This theory is exactly what I first thought of when I saw anakin in the world between worlds It’s the one that makes the most sense I feel like the world between worlds is like “the cannon” And anakin, and maybe even ahsoka at the end of the season will be protectors of the world between worlds and therefore protectors of “the cannon” I realllly hope one of the bad guys goes in there and we see a battle that goes between different crucial points in Star Wars history
grogu is gonna beat up stupid demon ghost anakin. just watch . his armor cant be penetrated by force ghost lightsabers. may the prosper be with you dumb human muggles!
Maul definetely fits more as a replacement for the son Ashoka and Maul alike were thought the ways of the forc by prodigies - Anakin and the order - the light side and Sidious - the dark side. Both of them were abandoned/cast out and had to find their way. Both of them fought against each other and both of them worked together. Both of them developed a character of their own and grew to understand the force. Maul always seems for me like he was really in touch with his dark side, same as Ashoka was with the light. But both of them were balanced in their side of the force. Ashoka was definitely a follower of the light but she was never blinded by the light, same as maul was a follower of the dark and wasn't blinded by the dark. Both had deeper connection with the force. Both weren't afraid to understand it and see it for what it really is
@@amirrezza-b5v Is that a requirement? My thought was that Mortis is the will of the force. The gods serve to balance it. I don't think it's an Anakin Skywalker support group. If he ends up at Mortis or the world between worlds after death, he's just simply a god now.
Makes sense. Anakin is as much vader as vader is anakin. He embodies the wild nature of the force. He began in the center, moved towards the light. In the beginning of the clone wars He began to succumb to the dark until it consumed him completely. And finally from a new hope into the end of rise of the jedi, he would begin to feel the pull to the light, till he was able to find balance within himself and defeat sidious to save his son.
THE FATHER deemed Anakin the Chosen One. Tested, proven, it was never Anakin's choice except for the fact he chose his version of the "daughter" when he used the life force of the daughter to save Asokha. I mean come on the Father has a boy and a girl probably twins and the chosen one has twins a boy and a girl.
But the daughters extension follows Ahsoka. Not Leia. Leia had force abilities but never really used them (in canon). Luke became the next Yoda like in episode 5. A Master Hermit. There's no way Luke knew the world between worlds or that deep into the force like Ahsoka and Anakin. While Luke was powerful and brought balance. Anakins death cemented his position as the new father of the force.
Luke and Leia can't be depictions of the Son and the Daughter. Neither are dark, so they wouldn't fit the mantle of the Son. Ahsoka is already canonically connected to the Daughter. The Son could be anyone, but if we're going with the theme here and the relationships of the original Mortis gods, Galen Marek makes too much sense. He and Ahsoka were basically Anakin's children, one light and one dark, before Anakin/Vader knew about his actual children. But Galen's not canon as of now, which is the issue. If they did decide to take this route with the story though and suggest Anakin and Ahsoka are the Father and Daughter, he's really the only person who would make sense as the Son. The other thing to consider though is that the Daughter and the Father "passed on." Their physical bodies disappeared and became one with the Force. The Son's didn't because he represents darkness, and he didn't have that ability. So it's also quite possible that the Son is actually dead, even if the other two aren't.
@@AidanShourds She used them several times. It's implied she was better at being a Jedi than Luke was, and that's not just in the sequels. Ahsoka still has plenty of time to influence Leia, and Luke did technically embrace the dark when he tried murderizing Palpatine. Vader stopped him, and they fought. Hell Anakin basically quoted him in the episode, when she said she wouldn't fight her master. I don't think it's a coincidence that the new balance force god has twin children, a daughter who leans towards the light and a son who brushed up several times with the dark. And both of them disappeared force ghost style when they died, iirc.
@@AidanShourds Because Ahsoka was revived using the remaining life essence of the daughter meaning she had a part of the daughter within from that moment hence Morai follows her around as Morai did with the daughter before. Ahsoka also changed her lightsabers to white which I think signifies that she is the embodiment of the light side of the force like the daughter was.
@@fatakcz5962 That does not change the Film Cannon. And in terms of film cannon (personal desires dismissed), there is currently no clear idea to who would take the mantle of the Son, though I have seen some spectate that Balon might be up for that role. Given that his actor (may he rest in peace) has passed away, Ezra might be more likely, but that is still a long shot at the moment. And for now, Starkiller is not cannon in the Film Cannon and no amount of Head Cannon is going to change that.
I think Galen Merek would be a good choice for the new Son. He knew the Dark Side and embraced it, but he learnt to let go and learn love and a desire of peace. It would also make sense because the new Daughter was Anakin's Jedi apprentice, and the new Son, Galen Merek, was Vader's Sith apprentice. Not only did Galen learn love, he also felt pity for Vader. This, along with learning why Vader died, would prevent Galen from falling into the Dark Side and allowing peace in balance.
By this logic Luke could be the son too since he also has some Darkside tendencies but he is not controlled by it plus you know he is an actual character in canon lol
If Anakin is the replacement for The Father representing Balance it would make sense that Ahsoka, his Light Side apprentice, would be the replacement for The Daughter representing Light and that a version of his Dark Side Apprentice, Galen Marek would be the replacement for The Son to represent the Dark.
After watching the fifth episode, I think this is even more true. He was trying to impart wisdom from Ahsoka that The Father was trying to teach him in TCW arc.
What a wild coincidence that "Vader" also means "father". Maybe he was destined to take the Father's place as the master of the Light and Dark after all. Of course, I **really** doubt George had the Mortis arc in mind when he named Vader lmfao (to clarify, I don't actually think this; of course he didn't), but maybe it's one of those funny coincidences if this theory's true?
@@travisvanalst4698 Yes, I'm aware lol; hence why I've repeatedly said "coincidence" and included the "lmfao" at the end of my sarcastic comment about George *probably* not having the Mortis arc in mind, since the Mortis arc episodes come out about 30 years after ANH did. My point is that it'd be such a fitting and cool coincidence if, as Vader, Anakin was foreshadowed as the "Father" in more ways than just being the biological father of Luke and Leia; it makes it look like he was truly destined to become the final and ultimate Mortis god, even at his darkest and lowest.
@@DeutschlandBall-lt4ch Again, I'm very well aware, thank you. The word being a German misspelling is relatively common knowledge nowadays and I've mentioned both as a reply to someone and in an edit of my original comment that, no, I don't actually think he had the Mortis arc in mind when he named Vader; it's not my finest sarcastic comment but I didn't think it would go over as many heads as it has.
It would also be the representation of all Filoni’s work, Ahsoka represents TCW, Ezra represents Rebels and Anakin is the overarching main character of Star Wars overall
@notmephisto1375 Yes, I'm aware. I'm just saying this is a fan depiction, and The Son is Starkiller in the depiction. It still makes no sense for The Son to be Ezra. He's not dark. And it's not related to the depiction being Starkiller at all. It's not a "Starkiller makes more sense than Ezra" thing because he isn't canon. If Galen Marek WERE to be made canon though (highly unlikely), it would definitely make sense for it to be him.
Before I ever seen rebels I always felt Maul would be a better representation of the Son.. Maul has suffered more than any other dark side character.. his appearance just seems more in line with the Son. Left for dead twice and has a rage even greater than Sidious.. I like the idea of the sith who couldn’t cut it getting a final chance to become a god and rule since he was least liky
Maul definitely fits it well, the other candidate would absolutely be Starkiller considering he was more entangled with Anakins dark side ark and was also his apprentice like Ahsoka... too bad disney is gonna keep shoving space alladin in our faces instead of darth freakin maul or the kratos of star wars
@@lorenzosandoval7328 I gave up on star Killer being Cannon… so many opportunities to bring him in but nope,, we got palp in the last Star Wars movie again
Ahsoka is already The Daughter, every since The Daughter gave her life force to resurrect her. The Father wanted Anakin to stay and take his place - it's not impossible he made a clone. The Son is unknown, Starkiller would make sense but he's not canon yet, I just hope it's not Ezra.
Dude, both Anakins apprentices on both sides of the force being depicted as the daughter and son. While Anakin is split down the middle, separated by both versions of himself is 🔥.
I know they won't bring Maul back again, but Maul would be best candidate for the Son. Both Ahsoka and Maul were ultimately able to see both the dark inside the light and the light inside the dark. He is the Son of Dathomir.
