What is an ORI Strut?
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- Опубликовано: 8 май 2016
- What is an ORI Strut? In this video we'll talk about what an ORI does, how it functions, and then we'll open it up and take a look inside.
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Look very well built. Can't wait to see them mounted on the Scorpion and see how well they perform.
Nitrogen is inert. Inert does not mean it doesn't expand with temperature, inert means that it doesn't react chemically with other things (like the oxygen in air does to corrode metals). Nitrogen DOES expand with temperature just like EVERY other gas. PV=nRT.
piv'nert!
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Matt you're like a straight forward Red Green show and I love it. Jeep up the great work!
Long overdue!! Almost no information on these things and I'm super interested in running them. Can't wait for the next video with the reservoir set you had in your hand ;-)
very well explained video. I'm in the process of a SAS on my tacoma running 14" ORI. will be upgrading to this fall with the remote reservoirs. thanks for the info
Very informative, great video as always Matt!
Ive been working, repairing and testing shoring cylinders and struts of various sizes for 3 years now...I understood everything these fellas were talking about. Cool!👍
Great Video, Thanks for posting. This answers my question on your other video!
Those look awesome! I'm running RIO (Reasonably Inexpensive Option) struts, myself...
Been running these for two years FRICKEN love them!
I'm getting ready to start on my suspension on my rock crawler and I'm only going to have about 3 in of up travel in the front before my Lynx slam into the chassis. Do you think they can tune them at the factory to absorb the bumps in such a short distance of up travel?
Can you tune the compression with respect to tbe position of the piston like a bypass shock?
I need a set of these for my '98 Yukon SLT 4WD!!! I've been desperate to delete the stupid torsion bar springs!!
Curious what is the length of the strut fully decompressed? Will definitely help me on setting up my shock towers.
can u do a video about the door hinge welds breaking and doors saging
humm you dont see much info about ORI but have seen some people use them on JKU builds...... Im going to start looking into this for my jku. thanks for the info BleepingJeep
Can that be used on a 96 Jeep Cherokee with a 2.5-3” lift?
NICE....I only have a 98 ZJ for everyday travel but I STILL WANT SOME ORIs!!
this looks v/slick & alot simpler set up then coilover, but no dual rate spring unless I use to of these still w/diff rate springs. Easier but no bipass system & no reserve oil.
Are they only good for dedicated off road or are they okay for a daily truck? Will they work on a 7500lbs diesel truck?
Can you tell me where I could buy a set of these for my JKU and how would I send them up I’m running 40 inch tires with 538 and I am just about finished putting the ham in it could you help me out recommend somebody thank you so much Tim
Ori for links set only? How about leaf spring SAS?
so that product is for buggy use and not for daily vehicle i.e. Ranger?
It’s a main landing gear strut off a Blackhawk Helicopter and I want 4 each of them! Now who make’s the mounting brackets to install them on a Jeep JK/JL/JT?
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Would these work for a daily driver/weekend wheeler or are they more designed for use with off-road only rigs?
+Harry Bachmann I would say Offroad only because if they lose pressure you have no suspension at all.
Are these able to be installed in a 1972 Pinzgauer 710K?
+Nelson Reyes - anything is possible
I have a 91 xj im building for mud and some crawling... with a 6.5" RC Long arm lift, how would I go about selecting the length of ORI I need? can I run it with stock mounts or do I need to build shock hoops? I would love to get rid of my shocks and coils up front
+steven taylor You would need hoops or some sturdy mounts top and bottom. the normal shock mounts aren't meant to support the weight of the entire vehicle.
Hey Matt, Ryan here just wanted to ask how do you make your videos man? I'm thinking about shooting some footage of my Zj build but I'm kind of sketched out about the products and if its alright to have the products named in the videos do I need permission from the company's to make a video of their product? Any help is appreciated. By the way my friends and I enjoy the videos man all you guys great and the crazy builds are awesome
Magics in there....
So instead of a lift kit, you can just get these?
Ok so what’s the diff between these over coilover setup?
No metal spring, nitrogen under pressure takes their place.
These are much more adjustable both ways too, compression and rebound
Can you add these into a regular Jeep 87 Wrangler YJ
+Gary King - If you can fabricate, you can do anything!
