Finally somone able to explain everything well in calm way, without "whatsupguys", a cap on the head, and talking nonsense like they are on speed . THANK YOU !!
The problem about photography community is that it is too small that everyone knows each other. As a result, because the “whatsupguy” is famous now, everyone want to flatter him. No one dare to say the dark truth about the product he engaged in. That’s why a lot of camera gear review today sounds like nonsense.
Beware of the Freewell ND - I bought a set in the 82mm size, and they were wonderful. I bought them because of the neat stops (Haptic Feedback) when you get to the various ND settings as well as the hard stop at the end. The "haptic feedback" along with the excellent color and build quality were what made me decide to buy a second set in 67mm. BEWARE. You will NOT get the "haptic feedback" in the 67mm size which was one of the selling points of these ND filters. I reached out to Freewell's customer service as to why, and here is what they said - "Thanks for your message. They are exactly as it says on the box HARD STOP. Hard stop means that it should not go beyond 5 & 9 stops thats precisely what it does. What you are referring to is HAPTIC FEEDBACK which we have recently added in some of the products to see the feedback; it has not been applied to all the sizes & all the filters, nor are we claiming on the product." So a major selling point for these filters turns out to be a GAMBLE as to which ones have the "haptic feedback" or not. One star for misleading/omission of a critical feature of these ND filters.
@@camadamedia6728 they are a good purchase, just be aware that when I made the comment above, some had "Haptic feedback" and some didn't, and the company did not specify which ones did and did not have.
! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Magnet system is good but during hiking activity I incidentally dropped one of the lens. Now my set of magnetic VNDs capability dropped to 50%. I have tried to find separate lens on the market but not successful. Full set of MVNDS costs 400$. Guys take in to consideration this Info. Now I preferer to use threaded VNDs only ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
Vnd sucks for the color cast. I bought the magnetic non-variable nd and screwed on the magnetic base onto a nisi true color vnd. This vnd system is a waste of money.
you should be a therapist...your voice is just so calming...if i can't sleep, from now on i put on one of your videos, not because they are boring but because of your voice...honestly you should read and sell child books audio....
I think I may be the type of hybrid shooter who could benefit from this system and I already have one of their filters. However, i was having a hard time with your comparisons. if the left side is not the same as the right side, how can one gauge color shifts due to the filter? Maybe I haven't been doing it long enough, but I need the standard and the "thing" to be based on the same exact image otherwise it just doesn't work.
Hi. I’m interested in this product but can’t test them out. So wanted to know about Image quality? I’m more of a serious hobbyist. N plan to use them for long exposure and time lapse photography.
I would love to know the answer to the subject no one seems to cover, the lens hood problem with variable ND's and do you in fact need a lens hood with a variable ND.
This is very cool but as Polar Pro did as well with their VND Mist edition. There is no way of using the diffusion filters without losing light stops. And there are a lot of use cases when you would like to use them in dark conditions.
Great concept, Buuuuuut.....I had a magnetic filter system for a point and shoot camera and once you set your camera down anywhere near the ground/dirt it would pick up all of the magnetic debris (grime) from the ground. It was then very difficult to get the debris off of the magnet. Pain in the arse. I can see this magnetic system doing the same thing.
man how do you not have a million followers. you are awesome compared to a lot of the ones i have watched. i like your style of explaining. i interrupted a movie to watch this lol. #subscribed
Are there step up rings for this system? Or I guess in my case, step down rings? I have the Canon 28-70 and I would need to purchase the 96mm system and then use step down rings for my 67 and 77mm lenses.
would be nice to get these but at the moment you can only get the viarble ND with other filters for 400€ - dumb marketing, they would sell so much more for a reasonable price...
The case is weird, the smaller filter rings are able to rub against the glass of the adjacent larger filter. Not a very convincing presentation, as the idea of adding haze is just also weird, as you can do that in post. The reason a slow working tripod landscape guy wants magnetic filters is to not disturb the setup, which may have been difficult to set up. So it's not all about run & gun. Someone should make filters that just attach like lens caps, to hell with both threads & magnets.
