Ryanair: Why Such HARD LANDINGS?
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Hey guys, welcome to another Aviation Today video, great to have you here! Today's topic is about Ryanair's infamous hard landings: why do they happen and what are the potential reasons behind it? I hope you enjoy!
As a side note, I would like to apologize to you all for my inconsistency with uploads as of late. I was rather busy the last few weeks, which is why there was no upload last week. I will try my best to maintain a consistent upload schedule, but as I've mentioned before, it may not always work out. Thanks for understanding.
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Ryanair charge extra for softer landings.
10/10
Hahaha...
they removed the suspension from the landing gear and replaced it with a solid metal rod because it's cheaper to maintain
Shouldn't they being trying to do softer landings then? Lol
How stupid to hear that for a low cost company. It implies that "expensive" airlines provide comfort for free😂😂😂
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Lol this was funny
@Amtrak Dash-8 no.500 you mean the best worst landing
Others airlines: prepare for landing
Ryanair: brace for impact
Yep
Almost correct, we usually say:
HEAD DOWN, GRAB ANKLE, STAY DOWN!
@@bluecaptainIT At Lufthansa the command is „Safety Position, Safety Position, STAY IN SAFETY POSITION, Safety Position, Safety Position, STAY IN SAFETY POSITION, Safety Position, Safety Position, STAY IN SAFETY POSITION, Safety Position, Safety Position, STAY IN SAFETY POSITION, Safety Position, Safety Position, STAY IN SAFETY POSITION, Safety Position, Safety Position, STAY IN SAFETY POSITION, Safety Position, Safety Position, STAY IN SAFETY POSITION, Safety Position, Safety Position, STAY IN SAFETY POSITION, Safety Position, Safety Position, STAY IN SAFETY POSITION, Safety Position, Safety Position, STAY IN SAFETY POSITION, Safety Position, Safety Position, STAY IN SAFETY POSITION, Safety Position, Safety Position, STAY IN SAFETY POSITION, Safety Position, Safety Position, STAY IN SAFETY POSITION, Safety Position, Safety Position, STAY IN SAFETY POSITION, Safety Position, Safety Position, STAY IN SAFETY POSITION, Safety Position, Safety Position, STAY IN SAFETY POSITION, Safety Position, Safety Position, STAY IN SAFETY POSITION, Safety Position, Safety Position, STAY IN SAFETY POSITION, Safety Position, Safety Position, STAY IN SAFETY POSITION“
@@mstrmren I get it.
What we shout also depends whether it is a short notice (or none) and else. Besides, I've never really put what they told me to practice, COVID froze everything in place since last March.
@@bluecaptainIT Oh, ok
Normal airline: 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, butter
Ryanair: *WHOOP WHOOP PULL UP*
WHOOP WHOOP YOU SHURE? WHOOP WHOOP YOU SHURE?
You shure? Until WHOOP WHOOP PULL UP
*WHOOP WHOOP, WHOOP WHOOP* _BAM_
sigh some fucking swiss001 wannabes
SHUT UP THEY BUTTER CUZ i BEEN ON RYANAIR EVERYTIME AND BUTTER
You are sentenced to 20 landings on Ryanair.
So normal landings 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yup I experience a hard landing by Malaysia airlines
Says the judge
God, that'd break my back... I think I'll go for the 3 year prison sentence!
20landing🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ryanair is a budget airline and their flight attendants are beginners and don't know how to wake up people, so due to the hard landings it wakes up the sleeping people.
Zynex "Hey we've arrived to the damn airport bitch"
Plane lands
And they have Amateur pilots
Almost Ryanair Cabin Crew here.
It's not really that we don't know how to wake you up, it's that the Company finds new ways to screw us EVERY DAY.
@@TwoWheelDriveOnly That’s not true, their pilots are just as good as other airlines and have an exceptional safety record considering how many flights they operate. Remember that pilots for the vast majority of their training are trained at flight schools, not at their airlines.
So the majority of Ryanair pilots have come from the same flight schools as BA, Lufthansa... and many other major flag carriers/airlines around the world. One of the flight schools that they get a bulk of their pilots from is OAA for example, as do BA.
