VND Mist filters - Freewell vs PolarPro
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- VND Mist filters - Freewell vs PolarPro. THESE are the best Variable ND Mists on the market!
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PolarPro VND 2-5 stop - geni.us/T7bA1
I'm a huge fan of the 80's and the style that accompanied that magic era. The mist filter is something that brings me back to that, it softens the image a tiny bit, the mist filter adds some bloom, some flare to the shot. It's magical, it's specific and it's something I really love on certain projects. These filters are also neutral density filters at the same time, so you avoid stacking and save money. I'd highly recommend both, they really come down to personal preference as a mist is very subjective, you either love the bloom or you don't, you prefer the raised blacks or you don't. It's your choice, but do let me know in the comments below which ones get you all hot and bothered.
If you have any questions at all about these Variable ND Mist filters - Freewell VND x Mist vs PolarPro Mist Edition II, post them below in the comments and I'll make sure I get back to you.
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I really have a hard time choosing between these 2 filters, Polarpro and Freewell. They have both advantages and disadvantages, and of course, that would defend your personal choice. I view some videos that polar pro that has a little brownie's color during the very bright blue sky which being mention on some other youtube videos. Considering the price range, I opted for Freewell. price wise and build quality is the same as Polarpro. Thank you for your great comparison. It help us a lot in choosing which is which.
Thanks for the Video, Love the bloom on the Tiffen, however, I purchased the the 4-pack PolarPros 82mm VND ver II + Mist Filters, the PolarPro, the P/P seems to be more controlled when it comes to bloom, the sale that were on the filters made it worth it, although unfortunately still expensive. after watching your video, I feel I made a very good investment on my purchase
The Freewell looks just as good as the PM. I actually like the bloom more on the Freewell too.
They are quite similar, build quality goes to the PolarPro, glass quality is identical to my eye, so both excellent, and bloom is a little different on each, the Freewell blooms a little more hazy whilst the PolarPro has a smaller, more controlled bloom. Both look great, but like I said, it's up to you.
@@PhillipSkraba Polar definitely mastered the bloom effect
@@Eye4eye007 They did an amazing job!
@@PhillipSkraba is it just me or is the 1/8 mist in this vnd different than the original 1/8 glowmist alone. The vnd’s version seems to be more like the 1/4 glowmist by itself.
For the specific filming style I'm going to film (cyberpunk style), I love that Tiffen for the blooming lights. Thank you!
It's all very personal taste, but yes, I agree, the Tiffen is a classic, I never take if off my talking head.
Excellent comparison and explanation. Your subject has great charisma. It is always clear when the talent trusts the photographer. Great work. Freewell for the value/price.
Thank You! Both are excellent, Freewell, sure it has a pleasant price. Both have different looks so it depends what look you’re going for.
I like the Freewell better. I've been using their regular VNDs with awesome results. The Polar Pro and Tiffen are great too.
Yes, Freewell is excellent! PolarPro too, Tiffen I've used for years, but it's a little big, gets in the way.
Just going through the reviews of filters and stumble upon this one! Really helpful! And I was pretty surprised to see my home city of Lodz in here 😊. Keep up the great work !
Thanks! Yes, I've been here for about 18 years now, came to study cinematography in the film school and kind of stayed.
Loved the video! PolarPro mist! Best Bloom’n blooms!
Thank You! They have quite controlled blooms in my opinion, Freewell are a little more like bloom on drugs, a little less controlled but still pretty cool if you’re looking for that effect.
Cool video, thank you. I have the 2-5 and 6-9 Polar Pro edition II non-mist. I absolutely love those nd filters, especially after using a few cheaper ones. They are expensive but, in my opinion, worth it. I'm not ready to part with $250 more for the PP mist so I'm going to try the Freewell. Thank you!
The PolarPro is excellent, I have both the I and II editions, as well as the Mist II. All are great. The PolarPro Mist does a great job, is superb when it comes to glass quality and the bloom is very nice indeed. It's a good choice!
Lee Filters have been doing Soft Effects polyester 100mm square filters for years that do the same thing more cheaply. Five filters in the set.
I've used those in the past on set, and I've got to tell you the difference is quite substantial. These keep the image really sharp all over, the Lee soften it up going up in the set, totally different filters in my opinion, there are cheap alternatives, we used to use stockings of grease, it all works, it just depends on the quality you're aiming for.
FYI, I believe the links you have in the description have changed at Amazon. They no longer point to the "mist edition" filters. There are other links at Amazon for them, however.
Your beautiful muse is outshining the halation I came to see.