After watching several videos, this is the first one that clearly explains the system. The first review I watched just explained how a polarising filter is used! I have been using them for decades. Excellent review. Thanks.
I've just discovered your channel - and it's refreshing to hear from someone who knows what they're talking about and is not trying so hard to connect with their audience. Like your style - thanks
Hey Todd, very helpful video! I have a question✌ "What's the proper way of applying this system to more lenses (with different diameters)? Buing the system at the largest diameter (82mm) and using a step up ring (62-82mm)?
I love the magnetic system. But the color casts just throw me off. Is there anything similar that's better for color accuracy with the magnetic system?
Thank you for the comprehensive review. I just ordered one. I'm just wondering if it going to work with h&y revoring adapter. I just alot of money on Freewell system for my 67 lens and now I'm going up to 77 and 95. Also I'm wondering if they will get more addon filters that's compatible with this system
Hey Todd, to fix the issue you mention at the end -- being stuck with a 1-stop base filter -- can't you use Freewell's magnetic 0-stop UV filter (purchased separately) as the base filter? Then pop the 2-5 or 6-9 filters on and off of that. Would that work?
Hey! Thanks for this really informative video. I've been looking to buy a set of VND filters but was also fascinated by the look of the Moment CineBloom 10% on EOS R footage. Obviously if I can get both functions in this set I'll grab it but I'm worried about getting too much halation which I don't like. Would you say the Freewell mist included here approximates to CineBloom 10% or 1/8 strength to use Freewells metric? Cheers and thanks for all your help!
Freewell's mist is pretty strong. If you're not shooting primes only I advise against mist filters. Mist filters come in strengths so that you can match looks. E.g. If I like 1/4 look on 50mm, I would but 1/2 for 24mm, and 1/8 for 85mm-100mm. The more telephoto your lens is, the more it "zooms in" and increases the effects of diffusion. So diffusion filters by nature work the worst on zoom lenses. I would personally go for something like Tiffen Glimmerglass or Black Satin as those don't increase halation with strength, only the softening effect.
I'm wondering what are the cross-polarisation effects with this kind of setup? The white balance shift is easy enough to correct but often with stronger settings on a VND you will get inconsistent colour shifts across different parts of the frame, which is really tough to correct accurately. Though if it has a ND base filter (or is an LPL?) and CPL front filter, maybe there wont be cross polarisation like there would be with dual CPL setups?
Hey Todd, I'm getting back into photography after a very LOOOONG time. Just wondering if using a UV filter for lens protection is still a thing and if so how does this system figure into that calculation when making a purchase decision. Thanks!
I'm really enjoying using my set. I purchased another base ring and another lens cap. That way I can use another lens that is already set up to use the filters. My Sigma 16mm 1.4 and Sony 18-200mm can then be immediately swapped without having to unscrew the base ring. The Sony 200-600mm has to get its own personal filter due to the size! ;-)
Just bought the Kase Wolverine Magnetic system and this pops up. From you usage did you notice any of the cross hatches or X's when using the VND side? Might return the Kase system and pick this up. Have you used the Kase Wolverine system or their Skyeye system?
Great review thanks, do you know if you are still able to use the lens hood with the Freewell on? I can use the lens hood and still mount my Hoya variable ND. Thanks!
Thanks Todd- very helpful. I looked to see if you have previously reviewed Breakthrough filters and didn’t find one. Can you compare the Freewell to Breakthrough in terms of color accuracy. Also, does Freewell sell step up filters? When I got them for Breaktrhrough they immediately locked up and almost became unusable! Thanks. Geoff
Great video, as always. I have a question unrelated to the product in your video. Can you please tell me what kind of a table top tripod do you use? If you can also tell me what kind of ball head connection you use for the tripod, that would also be great! Thank you and looking forward to your next video!