I think you're right, maul's story has been told and done. But I agree he would have been an excellent choice for the Son. I wouldn't classify Maul as strictly evil. Tragic sure, but not evil. More like he had no faith or trust so ultimately the dark side just made sense to him. Ultimate power gives you ultimate control, ultimate control means you decide what is best for others and removes the fear of betrayal. It's not evil so much as right in his eyes, he would have made the perfect Son. Of course I always felt maul was a fascinating and underutilized character so...
@@mikylak7983Honestly I don't think there was a single part of Maul that was truly evil. He was taken as a child and raised by the Sith, who were definitely evil themselves. He did what Sith do, because that's all he was raised to know. His actions then weren't so much out of malice as they were due to him channeling the rage that he rightfully had against the Sith. After the Sith cast him aside, he realized that they were the reason for and true target of his anger. In his quest for revenge he did bad things, and you could say it was for selfish reasons, but he was always just trying to get back at those who wronged him. I don't think he was ever really evil at all to be honest.
What about Maul as the Son? Not much to go on, but his line while being clutched by Obi-Wan in Rebels leads me to believe he had finally embraced his role in the universe and the dark side as a whole
@@jaieregilmore971 what difference does that make? Its not like a fan club with an initiation fee and required reference. They were both powerful force users, maul managed to survive being cut in half
Maul is a capable fighter but he isn’t that powerful in the Force. He was trained as disposable sith assassin that could not truly ascend higher in the ways of the Force
This has a fascinating twist: Anakin Skywalker, formerly Darth Vader, is now the cosmic deity of all resembling the balance that should be. The name Vader comes from the German Vater which means 'father.' Quite poetic!
No, Vader comes not from father. That is bullshit Lucas made up after the release of of Empire Strikes Back to make his self created myth, everything in Star Wars was planned out beforehand, believable. Before Empire, he stated, Darth Vader derived from playing with the words "dark water".
It would be fascinating if there’s a flashback with Sam Witwer reprising his role as the Son. He did said he worked in the series and I don’t think he was referring to him voicing Marrock.
1:45 and this is why you never let a Jedi do your accounting Business owner “”wait where is the other half of my business?”” Jedi “”destroyed it I have”” Business owner “”WHAT!!! why on earth would you do that?”” Jedi “”you asked me to balance the books so I have, your business is now completely in balance!”” Business owner “”what kind of nonsense is that how can anything be balanced when you destroy Half of it? I’m ruined””
@@entertainmentbeyondshow if you don't like the franchise why do you continue to engage with it? I genuinely want to know. If you think Disney's star wars movies were so bad that it taints EVERY other good thing the franchise has done/will do then what are you doing here?
@@vmpere2637 did I ever say it tainted EVERYTHING? No no I did not I said what I said because the sequel trilogy is straight trash. The only good character is the main character Ray, and last I checked my opinion is just as valid as everyone else’s!
@@vmpere2637 and it’s a pure FACT Disney has pretty much ruined a SURE THING in Star Wars, idk why a legit fact has you in such a tizzy lol. but it’s TRUE all of it- HAN SOLO 👌🏾🤓😂
Great video, I love it. However, after Asohka died and was brought back with the daughters life force, the owl stays near her as it did the daughter. If you remember, to get to the world in between worlds, a picture in the jedi temple had to be manipulated using the daughters hand. Since she has the daughters life force, I believe that Asohka unknowingly has the ability to travel to the world in between worlds on her own. I would love if the rest is true though.
Why does this make a lot of sense very interesting theory. Just imagine for a second Anakin the father Ashoka the daughter because of the fight before ashoka arrived in the world between worlds Baylon the son maybe
Kathleen Kennedy is likely responsible for that since Anakin is George’s golden brain child and she somehow finds it insulting to have to do Star Wars George’s way.
@@VictimOfReason If a FANFICTION despises the original, it deserves scorn. How much more when it’s the official cannon continuation of someone else’s work, and you’re getting paid for it
No. Anakin is always be the chosen one. In new trilogy it's Anakin and Palpatine's grandchild story. Its about Vader and Darth Sidious legacy. Anakin still playing significant role and he chose Rey to restore the balance as he did. It's clearly when Anakin said "Bring back the balance Rey as I did."
I can totally see Cal becoming the Son's replacement, depending on how Jedi III goes. That would be a very interesting combo, jsut because the live action stuff has never really been attached to the video game stuff.
I don't know if Dave Filoni is willing or allowed to go this deep. This would fix a lot of the problems with the sequel trilogies and beyond. It would be cool
That would make an awful lot of sense. Though I’m not sure Ezra or Morgan would qualify to become the embodiment of the Son. Then again, the role of the Son might require someone being able to become a Force ghost as Anakin has. That would disqualify Palpatine, despite him being the most powerful dark-sider with any connection to Anakin. Or… maybe Ahsoka embodies both the Daughter and the Son. She did experience both of their powers: the Son’s corruption and the Daughter’s healing.
That would mean that Galen Marek qualifies. This would be a good way to bring him back into canon without destroying his feats. If he was always meant to be a reincarnation of the Son.
I really like this idea. It would fulfill the prophecy around Anakin in a way much greater than merely offing Palpatine. Time will tell if it holds up.
its important to remember one other incredibly important role of the Mortis Ones. They are the jailers of Aboleth. And seeing as how she hasn't been running around destroying worlds, SOMETHING is keeping her locked up. unless....that wasn't Anakin, but ABOLETH.
I think it would be interesting to explore an 'out of balanced' force for a bit. I feel Ezra's story doesn't make to much sense as the 'Son' right now. I feel if the want to explore a path of redemption for the sequels, have Ben/Kylo play the role of the Son would be interesting.
@@VioletMoon4155 the thumbnail art shows Galen but the video says Ezra... i think we all want the kratos of star wars rather than space alladin from a mediocre clone wars follow up show
I wonder if he met Padmé again. Perhaps he can summon her spirit. If not, it's kind of bittersweet. Being a God but having to spend eternity without her.
For those still asking; The Son wasn't a master of the Dark side. There aren't "sides" of the Force. Different aspects of it, sure, but the Dark Side is a corruption of the Force. Anger, Passion, aggressiveness, all this is a part of life. Letting negative emotions consume you however, that's when you begin to lose control, to become corrupted. The Nightsisters actually worshipped the Mortis Gods, and they had the best view on the Force, as well as Balance. It's why, unlike Sith, the Nightsisters used darker aspects of the Force, but didn't actually use the Dark Side. If anything, one could argue they were too conservative with what they had. The complete opposite of the insane greed of the sith. They all remained on Dathomir, making it easy to wipe their people out (for the most part). I get why they stayed, but it was the one mistake they made that doomed them... but that's another conversation altogether. The "Light" Side isn't a thing, its simply what it was called after the Dark Side became a thing. The Son's whole ARC on Mortis was him falling to the Dark Side... so many fans have misunderstood this ARC, its insane; Also, more Jedi than Sith isn't a bad thing. Balance isn't a numbers game with the force like so many believe. Balance is the Dark Side being extinguished, and the light being the OG balancing force. To reiterate, the Son of Mortis was never a master of the Dark Side, his entire story ARC was literally about him falling to the Dark, to Corruption, in the end. Having thousands of Jedi wasn't the issue. The way their Order was set up and functioned was the issue. The "False Light" of their Order was the issue. Anakin didn't have to slaughter their kind off to achieve balance, a reformation of the Order would've worked as well... just would've taken longer. Wiping the slate clean by annihilation of the Order and the Sith was just a more cut and dry method of doing it. Inner peace, anger, passion, etc is all important, but letting your negative emotions corrupt you... THAT is why the Dark Side is unnatural. Thousands of true Jedi is ideal, thousands of Sus, blinded Jedi is what the problem was. As for the Son, he was the hunter, the strength, the passion, the anger of nature. He wasn't a master of the Dark Side, otherwise his Arc would've been VERY different. He let his greed get the better of him, his emotions and list for power went out beyond his due once Anakin arrived. He saw he was wrong in the end, but with the Father and Daughter dead/dying, he likely would've been consumed by guilt, and once again fallen to the Dark. So, that's why unfortunately, Anakin still had to kill him. Someone that OP in the Force, falling to the Dark, would make even Palpatine look like a joke.
