How to Make a Neon Sign LED Part 2 (feat. CNC Cut Back Panel)
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- Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024
- Here a sign maker with over 30 years of experience in the field and 12 years of experience selling and developing LED products for the signage industry explains how you can create a custom-made LED neon sign using LED Neon Flex.
You'll need the following items:
Acrylic panel (between 5mm and 10mm thick) with your design cut out using a CNC, approximately 3.5mm deep and 6mm wide.
LED Neon Flex:
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Tinning Cable:
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Adhesive:
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End caps:
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Free form neon flex:
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See Part 1 of our tutorial here • How To Make a Neon Sign
Thanks for watching!
Spectron LED Ltd
Refreshing to see a video of someone who actually knows how to do the task and who can explain it as well. So many of these videos are produced by those who are neither. Thank you sir.
Thanks for the kind feedback, Sam. We appreciate that!
I've been making LED neon signs for a few years. First time I've seen the MitreBond brand of glue...going to try it! I always leave the protective covering on the face to be sure I don't mess it up with glue. Then peel it off after completed. Very thorough video!
Hi thank you for your kind comment it is available on our website for the full specification. Yes the beauty is because there is no spray it does not get messy and you can be very accurate with it. Plus a tip is if you happen to spill a little bit of glue where it shouldn't be you can quickly use the pen to remove it before it dries.
The best video I've seen about neon signs so far... i don't think i need to watch another
Thanks for your kind feedback!!
Best video on LED neon by far. Thank you!!!
Thanks, Katy!!
I love how seamless the individual pieces become!
My mind is "Open" now, thank you 👍
Glad to hear that!
This is an EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT Tutorial!
Thank You sir for providing these instructions.
nice
I'm glad I found your video and channel. Looking for instructions to do these signs myself to hang from inside my shop behind clear glass windows. Cheers!
Thank you! Glad it's been helpful 😄
this was so straight forward and easy to follow. Thank you!!
I have joined your channel as the video was very good, I would love to make a sign for my grandson, but don't have the tools to make the plastic backing so can you show how that is cut out please, Thanks Bob in the UK
Hi Bob, thanks for the follow. Sorry, we outsource our CNC cutting so there are no plans for us to release a tutorial on this just yet.
Thank God for a detailed explanation! This was awesome. Not just some fast moving video with crappy music! I’ve subscribed!
Thanks for the nice feedback!
Great , thanks , because of you , it will be endless night without sleepeing :-)
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IMPRESSIVE, most helpful tutorial. Thank you!
Thank you for great tutorial!
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you sooo much.This was exactly what i was looking for and your way to explain things are very clear.
Thanks for the feedback, Ralf! Good luck with your projects.
i love this stuff, i have been using it got my RGB addressable strips to create heaps of lighting designs, running on a madrix server, triggered from my lighting console
Great tutorial! Thank you for sharing. However, I am having a hard time finding the thin jumper wires. Could you tell me where to find them in the US, or what I should be searching for?
Thank you so much for the demo❤
Excellent!
You can upload a video tutorial with the acrylic channel perforated with the cnc or laser technique so we don’t have to use the glue please?
Yes, this tutorial is using a CNC cut channel! Hope it helps
Very Nicely Made 😍😍👍👍
Explained Perfectly 🙏🙏
Love from India
Nice work, thanks.
Excellent Work & Thank you for sharing
Who is the manufacturer of this 'Free Form LED Neon' that you are using? I like that it stays to the form you bend it to. Great video!
Hi! You can purchase from our website, ledsignsandlighting.co.uk. We ship worldwide!
Very well done, you provide complete and understandable info, great job, thank you 👍
Glad it was helpful!
Perfectly done
This is so helpful, thank you
Well done!
Beautiful job.
Thank you so much
Brilliant video. Thank you so much for this quality content!
Good work
This is so beautiful. subbed, liked, and definitely checking out more of your stuff
Thank you for your kind comments.
Nice tutorial
Thank you! Cheers!
@@Spectron WLCM
Great job
Love this, where can you purchase this led flex please
Thanks! You can purchase the neon and accessories on our website www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk/leds/led-neon-flex
Hello, thanks for the video and the information! I was a bit confused about this product but your summary about its history helped me 😅. Quick question, where do you buy your free form neon flex? I’m looking for it in Chinese stores (AliExpress, Temu) but i haven’t found the specific “free-form” version of it.
