MARSS REACTS TO "Why NO ONE Plays: Zero Suit Samus Anymore"

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  • Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
  • Vars III is back with another banger - because he's talking about the best worst character in the game! See how the best Zero Suit Samus player of all time thinks about why this once beloved character is now one of the most forgotten in the meta.
    Original Video: • Why NO ONE Plays: Zero...
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    Super Smash Bros. Ultimate on the Nintendo Switch brings together everyone’s favorite Nintendo characters such as Mario (Super Mario Bros.), Link (The Legend of Zelda), Samus (Metroid), and Pikachu (Pokemon) in one of the most popular fighting games ever made! The series is further set apart by including a selection of 3rd party video game characters from different franchises such as Persona’s Joker, Street Fighter’s Ryu, Final Fantasy VII’s Cloud and Sephiroth, and Sega’s Sonic The Hedgehog. Most recently the game has been updated to Version 13.0 where Square Enix’s Sora from Kingdom Hearts has been added as DLC to the game!
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Комментарии • 94

  • @VarsVerum
    @VarsVerum Год назад +945

    Took you long enough Marss lol. Also why do you keep saying "Vars the third" 😂

  • @bnbronstein
    @bnbronstein Год назад +164

    Definitely Marss' fault getting ZSS nerfed when he beat Leo at genesis

    • @omegalilbchass8270
      @omegalilbchass8270 Год назад +13

      Yet leo dominating almost every tournament for years couldnt get joker seriously nerfed. Seems legit

  • @CameramanI88
    @CameramanI88 Год назад +98

    3:04 I remember seeing this moment of this set and thinking like…I know Dark Wizzy is a top player and all, but even I know get up attack is the single worst option you could have done in this situation no matter what considerations you make

    • @CrimsonStrider
      @CrimsonStrider Год назад +25

      he probably pressed up b twice and it made a buffered get up attack

    • @N12015
      @N12015 Год назад +4

      And for details like this is that Kurama is the new best Mario player.

    • @2FadeMusic
      @2FadeMusic Год назад +1

      @Fernando Vasquez kurama just has a wayyyy better punish, dark wizzy never pushed marios punishgame much he just had good neutral

    • @DrSwazz
      @DrSwazz Год назад +1

      @@2FadeMusic Kurama has optimized tf out of Mario's punish game. Dude also has crazy survivability.

  • @Kowjja
    @Kowjja Год назад +69

    It's crazy they didn't at least *fix* her to compensate her nerfs
    none of her multi-hits are truly consistent, some can be consistently SDI'd (rip up smash)

    • @MerryBlind
      @MerryBlind Год назад +2

      True that; some nerfs to top tiers were at least accompanied by some minor buffs such as Palutena or Wario. Or some top tiers still got some multi-hit fixes without much else such as Fox.

    • @Parthian6
      @Parthian6 Год назад +1

      ​@@MerryBlind Yeah im really glad my win condition got gutted in exchange for a frame-perfect jablock setup. ZSS mains cry so much over some extra frames on up b while we got nerfed so hard that out of the ten or so top level Wario mains/secondaries only one still plays the character in any capacity.

    • @MerryBlind
      @MerryBlind Год назад

      @@Parthian6 I never said the minor buffs made up for the major nerfs. I just meant Wario at least got something instead of nothing.

    • @Parthian6
      @Parthian6 Год назад +2

      @@MerryBlind My point still stands that ZSS mains complain too much over nerfs that could've been much worse. If Marss didn't stop competing as much to focus on content creation nobody would be saying ZSS fell off.

    • @MerryBlind
      @MerryBlind Год назад

      @@Parthian6 Ah yes I do agree on that. The impact the nerfs had seems overblown to me as well, but I don’t play ZSS at all so I can’t tell for sure.

  • @dvdmoreno2010
    @dvdmoreno2010 Год назад +34

    Marss isn't even paying attention to the voice over, only to his own gameplay 😂

    • @N12015
      @N12015 Год назад +3

      Why can't I pretend I'm surprised? ZSS used to be top tier, but honestly now it feels like a low high tier to high mid tier like Ness, Sheik or Mii Brawler because she's lacking the consistency she used to have.

