Are Trans Athletes Cheating?
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- Опубликовано: 1 ноя 2023
- Welcome to our pilot episode for Assumptions where we have Trans Athletes confront assumptions about gender Identity in athletics. Come back in two weeks for our episode on Asexuals!
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0:25 TRANS WOMEN HAVE A BIOLOGICAL ADVANTAGE OVER CIS WOMEN
4:29 THERE SHOULD BE A 3RD CATEGORY FOR TRANS PEOPLE TO COMPETE IN
11:51 TRANS WOMEN HAVE HIGHER TESTOSTERONE THAN CIS WOMEN
14:32 A MESSAGE FROM ANTHONY
16:02 TRANS WOMEN HAVE HIGHER TESTOSTERONE THAN CIS WOMEN (CONT)
21:55 PEOPLE TRANSITION STRICTLY TO DOMINATE AT SPORTS
27:11 THESE ISSUES DON'T APPLY TO TRANS MEN ATHLETES
29:12 TRANS PEOPLE WON'T STOP MAKING SPORTS POLITICAL
I would LOVE to see people with chronic pain. As a chronic pain suffers hearing people talk together would be great.
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I would love to see an episode on Indigenous people. First Nations people, no matter what country, get so many assumptions made about them (I'm saying this as an Indigenous Australian, trust me, I know and hear it all the time). Anyway thanks for making this series!! These conversations are really important to have, especially when it comes to trans people. The fear mongering going on against trans people lately is horrendous. ❤️
That would be amazing to see on a channel with his reach! I'd love to see a discussion from indigenous people from different places (canada, australia, etc) and see how things are different and the same, depending!
I would love to see that too!
I love this idea, I am not a person of Native, Indiginous, or Inuit decent but I love hearing the stories from creators who are. There is so much lost history, stories, cuture there.
Some interesting assumptions might be "Native Americans are mostly gone" or "Pow-wows are only for Natives of a specific tribe" or "Native Americans don't believe in modern medicine" or "Native, Inuit, Indigenous, and "Indian" all mean the same thing" - these are some things I have heard Native and Inuit creators speak about before.
This would be awesome! Maybe comparing the varying experiences of each native group and their individual tribes
Can we have someone unbiased at the table please
Hearing people who are ACTUALLY TRANS talk about this is so refreshing, because not once did any of them start getting defensive, yell, interrupt or talk over each other, or storm out of the conversation when it didn’t go their way. It’s so nice to see people who are able to have a calm and insightful discussion about this. I hope that people who praise discrimination start to watch your videos. And thank you to the man and two women who gave such a great discussion.
That's because there was noone arguing against them. This is just an echo chamber, it has no bearing on reality because there is no challenge. It's just people saying things, without any sort of challenge or debate this is just a cash grab video for y'all tik tok addicts.
@@frankcaggiano8282There’s still beauty in these kind of videos even if it’s an echo chamber.
@@timothyyu6558 for sure, but the intent is to just push the narrative and spread misinformation and emotionally charged ragebait, which I think is irresponsible.
@@frankcaggiano8282 That's literally the only chance we get to talk about it. All other scenarios we just get shut down or silenced because no one dares to listen to what we have to say.
@@wootkennziz6914 this is so patently false it hurts. Literally every second tik tok is about trans this, twitter posts about trans that, it's talked about HEAVILY on every social media platform on the planet. Let's be real here
Thank you for bringing a conversation to the athletes themselves rather than pitting people against each other (not gonna mention names, but we know who). - trans woman & former athlete
It's not really a conversation when nobody disagree with you or challenge what you propose as "fact".
I don't think you would have liked a 30 minutes video of people agreeing that trans woman shouldn't compete against biological women.
What happened to sex and gender being different?
3 trans athletes had a conversation. you dont have to watch if you dont want to.@@gianlucaangeli2905
@@gianlucaangeli2905 "biological women" 🚩🚩🚩🚩
@@ThomAvella if you cant define a biological woman then you cant define a trans woman
I stopped playing sports bc Im trans. I miss playing soccer competitively, but I know that there are no co-ed sports available for me. I'm a trans man. If I played in the female team, I'd kick their asses. If I played on the men's team, I could be comfortable, but would they? Personally, I think CO-Ed sports are important. Not just competitively, but to promote healthly activities to transfolk, who may feel turned away by fitness due to how other people view them.
As a trans dude, I'm perfectly comfortable with my body I just don't like when others judge my body because it makes me anxious.
I totally agree with you @viknightingale552 ^^
And I would like to add : I'm waiting for the day where the trans category in sports would be finally created.
I agree. I see co-ed sports as a necessary step to challenge discrimination and encourage the rawness of competition.
Being a trans guy on a men's team, you would have to work 5x as hard to be at their physical levels and that'd be unfair to you. That's why I quit sports because the disadvantages were too large to ignore.
@@eddiestefon7041would you though? trans men who are on testosterone have similar hormone levels to cis men, so they'd have to put in about the same amount of effort as far as I know
I love the “I Spent A Day With” series and it’s so cool to see people that have been there talk together about things they have in common! I would love to see an “Assumptions” about people with Chronic Pain or an Invisible Illness as someone who deal with both I have had so many assumptions about me that just are not right or make no sense.
Been hearing about this issue for years. Never seen a group of trans athletes actually get to talk about it directly
It's awful that this issue directly affects THEM but they never get too talk about it themselves.
Hearing them talk about the topic and make really bad arguments is helpful. They presented their best arguments and revealed how weak their arguments are. A sex-segregated category for women (individuals born with a female reproductive structure) and an open category is the only way to go.
@@Nocturne22 Hearing them talk about the topic and make really bad arguments is helpful. They presented their best arguments and revealed how weak their arguments are. A sex-segregated category for women (individuals born with a female reproductive structure) and an open category is the only way to go.
Yes and every argument was dishonest/ full of fallacies. Seriously. Every point. Name the STRONGEST point you think they made. Go ahead.
i would LOVE to hear from autistic adults!!! i myself am one of them, and i feel like there’s many misconceptions about us
Same! I’m autistic and ADHD.
I came here to say the same thing!
@@saxenart Hey, me too. :)
I'm all for it as a person with Aspergers.
@@Nicky2414 aspergers is just autism. Please don’t use aspergers anymore because it’s a natzi term and an outdated term. It’s not in the dsm-5 and it’s not used to diagnose people anymore.
Anthony has always been great about giving people a platform to have their voices heard. This new format with multiple people conversing on a topic that relates to and affects them is just another incredible way to hear all walks of life. I'm a cis white male, so this topic (and other topics related to discrimination) doesn't necessarily relate to me personally, but I believe it's always a good move to listen to the feelings and perceptions of people that are on very different paths in order to keep an open mind and stay empathetic.
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I would argue that this topic absolutely relates to you! Cis white men are the primary target audience for sports. Even if you're not a sports fan, you're very likely to be around them. You can be the voice supporting trans athletes that we need!
@@Seaweedgirl1 no, people don't want mentally ill men that think they are woman in womans sports. In fact, we don't want them around woman at all.......Woman have spoken outright on this...Teams have walked off the playing felid bc of this and we support them.
What does cis mean
Anthony took the "is not my place to talk" to a whole new level,dude is straight up no in the conversation.
my farts are better than Anthony’s farts.