Really depends on the lenses you plan on using. For me, 82mm is the largest size I require. That most likely won’t change, for I doubt a larger diameter RF lens will be in my future. I’d recommend doing research on any lenses you’re thinking of buying someday to see if they’re larger than 82.
Unfortunately no, the magnetized mounts won't stick together. That said, the VND base (inside the adapter) plus the density of the CPL creates about a 2-3 stop reduction in exposure, so just using those two may create enough density for your needs.
and why do you prefer this over Magnetic fixed NDs from Freewell? you can stack them, and can swap them same fast... they just better? and you can combine them with CPL - so you can have any of the ND number + CPL, and there is no color cast i think? just curious to hear your opinion, thank you in advance... also classical 2-5 and 6-9 (non-magnetic) is good, because they have inner and outer thread - so you can add Diffusion or any thing else on top of the VND
Main benefit is that these are variable NDs, not solid NDs. I prefer variable NDs for shooting run-and-gun video because they provide more flexibility when controlling exposure.
It depends on the camera body and lens (they're all a little different), but I didn't have a problem with vignette on my Canon EF 16-35mm at 16mm on my R5.
Great question. Yes, I’m still using them, but not always. Because these are VNDs, cross polarization can sometimes be a problem (where the edges of the frame get darker and/or lighter). So when I’m being really particular about video, I use solid NDs. For run and gun, quick stuff, vlogging, I use these VNDs.
@@dominey thank you very much. I’m afraid of the run n gun camera bounce and body hit that may make the magnets detach and fall. Nissi is looking good but the versatility of these seem to be pretty spot on
Todd these ND filters from Freewell are pure shit. While shooting the sky, you can see soo much vignete on just one side, also they have green/purple tint. They are pure crap.
This is one of the easiest videos I ever watched to follow from the point of view of a complete beginner. Thanks for such a great content
Now. I actually understand how it all works. great video, best explanation and detail infomations. nice work. I enjoyed every minute of it.
Finally somone able to explain everything well in calm way, without "whatsupguys", a cap on the head, and talking nonsense like they are on speed . THANK YOU !!
I haven't laughed this hard at a RUclips comment in a long time 😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂 a pleasure
The problem about photography community is that it is too small that everyone knows each other. As a result, because the “whatsupguy” is famous now, everyone want to flatter him. No one dare to say the dark truth about the product he engaged in. That’s why a lot of camera gear review today sounds like nonsense.
Purchased with your link. What a genius product for my job.
What do you shoot mainly?
Beware of the Freewell ND - I bought a set in the 82mm size, and they were wonderful. I bought them because of the neat stops (Haptic Feedback) when you get to the various ND settings as well as the hard stop at the end. The "haptic feedback" along with the excellent color and build quality were what made me decide to buy a second set in 67mm.
BEWARE.
You will NOT get the "haptic feedback" in the 67mm size which was one of the selling points of these ND filters. I reached out to Freewell's customer service as to why, and here is what they said - "Thanks for your message. They are exactly as it says on the box HARD STOP. Hard stop means that it should not go beyond 5 & 9 stops thats precisely what it does. What you are referring to is HAPTIC FEEDBACK which we have recently added in some of the products to see the feedback; it has not been applied to all the sizes & all the filters, nor are we claiming on the product."
So a major selling point for these filters turns out to be a GAMBLE as to which ones have the "haptic feedback" or not. One star for misleading/omission of a critical feature of these ND filters.
Meh
Hello, Lauren ! please, Do you still keep them? In 2023, I want to buy them, do you think they are a good purchase?
thank you
@@camadamedia6728 they are a good purchase, just be aware that when I made the comment above, some had "Haptic feedback" and some didn't, and the company did not specify which ones did and did not have.
@@laurenoe TK
Best tutorial of these VND filters on RUclips. Concise and comprehensible presentation. Well done Todd.
! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Magnet system is good but during hiking activity I incidentally dropped one of the lens. Now my set of magnetic VNDs capability dropped to 50%. I have tried to find separate lens on the market but not successful. Full set of MVNDS costs 400$. Guys take in to consideration this Info. Now I preferer to use threaded VNDs only ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
Vnd sucks for the color cast. I bought the magnetic non-variable nd and screwed on the magnetic base onto a nisi true color vnd. This vnd system is a waste of money.
you should be a therapist...your voice is just so calming...if i can't sleep, from now on i put on one of your videos, not because they are boring but because of your voice...honestly you should read and sell child books audio....
I think I may be the type of hybrid shooter who could benefit from this system and I already have one of their filters. However, i was having a hard time with your comparisons. if the left side is not the same as the right side, how can one gauge color shifts due to the filter? Maybe I haven't been doing it long enough, but I need the standard and the "thing" to be based on the same exact image otherwise it just doesn't work.
Great video on these Freewell magnetics Todd! I just bought the set. Absolutely love these! Great channel, subbed!
Hi. I’m interested in this product but can’t test them out. So wanted to know about Image quality? I’m more of a serious hobbyist. N plan to use them for long exposure and time lapse photography.
And the colour cast, can that be easily corrected by changing WB if shooting RAW.
Hello, ! Do you still keep them? In 2023, I want to buy them, do you think they are a good purchase?
thank you
I would love to know the answer to the subject no one seems to cover, the lens hood problem with variable ND's and do you in fact need a lens hood with a variable ND.
Finally, a professional and easy to understand review. Thanks Todd. I will now be able to order these with more confidence.
This is very cool but as Polar Pro did as well with their VND Mist edition. There is no way of using the diffusion filters without losing light stops. And there are a lot of use cases when you would like to use them in dark conditions.
Great concept, Buuuuuut.....I had a magnetic filter system for a point and shoot camera and once you set your camera down anywhere near the ground/dirt it would pick up all of the magnetic debris (grime) from the ground. It was then very difficult to get the debris off of the magnet. Pain in the arse. I can see this magnetic system doing the same thing.
man how do you not have a million followers. you are awesome compared to a lot of the ones i have watched. i like your style of explaining. i interrupted a movie to watch this lol. #subscribed
Agree
Cant u just recalibrate white balance in camera after putting on the nd? Or is it still warmer anyways for some reason?
Are there step up rings for this system? Or I guess in my case, step down rings? I have the Canon 28-70 and I would need to purchase the 96mm system and then use step down rings for my 67 and 77mm lenses.
would be nice to get these but at the moment you can only get the viarble ND with other filters for 400€ - dumb marketing, they would sell so much more for a reasonable price...
The case is weird, the smaller filter rings are able to rub against the glass of the adjacent larger filter. Not a very convincing presentation, as the idea of adding haze is just also weird, as you can do that in post. The reason a slow working tripod landscape guy wants magnetic filters is to not disturb the setup, which may have been difficult to set up. So it's not all about run & gun. Someone should make filters that just attach like lens caps, to hell with both threads & magnets.
After watching several videos, this is the first one that clearly explains the system. The first review I watched just explained how a polarising filter is used! I have been using them for decades.
Excellent review. Thanks.
Is there’s step up base ring i can use for 49mm?
Great video and nice system, but man, that seems like a lot of work. I just want to be able to snap one on and be done.
I've just discovered your channel - and it's refreshing to hear from someone who knows what they're talking about and is not trying so hard to connect with their audience. Like your style - thanks
Corner of that tripod is so close to the edge of the table... had me concerned the whole time
Great Filter (magnetic) review. thanks for sharing
Hey Todd, very helpful video! I have a question✌ "What's the proper way of applying this system to more lenses (with different diameters)? Buing the system at the largest diameter (82mm) and using a step up ring (62-82mm)?
Yes, that's how I use mine. I use the 82mm with a set of step up rings.
Très mauvais...
Il y a bien meilleur !
I love the magnetic system. But the color casts just throw me off. Is there anything similar that's better for color accuracy with the magnetic system?
In the variable ND space, probably not. You might look into solid NDs for better color cast performance.