Agreed. The way I interpreted it was the Father mistaking what balance was and thought it was Yin and Yang. He tried to tame the darkside like with the light, but that's impossible. It leads to darkside taking over everything. Anakin corrects that mistake by killing the darkside, and embracing the light at the end of the arc.
This doesn’t feel quite right the way I see it there the Force is very much like the idea of yin and yang, but both the ying and the yang are part of the same whole. Therefore to say the dark side is simply a corruption of the force I feel is incorrect, look at the night sisters would you call the way they utilized it corrupt ? I think when destructive power is needed we have the the dark side the destroyer the son, and when we need to breathe life into a place, grow mature nurture we have the daughter. The father is the whole. I think it’s pretty awesome if Anikan becomes the father so to speak would definitely make me pick up Ashoka
People like to think of The Force as a circle split down the middle with one side being "Light" and the other one "Dark", but in reality it's more like a circle with a smaller circle inside of it, the larger one being "The Force" and the smaller one being "The Dark Side".
I agree with this point. The Son had an affinity for the Dark, the Daughter for the Light. Both had both inside them, and like the Bendu the Father was the One in the Middle. The Mortis Arc was supposed to symbolize the Dark becoming ascendant, and the Son was pushed to it by his own affinity for it. This led the Daughter to make the Dark choice to kill him, giving Obi-Wan the Dagger of Mortis to kill the Son. This backlashed and led to her own death when he stabbed her, and the Son recoiled as the Light feelings of love he had for his sister led to the Father sacrificing himself and both dying. The Ones weren't controlling the force, they were manifestations of it. As it imbalanced, they became imbalanced, which led to the darkside feedback loop
@@mthandazosiziba7344 The Dark Side corrupts. It's OK to have anger, to have passion, to have emotions, but the point is to not let it consume you. Letting the Darkness consume you is what leads to unbalance. The Son was the more aggressive, assertive half, but that doesn't make him evil
I think Ezra has a natural talent of using the dark side yet he is not evil. Like the Son was use to be. The Son isn’t a Sith. He isn’t meant to be evil because the sith tries to corrupt the force and use to their advantage. Dark side isn’t a tool for the sith it is a part of natural order.
I think the new manifestation of the son has potential to be Shin Hati. She has a chaotic dark side style that reminds me of the son. She’s so off the walls even Baylen is a little taken aback even though they are both dark side users.
@@vmpere2637 Still a better choice than Starkiller, which isnt even canon. I think it could be baylon because his role is calling to him to restore. Baylon and Ashoka is both not purely light/dark but are wise about both sides. Perfect balance
Not be technical here, but I don't think Baylan is a dark side user per se. By that I mean he is not consumed by it. He understands and values it's power, but he knows his limits.
I think because anakin (who killed the son), lived as both skywalker and Vader he takes the place of both father and son. He was an apprentice to Sidious and the Jedi Order, therefore lived a balanced life and balance’s the force. He also raised Ashoka who imbodies the daughter
@@splashnskillz37 George himself described the darkside as a cancer, it isn't natural in the slightest. The Force represents the cycle of life from birth to death and finally rebirth, the darkside is the disruption of this cycle, it's unnecessary death and suffering, there's nothing about the darkside that makes it necessary to exist which is why Anakin only dies after killing the last Sith lord and giving the galaxy the opportunity to recover from the misery Palpatine put them through
@@splashnskillz37 saying that the darkside is natural but the sith aren't is the same as saying that cancer is a natural thing for our body to develop but dying from it isn't. This distinction you're trying to make isn't real and people will often point to the Mortis arc as proof of it being true when what the episodes say is the exact opposite, the Son wasn't a manifestation of the darkside, just half of the cycle of death and rebirth that is the Force, he falls AFTER Anakin arrives because he finds out about Vader and gets tempted by all that power which leads him to becoming stronger than the Daughter and the death of all three of the Mortis gods and this is a theme among every group or society of Force users in the story, the Zeffo from Fallen Order are driven to near extinction after some of them fall to the darkside, the Witches of Dathomir are slave masters that betray everyone that aren't one of the Sisters which also lead them to be driven near extinction, a lot of Jedi and people around them die every time one of them fall to the darkside, first with Dooku, then at least two more times during the Clone Wars and finally almost all of them are killed when Anakin falls, the Sith themselves are only forced to adopt the Rule of Two because big groups always led to infighting and betrayals, the darkside IS the entire problem but this doesn't mean that a Jedi can't be angry or scared, that's not what the darkside is (which is what the Jedi Order forgot), it just means the Jedi cannot let those feelings control them, they don't need to suppress their fear, they need to find the courage to confront it, they don't need to suppress their anger but find the kindness to forgive whoever made them angry and they don't need to suppress their sadness but find reasons to be happy despite that, THIS is balance, failing to do any of this and giving into those negative feelings leads to corruption and the darkside. As a fun fact I took this three examples from actual scenes in the story, the first and second are from Yoda at the end of CW season 6 and, obviously, Luke at the end of RotJ but the third I actually took from the Kenobi show during his final fight against Vader so even Disney SW is still adhering to this concept. Another example of fear being overcome is Ahsoka in the WBW, Anakin isn't using the darkside, he's reflecting Ahsoka's fears and traumas, symbolized by her eyes glowing orange when the red saber reflects on them and, since she's able to overcome that trial and therefore her own darkness, immediately after that she changes from the grey clothes (mix of black/darkness and white/light) to white clothes to show that she's now at peace with herself and Anakin or in other words, in balance
@@treadlightly76 can Disney be that creative? No, for sure not. But, I have faith in Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni. Dave Filoni brought back The Mortis Gods without mention of The Mother. And yet, we have a group called Night Sister, whose leader is a Night Mother. Seems very much like Night Sister Magic is a corrupted version of The Force and would fit pretty well with Aboleth. Especially, if we are getting a story of Anakin as a new Mortis God. If Aboleth still exists, Anakin killed her family in Clone Wars.
I like this theory a lot, and I think it just makes too much sense. I think it also addresses the issue of "balance" in the Force, which is something people have debated endlessly about. Here's my take: I don't think "light and darkness" are akin to the "light side/Jedi" and the "dark side/Sith". Without institutions like the Sith and the Jedi Order, light and darkness "just is." There is no corruption attached. So the way I interpret the Mortis arc is that light and darkness are the natural order and aren't corrupt in and of themselves. The Father even explains this to Anakin when he's explaining their history: He says that "too much dark or light would be the undoing of life as you understand it." Balance, according to Mortis and The Father, is a "balance" between light and darkness, between creation and destruction. Not necessarily even-keel, but one cannot exist in harmony without the other. And as I mentioned before, he also said that organized factions, like the Sith, have corrupted their power and natural order. And based on what he said, the same thing can probably be said about the Jedi Order, especially in relation to the High Republic and its corruption of the light. The only reason The Son was corrupted by the "dark side" (again, not the same as "darkness" on its own) was because of Anakin's arrival and the burden of knowing Anakin's future. He allowed his vision to corrupt him. But had Anakin never arrived, he, his father, and his sister would have continued to live in their natural state. And also, not many people notice this... but The Daughter was also corrupted in that episode. Her selflessness compelled her to show Obi-Wan where the dagger was to control her brother. Had they not retrieved the dagger, the events wouldn't have played out the way they did. No one dies. So I do believe that for there to be true "balance," darkness and light both have to exist, even if the scales aren't exaclty even. Anakin embodies that, and him embodying The Father would fulfill his destiny as The Chosen One per the definition set by The Father. And given that Ahsoka already canonically embodies The Daughter, it would make perfect, poetic sense for Galen Marek to embody The Son. Because even though both of them would be the embodiment of light and dark, that doesn't mean they're corruptible. Ahsoka left The Order, and Marek left the Sith; and in turn, they let go of their corruption and forged their own path. And they're connected to each other through Anakin, The Father, as his two apprentices: one light, one dark. I'd say that's about as close as Filoni could get to embodying The Mortis gods in the flesh.
I actually really like this theory, and with most of the other theories i have seen online, it is probably my favorite and most realistic in my opinion. It could be a bit of a stretch to assume this new show would reach that deep in the lore, but at this point I am just hoping that there is not another last Jedi moment where they just destroy one of the most important characters in the entire series.
