It does sound pretty good.Can you imagine working with that for hours as a Chainsaw?It would be Loud.Even with that exhaust it's throaty and must have allot of torque after mid range.Can't wait for more.Thanks for the heads-up,and video.
I'm very excited to see how this turns out I want one but I'm waiting to get a one that won't blow up lol and thanks for doing a video your older videos helped me alot starting out glad to see you're still at it 👊
Just ordered this kit. Had buyers excitement (still have it) walked to Walmart and bought a big framed cruiser, heavy-duty chain bike lock, chain lube/cleaner, and tire patches/co2 container/on the go bike kit. I've been wanting to get a bike kit for years, I found a gallon gasoline container a month ago and decided it's time. I'm so excited!!!!!!
This video makes me wanna forget about the two trike-builds I'm currently doing, and start building the Phantom85 kit I bought from you a couple months ago, btw, thanks again for the fast shipping on it, and all the other quality parts I've gotten from your site Alex,😁👍, awesome video, and thanks for sharing.
Man your lucky your engine is still running. Good job! Both my version 1 and version 2 both had ring snag problems that's blew my engine. I just put a ms380 stilh chainsaw cylinders on it. The bottom end works great. The other one just seized up. Again very good work guys.
Glad to see you back in action. Break that Lill sucker in and please give us updates. I can' t be the only one hoping on the 3rd time's a charm thing.... but I might be , given the horrible history on these motors . Do you think if some reinforced welding on a Cranbrook frame would suffice for a long term mounting of one of these or do you think it needs an actual motorized bike frame? Thanks for another great informative video and hoping for more content soon. Ride safe
Thanks for watching! 👍🏽 So far this engine has very little vibration at all. I would be worried about the rear wheel holding up to the power more than the frame. It does need a chopper style fork or cnc mount or exhaust modification to fit a Cranbrook.
First time I gave you a watch. RUclips studio recommended you. There is a first! 😂 you got a sub out of me. Next time I’m in the market. This motor is what I’ll get! Good work Alex
I'll give you guys tons of videos this year! If you keep watching i'll keep being crazy. I have an automotive channel coming your way also!! 😮 Thanks for watching! 👍🏽
Glad your posting, keep it up brother. What state are you in brother cause I feel like your kinda close to me. Maybe catch a ride some day. Nvm you just said Illinois lol. Just had to keep watching. But I’d still love to take a week and ride out that way….. hmmm never know right.
They need to make high performance parts for these. Mine should be here in a few days and I can't wait until I get it broke in. It's still cold here so you can't ride very long before you're freezing
My phantom v3 should arrive this Thursday. I hope everything runs as it should. My phantom v2 only lasted less than 50 miles, before snagging a ring and trashing the piston and cylinder.
you know i have always said this engine would be a awesome engine once they fix all the mistakes . now i have noticed that this new one has the same ringing noise as all of them . i dont know what it is but it sounds like a metal rattle noise . might not even be from the motor but its there . not saying its a bad thing i dont know . i do know the ones people fixed on there own did well for a little bit . i hoped they fixed it cause really i feel bad for people who wasted there money on them just to have them blow up . i hope you run this one through its paces and really test it so people can see what there getting . good luck with it buddy .
Don''t worry about the rattling noise guys. It's just the standard procedure of the Rings coming off and dancing on top of the piston during the break-in period. It'll clear right up when they fire out the exhaust port. Joking aside, I am really hoping this V3 is going to hold up. Been watching videos for months now hoping they get it right.
Thanks for doing a side-by-side comparison with the old version and the V3 version because I just got my Phantom 85 V3 in the mail yesterday but the sticker that they gave me the put on the motor is only a phantom 85 sticker there is no V3 next to it like I'm yours it concern me I was getting ready to make phone calls and then I remembered seeing this video so I came back to it and sure enough you did hold up the old compared to the new and I was able to pause your video and then look in the inside of my head and look at the ports and it is a V3 so for whoever buys one don't worry the sticker only says 85 with no V3 after it they won't sell their old version to you just to get rid of them
Hey man! Love the video brotha, I just got my Phantom 85 today and upon assembly the rings are actually fairly easy for me to install, My main issue is the studs seems to be extremely stiff because getting the jug/cylinder to go down is a little difficult but it goes down up until the bottom where it feels like it gets stuck frozen in its track about half an inch to the bottom before being fully seated. I can move the piston up and down still while its cracked open slightly and its not snagged on anything and moves up and down as it should. I don't want to break the rings and i've already tried gently tapping the cylinder down to seat all the way but still nothing. What should I do?
