Thank you , your video's are very educational and sharing your knowledge shows that your a master trademen passing on your skills , cheers Roy Wildlife Canvas Australia
I looked back to see if you mentioned what size thread your working with here and I didn’t see a size. Does anyone know what the size of the tread and needle that he’s using? I really learn so much out of these videos, what a great teacher!
Amy, Most of the time on thick leather I use a 200 needle and white polyester thread then sometimes on thinner leather I use a 180 needle and 207 thread in any choice of color. Thanks for asking!
Bruce , Can you clarify that you are using thicker needle ( 200 ) for the same thread on thicker leather because friction increases and that could cause thread breaking ?? Thank you
Bruce Great job on the skirting. I would like to get a machine like yours but can't afford it. I have been looking for a used one. It seems that they are hard to find too. No one wants to give them up once they get them. If you know of one drop me a line on it. Keep up the videos very inspirering.
Hi Bruce I'm a big fan of you and your videos. I was hoping to know about the total thickness of the pieces you were sewing? And how many layers are they? Oh and were they glued ?
Is there a reason why you don't use the sewing table top/attachment? Maybe for less flat projects than this? I'm wondering if I am hindering myself by using mine?
+Chris Wagoner I have an older clip showing how to fit the skirts in a roping saddle. You can see where I formed the skirts around the bars of the saddle tree. You can easily make two patterns for each side that are 2" larger than the saddle skirts and go nearly to the bars and feather edge or shave them so they are smooth on the bottom side. Glue your skirt fillers inn and leave the excess sticking out until you sew your sheep skin in and then trim off the fillers and sheepskin. Bruce RUclips video clip on fitting skirts ruclips.net/video/NZrth-wI-5s/видео.html
Ok thank you I wasn't sure if needed to put additional full piece skirt on too where the filler material was sandwich between the two pieces I'm working on my first saddle I have been watching your videos on saddle making and spur making and have learned a bunch
Hi Bruce Great work! Very nice. I have the same machine My question to you is regarding thread tension. Do you set it really high when sewing tack? Thanks Don
This machine pulls the thread very even and I very rarely even adjust the tension and it has always had a tight stitch. I sew single ply up to three layers with the same tension setting taht's what I like about my machine Thanks for asking!
Hey Bruce, are you and your family doing ok down in Texas? I hope so. I recently had a request for a fly fishing wallet. I’ll need to stitch some sheep shearling onto the inside. When I’m using the CB4500 with the shearling on the bottom, do I need to worry about it getting caught up in the throat plate? I’ve never done this before. If there is anything else I need to watch out for, let me know. Thank you!
Hi Bruce. First of all, thank you so much for the very helpful videos you have posted about your awesome work and talent. Concerning the Cowboy sewing Machines, I am planning on purchasing one for myself, and I was wondering if the CB-4500 is essential for saddle and holster work versus the CB-3200, or CB-3500, which have shorter throat depth and 5/8 thickness limitations? Again, thank you. I am a great admirer of your work.
+Bruce Cheaney I decided on the 4500 like yours. I am in the process of experimenting and trying to learn the sewing thing.. Looks like I need lots of practice. the machine seems to work awesome. thanks for your advice.
Great job with the videos Bruce. I have the same machine stitching thick leather for the first time , 7/8"and I'm getting substantial needle deflection. When stitching thick leather should I be reducing thread tension top and bottom? Thanks. Kevin.
Hello thank you for the video could you tell me if you have used the Ferdco Pro 2000?. We have a Ferdco Pro 2000 I was looking thru the manual it came with it is really poorly written. I was hoping to find a a threading and sewing tutorial on line but fortunately there aren't any.
Hello Mary I can not say about the machine he is using. I have a Artison Toro 3000 it looks like the same machine my arm is 9" long it will sew 7/8 thick the motor is a Servo ESM-400 it dose not make that sound hope this helps. Fishhog
Lindsay Ross, I have seen you comment on other leatherworkers videos about the needle and awl machine, you referred to one gentleman's work as "rubbish". I am going to venture to say you know nothing about the leatherwork craft, nor very much about the old Landis and Union needle and awl machines. Those machines are wonderful, they make beautiful stitches, the thing is, they are no longer in production. Finding and maintaining one is VERY expensive. They are big, loud and in most cases just not practical. The newer Juki 441 clones or Adler clones are perfect for their intended jobs, they make a beautiful stitch and 90% of us who ACTUALLY work in this field and produce any volume of work, use these machines. No need to belittle anyone's work or act like you are an expert on the subject... it is irritating, your comment on the gentleman's page who made a cartridge belt slide really irked me, then I see you commenting here once more about a machine and field you know nothing about... get a life.