Only our imagination can give us a glimpse on what we could have gotten, if Lucas made his Sequels. He literally said they were going to be about the force. I think it would have been about Luke's new Jedi order and the knights of ren. Maybe in the End Anakin could have taken his place as the father and bring balance, wirh Ahsoka as the light and kylo ren (he is Anakins grandson) as the dark.
We know what "Balance" meant, Lucas told us, and it doesn't mean blending the Light and Dark sides together. There are numerous examples throughout history that show what a disaster that was, with the only exception being Darth Vectivus, because he seldom delved deeply into the Dark side, and he never did so for selfish reasons. He probably would have been an exceptional Jedi, if he could have found one to teach him.
As much as i would hate Ezra to be turned, this theory still makes sense which means Ezra as the son is plausible. But where would the series go from here if now we are dealing with three family celestials? There is a lot more story telling with the other characters though, like Jacen, the ghost crew, Kanan's Lothal wolf life force, Sabine, and so much more
Great theory - I'm not sure the Son is locked in yet. Either way, I don' t think all this will happen in this season though. I think this season is about Ahsoka on her way to be the White. I think this is more of a longer term theory. Dave always ties things up, just not right away.
We also don't see Ahsoka or Ezra or have any mention of them in the sequels which I think is really weird considering they'd both be extremely powerful jedi and could've taken out the first order alone
Ezra doesn't really make sense as the son, just like he didn't as Marrock. Ezra made his allegiance clear, he struggled with the dark side in Rebels but he eventually rejected it
I don't think he really rejects it. He rejects the way the darkside is used by the most. But its just how a person will use it. Right now he is 10 years without Kenan and the others. In that time he has chanced a lot. He even found a new fightingstyle without a lightsaber if you believe his character description. Just like the lightside of the force isn't all good, the darkside is the same. I see Ezra find a way to get that balance. Ezra is always pulled on by the darkside, but is known to fight and defeat the temptations of the darkside. Something no one else was able to do for we know
Ummm… Revan? Jedi turned Sith Lord, turned Jedi, once again? The only one to defeat the dark side within himself, and be redeemed to the Force. Until Anakin, that is.
I always love that bit were the Father just grabs Anakin's lightsaber with his bare hand and deactivates. That's the mother(no pun intended) of all flexes.
That is a good point, Anakin has walked both sides and would allow him to be better mediate between both. As for the daughter and son replacements, Ahsoka and Starkiller have had some of the closest attachments to Anakin while he was alive.
2:00 also this is most likely why studious and Vader were so strong there weren’t meny dark side users left as the Jedi had done their job so well, also this is why Luke was so strong by wiping out so meny light side force users in such a short time the force focused on the few light side users left and pumped added strength into them in a effete to restore the balance.
I want to see Darth sideous come through the veil of the force in the world between worlds looking for a way to immortality and be truly shocked to find anakin there as the embodiment of the force and have them duel and sideous just gets his ass handed to him and is destroyed by Anakin.
Actually; I think Maul may represent the Son, as he has been killed before; yet he still comes back. I think Anakin will pull Maul from his moment of death on Tatooine, and give him the Son’s powers
Whilst I'm sure Filoni would appreciate this theory...can you imagine trying to explain it all to viewers who aren't familiar with the depth of SW lore as you are? 😂🤦🏽♂️
Yes, great, great, great theory👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾. Because this is what I said on a different channel in a roundaboutway, and people were like "there's no way" I said "you clearly didn't watch clone wars" Well done!!!
Just a random thought. What if Baylan AND Marrok = Galen Marrek (somehow with B also sorta being Joruus), and Shin will become the new dark side balance, since the name can mean "belief, faith, trust, new, true, or God; depending on which culture pulled from. The surnames, Skoll and Hati, origin could be assumed and not given, to reflect some chosen path based off some myth or maybe spiritual-Loth wolf name similar to our Nordic myths. Using the Marrok parallels to our mythology and his interpretation, I can't help but shake the wolf symbolism between the three still means something. If any of that makes sense.
I really love this theory dude. Being the manga and anime fan that I am, it kinda reminds me of Madara Uchiha, Obito Uchiha and Sasuke Uchiha. In the end, they represent the darkness and the light, with Sasuke being in the middle like Anakin. Just my opinion lol
Anakin isnt the chosen one. Luke is. This is cannon. Lucas has said it numerous times over the last 25 years. Still, its not a bad take. Anakin as the Father.
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The entire Star Wars universe truly revolved around Anakin. He's a god now.
Hope so.
Nice.
Love this theory. Hope it pans out, too.
This theory is exactly what I first thought of when I saw anakin in the world between worlds
It’s the one that makes the most sense
I feel like the world between worlds is like “the cannon”
And anakin, and maybe even ahsoka at the end of the season will be protectors of the world between worlds and therefore protectors of “the cannon”
I realllly hope one of the bad guys goes in there and we see a battle that goes between different crucial points in Star Wars history
grogu is gonna beat up stupid demon ghost anakin. just watch . his armor cant be penetrated by force ghost lightsabers. may the prosper be with you dumb human muggles!
Wouldn’t this undermine Disney’s choice of making Rey the chosen one?
Maul definetely fits more as a replacement for the son
Ashoka and Maul alike were thought the ways of the forc by prodigies - Anakin and the order - the light side and Sidious - the dark side. Both of them were abandoned/cast out and had to find their way. Both of them fought against each other and both of them worked together. Both of them developed a character of their own and grew to understand the force.
Maul always seems for me like he was really in touch with his dark side, same as Ashoka was with the light. But both of them were balanced in their side of the force. Ashoka was definitely a follower of the light but she was never blinded by the light, same as maul was a follower of the dark and wasn't blinded by the dark. Both had deeper connection with the force. Both weren't afraid to understand it and see it for what it really is
Anakin never met Maul
Same voice actor too
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Is that a requirement? My thought was that Mortis is the will of the force. The gods serve to balance it.
I don't think it's an Anakin Skywalker support group. If he ends up at Mortis or the world between worlds after death, he's just simply a god now.
He will avenge us all?
Anakin and Maul met more than once in The Phantom Menace, if only briefly.
Makes sense. Anakin is as much vader as vader is anakin.
He embodies the wild nature of the force. He began in the center, moved towards the light.
In the beginning of the clone wars He began to succumb to the dark until it consumed him completely.
And finally from a new hope into the end of rise of the jedi, he would begin to feel the pull to the light, till he was able to find balance within himself and defeat sidious to save his son.
Anakin and vada! Are they the same person?
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@@lukeosburn9361 if we dont sin jesus died for nothing
@@NahIdSwordHorrible... but logically sound... The Bible in a nutshell.
@@lukeosburn9361get this shit out of here
THE FATHER deemed Anakin the Chosen One. Tested, proven, it was never Anakin's choice except for the fact he chose his version of the "daughter" when he used the life force of the daughter to save Asokha.
I mean come on the Father has a boy and a girl probably twins and the chosen one has twins a boy and a girl.
But the daughters extension follows Ahsoka. Not Leia. Leia had force abilities but never really used them (in canon). Luke became the next Yoda like in episode 5. A Master Hermit. There's no way Luke knew the world between worlds or that deep into the force like Ahsoka and Anakin. While Luke was powerful and brought balance. Anakins death cemented his position as the new father of the force.
Luke and Leia can't be depictions of the Son and the Daughter. Neither are dark, so they wouldn't fit the mantle of the Son.
Ahsoka is already canonically connected to the Daughter. The Son could be anyone, but if we're going with the theme here and the relationships of the original Mortis gods, Galen Marek makes too much sense. He and Ahsoka were basically Anakin's children, one light and one dark, before Anakin/Vader knew about his actual children.
But Galen's not canon as of now, which is the issue. If they did decide to take this route with the story though and suggest Anakin and Ahsoka are the Father and Daughter, he's really the only person who would make sense as the Son.
The other thing to consider though is that the Daughter and the Father "passed on." Their physical bodies disappeared and became one with the Force. The Son's didn't because he represents darkness, and he didn't have that ability. So it's also quite possible that the Son is actually dead, even if the other two aren't.
@@AidanShourds She used them several times. It's implied she was better at being a Jedi than Luke was, and that's not just in the sequels.
Ahsoka still has plenty of time to influence Leia, and Luke did technically embrace the dark when he tried murderizing Palpatine. Vader stopped him, and they fought. Hell Anakin basically quoted him in the episode, when she said she wouldn't fight her master.
