The irony is fighting a war in Afghanistan to avenge a country (the USA) and then that country basically loses interest and fucks it all up, and quite early on. The war was lost as soon as George W Bush decided that the US (and a few idiot follower countries) would invade Iraq, and that hunting down Bin Laden & Al Qaida was no longer a major priority for them. This means the Afghanistan war was basically hooped from as far back as 2003, when a lot of the big operations had not even happened yet. The Taliban & Al Qaida had been smashed, driven out of power - but then the USA did something so clearly treacherous, it lost whatever sympathy they might have had in the muslim world and supercharged the recruiting efforts of jihadis all over the globe, and resurrected the Taliban from the edge of death, back to taking power again 2 decades later. Maybe in 2011 when Bin Laden was killed by Obama's government, that was the time to say "well, we did what was needed" and still walk out of there with something resembling a win. Quite a few NATO nations did so after that, but got wrongly criticized for that. Naturally the Americans could not resist continuing to meddle until it was way beyond any logical sense. If not for all the spilled blood, it would be funny: guys like Dostum or Hekmatiar, after a lifetime spent on bloodshed and cunningly switching sides so many times, will probably in the end die of old age. They have outlasted all the imperial tourist armies.
Well Scott, cultures and norms are very different worldwide aren’t they? “Lost” because the superstitious fundamentalists like their culture the way it is. That’s why we should keep this country’s culture exactly the same and prevent any changes
I remember the catch phrase of the war was win the hearts and mind of the people. There is no damn way you can change the hearts and minds of a culture that is completely opposite of yours in less then a 100 years. Again it all comes down to poor management.
You are just like me, Scott; you are a trained killer. I remember Afghanistan just from the news reports, we went over in our green camo which really stood out against the burning sand and fields of poppy, more expensive than oil. The Yanks dropped a bomb on us; "Friendly Fire" it was a night time training exercise, it killed 4 soldiers and I guess scarred a great number of others. I'm thinking the Yankee mind, get a little blood on them, toughen them up. Because we were Dudly Do Right, always are, just listen to you. I was on my Group Three at Chilliwack when I met my future Troop Officer who was an Officer Cadet at the time, named Peter Dawe. His son was born about the same time as my daughter. His son, Matthew was killed in Afghanistan. It's sort of personal like I lost someone in Afghanistan. I'm quite sure that we, (The Five Eyes) were helping Afghans fight Russians because they started knocking a lot of aircraft out of the sky, one of the planes had over 500 Russian soldiers. I am a veteran of the FLQ Crisis, I was stationed out of the Citadel in Quebec City; when that Detail ended I was despatched to Saint Hubert in Montreal when that Detail ended I returned to ValCartier but then was despatched out to the Power Grid with my own Unit 5e EG du C and we Stood Down on Mar. 2, 1971. There is no Record of my service with DND during the War Measures Act. I was on a flight out West and I had a conversation with a General, at some later time he wrote a letter to 5e EG du Canada commending me, I never received the letter, I don't know who the General was and it is not in my docs! My C.O. at this time, a Colonel was charged with misappropriation of Government property but of course he had Legal Representation and he beat the Charge. I believe DND's motto at that time was "No life like it!
@@lloydkuepfer1599 Afghanistan had nothing to do with 9/11 apart from al quada having a base there and when they were kicked out NATO stayed. Also my question was about why CANADA was there, 9/11 had nothing to do with CANADA.
Great video Scott - Very informative.
Canada lost her way 30 years ago and now is merely a faded replica of American culture.
Except that is much more obsessed with needless diversity, social engineering, and identity politics.
Simple, because they fought it like the Americans in Vietnam. They had no specific “long term” goals.
Mad respect to the 75-year old woman sporting the red tank top intended for a 20-year old bar star. That takes guts.
Scott, your a exemplary Canadian
The irony is fighting a war in Afghanistan to avenge a country (the USA) and then that country basically loses interest and fucks it all up, and quite early on.
The war was lost as soon as George W Bush decided that the US (and a few idiot follower countries) would invade Iraq, and that hunting down Bin Laden & Al Qaida was no longer a major priority for them. This means the Afghanistan war was basically hooped from as far back as 2003, when a lot of the big operations had not even happened yet. The Taliban & Al Qaida had been smashed, driven out of power - but then the USA did something so clearly treacherous, it lost whatever sympathy they might have had in the muslim world and supercharged the recruiting efforts of jihadis all over the globe, and resurrected the Taliban from the edge of death, back to taking power again 2 decades later.
Maybe in 2011 when Bin Laden was killed by Obama's government, that was the time to say "well, we did what was needed" and still walk out of there with something resembling a win. Quite a few NATO nations did so after that, but got wrongly criticized for that. Naturally the Americans could not resist continuing to meddle until it was way beyond any logical sense.
If not for all the spilled blood, it would be funny: guys like Dostum or Hekmatiar, after a lifetime spent on bloodshed and cunningly switching sides so many times, will probably in the end die of old age. They have outlasted all the imperial tourist armies.
As much as I nag about the vax mandates here, you're good people Scott.
Well Scott, cultures and norms are very different worldwide aren’t they? “Lost” because the superstitious fundamentalists like their culture the way it is. That’s why we should keep this country’s culture exactly the same and prevent any changes
I remember the catch phrase of the war was win the hearts and mind of the people. There is no damn way you can change the hearts and minds of a culture that is completely opposite of yours in less then a 100 years. Again it all comes down to poor management.
You are just like me, Scott; you are a trained killer. I remember Afghanistan just from the news reports, we went over in our green camo which really stood out against the burning sand and fields of poppy, more expensive than oil. The Yanks dropped a bomb on us; "Friendly Fire" it was a night time training exercise, it killed 4 soldiers and I guess scarred a great number of others. I'm thinking the Yankee mind, get a little blood on them, toughen them up. Because we were Dudly Do Right, always are, just listen to you. I was on my Group Three at Chilliwack when I met my future Troop Officer who was an Officer Cadet at the time, named Peter Dawe. His son was born about the same time as my daughter. His son, Matthew was killed in Afghanistan. It's sort of personal like I lost someone in Afghanistan. I'm quite sure that we, (The Five Eyes) were helping Afghans fight Russians because they started knocking a lot of aircraft out of the sky, one of the planes had over 500 Russian soldiers. I am a veteran of the FLQ Crisis, I was stationed out of the Citadel in Quebec City; when that Detail ended I was despatched to Saint Hubert in Montreal when that Detail ended I returned to ValCartier but then was despatched out to the Power Grid with my own Unit 5e EG du C and we Stood Down on Mar. 2, 1971. There is no Record of my service with DND during the War Measures Act. I was on a flight out West and I had a conversation with a General, at some later time he wrote a letter to 5e EG du Canada commending me, I never received the letter, I don't know who the General was and it is not in my docs! My C.O. at this time, a Colonel was charged with misappropriation of Government property but of course he had Legal Representation and he beat the Charge. I believe DND's motto at that time was "No life like it!
So once again it begs the question as to why Canada gets involved in conflicts that have nothing to do with us🤔
Because we had a big ego general at the wheel.
Remember why this war started
@@derek89273No. Remember 9/11
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Afghanistan had nothing to do with 9/11 apart from al quada having a base there and when they were kicked out NATO stayed.
Also my question was about why CANADA was there, 9/11 had nothing to do with CANADA.
Because we wouldn't get to chair as many international committees on rail gauge width and traffic sign colours or some shit.