@@zacharysylvester8349 it's a joke we don't need your big brain
Most Airlines: one hundred...fifty...forty...thirty...twenty... ten
Ryanair: One-Fif-fo-tw-ten
Edit: To all of you who don't understand, this is a joke. I don't dislike Ryanair.
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@Amtrak Dash-8 no.500
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Hard landings are very common on 737s in general, and as Ryanair operate a fleet of only 737s, they have a lot of hard landings xD
Qantas only use 737s for their short haul routes within Australia, and they have great landings, never had a bad landing with them (and I fly quite regularly)
Qantas is just amazing, hehe! Flew with them a couple of times as well, never a 737 though (flew only Dash 8 Q400, 717 and A330). But it surprises me a bit, as many flights, not all, I had on a 737 were harder compared to A320s for instance. This included my flight on a 737 on Virgin Australia, that was quite a bumpy landing in Melbourne.
But yes, it is true, that Ryanair‘s landings are usually harder than the ones of other 737-operators.
@@sxflyer5410I think the reason why 737 landings tend to be harder than A320 landings is because of the fly by wire controls and the fact that the computer is designed to augment the pilots control inputs to make the landing smoother than it otherwise would be
In addition to that, the A320 has better landing gear suspension, since it is not as low to the ground as the 737, the suspension has more travel and therefore is better at absorbing impact forces
Though experience also plays a major role, a veteran 737 pilot will probably be able to perform smoother landings than an A320 pilot who is fresh out of the academy (assuming both are flying manually)
@Brian Walker maybe I get extremely lucky when I fly with them (or I am more resistant to G-Forces)
Totally agree and the 737 landing on smaller runways is also typically hard so if you were to fly Qantas thay would have a much softer landings because off the airport they fly to 🛬🛬🛬🛬
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I wana become a pilot and perfect my landing, join Ryanair and get fired
Drb Gaming amen
If u make a terrible landing, they promote u. But if u get a great landing ur fired. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@nickmar5788 sounds like soviet russia to me XD
Rory Spoons it was a joke that I came up with. I didn’t hear it from anywhere.
@@nickmar5788 this only works on Soviet Russia
*AH WHAT A HARD LANDING*
RyanAir: At Least You Got To Your Destination , STFU
I would say good Landing instead of hard Landing I love Ryanair and nobody insult their Landings
I started my flying career with Ryanair 15 years ago and have flown long and short haul since then with other companies. Point 1, re remote airports with shorter runways. Not accurate - most of them have adequate/long runways. It is true however that if you're flying onto a short runway you'll park it down hard to decrease your stopping distance - but there aren't so, so many of these on the Ryanair network - Lubeck, Santander and Derry spring to mind for shorter runways. The same is true for wet/contaminated runways.
Point 2 - yes, there are a large number of inexperienced guys going through so that is valid.
Your last point, no. No pilot will try and take the first exit to decrease turnround time - you can easily lose 5/10mins with a load sheet error, pax issues etc. Saving 30secs on the taxiway isn't going to impact anything.
In my opinion it's simple, the 737 - 800 is a stretched classic and as such is prob a bit too long with a stiff landing gear. The aircraft can be landed nicely but it's quite easy to park it on hard if you take your eye off the ball. I'd say this is the main reason allied to quite a bit of inexperience. And finally, let's not forget that with so many aircraft people are exposed to Ryanair quite a bit.
