Cliffe Knechtle at Texas - Six Atheist Miracles | Give Me an Answer
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The "Give Me An Answer" ministry began as an outgrowth of the dialogues Cliffe Knechtle has had with students on various university campuses throughout the United States. These universities include the University of Maine, Harvard, MIT, University of Florida, University of Texas, University of Wisconsin, University of Minnesota, University of California Los Angeles, University of California San Diego, Berkeley, Stanford, University of Hawaii and the University of Washington. Cliffe spoke on these campuses in front of the Student Union or Library at noon for five to ten minutes. At the close of his initial remarks, he'd open up the time for questions and answers, which usually turned into a two to four hour dialogue with students. His crowd size ranged from 25 - 500 students at a time, and between classes, new students would join the discussion. This is an extremely effective way to reach a large number of university students with the Gospel of Christ.
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I used to be an atheist. Thank God he opened my eyes.
Welcome home✝️❤️
Praise God :)
No you weren't.
@@hellsonly8908 wym?
@@sowhat... The story is bullshit. Atheism is the DISBELIEF of a deity existing. It is a conclusion drawn from the real fact that there is no independent, impartial evidence, proof that a deity of any type exists. Ultimately belief in a god is based on desire to wanting to believe even as there is no evidence to it that a god or gods exist. So to become a theist means you do have evidence, real impartial proof that god you now claim to worship, exists. Reading a book and all of sudden becoming a believer after being a non believer is just really too improbable to have happened.abd given how these stories are always but never once corroborated is empirical evidence that these stories are bullshit. Never once have I met a theist who claimed to be a non believer of deities who provided proof of their supposed atheism. It's like those fake stories of Christians who claimed to have been satanists and tell stories of being in covens that were taken from movies and comic books.
There's a book called "I Don't Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist", and I highly recommend it to believers and non- believers alike.
Frank Turek is a boss.
If it's anything like the brain dead BS this guy said, I'm sure it's incredibly stupid.
Atheists don't make assertions. We just don't believe that Theists have provided good evidence for their asserted God. You're an atheist for 99% of the gods who exist. Do you believe in Isis?
lol im reading that book currently
@FantaWriter Ok. Go online and find for me any explanation for how The Big Bang can defy the law of conservation of mass and energy (energy and matter cannot be created nor destroyed, only changed from one form to another) and the law of entropy (in any given system, matter and energy prefer to be disorganized). These laws state two things.
Firstly, the Big Bang would've had to come from somewhere or something, yet no one can tell me where or what that is, and there's no answer that I can think of that cannot be defeated with the same argument of "and where did that come from." Most times, atheists ignore this issue and either mock or get irrationally upset when this question is posed.
Secondly, the Big Bang would've preferred to expand at the beginning, assuming some form of explanation for the first issue can be found, not condense down into a state with enough energy to explode out into the endless universe. This one would have to be explained using science (experiments, math, or proofs) since the argument is that in an endless amount of nothing, an infinite amount of mass and energy condensed down so much that it exploded. That doesn't make much sense to me.
And how about the universe at large? In one strand of your DNA, you have more information than a library. Do you really believe that's by a die roll? Especially when you think about how, in one cell of your body, there are thousands of strands of DNA. Are each one of those die rolls?
I can't be an atheist because it's too illogical. The idea that everything could've come from nothing is anti-logic, in my opinion. The fact that atheists have the faith to believe in something that doesn't scientifically make sense is amazing to me.
All love, no hate, look at these issues and think on them.
@@FantaWriterBecause Atheism makes no sense you gotta believe it whether you like it or not whether it makes sense or not whether it's right or not that's what he means
God bless this man, may he live many fruitful years spreading the Gospel. 🙏
Amen he loves you ❤
There is power in the name of God, Jesus Christ and I pray that he will bless, heal, and educate you ❤️🩹
This is a great man of God!! Thank you Lord for his ministry to the college kids
All it take is for the college kids to go home and go on atheist websites to see how easy and stupid the question are
@@diddsdaddiddsdad6865Provide reasons insted of yappin
@@cobramilicDo you or any of members of your club even know what an atheist is?? It’s the lack of evidence for any god or gods. That is it. These dumb” miracles “ are assumptions what atheists believe. Many of these “miracle” are what the religious believe. BTW do you know how to spell insted🤭 I mean instead. 🤔
@@cobramilic @cobramilic Do you or any of members of your club even know what an atheist is?? It's the lack of evidence for any god or gods. That is it. These dumb" miracles " are assumptions what atheists believe. Many of these "miracle" are what the religious believe. BTW do you know how to spell insted
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instead.
@@cobramilic @cobramilic Do you or any of members of your club even know what an atheist is?? It's the lack of evidence for any god or gods. That is it. These dumb" miracles " are assumptions what atheists believe. Many of these "miracle" are what the religious believe. BTW do you know how to spell insted
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instead.
It takes Waaaay more work to be an atheist then believing in a creator
I'd say faith not work.
@@dagghui Yes, it takes faith to not believe in God, but it also takes work, because nature tells us there is a God. So, man must work really hard to try to find some lame excuse to not believe in God.
@@scottm4042 Yea I agree
@@scottm4042that was beautifully said
@scottm4042 pride, resentment, and anger blinds the eyes speaking from experience. I now would consider myself theistic but everyone claims their God is real. Jesus being God seems the most realistic but it hard to come to a conclusion.
6 Atheist Miracles:
1- Existence from Non-existence
2- Order comes from Chaos
3- Life from Non-life
4-The Personal comes from the Non-personal
5- Reason comes from Non-reason
6- Morality comes from Matter
from internet, bing chat:
Does the big bang comes literally from nothing or?
answer:
The Big Bang theory, as it is commonly understood, suggests that the universe originated from an extremely dense and hot state, and has been expanding ever since12. However, the question of whether the universe came from “nothing” is a complex one and is a topic of ongoing debate among scientists.
Some cosmologists propose that the universe could have formed spontaneously from “nothing” due to quantum fluctuations3456. In the realm of quantum mechanics, it’s plausible that the universe could come into existence from nothing56.
However, it’s important to note that this “nothing” isn’t the absence of anything but rather a quantum vacuum or a state of minimal energy34. This is a highly speculative area of physics and our understanding may evolve with further scientific exploration34.
