With the inclusion of Pyro and hopefully soon after the Nyx system we would see more opportunities for the need of a refinery ship. So, I do hope that the Arrastra is one ship they consider adding.
Yeah especially in pyro. With fewer stations with the opportunity for refinery. It'll become easier to predict where players will be coming to. And on top of that.. They've already mentioned that. The jump point between the two systems won't always be open. With the chances of it being camped.. It'd be a big risk to fly in with a massive load of rare and new materials just to get taken out. They really need to start introducing the larger ships like the ironclad because something like that will come In handy also. Because having a freightership that has heavy armor and can defend itself is going to be very valuable in these lower systems for moving largest amount of resources. When you don't have heavy escort for something like a C2 or Hull C, That almost requires an escort.
Epic new intro!!! Love it! MISC Fortune, Starlancer, and Mirai Guardian strongly suggest MISC as the next Family to hit the production line. I believe Polaris got more than just up gunned, a Cargo upgrade to 576ish SCU and a Cargo bay Tractor makes an appearance in one of the darker cargo bay images. I think the PDs and cargo changes will expand Polaris ownership.
11:09 from what I read and heard, my best guess is that the Argo CSV will be that Grav Trolley we saw in the Hangar Promo. It has a cargo grid, no weapons, no mention of wheels and 1 operator, so it fits the bill and the description. If not, it could be some kind of cargo ground vehicle like a truck.
@@brandopker6 Hull B is the biggest Hull series ship that can land in a hangar or on a planet extended. With 300+ SCU of cargo capacity it's the best ship for most of the haulers.
@@brandopker6 The Hull B doesn't need any of the Hull C's messy half-baked T0 implementations to work properly since it can just land fully loaded like the Hull A.
The problem with gate campers is an easy fix, if you park within a certain distance of a wormhole without actually using it, after a few minutes, your ship starts to take damage. You then have maybe ten minutes to leave, or your ship blows up.
@@SargeRho I thought about that, but there is an aversion to armistice zones at CIG. I know they are wanting to get rid of all armistice zones in the game.
@@GeneElder.R27 armistice zones and sentry guns aren't the same thing. The bunkers you go to for missions aren't armistice zones for example, but they do have defense weaponry.
Eh, the thing is though that you won't be able to solo it really well...like, you could send some big tubes down range but defending yourself solo you'd get wrekt really quick. So, once the newness wears off you'll only be seeing them as much as you'd see the Retaliator brought out nowadays...maybe even rarer than that.
There will be only Polaris in the Verse, with a solo player for each one flying them, with engeneer gameplay incoming :D It will be fun to destroy all of them :D
I hope everyone enjoyed this thrown together video. I didnt put my usual attention to quality on it, but figured the information is what is important. Thanks for the support everyone!
Im against them releasing ships without the features and im glad they held back the Zeus variants that are missing their gameplay. If they dont have a full picture of what that gameplay is, they may need to redesign them anyway. Do the job once, not twice. Just look at the Reclaimer and how much a mess that ship is. That is what you get when you design the ship before you design the gameplay the ship is meant for
Myself and a lot of guys who have been doing SC together for a few years decided to startup a Freelancing Org, we are all looking forward to getting into the Polaris.
@@mixedd69 Yeah, but that doesn't make sense. Salvage with the Vulture is already limited because of the 12scu cargo grid. A ground vehicle is going to have even less storage space, considerably less. So what possible use would it have?
@Zeoran just another game loop, in sense of ROC. Not everything is measured in quantity, tough I understand that everyone dream is to get rich fast and with minimal effort. IDK, something like ROC/Mule hybrid, where you could salvage ships that groundcrashed, with external cargo grid where to place salvaged components
The MISC Fortune doesn't make sense. What they NEED is a salvage ship that's above the solo Vulture and below the capital multi-crew Reclaimer. But the leaked specs on the Fortune in the game files show that it has a single size 2 powerplant, size 1 quantum drive and size 2 cooler That puts it at the SAME SIZE as the Vulture! We don't need a MISC Vulture with a salvage arm.