Boeing the manufacturer of the 737 specifically state in the manual that a smooth landing is not the criteria for a safe landing. Ryanair pilots are technically the best pilots out there based on their landings. True that if you have a massive runway you have more time and thus can land smoother but bottom line is you want to get on the ground and slowing down as soon as you can. They will aim specifically for the proper touchdown zone of a runway and aim to land at a landing rate of at least -150 feet per minute. A few things happen when you touch down firmly: the system properly deploys the spoilers on top of the wing, which immediately spoil the smooth airflow over the wing and remove the lifting force from the wing, this ensures the full weight of the plane is on the gear and therefore the most effective braking action. Also as soon you the wheels are firmly on the ground you get the full effectiveness of the brakes as well. The reverses can not be deployed until the plane senses it is on the ground. Finally there is an anti shimmy system on the gear to prevent shimmy which can sheer off the gear and cause a serious accident, when you land too smoothly this system might not activate properly and you get excessive gear shimmy. When a pilot properly follows the manual and puts it down firmly, he ensures the anti shimmy system kicks in, the spoiler properly deploy, the brakes are immediately working and he/she can activate the reverse thrust. These systems are the same in most airliners, so regardless a pilot should always aim for a reasonably firm landing. When you take all this into account I would probably feel safer on a Ryanair flight than most others. There are other factors you mentioned like the apron may be on the end of the runway that you’re landing on, so stopping quickly prevents a long taxi back. But most of the reasons are all safety related. Big props to the Ryanair pilots doing an outstanding job :).
Wow.. Nice Article.. 🖤
Nice explanation but you ruined the meme
Nice!
you mean they pick a spot, aim for it and hit the ground like they got hit by anti aircraft fire lol
I never heard of any of these systems failing often with soft landings...
Normal airline: 50...40...30...20...10
RyanAir: 50,10
😂 😂 😂
@Amtrak Dash-8 no.500 omg I said cancer001 internet am I funny??? Hahaha get it cancer001
Amtrak Dash-8 no.500 actual Cancer 001
It wouldn't surprise me if this was the actual truth on some of those flights
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Well here is my short experience with them. I've landed on the following airports:
- Valencia (Spain) several times
- London Stansted, several times
- Edinburgh
- Berlin Schonefeld
All landings were fine and i loved every minute of them :) All of them were in winter since i ALWAYS travel on off-season.
I'm gonna be honest, i think most of the bad reputation comes from oversensitive travelers.
Cool I’ve only traveled to sfo (San Francisco) and Oakland. The landings there are really good
Flown Ryanair so many times, never once had a bad landing. I totally agree with you
swiss001 fanboys you mean?
spot on
I've had countless bad landings on Ryanair aircraft with quite a few women letting out a quick yelp or scream. Followed by a clap.
You got the first part correct 100%. At 3:27 you should have said that hard landings are safer than soft landings as they are! A firm landing equates to less chance of floating and using more runway, less chance of go around due to floating. The Boeing FCTM of the 737 states that a soft landing is not the criteria to a safe landing, and that a firm landing is a target to reach within reason. The 737 can take about 2.8G of force upon touchdown. Most landings are between 1.2 and 1.5G. Therefore, the harder the landing, the safer it is (which will never be over 2.8G as this would potentially cause damage to the aircraft). Ryanair is now the SAFEST airline in the work on record after the Southwest incident last year.
Also a lot depends on the taxi ways.
On cheaper airlines I more often encountered hard landing and really strong braking, so the plane could take the shortest way to the gates. Every second counts.
Péter Friedrich that does happen, but usually different auto brake settings are used to achieve this
Most aircraft operating manuals that I am familiar with clearly instruct the pilots to make firm contact with the runway and discourage what laymen often refer to as "greasers"
Absolutely agree- a firmer touchdown is best practice. From an operational standpoint, planting the aircraft down where you intended and commencing positive braking sooner can allow you to only use idle reverse, quieter for pax, uses less fuel and of course..brakes are cheaper than engines.
I think it is rather ignorant of people to suggest Ryanair flight crew have inferior skills to other airlines on the basis of touchdown technique... completely ignoring the a/c type, the operators SOP’s and of course the environment they operate in.
Qantas would like a word with you
Great video, spoiled by lack of facts. The 737-800 is notoriously difficult to land, when compared to other versions of the 737. Hard landings do happen for a number of reasons, such as cadet pilots, weather etc. But having flown Ryanair a number of times, I have to say most of the landings have been smooth
Andy Ross it’s. It Ryanair if it’s smooth
737-800 needs higher landing speeds, because it has a low profile, and is quite long. Higher landing speeds mean less flare. Less flaring means you're going to have to slam the aircraft into the ground to ensure a safe landing. Simple really.
