How To Deal With Broken Hinges - LFC
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- Опубликовано: 26 апр 2021
- Full walk-through for approaching a laptop with busted hinges including assessment, parts ordering, and fitting. This particular one is a HP 15-bs series, but this video should show you how to approach the problem on any model.
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Here is my take on this:
- The hinge mechanism have a self-tightening feature, otherwise they would become loose over time;
- That feature is also the problem, because over time some models will become over-tight an the plastic will give up first;
- If possible, after gluing everything together, you should loose the hinges a bit (there is a bolt/screw in most hinge models), because otherwise the plastic will break again;
- The rule of thumb for how much loose should be (with the laptop closed), lifting the lid without lifting the base together. The tightness should be enough just to keep the screen in place, because over time it will self-tight again;
- If your laptop is already requiring two hands to open the lid all the way, you should consider preventively loose the hinges, otherwise you risk the next time you open the laptop will be the one with the crack sound.
A good practice I find is to put all the screws back in place while waiting for parts. It guarantees you don't lose them, and you don't have to remember where they go.
So funny man, I run a repair shop and do like 2 of these repairs a week. However, I sat through the whole video at 06:00 and enjoyed it thoroughly. We're an odd bunch lol
Me too, ive no idea why, he even talks a bit like me but still i watch :)
When it comes to rubber feet I peel them back halfway just enough to remove the screw. They stick better that way. Love the video:)
I don't know why I find it so relaxing to watch you fix these things,
I guess I like to see dead things come back to life again. Thank you
The last hinge repair I had to contend with was a HP Mini Netbook, both hinges torn out of the top. A replacement top case was going for $80 on ebay, while I could get a whole new replacement HP Mini was going for $60 on ebay. Neither was a good option for my customer. . . . . . Gorilla Glue Epoxy however, was only $5 at the hardware store !!!
Indeed. Is much faster and you don't need to replace anything. Loosening the hinge is a good measure too, otherwise it will break againg over time.
I like this new outro style, seeing the finished repair in the end is very satisfying.
(27:18 ‒ 27:42) "tricks of the trade"... loved it! Thanks so much for sharing. All the best.
I find your videos very informative, relaxing and I love watching them. Ty.
When you took the back cover off I knew the machine immediately, I had a battle with one for the last week. 255 G6 the one I worked on, webcam/mic issues but I eventually got sorted. Nice video!
Proper job and not a drop of hot glue in sight.
A trick : you can watch movies at Flixzone. Me and my gf have been using it for watching all kinds of movies during the lockdown.
@Spencer Wells Yup, I have been watching on Flixzone} for since december myself =)
A very pleasant view. Thanks Graham. 👍
Great video! Love these repair videos, great job and would love to see more repair videos
thank you only video I found to show clearly the cable tidying and hinge attachment.
One option instead of hot glue are leather rivet screws. Come in a variety of lengths. It does req more effort and modding but the end result is worth it. And the hinges have nuts to adjust the tension. Back them off ~1/4 turn and they won't fail to begin with.
Thanks for the upload!!
Hello Adam, nice and usefull videos on your channel, s been a while since I follow you and man, did I learn a lot of things! Referring stricly to this one, since I use to service laptops in the last 15 or so years, let me mention that the hinges - even the new ones - are working much better and easier with a litle help from our good common friend, WD40. In fact, every time a do a full service on a laptop, including cleaning, dusting, pasting etc I'll do a few drops of WD40 on the hinges, especially if they are Asus or HP's. Sometimes it's a messy job but I use to insulate the hinge part with some napkins. A few times (I got lucky) client brings in the laptop before breaking it and I use to dissasemble the hinges and dive them in WD40 or a similar oil over the night, after cleaning them with technical or isopropilic alcohol. Next day, they work like a charm. If I can loose them just a little bit from the nut, that's even better. Tottaly agree with Magoid comments. And yes, often there are no spare parts, so there's black, strong hot glue, fiber glass or dual-epoxy. Keep up the good work !
Great video, with your explanation I could replace the hinges and cover of my HP laptop. Imposible without your help. Somehow I disconected the battery, but I can use it wired. I will take a new look to what I did and try t fix it. Thank you
If it's small damage, like one tread fall out or body isn't devastated I use two component epoxy. If it's ungluable damage drill through shell 3,5mm every screw hole add 3x 3M screws though hinges body add other side add small stainless steel plate 0.5mm with same holes distances like in hinges screws together and it never fail again. Or simply buy a new body on ebay if is available.
Nice work Graham !
Smashing repair graham, it now looks like nothing ever happened :-D
We all lose the odd screw, they vanish into the underworld or in my turn ups in the distant past :-D
And that is why I purchased 900 assorted of the little buggers only to find the specific one I was after wasn't included n the pack even though it said it was. Ended up buying another 900 from a different seller then I had to buy and appropriately partitioned box to keep them in. I don't and haven't done hardware support for 25 years and this was just for family and friends. At least I can now replace missing screws on any non MacBook machines that cross my path. The Mac ones are like hens teeth and cost more than their weight in Unobtanium. 😱
HP invented this problem. I have several here at the moment. One has been repaired twice...
