FINAL PART - Sundown 18s on 16,000 Watts | dB Test!!
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
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Parker makes me want to continue my basshead journey with every upload
Big facts 👨🚀
Yeah man… Parker & @jacobviral really be keeping me my basshead mission, even tho I’m not runnin a wall and (6)12’s or nothin like tht but I’m bassin tho… 4000+ wts daily… thanks yall
Take the power and ground loose on your amps and grab your multi meter and check for continuity on the ground lug to the outside of the rca terminals. If it makes a sound you will need a ground loop isolator!! Hope this helps
This is 100% correct
Them 18s for 700 is crazyyyy that’s a good find!
I don't even do this stuff anymore but I love watching these vids. Gives me old school vibes.
Same here, but I am however about to get off my old lazy butt and build me a center console box for my back seats in my truck for 3-12’s lol
Cause I miss not having much bass in my vehicle and I loved doing it…
You need a ground loop isolator on the 4 channel RCA's - some amps just need it... every setup is unique
Love the build. By the way, you can ground a wire on your head unit and slide it under the RCA that plugs into the 4 channel amp and it should kill the noise. I had to do it on my setup.
I wouldn't mind seeing 2 of the Def Bonce 15's(the big boys ) pushed by that 16k amp you have in place. Would like 2 see how that works out.
How bout some them 45 series 18s
You need a ground loop isolator on your amp ground. This is caused by the amp trying to pass its ground through your head unit.
He needs to wrap a bare wire around the head unit rca's and the other end to something metal. That's what I did and it fixed the problem. BigVell02 wrote and told me about that.
I believe he had already grounded the rca on another video. What I have seen is that if he has low voltage on rca, the signal is weak, leading to set the gain higher / more sensitive, leading to the introduction of noise.
I have a very weird problem. I would have same engine whine but only audible at volume 1. Volume increase to 2,3,4 and you won't hear it.
So what's weird is when Im driving around in the city at some spots my front left speaker starts playing music which I guess is it's picking some radio signals. It would play this music at a low steady volume regardless of what volume is on head unit. One time during this occurrence, I turned off the HU and this music still keeps playing. I have no idea what exactly is that
I've fixed that alternator whine before but I forget how I did it.
Grounding everything at the spot or on a buss bar will fix this
18 inch subs are just a different kind of monster!
Yessir!!
Hey Parker I just wanted to let you know that your videos inspired me to get into car audio and even install a crazy setup in my car! Unfortunately after the car got totaled, the insurance took everything then I just gave up. But after seeing the progress on this build it inspired me to start again and hopefully do even better than last time. Love the videos, keep up the good work, and I can’t wait to see people’s reaction when they hear these 18s 😂.
You can pay for additional insurance coverage for items/accessories installed in your car, including stereo. I had a $3000+ system stolen out of my 1990 Integra back in like 1999. I had additional accessories insurance coverage, and got back the full replacement value ($3000) of the equipment after providing receipts to Insurance company. I think it was maybe an extra $20 a month for that $3000 in extra coverage.
I really like the Sundown X subs. Super clean bass.
Check for continuity of the outer RCA terminal/Shield to the negative battery terminal on the amps. If both amps have continuity, you’ll get whine no matter what you do. An isolator might fix it.
The wining noise can be because the amp has a open ground circuit and the taramps has a isolated ground circuit (not shure tho). If this is the case you can try and connect the ground of your rca to the ground of your amp to bypass this and hopefully there wont be a ground loop tru your input signal.
Ground loop somewhere. Test your ground potential resistance. Run a ground from your alternator to your rear battery bank and then ground everything to the battery bank for a single common ground. If you have to run your radio ground directly to the rear battery bank as well.
Awesome stuff Parker!!!! Best part about running the 18th is that brutal impact they have, and the best thing about running the 612 is they can be driven harder for longer bc its so much more coil to take heat n power!!