He is providing his platform for needed conversations, while also giving people the protagonism they deserve.
Something so basic and respectful, yet not many people do it.
@@liliveliz4153lol this room is full of people with the same opinion. Straight away it lost me.
@@user-il3mv5kt3s because they're the ones affected by legislation and hatred the most. Ofc it's going to be similar opinions. Plus they're the ones who are trans. This series is supposed to be a conversation (not a debate, there's a difference between the two) about assumptions and misconceptions about groups of people.
I don't really care about this issue since I don't watch sports but I think it would be more interesting for a discussion to take place rather than 3 people agreeing with each other for 30 minutes. It just feels like I am missing info because I don't know anything about sports.
My farts are better than Anthony’s farts 💨
I feel like you wouldn’t say this about people you agree with
I am under the assumption that this will be an amazing series
My farts are better than Anthony’s farts 💨
I see what you did there!
I adore your pfp
There is no internal feeling that is exclusive to men or women (or boys/girls), what makes anyone a man or a woman is being either male or female and reaching adulthood. Their sex and stage of physical maturity makes them men or women, not some "feeling" they have.
Believing there is some "essence" specific to males or female as far as feelings go, that can manifest "in the wrong body", is akin to a religious belief, having faith in something that is impossible to prove or disprove. The thing is though, that no one on the "trans" side can actually even explain what this "essence" is, they can't even explain it to themselves yet have convinced themselves that the feeling they have means they "are in the wrong body" - without realising that their discomfort simply stems from not realising that they view conforming to sexist stereotypes as legitimate measures of manhood or womanhood. That is why every explanation given of WHY a male "can't be a man, but is instead woman" etc. relies upon listing stereotypical stuff, or, in some cases is completely abstract and refuses to actually provide any explanation of what they mean, simply stating they "know" that what they feel means what they say it does, even though they can't actually provide a definition of it. "It's hard to explain but I know I'm right" is an attitude one constantly comes up against - a religious faith in something they can't define.
This idea that the terms "man" and "woman" carry all this baggage, sexist stereotypes, that people need to live up to or feel comfortable with is a complete fabrication coming from the "trans" side. You lot want a term to reflect aspects of your personality as well, you want to create more boxes to put people in, as you won't accept simply just being a man or a woman based on being born male or female (and reaching adulthood, obviously people are boys and girls before becoming men or women), but believe you need this "freedom of expression" to broadcast what sexist stereotypes you feel more comfortable with - thinking the world needs to adopt the sexist view you lot have (you fail to see just how much you have in common with Conservatives).
Replacing objective definitions which are based in physical reality, with entirely subjective metaphysical claims, is not logical in any way, is not morally superior, and is demonstrably harmful, not least to female rights and protections, but also to practically anyone that buys into it as it warps people's perception of the underlying issues. It hinders people in their quest for individuation, creating this false narrative of them becoming more "authentic" when the total opposite is true, they believe they need validation from others in order to be happy etc. instead of being encouraged to find more inner strength and resilience with less reliance on how people see them. Demanding to be legally recognised as the opposite sex of what one is, is in no way shape or form more authentic than accepting the physical reality one is born into.
This "woman is a social construct" thing IS the part that validates and perpetuates sexist stereotypes - woman isn't a social construct in that sense, it is a word society has chosen yes, but to describe a PHYSICAL state of being, not anyone's emotional states or where they fall on some spectrum of masculinity or femininity. There is a fundamental misunderstanding here of what the definition of man and woman means. The notion that people need to live up to sexist stereotypes of what "real men" or "real women" are, is complete fantasy. The fact that many people act as if sexist stereotypes were valid ways of measuring "real men" or real women" is a problem with the individual and their sexist bias, not with the terms themselves, as the terms themselves have none of the expectational baggage that people who internalise sexist stereotypes associate with them.
A woman, is an adult human female, it is not an "identity" or a feeling, dress, attitude etc., that whole line of thinking is regressive in the extreme. Claiming there is some "essence" to "womanhood" that also males can access, but the reality is that women do not have to look or act any certain way, or act out some ludicrously sexist idea of the “social role of a woman”, all females who reach adulthood are women regardless of how they feel or look, and the one thing they ALL have in common, the one experience they ALL share, is that they are FEMALE, they do not have to "identify" as anything, they physically ARE women because they are female.
Why should MALES be allowed access to SINGLE-SEX spaces/sports reserved for FEMALES based on their "gender identity"? If sex and gender are separate, then a male announcing his "gender identity" is "trans woman" does nothing to change their sex, they are still MALE - so why should they be afforded rights reserved for the opposite SEX? The movement is regressively sexist, and misogynistic.
Why do you believe females do not deserve any spaces free of males? What is hateful about upholding female sex-based rights that were fought long and hard for?
Believing sexist stereotypes define men and women, instead of their biological sex, is unquestionably sexist to the core, because you are saying men and women are not actually free to behave however they want but need to conform to these sexist stereotypes in order to be men or women - if you say no they don't have to act any sort of way as a man or woman, and being a man or woman has nothing to do with biology - then what are you describing by calling someone a man or woman? If you think it doesn't describe biology, and doesn't describe anything about their looks or behaviour, then what on earth are you basing defining anyone as a man or woman on??? Why would a man need to become a "trans woman" in order to be their "authentic selves", why can't they just be a very feminine man and dress/act however they want?
@@ambientjohnny you are wasting your useless breath.
Lia Thomas, Rachel McKinnon, and Chris Bruce
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Lia thomas hasnt won like that in forever since her transition's progressed iirc
Exactly. I was like "what? Do they live under a rock and never heard at least of Lia Thomas?"
@@AliceMGT Yes maybe because they are not a good athlete anyway. They tied with the biologically female athlete that one time even though Lia was way bigger. When Lia was in men's sports they were not doing well at all as an athlete.
I love this idea Anthony, experiencing the conversation between people with shared experiences is completely different to watching them be interviewed.
Veronica Ivy, Lia Thomas, Janae Kroc. All trans-women who started playing in women's sports. Lia Thomas specifically was coming 431st or around that area when she was competing as a man and then started coming 2nd and 1st in women's swimming. How tf is that fair. These TRANS-women are only talking about the "evidence" that they agree with and not even acknowledging any other evidence that can be found in abundance with a simple google search. They are surrounded by 'yes men'. This is bull. And I would say this to their faces.
Yes exacly! I've been looking for comments about lia Thomas like it's just so unfair for those swimmers and so heart breaking seeing all those interviews with them saying that changing in the same room as lia was so uncomfy for them. Like Lia grew as a man never on puberty blockers ect. Ofc she will have advantage over them. I feel like those "evidence" are taken on Trans woman who stoped her puberty and then she start taking estrogen or sth like that otherwise those trans athlets really have advantage, maybe not in all sport but lets be honest at most they have. Same as those poor Trans mens that have big disadvantage at male category.
those numbers are... very off
@@RichConnerGMN During the last season Thomas competed as a member of the Penn men’s team, which was 2018-19, she ranked 554th in the 200 freestyle, 65th in the 500 freestyle and 32nd in the 1650 freestyle. As her career at Penn wrapped, she moved to fifth, first and eighth in those respective events on the women’s deck. And this is copy paste of her actual results.
It’s gaslighting.
