looking at that 17 years old who derailed a BNSF*
So to me, model railroading isn't something you look at for hours, its something you made with skills and creative mind!
But that just me as someone who loves art!
@@weserman95 Love that take. Keep staying creative. :)
I think that the unpredictability of real trains is actually a positive. Yes, it can suck missing something cool that happens to come along, but when you do see/hear something unexpected on a normal mundane train that can brighten the mood of the day significantly. Best of all, the cost is handled by the railroad while you don't have to pay for anything (we're assuming you already have recording or photography equipment)
Bro these sound effects are wild💀
I prefer to be trackside but when I don't live near a railroad, the model train is all I have to fall back on. At least with a model train, I don't have to worry about the police harassing me for being near the train tracks.
Model trains: Good but pricy
Real trains *SUPERIOR* and FREE 🦅
I have been able to run five different trains in a day on a 4 x 8 layout by using different locomotives to rebuild strings of cars into new consists. Being able to do switching on my layout has made it more realistic and enjoyable.
PS I lived right next to Tilford for five years and also took CSX crews out to their trains and back home as well. Nothing like playing with the real thing!
(hears about the price factor, glances at his O gauge collection, zeroes in on his four, er five articulated steamers) < *THUD* > < _bruh!_ >
...oh yeah, they weigh about 20 pounds each
in all fairness, I was in the hobby 35+ years before I dropped that much dough on any one piece. Having a year-ish between announcement and delivery to save up helps.
7/10 rage bait
BENSENVILLE MENTIONED RAHHH WHAT THE FUCK IS BAD POWER RAHHHHHHH
Let me just email NS and ask them to put a main line in my backyard rq
4:00 just a fact but, it is possible to program doppler effects into sound decoders, Rapido does it all the time on its locomotives
Oh wow, that’s the first I’ve heard of that. That’s pretty cool.
I wholeheartedly agree with everything said in this video (I spent 1K on models just to realize I cannot afford a layout)
Bro bit the bait and realized he was on a fishing hook. 😂
(cartoon bully voice) Let's get him!
Opinion accepted. I like them as a novelty I see every once in a while but I don’t collect them
oh boys, we got em. -NinjaRailfan
This is so true. My favorite parts of trains is the sound of the locomotives and it just isn't the same as the whirring of a 12v DC motor and possibly a recording from a speaker.
Such a lovely experience trackside, isn't it? 😂
Some electric trains probably have models of them that sound pretty similar, especially with some older trains (and models) that were noisier
Can I be honest? I love model railroading but I completely agree with your take.
1. Modelers do not invest enough energy in enhancing the experience of the model. It's boring. There's very limited tin-can sounds, there's very few people who invest in immersion. I actually have talked with folks about building a proper doppler effect using a DSP module that audiophiles use to augment the sound signature of their speakers to their room shape. Same tech could make directional audio more approachable.
2. Most modelers aren't very realistic, for many reasons, but I think the real reason it irks you so much is the lack of COHESION. Like if you're going to have Godzilla on your layout, what's the lore behind it? Stick a castle with a dragon? Explain to me how 2 mile trains work with treasure-hoarding dragons in your universe. DnD campaigns dump 10 pages of exposition for a single pub, there's no reason model railroaders can't make sense of the weird shit on their layouts. If you have mixed engines, model something that explains how that happened. Really though, giant conglomerates like Disney are aimed at entertaining kids and they still put a ton of energy in explaining their lore to justify their illusions even to children.
3. Price is absolutely my biggest gripe for the entire modeling hobby. You have all these boomer geezers out there collecting entire rooms worth of trains and then turn around and wonder why nobody under 45 isn't into this hobby. The prices are just too high because of this hoarding and the endless pursuit of perfect details that only rivet counters give a crap about. They've nuked the entire budget-train market, which means nobody with student loans is gonna buy this stuff. I personally think that 3D printing is slowly changing this, because you now have the ability for people to print whatever they want, and then enjoy long train consists for pennies on the dollar exactly as they want them.
So yeah you are right. Model trains are mid, but I think they could be way better, and there's a path to that if this stuff was cheaper and we started having people who are into other modeling hobbies diving in and offering fresh takes into the hobby in general.