I don't think it's a coincidence that the new balance force god has twin children, a daughter who leans towards the light and a son who brushed up several times with the dark. And both of them disappeared force ghost style when they died, iirc.
@@AidanShourds Because Ahsoka was revived using the remaining life essence of the daughter meaning she had a part of the daughter within from that moment hence Morai follows her around as Morai did with the daughter before. Ahsoka also changed her lightsabers to white which I think signifies that she is the embodiment of the light side of the force like the daughter was.
If Ahsoka is being chosen to replace the daughter, it would make sense for Starkiller to be the son. I love this theory though!
Where is Starkiller coming from? This character isn’t even canon
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@@fatakcz5962 That does not change the Film Cannon.
And in terms of film cannon (personal desires dismissed), there is currently no clear idea to who would take the mantle of the Son, though I have seen some spectate that Balon might be up for that role. Given that his actor (may he rest in peace) has passed away, Ezra might be more likely, but that is still a long shot at the moment. And for now, Starkiller is not cannon in the Film Cannon and no amount of Head Cannon is going to change that.
@@fatakcz5962I haven’t even played the game (sadly) but I got that reference
@@BC08its disney he will be the off spring of r2d2 or something 😂😂😂😂
I think Galen Merek would be a good choice for the new Son. He knew the Dark Side and embraced it, but he learnt to let go and learn love and a desire of peace. It would also make sense because the new Daughter was Anakin's Jedi apprentice, and the new Son, Galen Merek, was Vader's Sith apprentice. Not only did Galen learn love, he also felt pity for Vader. This, along with learning why Vader died, would prevent Galen from falling into the Dark Side and allowing peace in balance.
Yes! I love this explanation, and this is exactly what I was thinking.
By this logic Luke could be the son too since he also has some Darkside tendencies but he is not controlled by it plus you know he is an actual character in canon lol
Galen Marek is not cannon
I know, I just meant that if he was canon, and it would not be hard to make him canon, he would be perfect.
SAME
If Anakin is the replacement for The Father representing Balance it would make sense that Ahsoka, his Light Side apprentice, would be the replacement for The Daughter representing Light and that a version of his Dark Side Apprentice, Galen Marek would be the replacement for The Son to represent the Dark.
This ^
omg yes please
Considering Malrek got offed.....I'm going with no.
@@seanutsch5145marrok was a new character and not starkiller
Maul ...
After watching the fifth episode, I think this is even more true. He was trying to impart wisdom from Ahsoka that The Father was trying to teach him in TCW arc.
What a wild coincidence that "Vader" also means "father". Maybe he was destined to take the Father's place as the master of the Light and Dark after all. Of course, I **really** doubt George had the Mortis arc in mind when he named Vader lmfao (to clarify, I don't actually think this; of course he didn't), but maybe it's one of those funny coincidences if this theory's true?
Well he’s Luke and Leias father. Pretty sure that’s what George was going for.
@@travisvanalst4698 Yes, I'm aware lol; hence why I've repeatedly said "coincidence" and included the "lmfao" at the end of my sarcastic comment about George *probably* not having the Mortis arc in mind, since the Mortis arc episodes come out about 30 years after ANH did.
My point is that it'd be such a fitting and cool coincidence if, as Vader, Anakin was foreshadowed as the "Father" in more ways than just being the biological father of Luke and Leia; it makes it look like he was truly destined to become the final and ultimate Mortis god, even at his darkest and lowest.
The force works in mysterious ways, man.
technically its a misspelling of a german word, and he was probably doing it for the ot lol
@@DeutschlandBall-lt4ch Again, I'm very well aware, thank you. The word being a German misspelling is relatively common knowledge nowadays and I've mentioned both as a reply to someone and in an edit of my original comment that, no, I don't actually think he had the Mortis arc in mind when he named Vader; it's not my finest sarcastic comment but I didn't think it would go over as many heads as it has.
Is no one gonna talk about the sick Ahsoka and Starkiller thumbnail
Genuinely made me think we were gonna hear a great starkiller theory involved in this ;-;
It truly looks godly
It would also be the representation of all Filoni’s work, Ahsoka represents TCW, Ezra represents Rebels and Anakin is the overarching main character of Star Wars overall
yep
That isn’t Ezra though that’s starkiller
That's Starkiller, not Ezra. It'd make no sense for it to be Ezra.
Starkiller is not canon
@notmephisto1375 Yes, I'm aware. I'm just saying this is a fan depiction, and The Son is Starkiller in the depiction.
It still makes no sense for The Son to be Ezra. He's not dark. And it's not related to the depiction being Starkiller at all. It's not a "Starkiller makes more sense than Ezra" thing because he isn't canon.
If Galen Marek WERE to be made canon though (highly unlikely), it would definitely make sense for it to be him.
That thumbnail is dope
Anakin knows the true balance of the force as a jedi and sith. Ashoka is his apprentice of the light and Galen is his apprentice of the dark.
Actually, I think Maul would be an INFINITELY better candidate as the Son than Ezra.
True
This is one of the coolest theories of Star Wars I've ever heard
Before I ever seen rebels I always felt Maul would be a better representation of the Son.. Maul has suffered more than any other dark side character.. his appearance just seems more in line with the Son. Left for dead twice and has a rage even greater than Sidious.. I like the idea of the sith who couldn’t cut it getting a final chance to become a god and rule since he was least liky
Maul would be a great representation of the Son
Maul definitely fits it well, the other candidate would absolutely be Starkiller considering he was more entangled with Anakins dark side ark and was also his apprentice like Ahsoka... too bad disney is gonna keep shoving space alladin in our faces instead of darth freakin maul or the kratos of star wars
@@lorenzosandoval7328 I gave up on star Killer being Cannon… so many opportunities to bring him in but nope,, we got palp in the last Star Wars movie again
Wow this is so cool Ahsoka the light and starkiller the dark so which makes Anakin the Father Ahsoka the daughter and starkiller the son
Is Starkilller canon now to be anything
But Starkiller also turned to the light, so he'd be also balanced.
Ahsoka is already The Daughter, every since The Daughter gave her life force to resurrect her.
The Father wanted Anakin to stay and take his place - it's not impossible he made a clone.
The Son is unknown, Starkiller would make sense but he's not canon yet, I just hope it's not Ezra.
I agree, Ezra has so much more development to hash out. It would be a shame to lock him in the role of the son.
Except starkiller turned to the light. The second game was about a clone not the real starkiller.
This is my favorite theory ever. I hope they do this. The whole story is set around him
Dude, both Anakins apprentices on both sides of the force being depicted as the daughter and son. While Anakin is split down the middle, separated by both versions of himself is 🔥.
I know they won't bring Maul back again, but Maul would be best candidate for the Son. Both Ahsoka and Maul were ultimately able to see both the dark inside the light and the light inside the dark. He is the Son of Dathomir.
Maul was very wise. He saw through everything. He would be a great son
I think you're right, maul's story has been told and done. But I agree he would have been an excellent choice for the Son. I wouldn't classify Maul as strictly evil. Tragic sure, but not evil. More like he had no faith or trust so ultimately the dark side just made sense to him. Ultimate power gives you ultimate control, ultimate control means you decide what is best for others and removes the fear of betrayal. It's not evil so much as right in his eyes, he would have made the perfect Son.
Of course I always felt maul was a fascinating and underutilized character so...
Maul was mid at best
Maul let his rage blind him again and never truly saw what the light side offered for what it is, but as how sith saw it.
@@mikylak7983Honestly I don't think there was a single part of Maul that was truly evil. He was taken as a child and raised by the Sith, who were definitely evil themselves. He did what Sith do, because that's all he was raised to know. His actions then weren't so much out of malice as they were due to him channeling the rage that he rightfully had against the Sith. After the Sith cast him aside, he realized that they were the reason for and true target of his anger. In his quest for revenge he did bad things, and you could say it was for selfish reasons, but he was always just trying to get back at those who wronged him. I don't think he was ever really evil at all to be honest.
What about Maul as the Son? Not much to go on, but his line while being clutched by Obi-Wan in Rebels leads me to believe he had finally embraced his role in the universe and the dark side as a whole
Wouldn’t work because he never mat Anakin.