Will it solve the wihite balance shifting by taking a custom WB for video?
Thanks for talking about the cons. I can't have color cast. I'm probably going to try their solid magnetic system.
Does their fix ND have colour cast?
Fantastic overview thank you, the only part missing was showing the colour cast and tonal change of the 2 filters flipped in CPL mode.
Hi , i’m so confused about this system ,
i have two lens 16mm 1.4 and 18-105mm i don’t know which size of step up ring and ND Filter should i Buy ?
Freewell should be able to create a "tool" for removing the base filter. Something like a lens cap with much stronger magnets.
Yeah, or some kind of spring-enabled latch would be great.
Thank you for the comprehensive review. I just ordered one. I'm just wondering if it going to work with h&y revoring adapter. I just alot of money on Freewell system for my 67 lens and now I'm going up to 77 and 95. Also I'm wondering if they will get more addon filters that's compatible with this system
Hello ! do you still keep them? In 2023, I want to buy them, do you think they are a good purchase?
And what about the system Revoring h&y ? Thank you
Hey Todd, to fix the issue you mention at the end -- being stuck with a 1-stop base filter -- can't you use Freewell's magnetic 0-stop UV filter (purchased separately) as the base filter? Then pop the 2-5 or 6-9 filters on and off of that. Would that work?
Hey! Thanks for this really informative video. I've been looking to buy a set of VND filters but was also fascinated by the look of the Moment CineBloom 10% on EOS R footage. Obviously if I can get both functions in this set I'll grab it but I'm worried about getting too much halation which I don't like. Would you say the Freewell mist included here approximates to CineBloom 10% or 1/8 strength to use Freewells metric? Cheers and thanks for all your help!
Freewell's mist is pretty strong. If you're not shooting primes only I advise against mist filters. Mist filters come in strengths so that you can match looks. E.g. If I like 1/4 look on 50mm, I would but 1/2 for 24mm, and 1/8 for 85mm-100mm. The more telephoto your lens is, the more it "zooms in" and increases the effects of diffusion. So diffusion filters by nature work the worst on zoom lenses. I would personally go for something like Tiffen Glimmerglass or Black Satin as those don't increase halation with strength, only the softening effect.
I'm wondering what are the cross-polarisation effects with this kind of setup? The white balance shift is easy enough to correct but often with stronger settings on a VND you will get inconsistent colour shifts across different parts of the frame, which is really tough to correct accurately. Though if it has a ND base filter (or is an LPL?) and CPL front filter, maybe there wont be cross polarisation like there would be with dual CPL setups?
Hey Todd, I'm getting back into photography after a very LOOOONG time. Just wondering if using a UV filter for lens protection is still a thing and if so how does this system figure into that calculation when making a purchase decision. Thanks!
I'm really enjoying using my set. I purchased another base ring and another lens cap. That way I can use another lens that is already set up to use the filters. My Sigma 16mm 1.4 and Sony 18-200mm can then be immediately swapped without having to unscrew the base ring. The Sony 200-600mm has to get its own personal filter due to the size! ;-)
When the VND is in, if say you're walking around or on a hike, can the top filter fall off?
What about circular polarization on a wide lens? Have you experienced that?
Just bought the Kase Wolverine Magnetic system and this pops up. From you usage did you notice any of the cross hatches or X's when using the VND side?
Might return the Kase system and pick this up.
Have you used the Kase Wolverine system or their Skyeye system?
what an awesome video, i was looking for video like this before buying, thanks man
Great review thanks, do you know if you are still able to use the lens hood with the Freewell on? I can use the lens hood and still mount my Hoya variable ND. Thanks!
Perfect review, thanks so much for making it! 🤩 Liked and subscribed 👍🏻
Spectacular overview. Thank you for your valuable time.
Thanks for this video... I have been looking for a filter system and this one should fit to bill perfectly for my needs. 😃
Probably a dumb question, but can you still use adapter rings with it?