On the other hand, some argue that the Big Bang theory doesn’t actually explain the creation of the universe from nothing7. It describes the evolution of the universe following the initial expansion, but it doesn’t provide a complete explanation for the origin of the universe7.
In conclusion, while the Big Bang theory describes the evolution and expansion of the universe from a hot, dense state, the question of how and from what the universe initially originated is still a subject of ongoing research and debate in the scientific community.
Needs to be reposted
There's some redundancy here. 1 and 2 are the same, and 5 and 6 are also the same.
yawn@@Mew__
@@ApocalypseLounge Get more sleep 👌
My life was a LOT more stressful and depressing when i was an atheist. Then I realized i had nothing to lose by reading the bible and my life was changed. I thought i knew everything until i read the bible to understand it and not debunk it. It had everything i thought was right and i was like "damn why did i ever hate this? This is awesome!".
Amen!
What about the bible made you think it is true?
On the first day, God created light in the darkness.
On the second, He created the sky.
Dry land and plants were created on the third day.
On the fourth day, God created the sun, the moon and the stars.
Water and sky animals were made on the fifth day, and on the sixth day, land animals and people were created.
Okay so god created light 4 days before the sun? And somehow birds that evolved from land animals were made the day before land animals?
😂😂😂 now thats a joke
Before God created the physical universe, there was nothing. There was nothing physical because the universe didn't exist. God invented light and created light both as a concept, and as the physical photons that we see now. You don't need the sun to produce light you can make light from other things, we do it all the time and it's not even miraculous. So the GOD of the universe who SPOKE a universe into existence can create light from nothing, and then make the sun. And birds didn't evolve from the land He created them! You want to be an atheist and live in a world where human evil has no solution be my guest, but please spare us your foolish ignorance! Please explain to all of us, the 30 or so universal constants that are so finally balanced to allow life to exist at all!?!? Find tuning so precise that even the most minute adjustment would mean the destruction of life in the universe? Explain to me how life began on this planet? How did rocks bring forth life? Please explain to us how there isn't enough seconds in the history of the universe to evolutionarily explain the development of complex proteins? Oh that's right you just believe in evolution. All of this happened by accident have fun with that.@@censorsstarve
@censorsstarve okay I'll entertain this. It probably won't convince you because people like you tend to not be open minded despite advertising yourselves as being that. But we'll see. Okay, don't take my word because I'm not 100% sure about the animals thing. But here's my theory on that. Day 5 God seemingly creates "creatures" and birds. And on day 6 he creates MORE creatures and man? Here's what I think. I believe in science and the Bible because science backs up the bible in so many ways. So I'd be dumb not to. I think the first wave of creatures on day was the first half of the "evolution" process. Meaning the first wave was the marine life and evolved into dinosaurs and birds. And day 6 was the second half which would mostly be the modern animals we see today and ones that went extinct because of us. Imo it makes sense that way. Also the Bible says God created light before the sun. Science also says there was light before suns existed. So if we go by my theory about the animals, then that would be twice in the first chapter where science backs up the bible. And honestly technically 3 times cus it says God formed man from the earth. Science also says that right? Because science still doesn't know exactly what humans evolved from. Meaning humans in itself is a mystery. And if science says we go BACK to dust, then wouldn't that mean somehow we're made of something similar to it? All our elements comes from "stardust". So does the earth. So even through evolution, we're technically made from the dust of the earth/stardust a.k.a elements from the big bang. Whether my answer satisfies you or not is honestly not my problem. I just had nothing else to do.
I'm happy you found meaning in religion, but respectfully, atheism doesn't depress or stress me at all. I still have moral convictions and I'm happy to do good things for the sake of good.
The way his son is just glowing watching his papa preach 😂❤
I appreciate cliff so much he’s a true pastor
He is the reason i belive in god
@@tltlteeporkinal4948 Why? He doesn’t even know what an atheist even is.How does he know what we think, must be one of the miracles he talks about
Yes and you can tell by how there's always so many more people listening than the few that ask dumb questions based on their dumb assumptions. As Jesus said in the parable of the sower... Cliff is sowing the majority of seeds in good soil
@@diddsdaddiddsdad6865are you dumb? Literally every atheist by default believes in those things he's talking about, it's clear as day
@@vsty7z What dumb assumption are there. He not talking to any atheist,he’s just flapping and making false statements.
I Thank God I am here listening to you yelling all🙏🏾🤲🏾🙌🏾
God bless this man andvhis ministry.
You want god to bless liars and charlatans? Weird.
@@brunosmith6959
Would you be so kind as to expound on your statement?
@@davidcantwell2489 I guess he doesn’t
@@stevebui1375 I don’t know about being a liar but I do know he doesn’t know what an atheist is and also how does he know what they believe. Just like the many different denominations there are in Christianity there are beliefs in what an atheist believes.
This guy is great. As a struggling agnostic I appreciate this clarity.
The easiest work is giving up and the hardest is keep pushing .
SOMEONE NEEDA TO HEAR THIS
People in the comments are saying it’s stressful to be an atheist and then saying it’s easier to be an atheist….so which one is true?
U got to have an extraordinary amount of faith to be an atheist
I sometimes call them: *Faitheists* ;)
No
@@justanotheropinion5832 Yes
That’s a lie believers tell themselves to not feel so silly.
Have fun with your flock.
@@justanotheropinion5832 Show me where scientists can re-create a "big bang" in a laboratory to prove that chaos *can* create order.
Show me where life can come from non-life with NO intelligence involved.
Show me where intelligence can come from no intelligence.
If you can't, yet you believe such things, then you *definitely* have way more faith than you assumed.
how does he get all these people to circle around and listen? that's a miracle too!
The Holy Spirit guides people to the truth of Jesus.
Cliffes been doing this for over 40 years, think of how many hundreds of thousands of people have stopped to watch and listen. Makes you wonder what you might be missing.
bro, you really think hundreds of thousands of people have heard this clown's spiel?@@classics-wz1bz
That's cute. He goes to preach his faith on the streets and people think he is an imbecile. @@chrisknoblock
People want to hear the truth
having faith in Jesus is slowly saving me from my crippling depression I never get tired of these typa vids
God has a plan for you brother, keep having faith in Christ and continue to believe it is possible to overcome.