Lindsay Ross Hi. I think this got lost in translation somehow. I didnt mean to offend or criticize anyones craft. And "rubbish" referred to the stitch that Needle machines make. I was referring to the on going advertising about the Needle Feed Machines and also defending my soul against the ( what i took as abrupt personally aimed comment about my age........ which had nothing to do with the machines we were discussing) comment. The concern I had is that the needle feed machines just dont have the stitch p[attern the N/A machines do. making a hole with the thread attached and then dragging the bobinn thread up throught that hole means that you would need a needle of substance to be able to make a hole big enough to have all that happen. The needle awls dont do it that way and thats why the pattern is so much better. A very small hole which makes for a tight stitch without wet moulding needed. I think you are up the wrong tree here mate. Dont always judge what you are unsure of otherwise you could end up looking wrong! I have been doing this "professionally" since 1976 and have 3 Cambells and 3 Union Lockstitchers ( one from the Amish saddle makers and 2 from Randall when they were in NYC.) The Campbells all came from CBMC when they were in Fort lauderdale. I had a Ferdco Bull which I eventually gave away through frustration.The factory just couldnt get it right and changing the bobinn so often was not on. So at 65 and having had as much experience in this field as I can imagine ( learning how to retime Unions etc) I would say that your comments fall short. I know all about these through experience. No other stitchers will do that job. I have a life mate!
The Juki 441 and Adler machines aren't needle fed but are triple compound feed walking foot machines. I agree with you in that the old Randals, Landis and Unions make a beautiful stitch. But buying parts for them is next to impossible and unless you have a mechanic with a machine shop fixing broken parts just cant be done. I love those machines but I love my Juki clone as well. You would be suprised at the differnt stitches these machines are capable of making with the right needle. Anyway, it just came off like you were insulting his work and the craft.
robert perrotta Nope. Not being in the US ( and having 11 official languages where I live :( ) and leaving it up to the reader to decipher the writings sometimes comes out seriously wrong. The last thing I would do/want would be to criticize anyone`s attempts. EVER. In the late sixties I would have been put off if someone had made other than tolerant remarks about what I was doing. I apologies profusely to the gent if it caused any badness as I was CERTAINLY referring to the stitch pattern and NOT the actual work at all. Sorry mate. We love you :) I referred to the NEEDLE FEED not as to how the work is fed through but the fact that the Needle With the thread is what creates the hole for the stitching to pass through to make the lock. I didnt say it right I guess. I understand the compound feed as I had the Ferdco and the Adler before as well. As far as prts go having had these for some 40 odd years I really haven`t found any problems with replacement parts from NYC or Youkam ( where CBMC is now situated) They have been able to help in all instances. Hope this irons out the creases somewhat. Im sorry for the input that came out bad on the other end of the line. I am always eager to speak with stitchers around the globe as I spent so much of my youth trying to find an answer. Take care. Lindsay
Either the Cobra or the Cowboy. Here is a review and contact information for these machines plus a few others. leathercraftmax.com/leather-sewing-machine-reviews/
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A beautiful machine made to look all that more magnificent by the operator. Thank you for the video.
That is really beautiful craftsmanship!
Thank You!
i could come here everyday and watch you work like it was an informative tv show. thanks so much for sharing
You are a true Master Craftsman! Great Video, tku for sharing your God given talent
Thank you for you talent MR
Thank You!
The saddle is awesome
Hi Bruce I love the fact you wear the hat when doing this :-)
Thank you , your video's are very educational and sharing your knowledge shows that your a master trademen passing on your skills , cheers Roy Wildlife Canvas Australia
Thank You for taking your time to watch my RUclips videos.
Wow! That motor screaming at me all day would make me want to play in traffic! 😫
Kind of used to it now. Have a new motor in the box....
Great work Bruce, I really like that sewing machine. Be blessed.
I looked back to see if you mentioned what size thread your working with here and I didn’t see a size.
Does anyone know what the size of the tread and needle that he’s using? I really learn so much out of these videos, what a great teacher!
Amy, Most of the time on thick leather I use a 200 needle and white polyester thread then sometimes on thinner leather I use a 180 needle and 207 thread in any choice of color. Thanks for asking!
Bruce , Can you clarify that you are using thicker needle ( 200 ) for the same thread on thicker leather because friction increases and that could cause thread breaking ?? Thank you
Nice camera work, Bruce.
You are a true expert.
Thank you for watching!
Bruce Great job on the skirting. I would like to get a machine like yours but can't afford it. I have been looking for a used one. It seems that they are hard to find too. No one wants to give them up once they get them. If you know of one drop me a line on it. Keep up the videos very inspirering.