Just stop. You know darn well that when it comes to sports it's always about biological advantage! You complain about Lia Thomas, what about Micheal Phelps? He absolutely has a physical advantage over other male swimmers and nobody ever complains, because sports is about competition and being the best. Trans athletes have to undergo rigorous training and adhere to all the regulations placed on them to have the correct hormone levels in order to compete fairly with cis athletes. (Not to even mention how many cis athletes are taking steroids) all of these athletes train hard to compete in these sports and trans athletes have as much right to compete as cis ones do. If you're gonna complain about biological advantage, sports will never be fair in your fantasy world.
I mean.. sounds like the solution is improving technology and healthcare for trans people's affirming care.
No bc trans "affirming" care is harming and killing trans people and kids
@@carmen3091 all the evidence points to the opposite, actually.
@@snowballeffect7812what how? Can u see this evidence.
Why are sex and gender only different when it's convenient for them?
im sorry@@MicrowavedFurby
I’m 1:41 in and already I’m realising the the biggest issue with this whole thing is no one reads the medical data. The reason British Cycling moved to ban trans women in women’s competition was because they did further research and felt that in their sport a year of HRT was not enough to nullify the advantage an athlete got from male puberty. Further research is being conducted but it is happening in a sport by sport basis, which is fair.
It was also due to focus groups just asking people what they thought in a community that is not known for being kind towards trans women which was their main statement on the news when they announced it
There was also alot of criticism on the study they did as there is simply not enough significant data due to lack of trans women competing to reach much conclusion and outright ban and trans cyclists such as Emily Bridges were already parcipating in a study that was leading towards the opposite conclusion as their study
Also the olympic regulation has always been 2 years of hrt before competing where it is know there is little biological benefit after that time period
So it's odd they studied on one year and decided that's final and ban them no matter how long right?
He's created an echo chamber, not one of them cares to present opposing data because they all represent a single position.
It's funny how you transphobes can NEVER explain what these "advantages" actually are.
@@rachele183 are you implying that female cyclists are not known for being friendly towards trans women? Because from the Sky News announcement they only asked other women competitors.
You’re not wrong on that point, however as pointed out in this video there will probably not be any significant data for several decades if we are going just by pure numbers because their just are not that many trans athletes competing and there probably never will be going by demographics if that stays the same as it is now.
The Olympics want the individual sporting bodies to regulate their own sports with their own studies, while it has it’s own opinions it is only a competition at the end of the day not a governing body. If it was then sports like synchronised swimming and boxing wouldn’t have been single sex for so long.
If you go back and watch both the British Cycling and World Athletics announcement they both say they they are conducting further studies and open to more data. Going by the British Cycling announcement thought it seems clear to me they were most worried about legal challenges, I’m guessing from “cis” women, which is why they rushed into these bans.
@@isoutoforbit first off I’m a woman and second off I’m very open to new data and studies proving me wrong. I gain no pleasure from seeing people be excluded because sport participation is a human right.
In an argument it’s the group challenging the status quo who present the data technically, however the point of my comment wasn’t to reference any particular study but to point out that what she said was inaccurate. These governing bodies changed their policies due to doing their own studies. The same can’t be said for these states and their new anti trans laws which from what I can see are mostly political posturing.
Each sport has a duty to do their own research and come to their own conclusions. For example the ISU didn’t change their trans inclusion policy and their will be many sports that won’t have to either.
We loved the interview with DID systems. Would love to have a conversation like this between plurals, especially also with those who identify as multiple outside of the clinical context. That would help so much against stigma and pathologisation of the condition, and give people a better understanding of plural to plural interactions!
i'm in full support of trans people in their transition and the overall decision to be more of who they are inside, but a big point i have as to trans athletes, specifically MtF, participating in leagues of their assigned gender is the fact that, most major sports leagues like the NBA and the NFL already have no restrictions on gender yet they are male dominated. if there was no disadvantage to being born a female over male, the WNBA would not exist at all because any woman can qualify for the NBA, but none of them can even compete and that's why we need an entirely different league.
They’re saying the advantage can be eliminated via testosterone suppression
@@Kylek1133male puberty isn't reversible and where the advantage comes from... and kids shouldn't stop their natural puberty for many reasons.... so it's just never going to be fair.
@@amirrhodesve791 why shouldn’t kids stall off their puberty? There are like minimal side effects. They can just stop taking the puberty blockers and their puberty starts up like normal.
@@Kylek1133 it can leave kids with underdeveloped genitals, low sex drive, underdeveloped mental ability... puberty blockers are banned in every Country other then Canada and America for kids ... why is that????
@@amirrhodesve791uh, no they aren't??? They're literally used for medical purposes outside of being trans lol
I don't know if you already did these groups of people, but could you do episodes about:
1. Teachers
2. Polyglots
3. International Students who attend foreign schools.
4. International Teachers AKA American teachers who teach in Asia
5. People who survived near death experiences
6. People who survived extreme natural disasters
7. Burn victims and amputees, physically disabled people due to an incident
8. Su!c!de attempt survivors
9. Homicide detectives and examiners
10. Animators
11. Hospice care workers
12. P*rn actors
13. Farmers
14. Physical Trainers
15. Former Spies
16. Martial Art Experts
17. Uber & Lyft drivers
18. Sex Therapists
19. Acupuncturists, Massage Therapists, Reiki Practitioners, Chiropractors, Physical Therapists
20. Local State, County, City, Politics
21. Visual Artists
22. Social Justice Activists
23. Terminally Ill people
24. Animal Rescuers
25. National Park Workers
26. People who are raised by LGBTQ+ parents
27. Indigenous people who have lived on reservations
28. Race car drivers
29. Lifeguards
30. Professional Sports Athletes ie. Football or Soccer players
I know super random list and you probs already did some but here ya go!
This a new series and the only groups he conformed is gay posters and furries
@@noahvercetti7959and asexuals as well! But these ideas are great too
yessssssss
Please do Assumptions on Trans men and Trans masc individuals. So many ppl have said shit like " your just a tomboy" "you didn't have a dad that's why..." Yada yada yada. Id love to see trans masculine and trans men talk about it.
My farts are better than Anthony's farts.
Yes! Especially feminine or gay trans guys who don’t fit that narrative whatsoever.
thats like 1% of the 1% so prob wont happen fun fact 99% of the population never was in a mental health facility remember to diversify your friend group a short term happynes/=longterm
@@TheTruePlaguethat's not really 1% of 1%, but about 50% of 1%. also your fun fact has nothing to do with this unless you are trying to pursue an agenda
@@umtic how is 0.5% of the global population trans athleats
Gotta admit, I havent watched the whole thing but I don't want to either. It's great to give people a platform but all they do (up to 7mins) is confirming each other. There's a lack of discussion. Put people with different opinions in a room and let them discuss. That'd be way more interesting
The "different opinions" in this case would just be people debating if these 3 people exist. Human rights isn't a debate, we should be encouraging the talk of "different opinions" as if it isn't purely about debating these peoples lives with people that have no knowledge what it means or what it is like to be trans
@@Izzy-wl7gl That's not the people I'm talking about. It's about if trans women should participate in the women's category because of biological advantages so take someone who works in that field or is highly experienced. I'm not an expert so I won't express any opinion, but an actual expert could. And even if he'd be against trans people, there would at least be a discussion.