737-800 hard to land? I thought the 737-800 series was one of the easiest to land of all types I have flown. Q400 was the trickiest.
False. I have been a 737-800 pilot for about 8 years, it is not that hard to butter the bread on a landing
Then check this pilot landings: ruclips.net/user/PilotBlogAirplanesandAviation Personally I flied many many aircrafts (oldest one was small from about 1950 with NACA4412 as wing airfoil) in X-Plane, but for me, easiest to make butter landings (even in gusty crosswinds) is 737-800. Also, in 737 I can perform approach up to 2000 ft/min V/S and make butter in touchdown zone.
I actually like it. It makes it more fun.
Enrique Serrano Ok sure it makes it more fun but if it’s rlly hard then the plane has to go out of service for maintenance then they can go back into service but it’s up to the maintenance people if it’s rlly bad then that aircraft could be grounded until it’s safe to use but it wouldn’t always be safe to use. The aircraft could be grounded forever. Just like the 737 Max, but they may not stay grounded but I think they should completely rebuild and test flown to see if there reliable again but still maintenance on aircrafts are a lot of money so yeah u have to consider that.
Enrique Serrano true true
YEA BE LIKE IMMA SUE THE PILOT HE MADE MY ASS HURT LOL!
No Faith what the hell why do much hate for this innocent soul
No Faith what did he do then
I flew last weekend with Ryanair for the first time: Edinburgh to Berlin Schönefeld and back, and the Edinburgh landing was very hard. I never knew that this Ryanair were known for this, but I'd agree this was one of the hardest I have ever experienced - and I am a frequent flyer. Interesting video. Thanks.
Hi, nice video. Technically hard landings are landings that exceed 2.1 g and require a maintenance inspection, what you were intending are firm landings. And always remember: a smooth landing is not a proper criteria for a safe landing;
Safe flight
That is true. For simplicity sake, I did use them interchangeably, but you are correct. Thanks for the comment and support :).
Also causes actual permanent brain damages from the shearing forces.
@@JT4GM4K3R - 2Gs cause permanent brain damage? Are you serious?? 2Gs is nothing!
@@JT4GM4K3R 2g do not cause any damage to the human body.
Even 2 negative g won't !
At 5g, a pilot without training begins to be able to feel bad or even fall unconscious.
But even with 5g, no damages.
And fighter pilots get 9g daily without any problems to their health. But these people are no "classic" health case.
Over 10g can harm a human body.
That's why an ejection is dangerous. It shortens the body as it put so much pressure on it that it can reduce the height of the column... definitively !
A good landing is one you can walk away from
A great landing is one where you get to use the aircraft again
An excellent landing is one where your passengers will get back on the plane
I was on a Ryanair last Year and I wasn't sure if we had landed or been shot down!
Seriously any landing you walk away from is a good one, i travel Ryanair a lot and they are cheap and they fly to regional airports which suits me. - Stephen
A good landing is one you can walk away from
A great landing is one where you get to use the aircraft again
Student: was that a good landing.
Flight instructor: let me call Ryanair.
Man:Murders 5 ppl
Police:You Are sentenced to 200 landings with ryanair
200 normal landings as every airline lol
Worst than death sentence
**stick shaker** **sink rate!**
Captain: *Holds yoke back*
"Why aren't we climbing?"
Why are you making a joke about an air crash that killed over 200 people ?
@@MA-se1iv True. Should probably change that. :/
Stall warning?? More like SINK RATE
@@devd_rx lmfao
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You should really differentiate between a firm touch down and a hard landing.
A firm touch down is desirable because it eliminates the risk of floating and hydroplaning during touch down. The airplane needs the aircraft on ground signal, generally produced by wheel spin, for example for automatic spoiler deployment. With a too soft touch down you might not break a water layer and the wheels won't spin up.
A hard landing on the other hand is an expression for a certain event/incident. It is an exceedance of vertical acceleration during touch down and requires maintenance action.
Other Airlines: gentle...gentle.. - *ever so soft skimming of tarmac* - We hope you enjoyed the flight, welcome to...
Ryanair: Down! DOWN! - *landing gear COMPRESSED, backs crack* - Get Off!