Hi Bruce I'm a big fan of you and your videos. I was hoping to know about the total thickness of the pieces you were sewing? And how many layers are they? Oh and were they glued ?
Hi Bruce, Great work and great videos. Do you teach saddle making or recommend where one could go to learn this lost art?
Bruce, do you think this one sews as good or equal as a needle and awl machine? Nice work on the skirts.
So inspiring :)
thanks 😁
Is there a reason why you don't use the sewing table top/attachment? Maybe for less flat projects than this? I'm wondering if I am hindering myself by using mine?
do you have a video on putting the filler material in on the skirt too
+Chris Wagoner I have an older clip showing how to fit the skirts in a roping saddle. You can see where I formed the skirts around the bars of the saddle tree. You can easily make two patterns for each side that are 2" larger than the saddle skirts and go nearly to the bars and feather edge or shave them so they are smooth on the bottom side. Glue your skirt fillers inn and leave the excess sticking out until you sew your sheep skin in and then trim off the fillers and sheepskin. Bruce RUclips video clip on fitting skirts ruclips.net/video/NZrth-wI-5s/видео.html
Ok thank you I wasn't sure if needed to put additional full piece skirt on too where the filler material was sandwich between the two pieces I'm working on my first saddle I have been watching your videos on saddle making and spur making and have learned a bunch
Hi Bruce
Great work! Very nice.
I have the same machine
My question to you is regarding thread tension. Do you set it really high when sewing tack?
Thanks
Don
This machine pulls the thread very even and I very rarely even adjust the tension and it has always had a tight stitch. I sew single ply up to three layers with the same tension setting taht's what I like about my machine Thanks for asking!
Saludos👍👍👍
Thanks!
Hey Bruce, are you and your family doing ok down in Texas? I hope so.
I recently had a request for a fly fishing wallet. I’ll need to stitch some sheep shearling onto the inside. When I’m using the CB4500 with the shearling on the bottom, do I need to worry about it getting caught up in the throat plate? I’ve never done this before. If there is anything else I need to watch out for, let me know. Thank you!
You should not have any problem sewing the piece. You might try a mock up piece for practice before you sew the real thing.
Love your work. What size thread do you use in your machine?
tHANKS bRUCE! pAZ
Hi Bruce. First of all, thank you so much for the very helpful videos you have posted about your awesome work and talent. Concerning the Cowboy sewing Machines, I am planning on purchasing one for myself, and I was wondering if the CB-4500 is essential for saddle and holster work versus the CB-3200, or CB-3500, which have shorter throat depth and 5/8 thickness limitations? Again, thank you. I am a great admirer of your work.
+Darrel Wilson The Cowboy CB-3200 will do the job just fine and save you some $
+Bruce Cheaney I really do like mine though...
+Bruce Cheaney I decided on the 4500 like yours. I am in the process of experimenting and trying to learn the sewing thing.. Looks like I need lots of practice. the machine seems to work awesome. thanks for your advice.
hello, could you please tell me about the machine you used, the model and make!
and could you please let me know what type of machine I wud use if I had to stitch leather to a thick rope for a dog leash
Great job with the videos Bruce.
I have the same machine stitching thick leather for the first time , 7/8"and I'm getting substantial needle deflection.
When stitching thick leather should I be reducing thread tension top and bottom?
Thanks.
Kevin.
+Kevin Watson On something that thick you must take a stitch at a time very slowly. I use a 230 size needle but you might also try a 250.
+Bruce Cheaney Ok, I'll try that, thanks for taking the time to respond Bruce .
Hello thank you for the video could you tell me if you have used the Ferdco Pro 2000?. We have a Ferdco Pro 2000 I was looking thru the manual it came with it is really poorly written. I was hoping to find a a threading and sewing tutorial on line but fortunately there aren't any.
I have not sewn on the Pro 2000 I am sure they would try to help you at Ferdco.
Ferdco sold out
Master! :) What`s the max stitch lenght of your sewing machine, sir?
Ciobanu George 1/4" to 3/8"
Thank you! You have such a nice sewing machine but..your skills are just..WOW!
Stupenda sella mi puoi inviare un indirizzo x acquistare? Ciao grazie
Thank You!
wow
Do all the cowboys make the whining sound? I assume that's motor noise?
I really do not know about that. I guess I just got used to mine a do not even notice that whining sound.
Lol okay thanks!
As long as it works!
:)
Hello Mary I can not say about the machine he is using.
I have a Artison Toro 3000 it looks like the same machine my arm is 9" long it will sew 7/8 thick the motor is a Servo ESM-400 it dose not make that sound hope this helps.