@@sozio1124yeah, I still think it's pretty inevitable that transphobes are gonna sneak into that discussion
@@Al_-cf1dj It really isnt. Anthony hand picks the candidates and he could make a picture of that person for himself. Not everyone who is against trans people is transphobic
@@sozio1124 true but I think it's valid to allow the people who are being talked over to share their perspectives without being pushed against (though I do think a sort of fact check with information popping up on screen would be helpful)
honestly i don't disagree with the message being spread here but it is not very productive as it isn't a debate, its just 3 people sitting down and agreeing with eachother for 30 minutes, pretty much just an echo chamber
Echo Chamber. not sure what the 3 guests are trying to achieve. Over and Out.
i think the purpose of assumptions is just to amplify the voices of the people they bring, so personally, it being a place where all the interviewees just agree with each other isn't necessarily a bad thing! :D
If someone was transitioning for the sole reason to play sports and nothing else that would be weird and is not a thing. No one is putting themself through that just to maybe be better at a sport. They just want to do what makes them happy, who are we for making others feel less than because they are going through a different journey.
Their pursuit of happiness shouldn't trump every one elses.
By letting a transwoman compete in womens sports, it makes all the hard work and effort of the other women meaningless.
Feminists should be enraged!
@@AraanorCategorically wrong
I don't identify as a feminist bc that group has been corrupted too.
That's the thing, men are dressing like women and claiming that makes them a woman. No real commitment needed to walk into a locker room and expose yourself in front of kids in spas. It happens.
@mythicalthings1796 how their right look at Fallon fox in mma broke a woman's skull a ridiculous advantage in sports
@@potatobro_the_fifth2045 So I’m not sure if you are aware, but orbital fractures tend to happen in a sport where two competitors punch each other in the face over and over. Just a thought.
I love that it was just them in the room (no offense to Anthony lol) because it felt like u k it wasn't an interview although they were answering questions, it was almost like it was just them chatting in a safe space with no judgement and thats why i love this set up. Well done to the three of u for speaking up about it and not letting the fear of judgement get to u and well-done to Anthony for the set up ect good job!
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he uploaded an echo chamber conversation, didn't partake cuz this needs opposition, and Anthony only ever nods and asks questions and reiterates what someone already said or assumes what they're gonna say in next 1min
@@wasd3108Although this only had people from one side, there is a reason for that. It’s not meant to be an argument it’s meant to show a side that is often silenced. The women here are athletes who have done research on this topic and are therefore credible. It would be more of an echo chamber if they were only giving opinions and not stating facts. The whole point of Assumptions is to clear up any confusion that there is about a minority group. It would be kind of silly to include people who cannot relate and people who have different experiences.
@@bean6725 "It would be kind of silly to include people who cannot relate and people who have different experiences." experience the facts or relate to the facts? ;D Ends in bias. Love it
@@wasd3108 Yes it ends in “bias” because this is not a debate. No matter who is talking, there will always be “bias”. I’m using quotes around the word because you are getting their individual lived experiences confused with the word itself. The difference here is that you see their experience as biased. I can see your point though because everyone is more likely to form opinions based SOLELY on their own experiences. But they aren’t just doing that. If they were taking a stance but not providing any evidence/support, it would be a biased claim.
I was so caught off guard when Anthony popped up midway through. I WAS INVESTED IN THE CONVO!
I do like this type of format because it's different than usual. It's not a debate, it's more like a documentary. Hearing their points of view is appreciated.
As a trans woman I would like to share my opinion if that's okay with the general public. I wouldn't go as far to say that trans women are cheating or that they should be banned from sports, but I do think that all athletes, trans or cis, should complete against other persons that match them in physical endurance, strength, and skill. To compete against someone that is lesser in any of these aspects is an unfair advantage over your opponent. This is why certain sports have different classes depending on the physical build of the athlete. If a cis woman has the physical build of a cis male then she should compete against those athletes. Same for a trans woman and vice versa for cis men who have a physical build of a cis woman. Same for trans men. Sports aren't really about showcasing your individuality, their about showcasing a specific set of skills. Unless it's an artistic sport like dancing or something like that, then it really doesn't matter that much.
I 100% agree as a trans guy
Facts
Thank you so much for this comment. The thing people, be it cis or trans, don’t understand is that gender and sex are and should be two seperated things. Its a biological fact that we are either born as (I mean our sex is either) female or a male and it doesn’t affect only the genetalia, but our entire development of the body. No matter what our gender is or how much somebody operated their body or shifts hormones the body remains. Its really, really not fair to have a trans woman compete with a woman if their physichal capablitiles don’t match.
Thank you yeah I was going to comment the same thing. They didn't touch on if you transitioned after puberty. The whole testing for hormones to me doesn't stop your muscles and build you got when you "were" the other sex. This is the only thing I have been lost on. If anyone can help me understand why it's ethically ok for a tans person who went through puberty the other sex doesn't have an advantage scientifically.
My problem is I know this wouldn't be implemented fairly. They aren't about to use fairness as a reason to make a basketball league for short people you know? It will just be used as a way to push marginalized people out of the spotlight like how chess and disc shooting are separated by gender when there's no biological disadvantages at play. Similarly they aren't going to make cis women take tests to see who they should compete against, it will always always be the trans women who need to take blood tests and stuff. The marginalized will always be seen as taking something that doesn't belong to them, even if they've earned it
When you said you were doing a Asexual verion next week, I audibly squealed!
I am so excited!!🖤🩶🤍💜
ace rep omg
lowkey excited - ace ally
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This feels like something that buzzfeed would upload
Fr tho
Buzzfeed is shallow as hell. This is not
@@calci2679 it "feels" like. The topics are kinda weird. Nothing can be worse than buttfeet.
-says that if trans women had an advantage teams would be stacked with trans women. -proceeds to say there isnt enough trans women in sports to make teams. okay
Literally what we are starting to see 🤣
I'm so frustrated that this exact video has an unwanted PragerU detransition advertisement slapped directly underneath it. These algorithms are such nuclear waste.
Womp womp
@@christiankilduff1281 Careful, the school you're teaching at could fire you over that dirty language. lol
By the conclusion of Thomas's swimming career at UPenn in 2022, her rank had moved from 65th on the men's team to 1st on the women's team in the 500-yard freestyle, and 554th on the men's team to fifth on the women's team in the 200-yard freestyle.
She was mediocre under the men's side to beating 3 Olympians. But no advantage. BS.
I would love to see an episode with Autistic individuals, there are a lot of Assumptions that I would love to see discussed.
Yes
I really like how great this conversation flows from point to point. They are also very good at taking turns talking. AND they are great at slowly showing their own selves, what they do, and their experiences!
That’s because it’s not a debate
Why are sex and gender only different when it's convenient for them?
It's just a circle jerk of people agreeing with each other
@@MicrowavedFurby they are always different what do you mean?
@@lokeyartistThen how are there are no biological differences between biological women and trans women?
This comment section is gonna hell or the most wholesome place ever.
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Probably both.
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When you got a man that was ranked somewhere in the 400’s in Swimming and then pretends to be a woman and gets 1st place it’s very clear he has a huge biological advantage.
were they on HRT? for how many months? those are very important factors, obviously a biological male that hasn't undergone HRT for a certain period of time will dominate biological females.
@@nullcoreproject
No.
FINA finally banned William Thomas.
@@nullcoreprojectThat doesn’t matter, male puberty brings the most advantages.