(not a complaint)
haha, thanks!
I got the freewell, damn is so good! For my photography or videos!!
Last year I bought the normal vnd, but the feeling of this one is better! Number of stops on two way and clic hard stop. That I never miss a shot accidentally.
I modified the box for the magnet cap also enter on it.
Thanks for this review, the reason why I have choose it.
The Freewell one is excellent!! I'm a fan of both, and they have very different looks, but bang for buck Freewell comes out on top. If you're a fan of details, PolarPro wins. In terms of glass quality they're both pretty superb. You're welcome, I'm glad you like it!
great video, love the humour! I've purchased the freewell mist versions, I think what is good is that you can stack another filter from prism lens FX for example, like the flare filter etc. for another unique look without stacking too many filters on top of each other.
Thank You! Yes, exactly! I have a few from Prism Lens FX, that's something you can do for sure!
Hi! What size VND filter you bought? 82mm? for stacking with prism lens :)
I have the Freewell and I like it.
I agree, the Freewell is great, I use it myself, as well as the PolarPro. It really depends what look I'm going for, both fantastic.
Could you do one on the updated basecamp Matte box system that has the new Mist option? Thanks!
Yes, I’ve seen it, looks pretty cool. I’ll see what I can do.
I prefer the subtle glow of the PolarPro more limited to around the highlights.
Yes, it's quite a personal preference. I'll be dropping a video soon on a much larger comparison.
If anyone is interested I have been a wedding photographer for 35yrs. I have always used a Lee filters pro mist - but now I use a Fujifilm GFX100 - after ditching Hass X series - and I have one of the PM VNF Mist II's - it is better. I use a step up ring to get from my 50mm but the rest of my lenses are 77 - so it all works no fuss - also I now have access to much wider apertures which menas I can use 50 ISO - but in harsh daylight with added fill flash I don't have to worry about fiddly ND's they are the dogs wotsits
Now that's a long time to be working weddings, you must be very good at what you do! The PM is excellent, I use it a lot and love how controlled the bloom is! I'm close to doing a video on mists, though I'm leaving the Lee out of it as I'm only doing screw filter mists, but it'll be an interesting one, that's for sure!
I'm desperate to know - What's it like mixing and matching filters? For example, Freewell VND with PolarPro Mist? Would you recommend keeping to one "family" per shoot? Thanks!
No way! You can mix and match all you want! Pretend you’re choosing sweets at the cinema, go wild, I know I do 🔥
Super informative, thanks for doing this man
Thank You Luke, and you're welcome!
Before anything else I love your videos. Are fresh, on point and somehow you show what we really want to learn about the products.
I wanted to ask, what is that cage you got on your camera, it looks cool!
Thank You! I use 8Sinn cages on my cameras, they are not only super sexy in design, but incredible well made and practical.
@@PhillipSkraba Thank you man, they look solid!
Nice comparisons! Guess I should really save up huh. I think I might end up getting the Tiffen 1/4 BP Mist, and get the PolarPro standard VNDs, or a Revoring VND for run-gun situations when I'm moving indoors and outdoors. I wish there were more CPL-VND filters out there though, currently using a K&F one which is fine, but would be nice if there was an upgrade path. But gosh why is filmmaking gear sooooooooooooo damn expensive. I still have university loans to pay off, can barely afford anything.
Thank You! So expensive!! I know!! The Tiffen 1/4 Mist is a cult classic, I love it! I'm currently waiting on a couple more mists and I'll be dropping a huge mist comparison video.
I brought the Freewell. Thanks.
Both great choices, Freewell is superb, I use it frequently!
@@PhillipSkraba I kinda wanted that lens cap situation on the mickennon mist. Maybe I’ll treat my sigma 18-35 later.
It’s a cool thing to have, that’s for sure! I’m working on my mist video, hopefully that’ll drop soon.
Hey Philip, this was an excellent comparison. I'm torn between the Moment Cinebloom and the Tiffen BlackProMist. Can't wait to see the comparison!
Thank You! So I have both of those and a lot more, so wait before you buy! I’m waiting for the last one, the Hollywood, and then I have all the mists out there 👌🏻
@@PhillipSkraba brilliant mate. Cannot wait.
Great vid Man! I wonder, seems everyone like the freewell, but if I’m looking for more subtle diffusion, would you agree that the PolarPro is that? I’ve read and seen that the freewell seems to hit more of a 1/4 than 1/8 where the PP is closer to actual 1/8. Wanted to get your thoughts on that. Thanks!
