woah there, that's one hell of a steep re entry angle. Normally the shuttle would have bled off the vast majority of its speed in the upper atmosphere, roughly the 40 km range in kip, to allow themselves to avoid overheating and to precisely line up with the runway
Just a few notes for next time. The shuttle is completely empty of fuel for the most part when returning. they use parachutes to slow down. The cargo bay doors only open in space because they are thin and can't handle the force of their own weight while in earths gravity. To open them in the hangar when being loaded they use a special jig that attaches to multiple points so that the doors aren't broken.
Also the approach attitude of the orbital vehicle is incorrect as well. Only the lower surface of the vehicle is directly attached to the reentry air stream. And the bow shock wave on the lower nose cone of the vehicle directs all of the heated air away from the upper face and forward windows of the Shuttle.
@Phaint its momentarily, I read somewhere, that biggest number any human experienced is around 250G. This is reached by F1 driver who crashed. He didnt had any disfunctions becouse of this. In terms of longer exposure, like burning engine, 5G can be bad for average human, ofc not for some1, who learn how to deal with it :)
real astronauts -dead kerbin astronauts- thug life ask why coz first of all almost all the items in ksp are re entry safe for a higher limit and aslo that you should re enter on the belly of ur shuttle
I congratulate you, friend ... you have done quite well ... it is a good approach, ... surely you will continue to improve. Maybe someday we'll shake hands ... a dear hug.
Not in the case of the space shuttle! The principle you describe is called an ablative heat shield, used in vehicles such as Apollo, Soyuz and other expendable capsules, which basically evaporates so that heat is moved away. On the other hand, the shuttle uses the thermal protection tiles which are made to be a) very temperature resistant so they can handle the heat of reentry by themselves, b) very bad at conducting heat, so the energy brought in won't reach the inner skin of the orbiter, and c) to radiate away the heat (which is why the tiles on the orbiter's underside are black)
The Shuttle should keep a high angle of attack while until slowing down to a safe threshold, never exposing unprotected parts to the hot plasma like seen in the video. You were still doing Mach 10+ as low as 8,000m (~22,0000 ft) in dense atmosphere, which is certainly well above the Shuttle's operational limits. Also, the Shuttle landing procedure is unpowered.
not all the surface was gonna get touched by the plasma. and that is NOT the American shuttle :P the video says "a shuttle" not "in the american shuttle" XP
I think the unrealistic thing here is that the kerbals are speaking to mission control while re-entering, there should be a "Radio blackout" during that time, but im sure the viewers would be bored without any sort of sound besides re-entry heat so i give back 1 point.
This showed a straight on approach all the way through reentry which is not accurate. The vehicle had to perform a series of steep S-shaped banking turns, each lasting several minutes, at up to 70 degrees of bank, while still maintaining a 40-degree angle of attack to dissipate speed (and also reduce reentry heating) - from mach 25 down to 215 mph at touchdown.
It doesn’t always keep a 40 degree angle of attack, the turning is to slow and drop altitude while the angle of attack help keep a constant speed, higher angle = more bleed lower angle = less bleed
How can you still be burning up in re entry and almost scraping the top of the mountains?! This fool went straight in, nose pitched down on a re-entry. That shit would burned a joke a seconds after such stupidity. This was funny af.
Everyone whinging about how this "isn't how it works in real life"... needs to re-evaluate said life. This is a game in which you build spacecraft to send little green aliens from a fictional planet on journeys around a fictional solar system... Of course it isn't like real life! Kerbin (the fictional planet of the Kerbals) is way smaller than Earth, but seems to have similar mass, so gravity works the same, the Mun (Kerbin's largest moon) is only about three Kerbin diameters away too... it's a GAME, designed to be fun... if it was like real life then it wouldn't be fun... all your spacecraft would crash and all your Kerbals would die because the only people capable of playing it properly would be those working in Aerospace companies for real...
I do a lot of space planes, taking up cargo to my space station and when reentering from like 300,000 km I usually keep my reentry corridor around 35,000 km to 40,000 km, and I’m usually upside with the nose pointing the planet and the belly of the jet exposed.
Its ksp, why are you all mad about the shuttle re entry being wrong? This is a game where crew can easily survive 50g re entries and parts gan take direct re entry heating.