Starkiller works better as he was the darkside apprentice to anakin as ahsoka was the light apprentice
@@jaieregilmore971 what difference does that make? Its not like a fan club with an initiation fee and required reference. They were both powerful force users, maul managed to survive being cut in half
Maul is a capable fighter but he isn’t that powerful in the Force. He was trained as disposable sith assassin that could not truly ascend higher in the ways of the Force
@@bet0v966 he literally used the force and dark side energy to survive getting cut in half not sure what you mean
This has a fascinating twist: Anakin Skywalker, formerly Darth Vader, is now the cosmic deity of all resembling the balance that should be. The name Vader comes from the German Vater which means 'father.' Quite poetic!
Actually Vader is dutch for father
No, Vader comes not from father. That is bullshit Lucas made up after the release of of Empire Strikes Back to make his self created myth, everything in Star Wars was planned out beforehand, believable.
Before Empire, he stated, Darth Vader derived from playing with the words "dark water".
It would be fascinating if there’s a flashback with Sam Witwer reprising his role as the Son. He did said he worked in the series and I don’t think he was referring to him voicing Marrock.
Apparently Sam Witwer did a voice when Ahsoka is feeling around on the podium. That very well may be the brother.
Somebody just give my boy starkiller some love
1:45 and this is why you never let a Jedi do your accounting
Business owner “”wait where is the other half of my business?””
Jedi “”destroyed it I have””
Business owner “”WHAT!!! why on earth would you do that?””
Jedi “”you asked me to balance the books so I have, your business is now completely in balance!””
Business owner “”what kind of nonsense is that how can anything be balanced when you destroy Half of it? I’m ruined””
I think this theory is spot on. If they don't end up doing it this way they're making a huge mistake. This is what makes sense.
Well DISNEY made the rise of skywalker soooo 😬🤷🏽
@@entertainmentbeyondshow if you don't like the franchise why do you continue to engage with it? I genuinely want to know. If you think Disney's star wars movies were so bad that it taints EVERY other good thing the franchise has done/will do then what are you doing here?
@@vmpere2637 did I ever say it tainted EVERYTHING? No no I did not I said what I said because the sequel trilogy is straight trash. The only good character is the main character Ray, and last I checked my opinion is just as valid as everyone else’s!
@@vmpere2637 and it’s a pure FACT Disney has pretty much ruined a SURE THING in Star Wars, idk why a legit fact has you in such a tizzy lol. but it’s TRUE all of it- HAN SOLO 👌🏾🤓😂
@@vmpere2637 Love isn't all red roses.
Sincerely hoping it is THIS vs a fever dream. I am over flashbacks and dreams. Ready to explore deeper mythology.
Great video, I love it. However, after Asohka died and was brought back with the daughters life force, the owl stays near her as it did the daughter. If you remember, to get to the world in between worlds, a picture in the jedi temple had to be manipulated using the daughters hand. Since she has the daughters life force, I believe that Asohka unknowingly has the ability to travel to the world in between worlds on her own. I would love if the rest is true though.
Love your videos and point of views.
Great community, BIG fan!!
Why does this make a lot of sense very interesting theory.
Just imagine for a second
Anakin the father
Ashoka the daughter
because of the fight before ashoka arrived in the world between worlds
Baylon the son maybe
Vader's apprentice Starkiller (Galen Marek) should be the Son
This theory is the best thing I’ve heard in a while!
I’d love seeing this fleshed out
Certainly a fun idea. I hate how the new cannon essentially forgot about Anakin for so long
Kathleen Kennedy is likely responsible for that since Anakin is George’s golden brain child and she somehow finds it insulting to have to do Star Wars George’s way.
@@VictimOfReason If a FANFICTION despises the original, it deserves scorn. How much more when it’s the official cannon continuation of someone else’s work, and you’re getting paid for it
No. Anakin is always be the chosen one. In new trilogy it's Anakin and Palpatine's grandchild story. Its about Vader and Darth Sidious legacy. Anakin still playing significant role and he chose Rey to restore the balance as he did. It's clearly when Anakin said "Bring back the balance Rey as I did."
I haven’t thought about this at all and this title blew my mind and I love it
your content is the best man always love your uploads
I appreciate it, thank you!
I can totally see Cal becoming the Son's replacement, depending on how Jedi III goes. That would be a very interesting combo, jsut because the live action stuff has never really been attached to the video game stuff.
I don't know if Dave Filoni is willing or allowed to go this deep. This would fix a lot of the problems with the sequel trilogies and beyond. It would be cool
This is an awesome theory but it's too cool for star wars to actually put it on screen
That would make an awful lot of sense. Though I’m not sure Ezra or Morgan would qualify to become the embodiment of the Son. Then again, the role of the Son might require someone being able to become a Force ghost as Anakin has. That would disqualify Palpatine, despite him being the most powerful dark-sider with any connection to Anakin.
Or… maybe Ahsoka embodies both the Daughter and the Son. She did experience both of their powers: the Son’s corruption and the Daughter’s healing.
That would mean that Galen Marek qualifies. This would be a good way to bring him back into canon without destroying his feats. If he was always meant to be a reincarnation of the Son.
One of my favorite Star Wars theories ever. So fun and interesting
This would be a very cool development where Anakin & Ahsoka both become force gods from their experience on Mortis.
I really like this idea. It would fulfill the prophecy around Anakin in a way much greater than merely offing Palpatine. Time will tell if it holds up.
This is an awesome theory, thank you
That thumbnail is so cool if you sold that as a poster i would buy it
8:12 if any one character was to replace the son from this cycle it would have to be Maul (or a resurrected Maul but fans would hate that).
also, I think this is an AMAZING theory! The way you have presented it would make, for me, a lot of sense. I really like this theory.
thank you
its important to remember one other incredibly important role of the Mortis Ones. They are the jailers of Aboleth. And seeing as how she hasn't been running around destroying worlds, SOMETHING is keeping her locked up. unless....that wasn't Anakin, but ABOLETH.
That's not canon, she dosen't really exist .
Not happening
Abeloth* BTW, but I have to respectfully disagree. Having abeloth as a roaming dark side monster in the unknown regions is very very chaotic
@@deadspacediehardfanthat is a very good point but I for one would love it if they made her canon.
@@heatherholland1051 if they're smart about it. I'd trust filoni if he does it
Good job this is one of the best theories I've seen in a very long time
I think it would be interesting to explore an 'out of balanced' force for a bit. I feel Ezra's story doesn't make to much sense as the 'Son' right now. I feel if the want to explore a path of redemption for the sequels, have Ben/Kylo play the role of the Son would be interesting.
That's Galen Marek, not Ezra
@@VioletMoon4155 the thumbnail art shows Galen but the video says Ezra... i think we all want the kratos of star wars rather than space alladin from a mediocre clone wars follow up show
I wonder if he met Padmé again. Perhaps he can summon her spirit. If not, it's kind of bittersweet. Being a God but having to spend eternity without her.
For those still asking;
The Son wasn't a master of the Dark side. There aren't "sides" of the Force. Different aspects of it, sure, but the Dark Side is a corruption of the Force. Anger, Passion, aggressiveness, all this is a part of life. Letting negative emotions consume you however, that's when you begin to lose control, to become corrupted.
The Nightsisters actually worshipped the Mortis Gods, and they had the best view on the Force, as well as Balance. It's why, unlike Sith, the Nightsisters used darker aspects of the Force, but didn't actually use the Dark Side. If anything, one could argue they were too conservative with what they had. The complete opposite of the insane greed of the sith. They all remained on Dathomir, making it easy to wipe their people out (for the most part). I get why they stayed, but it was the one mistake they made that doomed them... but that's another conversation altogether.
The "Light" Side isn't a thing, its simply what it was called after the Dark Side became a thing. The Son's whole ARC on Mortis was him falling to the Dark Side... so many fans have misunderstood this ARC, its insane;
Also, more Jedi than Sith isn't a bad thing. Balance isn't a numbers game with the force like so many believe.
Balance is the Dark Side being extinguished, and the light being the OG balancing force. To reiterate, the Son of Mortis was never a master of the Dark Side, his entire story ARC was literally about him falling to the Dark, to Corruption, in the end.
Having thousands of Jedi wasn't the issue. The way their Order was set up and functioned was the issue. The "False Light" of their Order was the issue. Anakin didn't have to slaughter their kind off to achieve balance, a reformation of the Order would've worked as well... just would've taken longer. Wiping the slate clean by annihilation of the Order and the Sith was just a more cut and dry method of doing it. Inner peace, anger, passion, etc is all important, but letting your negative emotions corrupt you... THAT is why the Dark Side is unnatural.
