Pro Player Reviews the FANCIEST ZSS Guide on YouTube

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  • Опубликовано: 2 авг 2022
  • I know a thing or two about ZSS, but do OTHERS? That's what I've set out to solve today, by reviewing IZAW's ZSS Guide. Is it accurate? Is it outdated? DOES ZSS STILL SUCK? (The answer to that last question is obviously yes.)
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Комментарии • 125

  • @ZacharyJ961
    @ZacharyJ961 2 года назад +171

    All I'm hearing is we need a marss zss guide

  • @alexhooper6625
    @alexhooper6625 2 года назад +153

    Izaw is like, the GOAT for "new character" guide, for the average player. He's got enough of a grasp on the game and it's mechanics to know every character's strengths and weaknesses, even if he doesn't play each one at a top tier level. His Link is his strongest character for sure, but the man can really pick up whoever he wants at this point and beat any non-tournament level player. And when I say "tournament level" I don't mean Random Steve #678 that made it to top 64 by playing Steve or Aegis, I mean lower level regional bracket players.

  • @kiwimonifa3200
    @kiwimonifa3200 2 года назад +49

    dude's guide is actually good. I get why Marss has to critique some things for competitive play and appearance reasons, but it is an informative and clean guide for newer/mid/more experienced players.

    • @JacobBush16
      @JacobBush16 Год назад +6

      100%. His target audience isn’t the best player of a character. It’s people trying to learn a character. Marss and his chat don’t seem to get that.

    • @zukodean285
      @zukodean285 4 месяца назад +1

      Yeah mars will play the cringe “haha zaps bad” even though I’m really fuckibg good with him trope.

  • @anonymous7024
    @anonymous7024 2 года назад +26

    5:19 “Put me against these vegetables, bro”
    Jeez that was harsh. *Eats a carrot*

  • @adamyohan
    @adamyohan 2 года назад +335

    I think "the fanciest zss guide" trophy EASILY goes to Stawbs Orio. His videos are clean.

  • @OneLazyBoi
    @OneLazyBoi 2 года назад +148

    Izaw has pretty good videos if your trying to get into a new character

    • @ngotemna8875
      @ngotemna8875 2 года назад +18

      Agreed
      I think he provides valuable information on what a character's strengths and weaknesses are.
      I never considered him to be a combo guide, so I am not surprised that the combos he mentioned are a bit outdated and not necessarily true

    • @Clarkbardoone
      @Clarkbardoone 2 года назад +10

      @@ngotemna8875 I very much agree. he is very good for learning a characters neutral, win condition, advantage, and specifics/set play of the character but fails in explaining execution or routing.

    • @SleepyFawn
      @SleepyFawn 2 года назад +1

      I was curious about Yoshi, and his video showed me things that made yoshi look like a top 10 character. Options and applications I'd never even considered. Amazing info!

    • @lyxertt
      @lyxertt 2 года назад +1

      You're *

    • @ngotemna8875
      @ngotemna8875 2 года назад +1

      @@Clarkbardoone My Marth improved tremendously, just because of the basics I learned from his video.
      It's the small things like doing sideB like this: side, side, down, side
      Instead of: side, side, side, [wait], side.
      Way more consistent, way easier because you do not have to wait depending on how much damage the enemy has.

  • @marissaparadis9566
    @marissaparadis9566 2 года назад +41

    Izaw does go to tournaments in montreal, he's current ranked 10th on the pr (if that's the link I'm thinking of)

    • @ngotemna8875
      @ngotemna8875 2 года назад +6

      @@StealthKey He mainly plays Ike for training sessions because he's such a very basic character

  • @luke8324
    @luke8324 2 года назад +36

    Marss: 7:02 - don't down b out of combos.
    Also Marss: 10:30 😅

    • @yamsang0__0
      @yamsang0__0 2 года назад

      That wasn’t even hitstun bro

    • @Pato-ci3tb
      @Pato-ci3tb 2 года назад +2

      @@yamsang0__0 ??? How was that not hitsun

    • @Pato-ci3tb
      @Pato-ci3tb 2 года назад

      To be fair he also said he probably should have died there

    • @luke8324
      @luke8324 2 года назад

      Found the timestamp and modified the comment to suit.
      Having said that, I'm not sure what you mean? He had just got hit by up-tilt, and used down-b on pretty much the first actionable frame, i.e. "out of" hitstun.