So this replaces coil spring, shock and bump stop?
Yes
And what about a ZJ?
Interesting
So this shock only has a 1" bump stop ? Even with this , you would want to run an external bump stop and limit strap so the shock does not bottom out ..... Even though it has in internal bump , how is that regulated ? can you change it so it has more room to absorb a hard impact ? Can you make that bump stop harder to push ? ......... It seems like there would not be enough of a bump stop inside the shock to stop damage from happening if you jumped the rig or came off of a hard ledge ....
+Norman Murray - the difference is that it's not free to travel up to that 1" unobstructed. The way it works is that your riding on the nitrogen, then you hit a bump and it first compressed the nitrogen, then it comes up further and the oil has to squeeze through some little holes which slows everything down even more and then that last 1" it slows down even more until it finally bottoms out. All of this is adjustable with how much nitrogen or oil you put in the system and also by how many holes you put in the top valve.
So what makes the internal bump stop on this work different then a coil over ? Even with the nitrogen charge , this strut can still bottom out damaging the part ....... Having an external bump stop just seems like it would be a better option vs risking it bottoming out by using the internal bump by it self ............. (I have Fox 14" x 2.0 coil overs on my truck , with Day-star Stinger bump stops)......... Just curious if the internal bump is enough , to stop any possible damage if you hit a bump hard enough to use it .. ............ I was told , never to allow any (air shock , air strut , coilover , or any combo of these ) bottom out (during compression or rebound ) ....... Does ORI recommend external bump stops ? I know Fox does even with the shock that has an internal one ... ................ Just trying to learn all I can , about the options available ...
+Norman Murray - Ross knows more about this than I do so maybe he'll chime in but the only way I can think to explain it is to think of it like a gas filled external bumpstop... but just built into the bottom of the strut, because thats exactly what it is. - From the website: Dual-pressurized chambers that provide for unmatched body roll stability in fast turns and on off-camber side hills. Set them to mid-stroke ride height and you can still control body roll without pushing off.Specially designed compression damping valve that rushes oil back into the main cylinder 60 percent faster3-stage, velocity-sensitive compression damping that changes your soft ride to firm compression damping as the speed of the piston shaft increases.Adjustable nitrogen gas pressures make the struts tunable, so you can choose a firm ride or loose articulation.2-inch pistonCompact design fits into tight spaces and makes many additional pieces of hardware unnecessary.Velocity-sensitive, 7-position externally adjustable rebound damping.Internal hydraulic bump stop on compression stroke.Hydraulic end-of-stroke cushioning at full extension.Cooling fins to dissipate heat and boost performance.Lightweight, high-strength construction, featuring billet 6061 aluminum, stainless, and carbon steel.Hard chrome steel cylinder and a tough 1¾-inch piston shaft.Teflon-lined spherical bearings for ½-inch and 5/8-inch mounting bolts.High-pressure 5,000-psi seals for extreme off-road use.Operating temperature range from -65° F to +285° F (-54° C to +140° C).Corrosion-resistant anodize outer coatings, ensuring years of performance.
+Norman Murray The valving in the strut controls the compression stroke slowing the strut down. When it reaches the bump stop, it cushions the last bit of travel to keep from damaging the strut. You can raise the bottom pressure to help with the big hits, but, this may make your ride on the rough stuff a little harsh. The rebound valving slows the strut down to keep it from being damaged at full droop. some guys running Rockwell's do run limit straps due to the weight of the axle.
Thanks for responding , and for the info ...
could the spring rate be made suitable for street cars?
These things are so narrow one could fit a much wider tire with them fitted.
+Jason Guest there is no spring but I assume yes with some tuning.
the spring rate is adjustable. More gas volume means a softer spring rate. These strut work extremely well on side x sides as well as full bodied rigs. I'm sure a person with the time to experiment could make them work well. To change ride height, just increase the top chamber pressure. To lower ride height , just release the top chamber gas until desired height is achieved.
Thinking about it some more... The product as shown would only work with certain suspension types. For a MacPherson strut car, which a lot of them are, the bottom mount would have to be reworked quite a bit.
Just curious is there a cheaper version to ORI shocks....??
No, not anything like it but you can look at air shocks, they are similar but apples and oranges as far as ride quality and capabilities
@@bleepinjeep Thanks for the fast reply love the channel
These any good for prerunners?