When I saw Kraken at the beginning, I was totally excited and looking forward to it. Thank you for this video and description, it makes me look forward to Star Citizen even more! I will continue to support this game and follow your channel.🎉❤
Hooray for new content btw, it's great. I would be really interested in seeing another episode of Fleetbuilders like the one with the Kraken. Maybe something centered on a Pioneer!
@@Rum_Runner it would actually be the Mark 5. The Connie we have now is the Mark 4. But they most likely won't go back and touch older ships until pretty much all of the upcoming ship systems and components are in the game. Otherwise they'll just have to go back and do it again.
The MISC Fortune doesn't make any sense. The only ship that would fit would be a multicrew ship between the solo Vulture and capital-sized Reclaimer. But according to the game file leaks, the Fortune only has a single size 2 powerplant, size 1 qt drive, size 2 cooler, that puts it in the SAME SIZE as the Vulture.
It is looking like CIG will turn to MISC next after RSI. Besides the Galaxy and Perseus which have been stated for work, I wonder about the Arrastra, Apollo and the Orion. Will they be finished before they start on another manufacturer. The Orion I suspect will go through a re-concept as I do not see the RSI design language in it. The Arrastra I wonder if they will keep the 1 scu boxes on the outside or change them maybe to 2 scu boxes. 512 scu of external storage is a lot for the game to track and I think will lag major ports.
My wallet is scared out of its mind. The Mirai Guardian is most exciting to me, but many of these sound like something I’d add to my fleet. Glad to see you making videos again! That was a great intro animation well done. Is it new?
4:56 the same reason they didn’t progress though all three of the Spirits variants, what ever the reason is for that. They didn’t add the transport variant for that. It’s likely they will do the same for Zeus.
13:37 hey grim would it be possible for you to add a ship 3D display mode in Hangar Link so we can look at concept ships in our browser? I think it would be neat
I can't see the MR and ST being released. They said ships will only be getting released from now on with their intended gameplay. I really cannot see Bounty Hunting 2.0 and Passenger flights coming anytime soon
Why not release the other Zeus variants anyway? Well, CIG said they weren’t releasing ships whose gameplay wasn’t in the PU yet. Of course, it didn’t stop them from selling the Cutter Scout. But it is the same reason they held back the E1 Spirit (which has been held back for a year now).
Why would the ST sell "really well"? There is absolutely 0 gameplay for them. It's not a gunship frame like the Constellation, so it won't be a miniature Phoenix. The passenger space would criple or even eliminate the single useful tool the Zeus frame has at this moment: Cargo
What would be a surprise would a new star system or three and some more actual structured gameplay content like a real game, not more ships to sell for a game that hasn't hit Beta in 13 years.
The original Polaris loadout was stupid. A Corsair Pilot had more firepower than 4 guys in the Polaris. 2 turrets with twin 4s and a chin 5. WTF. This is better way better, but large multicrew ships must have powerful turrets otherwise why man them.
its not even that the polaris was undergunned for its intended role as a torpedoboat that can swat off fighters with its turrets, it is just that the Corsair is stupidly overpowered and the last thing we need is even more power creep to compensate for that rather than a big corsair nerf which obviously will piss off a lot of corsair owners and rightfully so because that ship should have never released and sold the way it was to begin with tbh.
@@BizzMRKI think everyone agrees it's massively over gunned. Owners and prey alike would accept an S4 downgrade. The way they switched it is beyond retarded and I see hundreds of owners upgrading to a Polaris.
well, based on the Polaris, Bolstered defense, the Perseus needs at least 2 PDC-s top and bottom, and two snub fighters. Cos now The Polaris is not just a Capital Killer Torpedo boat, now its more balanced equipped. but then the Perseus is way to simple and vulnerable. at lest from my perspective. and i dont own a Perseus.
Promising a new ship and the old ones are idle, the Carrack is unusable, it doesn't even have a cargo hold, ridiculous, they keep exploiting and robbing buyers with promises.
the Thing is they ships big ships req you to have a Crew so i think many will burn in with their ships becouse you cant fly them alone or you simple do not have anogf friends to help you fly it an without NPC an it seem to be very far out in the Furture that will works you will burn in with these big ships for years to come sadly.