Thank You Justin! Yes, the Freewell is blooming a lot more, or at least a lot more obviously than the PolarPro. The PolarPro comes in more subtle and delicately, if you want something a little smoother and closer to 1/8th, sure, the PolarPro is the way to go!
PolarPro look better for me, but it is like you say, it the individual preference :)
Yes, totally personal preference, and I guess what look you're going for in the project. They are both as sharp as each other when it comes to details, but the Freewell seems to bloom in places as much as the Tiffen 1/4 and whereas the PolarPro blooms a little less and has deeper blacks. Both excellent filters.
Very informative video. Definitely considering.. one question.. does it also perform job of polarizing filter ? i mean cut the reflections from water and things like that ?
Thank You! No, I'm afraid it doesn't do that, you'd need to stack in this case or buy a CPL/ND.
@@PhillipSkraba I wanted to buy a 82mm VND + CPL hybrid filter for my sigma 24-70mm lens. Could you suggest some filters apart from PeterM edition which I find v expensive.
VND CPL you say, sure, they aren’t many companies that make those but K&F Concept do, for a good price too. Neewer make one too, not sure about that one though.
@@PhillipSkraba, @shivam kumar,
Yes there is a step up ring (different sizes) + VND (1.5-10 stops) + CP filters combined from H&Y called Revoring. They are finishing up and should send their Kickstarter/Indiegogo around March/April. I assume afterwards, it’ll be available to the public.
The only problem is that any focal length less than 70mm, you may see X patterns from 5 stops and above. They plan on making a magnetic add-on 3-stop filter that allows you to start at +3 stops as zero stops. For example, if you start at +1.5 stops, with the add-on, you start at +4.5 stops and can go up to +7.5 stops without any X patterns on focal lengths less than 70mm.
Phillip, hope you can compare the H&Y Revorings with the rest of the ones you currently have. Phillip Bloom has a video on it.
The other negative is it’s big but the convenient all-in-one outweighs the negative for me. I should be getting it sometime in March.
Ooh man, not liking that colour cast on either of them - just fix it in post is just setting you up for pain and makes choices like white balance a little redundant. The Tiffen BPM clearly destroys them both. I have the K&F concept 1/8 mist filter with no colour cast. Thinking might be better to stack a high quality variable or fixed ND with a high quality mist instead. Thanks for the video though, very handy.
I have to try out the K&F, I have every other one, so I'll make sure to check those out. I've never been bothered about the cast, for me it's a second in colour correction just to clean anything up if needed. Stacking is okay, but not ideal. It all really depends what you're doing. You're welcome Rob!
@@PhillipSkraba I guess it depends on the job, but I shoot weddings with lots of multicam going on, don't wanna have to match every camera :) I opted for the Alter RS style hinged filter holders, so I'll keep the pro mist on all the time and flip the ND up/down when needed.
That's a good move, I use the Ulanzi ones, same deal, flip up and out of the way.
Thanks Again Phillip - I Now will Not but putting shit on my lenses and I see you are still keeping it up! Keep up the Great Work 😊👍
Thank You David, yes, please don't, it makes a mess!
@@PhillipSkraba , Bro, regarding the brand and quality, freewell ND filters for my Mini 2, do you think that would be ok? Thanks so much brother!
@@phillipcsandoval9094 Sure! They are excellent! You can find links for the ones I use under my Mini 2 videos.
Welp, just placed my order for the 82mm Freewell variable ND Mist 6-9 stop. I already have a Simmod 82mm variable ND with a DIY mist filter (thanks plasti dip!) but not having to deal with multiple filters will be nice.
Excellent choice, it's a really great one. Simmod, damn that's a rare one. I've got quite a few videos I need to drop on mist filters, one of them will no doubt be on DIY ones. Yes, it's nice not to stack!
Did you compare Freewell mist VND to its regular VND?
No, but I have that planned.
Amazing video 🔥 Hey quick question.. as the freewell vnd (no mist edition) is also mangnetic, do you know if you can attach any of the magnetic mist filters to it using the magnetic power?? Does it makes sense? I would like to buy the vnd - no mist edition - and only attach the mist filter when needed, but it would be a pain if I can’t do it easyly using the magnets.. cause if this is the case, I would prefer the mist edition vnd... I hope you can help me out with that in order to make a decision, and btw, of course you can count on my affiliate purchase ;)
Hey, No front thread on VND & we do not recommend any stacking on them.
only the lens cap is magnetic on VND the filter itself is threaded.
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Got it, it’s a good one!
Great vídeo 🚀Question : what do you think about the freewell VndXMist filters ?specially for Music video In Miami
They’re great, I use them myself!