Thanks Todd- very helpful. I looked to see if you have previously reviewed Breakthrough filters and didn’t find one. Can you compare the Freewell to Breakthrough in terms of color accuracy. Also, does Freewell sell step up filters? When I got them for Breaktrhrough they immediately locked up and almost became unusable! Thanks. Geoff
Todd, your channel is UNDERRATED!
Great video, as always. I have a question unrelated to the product in your video. Can you please tell me what kind of a table top tripod do you use? If you can also tell me what kind of ball head connection you use for the tripod, that would also be great! Thank you and looking forward to your next video!
No link to the polarizer video. Liking this one so far though!
Thanks for the great video. Have you stacked these filters? If so how did it work for you? Thanks again.
Hoping tod will answer all out questions lol.
this was a really nice review! learned a lot! :)
Good review! Polar pro vnd vs this, what are your thoughts?
Hi nice video I see they have Kickstarter for that and they have option of buying there this set in 95mm size would you go for 95 or 82 ??
Really depends on the lenses you plan on using. For me, 82mm is the largest size I require. That most likely won’t change, for I doubt a larger diameter RF lens will be in my future. I’d recommend doing research on any lenses you’re thinking of buying someday to see if they’re larger than 82.
Best information on this filter system out there. Thank you.
Is that possible to stack the CPL with the VND 6-9stop?
Unfortunately no, the magnetized mounts won't stick together. That said, the VND base (inside the adapter) plus the density of the CPL creates about a 2-3 stop reduction in exposure, so just using those two may create enough density for your needs.
this was great ty! I just pulled mine out of the box and I'm really impressed with it.
Hello ! do you still keep them? In 2023, I want to buy them, do you think they are a good purchase?
thank you
I want to buy the 82 size filter but I also have lens that are smaller size. Can I use any step up rings to attach the freewell filter?
You sure can use step up rings to attach the base ring to your lenses!
Great video!!
Can you use the mist base filter alone, as a mist filter with no ND?
Yep. I've used it this way numerous times.
@@dominey Thanks.
Great video! Love how concise you were, how much information you conveyed, and the overall look of your production. Thank you for making this.
and why do you prefer this over Magnetic fixed NDs from Freewell? you can stack them, and can swap them same fast... they just better? and you can combine them with CPL - so you can have any of the ND number + CPL, and there is no color cast i think?
just curious to hear your opinion, thank you in advance...
also classical 2-5 and 6-9 (non-magnetic) is good, because they have inner and outer thread - so you can add Diffusion or any thing else on top of the VND
Main benefit is that these are variable NDs, not solid NDs. I prefer variable NDs for shooting run-and-gun video because they provide more flexibility when controlling exposure.
@@dominey and what do you think about this system after sometime now? Did you switch to it?
Yes. I use these for video. Still photography I prefer solid ND filter systems (like the PolarPro Summit).
Does it cause any vignetting on a 16mm FF focal length?
It depends on the camera body and lens (they're all a little different), but I didn't have a problem with vignette on my Canon EF 16-35mm at 16mm on my R5.
@@dominey Ok good to hear. I was worried the stacking of the different filter elements would cause this.
can I ask what is the brand of that mini tripod?
They’ve changed the design a little (bought it a few years ago), but it’s made by Leofoto. Here’s the link: geni.us/5ELl
@@dominey thanks Todd!
Hi Todd. A year later, are you still using these? What are your long-term thought?
Great question. Yes, I’m still using them, but not always. Because these are VNDs, cross polarization can sometimes be a problem (where the edges of the frame get darker and/or lighter). So when I’m being really particular about video, I use solid NDs. For run and gun, quick stuff, vlogging, I use these VNDs.
@@dominey thank you very much. I’m afraid of the run n gun camera bounce and body hit that may make the magnets detach and fall. Nissi is looking good but the versatility of these seem to be pretty spot on
Todd these ND filters from Freewell are pure shit. While shooting the sky, you can see soo much vignete on just one side, also they have green/purple tint. They are pure crap.