The hard landing reputation started because of the reasons you mentioned but it became notorious because people only really notice and remember the bad landings which "confirm" the reputation and the bad landings are the only ones anybody ever talks about
They trained to always hit the mark no matter how hard
Yes, the main reason is to save fuel, they are also trained to have minimal engine power during approach, so that they practically just float.
Another reason could be that Ryanair operates wayyy more flights per plane than other airlines per day. So its obvious that there would be more firm landings if there were more flights.
Note: It can take up 90 mins for the brakes on an aeroplane to cool down, so they use reverse thrusters as soon as possible. This helps to cut down turn around time
Once I was flying with Ryanair from cologne to Warsaw modlin. The weather in Poland was really bad. Signs for seatbelt were activated and the captain said they will land somewhere else, cause the weather was to bad. 2 minutes later he said via micro that they changed their mind and they are preparing for landing.
Never ever heard so many people crying, speaking to God or just hoping to survive. 🤦♂️ I have this in iPhone, if you want I can send you the file 😂😂😂
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It's BS( i mean all that hard landings stereotype)
Out of 10 landings maybe 1-2 are a bit firm.
Nah I fly Ryanair all the time (40ish flights this year), and I've had maybe 2 decent landings this year
@@okok72277 Okay that's epic
Lol flew with them last year to alicante it was fine. Flew to tenerife last week it was fine. Coming back it was the roughest landing
I’m flown Ryanair many times and every time has been smooth
You are totally right every time I have flown with Ryanair (about25 times) I had a soft landinh
Marc There employees get underpaid. They take less fuel to save money etc... Go work at Ryanair you will love it!
@@raoul1595 yes but is eurowings better? If you get a product for cheap someone has to pay for it and this less fuel then needed thing is bullshit in the European Union you have to carry a specific amount of fuel
Who much did you pay
SAME! People jsut fake the hard landing and it lookes like they landed hard but they didnt
Out of the 40 odd recent flights I have had with Ryanair, only one would count as 'scarily hard' but that was down to windshear in the final 200ft of the decent. The landing I had today was pretty damn smooth to be fair. Love Ryanair.
In 2019 I flew with Ryanair between Spain and Portugal several times and I don't remember landings being rougher than average. What I do recall from my first flight with them was one of the flight attendants constantly spamming us passengers with their offers through the PA, thank God that was only a one hour flight!
I've been flying regularly since the early 1960s, both long and short haul. In my experience, Ryanair landings are no different from the norm. It just seems that they've become an easy target for the online trolls, most of whom have probly never flown with them. YMMV.
Everybody is making fun of their landings, meanwhile they never had a single crash.
I flew from East Midlands to Rome with Ryanair. Same crew both directions, 4 days apart. Pilot looked about 20 years old with a 15yr old face. Both takeoffs he used almost all of the runway before shooting up like a damned rocket with G-forces I’ve never experienced on any other flight (34 other flights). Both landings were bad too - he dropped the left wing with almost ground contact, rudderless into a slip and slammed the right landing gear down, all in good weather.
I landed at Manchester today from Prague, there was quite a lot of heavy turbulence for mile after mile on the approach and the plane was all over the place by the time we got past the threshold but the pilot did a fantastic job even with it sliding allover the runway. Was quite the thrill ride
I regularly fly the TLS-EDI route, and have had maybe one soft landing out of the entire ∼30 times I've flown the route
I was half a kilo over on baggage at East Mids, on a ticket that cost me £90. They wanted £80 surcharge for the luggage!! I wore those jumpers!
Anecdotally I can say for sure most of the hardest landings I've ever experienced were with Ryanair. To the point it was almost prophetic and something that was often joked about with other passengers with stuff like "any landing you can walk away from is a good one" when getting off a Ryanair flight.
But they are also amongst the smaller planes I've been on and they fly into a lot of windy and small airports Bristol, Dublin and Belfast in particular.
This is a great interesting video 👍
Well done mate
"Low fares, Made simple"
Taha Khattabi exactly
Ryanair - "Low Fares, Low Expectations, High injury rate!"