Saw another vid that found the freewell 2-5 and 6-9 didn’t match - the latter had way more bloom while the two PPs were consistent - thoughts?
The 6-9 I find to be a touch less bloom, but not much. I don't think it's something you'll notice unless you have two images next to each other, and who does that.
Thanks great video!
is there any issue with using Freewell vnd (not mist) + black pro mist 1/8 on it? i heard some people have vignetting with using them together.
I have a tiffen pm 1/8 abnd i want to order freewell vnd not mist version.
It really depends on your lens, at 16mm, sure, it'll vignette, but at 20mm you should be fine. It also depends on the width of your Tiffen, my Tiffen VND is wide as hell, so it vignettes a lot when stacked. Stack a filter on your Tiffen and test it out to see what mm you're able to get away with.
should i go for the 2-5 or 6-9 for general vlogging? I usually shoot 24fps at 1/50
I would personally go with the 2-5, that's the one I use 99% of the time.
First! My man's this video rocks! You need to be a film maker!
That's more or less what I've done for the last 15 years 🤜🏻🔥🤛🏻
Also, just as you were asking about glass, there is an example in this video of bad quality glass, you can't fix that stuff in post.
@@PhillipSkraba Ha ha ha...yeah I felt as if you were talking to me directly! LOL Thanks bro, I understand what you're saying! Are you making more Mini 2 videos? I would love to get a video on Mini 2 camera moves - like the one I sent to you earlier today - just feel you would explain it better. :-)
@@PhillipSkraba What I meant was like film - as in movies - like Hollywood level movies. You honestly are so talented brat!
Oh yes, I'll be making more. At the moment I'm doing my best to balance all the other videos I need to be making though. I'll drop a few Mini 2 videos this coming month though for balance 🔥
Very nicely lit and filmed👍 looks great. I plan to use one of those lens rubber shades to screw-on on the Freewell. Does it have threads on the front side?
I find it handy and light weight to work that way.
Thank You Martin! You mean the PolarPro 360 defender? It's a rubber grip, no thread on it at all, it just grips the on the lens nice and tight.
@@PhillipSkraba No, I meant on Freewell at the front of it does it have threads so I could screw on a lens hood?
In your comparison starting at 7:58, are you setting your white balance before or after putting on the filters? Because you keep adjusting WB in post. I’m just wondering if I’d still have to adjust WB in post even if I adjusted for WB after putting the filter on. Thanks!
My camera is set at 5600k always, 24hr/7 365 days a year, unless some serious shit goes down. The image you see here is exactly what you get, unless you graded.
@@PhillipSkraba ok 👍🏻 I’ll probably try doing both. I’ve learned that setting white balance after applying filter saves time in post.
I don't really find too much of a shift happens on either one, at least not one so bad a product or person becomes green or purple.
Hi mate, can I use this as only ND filter with out mist? So that I don't I can have both mist and non mist in one product. Sorry, I am a beginner and this may be a silly question. Great video.. Thanks a ton.
I'm afraid these are mist and vnd, if you'd like to use them separately you'd need to stack. So a mist filter and screw a vnd on top of that, it's not ideal, but that's how we do it. Anytime!
Great review man! Thank u for this
You’re welcome!
Very informative vid, I think I will order the Freewell!
Thank You! Both are great, so either way, you've made a great choice! It's all about preference here.
Very informative! Thank you! 🙏
You’re welcome!
Do you have a link for that Tiffen? I thought the tiffen looked best. Not a fan of the cold tint the freewell and polar pro tack on
Sure I do! The Tiffen is a cult classic, it's stunning - amzn.to/354gsqU
@@PhillipSkraba thanks! This is just a mist filter, not VND right? Do you think a mist VND is fine as the only nd? I wonder if I will not want the mist on my filter occasionally, how do you feel about that?
That's correct, just mist. It is THE mist filter. Well, I wouldn't and don't want mist all the time, so the mist vnd is great when you need it and want it, otherwise it's a little useless.
What are your thoughts on putting the tiffen mist with the polarpro non mist 2-5???
I've done it, works in a similar way, but on wider lenses it will vignette, which is a bummer, so then this type of hybrid filter works great.
I find the freewell muddy. Too bad.
I didn't want to have to get the polar pro. :/
Really? It's definitely a different bloom, the PolarPro controls the highlights in a completely different manner. I guess it's really a personal preference.
I much prefer the opening shot sequence over the closing ones by a lot. It's funny because I always lift my blacks when grading too. But I like the understated quality of the PPM2 it feels more natural. That and I can always lift blacks or add a tiny bit more bloom in post, but it can be iffy at best trying to reduce it.