I have an older built prerunner with bucket coils plus 2.5 non coil shocks.
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Im wanting to delete the bucket coils.....
Shes 4linked -no leaf springs.
Sure, great for any suspension
These do not react as fast as a coilover. if you are fast prerunning like I do for the Mint400, these will fade really fast. Now KOH were its a fast section and then slower rock crawling, they should be alright.
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Thanks for the response,(i just now saw it) , what brand you running?
You do a street legal class? If yes what should i run for a daily driver (50/50) on/off road.
somebody needs to learn or review the ideal gas law..... the volume nitrogen occupies changes with temperature just like it does with any other gas..... PV=NRT. sorry to rant, this is just a slight pet peeve of mine.
+Ben J -ohh ya duhh, I totally forgot pv = nert
+BleepinJeep haha, I don't know why that stuck in my head from uni, but it did... and I don't know why I cared enough to comment, maybe I just want to feel smart about something :) Thanks for walking through everything you're doing on the crawler. I'll never do anything like this to my xj, but it sure is fun to watch you transform the crawler and get a glimpse of everything that's going into it.
am i the only one who noticed he talked about the bump stop twice almost perfectly each time as if it was a mistake in the editing?
+Sy W ya, that was my bad, I just fixed it!
+BleepinJeep Its all good, I just thought I was tripping lol. Keep up the great content!
On a stock XJ too?
+WolfKingJS54 these will work on just about any off road vehicles
+WolfKingJS54 - You would need hoops or some sturdy mounts top and bottom. the normal shock mounts aren't meant to support the weight of the entire vehicle.
Do u need to angle these any and where do I pick them up or talk to someone
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How much is one of these?
+Noah Guyse a set of four is around 2500-3000 from my understanding, it depends on length of strut you need and if you want resiviors etc but i believe it is 500-750 each. Its been a while since i looked though
I think the beard is gone and we're back to summertime Matt w bleepinjeep
Why has nobody made this part of the stock equipment if it's able to replace all the much heavier and space taking components?
+ToxicTiki Price and machining. Leaf and coil springs work, are easily made and they are cheap. They may not be as sophisticated as these struts but they are still effective and dependable.
The weight savings could be significant enough to eek extra gas mileage though, which seems to trump all lately.
ToxicTiki
Manufactures will find that weight savings elsewhere in cheaper parts that can be replaced by plastic like bumpers trim etc. The almighty dollar will always play a huge role in the design and engineering of factory vehicles. Parts like these start out in limited edition vehicles with low production numbers where premium prices can be asked for them. Ford, Dodge and GM are always focused on profit and custom parts like these struts can change their bottom lines so it will be overlooked.
+ToxicTiki - Well these are expensive but more importantly they are fairly new as well. While they are becoming more popular for racing ORI's do require a lot of tuning, they also require extra equipment to fill with Nitrogen, and if they lose pressure, they bottom out and don't work at all. So having them come factory wouldn't make much sense. But regular struts do come on many vehicles, they are similar but are more like a coil spring shock combo with the shock in the middle of the coil.
Coilovers ftw! raced them both, dont like ori's at all
Why ?
@@scothansen13 not for Racing application, cant handle the heat
@@nielswijnia88 Ah, Iv'e heard that. So yeah, I'll be doing more rock crawling.
So if it fails. It's like Ron jermy tapping on your rectus
Joe Dirt young Ron Jeremy. When an old school strut fails it’s like old rom Jeremy soft and gross feeling
Hahahahaha!!
OY-ILL or OLL? Lets take a vote.
i spy an ls motor
The Audio and Video are out of sink. So I got to pretend I listening to the radio.
Sway bar? I don't understand that claim.
+ntme9 I'm pretty sure it has to do more with high speed cornering rather than crawling. If the shocks are tuned properly it's not going to lay over in corners. That's my guess.
+BleepinJeep Yea, I don't know .Still don't see how. Not without some type of active communication between the left and right shock. I guess you could set up the compression and rebound to resist too much roll and back roll but seems to me then all other driving situations with the shock would them be too harsh. I knew I should have taken engineering dang it!
BleepinJeep , after a year of getting to play with these what is your opinion on this subject now?
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