IF YOU CAN'T NAME THEM ILL DO IT FOR YOU 4 LILIAN GALLAGHER Moment transgender skateboarder Lillian Gallagher takes top position in women's Red Bull competition as skater who came second says 'I deserved to be first'
Anthony out here doing this conversation the right way. Jubilee does it for the clicks and arguments, but Anthony is doing it for the sake of conversation
i feel like this and jubilee are just 2 different formats. anthothy's channel has and probably always will be about giving people a voice. meanwhile jubilee's version is a debate. i dont think it means that either one is wrong.
@@jolynecujoh2694 sure. I just mean that trans rights shouldn't be a debate, which is what jubilee is doing
@WishGender while i wholeheartedly agree that trans rights need to exist, i also believe that all opinions should be heard regardless of how wrong we perceive it to be
Picking such a controversial one as episode 1 is ballsy
Interesting to hear their opinions on this. Surprising... to hear the lack of understanding of human biology from athletes!
If a biological male goes through puberty they have many irreversible advantages over biological females; Thicker and stronger bone density throughout the body. A different muscle make-up, with more fast twitch muscle fibers overall. Larger lungs and heart. Longer limbs. Hip structure looks and works differently. Larger shoulders. Much stronger jaw bone. Larger hands and feet. Larger esophagus.
So leaving testosterone aside, a biological male who goes thru puberty has many advantages. Only some listed here.
This is irrefutable biological reality. I don't hate anyone.
If Ben Shapiro was 'debating' against ppl like this, he would actually break down lmao
😅😂😂😂😂
Not really, this is just an echo chamber. Caitlyn Jenner disagrees with them and is an Olympic gold metal athlete turned trans. Clearly has more merit than two people who run (and can't get notority without being trans) and a mid-bmx
I'm interested in knowing when they talk about how trans women not having a biological advantage and trans women not having any higher testosterone than a cis woman has, are they talking about trans women who have undergone HRT? Might seem obvious, it was just never mentioned so I wanna know
Yes they are talking about trans women athletes who are on HRT.
yeah the studies they’re referencing analyze trans women who have been on E for 2-3+ years I believe, which is around the point where you’d no longer have a male body to the standards of competitive sports
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@@GavHernI think issue is that trans women went through male puberty that means your bones are structured differently such as density, size and etc
So even after testosterone dissipates. You inherently have an advantage. Yes by decreasing testorone you will some bone density and size. However, the bone density/size will remain much higher than significant percentage of women.
@@The6th03 This bone structure and density argument is completely null because the studies that have been done conclue that there is no advantage at all, that includes any possible advantage.
The only thing missing from this conversation is non Trans athletes. If your looking for assumptions having everyone at the table is more of a true conversation.
this channel is not a debate channel. It's a documentary channel
Still. Its just misinforming people. Because anyone with common sense knows that “trans women” definitely do have a advantage against biological women. Lia Thomas is a PRIME example.
@@varonica544 you clearly don't want trans people to exist then. I'm personally skeptical of idea of trans women competing against women, but I don't write trans women in quotation marks and I accept they are still women
@@varonica544be quiet.
@@varonica544finally. I was looking through the comments for someone to state the obvious
If people are too afraid to even make an open category competition that doesn't limits the athlete based on their s.e.x./gender, then they're either have "no balls" or being a "pssy".
because its unfair for women if a woman goes against a man in boxing then shes gonna be knocked out straight away
unrelated but the girl in the middle ???? her shoulders are so beautiful??? i didnt even know shoulders COULD be beautiful. awestruck truly....
Truly omg
Other communities to consider for assumption-ADHD and Deaf People.
Autism as well.
I’m so excited for what this video can bring to this channel I wanna consume all the info
the video has been out for 7 minutes yet people already have opinions formed about it 💀 watch it before commenting mfs
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If sex and gender aren't the same, why is this even a conversation?
@@avamin0s you need to go back to biology class
@@avamin0s That's exactly my point. It IS about penises/vaginas and chromosomes. What does a social construct have to do with an objective reality? We're not talking about concepts. You can very easily define male or female just by looking at whether or not their can bear a child for example. Why are we bringing feelings into a physical competition?
What's the point of having three people sit down and all give the same opinion about a topic? The same result could've been done by putting a single person to talk
It's a video about trans athletes sharing their experiences. This isn't about "opinions" as it's not a debate so i don't see your issue
@@bimmer3081 the title poses a question and the format has the name assumptions
@@unavela Have you listened to Anthony's explanation of the format. It clearly is about people talking about things they themselves face. Why would anyone have a different "opinion" about their own existence? It's also supposed to be a conversational format, which is hard to do with one person. Also these people clearly have different experiences they just are all of the opinion that they should'nt be exluded from sports
If men and women have no biological difference, why are there different sports leagues?
Cause we weakened women over centuries and the men got strong by killing the weaker ones and letting the strong ones reproduce
Like what a stupid question man
Of course becasue men on average have are stronger thanks to our testosterone
We could illuminate that and make sport much more fair if we devided it by testosterone/estrogen levels
There is a difference. It's called testosterone which most trans women don't have and most trans men do have
Why would a person flip their entire world upside down trying to be their most authentic, genuine self just to win some swim meets? They wouldn't.
If trans people are very adamant about gender and sex being separate, why are they bringing gender into sports?
Gender and sex aren't the same thing... @@MicrowavedFurby
Of course not. They transitioned to see the reflection of themselves in the mirror they want to be. @@avamin0s
@@Jiddy12345You’re right. But since you’re right…there have to therefore be differences between cis women and trans women.
@@wigglewaggle3606 google is free and easy to use...
The argument that teams aren’t stacked with trans women because there is no advantage is absurd. Trans women need their own category. End of story.
Bring a person who disagrees with you challenge (impossible)
Nah they would never shatter their echo chamber 😂
Thanks for doing this, Anthony. I can't believe you went from belting the Pokémon Theme Song in a cringey movie to giving a space to oppressed groups of people. Keep up the good work🙌
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Cringey? Without that video you probably wouldn’t be here right now. That video alone is what made a lot of people get into RUclips.
Oppressed?
@@michaelg6455 did they stutter
@@mshoney9301 they are the opposite of oppressed, they are celebrated and given special treatment. Just because some people don’t like you doesn’t make you oppressed.
Great to see a video where trans athletes are able to chat amongst themselves/with people who are already acquainted with the topic!
Also, not every discussion is a debate. It’s not an “echo chamber” when three trans people get together to talk ABOUT trans ppl’s concerns. It’s called having a fucking conversation.
By this logic I hope you also spam “echo chamber” every time there are only cis people in a video about gender lmao
Too be fair, all of Anthonys videos are like this. He never really brings up any counterarguments to the people he talk to. Thinking he would do so now is unlikely based on all his other videos
Echo chambers are when you organise an entire conversation with just people who agree with you. That is EXACTLY what this is.
@@thetrain47539like every single time fox or literally any other conservative media outlet has talked about trans people? Like when they get all the cis people on tv and all tell us how trans=bad and cis=good.
@@ProfessorPrelit's because Anthony's videos are not about debating and reaching conclusions, but see views and life styles of people. do you want people to debate in documentaries?
@@thetrain47539yes and what's wrong with echo chambers?