    • @luke8324
      @luke8324 2 года назад

      @@Pato-ci3tb Haha yeah I just thought it was classic Marss: "do as I say, not as I do".

  • @robsquare2622
    @robsquare2622 2 года назад +58

    I try not to mald at Steve but not having a sour spot on the handle of tools feels fucking insane with how strong and huge they are.

    • @Jackpauler4lyfe
      @Jackpauler4lyfe 2 года назад +11

      Well with how they designed him, it’d probably be worse if there was a sour spot there. Diamond axe sourspot combo into upsmash on short characters for infinity percent 💀

    • @Electro4890
      @Electro4890 2 года назад

      Why mention steve? Fck that guy bro

    • @KevSB07
      @KevSB07 Год назад +3

      I just think the power levels of the materials are ridiculous. Why does Diamond up air do 11% it literally combos better than Meta Knight upair, which does 5 (or 2% if staled)

    • @idkwhattoputhere871
      @idkwhattoputhere871 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@KevSB07imean its pretty difficult to get diamonf

    • @KevSB07
      @KevSB07 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@idkwhattoputhere871 is it though? Steve is capable of stacking diamonds by constant mining, it’s far from reasonable for him to be that powerful.
      Besides, my argument holds with wooden upair, which does 8 on its own, which is still more than any other upair combo character (ZSS, Mythra, MK, Mario, Falcon, etc)

  • @TheSloppyMcfloppy
    @TheSloppyMcfloppy 2 года назад +190

    The guide proves why she’s mid. Glad Marss picked up Joker, who has moves that work.

    • @benjaminwalker9369
      @benjaminwalker9369 2 года назад +5

      yeah the forward air connecting must be surprise for marss

    • @Mars-pw4iw
      @Mars-pw4iw 2 года назад +4

      You'd be surprised how often it fails but it's nothing to the level of zss fair

    • @eragon78
      @eragon78 Год назад +1

      @@Mars-pw4iw Basically every multihit in the game is leaky af. I get people meme on it with ZSS, but they forget that its just true of like every character lol.
      Ultimate is the game where moves just dont work sometimes.

  • @Matpit18
    @Matpit18 2 года назад +16

    Fanciest guide is a weird way to say “The Best Guide I’ve ever reviewed on my channel”

  • @StretchDub
    @StretchDub 2 года назад +5

    Marss is gonna be dropping a ZSS guide at 150k subs.... He reviewed this guide as a tease

  • @miibrawler
    @miibrawler 2 года назад +42

    I feel that it’s only a matter of time before marss tries brawler cause he’s a similar character, especially with helikick.

    • @rayless
      @rayless 2 года назад +1

      He said he might on Panda's yt, but i think he was joking

    • @ngotemna8875
      @ngotemna8875 2 года назад +8

      Enter Esam:
      "Mii Brawler? Busted!"

  • @s.l.e.e.p.y.h.e.a.d
    @s.l.e.e.p.y.h.e.a.d 2 года назад +5

    Time to make your own guide king

  • @nintendope8837
    @nintendope8837 2 года назад +32

    Marss is gonna make sure he picks this thing apart lol

  • @crazykid1325
    @crazykid1325 2 года назад +16

    Izaw has the most optimal voice for guides it’s so relaxing

  • @ohianaw
    @ohianaw 2 года назад +1

    I love how Marss face on the thumbnail is exactly what he feels about the trash girl

  • @erasmus4743
    @erasmus4743 2 года назад

    Big Izaw fan. He makes really good videos. Glad you reviewed it!