Glad we can find some common ground, brother. Keep enjoying your models. :)
I used to collect model trains myself, but now I play Trainz Railroad Simulator.
I do both
I do both too
Honestly I’m a fan of both, being at a modular railroad club we have different trains but real trains are cooler and you can actually feel a vibe that models aren’t able to provide, but a lot of these are valid reasons
One of my top reasons is cost and the fact some model manufacturers lack in doing the details right or even trying, some things aren’t meant to be made models.. or made to fit a specific range of models made
I’ve seen many models that lack detail and often are why I tend to wanna see real trains and only run my models at club events and at friends layouts
The cost is insane. You could be paying 1000 dollars for a five car consist just to go on a circular track with no scenery. 😭
I have to agree with you on the price like just to get the most basic HO scale SD40-2 with minimal detail is like $100 💀 and don't even get me started on Lionel
The Reverend's ghost: 👁👄👁
I just got rid of my layout and I can’t believe I’m saying that was one of the greatest decisions I ever made. I got so excited to start a new layout a few months ago because I got an opportunity to start making money, but even with my fairly high monthly rate, I STILL couldn’t afford even moderately good equipment. I hadn’t used the layout in weeks and now the spot is occupied by a nice big couch. Yeah random rant but figured I’d say that lol
@@piedmontrailfan81 I feel like the best way to do model railroading is with a club of people, because going solo is VERY economically difficult.
As a model railroader, I approve this message
me, who chooses to model using wood trains simply because I’d rather drop $35 on a locomotive than $350 (although I still prefer real railroading)
I’m a part of a model train club in Alger Wa
I find it quite fun there’s also wooden trains which I have a lot of and they are real replicas
Also the train show in Lynden Wa I attend every year seeing all the different types of trains on those layouts is cool
But as boring as the power can be in real life right now I will agree
Nothing beats the real thing
I respect your opinion
I'm glad we can agree to disagree, man. I ain't hate model trains, just like real trains more, but all power to you, fam. Take care. :)
I have one just to pass the time because my main line is dry most of the time
That’s fair, of course. I fortunately have the privilege of having some pretty active lines around me, so for me it’s just more worth it to actually go trackside.
As a model railroader myself, many of these are valid points, especially pricing; HO scale is thankfully a lot better than O though it is still quite expensive. Until someone figures out how to make realistic grab irons and other small parts that are not separately applied, I don't see the pricing coming down anytime soon unfortunately and it really sucks.
I got into model railroading for the reasons you mentioned in the video, to recreate trains you can't see anymore in real life. As you mentioned, the variety these days is all gone. It's all GEVO, more GEVO, C6M, CM44, and maybe an ACe occasionally, and to see any sort of EMD or ALCO you have to go and chase a local which impossible without a drivers license yet. I model roughly 1975-1999 with a primary focus on Conrail, and only 3.75 engines (NS 8098, MNCW 201, NJT 4208 starting October, and CSX 1976 is the 0.75 with the YN3 nose) are on the rails actively in Conrail blue which is less than the number of Conrail engines I own. But probably the most fun part for me is op sessions on the club since I don't plan on becoming a locomotive engineer or conductor myself which means I won't be able to run a local in real life and switch cars around. And we spend plenty of time talking about real trains there as well. I'd say I still like the thrill of real trains more but there's certain things you can't do with real ones that you can with models.
Just like on real railroads, it takes multiple people to run a fun model railroad. Doing anything solo isn't worth the time, effort, and money and is why many home layout-builders always invite others to operate. We're always bouncing facts and ideas off each other (especially since most of the club are railroad employees) and the barrier to entry in my opinion is too great if you're trying to do everything yourself.
Based assessment. Hope you keep having fun with your models, gang. 👍
Ah yes instead of buying model trains and tracks I will simply suck it up and build a real railroad in my basement instead.
Like a real man. 🫡🗣
I have fun creating layouts as cheaply as possible. I just made a 34"x26" n scale to see if it was possible. I spent $113 on it. I spend as little money as possible by buying used locomotives and cars on ebay and at hobby shops.