He said to them, “For truly, I say to you, if you have faith like a grain of mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move, and nothing will be impossible for you.”
- Matthew 17:20
That’s actually a really clever argument. “We both believe in miracles, but I believe in the miracle worker”
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I don't beleive in miracles.
I do understand that there are things we don't know yet, things we are figuring out, and things that we are fairly certain of.
I will happily admit that we don't know for sure the big bang was a thing, and if it is we don't know what caused it and what exactly it was.
This isn't evidence of God. This is God of the gaps.
@@jonsimpson6240 Not exactly. It’s a rebuttal to the argument that if Christians can’t answer some question, their position must be wrong. Also, it’s a rebuttal to the notion that atheists don’t rely on faith.
@@jonsimpson6240 If you don’t have answers you believe in the miracle that all life came from non-life. That’s literally a miracle, existence coming from non-existence. You’re just as religious and faithful but you have a large ego and cannot admit it.
Science is observable+repeatable, the scientific method means you can repeat an experiment in a lab and come up with the same results. You can’t repeat the same experiment, that’s not science. atheism is religion.
@@Stevewilldoit96 so you beleive in the god of the gaps. "We don't know yet" should be a totally acceptable answer. I don't have faith that we will eventually figure it out, we have done for every other question so far, it will eventually be answered. That answer might even be some being that is a creator. The ego of the religious to say "we need not even look for answers, for we have them already" is what blows me away, especially given that they have been pushed into smaller and smaller corners for centuries.
I don't understand your second paragraph at all...
Never heard the last 3. The first 3 I have heard often. Something to think about for any future conversations. Thanks. Even your shorts make me think
Wow! God bless you brother. That blows one's mind!!! Hallelujah ❤
Your mind is easily blown 🤭
Very well said, Amen and have faith in Our Lord Jesus Christ ❤
Magnificent mind. God’s creation is so tremendous.
what creation
Glory to God 🙏 God has blessed this brother from The spirit of Wisdom
Amen
JESUS CHRIST is absolutely amazing, wonderful, perfect and PRICELESS!! All praises to the most high GOD amen 🙏🏽 ❤❤❤
I turned Atheist around 18 'till I died in a automobile accident in 2005. Jesus is God Almighty amen
Did you die
@@ThanhTran-ks8rd SAID HE DIED IN HIS COMMENT. LEARN TO READ!
@@billybob-ro6qf Wow, wow, wow! Calm down bro, he just pointed on impossibility of truth of this statement to be written truly.
@@portalingstudiosgaming7705 what's impossible? Many people die around the world daily & some of those people DO come back to life either with a doctor or someone else's help by CPR, shocking their heart or other means, some come back simply because it's not their time to die & God brings them back. And NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE WITH GOD!
@@billybob-ro6qf Nah, I believe in medicine, not in god with his subjective morality.
Our fallen nature defaults against God but thankfully when we behold and experience the love of God in Christ we have that peace that surpasses all understanding 🙏
Any young student can learn more from this man of god then any college can teach them his a real blessing from Christ 🙏🏾😊
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That's just factually inaccurate. The study of mathematics alone trumps all the stories in the Bible... Your logic is super confusing... Or lack there of I guess I should say
Would you mind explaining to me how?
I'm a Christian, and that's simply not true.
Roundabout way of saying you ain’t did much in college
Amazing! Thank you Cliffe, that's right.
Blessings from France 🙌✝️💙💥
Thanks brother Cliffe 🙏 💙
Agnostic atheist here. This is really good stuff - excellent fuel for philosophical conversation and well thought-out. Wish I had a place to discuss this...
Finally, a rational atheist in this comment section
@@TheSergio1021Ah yes a rational atheist calling themselves agnostic....😂 Just like the rational Vegan Meat eater...ffs
Its always atheist this, theis that. Agnostics know whats up, or should i say, dont know whats up lol. Ive always been amazed that there are so many more atheists than agnostics
@@nathanspringer9902Agnostic is a better position than athiest for sure.
But theist is the better position, in my theist opinion.
I think being agnostic is good for a time. But at some point you have to make a choice and pick a side.
The existence of God is not one that you want to fence sit on.
You have everything to gain and everything to lose depending.
I’m always open for these sorts of discussions - if there’s a way we can get in contact outside of RUclips, I’d love to talk!
God bless you. amen
This is excellent. Thank you Cliffe! 🙏🏼
I was a Methodist Christian from birth to age 19. At 19 I went to Afghanistan and fought a pointless war, watched my nation and my self destroy a peoples’ way of life. I watched men, women, and children get gunned down, mercy killed, and saw the aftermath of what happens when one of them talk to us. I came home to a wife that wanted to leave me. I lost my faith completely. I didn’t see how the God I grew up believing in could ever allow what I experienced to happen.
I researched theology, sociology, psychology, and physics for the following 10 years, studying the bleeding edge of the sciences. Guess what I found out? We’ve proven that someone/something is observing what we’re doing and quantum physics hit the nail on the head; elemental particles don’t act like themselves unless we’re watching them.
My favorite example is known as the Dual Slit experiment, for anyone in doubt.
This decade of focused research lead me to accept with complete evidence-backed faith that we are in a created universe (or simulation, same result) and that the programmer (God, the father) created an earthly body for himself (Jesus) to show us the Way.
Simulation theory + the narrative of life = orthodox Christianity.
Its called the double slit experiment and thats not at all what it shows. It shows quantum superposition and explains the duality of photons. It only applies on a subatomic scale.
@@captainbeaver_man903They never understand the science.
Islam is the only answer.
@@Ibn_Malika that's a bad answer
if you can demonstrate that camel urine and milk is a verfied medicine maybe we can consider it.
or that the sun sets in a murky spring of water.
@@Ibn_Malika
Amen❤❤❤
Praise the Lord in Christ Jesus🙏
I agree there’s a god I’m agnostic, cause even it states in the conservation of energy “Energy cannot be created nor destroyed can only be transferred” “cannot be created” meaning that the beginning must have came from somewhere and its logical with all the coincidences of the world that there’s a god.
Cliffe has great wisdom, and great hair! Love u bro, praise Jesus❤️
Jesus knows you're Gay
@@brunosmith6959Why are you so bitter?