Hello David, you can purchase this online here www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk/leds/led-neon-flex/8mm-freeform or email us at sales@spectronled.co.uk. Thanks!
May I know the name of the font? Nice font indeed!
What are the options for NOT having a plastic base cutter/laser ? Excellent item and demonstration....
Thank you Dave. You can glue this straight onto any flat surface of any substrate. Use a jigsaw and then wet and dry should give you a nice edge finish to any shape you desire.
This is so good, thanks v much.
Thanks Sam 😄
Thanks nice and easy way👍👍👍
Thanks for liking
I love this video. The best tutorial on YT. Thank you!
Question, how do you power your signs? I don't see any links to power bricks
Thanks for the positive feedback! We use desktop drivers (such as www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk/48W-plug-in-power-supply-12V) or internal drivers (www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk/internal-12v-60w) to power our signs. You would have to check whether these are suitable for use in your country :)
@@Spectron thanks for the fast response. Unfortunately it doesn't show any item when I brings me to your page. It must not be available for the US. No worries. I'll look for the 12v 5a setups in my area.
Thank you for great tutorial keep going 👏🏻
You're welcome 😊
Explications trés précises et claires. Merci pour le tuto👍
Merci.
Great video, keep it up!
Our Neon flex is designed for outdoor use as it is IP67 rated. Just make sure that any connections are fully encased in a silicone end cap with silicone gel inside to prevent any salty air or water getting near the connections.
Excelente presentación. Gracias por tanto. Un abrazo desde colombia.
Nice vid...what is the thickness of the acrylic?? And how deep was the cutpoint??
We use a 5mm thick acrylic and the cut point for the neon flex is every 10mm
@@Spectron hi...i mean how deep is the engrave on the acrylic..thanks for your response.. Appreaciate it..
@@gamerzhub08 Hi there, it's about 3.5mm deep 😊
Nice, Superb..
Thanks a lot
Very professional! Thanks for sharing
This is Genius ! I am going a ditch all my friend and never leave from my Apt , haha
Awesome! How would one go about making a sign like this weatherproof for outdoor use? Looking to make the same sign with the word “Vacancy” but would need it to be outdoor all the time.
Thanks! For external use, you need to be absolutely certain that any connection and exposed end of the neon flex has been waterproofed using waterproof end caps and silicone. We also recommend you put the sign in a Perspex box for added protection!
good work
Thank You Spectron👍
Great video. Thank you. Question though. Is there anywhere that sell the pre groved backs already made so I can just finish it up or is there someone that does this sort of thing to order?
Hi you could purchase the CNC router bit and then anyone in your local area with a CNC machine could produce the back panel for you. Spec available here www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk/accessories/tools/CNC-Cutter
Awesome" I like the way u teach thanks I seriously want too learn from u
Thanks for sending us that nice feedback! We are here to help, so reach out if you have any questions :)
Well done. I hope to have a Big job soon and I'll be in touch.
Thank you! Sounds great, look forward to hearing from you
Ottimo video potrei avere il link per comprare il neon led grazie
In terms of the cut point being 10mm apart, what is the best thing to do if the point I need to cut sits in the middle of that? Cut it shorter and have a 5mm gap either end of the length? (I may be misunderstanding it though). Similar question re trimming the bits that meet at a cross roads - can it just be cut ad-hoc or does it need to align with a cut point?
Cheers, great vid.
Good question Rich. We cut it ad hoc, so that the neon doesn't come up short at cross joins or ends. We cut into the side of the silicone tube to get access to the solder points. Once we have soldered our cable on, we then close the tube back up and glue it together. As the cut is on the side, it's not really visible when glued back together. We only recommend you do this if it's an internal sign with no chance of water ingress.
Hello, Thanks for the good video, Is there a tutorial on how to do the design on corel draw or AI and transfer this to g code of the cnc machine ?
Hi Ben thank you for your comment, Unfortunately no we do not have a tutorial on how to design but I'm pretty sure they will be lots of videos already uploaded to RUclips.
Wow, brilliant video.
I've clicked the link for the 5mm but no product showing? 🤔
Do you have another link?
Also what else do I need, neon led, end caps, mitre bond, tinning cable & power supply? Thanks
Hi MK, apologies, the link for the mini neon has now been uppated! (www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk/winged-neon-flex). And yes, the other components needed are tinning cable, power supply, end caps, mitreBond (if not using our cnc cutter), and a back panel.