  • @instant7856
    @instant7856 Год назад +120

    Think he included Mario in the Hybrid purely due to the Ladder Combos

    • @2000Doriyas
      @2000Doriyas Год назад +9

      Doesn’t make sense when hers is more similar to Falcon

    • @instant7856
      @instant7856 Год назад +26

      @@2000Doriyas Kinda true but I see where he came from. In Sm4sh the 2 op ladder characters were also mario and zss

    • @N12015
      @N12015 Год назад +4

      @@instant7856 And the Umbra witch as well.

    • @instant7856
      @instant7856 Год назад

      @@N12015 Yea...

    • @salvatore_slate
      @salvatore_slate 6 месяцев назад +1

      i think it's Mario landing up air fair = ZSS landing nair flip kick

  • @user-dy9nr9yg4o
    @user-dy9nr9yg4o Год назад +10

    4:54 I watched that set live because it was epic and the amount of people who said Kola was robbed is baffling. That up smash interaction happened twice the second time being that. Marss running into Kola’s shield and not getting the Up-B. That evens it all out. Marss won that set.

  • @Mangoscats
    @Mangoscats Год назад +37

    Now it makes sense that pikachu was never nerfed. The Japanese think pika is like mid high tier rather than the top 3 rat he is

    • @MerryBlind
      @MerryBlind Год назад +9

      Or they’ve just been right all along and Pikachu is just overrated in the West.

    • @N12015
      @N12015 Год назад +7

      @@MerryBlind I mean, Pikachu's performance is more akin to Inkling than a R.O.B, with most top players dropping him due to being way too prediction reliant.
      That's the problem with Pikachu, it has overtuned numbers but is unable to cover everything in any situation, like a Cloud's Back air on ledge, a R.O.B's down tilt on close quarters, a Grenade on combos or a Mario Up air in landing. Pikachu just lacks the cheat factor that other high and top tiers have.

    • @neurobadger2291
      @neurobadger2291 Год назад +5

      The west STILL thinking Pika is top 3 is another reason why Japanese players are just straight up more reasonable. The west is on some weird ESAM propaganda. Pika is literally not that hard to beat, the rat statistically loses to the majority of its tournament matchups than what MU charts and tier lists claim, often very disproportionately in some cases. Ultimate Pika might be the most overated character I have seen in any smash game.

  • @RayBcv1030
    @RayBcv1030 Год назад +21

    Japanese players ruined her ):
    Also you should watch Shion play Acola. That set was amazing.

  • @steve-ok2090
    @steve-ok2090 Год назад +18

    Honestly the biggest reason I stopped going to locals was the Zss nerf. For exactly the same reason Vars mentioned and Marss affirmed: her power was not redistributed throughout her kit like other characters, it was just completely taken away. And since I was a solo Zss main, I just lost interest in the game. I still am sad about it. A small part of me hopes that the Steve glitch compels Nintendo to patch the game, and while they’re at it, maybe revert some of her nerfs to return her back top tier viability.

    • @SpeedfreakUK
      @SpeedfreakUK 9 месяцев назад +3

      Or you could just…be happy playing a character that isn’t top tier. Unless Leo goes to your local it shouldn’t matter that much.

  • @cameronpower7814
    @cameronpower7814 Год назад +60

    Cause she’s buns, easy

  • @laffy7204
    @laffy7204 Год назад +5

    ZSS can't combo from throw
    Joker can combo from throw, Shiek can combo from throw, Mario can combo from throw, Greninja can combo from throw
    Wolf can combo from throw
    No mention of this

  • @beansfebreeze
    @beansfebreeze Год назад +12

    Is that why we never got duck hunt buffs?? Was Japan telling Nintendo to keep raito in check??