I genuinely enjoy the "art" of creating landscapes, its not necessarily about the trains. Im not THAT acoustic
Gotta say I’m impressed you did all that without having to sell your foot. 😂
They grind your gears.
So true though. When I think of model trains, I think of the past, and then I think of the present, and I'm like wtf is this?! In IRL, we got C6M's, ( Norfolk Southern has way too many of those ) ES44AC's, and I may get hated for this, but ACC's. Norfolk Southern could have just kept the SD70M's.
This is a bit off topic but hearing Minecraft music brings back hella memories. You earned a subscriber
Also as someone who owns a n scale layout I agree with some of your points lol
Minecraft music will be the key to world peace.
@@LocoProFr
It is only mid if you make it, also it depends on the scale
Also I have a layout but you are kinda right Not gonna lie
If you got a club of people pouring into a project, you can make some pretty amazing stuff. Going solo, however, is so difficult. 😭
Me watching this while working on my model layout😢😢
Very valid points. Especially about how damn expensive new stuff can be. But most model railroaders love the hobby because they love the actual process of modeling the environments. Or, like me, model railroaders just don't live close enough to tracks to see any trains and/or they like the engineering challenge of figuring out the wiring and track plan. This isn't meant to be a critique of the video, just another perspective. Great video overall. 👍
There's definitely an art to this hobby, for sure. When it's done well, it looks VERY cool. The problem is how hard it is for it to be done well. 😂
@@LocoPro Yeah, my first layout is just track, grass, and a poorly made hill. 😂
Awesome video
You do have a point
One thing you didn’t mention is ops. Model railroad operations are the fun of the hobby for me. Especially the puzzle-like environment of switching.
Another thing, excursion trains. Many only come out once a year (*ahem* UP) and can be very difficult to get to (especially when the nearest UP trackage is over 3 hours away). Models (although expensive) can be a way to get those excursions anytime you want (which was a point you put in your video).
Last point, creativity. Building scenery, benchwork, laying track, and wiring are all forms of creativity and many people enjoy just the building of the model railroad. For me, my favorite thing about the hobby is programming. I found a way to put multiple function maps in a single decoder and toggle them with any function button. It’s not always about the little trains, there’s other aspects to it.
*angry commenter noises*
I think when it gets really fun is if you have like a club or something of people all pouring into the same project. Solo gets so economically burdensome.
Ok. I see your point. I’m designing a switching layout (14x2) and even for its smaller size it’s taken ages with many setbacks. To me, it’s worth it. But to each their own.
3:57 you gotta use your imagination
Things I hate about model railroading is that you have to spend money to replace stuff when it breaks for no reason
Man, the money is actually insane.
@@LocoPro agreed
Treat and handle it nicely and it won’t break lmao
@@EvanKoglin my stuff is old, of what I own and most of it is used and sometimes sometimes it comes broken down
Alot of stuff can be repaired or maintained with the right knowledge and tools, depending on the brand and skill
610 mentioned? 🤯🤯
@@greenvilledistrictrailfans 610 mentioned. 🗣️
For sure 1:1 scale trains are more thrilling. You can recreate the feel a lash of EMDs getting a 150 car train going or standing near a diamond while trains bang across. I see you’re from the south but if you ever get to Ohio stand on the steps to Marion tower. Your feet from the diamond and everything shakes. But I do model because I can recreate lines that got pulled up and run power that became razor blades years ago.
@@ScottTaipaleRail Based. That’s one thing about model trains you can’t knock, for sure.
Excellent video, you've given me some good reasons that could save me from becoming broke in the future😂
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True man of culture knowing where that was. Sucks that sub is so diabolically dead.
I noticed all the unreleased footage like the buttons bluff clip cause they are spots I sit to watch trains 💀
I'ma be fr, it kinda is, and I have to work on IIR, WRT, MP, JC, and IR as my railroads on a layout, so it's kinda mid.
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I do both but I have N Scale. But I have always preferred the real thing.