What A real shuttle did for Reentry: A Space shuttles Reentry was really different then this, the first thing is that the shuttle would be tilted to 85- 80 degrees so it would only expose the heat shields on the bottom of the shuttle. As soon as the Reentry starts getting cooler, the shuttle would tilt to about 45 -40 degrees. It would then glide through the atmosphere till it started approaching the space center. It would then start gliding down to the runway and then touchdown on the runway. Finally, it would deploy parachutes on the back of the shuttle so it would slow it down to no velocity at all. The crew would then be recovered out of the shuttle.
the shuttle would not be tilted 85 degrees for reentry. they would land in mexico or the pacific instead if that were the case. they reentered with a 40 degree aoa. then when its done it'll just pitch down a bit and glide.
Chemiegamer Peter I understand that but with it being a space flight simulator game that was made by Squad you would think they would be a bit more accurate with the mathematics. Just my opinion.
@@mrbuddygene The Planet in ksp dont represent the earth. Its actually 600k meters in diameter. Its still a very accurate game but with its own physics. You can calculate every little maneuver manually with formulas, made specific for the game
This was the funniest shit I've seen all day. Angle of attack on re-entry was dreadful, the nose should have burned right off in the first minute! LOL. No rolls to control re-entry temperature on the wings. This was awesome. LOL
I was on a helicopter at about 125k feet and we saw a shuttle come through the atmosphere. It got red hot but the upper atmosphere was soo cold it cooled down
And why are the upper layers cooler (brizzzz), since they are the first to receive the rays? Even at the re-entry, the satellites or rocket remains descend on fire; so this was supposed to happen also with the infamous sun rays ... but not.😇 Is the heat down here having more to do with electromagnetic reactions involving the surface x rays, than the emissions from a "big furnace" suspended over our heads ...
I know very little about this type of thing, but still I have to wonder, shouldn't the shuttle be angled so the thermal protection shield takes the brunt of the heat?
Yes, I noticed in this video that he neglected to keep an aerobrake trajectory so that the heat shield could take the majority of the heat while at the same time landing on target, the real shuttle on reentry actually had a series of bank maneuvers but that is real complicated and I only do that for RSS.
Angle of attack is well too steep, cockpit begins to fry, it can be seen. In reality the orbiter would disintegrate before crew members could feel rising temperature. Besides of that, how can you fire SSMEs without ET ? Where do you get the fuel and oxidizer from ? And why would you do that, considering the airspeed is still high enough to ionize the air.
Kkkkkkkkk se fosse assim, o ônibus espacial entraria na atmosfera em pedaços! Nunca um ônibus espacial vai entrar na atmosfera com a ponta do bico encrinado para baixo!
woah there, that's one hell of a steep re entry angle. Normally the shuttle would have bled off the vast majority of its speed in the upper atmosphere, roughly the 40 km range in kip, to allow themselves to avoid overheating and to precisely line up with the runway
this is ksp, where you can survive the steepest of re entrys
@Appa ye Eve is a pretty pressure hell
please , It's a game
Just a few notes for next time. The shuttle is completely empty of fuel for the most part when returning. they use parachutes to slow down. The cargo bay doors only open in space because they are thin and can't handle the force of their own weight while in earths gravity. To open them in the hangar when being loaded they use a special jig that attaches to multiple points so that the doors aren't broken.
Eric Gentry but, it ksp
Also the approach attitude of the orbital vehicle is incorrect as well. Only the lower surface of the vehicle is directly attached to the reentry air stream. And the bow shock wave on the lower nose cone of the vehicle directs all of the heated air away from the upper face and forward windows of the Shuttle.
Umm it’s Ksp idiot.
@@joebama2888 Yeah but it's clearly a replication of the original shuttle mission.
And also: the shuttle never flew nukes to orbit or flew around kerbin
Fun fact: The space shuttle is a brick with wings
🤣🤣
Why does everyone keep watching that damn video
so you watched how to land the space shuttle by Steve F whatever the hell was his surname
@@olegpetrovic i watched it before this video
With engines
Damn. That shuttle had a very bad day..
Everyone talking like he’s trying to recreate an actual shuttle landing
But he’s just showing us how he lands his own shuttle
Not the best angle to reenter the atmosphere tbh
Definitely. With you on that one.
U Hu hjj
But remember, this is ksp
Eaten By Black Hole is right
MyHobbyIsFishing Yeah shouldn’t the angle during reentry be nose up?