@@danajett ikr lol. If you aren't comfy with doing the work yourself then yeah pay someone but I managed to get it to fit by shaving the threads on the studs all the way at the bottom because they aren't required, only top threads are required to torque the cylinder down. Once you shave those threads down if the cylinder didn't fit originally then it will fit now. I've ridden this engine kit every day to work since that comment and its been reliable. Although i have extensive mods on it and a real two stroke husky 85cc pipe so i push 80mph on it haha. These engines are easy to work on but always dumb issues to keep going on the road
What oil do you use for this engine? I can’t seem to find what’s mentioned in the instructions as “Valvoline Two Stroke Racing Oil,” is this the same as Valvoline multi purpose oil for two stroke engines? I also already have Lucus’s semi-synthetic 2-Cycle oil, is it safe to use?
Yes, run at 20 parts of gas to one of oil, as mentioned in the Vid. If you’re mixing fuel by the tankful, figure 1.5 ounces per quart, or three ounces of oil per 2 liter tank. These *Chin-Lee Engines* need all the oil-help they can get, so I’d go even heavier on oil for the first few tanks, like four ounces per tank, and adjust the carb so the engine is on the verge of blubbering at steady throttle.
Sounds awesome I wish they'd make a expansion chamber pipe for them I have a version 2 but I changed a few things and the one other the lower case ports are different from the phantom and the yd100 and I changed mine to a stihl 52mm 044ms440 piston with 12mm pin bearing runs great I think seeings they new that some of them ring snag I think if anyone still has the version 2 and still running should be able to exchange the cylinder for version 3 I used to race RC nitro trucks and cars and traxxas was like that all you had to pay for was shipping ride safe brother
I emailed them asking if it would fit my bike and sent them my Schwinn Bike specs, they said yes, before I bought it. A month later when I tried to install it, it did not fit and now I can not return it because of their policy.
Ciao tempo fa ho acquistato un motore simile ma i prigionieri alla base del cilindro non hanno avuto una lunga tenuta. Puoi consigliarmi qualche motore ottimo ?
Great question! I have not personally but I sell the header that Kaos makes so you can weld up your own pipe. motoredlife.myshopify.com/products/phantom-85-exhaust-header-for-custom-pipes?ToPasteBoard& Thanks for watching! 👍🏽
@@Matthew-wj8cmahhh ok thx! I just got mine on yesterday, we had to beat the muffler a bit to fit it on lol. the little monster is crazy, the revs just keep going higher with no limit on flats! I just wish it had more than one gear lol.
I have a cheap 100cc it's no name but I learned it's a chd 110 well I bought 2 first cracked can second just will not zeal up so no power band andwillnotcrank at low speed like plug dose not fire till high rpm what is going on 2:28
I also have a version 2 have built 3-4 of them now. I love the power of the phantom and the sound too. My customers love them too. Have had no issues so far. Have had top speeds of 75kph. How do you think they would go on 29inch wheels 🤔
Don't know if you tried the iron horse internal cdi . I don't run mine as hard as you . Fastest this bike has seen is 20 in its first 100 miles ran great till it didn't. Cdi magnito system failure .
When you can show it's as good as when you put it on the bike s few months later I might be impressed as the others didn't really go passed ninety days it goes passed that then okay
@@MotoredLife When you swap them out get yourself a copper gasket and replace that to. You can pre anneal them on a glass top stove so that once you install them you can torque the head down right away without having to go through the thermal cycling before doing it!
@@MotoredLifeI found someone who knows about this motor his name is Keegan hache he have a RUclips channel like you . This motor is a reed case motor he explained everything to me and my friends in NY. If you need any more info you can reach out for him. Thanks for trying.