Yoo, ez fix without an isolator, add a 2nd ground from your head unit (i use the back screw hole) to any good ground point. Litterally the stupidest sounding thing ever but it worked great in all my cars.. hope to see all yall this weekend at slam!!🎉
Sam with barevids on RUclips just put out a engine whine vid, may have some helpful info for you. Love the 2-18s build BTW
I had that problem and bought stinger audiophile 8000 series rca cables fixed my problem instantly
That build is massive, great job
I learned not to run RCAs next to live wires years ago. Everytime I'd turn on the system my subs would pop/thump loudly from the current transfer through the wire insulation
The issue is grounds . Check and make sure all are clean and re ground the headunit .
The noise could be from your alternator if it's only when car running. Slamming setup
I'm so happy for you Parker. Almost 100k subs .
I live for these videos man you inspire me to always keep pushing for my goals
So good to hear man!!
It is nice seeing these epic bass head systems
@@ParkerTheBasshead please take your subscribers advice I'd like to see a video next with the same setup and a DSP so you can show them how much more DBs you get out with a DSP or equalizer...
Kick scores are nice, but the more impressive scores is on the glass 😎
Definitely a insane build , we all need this 🔥🔥
I just have a comment and a question I watch all your videos about sundown speakers and I fell in love with these speakers . I really like the video of when you put bass subs in your wife Lil suv. My question is if I sent you my 2001 Chevy suburban would you make it sound nice with sundown products.
Awesome setup Parker, you’re the man. That’s awesome of Big Jeff to keep hooking you up also.
Thanks man! And yeah he’s a good dude for sure
If you have a Pioneer head unit, they tend to have pico fuses and if they pop I've heard that they will cause a engine whine.
Another could be the ground on the head unit if you're using the factory vehicle harness ground, add a second ground to the head units black ground wire or run a dedicated ground wire as the factory harness could have a ground issue (found this out with a friend's vehicle)..
Last option since you said all of your 4ch amps have had a whine, try a test head unit local to the amp just to see if it's in the wiring from the head unit in the dash or the head unit itself. If the whine goes away when using a test head unit then you could have a bad set of RCA's going to your 4ch amp where a wire is rubbing internally or the head unit in the dash has an issue or is bad..
Good luck as I HATE engine whine 😆
Wrap a bare wire around the head unit rca's and to sometimes metal. It should solve your noise going through the speakers😎💯
I dont know why so many people hate on Skar. Its good for what it is. @2:18 Most of us are not competing. Most of us dont have sundown money.
I recently thought I killed my JP8 so I got an NVX2700. I am pretty sure the EVL15 wont last with this amp. My idea was to blow it and get a Sundown Zv2 cuz I thought it would match perfectly to that amp. Now I am finding out I can't get that sub. I finally have the money for the sub I want and now I cant get it, and now what's available will require more power than the amp I just got to use the full excursion. Unless I am mistaken.
Just a testament to any people who dont have the money. The EVL line is the budget sweet spot for skar. The SDR line is junk. My EVL has been pounding since 2018 on a jp8. Its not liking the new amp though. Most speakers are over rated and match the amps accordingly
Anyways Parker, you know what amp I got. I really wanted a zv2. What do you think will fully flex at 2500 watts real watts. I know sundown underrates. The skar was rated for 1500 but I am sure 1000 was what it was really rated for. I assume the zv2 rated at 1500 will max out at 2500. Shame all amps and subs cant be rated the same way so we dont have to guess.
To get rid of the noise first unplug RCA to make sure it's a signal problem and not them amp them plug them back on, take a length of wire stripped on both ends and start testing ground. Amp, to chassis, amp rca ground to chassis, head unit to chassis, head unit rca ground to chassis, etc. If that don't work, run a RCA over the seats to the amp and see if that fixes it before rewiring. On your headunit don't use just the factory ground on the harness
Making sure all your grounds connect to same point. You won't hear any whine - that includes your head unit as well to the same ground point as well as all amps.
Good luck to everyone on the giveaway fingers crossed
You mentioned purchasing another vehicle for a wall build. I suggest you get a 07-14 Chevy Tahoe for the fact you can run multiple alternators to help feed the amps power. You won't have to worry about being stranded if your alt were to die at a show.