@@jacobhinchliffe6237and yet not one single fatality in the whole time they have existed
To add to that as well. I heard from one of my Lufthansa engineer instructors that Ryanair gives additional bonus to their pilots for the amount of fuel they save in flight. Of course more fuel saved during flight means the aircraft will have a heavier landing weight leading to a harder landing
No...that's just not true. There is a legal minimum fuel weight they have to carry, and no pilot would land hard to save a tiny amount of fuel even if they were getting a bonus, which they won't be as it would encourage unsafe practices, which no pilot would do..They would never have enough fuel on board to cause a hard landing, unless it was an emergency.
Bullshit
Thanks for explaining!
It’s about modern training and of course the 737-800 which can be a bit tricky to land. The current view is to put the aircraft onto the black stuff and don’t worry about slicking that landing. So long as you are on that runway safely, then your job is almost done, cut the throttles and apply reverse thrust and you are just about there.
I've been on Ryanair before and the landing was VERY hard. Weather conditions were perfect that day
Worst landing ever for me January 2018 Fiji Airways 737-800 at Auckland, New Zealand. The thing literally bounced on landing. Momentarily, we were airborne again!
Beautiful thx you for this information
Thank you for your video. Need to add I never experienced a hard landing as with Ryanair arriving at Podgorica's Airport in Montenegro in 2016 with good weather. It was a big surprise for me, in fact, in South America despite having so strong winds in Patagonia, the pilots never made us experience such a situation!
They train with the B737-700 Ryanair at Doncaster Sheffield Airport (My local airport) it mostly Trainee pliots that do practice flight in and out and hard landings and some Soft landings but the are not bad.
"Every Airline in the World does once in a life time Hard landings pending on the Luck of flight."
Yeah I agree, a hard landing is not always necessarily a bad landing. Interesting that you said they use the -700 for training since I think all of their planes are -800s. Anyhow thanks for watching!
@AH_ aviation you must be rich then!
Me: mom what airline are we flying
Mom: Ryanair
Me: ok I’ll pack the neck brace!
lol
Omg i laughed so hard 😂😂😂😂
It's not funny Ryanair Landings are good not hard idiot
I think these points you made are quite valid and do have alot of logic to it, all of it seems to add up. Thanks for sharing.
Very nice video!!
I noticed that...my second flight in life was with Ryanair, and first time i ever flown in life was with A320 and first flight was so great but ryanair was so different, hard breaking and hard turns, hard touchdown...so i am under impression A320 is so much better plane :)..
I've flown on the 737 and A320 many times, and they're both great planes. As far as the breaking, turning, etc., that's more to do with the pilots rather than the type of aircraft. Though I will say the A320 is my personal favorite :).
I also prefer the A320, but the 737 is great too
You will never get me on a DC-10 though, I'd rather walk
Swiss 001: bUttEr bUttEr
RyanAir: *hold my landings*
Ryanair Landings are Soft
I flew a couple of times from Dublin to Fuerteventura and every time the landing has been brutally slamming hard.! But then again the airport is tiny and the runways are much shorter in Fuerteventura than other runways because it's such a tiny island. I live just outside Milan now so I often fly from Dublin to Bergamo and to be honest I haven't really experienced any hard landings flying into Bergamo.
I'm a regular Ryanair passenger and I've never had a hard landing - One thing they I have noticed is how hard they brake, I've flown on so many other 737s but no airlines brakes are louder or as ferocious as Ryanairs. But they are a good airline, well worth the price 👌🏽
I’m gonna set up a GoFundMe for the Ryanair’s landing gears
Lol
RyanAir: As long as we dont hear "TERRAIN" "TERRAIN AHEAD" then were safe
Great video! Found it very interesting.
A pilot friend of mine who works for TUI but previously with Ryanair states that it’s to do with the 737 itself. The manufacturer recommends firm landings. It’s possible that Ryanair gets flack as harder landings occur more often due to having 500+ 737s flying an average of 6 flights a day each
Flying into Rome for the first time on Ryanair, I thought "wow, this final approach is really booking it..." then SLAM!!! It felt like my seat came unbolted. You could here everything in the over head bin slam forward under the heaviest breaking I've ever experienced on a commercial jet.