The Fortune is not a ship that sits between the Vulture and Reclaimer. It has s1 components. It is likely to be a Vulture competitor. Highly disappointed in the specs of the Mirai Guardian. S1 components? Single Seater? Look at how large that ship is with the two people as reference. It’s more Redeemer sized than a heavy fighter.
I would be happy if the Fortune was a Vulture competitor, especially if it's a little smaller and more likely to fit inside the Odyssey hangar. The Vulture seems just a little too long for it. Either way, the Fortune is probably the ship I'm most intrigued to learn about.
are you stupid? subject to change as in the ship can have remodels. he does own the polaris not a "polaris level donator" so renew on your facts lil bro
fact that they have done nothing but disappoint me all year long the legionnaire the MR are both ships that i have pledged for and both the MR and legionnaire have been delayed and now they raping The drake corsair if Cig keeps this up i am done spending my money of anything else from star citizen
With the inclusion of Pyro and hopefully soon after the Nyx system we would see more opportunities for the need of a refinery ship. So, I do hope that the Arrastra is one ship they consider adding.
Yeah especially in pyro. With fewer stations with the opportunity for refinery. It'll become easier to predict where players will be coming to. And on top of that.. They've already mentioned that. The jump point between the two systems won't always be open. With the chances of it being camped.. It'd be a big risk to fly in with a massive load of rare and new materials just to get taken out.
They really need to start introducing the larger ships like the ironclad because something like that will come In handy also. Because having a freightership that has heavy armor and can defend itself is going to be very valuable in these lower systems for moving largest amount of resources. When you don't have heavy escort for something like a C2 or Hull C, That almost requires an escort.
Epic new intro!!! Love it! MISC Fortune, Starlancer, and Mirai Guardian strongly suggest MISC as the next Family to hit the production line. I believe Polaris got more than just up gunned, a Cargo upgrade to 576ish SCU and a Cargo bay Tractor makes an appearance in one of the darker cargo bay images. I think the PDs and cargo changes will expand Polaris ownership.
I'm not gonna lie a 1:15 intro on youtube in 2024, like as if it's 2011 is crazy work bubba lol
11:09 from what I read and heard, my best guess is that the Argo CSV will be that Grav Trolley we saw in the Hangar Promo.
It has a cargo grid, no weapons, no mention of wheels and 1 operator, so it fits the bill and the description.
If not, it could be some kind of cargo ground vehicle like a truck.
Wish they'd release the Hull B already..
Same!
Why hull c don't even work
@@brandopker6 Hull B is the biggest Hull series ship that can land in a hangar or on a planet extended. With 300+ SCU of cargo capacity it's the best ship for most of the haulers.
@@brandopker6 The Hull B doesn't need any of the Hull C's messy half-baked T0 implementations to work properly since it can just land fully loaded like the Hull A.
With the game in its current state a Hull B would be an instant server killer.
The problem with gate campers is an easy fix, if you park within a certain distance of a wormhole without actually using it, after a few minutes, your ship starts to take damage. You then have maybe ten minutes to leave, or your ship blows up.
Or do what some other space MMOs do: Sentry guns.
@@SargeRho I thought about that, but there is an aversion to armistice zones at CIG. I know they are wanting to get rid of all armistice zones in the game.
@@GeneElder.R27 armistice zones and sentry guns aren't the same thing. The bunkers you go to for missions aren't armistice zones for example, but they do have defense weaponry.
@@plmokm33 ok, i dont feel like arguing this. whatever.
@@GeneElder.R27 Then they need to add some mechanic to break or scout gate camps. Firing probes through a gate, maybe?
I'm getting scared with how many players own a Polaris.
I have a bad feeling we're going to be seeing the bloody things EVERYWHERE!
Eh, the thing is though that you won't be able to solo it really well...like, you could send some big tubes down range but defending yourself solo you'd get wrekt really quick. So, once the newness wears off you'll only be seeing them as much as you'd see the Retaliator brought out nowadays...maybe even rarer than that.
Dont worry it'll get nerfed into the ground but you could always use the Corsair, ion or redeem to stop it.....
Yeah, and they’re going to be used as cargo ships.