@@Spectron hi thanks for that but link still not working. Saying page not found 🤔
Hi, thank you for the video. Does it matter if we use type A or type B plug for the led neon signs?
Hi, our Winged Neon Flex is 12v so any 12v driver or plug in adaptor is fine as long as the watts are matching the total watts you use per metre of neon flex. I would recommend a constant voltage driver to power any neon flex.www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk/accessories/led-drivers
beautiful sign
Excuse me, can you tell me what the font is?
Hi, thanks! We made this font in-house 😄
How deep did you made those grooves for led neon?
We used a 5mm acrylic and the channel is around 3 - 3.5mm.
Wich software do you use to carve?
Great tutorial, thanks..
Great video but where do you get the plastic and what machine do you use to cut the design
We get the acrylic from local trade suppliers and a flatbed router cuts out the plastic
Nice Job! I also would love to see how you do the cnc part. Until then would you please share which font you are using? Thx
We designed the font in house :)
@@Spectron but since you also sell the router bit are you able to show us how you make the channel and how you cut around the letters. Thank you!!! Will be buying the part from you guys.
Buen trabajo.👍. Que fuente de letra usaste ?
I missed the power consumption or voltage requirement if any. What's too much a 9 volt, 12 volt? Is a USB 5 volt enough?
When you design your grooves, is the length of the channels calculated so that the cut marks on the strip line up perfectly at the ends?
It's near enough, but not exact as you can cut the side of the neon to expose the solder pads then close it back up again
Love this font! what's it called? Subscribed!
Thanks Stefano! We created that font inhouse 😊 The whole set of the letters, caps, lowercase and numbers are available for £75 if you are interested
Great info !!! Whats kind of cleaner do you use ?
The best way to clean these plastics is with a clean microfibre cloth and water. Always use a liquid of some sort - plain water is best or if you need some soap, just a mild detergent diluted in water will also be fine.
How deep are you machining the acrylic for the channel and what thickness material do you typically start with? At the moment we do most of our signs with 3d printing but I have a large CNC router for our larger signs but have yet to use acrylic backers.
Hi we machine to a depth of 3.5mm
excellent tutorial , thanks for doing and sharing , subbed immediately .
i wish you could show up how the wiring goes from one to another more bit closer,
Where would I buy the Leds from in the US?
We ship to the US from our website www.ledsignsandlighting.co.uk/index.php?route=common/home
Nice, what is the font type, please?
Good luck bro 😍👌
Thank you so much for your insight. Your video is very well done and the sign looks amazing.
I had a couple of questions. I am planning to make a beautiful sign for Jesus as part of our Christmas decorations. You inspired that decision a few months ago when I stubbled upon this video. I have nearly all the info I need but I curious about how much larger should the acrylic be than the lettering. I imagine that will have to do somewhat with the size of the sign and I expect the letters to each be about 16 inches (40 cm) tall and the sign to be roughly 4' x 4' (122cm x 122cm) As you can imagine I want it to look great but cannot afford to make it twice. Can you give me some insight into how the width of the surrounding acrylic will impact the way it looks?
Also what steps can I take to minimize issues with the wet weather in a climate where temperatures get close to zero ( -17 Celcius)
Thank you for the kind feedback, Doug. The size of the acrylic panel is down to personal preference - you could keep it close to the neon flex if you wanted, or allow a border. If you're using clear acrylic it wont really be noticeable when the light is on. If you are drilling fixing holes, you'll need to allow room for these. Regarding your questions on minimizing issues with wet weather, we recommend you put the acrylic sign in a clear box and seal any joins, or cable entries. Given the cold temperature you will need to check the working temperature of any adhesive you are using, and consider securing the neon with wire as a failsafe. We are currently checking the working temperature for our neon to see if -17 degrees would affect it.
You should make a tutorial how to design the letters of the word
hello good job, I have question , I have cnc but how do I make letters single line
Easy way is to draw a single line in the centre of your letter style in Adobe Illustrator or similar. Thanks
how are you getting the design cut out onto the acrylic ?
I don’t know why they all never show how the acrylic sheet cutout is done.
Look cool bro
Great video can I ask the font you used for this ? Many thanks
Hi Dan, This font is something we have just drawn ourselves.
Wow, so that's how the professionals do it. Can you connect multiple pieces of neon flex in parallel? is it designed to keep the same tone, or brightness if multiple pieces of different length are connected in parallel?
Hi Adrian, yes you can but you will need to power them from both ends to ensure no fall off in colour.