It was fun.
Normal Airline: 50 40 30 20 10 (flare) smooth landing
Ryan Air: 50 10 BOOM!!!!
LOL
SusumuHax lol
pilot flares at 30ft+ agl 2-3 degrees up to slow the decent rate down and achieve preprogrammed VRef for 40 degrees flaps, a little different if there is a tail wind...this is just to clarify
No mr. Profile picture eagle it goes like 50......40......30.......20......10.....touchdown
norbert1636 you a pro pilot?
You changed my mind about ryanair turns out there pretty good
I'm surprised you haven't mentioned something that definitely affects how soft or hard the landings are - the aircraft. Ryanair operates exclusively the 737-8 NG which is known for being more difficult to land that the A320 family.
In 2025, all Ryanair aircraft tyre will be broken
Passenger: *pays Ryan air 250$
Ryan air: oh you want a budget landing w that? I’ll make sure to give you one
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@@silviabortolas8207 what
@@silviabortolas8207 I understand most of it but that last bit i cant understand
Great explanation 🙂 !
Thank you for this great video.
Its to wake up everyone thats sleeping 😂
You failed to mention that Ryanair pilots do firm landings because it makes the plane break faster which increases fuel efficiency
Failed to mention it becasue is bs. Lol. You dullard.
At least they give a roller coaster ride for free. We should be thankful for such a thrilling experience.
Increases our confidence and dopamine.
Great Video
I'm an airline Captain for our flag carrier and can tell you that this video is total BS. He said it himself in the video, all his ideas and speculation. Ryanair management may have a very bad moral compass that's trying drive the industry downwards, but the pilots and crew with their knowledge, skill and dedication are of high standard. They have to be in order to be in that position.
Having said that, the banter in the comments is brilliant, keep it up ;)
I'm not even a pilot and I can tell this is BS
Why Ryanair often do hard landings ???
Beacause it's Ryanair
This video raised some good points about low cost airlines and the tactics they may use to save money.
Whilst all speculation I think the points you have made are both well educated guesses and well thought out explanations 👍👍
I've had some soft landings with them....
Are you sure about that? (haha, only joking)
@@pureaviation3596 nope, albeit it was only about 3 out of about a billion flight's I took with them
@@80sfreak14 Sounds about right :P
Yes I never flown one but Ryanair Landings Are great now
I've had a heavy landing I thought the wheels would end up in my arse
I now feel bad for every last person with hemorrhoids that's flown with Ryanair.
Good video. Also note that Boeing do not recommend to land as smooth as possible in any of their manuals. In fact it states that a touchdown should be “positive”. This is because when a runway is wet there’s the danger of Aquaplaning. A positive landing reduces that risk.
Very well explained 👏
Sorry. Secondary airports sometimes and big hubs many others. Secondary airports don’t mean short runways. Ryanair doesn’t have unexperienced pilots or even less experienced. There’s another reason (told by a pilot). Lowering the gear later, means less wind resistence. Less consumption but more speed in landing. So hard landing, quicker runway vacating. Not sure if this is right.
Not unsafe and done by many other airlines.
Whoever told you this has no idea what he's talking about, or you completely misunderstood.
Most airlines conduct low drag approaches, lowering the gear at 4 or 5 nautical miles. Followed by landing flaps setting, that may vary depending on runway state, weather, and sometimes trying to make a more convenient exit (always keeping safety in mind, we'll rarely slam the brakes just to save a few minutes). For a given flap setting, we have to fly at a given speed (weight and wind dependent).
Dropping the gear at 4 or 5 miles leaves plenty of time to meet the criteria of a stabilized approach.
Please, and I can't stress this enough, CHECK YOUR FACTS before posting online.
Donald L. Sherman I will ask it again but those were his FACTS not mine. I didn’t have any reason for not trusting him. No idea, but sounded pretty reasonable.
I am sure you meant well, but you must've misunderstood. As landing faster to vacate earlier doesn't really make sense. Kinetic energy is proportional to the speed squared, landing faster would add more energy for the brakes to dissipate (general rule of thumb, is that 1kt faster adds around 2% landing distance).