It's good to see that noble goals, such as the militarization of space with nukes, is a game option.
Don’t be a douche
Those are some tall ass mountains
A Buran and Space shuttle mix! lovely!
„For a brick, he flew pretty good“
Nice job on stealing a joke
@@Sjedtm you sound like a brick too
5g reentry burn. welcome to ksp :D
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5gs for that long would've torn your face off 😂😂
@Phaint R/woosh
@Phaint its momentarily, I read somewhere, that biggest number any human experienced is around 250G. This is reached by F1 driver who crashed. He didnt had any disfunctions becouse of this.
In terms of longer exposure, like burning engine, 5G can be bad for average human, ofc not for some1, who learn how to deal with it :)
i like how you activated the main engines totally caught me off guard
Never re-entry head first in a shuttle you’ll end up like Columbia man
True
@@kaedanthegamer9245 yeah
also. going in head first was the problem, it was a piece of the fuel tank hitting the left-wing and damaging it
@@kaedanthegamer9245 I said that in my comment
@@woob_wob2 maybe you said that in a different comment?
That ride has to be exciting beyond description !
Someone should do a KSP video with First Man soundtracks... that would be perfect.
This is the strangest re entry but I gotta say it was very unique and I liked it
why are there so many purists in the comments? it's in KSP which means a lot of things will be different than what the shuttle actually did.
I remember being so amazed by this game when I was younger and I wanted to play it
This is anything but a shuttle's reentry and landing
According to KSP it is; to accomplish this is quite a feat.
Pretty good for ksp
theres klingons on the starboard bow,scotty beam me up lol...nice presentation
i never gonna stop watching this
real astronauts -dead
kerbin astronauts- thug life
ask why coz first of all almost all the items in ksp are re entry safe for a higher limit and aslo that you should re enter on the belly of ur shuttle
R/ihadastork
I congratulate you, friend ... you have done quite well ... it is a good approach, ... surely you will continue to improve. Maybe someday we'll shake hands ... a dear hug.
Ridicule
With that angle of re entry the crew members should have been cooked lol
The re entry sounds like when your up close to a roller coaster
Good Landing! Very well flown!
Not really, his reentry angle was too steep. Never go nose first during reentry, you leave that job for the heat shields
It is a crystal of modern science. great.
Amazing how latent heat protect the vehicle by sacrificing the tiles.
Not in the case of the space shuttle! The principle you describe is called an ablative heat shield, used in vehicles such as Apollo, Soyuz and other expendable capsules, which basically evaporates so that heat is moved away. On the other hand, the shuttle uses the thermal protection tiles which are made to be a) very temperature resistant so they can handle the heat of reentry by themselves, b) very bad at conducting heat, so the energy brought in won't reach the inner skin of the orbiter, and c) to radiate away the heat (which is why the tiles on the orbiter's underside are black)
The Shuttle should keep a high angle of attack while until slowing down to a safe threshold, never exposing unprotected parts to the hot plasma like seen in the video. You were still doing Mach 10+ as low as 8,000m (~22,0000 ft) in dense atmosphere, which is certainly well above the Shuttle's operational limits. Also, the Shuttle landing procedure is unpowered.
GeoSciful well this ain’t real life sorry
not all the surface was gonna get touched by the plasma.
and that is NOT the American shuttle :P
the video says "a shuttle" not "in the american shuttle" XP
Duh... Its a fun sandbox game with Kerbalnauts, not a goddamn CFD analysis tool.
In hard mode, that shuttle would have disintegrated
Congratulations!, welcome back to earth!
ITS NOT EARTH IT KERBIN
You got balls with that kind of re-entry. I was waiting for wings to fly off.
I think the unrealistic thing here is that the kerbals are speaking to mission control while re-entering, there should be a "Radio blackout" during that time, but im sure the viewers would be bored without any sort of sound besides re-entry heat so i give back 1 point.
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The perfect video of a space shuttle reentry
No. With that angle of attack the Shuttle would melt.
Its Amazing they survive
great maneuver on final approach
I think the altitude indicator was on the fritz.
While in space they seemed to be well under 100,000 feet.
@@jpthepug3126 Meters
This showed a straight on approach all the way through reentry which is not accurate. The vehicle had to perform a series of steep S-shaped banking turns, each lasting several minutes, at up to 70 degrees of bank, while still maintaining a 40-degree angle of attack to dissipate speed (and also reduce reentry heating) - from mach 25 down to 215 mph at touchdown.
