Preparing for 4 Links
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- Опубликовано: 22 май 2016
- In this video I'll walk you through the preparation for 4 links and everything that is involved.
Next video on making the 4-links: • Making Control Arm Links
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Love what y'all doing to keep our hoby in the spotlight
Kyle
It really looking awesome Matt! I looks forward to watching everyone of your videos
Your videos are awesome! The videos from most of the new crew are something else... Can't wait to see the final product!
I love the project! can't wait to see it finished
Another great video!! I'm still somewhat new to off roading/working on cars but your videos have helped a lot when I'm working on my ZJ
the jeep is coming along nicely :) I can't wait to see the finished product !!
love all our knowledge and your videos help a lot I'm puttin tons under my zj myself and uve helped a ton already thanks
I've always called that knot at 18:00 a "I don't know what it's called but it seems to work" knot...
thanks for another great vid matt looks great,godbless
build to full bump.. so simple, but I have never considered that.. thanks for sharing that!
Robert Paul Guidry u
When measuring for your link lengths. You should subtract 1" from your measurements to allow for Heim joint adjustment.
i like the way this build is going that thing is going to be a monster
I love your vids, I learn so much. Thanks for doing what you do.
sure, thanks for watching!
looking good so far now let go to the next step i an butting a 4 links on my 2000 jeep tj so far so good for me i did what u say about the pipe that was good
Holy cow this thing is becoming quite amazing
thanks
Love the videos great content and get a laugh is a bonus
Great video
this set up looks like a monster truck set up. I may try this later on my jeep
Good JOB...
Nice thinking with the PVC.,, Better Too Jack up A $3 PVC pipe...then a $90 Stick of Steel...
Good Work...Sir...
for your front like that is contacting that drive shaft, I've seen some people bend that one link just slightly to clear it, but since you have the ability to move them, your safest bet would be to move them up about an inch or whatever you need
clove hitch knot...
You beat to it.
Kandi off road go kart
looks good but if you have to much trouble on the front a pan hard set up may be the go
Great vid. Hey bleepin do you have any videos on setting up 8 double adjustable short control arms properly?
There is no set up. You simply bolt them in, and tighten the jam nuts. Thats it.
I didn't notice he shaved until half way through the video and I was like what the shit when did that happen hahaha
have you checked your turning radius on lower links if they rub?
Matt I would like to put in some long arms in my ZJ hard to find long arms to fit the 249 transfer case I planed on making my own just need a hand figuring out my mesurments
Links have nothing to do with your transfer case.
Actually you take your tire size and x by .25 to get the measurement between the upper and lower control arms so for 40" tires you do 40x.25=10" that's how much space you need for 0 anti Squat and anti dive
This rule of thumb is more for ensuring your axle mounts are far enough apart to resist the twisting of the axle under acceleration or braking. One quarter the diameter of the tire is the typical target of the vertical separation of the control arm mounts at the axle.
The axle side separation does factor into the anti dive/squat number, but the angle between the upper and lower arms is what really determines it along with wheelbase and the center of gravity. When viewed from the side if you draw an imaginary line through the upper and lower links they will intersect at a point called the instant center. This is the pivot point of the axle. Now draw a line from that pivot point to where the tire touches the ground and make sure the line goes all the way to the other axle. Draw a vertical line from the other axle up to the center of gravity height. Where the line from the instant center and the tire contact point intersects with the line from the other axle to the center of gravity height determines the anti dive or squat. If this intersection is at the height of the center of gravity, that is 100%. If it is halfway to the center of gravity height that is 50%. If is is twice the center of gravity height that is 200%.
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The above image is for anti-squat of the rear axle, but anti-dive of the front suspension is the same, just at the other end of the vehicle.
The actual value of anti dive/squat is debatable, but most agree about 60-80% is where you want to be. You also have to consider how this changes as the suspension cycles. The upper control arm mount(s) is(are) typically adjustable at the frame side to manipulate the anti dive/squat value after the suspension is built as the angle of the links is a primary driver of the anti dive/squat value.
@bleepin jeep that's a clove hitch from a fellow eagle scout
Hey Matt would love to know where there is a good write up on doing a four link haven't been to successful but want to do one to my Cherokee. Love the way the crawler is coming along!!
not sure anyone could write all that up but there are some pages and calculators dedicated to that on pirate.
do not get me wrong this is a very informational video but im lookin at this video and you said everything looks good but i see the upper link hitting the body and a major kink where the tube and the heim meet you must clearance the body for the uppers or bend the tube to clear the body i myself want to do away with the track bar and put coils in the rear of my xj
Mark Daywalt i'f you pay attention to the video you'll see he acknowledges that. You don't don't need to tell him. He knows. 🙄
I'm thinking of making my own web Chanel on some rigs I'm building. so I had a question about can you make some decent money doing the videos to help kinda pay for it as you go being I don't make much money but I have great experience in fab work! I love you channel Iv watched every episode and many of them more then a few times lol hope to hear from you and thanks for the visa my 4x4 friend keep up the great work can't wait to see the scorpion in action!!!
Siiiiiiiiiick!
do you know a guy who makes axle brackets for more than just jeeps. my Dana 60 on my dodge ram has all the the control arm mounts and spring seats falling off and I don't think I can just buy them. Any help is appreciated.