@@ChristoffRevanexactly
There will be only Polaris in the Verse, with a solo player for each one flying them, with engeneer gameplay incoming :D It will be fun to destroy all of them :D
I hope everyone enjoyed this thrown together video. I didnt put my usual attention to quality on it, but figured the information is what is important. Thanks for the support everyone!
Love the StarJump family!
Im against them releasing ships without the features and im glad they held back the Zeus variants that are missing their gameplay. If they dont have a full picture of what that gameplay is, they may need to redesign them anyway. Do the job once, not twice. Just look at the Reclaimer and how much a mess that ship is. That is what you get when you design the ship before you design the gameplay the ship is meant for
The 600i rework would be a pleasant surprise.
Seems like it’s been forever since they announced it. Well. “Forever” in normal time. “Not that long ago” in CiG time lol.
Not going to happen until exploration is in the game. They don't need another Reclaimer on their hands
If I didn't know who you were, I would swear Saltemike was actually being optimistic about something! 😂
Myself and a lot of guys who have been doing SC together for a few years decided to startup a Freelancing Org, we are all looking forward to getting into the Polaris.
How's that going for you guys?
@@tgfover9000 Well we just started the Org proper about 2 weeks ago so still working on branding, setup, planning, etc.
@ThreeVINflies I love the org I'm in, I wish you guys the best of luck, and hope Star Citizen is playable for you guys to enjoy.
Before you drop any potential spoilers about SQ42 you should warn people. I honestly would have avoided hearing anything about the boss for example.
Grow up
you can say the same about the Spirit they are holding off on the Spirit E1 which is the passenger version
I don't know why they chose to do this, we can transport players now. I don't see how anything would need to change to accommodate NPC passengers
@@ian_everywhere It's probably more that almost no players actually make use of player transportation services so there's no real game loop.
"Freelancer" and "Starlancer" are the names of Chris Roberts' previous games that are the precursors to Star Citizen and SQ42.
You missed something. The Greycat (not Argo) CSV/CAV has a salvage arm like the MISC Fortune.
@@Zeoran So we can probably expect Salvage ROC? And ground salvage gameplay?
@@mixedd69 Yeah, but that doesn't make sense. Salvage with the Vulture is already limited because of the 12scu cargo grid. A ground vehicle is going to have even less storage space, considerably less. So what possible use would it have?
@Zeoran just another game loop, in sense of ROC. Not everything is measured in quantity, tough I understand that everyone dream is to get rich fast and with minimal effort.
IDK, something like ROC/Mule hybrid, where you could salvage ships that groundcrashed, with external cargo grid where to place salvaged components
The MISC Fortune doesn't make sense. What they NEED is a salvage ship that's above the solo Vulture and below the capital multi-crew Reclaimer.
But the leaked specs on the Fortune in the game files show that it has a single size 2 powerplant, size 1 quantum drive and size 2 cooler That puts it at the SAME SIZE as the Vulture!
We don't need a MISC Vulture with a salvage arm.
I really want them to put the Arrastra into the RSI queue with the Polaris/Galaxy/Perseus.
That would be awesome, I was hoping they would start work on refinery gameplay soon so they could get it in the queue.
When I saw Kraken at the beginning, I was totally excited and looking forward to it. Thank you for this video and description, it makes me look forward to Star Citizen even more! I will continue to support this game and follow your channel.🎉❤
I'd love a mid-sized salvage ship. I have no interest in a Reclaimer, and the Vulture is too small for serious work. Thanks for the update, Grim. o7!
Literally they will release the Zeus and everything else will be concept. Every year it's +1 ship for the year and 6-8+ concepts that we won't see.
Hooray for new content btw, it's great. I would be really interested in seeing another episode of Fleetbuilders like the one with the Kraken. Maybe something centered on a Pioneer!
Absolutely yes on more fleet builders content
I just wish they would finish fixing up their older ships, like the Constellation series.
Probably get the Mark 2 treatment tbh
@@Rum_Runner god forbid if its mk 2
@@Rum_Runner it would actually be the Mark 5. The Connie we have now is the Mark 4. But they most likely won't go back and touch older ships until pretty much all of the upcoming ship systems and components are in the game. Otherwise they'll just have to go back and do it again.