The goat is back again
Honestly in my opinion, I think model trains are for old people because they have enough money saved and have nothing else to buy it with. And to be fair I haven't seen many young adults with model trains besides foxcraft (NO GLAZE). And I think real trains are for the young minds because who wouldn't be smart enough to tell you what train your riding in (Besides railfans and the train crew themselves). Don't worry loco. In 5 years ill be a conductor for Norfolk Southern and I plan on working on the Inman Yard to Florida line. The names Jamorie By the way. I want you to remember that name if your still in ATL railfanning inman yard in 5 years. Ill be just like that conductor at 9:18
Jamorie, I wish you the best of luck. 🫡
Hi
Hi there. :)
my guy can't go ONE video without saying something outta pocket
(girth???????????)
Don’t forget the tonnage.
@@LocoPro 😭❗️
When did ya go to Vicker, VA 3:47 ,Or Goodview VA 8:35 ? Nice foliage and scenery by the way.
I was in Roanoke this whole summer, so I spent quite a lot of time exploring the state. Absolutely beautiful spots, man.
@@LocoPro LOL 😂 I live in ROANOKE me and my freinds are have a BIG railfan meetup on August 10th in the morning, planned one big meet before we all go back to school and You are Invited Nathan it will be on the Amtrak station.
I'm back in Georgia now. 😭
You gon' love the Virginia series. Got at least 10-15 videos worth of footage.
@@LocoPro Take your time. I know I dont because I have so many vids myself 😂.
I mean I do like model trains but its really time consuming. The maintenance of the trains tracks and layout is... a lot to say the least.
@@TealGuy For sure. Hope you having fun, man.
@@LocoPro yeah im still re-setting up my layout and improving it since i moved
@@TealGuy W. Best of luck, big dawg.
@@LocoPro thanks bro 👍
9:10 are we not gonna talk about the guy putting something on the track seconde before the b820 came?
@@Official2116Creations Bro was looking goofy.
@@LocoPro more stupid than goofy.
There are of course railroad simulators. Which are very difficult to drop multiple thousands of dollars on. But those have their own problems *cough* *cough* [Southline District] *cough* *cough*
@@Rndmstff737 Man, with the way Dovetail prices their stuff, you could probably catch yourself dropping two bands on some stuff. 😂
True
1:44 so I'm assuming we get a video from Roanoke in the future? Because I know that exact bridge
3:10 there's a good idea for a video, the lost engines of Roanoke
@@trainboi777yall6 You’ll be having PLENTY of videos from Virginia. ;)
@@LocoPro well I'm betting I'll recognize some of the locations, since I'm from Virginia
Those shots were from Marvin Larkin right?
@@ConductorRicketts Yessuh. 😂
@@LocoPro Marvin’s my man! Great dude!
@@ConductorRicketts Very W mans, for real.
Oh lord bless my soul,
He’s got facts thi
3:36 sneak peek video: march 31st (Easter day), 2024, I know that cus I got that same UP engine
The way you predicting all my future dates is crazy. 😂
@@LocoPro im a time traveler
I think I agree with you on all of this based on my experience although I rarely ever railfan. I play train sim games more, but I'm also into international trains, mostly European ones. So what do you think of those? The three negatives: First, a vast majority of trains based on international designs don't run in North America, so you cannot see them in person unless you buy an expensive plane ticket. Second, the models (both past & present) aren't as popular as North American models in America, and the hobby shops/train stores that import them are far and few in between. Third, the models are either just as expensive or more expensive than North American models, depending on the company/brand. The positives: More diversity and some cool and unique conversation pieces. Also, they have more high speed trains than America and they can even look better than the original Acela. These are my two cents on literal foreign trains even though I like both North American and European ones so much.
Interesting point. I'm no stranger to train sims, used to play them a lot when I was younger. Definitely give you a digitized platform and much more easy creativity and diversity in terms of environments and models. Unfortunately, like you said, the real deal is expensive, but depending on how bad you want to see it could be worth it.
@@LocoPro I just thought of adding this on when I saw that castle on that one layout.
We back
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Hello Railfan.
What's up, bro?
Get your money up not your funny up🗣️🗣️
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Hello. :)
this video is mid
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@@the_toronto_vehicle_fan Shedding tears. 😭
Nuh uh, model trains are better
@@AroundTheWorldRailfan Wow, really appreciate that, man. :)
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