@@Valord9 because of religion's history of violence and oppression especially Christianity, to science, women, children, and homosexuals, but especially for childhood indoctrination. For making laws that mandate morality. For corrupting education.
Is that enough, I can keep going?
@@Valord9 Someone asked "why I was so bitter?" I get bitter when Charlatans go onto campuses and try to infect students with irrational thinking by doubling talking them and being intellectually dishonest.
The reason he engages kids is because the thinking adults he debated eviscerated him on stage.
Why the need to publicly preach your Cult beliefs, and record it? It's kind of contrary to what the Bible says to do. Try one on one, and not mass hypnosis.
If you humble yourself and follow your heart you will absolutely experience the divine blessings. Many prayers for all of God's children. 🙏🤍🕊️
Lots of people follow their heart and it leads them to untold problems.
I love Cliffe
faith-believing there is a cause for the beginning
atheism-believing there is no cause for the beginning
just observing the world you can see there is a causation for anything that happens so faith will always make more sense
What was the cause for god's existence?
@@Kenny-ev9ii nothing, god is the one true eternal entity with no beginning or end
@@birdwife589 So believing that the universe had no prior cause is foolish but believing that an infinitely more complex being just happened to be there from the very start without a cause is not? Yeaah, right....
@@Kenny-ev9ii makes more sense to me that it was created by something then everything being a coincidence
@@birdwife589 Nothing in the universe happens because of coincidence. The reality we find ourselves in happens to be governed by the law of cause and effect. Imagine it like a huge domino effect. Having that in mind, it's not unreasonable to question what happened prior the the Big Bang which might have caused it. In reality, we don't know yet - which does not translate to the existence of god since that again would birth a question of what caused god. The most likely answer is that it's similar to asking what's north of the north pole. Nothing. The north pole is as far north as you can go.
Bless you dear brother 🥰
The first three led me to get saved.
How awesome ❤️
Saved from whom, an angry God who wanted to burn you forever if you don't worship it?
You're "safe" not saved.
@@brunosmith6959He doesn't want you to suffer. He loves you. However if you disrespect him and others by being angry to them you push him away. Then it gets harder for you to listen to your father, who wants him and his children to live a good life. Eventually you do evil deeds and it was your fault you went to hell.
Do it JT, you will see
Amen Brother.
Good on you... let's believe in talking snakes and mud-men rib-women giant arks instead...
I genuinely think over 99% of "atheists" aren't actual atheists. They know God is real. They just don't like Him for some reason. i.e. If God is so good, why did He let this horrible thing happen in my life?
then it's time to spread out your knowledge about the workings of the real world because those numbers are as unreal as faith in God itself.
@@dabartos4713 lots of people identify as atheists who are not actually atheists. That's why the number I put out there doesn't match yours. To actually be atheist, you have no option to explain how we got here except evolution. Evolution is absurd for the reasons he explained.
When "atheists" defend their faith in evolution, they never actually defend evolution... because it's absurd. They only ever attack Christianity. That is the proof they don't actually believe evolution...they just don't like Jesus.
If you don't actually believe evolution, you are not atheist. At best, most atheists are actually agnostic. I'd call them Jesus deniers not because they don't believe in Jesus, rather, if they did proclaim faith in the Lord they know their lives would have to change. People don't like change.
We are all free will. many people are without God who is the light.
God can't punish anyone right away otherwise he has to punished all others also who are free will, just like how he can't punished the fallen angel yet, because if he do he has to punish us human also, otherwise God isn't fair.
@@epicmusiclover8110holy hell the number of backflipping logic twists you have to make to justify belief in your god.... do you understand that any other believer can make the same statement about your beliefs and it would hold up just as well?
@acrylnick2281 yes only god was there to hear me when I was in bitter pain all alone.
Cliffe your the best 🙏🙏
Need a full epsidoe cliffe. From that week at Texas state. Nov 8th want to see that full discussion plz 🙌
How did “it” happen?
Atheist: It just did
Christian: God designed it that way.
“No evidence for your magical sky daddy, just blind faith”
Or
“god is just as real as the tooth fairy and Santa”
They call us crazy but atheist don’t even realize how foolish their worldview is
@@Kmf_Jahhhate to break it to you, but being an atheist isn’t a worldview
@@Kmf_Jahhwhy is the absence of a belief crazy?
@@Kmf_JahhI used to say stuff like that when i was athiest and then i realised i had the dumbest most childish interpretation of what a god would be if it existed. What i didnt realise after i became thiest was that many athiests would actually take that beleif farther and theyd insinuate right to me that the bible says the earth is flat with an impenetrable dome on top while i was actually reading the aorts of the book that said the exact polar opposite 😂😂😂 amd the worst part is it was im the beggining so these guys literally never even studied the first parts diligently with an extreme levwl of reading comprehension. The atheists were actually believing every rumor and loe they were fed believing it as the true writing s of the book when infact it was not. So for me leaving athiesm and starting tocread the bible that made it a fun book to gey into because i didnt like reading but when every person i ran into who claimed intelligence and convinced me of all these lies over the years were all wrong, suddenly i realised the bible they say condones slavery matter of fact does not. They will say the bible has directions on how to treat slaves to prove me wrong and im like bruh yes it does it says you shouldnt be treating slaves as slaves man its lime the book called exodus was enslaved people and they were lime.fi you dont start treating your slaves this way this way and that way then they had terruble things happening like famines plagues locusts unusual diseases apocolypses no joke. The river went red they got a gazillion signs to stop enslaving and then if theycdidmt their civilization got removed permanently and became a example in the books of what not to do 😂😂😂 like yo they say the god of the bible condones slavery like then why are all these captives being freed all over in the book man. So many people blindly easily believe every lie. They will blieve the book is a pro slavery flat eaeth impenetrable dome type book with an old man in the cloud overseeing never ending terror 😂😂😂 like thats a real real 2 iq points way of lookin at it. None of these guys get the facts right its so wild. Not omly athiests but muslims jews etc. Jews walk aorund theyre like "we are the chosen people supreme to the others" and jesus showed up among them he was like "you probably shouldnt be acting like th-" and the jews were like "whatever pay our jewish tax jesus" and then jesisnwas walkin around all the jews chillin doing whatever jesus do and he comes up to the local house of worship ajd theyre buying and selling at the steps he starts flippin tsbles cracking his whip yellin somethin like "this isnt the time nor the palcd heathen" 😂😂😂😂 "chosen people" yeah he chose em but the jews arent chosen how they think they are theyre chosen. They got chosen to repent lime the rest of us man we all equal no one is special in the eyes of god straught up. We are all chosen. Chosen to repent by turning away from evil by the 1 creator which banged the bang for a reason on purpose
Atheists say it happened, but they don’t know the exact mechanism. Christians assert the mechanism with a book…
Every Christian living in today's western Society needs to memorize this verbatim
So they can reinforce their belifs by stramannig atheism?