Thousands of true Jedi is ideal, thousands of Sus, blinded Jedi is what the problem was. As for the Son, he was the hunter, the strength, the passion, the anger of nature. He wasn't a master of the Dark Side, otherwise his Arc would've been VERY different. He let his greed get the better of him, his emotions and list for power went out beyond his due once Anakin arrived. He saw he was wrong in the end, but with the Father and Daughter dead/dying, he likely would've been consumed by guilt, and once again fallen to the Dark. So, that's why unfortunately, Anakin still had to kill him. Someone that OP in the Force, falling to the Dark, would make even Palpatine look like a joke.
Agreed. The way I interpreted it was the Father mistaking what balance was and thought it was Yin and Yang. He tried to tame the darkside like with the light, but that's impossible. It leads to darkside taking over everything.
Anakin corrects that mistake by killing the darkside, and embracing the light at the end of the arc.
This doesn’t feel quite right the way I see it there the Force is very much like the idea of yin and yang, but both the ying and the yang are part of the same whole.
Therefore to say the dark side is simply a corruption of the force I feel is incorrect, look at the night sisters would you call the way they utilized it corrupt ?
I think when destructive power is needed we have the the dark side the destroyer the son, and when we need to breathe life into a place, grow mature nurture we have the daughter.
The father is the whole.
I think it’s pretty awesome if Anikan becomes the father so to speak would definitely make me pick up Ashoka
People like to think of The Force as a circle split down the middle with one side being "Light" and the other one "Dark", but in reality it's more like a circle with a smaller circle inside of it, the larger one being "The Force" and the smaller one being "The Dark Side".
I agree with this point. The Son had an affinity for the Dark, the Daughter for the Light. Both had both inside them, and like the Bendu the Father was the One in the Middle. The Mortis Arc was supposed to symbolize the Dark becoming ascendant, and the Son was pushed to it by his own affinity for it. This led the Daughter to make the Dark choice to kill him, giving Obi-Wan the Dagger of Mortis to kill the Son. This backlashed and led to her own death when he stabbed her, and the Son recoiled as the Light feelings of love he had for his sister led to the Father sacrificing himself and both dying. The Ones weren't controlling the force, they were manifestations of it. As it imbalanced, they became imbalanced, which led to the darkside feedback loop
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The Dark Side corrupts. It's OK to have anger, to have passion, to have emotions, but the point is to not let it consume you.
Letting the Darkness consume you is what leads to unbalance. The Son was the more aggressive, assertive half, but that doesn't make him evil
Your knowledge of the lore is unrivaled. This was a great video.
I think Ezra has a natural talent of using the dark side yet he is not evil. Like the Son was use to be. The Son isn’t a Sith. He isn’t meant to be evil because the sith tries to corrupt the force and use to their advantage. Dark side isn’t a tool for the sith it is a part of natural order.
Love this theory and it satisfies anakins plot finally
I think the new manifestation of the son has potential to be Shin Hati. She has a chaotic dark side style that reminds me of the son. She’s so off the walls even Baylen is a little taken aback even though they are both dark side users.
They wouldn't put such a new character in such a pivotal lore role
@@vmpere2637 Still a better choice than Starkiller, which isnt even canon. I think it could be baylon because his role is calling to him to restore. Baylon and Ashoka is both not purely light/dark but are wise about both sides. Perfect balance
@@MadsOwnedByBonzo who said anything about starkiller lol
@@vmpere2637 just alot of people want him canon which make no real sense
Not be technical here, but I don't think Baylan is a dark side user per se. By that I mean he is not consumed by it. He understands and values it's power, but he knows his limits.
I think because anakin (who killed the son), lived as both skywalker and Vader he takes the place of both father and son. He was an apprentice to Sidious and the Jedi Order, therefore lived a balanced life and balance’s the force. He also raised Ashoka who imbodies the daughter
One major problem = George was very clear that true "balance in the Force" is the complete absence of the dark side.
of the sith, not the darkside, the darkside is natural
George isn't in the game anymore bud.
@@splashnskillz37 George himself described the darkside as a cancer, it isn't natural in the slightest. The Force represents the cycle of life from birth to death and finally rebirth, the darkside is the disruption of this cycle, it's unnecessary death and suffering, there's nothing about the darkside that makes it necessary to exist which is why Anakin only dies after killing the last Sith lord and giving the galaxy the opportunity to recover from the misery Palpatine put them through
@@takeo_624 what isn't natural is the sith's use of the darkside, the darkside itself is natural
@@splashnskillz37 saying that the darkside is natural but the sith aren't is the same as saying that cancer is a natural thing for our body to develop but dying from it isn't. This distinction you're trying to make isn't real and people will often point to the Mortis arc as proof of it being true when what the episodes say is the exact opposite, the Son wasn't a manifestation of the darkside, just half of the cycle of death and rebirth that is the Force, he falls AFTER Anakin arrives because he finds out about Vader and gets tempted by all that power which leads him to becoming stronger than the Daughter and the death of all three of the Mortis gods and this is a theme among every group or society of Force users in the story, the Zeffo from Fallen Order are driven to near extinction after some of them fall to the darkside, the Witches of Dathomir are slave masters that betray everyone that aren't one of the Sisters which also lead them to be driven near extinction, a lot of Jedi and people around them die every time one of them fall to the darkside, first with Dooku, then at least two more times during the Clone Wars and finally almost all of them are killed when Anakin falls, the Sith themselves are only forced to adopt the Rule of Two because big groups always led to infighting and betrayals, the darkside IS the entire problem but this doesn't mean that a Jedi can't be angry or scared, that's not what the darkside is (which is what the Jedi Order forgot), it just means the Jedi cannot let those feelings control them, they don't need to suppress their fear, they need to find the courage to confront it, they don't need to suppress their anger but find the kindness to forgive whoever made them angry and they don't need to suppress their sadness but find reasons to be happy despite that, THIS is balance, failing to do any of this and giving into those negative feelings leads to corruption and the darkside.
As a fun fact I took this three examples from actual scenes in the story, the first and second are from Yoda at the end of CW season 6 and, obviously, Luke at the end of RotJ but the third I actually took from the Kenobi show during his final fight against Vader so even Disney SW is still adhering to this concept. Another example of fear being overcome is Ahsoka in the WBW, Anakin isn't using the darkside, he's reflecting Ahsoka's fears and traumas, symbolized by her eyes glowing orange when the red saber reflects on them and, since she's able to overcome that trial and therefore her own darkness, immediately after that she changes from the grey clothes (mix of black/darkness and white/light) to white clothes to show that she's now at peace with herself and Anakin or in other words, in balance
Sounds like a good game concept as a secret boss that’s unbeatable
The Mother was forsaken and locked away in a Galaxy far from her family.
But now Aboleth rises! The Mother has lost everything, and she is coming.
That's really good. Are you sure Filoni and his Disney can be that creative?
@@treadlightly76 can Disney be that creative? No, for sure not.
But, I have faith in Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni. Dave Filoni brought back The Mortis Gods without mention of The Mother.
And yet, we have a group called Night Sister, whose leader is a Night Mother. Seems very much like Night Sister Magic is a corrupted version of The Force and would fit pretty well with Aboleth.
Especially, if we are getting a story of Anakin as a new Mortis God. If Aboleth still exists, Anakin killed her family in Clone Wars.
I think you're onto something. Guess we're not going home to rethink our lives after all.
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I love this theory for Anakin.
Would that make Yoda, Obi-Wan and/or Qui-gon the new Force Priests? Since they taught others to become force ghosts
I like this theory a lot, and I think it just makes too much sense. I think it also addresses the issue of "balance" in the Force, which is something people have debated endlessly about.
Here's my take: I don't think "light and darkness" are akin to the "light side/Jedi" and the "dark side/Sith". Without institutions like the Sith and the Jedi Order, light and darkness "just is." There is no corruption attached.
So the way I interpret the Mortis arc is that light and darkness are the natural order and aren't corrupt in and of themselves. The Father even explains this to Anakin when he's explaining their history: He says that "too much dark or light would be the undoing of life as you understand it." Balance, according to Mortis and The Father, is a "balance" between light and darkness, between creation and destruction. Not necessarily even-keel, but one cannot exist in harmony without the other. And as I mentioned before, he also said that organized factions, like the Sith, have corrupted their power and natural order. And based on what he said, the same thing can probably be said about the Jedi Order, especially in relation to the High Republic and its corruption of the light.