Hey love your videos buddy I have a question what is wheel set that comes with sprocket that I can buy I would appreciate it if you can get back to my question please
Nice to see you back man I love all of your bike videos. Don’t give up you have a really good energy
Oh there's no giving up! Just winter here lol
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It does sound pretty good.Can you imagine working with that for hours as a Chainsaw?It would be Loud.Even with that exhaust it's throaty and must have allot of torque after mid range.Can't wait for more.Thanks for the heads-up,and video.
I think its sounds like an oversized popcorn machine they need reduce ID on the exit side of the muffler.
I was only about half throttle. Imagine all day at wide open! 😵
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I'm very excited to see how this turns out I want one but I'm waiting to get a one that won't blow up lol and thanks for doing a video your older videos helped me alot starting out glad to see you're still at it 👊
I’m getting this next month and will be super excited to use this and start making videos about this motor on my channel
So glad, I was talked out of getting one a while back and settled for a 80cc but it's gotta come off now because phantom here I come! Hell yeah 👍
I could of got 2 yd100 kits for the price I paid bikeberry for my bt100 that needs a cooling off break every 10 minutes.
@@dustinh4175 it's been chopped topped and machined head installed.
Yo Alex! Great video, love the review and your energy! Haha make me want to buy a phantom 85 v3 and built it RIGHT NOW! RIGHT NOW! lol
Just ordered this kit. Had buyers excitement (still have it) walked to Walmart and bought a big framed cruiser, heavy-duty chain bike lock, chain lube/cleaner, and tire patches/co2 container/on the go bike kit. I've been wanting to get a bike kit for years, I found a gallon gasoline container a month ago and decided it's time. I'm so excited!!!!!!
I'm contemplating getting the same engine kit, do you have any regrets?
This video makes me wanna forget about the two trike-builds I'm currently doing, and start building the Phantom85 kit I bought from you a couple months ago, btw, thanks again for the fast shipping on it, and all the other quality parts I've gotten from your site Alex,😁👍, awesome video, and thanks for sharing.
That V3 sure looks nice on the inside. I got a V2 still going. Top speed around 40, stock parts. Thanks for the review Alex.
I'm very happy to hear yours is still running!
Thanks so much for watching. 👍🏽
Man your lucky your engine is still running. Good job! Both my version 1 and version 2 both had ring snag problems that's blew my engine. I just put a ms380 stilh chainsaw cylinders on it. The bottom end works great. The other one just seized up. Again very good work guys.
What sprocket are you running?
I'm using a 40 tooth
@@mikedraper453you put a ms380 on the phantom crank? Run about to same?
Version 3 looks like it's the real deal going to have to place my order now, thanks for the updated new info bro🇺🇸☮️!
don’t waste your money. build a real saw engine
I'll keep you posted on how its doing! for sure the best kit you can get without going full custom
Thanks for watching! 👍🏽
I love the sound of those engines.
like this video and your honesty about the old version of this motor .
No problem!
I love this motor just want it to work.
Thanks for watching! 👍🏽
Glad to see you back in action. Break that Lill sucker in and please give us updates. I can' t be the only one hoping on the 3rd time's a charm thing.... but I might be , given the horrible history on these motors . Do you think if some reinforced welding on a Cranbrook frame would suffice for a long term mounting of one of these or do you think it needs an actual motorized bike frame? Thanks for another great informative video and hoping for more content soon. Ride safe
Thanks for watching! 👍🏽
So far this engine has very little vibration at all. I would be worried about the rear wheel holding up to the power more than the frame. It does need a chopper style fork or cnc mount or exhaust modification to fit a Cranbrook.
Great vid Sir, loved the engine and your style, thank you
First time I gave you a watch. RUclips studio recommended you. There is a first! 😂 you got a sub out of me. Next time I’m in the market. This motor is what I’ll get!
Good work Alex
Hell yeah good to see you back bro
I need to post more so you guys dont think I got hit by another car!
Thanks for watching! 👍🏽
Ha ha lol right n your welcome bro keep up the good videos
Thank you Alex! Any suggestions where to get V.3? Great video as always, and good to see you again brother!
www.bicycle-engines.com/ztmoto-phantom-85-v3-complete-52mm-bore-2-stroke-motorized-bicycle-engine-kit-true-85cc-bike-motor/?gclid=CjwKCAiArNOeBhAHEiwAze_nKO4SIZ9JQ4F2w7CvL_ariUsra3n4Z4RRbEdES4f96b_IgLzF-dngMRoC8rQQAvD_BwE
Very happy to see you back Alex. Love the video :D
I'll give you guys tons of videos this year!