Yeah, because that’s a lot easier than thinking critically
@@lancebrooks5574Thinking critically lead us to that conclusion. You have the life from non life and you say “You guys just went boom its God” No you are the ones going “well its nature” despite it not making sense. By thinking about it deeply the existence of a God is entirely plausible.
@@brandonsmith2172not the Christian god
@@beanbean3535 The baseline is just a God.
May god bless you all,Amen❤
I wish I can be so intelligent like this man
What did he say that was intelligent,I must have missed it
I'm glad I don't think like him. He sounds like a door to door salesman.
@@Ffollies yeah fr, some of what he said is non sense and else can be proven, like life comes fron non life, it's a long and complicated process but yeah, that's how first bacteria and one cell organisms appeared
@@Kaciu-_-Its sad that people cant answer him properly, because it would lead to more interesting and clever conversations.
Cliffe is doing some great work preaching the gospel in a way that is reasonable and easy to understand. God bless all.
Man does not want to admit that there is a God, because when he does admit it, then he knows he will have to do something about that belief.
@@lauratran7638 maybe god doesn't want to prove it's existence because it's a shitty god???
@hellsonly8908 why are you here?
@@damienalexander3450 oh am invading your safe space? You don't like being confronted for your assholery and your praise for assholery?
Amen Brother Cliffe 🙏
I really like this guy, he's a good teacher ❤❤❤ ✝️ xxxx
If you don’t understand something it doesn’t mean it’s a miracle. It means you don’t understand it.
Then the same can be said of the “miracles” in the Bible, can it not?
I see, so there are no miracles in the Bible. Just phenomenon that you dont understand 🙂 there you go atheists.
@@TheSergio1021 to be fair though the Bible is just a fictional recreation of some factual historical events. It’s like someone wanted to write LOTR but use some historical events.
@@dankernut3750 and what evidence do you have to suggest that? It's a HUGE assumption on your part. I could easily say the same about On the Origin of Species
@@TheSergio1021 I mean… i read it. It’s full of stuff that you’d find in fairy tales or fantasy novels.
You could say it about the origin of species but that book is backed by millions of years of fossils and deposits. Even if it wasn’t, the beautiful thing about science is that it leaves itself room to grow with new evidence. The scientific method is not hamstrung by dogmatic and archaic beliefs.
You can’t deny Atheism based off that. There are atheistic explanations
These are claims of the Scientific, not the Atheistic. Just so happens that a good portion of those Scientists are in fact Atheist, but that doesn't mean Atheism has anything to do with their science. Atheism makes no claims, Atheism is no claims.
@@skyblue2708fair point, so…
you literally just explained that atheism is a belief, congrats.
Amen 🕊️❤️🙏
My brother agnostic, he is a heavy believer in science but he does believe in the potential of a higher power. He thinks in terms of he can believe what he can see and what is proven to him however he will not discredit the possibility of a celestial origin. He simply believes it’s more likely that we came and are born the evolution. I pray some day God will plant that seed in his mind that brings him to accept his word into his heart. He’s a great man, loving, caring, respectful, patient, reliable. He just needs spiritual direction!
And why do you disagree with his belief in following evidence and listening to scientific claims? If he’s a great man how will this “spiritual direction” help him?
"I'm not sure how or why this happened" doesn't equal "Miracle".
Did life come from non life, yes or no?
The creation of the universe is the only one he had a point on. Everything else has mathematical and naturalistic explanation.
@@agcrazy721 No life did not come from non life because nothing comes from anything... there are no things, and if we are contemplating existence itself, distinctions between states of matter must ultimately be arbitrary. Everything is on the spectrum of consciousness.. everything is constantly in motion and transferring energy between 'points.' If we say non-life turns into life (or even easier, life turns to non-life as it frequently does), it is like saying ice turns to water, which is true in one sense but also false in another because it is the same thing. Life is a state of matter. Life is non-life, And if we are wondering about consciousness, what do we even define that as in the first place? It's just a rabbit whole of arbitrary distinctions between humans and animals and fish and bugs and trees which all have EXPERIENCE that we can never comprehend, operating on timescales and with senses we can never understand and interacting with the earth in completely different ways. To assume life had to come from somwhere is the problem from the start. I think everything manifests and will continue to manifest by way of natural completeness. There are so many parts of nature that we don't understand, I'm not sure why I would need an anthropomorphic god to have magically granted life to non-life. Also where did God's life come from.. idk.. can't you just keep asking how and why until even God can't give you answers? And in that case I'd rather put my faith in nature than in some divine plan.
@@agcrazy721 If you don't know why or how something happened, does that mean it's a miracle? Yes or no.
@@EthanLaird . This is a great answer. I especially love the bit around senses. Our minds cannot even contemplate what additional senses there could be and it's fascinating. I'm way happier being able to consider this sort of stuff rather than just declaring that "god did it" and moving on.
Im glad that the Bible mention the teachings of neutrons, protons, and electrons...
I am glad that half of the world population don't care about what the Bible says about proton, electron, neutron. It doesn't matter what the Bible says to most of us, if that matters to you then it is good, go read it yourself. Let us find out our own truth without you poking every finding that we have with your bible! That is just annoying!
How is this even remotely important? The Bible is about bringing people to God, not the study of matter.
@@TheSergio1021 it's important so that you know some elements are unstable. This is why we are not using Mercury anymore in our products.
But what do I know since in your house, you all use Poloniun instead of soap 🤡
@@TheSergio1021 and bringing people together? Bible supports slavery, as in old testament, there's nothing written against it, it embraces it. I guess we are united when enslaved, just different positions, right? One feasts and whips, the other works and starves 😊
@@elisha-doa-lereigh Hebrews were allow to sell themselves (willfully) to another Hebrew, and they were only allow to do it for 6 years, but once the 7 years reaches he/she was a free men again. They weren’t treated like the slaves you’re thinking off (like getting beaten and all) they were treated merely as coworkers or temporary residents to put it another way.