  • @enchiladaofdeath
    @enchiladaofdeath 2 года назад +2

    Izaw makes fantastic videos and guides

  • @Hihello13919
    @Hihello13919 2 года назад

    Almost 150k subs LETS GOOOO

  • @SalMender351
    @SalMender351 2 года назад +7

    Better than Choctopus's guides thats for sure

  • @jarrid1220
    @jarrid1220 2 года назад

    That ending had me cracking up

  • @Han5073
    @Han5073 2 года назад +3

    I swear in a video marss said that he had a ZSS guide filmed and everything he just needed to write the script and film the video...

  • @TheAAJYu
    @TheAAJYu Год назад +1

    It’s funny you mention how you mentioned you would go over each character’s moves and their use cases in your hypothetical tutorial, because that was exactly what Izaw did in his Smash 4 character tutorials. He only switched to the current format in early Ultimate.

  • @Axel-wo6qu
    @Axel-wo6qu 2 года назад

    I swear when watching you Marss, more moves you hit combo into Arial boost kick than I can count, and nobody talks about it.

  • @Hachijo3GS
    @Hachijo3GS Год назад

    Let’s get a ZSS guide from Marss now 😁

  • @legendavey5930
    @legendavey5930 2 года назад +1

    Let’s get a review of Orio’s vids! I def learned the most from him

  • @yaboku444
    @yaboku444 2 года назад

    Sparta’s zss goes crazy af !! He’s been a main for 14 years

  • @adamdornoff764
    @adamdornoff764 Год назад

    Watching this post Genisis 9 and I am pretty sure I saw Marss try and nair 3 times in a row. And it almost worked lol

  • @Silverwind_23
    @Silverwind_23 2 года назад +1

    STAWBs Orio has the true zss guide

  • @lancelee338
    @lancelee338 2 года назад +1

    I've been thinking about how a lot of ZSS's kit translates over to Joker
    Poking with zair is similar to Gun, plus Joker gets yeeha
    ZSS landing nair and Joker landing fair 1 are both pseudo-safe options against shield but lead to big combos/kills
    ZSS's dashes are better, but Joker runs really low to the ground. Both are high mobility characters
    Flipjump and down Gun in disadvantage do very different things, but are still uniquely good disadvantage tools
    But Joker doesn't sux
    This hit me when I saw Marss at Summit tech chasing with f smash. It seems unconventional but after thinking about it more, it's probably a carry-over of him tech chasing with ZSS d smash

  • @IsaiahCelloBrown
    @IsaiahCelloBrown 2 года назад

    "I don't deserve this." 😂🤣😂😭😭

  • @hankhill6850
    @hankhill6850 2 года назад

    nah marss can't make fun of a zss guide, AND NOT HAVE HIS OWN ZSS GUIDE

  • @aezito9516
    @aezito9516 2 года назад

    Marss:
    NEVER FLIP-JUMP OUT OF COMBOS
    Also Marss:
    10:31

  • @TheEmeraldTyrant
    @TheEmeraldTyrant 2 года назад

    Spartazss the cleanest zss i know and that will never change

  • @ryan_raus
    @ryan_raus 2 года назад +1

    Also to be fair, a lot of people watching these guides are people who need them more, not top players

  • @CrimsonStrider
    @CrimsonStrider Год назад

    ZSS reminds me of Marth, except when you miss a tipper you get punished severely or SD.

  • @tristenherron1273
    @tristenherron1273 2 года назад +1

    I haven't heard that name since Smash 4 lmaooo

  • @nintendope8837
    @nintendope8837 2 года назад +1

    This I gonna be good

  • @aseulgi4659
    @aseulgi4659 2 года назад

    Me: Wait. ZSS Sux wasn’t a joke?
    Marrs: It never was.

  • @ItBeHowItBe47
    @ItBeHowItBe47 2 года назад

    Just wait til he sees Izaw’s Steve video

  • @Yharic
    @Yharic 2 года назад

    3:52 any orphan viewers probably laughing rn

  • @ryanleblue1209
    @ryanleblue1209 2 года назад

    He needs to react to ddee vs Jake or mkleo vs dabuz next

  • @unapologeticasshat9214
    @unapologeticasshat9214 2 года назад

    I wonder if we could get IZAW to update his guides in 2022 now that the games not gonna be patched anymore and its had time to develop. Probably not since thats like what...80 chars? It's a thought tho.