@@Rum_Runner That would be interesting
@@harabecswurveweathers correct, but I was referring to the treatment not the lore accurate version numbers 😂
The Vanduuls heavy figther from pipeline leak look sick !!
The MISC Fortune doesn't make any sense. The only ship that would fit would be a multicrew ship between the solo Vulture and capital-sized Reclaimer.
But according to the game file leaks, the Fortune only has a single size 2 powerplant, size 1 qt drive, size 2 cooler, that puts it in the SAME SIZE as the Vulture.
@@Zeoran same kit,bigger dispenser and hold?
IIRC it was a single salvage station of Reclaimer size.
Pretty sure the fortune is supposed to be the MISC alternative to the vulture
It is looking like CIG will turn to MISC next after RSI. Besides the Galaxy and Perseus which have been stated for work, I wonder about the Arrastra, Apollo and the Orion. Will they be finished before they start on another manufacturer. The Orion I suspect will go through a re-concept as I do not see the RSI design language in it. The Arrastra I wonder if they will keep the 1 scu boxes on the outside or change them maybe to 2 scu boxes. 512 scu of external storage is a lot for the game to track and I think will lag major ports.
There was also reference to an Argo CSV cargo. I was hoping this might be a space eighteen wheeler.
Oh very interesting thanks for the heads up Platinum
Great video. Thanks for all the ship news updates and rumors.
I still think "passenger" is describing which side of the ship the objects (such as spoilers of a wing) are on, but we'll see for sure in the future
My wallet is scared out of its mind. The Mirai Guardian is most exciting to me, but many of these sound like something I’d add to my fleet.
Glad to see you making videos again! That was a great intro animation well done. Is it new?
4:56 the same reason they didn’t progress though all three of the Spirits variants, what ever the reason is for that. They didn’t add the transport variant for that. It’s likely they will do the same for Zeus.
Polaris Crew Training Coming Soon™
13:37 hey grim would it be possible for you to add a ship 3D display mode in Hangar Link so we can look at concept ships in our browser? I think it would be neat
Now we need black space back for a Polaris first flight. Should be prio 1!
I love your content LETS GO
Great video. Looking forward to crewing someone's Perseus
All these new ships and yet we can't even use the suit lockers... obviously, sales are their only concern.
Seing that Jumpgate in the first minute makes me weep for what CIG took away from us. (-_-)
I can't see the MR and ST being released. They said ships will only be getting released from now on with their intended gameplay. I really cannot see Bounty Hunting 2.0 and Passenger flights coming anytime soon
love the paint jobs on the ships
Why not release the other Zeus variants anyway? Well, CIG said they weren’t releasing ships whose gameplay wasn’t in the PU yet. Of course, it didn’t stop them from selling the Cutter Scout. But it is the same reason they held back the E1 Spirit (which has been held back for a year now).
F7CR mk2 is in there as well. I'm hyped for the new stuff
Excellent production.
We really let some suprices to CiG so the stuff can enjoy releasing infos and things more.
Everything new will be buffed to max to sell after some time expect to nerf all ships to make a room for next patch of meta ships and 🔁
Why would the ST sell "really well"? There is absolutely 0 gameplay for them. It's not a gunship frame like the Constellation, so it won't be a miniature Phoenix.
The passenger space would criple or even eliminate the single useful tool the Zeus frame has at this moment: Cargo
That intro is too good 👍
Thanks !!
What would be a surprise would a new star system or three and some more actual structured gameplay content like a real game, not more ships to sell for a game that hasn't hit Beta in 13 years.
Seeing the galaxy in game makes me want it to release even worse. Even though there is no need for it without base building and refining
I'd love to get the MR early that be great
im just waiting for the muria gaurdian and i hope it has a spot for a titan suite so i can have ground and heavy fighter all in one
I would offer a warning to Polaris owners. Enjoy your big guns for a year or two. After that you will be nerfed to promote the sale of newer ships.
I also own a Polaris and am recruiting a crew to help crew it and go on adventures going forward!
I didnt know you guys hav a youtube channel. Im subscribed now!
Where else would you know them from?