CLOVE HITCH!!!
looks good but I would have done Dana 44 (Ford) with a F9 (ford as well), or I would've just went ahead and put it on tons, and maybe a more custom suspension
Definitely a high pinion front axle. Don't think a LP TJ 44 will hold up to 40's unless he babies it. Ring and pinion will be the weak link. Will be interesting to see.
+jake32401 I don't think d44 was the axle to use with 39 1/2 tires...
You should do a 4 link build on a regular cherokee so I can attempt to try it haha.
Its exactly the same thing. Doesnt matter if its a car, truck or Jeep. 4 links are all identical.
I don't think that front driveshaft will handle much torque. BTW glad to see the front sitting w/o jack stands
A quick question. On your upper Shock mount in the front you have a curved cross bar with no triangulation that I could see. With the curve that is going to put the cross bar into a torque situation on compression, then tension on full droop with a lot of wiggle pressure on the weld. It could work harden and crack at the Crossbar- Front fender tube. I see a light metal beginning of a box going down.. Thanks Love the videos.
I dont see a question in there?
Sorry. I was asking if you are going to triangulate the cross bar any more.
I know this is a old video but im building a buggy right now with a very similar 4 link setup that was already welded to the unibody when I purchased the chassis. So my question is have you had any pinion angle/ujoint binding issues in the rear with this setup? I've read about the shorter uppers causing pinion the roll and bind at the yoke u-joint. Appreciate any response.🤘🏻
why did you choose narrow width axles instead of full width axles like 70s ford axles HP Dana 44, 9inch .the width would give you lateral stability. love all your jeeps. your a great craftsmen.
What size helms are those?
are these necessary
Is it not accurate to say that it's not a double triangulated 4-link because specially in the rear, your uppers go from axle inside to frame outside, but your uppers go from outside to outside?
I always thought a double triangulated 4-link required your lowers to be moved to basically under the driveshaft (mounted to a cross member, look at 17:22 in the video). I would have thought what you are building is just a triangulated 4-link and not a double?
That's besides the point though, because this build is incredible and I look forward to seeing some videos of it on the trail!
Did u do all Tha fab work
yes, well except for welding up the gas tank.
its a clove hitch! x2
Newbies to the channel be like, "what size tires and lift?"
noobs to off roading be like what lift and do they make it for a xj, or is it custom? lol
+Collin Campbell yes, I do get this a lot, lol
+BleepinJeep I gotta know, why Dana 44s?
clove hitch
It always makes me giggle to see PVC links. It looks like you installed a half bath up in the bed of the rig. LOL
They work great though.
Matt, if you didn't have the tube framing to use as your reference point, what part of the existing XJ body/frame would you use for a reference to align your front axle? I've been struggling with mine and tried a handful of different things but just don't feel super-confident in alignment yet. Centerline i feel okay about, but making sure it's not skewed (closer to front on one side, further to tail on the other) is where i'm most concerned.
+paparker21 if you have the centerline down then I would use the control arm length measurement.
+BleepinJeep or axle backwards to known points on the frame that are equal.
Where can I get a good price for Ori shocks? Thanks!
Andrei V there's no such thing man. Youre talking $3000 just for shocks
Matt, it would provide a more accurate moch-up to use pvc the size of the actual drive shaft.
+simken48462 they don't make 1.875" pcv.
Oh, I thought you would go with an aftermarket drive shaft which has a larger body. Thanks for providing all the cool videos. Thumbs up to all involved.
simken48462 aftermarket drive shafts arent larger in diameter.
Im having issues with overheating. Ive replaced the thermostat and the water pump. ive also flushed the whole system but it is still running really hot. input needed.
Look in your radiator for thick deposits, check the fan is turning, look for anything blocking the radiator (plastic bags, news papers, leaves, etc.) And check if you installed the thermostat backwards rookie mistake but it happens
+Chris Findlay ive done all of that... im probs gonna upgrade to a tarus fan and see if that helps...
You most likely have a leaking head gasket.
are you going fully doorless or have plans of doing a half door/ tube door kind of thing?
+Hunter Kraw it's gonna be welded bars like in a rock bouncer
see pics on the fb page.
Let me clarify I mean double adjustable CA on a tj
Its a clove hitch
Clove hitch
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Is the dodge truck for sale
+Teddy Monroe yes, 10k obo
lift front tires is to low for crawling
can u do a jeep budge build ?
+Jose Pt Tellez huh?
+BleepinJeep he means jeep budget build
+andrew drake yeah
It's on the list of to do's but I have to finish this one first.
this is a bugit build
New Camera?
same as it ever was
Better vid somehow.
GQ
Quick question. I'm sure the answer will be no, but are you planning to make it street legal?
no
selling the truck already?
+austin cassell trying to, dont want to but I need a truck that can get me to California reliably
SoCal? For work or pleasure?
+Dennis B just a thought incase I wanted to go to an event across country
BleepinJeep ahh kool!
Cinch knot
Damn Mocking Birds, they need to go extinct!! They are so loud and annoying, and they sit outside your bedroom window and keep you up at night.
Can you contact me about your truck please. No joke.
contact me through the craigslist ad please, its on the knoxville, tn cl.
will do thanks
other than wasting time on a Jeep. I like the fabrication aspect of your vids...
Clove hitch
clove hitch
Dodge is for sale?
+joelmacleod17 yes, 10k obo
maybe there could be a j10 or j20 build instead! hahaha, as if you didn't have enough on your plate already
Clove hitch