Billy Z if u do that in KSP you will awaken the kraken
It doesn’t always keep a 40 degree angle of attack, the turning is to slow and drop altitude while the angle of attack help keep a constant speed, higher angle = more bleed lower angle = less bleed
ksp isn’t accurate smartass
Only one thing: this shuttle is missing its parachute that opens up at the back when it lands
How can you still be burning up in re entry and almost scraping the top of the mountains?! This fool went straight in, nose pitched down on a re-entry. That shit would burned a joke a seconds after such stupidity. This was funny af.
I saw a very simillar video to this one, except the shuttle exploaded into tiny bits
uhh
_culumbia_
I wish SpaceX could develop a dependable upgraded safe rocket design to bring back the space shuttle program
6:44, great job lining up
This Looks like the Buran
Everyone whinging about how this "isn't how it works in real life"... needs to re-evaluate said life.
This is a game in which you build spacecraft to send little green aliens from a fictional planet on journeys around a fictional solar system...
Of course it isn't like real life!
Kerbin (the fictional planet of the Kerbals) is way smaller than Earth, but seems to have similar mass, so gravity works the same, the Mun (Kerbin's largest moon) is only about three Kerbin diameters away too... it's a GAME, designed to be fun... if it was like real life then it wouldn't be fun... all your spacecraft would crash and all your Kerbals would die because the only people capable of playing it properly would be those working in Aerospace companies for real...
No
Nicely said
no rp-1 and ro no fun
The sound of the engine is similar to the sound of flushing in the toilet of an airplane
I do a lot of space planes, taking up cargo to my space station and when reentering from like 300,000 km I usually keep my reentry corridor around 35,000 km to 40,000 km, and I’m usually upside with the nose pointing the planet and the belly of the jet exposed.
km or feet?
Its ksp, why are you all mad about the shuttle re entry being wrong? This is a game where crew can easily survive 50g re entries and parts gan take direct re entry heating.
yeah and they keep comparing earth to kerbin when kerbin is literally smaller to make everything easier
Great! Now, make a model of the shuttle coming in sideways and you'll have the perfect model of how Columbia went down
XD
What A real shuttle did for Reentry:
A Space shuttles Reentry was really different then this, the first thing is that the shuttle would be tilted to 85- 80 degrees so it would only expose the heat shields on the bottom of the shuttle. As soon as the Reentry starts getting cooler, the shuttle would tilt to about 45 -40 degrees. It would then glide through the atmosphere till it started approaching the space center. It would then start gliding down to the runway and then touchdown on the runway. Finally, it would deploy parachutes on the back of the shuttle so it would slow it down to no velocity at all. The crew would then be recovered out of the shuttle.
the shuttle would not be tilted 85 degrees for reentry. they would land in mexico or the pacific instead if that were the case. they reentered with a 40 degree aoa. then when its done it'll just pitch down a bit and glide.
I like this game a lot it's just that you should use a parachute for the landing
You're right; he shouldn't have got away with this without one.
Too slow to need a parachute
いつものばまんゲームスの実況しか観てないから、真面目にやるとこんなに本格的だということを初めて知った
The very first ksp video i watched, it was in february 2019
i watched this while listening to gravity music..
mainly the Shenzou track
Que coño ? Es lo mas irreal que he visto en un simulador 😂 pero no deja de ser interesante 👍🏻saludos.
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Kerbin(the home planet in the game) has a diameter of 600km and not 12000km. It's NOT THE FOOKIN EARTH
yeah people keep comparing earth to kerbin
next try a Vertical Entry and Landing to KSC
Kennedy Space Center or Kebral Space Center?
@@justmatt.8010 kerbal space center, duh
@@justmatt.8010 kennedy spacer center doesn't exist on kerbal space program.
I watched in an animation and found out that it is supposed to re-enter with The nose up & the aft fuselage down
Rolling the orbiter is going to get you in fired. ;-)
It’s supposed to be a 40 degree angle so the shuttle won’t melt. What I’m saying is the shuttle can’t handle that much heat
Discovery fly in furnace???
Wow Shuttle Is Very Iconning to Atlantis
Bud the space shuttle uses the heat shields at the nose cone and bottom of the shuttle you can’t just nose dive at your target
Whoa.....awesome no doubt
Now the kerbals are dead due to burning
The altitude is way off on the re-entry burn, it needs to be a lot higher. Needs to start at least 80k meters (265k ft).