If you keep watching i'll keep being crazy. I have an automotive channel coming your way also!! 😮
Thanks for watching! 👍🏽
Glad your posting, keep it up brother. What state are you in brother cause I feel like your kinda close to me. Maybe catch a ride some day.
Nvm you just said Illinois lol. Just had to keep watching. But I’d still love to take a week and ride out that way….. hmmm never know right.
I'll be sharing the event this year so stay tuned!
Thanks for watching! 👍🏽
Happy Easter Do you and the family How's Phantom V3 running.❤
Curious how you feel about the series 3 after a year?
They need to make high performance parts for these. Mine should be here in a few days and I can't wait until I get it broke in. It's still cold here so you can't ride very long before you're freezing
They need to figure thier *%$# out and get them running before thinking of any added performance, lets hope this gen 3 solves the issues.
Yeah a bigger reed and carb would help! Get a dirt bike pipe and your good to go.
Thanks for watching! 👍🏽
I’m interested to see how this third one last it will be a great motor once they have everything squared away
My phantom v3 should arrive this Thursday. I hope everything runs as it should. My phantom v2 only lasted less than 50 miles, before snagging a ring and trashing the piston and cylinder.
@@MotoredLife what kind of oil did you use? I know it's 20 to 1 but is there any certain brand of two stroke oil?
you know i have always said this engine would be a awesome engine once they fix all the mistakes . now i have noticed that this new one has the same ringing noise as all of them . i dont know what it is but it sounds like a metal rattle noise . might not even be from the motor but its there . not saying its a bad thing i dont know . i do know the ones people fixed on there own did well for a little bit . i hoped they fixed it cause really i feel bad for people who wasted there money on them just to have them blow up . i hope you run this one through its paces and really test it so people can see what there getting . good luck with it buddy .
Don''t worry about the rattling noise guys. It's just the standard procedure of the Rings coming off and dancing on top of the piston during the break-in period. It'll clear right up when they fire out the exhaust port. Joking aside, I am really hoping this V3 is going to hold up. Been watching videos for months now hoping they get it right.
I keep you all posted throughout the life of this one!
Thanks for watching! 👍🏽
@@MotoredLife thank you .
The one thing they needed to do when the improved the engine was make the cooling fins bigger
First !!!nice video Alex
You winn!! 👊🏽💪🏽
Thanks for watching! 👍🏽
Thanks for doing a side-by-side comparison with the old version and the V3 version because I just got my Phantom 85 V3 in the mail yesterday but the sticker that they gave me the put on the motor is only a phantom 85 sticker there is no V3 next to it like I'm yours it concern me I was getting ready to make phone calls and then I remembered seeing this video so I came back to it and sure enough you did hold up the old compared to the new and I was able to pause your video and then look in the inside of my head and look at the ports and it is a V3 so for whoever buys one don't worry the sticker only says 85 with no V3 after it they won't sell their old version to you just to get rid of them
They need to make these that don’t want to shake themselves apart
This one actually has very little vibrations! Way less than a regular gas engine kit.
Thanks for watching! 👍🏽
Alex hi mate !! Whats your honest opinion on This Engine!? I’m really interested on built my own project…Thanks a lot
When are we going to see an update on the new motor?
how's this motor doing now that its been a year? Running and reliable still?
Fr how’s it holding up
Great content Top tier
I'll keep it rolling your way!
Thanks for watching! 👍🏽
Hey Alex how’s that new fan and 85 V3 doing have you had any issues
Nice I'm going to buy one to just ride around this summer to go fishing and swimming in see how long it will last it looks good
Hey man! Love the video brotha, I just got my Phantom 85 today and upon assembly the rings are actually fairly easy for me to install, My main issue is the studs seems to be extremely stiff because getting the jug/cylinder to go down is a little difficult but it goes down up until the bottom where it feels like it gets stuck frozen in its track about half an inch to the bottom before being fully seated. I can move the piston up and down still while its cracked open slightly and its not snagged on anything and moves up and down as it should. I don't want to break the rings and i've already tried gently tapping the cylinder down to seat all the way but still nothing. What should I do?