Try running the power (yellow) and ground (black) wires of your head unit to your battery bank and leave the red hook to ignition. That might help with the noise.
Good idea!!
Love the build! Stick with the 18’s for the WOW factor!
Hey another awesome build. Cant wait for my next setup in the works. 2 solo x in my sienna. Cant wait
Using a noise filter for the power input on the headunit and any processing units will usually do the trick for alternator noise.
So by total area cone displacement 2 18s is pretty close to 6 12s that's because the cones are deeper and bigger around and can move a lot more air round then a 12. I know a lot of people are gonna be like no it's 3 but that math is not accurate as you're not taking into account all the aspects. It all comes down to the amount of air you can move and 18s can move a whole lot. You can generally get more total movement from bigger subs as well. Although the tech on subs is always improving.
Pretty impressive numbers from just a pair of subs…Monster subs and amp that is! so cool!
Your videos make me wanna spend everything on car audio
I'm learning a lot from you Parker keep up the good videos
Good to hear man!!
Hook your head unit power and ground up to the lithium bank directly. Whine is possibly from a voltage difference from what the amps see vs the head unit
Parker, put an external second ground on the radio itself to see if alternator whine improves.
The whine is from those Knukonceptz cables. I had the same ones and the same problem I changed over to the sky-high premium cables and it all went away.
Flare this big ass port and gain 1 or 2 dB and dont forget: peak SPL frequency sometime shift when high SPL compared to low SPL.. you might gain again 0.5 or even 1 more dB if trying otehr frequency at max output! Great job btw!
That's the same score I got with my 12" Zv5 hybrids and salt 8 152.6! Badass 👊
@Chris-B-Bassin- You would not get that high of a score in parkers huge suv. I lost 4Db going from my car to a large suv like parkers. Same exact complete system swap, and the new bigger vehicle had way better electrical/voltage!
@evilinside5984 well good thing you can fit more cone area 🤣
@@Chris-B-Bassin- Most people dont realize how the size/volume of a vehicles interior really effects the output of a system. Thats why Honda Crx vehicles were/are very popular in Db competitions, for very high burp/spl scores.
@evilinside5984 agreed, much easier to create pressure in a smaller space. I have nsv5 12s now at .5 but I haven't metered it yet
@@Chris-B-Bassin- What impedance were you wired too with the 2-12" Zv5 hybrids, when you did that 152.6Db, and @ what freq.?
Hope you are at slamology next weekend would be a honor to meet you and master will! Bass on!
Love the build, Im a fan of the 4 12 setup that I have currently, its 4 Sundown x12 v3s on a JP83 amplifier. To me it's nice to be able to split the power across 4 coils and allows me to demo and play music for longer and nothing get hot. Currently pulling a 156.3 from the build with the outlaw in the kick and window down tuned at 35hz. After watching your scores I'm glad I have a smaller suv so my efficiency is really good. I was getting a 154 on my old taramps smart 5k I had. Your videos have been helpful towards my build and glad I watch your channel. Next up building a bigger lithium bank for the build and going to use your guide for the 160AH because currently, I have 60ah on a 320 Singer alternator.
Are you running your JP83 amp @ 1 ohm, or 1/2 ohm?
@@evilinside5984 I’m wired at .5 on the amp currently good sir, so getting good power to my subs.
@@Y3nny What does your voltage drop to @ the lowest, while revving approx. 2k rpm? You think you are clamping 10k of power!?
@@evilinside5984 My voltage drop at 2k rpm is about 13.3-13.4 if I am doing a test tone and burping it.On music around 13.8 when im hardcore jamming. When idling and my vehicle idles at 750 and I currently can't turn it up since my vehicle has an idle air control valve, I drop to about 13.0 I have seen it hit 12.9 once and that was while I was absolutely pushing it on a song that has no break or anything it was a demo song I remastered. I haven't got it clamped yet but Im confident at my tuning frequency where my rise is the lowest I am seeing close to 10k from that amp. The JP83 is a beast of an amp I just put it in not a month ago so I haven't had it very long. But it does get pretty warm at half ohm but after I put a ABS Turbo fan on the amp it helps keep the temp down on the amp. But where I live we see around 100 degree days if not more so I don't really blame the amp for getting warm too much. Sorry if I wrote you a book to read lmao!