This ist ksp not reality
Chemiegamer Peter I understand that but with it being a space flight simulator game that was made by Squad you would think they would be a bit more accurate with the mathematics. Just my opinion.
@@mrbuddygene The Planet in ksp dont represent the earth. Its actually 600k meters in diameter. Its still a very accurate game but with its own physics. You can calculate every little maneuver manually with formulas, made specific for the game
Chemiegamer Peter it’s all good! Like I said, it’s just my opinion.
@@mrbuddygene the engine couldn’t handle a planet that big
Looks like a mix of the Space Shuttle and Buran
It's funny space flight simulator has reentry update and I bet Kerbal space program players are furious
Ksp already has reentry physhics for a long tome
no?
This was the funniest shit I've seen all day. Angle of attack on re-entry was dreadful, the nose should have burned right off in the first minute! LOL. No rolls to control re-entry temperature on the wings. This was awesome. LOL
its ksp dude,not real life
Nice design, wrong angle of attack.
驾驶航天飞机要比驾驶飞机难多了，这一步成型，真的好厉害。
That reentry angle wouldn't work out at all in real life...
This is not how a Shuttle reentry earth but was fun anyway.
earth? this is kerbin not earth
Easily the most accurate shuttle reentry ever performed.
Yeah, and it’s also a game with cartoony aliens as pilots, who gives a shit?
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bro what the hell were those mountains
A what happens to the upside down move it suppose to enter
Fishy
Enrique Casiano Sir, You are correct. Space shuttle re entry into the orbit is always upside down position I think.
With those jet engines it becomes a weird Buran/Shuttle hybrid abomination
those are rocket engines
@@danzstuff 2 years ago i was referring to the 4 whiplash jet engines mounted on the nacelles
if you know bout spaceflight, you allso know that that shuttle had to explode mid-air because everyting is wrong with it.
00:24 RIP ears n heart.
pretty cool.
So wonderful.
That ain't no space shuttle
It's an space buran
How many of yall been to space?
I was on a helicopter at about 125k feet and we saw a shuttle come through the atmosphere. It got red hot but the upper atmosphere was soo cold it cooled down
It looks like the buran, what uses a jet engines to land
Fun fact: a fun fact isnt really a fun fact
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What???? R...Re-ignition？？？
and thrust reverse
r??????
????????? this is a game
So?
i cant even get past the karman line
And why are the upper layers cooler (brizzzz), since they are the first to receive the rays?
Even at the re-entry, the satellites or rocket remains descend on fire; so this was supposed to happen also with the infamous sun rays ... but not.😇
Is the heat down here having more to do with electromagnetic reactions involving the surface x rays, than the emissions from a "big furnace" suspended over our heads ...
why is there an a320 pfd in this space shuttle????
All the videos of live shuttle landing I've never seen the shuttle did this
You would save weight by taking off the jet engines and it would be better to enter at a 40 degree angle of attack because you take off more speed.
I know very little about this type of thing, but still I have to wonder, shouldn't the shuttle be angled so the thermal protection shield takes the brunt of the heat?
Yes, I noticed in this video that he neglected to keep an aerobrake trajectory so that the heat shield could take the majority of the heat while at the same time landing on target, the real shuttle on reentry actually had a series of bank maneuvers but that is real complicated and I only do that for RSS.
Man used cheats to orbit on kerbin
how in the name of god did this get to orbit without angled engines
Jack 5 because Kraken will kill you for using inclined
@@penapvp2230 thats not true
Angle of attack is well too steep, cockpit begins to fry, it can be seen. In reality the orbiter would disintegrate before crew members could feel rising temperature. Besides of that, how can you fire SSMEs without ET ? Where do you get the fuel and oxidizer from ? And why would you do that, considering the airspeed is still high enough to ionize the air.
where is the parachute brake?
Kkkkkkkkk se fosse assim, o ônibus espacial entraria na atmosfera em pedaços! Nunca um ônibus espacial vai entrar na atmosfera com a ponta do bico encrinado para baixo!
Vc viu que ele tem 4 turbinas de ciclo atmosférico?
40° ALPHA
Pegaria fogo nessa velocidade
que bom que não é a vida real
2:29
We're you trying to remake the Columbia Disaster?
you forgot the parachute!