I'm not looking for a special effects filter. I want something that is usable most of the time to reduce digital harshnesh.
I really appreciate your video comparison.
The polarpro is giving me reverse glimmer glass vibes.
The PolarPro has a cool vibe to it, the Freewell has a slightly more out of control feeling.
Nice video! I’ll be ordering the Freewell.
Thank You! It's a great choice and has a solid amount of flaring, the quality of glass is excellent. Links are in the description if you need them 🤜🏻🤛🏻
Thank you for this
You're welcome!
haha! I like it. She likes it.
Yes she does!
The PolarPro is more like a Tiffen 1/8, not 1/4. The professional Tiffen comes in 1/8, 1/4. 1/2, 1 and 2. None of the other Brands offer that professional choice when You i.e. want to react on too strong highlights.
It seems Tiffen is untouched in mist thing
What can I say, Tiffen is the cult classic of them all.
Tiffen all day every day
Yeah? Tiffen don’t have a vnd mist. I do use their Mist 1/4 a lot though, it’s a different feel. Video coming on that and every single mist you can imagine.
@@PhillipSkraba sadly not yet eh, but for now we got the polarpros
I loved polar pro look more
It has a slightly more controlled look in places, sure!
Mine did not come in a metal box
I think boxes change with time, remember us RUclipsrs always get slightly different pre-production versions.
@@PhillipSkraba yeah that’s true. I was kinda disappointed when I got mine two days ago and it was a plastic one. Still, the thing is going to live on my 24-70 so I guess it doesn’t matter. The magnetic cover is a nice touch
@@TheLinesEnd I rarely put mine in the box when I'm using it, unless I'm travelling and constantly changing setups. The filter is great, I'm sure it'll make you proud.
@@PhillipSkraba it’s great. I noticed that it really makes the bokeh smooth and it makes noise look less…noisy
There was only one, that didn't make the lady in the living room look too blurry
Blurry, really? Maybe RUclips did something there, both are very sharp on my screen.
@@PhillipSkraba Now that you say that, its possible, that my playback resolution was lower than I thought.
But yet, at whatever resolution I ended up having, one remained sharper than the other...
Now I'm going to have to watch it again lol...
Maybe, if you watch your video at like 480p, its possible that you see a difference - which could be irrelevant or not. If footage is the same at high resolution, but at low resolution one looks better than the other - I guess one filter would then be better for low resolution content?
It's possible that's just an optical illusion depending on how the mists bloom in different ways. The Freewell has a totally different bloom than the PolarPro, it's really down to taste and your needs for a certain project. However, on footage I've taken since, both are as sharp as each other, the PolarPro does have a more controlled bloom though. I am currently working on a mist filter comparison, as soon as I get the last mist I'm waiting for I'll start filming comparisons and that'll be out asap.
@@PhillipSkraba Awesome :)
There's a lot of mist on the mountain where I live ;-D
And before you know it, it turned into fog...
Thanks :) waiting for your next mist review
You're welcome! I have all the filter except for one, the Hollywood. As soon as I get that, it's on.
@@PhillipSkraba great! :)
I would simply buy them both, problem solved 👍
That sounds like the best plan, and that would work if you have the finances to cover that of course, not everyone has.
the best mist filter is cling foil for 99 cent .
Well, I wouldn't agree with that, mind you I did use cling film and vaseline in my early days, using a real glass filter however works a lot better 😂
@@PhillipSkraba I was using diffuser glass from Cokin P on Nikon D80 ages ago , thanks FujiFilm I can set up everything inside the body with advanced filters - soft focus , the same results without spending single penny :) I can also grade with film stimulations in 100s ways to get fine effect like in Hollywood without any software. Tons of features including bleaching blacks and dulling whites .
With FreeWell it's not a matter of it the Magnetic filters will fails it's when. I love the glass and the filter itself but it is the intrinsic nature of the magnet to where out and both mine did with in a year and a half. The cover it very important to me so boo FreeWell.
I wish you did more example and less talking head bits. You could have done a voice over for the whole video and it would have been perfect. :) I mean we are here to see a comparison not watch you talk :) But I totally agree. Don't put shit on your lens. hahahahahaa.
You’re totally here to watch me talk, otherwise I’d radio show. I think these examples are sufficient, the Freewell blooms a lot more in a slightly different way, the PolarPro is more controlled in its bloom. Like I said, it’s very much an artistic choice, I like both. Oh yeah, don’t put anything cheap on your lens or it’ll be a mess. All the best!