Here’s your list of men competing as woman that have won due to the point they are born a man, there’s a lot more you can google it. It does make a difference duhh!
midfielder Quinn
Lisa Thomas
Veronica Ivy
Renée Richards
Layshia Clarendon
Chris Mosier
Oh wow six? What about the several women who have beat trans women in competitions. Cherry picking data doesn't help someone make a point
@@sue5302 fallon fox, anne andres, tiffany newell....theres three more just off the top of my head.
Why are there NO trans men that dominate male sports? Are there any trans men in the NFL or NBA or MLB?
@@sue5302 fyi, its sad when you have to like your own comment. 🙄
@@sue53021. We all know these men intentionally throw once in a while to avoid criticism, seen it multiple times.
2. Even if they honestly couldn’t get 1st it doesn’t matter. Dude places like 268th among men and then 3rd among women and you dont see the massive disparity? 😂
@@unforgiving266OP literally named a trans man, Chris Mosier, who qualified for the Olympics.
I'd love to see people with invisible disabilites who 'seem normal' or 'dont look autistic' for example, deaf or blind people who maybe dont look it I feel like theres a variety of disabilites people experience but arent always visibily that thing
I mean it does heavily depend on what stage of transition you are on biologically men and women are built different so in early stages of transition when you physically have more masculine body you have a physical advantage, while trans man has a disadvantage.
In contact sports i think there should be regulations for it since people genuinely get hurt. It is same reason why for example boxing has weight categories, so it would probably be for best to implement something similiar in this scenario as well.
Yeah itd be totally reasonable for there to be like a limit of "has to medically transition for at least 2 years".
Just that no one really wants to research trans folks so they just ban us ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Those stages for the most part are regulated out of existence by rules and standards of that sport. It's a nothing burger.
But, aren't there already regulations for trans people? As you said, depending in what stage of transition they are. I'm actually curious.
@@LuenudCreaciones You have to go through years of hormone therapy, medical visits, extensive testing, ect. By the time they are allowed to participate in women's sports, any biological advantage that may have existed before is nullified.
This is my take. Sports should always be divided into gender/$ex-neutral "classes" of natural aptitude. All sports.
This is so refreshing to see. A panel of marginalized people that don’t need to compete with people who don’t believe they should exist. This show is what jubilee fails to be
1. They aren't marginalized. They're doing too much. 2. No one thinks they shouldn't exist. Yall are so dramatic with statements like this. People in countries outside the US, Canada and the UK? they are the ones who don't want you to exist!
@@carmen3091 There are so many people in the US, Canada, and UK that don't even believe being trans is /real/.
@@carmen3091bsffr did u saw all the laws passed thats directed towards trans people?
@@flameobmo Can you list the codes for some of them? I'd like to look into those myself
@@carmen3091 1. Those are trans women, who are a group that is currently marginalized in most countries.
2. There are lots of people who don't think they are real women, and should "return to being the men they once were"
The fact that there is systematic oppression and hatred towards trans people doesn't mean trans people in sport is automatically fair. I am not sure what to make from this pilot, you have three people agreeing with each other without questioning or criticizing each others biases of false arguments. To be fair, almost no RUclips video doesnt make these mistakes and everybody is biased.
I agree but the systematic oppression is really not systematic oppression for them it is delusion that is being rejected not the person… and thier oppressing themselves by staying in that dillusion..systematic???I don’t see how when trans people are still allowed to work it was made legal to change genders gay marriage is legal I mean there’s nothing they can’t do including be a whole biological male and play in women’s sports I’m not seeing the systematic oppression I see victim
The part that kind of - for lack of a better word, "enlightened" - me was at 16:56 when they pointed out that during the time of slavery, black men and women had to adapt to survive, thus making them stronger, faster, and more athletic. And then that fact somehow became a point of unfairness in sports, that "they were bred to be stronger and faster than white men and women." And it's like those people who banned men and women of color were saying "How dare you use the athelticism you adapted and evolved from our oppression of your race to get ahead of us in sports."
If you think the human race evolves in such a small amount of time, you’re an idiot. It takes thousands of years for change throughout generations
That's false. The reason why black people are naturally stronger is not because of american slavery, it's because they evolved in a bit of a different way. Africa is full of wild and dangerous animals and most of those people had to resort to more "barbaric" stuff in order to survive for a long amount of years. American slavery lasted about 90 years, which is not nearly enough to 'evolve' in such way. One of the reasons why black slaves were sold by their black masters to whites and carried to the USA was because of their strength and endurance. They already were stronger and more endurable, not the other way around.
@@gjbsarmeri3957 Oh. That's a good point, thank you for clarifying.
@@clockguy5436 No worries. A lot of people don't really understand that slavery is not really what shaped modern black culture and their gene pools. It's the same with asians. For generations most of for example chinese people were trained through extreme discipline and respect. That's why many modern asians are like that as well.
Glad you are framing this conversation in a way where they get to lead the conversation on their terms.
This is sarcasm, right?
@@shrimpinainteasy7370No, trans people are always talked over in this conversation, one that contains only trans voices is actually a good thing.
@@shrimpinainteasy7370why would it be sarcastic?
@@nickyheartbecause this style will just create echo chambers. It's not positive even if you agree with what they are saying
@@gianlucaangeli2905 You use that term, but I don't think you know what it means.
Tiffany Newell, Avi Silverberg, Lia Thomas is a big one too, just to name a few and I could name more. These are Trans athletes who have smashed female records just within this year and 2 or 3 previous. I'm unsure why such a false statement is put right in the beginning of the video.
lia thomas hasnt won much at all recently iirc. as she's progressed through hrt her general strength and stuff has decreased. transitioning can be like around a 10 year process including a few surgeries.
It's to get engagement in the comments.
@@AliceMGT "lia thomas hasnt won much at all recently iirc."
Oh really? "By the conclusion of Thomas's swimming career at UPenn in 2022, her rank had moved from 65th on the men's team to 1st on the women's team in the 500-yard freestyle, and 554th on the men's team to 5th on the women's team in the 200-yard freestyle."
" transitioning can be like around a 10 year process including a few surgeries."
Which is why the NCAA letting her compete after one year of hormone therapy was utter madness.
@@AliceMGT "These are Trans athletes who have smashed female records just within this year and 2 or 3 previous." I stated within a timeframe of 2-3 years which if my resources are correct it was in 2022 when "her 1:43.12 time in the 200 free shattered the previous pool record, as well as the Ivy League's meet record."
@@synchronium24 Being fifth in a team is hardly smashing records
That first sentence, "For competitive cycling these grand tour teams and these corporate backed teams will spend millions of dollars chasing the tiniest little marginal advantage that they can possibly get. I'm talking whether or not a sock is knit with a certain thread count and how high up your calf it goes. So if trans women truly were this major advantage in competitive sports and we would just come in and automatically win everything easily, every single pro tour team would be stacked, the entire roster would be trans women. "
I've fully supported trans athletes for a while now, I've told friends about all of the studies and science that we've known for decades, I've argued about whether or not any kind of advantage still lingers, all of that. This single line right there throws all of that out the window.
Absolutely no need to cite studies and link sources when the fact remains that if trans women were so much better than cis women, all sports would be trans women.
Good video, thank you
Thank god that people who would be affected by the decisions regarding this issue are the ones talking about this topic. I know next to nothing in regards to this topic, so this also gives me an opportunity to learn more about the topic, even though I’m already on their side for the equality they’re fighting for.