  • @Obibetter
    @Obibetter 2 года назад

    Izaw does go to locals here in Montreal Quebec Canada

  • @jordanyzapata1878
    @jordanyzapata1878 2 года назад +17

    When the best player of a certain character in the game says she sucks then id be inclined to think ZSS sucks just me tho

    • @Clarkbardoone
      @Clarkbardoone 2 года назад +8

      To be fair, marss in an exception because you should never believe anything he says ever. It just so happens that he’s the best zss.

  • @arrw1994ify
    @arrw1994ify 2 года назад

    We've already seen this 🤔

  • @user-uy4ot4ij3y
    @user-uy4ot4ij3y 2 года назад +1

    Can you react to mkleo joker vs dabuz

  • @camelotsr54
    @camelotsr54 2 года назад

    It all comes back to Steve

  • @AshenDemon
    @AshenDemon 2 года назад +3

    Ah yes I've gotten a hard read on my opponent at 100%
    *GUESS I GET 12%*
    ZSS in a nutshell.

  • @nintendope8837
    @nintendope8837 2 года назад +3

    That's my thing you can't take- Marss

  • @dmandamen6719
    @dmandamen6719 2 года назад

    So many of her old combos were killed by the nerds

  • @E7636
    @E7636 2 года назад +4

    Hey look it's the guy that said Steve might be the worst in the game

  • @JacobBush16
    @JacobBush16 Год назад +1

    So Marss reviews a guide targeted at people picking up a character with the mindset like Izaw is trying to teach a top player to play their character. Sure. Sure man.

  • @-Carne-Asada-
    @-Carne-Asada- 2 года назад +1

    He sounds more disappointed in ZSS not being viable anymore than the guide.

  • @slapstick2199
    @slapstick2199 2 года назад +3

    This was more marss complaining about ZSS than him complaining about the guide

  • @bionicallyacomputer292
    @bionicallyacomputer292 2 года назад

    yessir finally

  • @justinkeeler6929
    @justinkeeler6929 Год назад

    I like how at the beginning of the video he's pretending not to know Izaw.... when he has 100k less subs than Izaw xD

  • @gizmodziej
    @gizmodziej 2 года назад

    Mate, make a guide and i will subscribe!

  • @tamaya6680
    @tamaya6680 2 года назад

    LESSDOGOOO

  • @setterkai18
    @setterkai18 2 года назад

    Lesgoo

  • @sublimefan1041
    @sublimefan1041 2 года назад +2

    ZSS Guide: "I think the only thing's he's explained is how to do combos and general gameplans" weird lol

  • @SineFineInanis
    @SineFineInanis 2 года назад +6

    Just make your own ZSS guide

  • @ShionfromYT
    @ShionfromYT 2 года назад

    ZSS is best girl

  • @matthewgreenewald9219
    @matthewgreenewald9219 2 года назад +4

    Orio is way better zss guide

  • @tibisan3503
    @tibisan3503 2 года назад

    ofc getting f***ed by yet another random Steve, now I’m traumatized and regret watching this

  • @astralphenix6117
    @astralphenix6117 2 года назад

    React to art of dk

  • @nonplayercharacter12333
    @nonplayercharacter12333 2 года назад +1

    I learned four things this video.
    ZSS gameplay is all reads
    ZSS sux
    Don't pick her ever
    Steve is cringe

  • @markmorales7493
    @markmorales7493 2 года назад

    Didn’t you lose a FT10 to him?

  • @gabeg.9725
    @gabeg.9725 2 года назад

    can you react to the history of smash vid by Bananaboy ssb (unfortunately he's a yoshi main)

  • @shanehill6329
    @shanehill6329 2 года назад

    E

  • @lockevalentine997
    @lockevalentine997 2 года назад

    Isn't this the guy who has the really shit Steve take?

  • @VenerateTC
    @VenerateTC 2 года назад

    Pp

  • @chase3514
    @chase3514 Год назад

    What this guy is saying is be boring and obnoxious like every zss I play DK, I’m hype