@@Y3nny Thank you very much, i love all of the details you gave. Those amplifiers have an internal temp. meter built into the bass knobs, have you had the amp overheat and go into protect, and if so @ what temp. did that occur @?
That would happen to me I would try a noise filter.
Put ground on the tulp cable
X series is my favorite line of subs from Sundown. Wipe those 18's down with a armor all wipe,they look dusty. A innocent suggestion,no insult intended
For the noise run the headunit power and ground to the rear lithium battery.
had a whine when i revved my engine and had it for years no matter what i did it made that whine, i never had my power wires near my rca's. so one day i was like i want to be like sir mix a lot and the some posse on broadway, how it says got the alpine bumping and i bought a new alpine and replaced my old jvc and no more whine i did nothing else but replace the head unit. last time i did a db drag i hit 147.7 with 2 12in kicker comp subs in a sealed box. alpine head unit, mtx crossover, 2 rockford fosgate punch 200ix amps in my 92 saturn sl2. oh and i used the original door speakers. in db drags they dont let you have the windows down or even cracked.
I have that same problem now that you had the mood annoys those RCA cables or bad ones distortion goes through them you have to replace them that will definitely work
I'm willing to bet the reason you get ground noises while in gear is your ground from your transmission to your battery is the culprit. Run a ground from your front battery (or delete box) to your block near your transmission, and see if that does it. It's what was causing mine to whine. 😊
yeah, you Parker is a inspiration on my builds also, just got a vw up battery bank installed in my car today, first time with litium, and damn! was expecting pretty good voltage, but this was insane.... anyone wondering about going to litium from agm, just do it
Thanks for the video, was wondering how it was going since the last video!
One day ill go from my current Skar to Sundown. Just need the money 💸
Ground the rcas behind the head unit. I usually run wire from the outer part of connector to a screw on back of the head unit. stops all whine. GM trucks whine like banshees, so you kinda have to do that. Ground Loop Isolators never worked for me. I just ground the cables and it's crystal clear.
Your my favorite bass head RUclipsr! Very informative while still being funny and showing what we like to see! One day I’ll be as loud as you 🥲 currently have a Honda fit (rear seats fold flat) have a RF p2 12 on 300 watts. Wanting to upgrade subs and amp . Maybe something around 2k
Mine has about 3500 watts between the 2 amps. Looking back I'd probably stay around 1k. Above that they rattle too much to sound good. Also it's hard to find a good battery that will fit and the biggest alternator I've seen is 160 amps.
Btw you can override the smart charging and keep your voltage up by having the headlights on
I WOULD DIE for some deaf bonce :) since watching parker, my love for car audio has trippled :) love all his know how and d.i.y ;) awesome work parker,
Hey Parker! Some of the OGs and I are hoping you will continue your vs series with 10" vs 8", and 12" vs 10". We really enjoyed the first two, (8vs6.5 and 15vs12) and wonder if you will be sealing the deal. Thanks in advance! Jeff from BHOLB. 🤘
Yes i definitely plan to do more!
@@ParkerTheBasshead Really appreciate it. Super helpful when making the call on sacrificing cargo space for output.
What your hearing is the alternator through your Amp.
Ground your alternator better and it should get rid of that feed back...
Definitely need a ground loop isolator on your RCA and also put a ground on the external of your head unit.
Yeah that sounds of being loud and proud I love you video man keep on basin my brother.
I’m doing a 148.1 with 2 sundown SAv2 18s on a Rockford bdCP 2500.1. Hoping I squeeze a 150 out of it this weekend with some tweaking.
Do you have space to add some round-offs on the port?