The only reason behind dropping the gear at 4 or 5 miles is that it is not economical to drop it before.
Hope this makes sense!
I think the real reason is inexperience. Pilots that get a couple of thousand hours out of Ryanair will move on to a better job.
Great vid
I'm a very nervous and infrequent passenger. Last Oct the landing at Manchester from Malaga nearly scared the life out of me and my next door passenger - we ended up grabbing each other's hands, we were both shocked. Ryanair had better train their pilots better! Looking forward (not) to next Ryanair flight to Malaga in a few weeks.
I think point 2 is the main reason, as usually it's hard landing when first officer is flying the plane. (At least from my experience)
Well id say it depends.
If it's a short runway it doesn't matter which airline and wether it's the captain or first officer.
In each case the pilots couldnt care less about smooth landings, but rather about getting down within the td zone have braking action asap.
the only thing matters for me that
Ryanair > Lionair
100%
Almost same name RYANAIR Lion air
seriously ryanair never had fatal accidents but Lion Air Had that Is Lion Air JT610 oh and im from indonesia
I wouldn't even compare safety in Europe and indonesia.
@@royceorville2 jt610 and much more lel
Ryanair is now the safest airline in the world on record
I’m from ireland and therefore have been on many ryanair flights, and i have to say i have only been on one or two sort of ‘hard’ landings and have never been scared on a ryanair plane like i have been on an aer lingus airbus a320 where the landing was all over the place, not to mention the cabin pressure on the a320 caused immense pain to my ears.
I fly Ryanair every week or so from London to a quite small airport in Poland and would say more than half of those landings were hard.
Great and informative video!
Modlin, tak?
Skyteam Aviation Akurat Bydgoszcz
“Less experienced pilots are more likely to make firm landings.” NOT TRUE. AT ALL. It’s obvious that you are NOT a pilot.
I mean I am a pilot, it's not totally inaccurate... It is common to be one of the problems in early line training...
In general it's very true. I AM a 777 pilot.
Why make such a statement and not back it up with the reason?
Warren Trout First Officer, of course. Fly safe!
They probably think its a computer game
A firm landing is safer than a smooth one
Bro I want to know the science behind it... can you explain me?? Pls🙏🤞🖐😄
@@devangyadav7633 A hard landing can be caused by things such as the pilot flying, weight distribution onboard aircraft, Autolands, Go arounds. The science behind a hard landing can sometimes be the weather acting upon an aircraft. If you want some further information I suggest you watch either mentour pilot or Captain Joe and watch their hard landing videos buddy. 👍😀
@@craighurt3256 I got your point... bro but why this most of the times happen with Ryan air??😔
@@devangyadav7633 I mean the aircraft type the 737 hasn't got a tilted gear and the rear landing gear legs are on a single axle meaning you are going to come down much firmer than a 777 for example
@@craighurt3256 ohh ok😮👍🙏
nice video...i learned a lot
Well, my friend works in Tallinn International Airport (Estonia) and he said, that Ryanair is always cleared for landing in no matter what conditions because every time they have fuel only for one approach - if they perform go around, pilots will declare emergency, so you can't make them go on loop. And if your runway is not ready for Ryanair arrival, your airport pays huge fine. Ryanair have one of the best pilots in Europe with proper income. Even guys from Emirates or Lufthansa quit for Ryanair because of the salary. So they could land an airplane in all sorts of weather conditions, even with a slight wind shear. I fly with Ryanair once a week - and 95% landings are smooth.
But memes are superfun I might add.
I have 2 things to say.
1. I used Ryanair for a return flight and it wasnt hard at all.
2. It is harder because the pilots are new so arent expensive.
A “ very informative piece of information “ really!?
Where did I say that?
Most likely it's down to the fact that they have a restriction for long landing. If RAAS gives out a "Long Landing" call, they must execute a go around. So to avoid it, they use a Check-Close-Hold technique during the flare, which often will result in a firm landing
I've flown with Ryanair 12 times (there and back) and so far, I've only had one soft landing (pretty much didn't feel it)