Fishhog
Mr Bruca can i know what thread r u using?
Kenneth Halianto White 346 polyester I get it from Weaver Leather. Bruce
Thankyou for the info sir.
Hi Bruce, how much cost in this machine
Check with Toledo Industrial Sewing Machines www.tolindsewmach.com/
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Their address is located on the contact page of their website.
What kind of thread do you use?
Polyester white size 346 and 200 or 230 Schmetz sewing machine needles.
Thank you
Why so few comments about the ONLY machines that really make sense of this kind of work?. The Needle Awl machines ? :)
Lindsay Ross, I have seen you comment on other leatherworkers videos about the needle and awl machine, you referred to one gentleman's work as "rubbish". I am going to venture to say you know nothing about the leatherwork craft, nor very much about the old Landis and Union needle and awl machines. Those machines are wonderful, they make beautiful stitches, the thing is, they are no longer in production. Finding and maintaining one is VERY expensive. They are big, loud and in most cases just not practical. The newer Juki 441 clones or Adler clones are perfect for their intended jobs, they make a beautiful stitch and 90% of us who ACTUALLY work in this field and produce any volume of work, use these machines. No need to belittle anyone's work or act like you are an expert on the subject... it is irritating, your comment on the gentleman's page who made a cartridge belt slide really irked me, then I see you commenting here once more about a machine and field you know nothing about... get a life.
robert perrotta
Lindsay Ross Hi. I think this got lost in translation somehow. I didnt mean to offend or criticize anyones craft. And "rubbish" referred to the stitch that Needle machines make. I was referring to the on going advertising about the Needle Feed Machines and also defending my soul against the ( what i took as abrupt personally aimed comment about my age........ which had nothing to do with the machines we were discussing) comment. The concern I had is that the needle feed machines just dont have the stitch p[attern the N/A machines do. making a hole with the thread attached and then dragging the bobinn thread up throught that hole means that you would need a needle of substance to be able to make a hole big enough to have all that happen. The needle awls dont do it that way and thats why the pattern is so much better. A very small hole which makes for a tight stitch without wet moulding needed. I think you are up the wrong tree here mate. Dont always judge what you are unsure of otherwise you could end up looking wrong! I have been doing this "professionally" since 1976 and have 3 Cambells and 3 Union Lockstitchers ( one from the Amish saddle makers and 2 from Randall when they were in NYC.) The Campbells all came from CBMC when they were in Fort lauderdale. I had a Ferdco Bull which I eventually gave away through frustration.The factory just couldnt get it right and changing the bobinn so often was not on. So at 65 and having had as much experience in this field as I can imagine ( learning how to retime Unions etc) I would say that your comments fall short. I know all about these through experience. No other stitchers will do that job. I have a life mate!
The Juki 441 and Adler machines aren't needle fed but are triple compound feed walking foot machines. I agree with you in that the old Randals, Landis and Unions make a beautiful stitch. But buying parts for them is next to impossible and unless you have a mechanic with a machine shop fixing broken parts just cant be done. I love those machines but I love my Juki clone as well. You would be suprised at the differnt stitches these machines are capable of making with the right needle. Anyway, it just came off like you were insulting his work and the craft.
robert perrotta Nope. Not being in the US ( and having 11 official languages where I live :( ) and leaving it up to the reader to decipher the writings sometimes comes out seriously wrong. The last thing I would do/want would be to criticize anyone`s attempts. EVER. In the late sixties I would have been put off if someone had made other than tolerant remarks about what I was doing. I apologies profusely to the gent if it caused any badness as I was CERTAINLY referring to the stitch pattern and NOT the actual work at all. Sorry mate. We love you :) I referred to the NEEDLE FEED not as to how the work is fed through but the fact that the Needle With the thread is what creates the hole for the stitching to pass through to make the lock. I didnt say it right I guess. I understand the compound feed as I had the Ferdco and the Adler before as well. As far as prts go having had these for some 40 odd years I really haven`t found any problems with replacement parts from NYC or Youkam ( where CBMC is now situated) They have been able to help in all instances. Hope this irons out the creases somewhat. Im sorry for the input that came out bad on the other end of the line. I am always eager to speak with stitchers around the globe as I spent so much of my youth trying to find an answer. Take care. Lindsay
how can I get one of those machines
+Christopher Harris Toledo Industrial Sewing Machines LTD
Ok thanks
any chance your looking for an apprentice?
Hi what is best leather sewing machine I can use for wallets and bags love your vids mate .
Either the Cobra or the Cowboy. Here is a review and contact information for these machines plus a few others. leathercraftmax.com/leather-sewing-machine-reviews/
what kind of machine is that ? please
Cowboy CB-4500