Funny how he never responded, and mines just came today. Maybe I should pay someone who knows what they're doing seems a little hard what you think ?
@@danajett ikr lol. If you aren't comfy with doing the work yourself then yeah pay someone but I managed to get it to fit by shaving the threads on the studs all the way at the bottom because they aren't required, only top threads are required to torque the cylinder down. Once you shave those threads down if the cylinder didn't fit originally then it will fit now. I've ridden this engine kit every day to work since that comment and its been reliable. Although i have extensive mods on it and a real two stroke husky 85cc pipe so i push 80mph on it haha. These engines are easy to work on but always dumb issues to keep going on the road
What oil do you use for this engine? I can’t seem to find what’s mentioned in the instructions as “Valvoline Two Stroke Racing Oil,” is this the same as Valvoline multi purpose oil for two stroke engines? I also already have Lucus’s semi-synthetic 2-Cycle oil, is it safe to use?
Yes, run at 20 parts of gas to one of oil, as mentioned in the Vid.
If you’re mixing fuel by the tankful, figure 1.5 ounces per quart, or three ounces of oil per 2 liter tank.
These *Chin-Lee Engines* need all the oil-help they can get, so I’d go even heavier on oil for the first few tanks, like four ounces per tank, and adjust the carb so the engine is on the verge of blubbering at steady throttle.
It's been 3 months. Did they fix all of the problems?
There he is . I was thinking they had you locked up in Joliet or something.
Im working on a schwinn occ stingray chopper
it seems much peppier than the earlier versions
Sounds awesome I wish they'd make a expansion chamber pipe for them I have a version 2 but I changed a few things and the one other the lower case ports are different from the phantom and the yd100 and I changed mine to a stihl 52mm 044ms440 piston with 12mm pin bearing runs great I think seeings they new that some of them ring snag I think if anyone still has the version 2 and still running should be able to exchange the cylinder for version 3 I used to race RC nitro trucks and cars and traxxas was like that all you had to pay for was shipping ride safe brother
I love the Hoard
Why no more vid on this? top end speed, how has it been ? Have you had any problems with v3?
I emailed them asking if it would fit my bike and sent them my Schwinn Bike specs, they said yes, before I bought it.
A month later when I tried to install it, it did not fit and now I can not return it because of their policy.
To get my cheapest motorcycle fix may have to get one of those
You wont be let down with the power! Can pop a wheelie real easy.
Thanks for watching! 👍🏽
Ciao tempo fa ho acquistato un motore simile ma i prigionieri alla base del cilindro non hanno avuto una lunga tenuta. Puoi consigliarmi qualche motore ottimo ?
Have you tried an expansion chamber on them ?
Great question!
I have not personally but I sell the header that Kaos makes so you can weld up your own pipe.
motoredlife.myshopify.com/products/phantom-85-exhaust-header-for-custom-pipes?ToPasteBoard&
Thanks for watching! 👍🏽
Heya! amazing video, I am soo getting one in a few days!! Do you know of any top end mods for this engine?
You don't need any. It runs fine stock. It has a stnadard 40mm spaced intake so any mb reed valves will fit. And exhaust you must weld
@@Matthew-wj8cmahhh ok thx! I just got mine on yesterday, we had to beat the muffler a bit to fit it on lol. the little monster is crazy, the revs just keep going higher with no limit on flats! I just wish it had more than one gear lol.
just ordered !
Still need a 2 piece jug for cooling
what were the the rings snagging on?if the ends of the rings were too close to the exhaust port they will automatically snag
Super cool 😎
E bikes are too expensive about to do my first build with this bad boy
No expansion chamber the biggest gains on a two stroke is the expansion chamber what are you doing?
What is your top speed? How many miles per tank?
Can you tell me what would be an ideal jet size and needle jet setting for basically sea level for this exact motor
Where can I pick one of those motors up can somebody let me know I like that one I just getting ready to put me a bike together. 👍💯🐟👋👋👋👋👋👋👋👋👋😁😁😁😁
Where can I get a better twist throttle for these engines?