It’s obvious God doesn’t like slavery, after all, exodus is literally all about freeing slaves, the difference is they were force into it and treated badly.
Maybe read the Bible instead of just mindless copying what others say 😊
I urge someone to witness to someone today about the Gospel, the good news. I need to witness to someone today too and we’re going to do it together (whom ever witnesses the Gospel because of this comment). Let’s witness together, from afar!
This guy is awesome! God bless him
Why what did he say that was awesome 🤷♂️
Saying atheists believe something came from nothing is a major assumption, now I can't speak for all atheists, but I've always assumed that the energy of the universe has always just been there somehow, even the big bang theory suggests energy before the universe. I haven't heard many ideas of something coming from nothing.
Now for order out of chaos,
you're assuming what we have is actually order. If I roll a trillion dice on a table and start moving that table, I guarantee a few of those dice will line up from time to time.
Energy is not eternal. The eventual heat death of the universe is proof of that. The energy in the universe is winding down. Which means something had to wind it up.
Please go up to a surgeon, a chemist, or a physicist and tell them there is no order in the universe. You may not believe there is design, but to deny there's order...
@@Malhaloc the energy will calm down maybe and entropy will stop increasing but it won't just disappear, energy can't be created nor destroyed (as far as we know). Besides, that's just one of the few hypothesis of the end of the universe, there's also the cold death and the big crunch ideas. either way, the energy doesn't just disappear.
And im not saying there isn't order, im just saying the order we see is just a temporary arrangement of chaos, all of our atoms will eventually go back to an unordered chaotic state at one point or another until they just so happened to come across order again.
Yeh, the periodic table just screams chaos! 🤣 All matter and energy and the laws that govern them suddenly appeared, uncaused, expanding from a single speck. Mostly hydrogen and helium that collected into stars. "Burning" long enough to cook up the elements. Exploding, scattering them across space at great velocities. Somehow collecting into our solar system. 99% of it's total mass 75% hydrogen and 25% helium collecting in the center of a cloud with a diameter (being conservative, the diameter of Pluto's orbit) 3.7 billion miles. Never mind, according to the laws of physics, for the nebular theory of our solar systems formation to be true, the sun should have 99% of it's angular momentum, not the 2% that's observed. Nearly completely backwards.
Where did the energy come from?
Why did it explode?
If what you say is true, does your life matter?
Please look into Dr. Hugh Ross, Dr. James Tour, Dr. Stephen Meyer, Dr. John Lennox. They address all of this and more! They have lots of vids on here, as well as sites, books. God bless!
Godspeed 🙏☘️🌹
Seventh miracle, if we don't know it must be god.
8th miracle humans gain 8 arms and become spider humans and then eventually become spiritual beings and create their own planets like the Mormons beleive. So I proved atheist beleive in creation.
In what way do Christians argue this?
Sudarium of Oviedo, Shroud of Turin, WAXS
This is not a god in the gaps argument. You're building a strawman argument. Refute the point and debate or be quiet... which statement is untrue?
6 Atheist Miracles:
1- Existence from Non-existence
2- Order comes from Chaos
3- Life from Non-life
4-The Personal comes from the Non-personal
5- Reason comes from Non-reason
6- Morality comes from Matter
@@ApocalypseLounge Lets just cut to the chase. What or how do you think we exist? If you are like Matt Dulahunty then you will say "I don't know" . If that is your position, there is absolutely nothing to debate. It is simple, time to learn a little bit more to grow from ignorance. No strawman needed. Just maybe another 4.3 billion years if you believe in evolution.
The reason for atheism is that people find the standards set before them by God too difficult to live by and their sins satisfy them more. Denial of God is Denying that they are not sinning Ultimately, sins are nothing more than narcissistic acts. God wants you to think of others before yourself.
As an atheist, ex Christian, life is amazing and permanent death won’t stop me from enjoying life as the best person I can be.
Glad you are happy, but there is no "best person you can be". There are only "different" versions you can be. Unless you're professing faith in that morality-from-matter miracle and can explain it, the version of you that rescues children from burning buildings is not "better" than the version of you that puts children IN burning buildings. They are different, but as Dawkins has said, there is no good and there is no evil: one isn't inherently "better" than the other, and in the end no one is going to be around to care or consider which you chose. Both paths lead to the same meaningless place. It's Christ and everything or rebellion and nothing. I'll be hoping and praying God draws you to the former.
@@SalvusGratia wrong, “best person I can be” means someone who lives to help myself and others. To uplift and support my fellow man, rather than to let down when man fails me. Forgive, love and forget. There is a best person everyone can be, and that person is a loving soul who wants nothing more than to help humanity
@@LordOfAnal I hear what you're saying, and I'm glad you prefer to help your fellow man than hurt him. But without an objective moral standard, that's not "better" than hurting him, it's just different. You and I both know there are plenty of people in the world who enjoy hurting others. A Christian might say you're doing things "better" than them because you at least try partially to live up to God's moral standard: loving one's neighbor is objectively better than hating them. But without that standard, you just have a preference. You prefer helping rather than hurting people the way some prefer chocolate to vanilla. It's not better, it's not worse, it's just different. Of course, you know that latter perspective is rubbish because you're made in the image of God. You know the difference between helping and hurting is real and meaningful which is why you want to live that way. But you only get that meaning from the God that made you. So stop trying to be your own God and turn to the One who made you. He gave your life real meaning; you can't give it to yourself.
@@SalvusGratia "but there is no "best person you can be". There are only "different" versions you can be. "
I can't speak for the person you responded to, but why couldn't I try to be the best person I can be based on my goals and what I want to do relative to others?
"Unless you're professing faith in that morality-from-matter miracle and can explain it, the version of you that rescues children from burning buildings is not "better" than the version of you that puts children IN burning buildings."
It is remarkable that life arose on earth and evolved into sentient creatures who have values. If you want to call that a miracle...it is ok with me. And once sentient creatures evolved with their values they can certainly sort out what actions are better to support those values and which actions detract from those values. And a person who does his best to always try to make decisions that move him toward those action can consider himself to be doing his best.