The only reason The Son was corrupted by the "dark side" (again, not the same as "darkness" on its own) was because of Anakin's arrival and the burden of knowing Anakin's future. He allowed his vision to corrupt him. But had Anakin never arrived, he, his father, and his sister would have continued to live in their natural state. And also, not many people notice this... but The Daughter was also corrupted in that episode. Her selflessness compelled her to show Obi-Wan where the dagger was to control her brother. Had they not retrieved the dagger, the events wouldn't have played out the way they did. No one dies.
So I do believe that for there to be true "balance," darkness and light both have to exist, even if the scales aren't exaclty even. Anakin embodies that, and him embodying The Father would fulfill his destiny as The Chosen One per the definition set by The Father. And given that Ahsoka already canonically embodies The Daughter, it would make perfect, poetic sense for Galen Marek to embody The Son. Because even though both of them would be the embodiment of light and dark, that doesn't mean they're corruptible. Ahsoka left The Order, and Marek left the Sith; and in turn, they let go of their corruption and forged their own path. And they're connected to each other through Anakin, The Father, as his two apprentices: one light, one dark.
I'd say that's about as close as Filoni could get to embodying The Mortis gods in the flesh.
The mortis gods ark was the best in any tv show
Bit of a stretch
@@Tanaaaaahuge stretch.
Imagine dying, then meeting god and he's the guy who killed your family for no reason.
I actually really like this theory, and with most of the other theories i have seen online, it is probably my favorite and most realistic in my opinion. It could be a bit of a stretch to assume this new show would reach that deep in the lore, but at this point I am just hoping that there is not another last Jedi moment where they just destroy one of the most important characters in the entire series.
Only our imagination can give us a glimpse on what we could have gotten, if Lucas made his Sequels.
He literally said they were going to be about the force. I think it would have been about Luke's new Jedi order and the knights of ren. Maybe in the End Anakin could have taken his place as the father and bring balance, wirh Ahsoka as the light and kylo ren (he is Anakins grandson) as the dark.
I was hoping for marrok to be starkiller so he could be a candidate for the son, Ashoka gained by anakin, starkiller by Vader
We know what "Balance" meant, Lucas told us, and it doesn't mean blending the Light and Dark sides together. There are numerous examples throughout history that show what a disaster that was, with the only exception being Darth Vectivus, because he seldom delved deeply into the Dark side, and he never did so for selfish reasons. He probably would have been an exceptional Jedi, if he could have found one to teach him.
As much as i would hate Ezra to be turned, this theory still makes sense which means Ezra as the son is plausible. But where would the series go from here if now we are dealing with three family celestials? There is a lot more story telling with the other characters though, like Jacen, the ghost crew, Kanan's Lothal wolf life force, Sabine, and so much more
Holy heck that thumbnail alone deserves a save.
Great theory - I'm not sure the Son is locked in yet. Either way, I don' t think all this will happen in this season though. I think this season is about Ahsoka on her way to be the White. I think this is more of a longer term theory. Dave always ties things up, just not right away.
The theory is an insane one. But, I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't the situation as I don't feel any director would have this depth.
It's Baylan. Baylan wants to be the Son.
This would be the best thing ever I would actually love this
Shouldn't Galen Marek aka Starkiller be the Son?
Amazing work I really hope this is the case sounds near perfect
We also don't see Ahsoka or Ezra or have any mention of them in the sequels which I think is really weird considering they'd both be extremely powerful jedi and could've taken out the first order alone
Used to watch your Game of thrones videos, great to be back watching your Ashoka videos. Your an excellent curator.
Ezra doesn't really make sense as the son, just like he didn't as Marrock. Ezra made his allegiance clear, he struggled with the dark side in Rebels but he eventually rejected it
I don't think he really rejects it. He rejects the way the darkside is used by the most. But its just how a person will use it. Right now he is 10 years without Kenan and the others. In that time he has chanced a lot. He even found a new fightingstyle without a lightsaber if you believe his character description. Just like the lightside of the force isn't all good, the darkside is the same. I see Ezra find a way to get that balance. Ezra is always pulled on by the darkside, but is known to fight and defeat the temptations of the darkside. Something no one else was able to do for we know
Ummm… Revan? Jedi turned Sith Lord, turned Jedi, once again? The only one to defeat the dark side within himself, and be redeemed to the Force.
Until Anakin, that is.
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@@proper7439 my reply was to @chtal64147, over the last few sentences of his comment about Ezra and the Dark Side.
@@richarddeckard9804 oh ok
I like this theory but have no faith that Disney would put in something that complicated especially since it requires the knowledge of previous shows
This is what I been saying for a while now. Anakin took up the mantle of the father.
I'm not sure about the Ezra part, but I love this whole theory. Cool idea.
What if the son is Baylon skoll?? After the finale I’m leaning towards this!! Or if not the son, baylon has an important role
I always love that bit were the Father just grabs Anakin's lightsaber with his bare hand and deactivates. That's the mother(no pun intended) of all flexes.
That is a good point, Anakin has walked both sides and would allow him to be better mediate between both.
As for the daughter and son replacements, Ahsoka and Starkiller have had some of the closest attachments to Anakin while he was alive.
I think out of all the Star Wars ahsoka theory videos… this makes the most sense 😊
I prefer this Theory than whatever letdown Disney will release.
What an exciting theory! Love it.
It’s not Ezra. The Son maybe someone else but not Ezra.
2:00 also this is most likely why studious and Vader were so strong there weren’t meny dark side users left as the Jedi had done their job so well, also this is why Luke was so strong by wiping out so meny light side force users in such a short time the force focused on the few light side users left and pumped added strength into them in a effete to restore the balance.
I want to see Darth sideous come through the veil of the force in the world between worlds looking for a way to immortality and be truly shocked to find anakin there as the embodiment of the force and have them duel and sideous just gets his ass handed to him and is destroyed by Anakin.
I just can't get over how phenomenal this all sounds!
Actually; I think Maul may represent the Son, as he has been killed before; yet he still comes back. I think Anakin will pull Maul from his moment of death on Tatooine, and give him the Son’s powers
Nightsister magic saved Maul
Seriously ? Anakin will pull Maul from his death on tatooine ? Even sequels made more sense than this
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If this is what the story is - thats pretty cool and ties animated to live action - Interesting theory
Whilst I'm sure Filoni would appreciate this theory...can you imagine trying to explain it all to viewers who aren't familiar with the depth of SW lore as you are? 😂🤦🏽♂️
Yes, great, great, great theory👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾. Because this is what I said on a different channel in a roundaboutway, and people were like "there's no way" I said "you clearly didn't watch clone wars"
Well done!!!
It’s titles like this that always tend to age like milk. As cool as it would be for this to be true, I can almost guarantee you it ain’t happening.
I’m willing to take the risk. Love Star Wars, I love to theorize.
@@TheStupendousWavelol Marrok. Good theory tho
this theory sounds awesome
Just a random thought. What if Baylan AND Marrok = Galen Marrek (somehow with B also sorta being Joruus), and Shin will become the new dark side balance, since the name can mean "belief, faith, trust, new, true, or God; depending on which culture pulled from. The surnames, Skoll and Hati, origin could be assumed and not given, to reflect some chosen path based off some myth or maybe spiritual-Loth wolf name similar to our Nordic myths. Using the Marrok parallels to our mythology and his interpretation, I can't help but shake the wolf symbolism between the three still means something. If any of that makes sense.
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I really love this theory dude. Being the manga and anime fan that I am, it kinda reminds me of Madara Uchiha, Obito Uchiha and Sasuke Uchiha. In the end, they represent the darkness and the light, with Sasuke being in the middle like Anakin. Just my opinion lol
Anakin isnt the chosen one. Luke is. This is cannon. Lucas has said it numerous times over the last 25 years. Still, its not a bad take. Anakin as the Father.
George said it himself anakin is the chosen one and Luke is the catalyst that caused him to fulfil the prophecy
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Tell me without telling me you never actually knew anything about what George Lucas has said. So congratulations on projecting🤡🙃☠️
hmm, then the Skywalker twin is nobody now, Awesome!!