If there's no difference, why still discussion? Why not just have "a sport", instead of the "men sport" and "women sport". I have no issue with people, but i do have issues when things are either or both untruthful or unfair.
hormonal treatment?
@@MaijaJaakola hormones arent the only difference between males and females.
@@MaijaJaakola What am i supposed to answer to that? Apple?
Anthony this new series sounds amazing, I'm so excited to see what's coming up in the future! (Also I'm so excited to see Shubble)
Most sports used to be co-ed sports. And the reason they stopped being co-ed is because a woman won something once and all the male athletes got upset about it.
There's this mindset that a man will never lose to a woman, so when a man does lose to a woman he thinks it isn't fair because he's been raised to expect to win.
Imo sport should be in categories based solely on skill level, not gender.
Gender matters though, as a feminist it saddens me to see this community step on females and taking our spaces away. Men and women are not the same, men have biological advantages and it’s not fair to put that against a woman who’s disadvantaged against a man.
@@ranouma147 gender isn't that straight forward. A lot of cis female athletes have heigher levels of testosterone than average and that doesn't make them any less women. And if a trans woman is taking hormones then her biology will literally change.
As a feminist it saddens me that you're holding a perception of gender that harms not only trans people, but also cis people who don't fit in your neat little equation - and will disproportionately affect people of colour who are less likely to fit in "white" "gender" categories
@@graceswan4353 Testosterone isn’t the only factor that’s the problem. Men have several permanent physical changes when they go through puberty that won’t change no matter what hormones go through their body later on.
I’ve been watching your stuff for a long time Anthony but I’ve never actually subscribed for some reason. As a trans woman I loved this open and honest conversation that allowed people actually affected by these issues to speak on them. This video made me finally subscribe
I would love to see people who left their religion. Any type of faith
The way that no one watched the video BEFORE commenting is really funny and telling like half of your so called concerns are mentioned in the video, not saying you can't have your opinions or disagree but at the very least you should listen to what you are arguing against.
But i wouldnt watch a 30 min video of transphobes discussing trans sports. Its pointless and just an echo chamber. You need a debate type setting for these
@@nozersit shouldn’t be a debate, these real people are having their humanity stripped from them and they could lose everything, while the “other side” pushes them down. if u wanna watch that go watch middle ground by jubilee they love giving oppressors a voice🥰
because you completely disagree with them. There's plenty of people who are in the middle ideologically. Some people might not think about trans people at all or even be trans supporters but still believe all the misinformation around on this topic. Here, they can hear what trans athletes have to say about it, instead of what transphobic right wing politicians have to say about it. @@nozers
@@steviek27Giving everyone a voice is important…if you don’t like that then why do you live in America when that is one of the biggest values this country was built on.
You don’t like people you see as transphobic, people who are actually transphobic don’t like trans people. If you think people you see as transphobic don’t deserve a voice then they can make the same assertion about you. Freedom of speech means freedom of speech for everyone.
What if black people weren’t allowed to speak because they were seen as uncivilized? (Much like how you see transphobes as uncivilized.)
What if women still weren’t allowed to speak or vote due to being seen as inferior?
What if scientists who believed the Sun was at the center of our galaxy weren’t allowed to speak because they were seen as lunatics?
Progress doesn’t occur in a society that censors free speech…look at North Korea.
@@wigglewaggle3606 That fact that you see the people who are actively discriminating as the same as the people who were and at time still are being discriminated against is wild. Transphobes are not the same as black people, women or scientists because while they were speaking for their rights and facts, transphobes are speaking against rights and only take parts of things to back up their claim and deny things when given clear evidence. This is like saying " but how can you see 2 sides of the debate if you don't give a Nazi a voice and only allow Jews to speak". It's not about civility it's about being downright immoral and cruel.
Great video! I’d love to see an Assumptions video about autism in the future
I feel like them mentioning being a slave and being trans are the same struggles are a bit much
they were talking about how they bred slaves to be stronger and how that impacts the conversation, not that being a slave and being Trans are the same thing, that was never a stand alone statement in this conversation.
You think 🤔😂
i was really confused when i saw the video format i thought it was jubilees but i definitely want to give this a try if this is something anthony is willing to keep up as a series, im on a road trip rn but i cant wait to watch it when i get home!
It's an echochamber
@@carmen3091 its not supposed to be a debate. Stop being a debate pervert
@@van7915 pervert? Lol no need to be dramatic
@@carmen3091that's the point. it's meant to be an echo chamber
Are there any links to some of these cited studies by doctors that we can check out?
@urbanistiq8009 There's actually a fair amount of pay-walled research. There is a lot of greed in academic publishing which hurt researchers.
No there isn’t lol
filled with misinformation. and zero pushback.
Loved this episode!! Would also love to see somethings discussing assumptions of unhoused/rough sleeping communities, especially after the recent statements from the UKs Home Security stating that rough sleeping in tents was a lifestyle choice (paraphrasing). I've done housing/shelter work for the last 5 yrs, and have seen similar actions taken by my own local government. I think it would be a really impactful discussion and hopefully will make people question their own assumptions about unhoused folks --- much love n thnx!
This is amazing Anthony! I can’t wait to get more of this series. You do such good work and inspire me to make good change in the world. Keep on being amazing Anthony ❤
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LOTS of people giving their take in these comments for a 30-minute video uploaded 12 minutes ago.
"I'm not transphobic, I'm just not comfortable watching a full video with trans people discussing their rights before forming my opinion on their entire community."
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Literally, they see trans people and instantly combust. They claim to not be afraid of trans people when called transphobic, yet they're too uncomfortable to sit down and watch a damn RUclips video
“I’m not transphobic, but I prefer my misinformation over actually looking into the topic because it makes me uncomfortable to admit that I may be incorrect. Instead, I will say that everyone else is incorrect for introducing facts about the topic into the equation.”
The same reason why i wont watch a 30 min video of transphobes discussing a topic is why I wont watch this. Its all bias information and a pointless echo chamber
@@nozers Imagine equating a discussion of people wanting human rights to a discussion of people wanting to take away human rights 💀
As a person with chronic autoimmune illness, I would love to hear from people with these illnesses like me: Lupus, RA, MCAS, and others. Chronic pain/fatigue. I'd love to hear from people who do drag, I'd love to hear from inter-cultural/lingual couples, (couples who learn each other's language), people with a cognitive disability, and rehabilitated felons. This series could really go on forever.
Where’s the opposing voice at? No offense but there is advantages to trans women over cis women. To ignore that is being willfully or purposefully ignorant
often times trans women lose, the media only focuses when they win or place highly due to transphobia, you aren’t immune to propaganda, i hope this helps!!!
The opposing voice is all that's heard in 99% of media with all major news orgs like Fox and BBC have significant anti trans bias. Not to mention sites like RUclips Banning LGBT creators more often than homophobes
The point of the video isn’t about debate it’s about trans women being heard and having a platform to say what they have to say about the sports argument.
there are already so many mainstream videos and platforms that talk about why trans women should be banned in sports. i get your point, but this video isn't meant as a debate. it's to give minorities a platform to debunk incorrect assumptions about them, hence the name.
@@frinkywinkythey aren’t debunking anything though they’re spreading false information.