    • @alexnoren6141
      @alexnoren6141 Год назад +3

      Duck hunt is fine if he was any more buff that character would be so obnoxious

    • @beansfebreeze
      @beansfebreeze Год назад

      @@alexnoren6141 nah dhd is absolute beans and deserved better

  • @JadeZombie_ssbu
    @JadeZombie_ssbu Год назад +6

    Because marss out styled them out of existence

  • @fim_gaming
    @fim_gaming Год назад +1

    Been waiting for this reaction video ever since the Vars one came out

  • @saika1615
    @saika1615 Год назад +3

    I'm unsure what the dev's goal was to make a mid tier even more of a mid tier. Like not even giving her the d-throw combo throw as a means of compensation? They were SMOKING

  • @rottentomatoplays
    @rottentomatoplays Год назад +5

    Had they reduced her standing grab by two frames and having less knockback on down throw i think it would have outweighed the nerfs enough to keep her relevant.

    • @zake64
      @zake64 Год назад +2

      There really was no reason to nerf her nair and up b like they did though. Just gutted her neutral and OOS for no reason

    • @rottentomatoplays
      @rottentomatoplays Год назад +5

      @@zake64 the number of times that people fall out of Up B oos is enough to realize they didn't actually test the nerfs fully. It must be about 40 percent of the time or so realistically

  • @11_turtles
    @11_turtles Год назад +3

    They should do doubles. Kuro & Choco vs Marss & Sharp

  • @CommanderWaterSoul
    @CommanderWaterSoul Год назад +2

    3:54 Heard it here folks: Marss is the peak of ZSS. Listen to his opinions on the character and trust in them.

  • @ash1yn
    @ash1yn 9 месяцев назад

    I love how marss just watches the background gameplay instead of paying attention lol

  • @sambushguy
    @sambushguy Год назад +1

    Marss I am very upset there has been no monke monday.

  • @KLRCAT
    @KLRCAT 8 месяцев назад

    5:00 - Looking at the Tier List is hilarious, I basically only use low tier characters.
    S - Roy (My 3rd)
    B- - Link (My 2nd)
    C+ - Robin (My 5th)
    C- - Ike (My Main)
    D+ - Zelda (My 4th, and was my main for a while)
    D+ - King DeDeDe (my Troll/Spam pick if I want to piss everyone off)
    In terms of each game, my mains were as follows;
    Smash 64 - Link
    Melee - Link (Marth & Roy)
    Brawl - Ike (Link & Zelda)
    Smash Wii U - Skipped/never had console.
    Ultimate - Ike (Link & Zelda)

  • @cylver3593
    @cylver3593 Год назад +1

    I would just be happy if they made her moves a little less precise. Sometimes it feels like the hitboxes don't match the attacks.

  • @princessluna8411
    @princessluna8411 Год назад +1

    on the whole why they buff/nerf its the same for splatoon they mainly only listen to the jp crowd and ignore NA/EU like i get its big over there but still frustrating no one else really gets a say on the future of either of these games

    • @soveliss42
      @soveliss42 Год назад +2

      it's kinda funny cuz splatoon is the only first party nintendo game that sells more copies in japan than the rest of the world combined (see splatoon 3 in nintendo's recent annual earnings report)
      like their scene is just bigger & on average higher level than the west, so there might be an argument to be made in favor of how they balance it
      it's less true for smash - although the scene might be more concentrated in jp, there's greater parity
      but the similarities between smash and splatoon, with the west having a more aggressive style & less successful off the wall picks compared to japan, and then nintendo at least appearing to lean heavily on jp for balance changes, is pretty striking

  • @wlt3585
    @wlt3585 Год назад

    Whats the music at the end? Ive heard it often but not sure the name

  • @Typ3_alpha
    @Typ3_alpha Год назад +1

    They just took and took and took from palu too brother. we got nothing but nerfs

    • @williamberry3596
      @williamberry3596 Год назад

      She already has nair simulator, people were fed up with always losing to her. I think the nerfs were justified, it kinda helped provide an overall better player experience for those who faced palu.

  • @MasterAbeer101
    @MasterAbeer101 Год назад

    This was inevitable lmao

  • @ihopeyouandicanbefriends
    @ihopeyouandicanbefriends 8 месяцев назад

    love varss love marss vibin

  • @dripfoe_3307
    @dripfoe_3307 Год назад +7

    Yeah Vars is pretty off the mark more often than not. His calm soothing voice just gets ppl to listen and not disagree harshly.