@@Spectron Thanks very much for the response. That's what I was hoping to avoid :D Trying to cut my soldering in half. I have many, many joints to do.
@@adrianvanderzandt4310 Good luck with it! If you have any other questions, feel free to get in touch 😊
how does this kind of sign do outdoors? does silicone degrade in UV? I was thinking of this for a boat
I'm finding soldering and keeping the joint tidy, extremely difficult. Is there an alternative to making that electronic connection (can I just superglue it for instance?)
Use a scalpel carefully slit open the silicon skin and lift out the PCB to do the soldering, Mitre Bond it back together afterward. We also have the 2 parts system which you may find it easier to do. Hope this help.
Amazing
Thank you! Cheers!
Hello there!! what model of the machine do you use to cut the acrylic or what machine for starting do you recomend? Im new on this.Thanks!
How many amp of battery supply you use for these lamomo 12v led strip
The neon flex we use is 8 watts per metre.
I have a sign and I dont want the last letter there anymore. If I just cut the wire connected to the last letter will the rest of it still work? The power is coming from the front one. Thanks!!!
It depends on how the rest of the letters are wired up. If one letter is wired to the next in a chain then yes, cutting off the last letter should be okay and the sign should still work. For certainty though, send us a wiring diagram and we can check for you - sales@spectronled.co.uk
Can you run Led sign with batteries?
We believe it is possible, but it's not something we have tried. Let us know how you get on!
What font did you use when making your acrylic cutout?
Hi Brennan, that font is our own design.
What type of Acrylic sheet do you use? a) Cast Acrylic b) Extruded Plexiglass d) Polysterene e) Polycarbonate
Cast acrylic
What thickness is the most appropriate?
@@christopherayettey4390 5-10mm
I'm trying to find the part one video, but the one linked is just a totally different project. I need to know the CNC side :)
Hi Dan, part one is showing you how to install the LED neon flex onto a flat back panel with no routered channel. We don't have a video on CNC cutting, sorry!
@@Spectron Thank you for the reply! The thing I need to know the most is, how deep of a channel would I need for the LED neon flex to fit into? I'm looking to get RGB, and then LOTS of colors of Neon Flex, very soon. Do you work with US hobbyists? Is your lighting too expensive for hobbyist sign makers?
@@Spectron I'd actually love to talk to someone on the phone. Do you have a support/sales line i could contact someone?
@@DanPerry-t8s No problem! So it depends on the thickness of your acrylic and partly personal preference. We use a 5mm thick acrylic and the channel is 3.5mm deep. You could use a 10mm acrylic with a channel about 7mm. Basically, you want to maintain the integrity of the acrylic and see the top surface of the neon! We do sell to lots of hobbyists worldwide. The shipping to the US from UK is from £28 and the neon is £36 for 5 metres. Feel free to call us on +44161 236 8828 for more info!
what type of cnc machine do you have and how big is it? I have been looking into one just dont know what to get. any infomation will be greatly appreciated
Nice video, what program do you use to design the text or artwork that also is compatible with a CNC machine? Be interesting to also see a video on this side of things 👍🏼
Thank you we just use Adobe Illustrator for our artwork and that is easily imported into V carve.
Great job, but one question
As far as i know neon leds can be cut into 2.5cm pieces meaning that each segment should be a multiple of 2.5cm in terms of length, how can i measure that when im designing the sign? Because i cant cut the strip at middle of those 2.5cm parts so its gonna be short or excess if i don’t design the acrylic sheet grooving length
Our neon flex has cut points / solder pads every 10mm interval. You can cut the neon anywhere really, as long as you miss the actual led chip. If you cant access the solder pad, just cut the silicone tube to expose it, solder the cable, then seal the tube back up with glue.
Spectron LED thanks :))
How does each letter get its power when you did three separate power connections? How are they joined at the rear to make one final connection?
The letters are joined together and the end piece is connected to the power supply. The sign is quite small and uses less than 3m of neon flex so we can do it this way without seeing a voltage drop and inconsistencies in brightness. If the letters were larger, we would need to connect each on to the driver. You can only use about 2-3m of neon flex in one continuous run before needing to run directly to the driver. Hopefully this makes sense, but feel free to contact us for more info.
Yes that's great thank you. I did wonder if the brightness would drop off over a certain length. Brilliant, thank you for replying so promptly 👍
Where did you bought the machine to cut the acrilic??
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