The upcoming PWHL (Profesional Women's Hockey League) allows trans women and non binary people to play in their league and that alone is some amazing progress for allowing trans people in sports leagues
Another subsidized league. Lol the women's soccer being subsidized and them still being mad, "why don't we get paid more" lol
Love the new format. Thank you for all the work that went into it, and for the guests insights.
I would love to see a video centering immunocompromised people; there's a lot of assumptions made not just about how immunocompromised people should feel during an ongoing pandemic, but even before the pandemic as well.
I am amazed that Anthony has been doing this behind the scenes while working on Smosh at the same time. I am also glad that he is shedding light on this topic.
Can’t name 3 that are competing at this very moment but… Lia Thomas, Chloe barns, Veronica Ivy (Rachel McKinnon).
That isn't the actual 'own' that you think it is
I think their point is that trans athletes would be in MUCH higher demand if they offered such an advantage. If trans athletes aren’t actually consistently winning sports competitions then that advantage must not be THAT significant
@@cherrylk4188 Winning shouldn't be the standard, but when that does happen it underscores the point. What is a much more telling metric is how trans women perform when competing in the men's division versus the women's division. The performances should be approximately the same if trans women have no athletic advantages. With that in mind, let's consider the example of Lia Thomas. "By the conclusion of Thomas's swimming career at UPenn in 2022, her rank had moved from 65th on the men's team to 1st on the women's team in the 500-yard freestyle, and 554th on the men's team to 5th on the women's team in the 200-yard freestyle." If that isn't unfair, nothing is unfair.
Whereas you don't see any trans men dominating men's sports. Because just as male to female transition only partially compensates for male athletic advantage, female to male transition only partially compensates for female disadvantage.
@@synchronium24 Well said.
@@101spacemonkey It lowkey is though😭
Anthony Padilla is one of the nicest people and he makes me so happy ❤
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@@p-__ depends what you eat
Did she really just say “name one trans woman athlete who has won a single event?” Listen, I think everyone should be able to compete, but allowing trans women who have gone through a full puberty (or even a partial one) to compete against women (biological females) is simply unfair. Biological males have larger, longer, denser bones, more muscle mass, way more fast-twitch muscle fibres (those responsible for those powerful bursts of force/energy), bigger hands and feet, larger hearts and lungs, greater oxygen carrying capacity, narrower pelvises that result in a different centre of gravity that proves to be advantageous in cycling, specifically, than women. And all of the above provide an advantage in any sport that requires speed, power, strength and endurance. It’s simply reality, and it’s exactly why we separated the sexed in sport to begin with, the goal being women being able to compete and actually win. Allowing trans women (with biologically male bodies) to compete in women’s sports isn’t inclusive when it comes at the cost of women being able to compete. Identities don’t compete, bodies do.
And sports already accounts for that. Many cisgender women are blocked from competing because of the regulations on testosterone levels and other natural advantages some women have. Trans women are held to the same standards as every other woman, which is why you don't see a giant wave of trans women winning every sport. If a trans woman is allowed to compete in proffesional sports, it's because she is at the same regulated level as her opponents. And if its just recreational sport, it doesnt matter. But no matter what you think on this debate, this is also a great argument for puberty blockers! Allow more time for trans girls to decide what they want in life before they have to undo any advantages they gain in male puberty
@@Izzy-wl7gl sports are separated by sex. Guess what sex “trans women” are.
Would've been nice to have some dissenting opinions otherwise it turns into a comfort-zone echochamber.. which it did.
Great job! One may be tempted to ask where Anthony is, but this time it makes a lot of sense for him to sit it out. Excellent opening episode, cheers.
So much better than Jubilee, thank you so much Anthony! I enjoy seeing this kind of content from you and your team! So cool that Nicole is part of such amazing pieces of media, conversation, and education! Love, love, love!!!
My farts are better than Anthony's farts.
This was an echo chamber, not better than jubilee
@@carmen3091Jubilee platforms harmful people and tries to legitimize damaging opinions
Dude Jubilie makes conversation... this is an echo chamber... This whole video provided literally no value lmao
this is a LITERAL ECHO CHAMBER
@Fadzom Dude. The purpose here is not to "spark debate", it is about making voices heard when a question concerns a specifik group (in this case trans athletes - therefore trans athletes speak in the video), talking about THE ASSUMPTIONS they face.
I’m disappointed in these people. They deny the fact that biologically trans women DO have an advantage.
Your bone structure, lung size, size of hands and feet, bone density, strength, etc. They are so biased that they deny reality and choose to go with feelings. How about you start listening to us women who are the victims of your feelings instead of denying reality.
Why were there no cis women involved in this conversation? You know since they would be the main group affected by this happening?
Loving this! and looking forward to more of this series! i would be interested in an assumptions episode on kink with all that no kink at pride controversity and all.. also if at all possible an episode on did systems? although that might be hard to do.
I’d be really interested in that first topic. Though personally my opinion is to separate pride based on when kink is and isn’t allowed, so that everyone is of age and consenting to possibly see kink gear. I’ve heard a lot of interesting opinions on it though, I’d love to hear more.
Kink is too involved in the community. I am part of the community and have seen many others like me that don't like drag or a lot of the sexual parts about it during pride.
@MrRandomCan that's the thing, I can't even go to a pride event without feeling uncomftortable or seeing kids at the front of a drag stage. All this can't be avoided that's why I don't consider myself an active follower of the LGB community. I call it LGB like other gay people do for a reason....
The "kink at pride" discourse is so incredibly annoying because to bigots, every queer identity is considered a "kink."
Also, if it wasn't for groups like drag queens (which aren't inherently a kink BTW), BDSM peeps, and leather daddies, the queer rights movement wouldn't be nearly as successful as it is.
This is really great! I'd love to see some more sources on screen and in the description, this topic deserves so much more than half an hour
oh that would definitely be great
Especially since there is some missinformation. This topic deserves a simple fact check for some claims.
I don’t care what no one says dude yes it is major cheating if someone is originally a male then let’s say joins the female track team while he was originally male they will still most likely be better not in all cases but most cases yes
It shows that you are not informed, but it's fine, you can always document yourself
I would love to have a look at a conversation between people with multiple personality disorder. I’ve been curious about the differences in the ways they live their lives, and this series seems to be exactly what I need
Ooh that would be interesting. Bring back the DID people! :)
I doubt I would make it into the episode, but as someone with DID (dissociative identity disorder, formerly known as multiple personality disorder) I would LOVE to see an episode about and centering the voices of us, or even talk on the show my/ourself!
@@ollieroo3334In case you didn’t know if you want to check it out, Anthony did a video interviewing people with DID!
Not what I expected to be uploaded from anthony Padilla's channel today but 🤷🏻♀️💀
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Anthony changed man, he's not the same anymore
Me neither (just started the video)
@@hyde_tamjidredskulldx ? How so. I'm just saying bc isn't this a new thing?
fr i dont like these jubilee type videos. Theyre too controversial
I'm so glad to see people like Anthony use their platform and influence for important things like this.
My farts are better than Anthony’s farts 💨
the important part is to get mentally ill men that think they are woman OUT of woman's sports or any area deemed solely for woman!!! There's over 4 billion woman on this planet and the mentally ill group isn't even a fraction of a half percent of that......this group of men should not be allowed to bully their way into these areas and disrupt woman's lives.!!!