    • @chignonn
      @chignonn Год назад +17

      I don’t think people view his content mostly for his voice. Think this opinion is off the mark here.

    • @N12015
      @N12015 Год назад +2

      @@chignonn And he can be way off the mark, like when he said you can trust a community to not cheat or when he said it was desirable that a big corporation doesn't care about game modes.

  • @hakirayleigh
    @hakirayleigh Год назад +2

    Japan always getting the blame for nerfing characters. Maybe the only one for west was Mkleo Joker.

    • @justice8718
      @justice8718 Год назад

      Honestly, I think MKleo, Cosmos, and Sparg0 were the guys that got Nintendo to buff Byleth, Corrin, and Cloud simply because of the janky performances of their initial states.

  • @AkonuGaming
    @AkonuGaming Год назад +1

    Let's be honest, we all saw this coming

  • @dubudub876
    @dubudub876 Год назад

    yeeeeeeeeeee boi i saw this coming a mile away

  • @awshitcuz7064
    @awshitcuz7064 Год назад

    Ike buffs = his up b and jab drops >:D

  • @Si_Iencio
    @Si_Iencio Год назад +14

    Why play zss when you can just play a better game

  • @eddie992
    @eddie992 Год назад +3

    Why’d they nerf zss so hard

    • @orangeslash1667
      @orangeslash1667 10 месяцев назад

      Because she’s basically sonic, with more range to make up for being slightly slower. She is very similar to sonic that she can easily run away from the opponent. She may not be as campy as sonic but she’s still pretty annoying.

    • @eddie992
      @eddie992 10 месяцев назад +5

      @@orangeslash1667 ain’t no way you said zss is basically sonic 💀

    • @orangeslash1667
      @orangeslash1667 10 месяцев назад

      @@eddie992 Well their both light weight characters with very good mobility.
      Another reason is that now that we have Ridley, ZSS needs to be less powerful to make room for him.
      Kinda like how Diddy Kong was slightly nerfed Ultimate, which makes since we have K Rool.

    • @eddie992
      @eddie992 10 месяцев назад

      @@orangeslash1667 ur funny man

  • @JSoul
    @JSoul Год назад

    Marss moment

  • @mewpsy1000
    @mewpsy1000 7 месяцев назад

    So sad that they ruined this character. Some of the coolest design wise.

  • @Amaling
    @Amaling Год назад

    ZSS is probably the hardest nerfed character in ult besides Pichu

  • @MeowModeFGC
    @MeowModeFGC Год назад +1

    5:05 Hang on… A content creator at number 38??? Someone stop this man.

  • @Ridlay_
    @Ridlay_ Год назад

    If Marss made the vid it would literally just be “ZSS sucks” of course :)

  • @friends4evrr
    @friends4evrr Год назад

    That RUclipsr could’ve just asked a couple of top zss and The top zss aka marss. You can clearly see that mars disagrees with some points, from viewers perspective they may think that he’s a pro or top but he’s just a content creator. Small and big ones

  • @Lone.Light.Studios
    @Lone.Light.Studios Год назад

    i’m a ZSS main😢

  • @alocav7563
    @alocav7563 Год назад +1

    Zamn

  • @sonnycollins9285
    @sonnycollins9285 Год назад +1

    Noti gang

  • @mrgrimrjs
    @mrgrimrjs Год назад

    Doesn't agree with him, doesn't agree with him. He compliments Marss. Suddenly "he's spittin"

  • @luigistargamer8121
    @luigistargamer8121 Год назад

    Hiya ❤

  • @Vahlee-A
    @Vahlee-A 6 месяцев назад +1

    If ZZS sucks so much, why do you keep playing as her?!

  • @mzubuki
    @mzubuki Год назад +1

    Listen to Jesus, for he is the way to truth to abundant life. Don't turn your back on love, and love is a kindness(: to preserve and help) that never lies to you. He delights in those that trust him, respect him, and hope In his mercy.

  • @luisreyes1963
    @luisreyes1963 11 месяцев назад

    ZSS doesn't suck. Minecraft Steve SUCKS. 😡

  • @austinrocks3901
    @austinrocks3901 Год назад

    Cuz she SUX... duUUuuhh :')