If not for Jesus do you think you couldn't tell the difference between pushing children into buildings vs rescuing them...ie wouldn't know which was better to do? IOW, if you were an atheist, would you agree with what Dawkins said?
Consider something that is totally arbitrary...like the American version of football. The game itself is totally made up...and many of the rules are absolutely arbitrary. BUT, once the rules are understood and someone decides they want to play to win or want to support one or another team, there are objectively better ways to play vs worse ways to play and an onlooker can definitely and objectively say when a team is making better plays vs worse plays. IOW the best way to play to win is to always try to move the ball toward the goal. Plays that purposefully move the ball away from the goal are objectively NOT the best plays. So why can't there be 'best' ways to live one's life if they want to help make society better? So the person who doesn't want to harm children will definitely NOT think it best to put children in burning buildings and unnecessarily in harms way.
Finally, how does Jesus help in this issue? Why does Jesus think it's better for you to rescue children from burning buildings than pushing them into burning buildings? And why do his values matter to you other than the recognition you might get...ie the reward you might win for heeding his wishes or the punishment you might reap for failing to do what you think pleases Jesus?
@@LordOfAnalThe Christian and Atheist if you are wrestling for the top spot. As an Atheist you said “Loving soul” and “Best person you can be”💀💀 “Support my fellow man”. Ooooof.
I teach my children to ask questions. Always. Just because we don't know about a thing doesnt give us the power to make what believe about it a truth. Unless we ourselves are our own god. Which of course is ironically delusional.
You are a great teacher,I love you and your teaching
One could argue all of those, but the "intellectual price tag" for believing the premises of those arguments is way way higher than just believing in God.
Seems like a long way of saying you have no real answers but want to feel intellectually superior without any of the actual thinking and work.
@@TheSergio1021 not knowing > claiming that you know, but dont.
@@ZeYoX-mw7sh having a thought out explanation > not having one and still claiming intellectual superiority
@@TheSergio1021 Is it better to have no answer or to have a wrong answer?
@@ZeYoX-mw7sh haha you claim you "dont know" but now you're claiming I have the wrong answer?
Almost seems like you actually DO have an answer you just feign ignorance so you dont have to actually debate it on its merits like the original comment. You just proved my point.
At no time have I heard an athiest say something comes from nothing
Youd have to define order from chaos.
Life does come from non life. Humans put basic elements in a tube and those elements wihout outside influence assembled into amino acids.
Personal comes from non person is meaningless.
Morality is subjective.
Explain to me how morality is subjective, by what standard you argue something is good or bad?
@@graysonschoonover1109 Socierty decides what's good or bad. That's why we dont listen to the bible. If we did, people like yourself would still own slaves. People would still be getting stoned to death. Religions like Islam, their profit married and r*ped a 9 year old. Do you think we should get rid of the age of consent? What was good 2000 years ago is no longer considered good today. The problem you and other religous people have is this: Either god was wrong when they wrote the old testament or morality is subjective. I doubt youd say God was wrong though lol.
@@graysonschoonover1109 Now explain to me how you know what's good or bad? Do you think you'd go around r*ping and killing people if some guy didnt write it down on a book thousands of years ago?
@graysonschoonover1109 here is an easy example of morality being subjective. I firmly believe that engaging sexually with children is wrong, while all of the monotheistic religions have major figures who were pedos. See, subjective.
@xander.357 That's not an example at all. Where in the Bible does it say or endorse that behavior? How are people who portray Christ poorly an example of Christ?
If anything, you just proved that engaging sexually with children being wrong is an OBJECTIVE truth, since if it was subjective, you would only view these leaders' views as an interpretation of morality and not as wrong
I’m a Christian but I can answer # 3 life comes from non life. Volcanic vents have elements such as calcium and other minerals that react under high pressure and create organic molecules.
But not self replicating ones and not without creating a great many more compounds that break down anything remotely resembling a self replicating one. If this were really an example it would be held up constantly and it isn't precisely because it's not enough to say there is an organic compound, that is not in and of itself life.
@@johnweatherman5685even if that was done by scientist tomorrow in a lab y'all still would just move the goal post and say God created the universe. Atheist do not claim to have all answers, and "I don't know(let's try to find out) " is an incredible answer. However Christians claim a God, so you have the burden of proof. A lightning bolt used to be proof of Zeus, not so much anymore.. So bring some A level shit or just admit your only argument is blind faith.
@@johnweatherman5685 thank you I didn’t know that they weren’t self replicating from steam vents. I did read an study from Oxford that claims they replicated the conditions of a steam vent and for some reason they ran electricity into it to replicate lightning ( no clue how lightning would reach a sea vent but it created living micro organisms)
The study was done by Miller and Urey
The document is called The origin of life on earth explained
It didn’t say wether or not they were self replicating so thank you for letting me know. I was curious about that.
@@user-fk8ok2hc2othey weren't. It would be the biggest news story ever if they had been. Probably, a volcano is too harsh to allow them to last long enough to even have a chance of replication. The random configuration itself for replicating life is probably one in really big number, and then it probably needs time to obsorb further energy from a relatively non violent environment. AND THEN, there are another 100 things that can go wrong.
@@calebmarquartTour just happens to be a born again Christian... Give me a break.
Thank you for your work for God's kingdom, Cliffe
I don't have enough faith to be an atheist!!
@@ColeClappertonor scientific
You do realise that when you accuse atheists of “having faith” as an attack against them, that applies to you as well, right. 😂
You’re basically saying “haha, my reason for believing things is garbage, but so is yours!… I think?”
if you doesn't believe in Zeus.. then buddy you are little bit of an atheist. and if you only believe in one god.... then buddy you are 99% atheist.. its ok im 100% so we close, kinda
Prove miracles actually happen first…
Is there life? If yes, then at least 1 miracle has occured.
@@johnweatherman5685How so?
@@DrinkWater713because life does not come from non-life. This is a scientific fact. A piece of metal does not turn into a living being out of nowhere.
@@TheSergio1021 This is not a scientific fact. In fact, science has SEVERAL hypotesys of how life came from non-life. This argument is just God of the gaps. You pick a frontier of knowledge and say "God did it". Then science figures it out and you move on to do the same with the next frontier.