@@SpaceDad42 Rsi community website.
Man wonder if crusader e1 is in the pipeline too but not in the files yet.
why all the new MISC ships coming out when the Odyssey is long long long past due?
exciting!
If the MR doesn't release will we get a variant as a loaner?
That intro is fire tho
Dude, where did you get that early render of the intrepid?
The original Polaris loadout was stupid. A Corsair Pilot had more firepower than 4 guys in the Polaris. 2 turrets with twin 4s and a chin 5. WTF. This is better way better, but large multicrew ships must have powerful turrets otherwise why man them.
its not even that the polaris was undergunned for its intended role as a torpedoboat that can swat off fighters with its turrets, it is just that the Corsair is stupidly overpowered and the last thing we need is even more power creep to compensate for that rather than a big corsair nerf which obviously will piss off a lot of corsair owners and rightfully so because that ship should have never released and sold the way it was to begin with tbh.
@@BizzMRKI think everyone agrees it's massively over gunned. Owners and prey alike would accept an S4 downgrade. The way they switched it is beyond retarded and I see hundreds of owners upgrading to a Polaris.
Why mention respecting CIG having their proper reveals with the Intrepid and show off the Guardian render lmao
well, based on the Polaris, Bolstered defense, the Perseus needs at least 2 PDC-s top and bottom, and two snub fighters. Cos now The Polaris is not just a Capital Killer Torpedo boat, now its more balanced equipped. but then the Perseus is way to simple and vulnerable. at lest from my perspective. and i dont own a Perseus.
Promising a new ship and the old ones are idle, the Carrack is unusable, it doesn't even have a cargo hold, ridiculous, they keep exploiting and robbing buyers with promises.
Why all the artifacts? Is your video-card dying on you or has the cable gone bad? AWESOME video btw! Cheers!
MISC. Fortune. Misfortune.
They wouldn't.........
a very nice list :)
Jep we don't fix ships we make new ones
i just wish they did the Perseus first, haha.
Is this running on the atari st?
that mech suit is aweful get the concept one out looks so much better
the Thing is they ships big ships req you to have a Crew so i think many will burn in with their ships becouse you cant fly them alone or you simple do not have anogf friends to help you fly it
an without NPC an it seem to be very far out in the Furture that will works you will burn in with these big ships for years to come sadly.
who cares about new ships at this point? simps apparently still pledging and allowing CIG to basically do bare minimum
The Fortune is not a ship that sits between the Vulture and Reclaimer. It has s1 components. It is likely to be a Vulture competitor.
Highly disappointed in the specs of the Mirai Guardian. S1 components? Single Seater? Look at how large that ship is with the two people as reference. It’s more Redeemer sized than a heavy fighter.
I would be happy if the Fortune was a Vulture competitor, especially if it's a little smaller and more likely to fit inside the Odyssey hangar. The Vulture seems just a little too long for it. Either way, the Fortune is probably the ship I'm most intrigued to learn about.
Where's my BMM, Orion, Liberator, IronClad, E1, Arrastra...
None of this stuff is comings out, these are comercials made to make us think they are.
It is clear it is going to xbox.
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Wowie
Starlancer is the Freelancer Mk2 because they won’t be reworking Freelancer
Bringing out MKII variants before the game even releases is dogshit.....unbelievable
You’re not a Polaris owner… you’re a Polaris level donator. CIG does not sell ships. All rewards subject to change.
are you stupid? subject to change as in the ship can have remodels. he does own the polaris not a "polaris level donator" so renew on your facts lil bro
Thanks for telling us what we know!
80s for an intro, cut it out
You can skip it.
Yea. A almost clicked off the video because I thought it was just another shitty 3d render showcase.
Game over for SC
fact that they have done nothing but disappoint me all year long the legionnaire the MR are both ships that i have pledged for and both the MR and legionnaire have been delayed and now they raping The drake corsair if Cig keeps this up i am done spending my money of anything else from star citizen
😂
If I had a penny for every time someone has said “I’m done giving CIG money”…
@@reveille1289 you'd have so much more money to give to CIG lol
Promoting fraud, good one
Great video. Thanks for all the ship news updates and rumors.