I have a cheap 100cc it's no name but I learned it's a chd 110 well I bought 2 first cracked can second just will not zeal up so no power band andwillnotcrank at low speed like plug dose not fire till high rpm what is going on 2:28
Have you Porting and polishing on the exhaust valve
East motors they love the cold air
I bought my freinld louis travor 50 cc 4stroke transisson double chain got fix but faster but going down miss clutch
I also have a version 2 have built 3-4 of them now. I love the power of the phantom and the sound too. My customers love them too. Have had no issues so far.
Have had top speeds of 75kph.
How do you think they would go on 29inch wheels 🤔
Don't know if you tried the iron horse internal cdi . I don't run mine as hard as you . Fastest this bike has seen is 20 in its first 100 miles ran great till it didn't. Cdi magnito system failure .
I’ve got one coming With a 36 tooth sprocket
is the version 2 on a Cranbrook
Any word on a expansion pipe for the phantom 85??? I would buy 3engines if I could get a pipe for it. Anyone know if this is supposed to happen??
Can you please tell me the size or link the the forks on the cranbrook please!
These came from a DYNO they are 1" but do not have a disc brake tab. but these do! ebay.us/gS9eGT
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Can you reverse those heads and have the carburetor on the front and the exhaust on the back?
You can but why? Theres a reason air cooled engines have the exhaust facing the headwind...
Yes you can with some work! I have one but it runs very very hot
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Motul 710 2t 💪💪. Gas oil. 1:40 🤙
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Thinking about getting this one is this one better
where can i get this engine from ?
Top speed?
I’ve haven’t had any problems with my phantom 85 I’ve had it since October of 2022 all I did is replace the piston rings.
That's great! I know of some that have 1000 miles on them. Not mine sadly lol
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Will this fit on a phatmoto?
When you can show it's as good as when you put it on the bike s few months later I might be impressed as the others didn't really go passed ninety days it goes passed that then okay
Shes fast
Do you ship to canada
Where can I get them forks at
Ditch those acorn nuts right off the bat. Use regular nuts with a Bellville washer under each!
I will have to switch!
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@@MotoredLife When you swap them out get yourself a copper gasket and replace that to. You can pre anneal them on a glass top stove so that once you install them you can torque the head down right away without having to go through the thermal cycling before doing it!
@@bigcconservativeguy2534a copper base gasket?
49cc 4 stroke need transisson with double chain best ehault muffer
What is the MPG of this?
Where can I get the version 3 phantom 85?
motoredlife.myshopify.com/cart/40154258604145:1?channel=buy_button
or you can buy them from Bicycle-engines.com!
Is there a manual in the box?
Yep!
Well have truble clutch bad belt break asost bolts so i need change transisson chain clutch bas with spring clutch 3 spring clutchn
Should i greese the needle bearing?
Put some oil on it yeah
You don't need to run a Reed vaule.Replace the piston with out a window and run a larger carborater. RUN MUCH SMOOTHER.
What is the dimensions of space needed to fit the version 3
The same as the rest of the motors
You’re the guy from Facebook group 😂that said he stand on truck
??
Can this engine fit on my F zero bike ?
Yes!
Make Moore motorize video 😅
How can i gat it
Then building bikes for about 12 years best easiest way to burn up your clutch is to generate power from it
Hi can Anybody help me? I have this 2 stroke engine that have the intake on the crankshaft?
front or back?
@@MotoredLife hey thanks for the reply. Back .
@@MotoredLife how you doing brother? Any help with that engine with the intake on the back of the crankcase?
@@MotoredLifeI found someone who knows about this motor his name is Keegan hache he have a RUclips channel like you . This motor is a reed case motor he explained everything to me and my friends in NY. If you need any more info you can reach out for him. Thanks for trying.
💪😎🇺🇸
I want 2 buy a felt with a phantom on it can u help me with that have the cash
motoredlife.myshopify.com/products/1-gal-gas-motorized-bicycle-66cc-80cc-85cc-100cc-2-stroke?ToPasteBoard&
4occ4stroke xhaul muffer to have bolt lost pipe xhaulig need change small muffer Squal
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Wbat a out 112cc 4stroker
The biggest question I got right now is why are you using your idol to generate your speed
Hey love your videos buddy I have a question what is wheel set that comes with sprocket that I can buy I would appreciate it if you can get back to my question please