A few layers off wood, maybe 3 inches wide and a bit of filing to get a big radius on the port, improve the output a tiny bit.
If rcas have to pass over power or ground. It's best to try to cross them at 90° angle. Inductive noise is sometimes very hard to track down. It could be even a single door speaker wire causing that.
Another thing is something Sam from barevids explains in detail. If one amp has a floating ground and the other is balanced. It could cause engine noise. He says to avoid this it's best to find both amps with same grounding for rcas.
Too get rid of the engine whine+--Tale a piece of wire and run from one of the Jacks on the back of the Radio to a screw on the of the Radio.Dont matter which Jack you use-----Its works
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I would definitely redo your grounds on all of your amps they should be no longer than 18 inches.
I got 2 sundown 10 xv2 I'm running about 8k rms daily I have played them for hours wide open with no smell or problems
Thats forsure a popped pico fuse in that head unit. Pioneers and some other brands may have a pico fuse which grounds the rcas inside the head unit. Happened to my last pioneer unit, the pico fuse usually pops when rcas get unplugged with the head unit on or get shorted out somewhere.
My experience with Marts and Expert Electronics whining is the same as Parker’s. It’s not the Pico fuse. As soon as I swapped amps the whine goes away.
@@jxke that's because some amplifiers have better noise filtering circuitry, then others that are cheaply built. Also, very good quality rca cables that are properly shielded, can be ran as he had it at first, With no issues of engine noise.
The pico fuse may have broke the connection from the shielded rca cable which ungrounds the cable picking up motor noise, white noise ,or winning
You should use an aeroport vs that port
In my 4runner I had to run a separate ground for the mids and highs amp. Previously I had the ground hooked up to my lithium batteries which had the engine noise
Try the simplest thing. You been banging and beating that Sequoia up. Check all your grounds.
Sounds and looks great bro.
Damn those 18s🔊🔊🙉 be banging how are you liking the two 18s🔊🔊 from your other builds. Looks like you can use a little 🤏 more power.😁
Ground loop isolater or ground the rcas and the head unit directly to the frame
Yes you're ground location needs to be centralized
Try running a separate ground to the chassis for your head unit if that doesn't work then I would test the rca output on it
Great build man, working on something myself!!!!!
You should do a review of the the EDP122SPL-E6 by edge subwoofers . Seems like a monster for $244
Woot woot time to see someone get blessed
Your the best Bass head on all platforms Parker 🤘🔈🔊🔈🔊🔈🔊🔈🔊🔈🔊🔈🔊🔈🔊🔈🔊🔈🔊 congrats on all your subscribers we appreciate all your content and time 👏
I like your video series, just visited your FB page.watching video now
I appreciate it!!
That is an awesome looking box!! May I know more?? What are your dimensions and what is it tuned to?
I have a Sundown x15 and I'm getting ready to buy two x18s!!
Nice score!
What? Your sponsors can't spare a couple 18s? That sucks. Your channel is a must watch for the basshead community. They should be more supportive. Not like any of us can afford them either but that doesn't mean that we don't want to see you get to. ✊🤘👍
Let's go that holds power and gets loud
I'm doing 150.3 at 36hz on two X10v2s on two sk4500s strapped at .5ohm.
seems to be ground loop isolation your hearing onthe highs amp. try making your short as possible with good connection no paintt under
Good job parker. Sounds good.
2 18s for a daily sounds AMAZING
its the head unit it has a shotty ground could be inside the radio its self or the ground 12v line maybe shotty run a frame ground to the radio it may fix it if the radio has a shotty ground
Its the generaters That makes the screaming sound
WOW amazing Parker simply amazing great video as always OMG
Thank you!!
I've seen a single 15 xxx hit that with a jbl 1200.1. Seems like it should hit harder than that.
I think single 18 in the right air Space will still be as loud if not a bit more
Ok
Love all your builds
Try different hz tones. Sometimes the peek the meter gives u isn’t quite right. U might have got a higher reading with a different test tone. But still awesome. Keep up the good work…