@@DrinkWater713all data needs to be interpreted. Therefore, science doesn’t say anything-scientists do. I’d like for you give me one of those theories scientists come up with that say “life comes from non-life” which is logically impossible.
😂 Amein!
All excellent points.
Someone doesn't even know what it means to be an atheist.
Mind explaining?
@@kendallvz the definition of an atheistis plain and simple: "a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods." Of course there are those hardcore atheists who dare to deny the existence of such deities. But any person who hasn't found enough evidence to believe is considered an atheist, and this doesn't exclude agnostics, who accept the impossibilty of knowing. Now, whatever they believe to be the origin of the Universe, morals, and abstract concepts such as love, etc. OR if there was ever an origin per se for such things has nothing to do with the absence of belief in deities, in such topics, atheists can and do have several different views.
@@Misil_de_Obsidiana”Of course there are those hardcore atheists who dare to deny the existence of such deities.”
Sounds to me like he understands what many atheists are, because those are the people he’s talking about. These “hardcore atheists” number in the millions, if not tens or hundreds of millions. Let’s not act as if this is some rare breed. If anything, this is the *majority* of atheists.
@@VictusG I haven't read many studies trying to find out the statistics on how many atheists are considered to completely deny the deities, have you? At the end of the day, the meaning of words matter, atheism is just the lack of belief in god or many gods, under that definition, everybody is an atheist, at least to several religions, if you don't belive in their gods. On the other hand, I've watched several debates where Cliffe has been found to misrepresent atheists and he has had to be lectured on what being an atheist means.
@@VictusGtheres also nothing to support you so one isnt any more likely than the other. God and odin are just as likely to exist as the other. And its okay if not everyone believes theres a god. Because we dont know
i love how order comes from chaos.
not 1 time have i put my clothes in the dryer and they came out all folded perfectly
That's a different type of chaos. That is the kind that haunts you in your free time 😭... But when you find a dryer that does fold clothes PLEASE send a link my way 😂
How about if you put your clothes in the dryer and you went to get them the next day and they were folded up on top of the dryer. Would you think it was a god or would you say you mother had don’t it as, as you know it didn’t happen by chance.
so explain the big bang?
@@mds-kv2rs
so youre helping my argument.
someone had to do it, no?
thank you
@@diddsdaddiddsdad6865
Try using magic or praying about it and see if that works.
I found out at age 24 that atheist actually believes nothing comes from creation and that really opened my eyes ears and heart to seek the most reliable source to wake up (look forward even death) and know I have faith in something based on my experiences. I’m 26 now and life is hard but there is good news after all that I went through. Jesus Christ really loves me more than I love son 😢❤overwhelming feeling every time I think about what He did that I don’t deserve it, that’s a real suffering Living God our creator is.
Thank you for being you!
I so love Cliffe. He explains why there is a God, and i am not looking to debate atheists. As i am not as well versed in the scripture as Cliffe is. Its just FAITH.
For the life starts from no life: The term you might be thinking of is "primordial soup." It refers to the hypothetical environment on early Earth where life is believed to have originated. This "soup" consisted of a mixture of organic compounds, such as amino acids, nucleotides, and sugars, which provided the building blocks necessary for the emergence of life.The formation of organic compounds on early Earth is thought to have occurred through various natural processes, even in the absence of life. One of the leading theories is that these compounds were formed through abiotic (non-living) processes, such as chemical reactions driven by energy sources like lightning, UV radiation, and volcanic activity. Additionally, molecules from outer space, such as meteorites and comets, could have delivered organic material to Earth. Over time, these organic compounds accumulated in the oceans, forming the "primordial soup" where further chemical reactions and interactions eventually led to the emergence of life.
This guy is good. I wish I had is memory to remember all of his knowledge. Teach it brother, teach it!
Deliver Me, O LORD a song of ascents. In my distress I called to the LORD, and he answered me. Psalm 120:1 ESV
Without the demonstration of the power of Jesus, they won't believe Jesus is God
One major mircle he ignors is the TIME, SPACE AND 6-10 TRILLION GALAXYS providing limitless environment over UNIMAGINABLE time. We don't exist on a pinpoint with limited variables.
Point 1, I agree. I am not sold on the big bang. The rest are correct and demonstrable.
"Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool." --- Voltaire
I love how he says "my atheist friends" i would love to sit and have a yarn with this gentleman. Im not an atheist but i would still learn more from him in an hour conversation that i could imagine.
I think these are good points, but if I had to look at the other side, my response would be that although we don’t have an understanding of the start of the universe yet, doesn’t mean we will always be in the dark. Order may come from chaos, or, we may be in the process of entropy, with living beings being the most efficient method for the universe to displace energy. Morality can be looked at as a generally accepted idea, not absolute, but with strong characteristics we relate to based on our evolution. I ponder these ideas
Big bang wasn’t the creation of the universe, but the expansion.
I have a friend who is an atheist all his life. I’ve known him for a long time. A couple years ago, I was telling him and maybe even showing him Kim Clement prophecies. He didn’t have a response. I said “..nothing? No response?” He simply just simply smiled in a friendly manner (cause it was all good and friendly conversation) and said “I just don’t care.”
Those aren’t prophecies.
Dont give up on him, Jesus cares for him, thats why he laid his life on the cross. Keep him in your prayers and watch one day, he might have a special encounter with Jesus
Not everyone will have an opinion on everything. It could just mean they're not interested. Just like I have no interest in going to North Korea.
Just look at the human body. Every single part of our bodies has its own specific job that allows us to function properly. That right there tells you everything you need to know!
“ and an entertainment complex, right smack in the middle of a sewage system, nooooo engineer would design that”….
Jesus is King 👑 Amen 🙏🙌🙏
Thanks Cliff, you Rock! Huge fan, been watching you on WTNH for years I hope to check out your church someday, it's not far from West Haven.
He is absolutely correct. I like to point out that energy cannot be created as stated by the laws of science. Also the laws of science say the universe cannot be eternal. Yet the atheist has to believe that one of those laws had to be violated.
OH MY DIVINE! IT WAS UNEXPRESSABLY BEAUTIFUL!
God bless you
God bless Cliffe he always has pretty good explanations
God bless you 😇
Doing what most preachers do, claiming that what we dont understand must be a miracle and Gods work. Misrepresenting cosmology and evolution which is not chaos