I have tons of these hinge breakage videos. Loctite Plastic epoxy (edit: the two-part kind, not the single squeezy tube) is my go-to goop. I really hate doing these though.
Cool, thanks for that one Jody. I appreciate that. 👍
@@josephking6515 always happy to help!
@@josephking6515 forgot to mention: the two-part epoxy kind, not the single tube.
I was just about to ask if anyone would recommend using 2-part epoxy, I’ve attempted this on an old laptop let’s see how it turns out, but I’ve lubricated the hinges with oil (not WD40) and loosened the nut on the hinge so it opens/closes easily, the hinges become stiff to the point where they break, this was suggested in another RUclips vid
I used the same stuff on a Compaq LTE Lite. The plastic that holds the screws in for the hinges was completely gone. I hope it turns out.
Got same laptop with exactly this problem. Left hinge broken off the side support strutt. I really don't care about having it repaired cos I've just gorilla glued it and it's stronger than ever now. Good to see all the hassle I avoided by using glue. Pretty much ruined my chances of future repairs if the other hinge goes I'll have to glue that too lol.
I tried bodging a fix on the lid of my old laptop by epoxying the knurled nuts back into place. It worked for about a year but the epoxy slowly started to crack and the hinges became loose again. I got a replacement lid and attempted a proper job that mostly went OK. However I did manage to break the microphone built into the webcam. It's strange because the webcam works fine but the microphone, although the left channel works, the right just gives white noise and I can't force windows to use the left channel only. (Altering the microphone balance does nothing). One thing that nearly caught me out was that the bezel, that I also replaced, had a magnet in it that told the laptop when the lid is closed. So if you do a lid replacement and Windows doesn't sleep when you close the lid, try looking for a magnet in the old lid that needs moving over.
I alway relise some of the tension on the hinges by loosing the nut,less chance of breaking
excellent fix
From my experience the hinges are often too tight and cause extra stress on the case lugs . I tend to loosen them and apply oil if I am servicing
A lot of those sticky pads can be made sticky again with a whipe from something with iso on it . I do it with light strips, pads like the underside of devices like here , a Laptop . Not all will do that but the vast majority will . Cheers
Nice work👍
JOB DONE!
Nice tutorial. Thumbs up.
I swear those HP 250 G6s were faulty design. I've repaired/replaced loads of them in my work.
We even had three sent back to HP for warranty repair as they all broke from the bottom case soon after deploying them.
A couple I've managed to use a soldering iron to melt plastic and reattach the fastener/thread bit. Quick and dirty, but worked.
Manufacturers will have tested the lid hinge assembly for Mean time between failures and would have accessed probability of breaking in every day use. Which goes to show you the contempt they have for their customers.
Our workplace uses HP laptops and a few of them have had the same issue. It seems the hinges have a stronger force and the connecting mechanism to the lid housing is a contentious point of failure and it appears to be thinner plastic mouldings joining to the metallic hinge goes first 😂🤯🧐
I reinforce those broken areas with two part epoxy paste.
My fav brand so far is PC-11. This stuff is super sticky and really strong.
Thanks Aurthor, yet another one to look at. I was using Araldite but wasn't took satisfied with it due to it it being a bit runny and if you waited for it to get a bit more viscous then you could end up running out of time to form the gunk into the _shape_ you wanted and it would go hard on you before you could finish. A tad annoying.
I use Loctite Plastic, the two-part epoxy with the purple and blue label. It is quite thick and sets in 5 minutes, just long enough to position everything and test.
@@josephking6515 Loctite Plastic two-part, hope that helps. 😊
@@JodyBruchon PC-11 takes 24 hours to cure but it's used to hold sinks under countertops.
Sticks to almost anything and it can cure underwater.
@@aurthorthing7403 Sounds strong, but I wouldn't want something that strong just in case I needed to redo anything later. Not that the Loctite isn't strong, though. I suppose past a certain point of strength, it just doesn't matter what you use.
Great work as always.. but my ocd seeing that screen not clean.. thanks for that
2:20 Graham, I would love to see you take a laptop that's functional but not worth repairing (I'm sure you plenty you've acquired and keep for parts) and just start experimenting on it. Can you actually replace a $20 wifi antenna with a few cents worth of wire? What about the expensive display cables? Are there cables one might have lying around that can work in a pinch? Obviously, most of your customers are going to want real replacement parts. But you have over 100k people in the world that are probably never going to walk into your shop. It could very interesting to see what sorts of repairs could be accomplished WITHOUT the proper parts. And will the fixes only hold temporarily, or will they last indefinitely? How much jank can you introduce into a laptop and still have it work? Sometimes, that's the only option for people who need to fix something fast and/or cheap. Or it just might show how absurd it is to charge $20 for a wire, I mean wifi antenna.
I always ask the customer if they care about the colour enough to pay the colour premium, more often than not they'd rather save the £5 and have a mismatched lid
Next time your near a Dollar store head to the Arts section. They carry small plastic zip top bags. I use the bags to store the screws while waiting for parts. But if you buy to many zip bags then people thing your selling drugs.
Why don't you promote your shop on here? You have a great talent and your work is first rate love watching the channel.
Hello, this comment might not be related to this video in any way, but I know this is the right channel to ask this question. I have been following and watching videos from this channel beacuse I am very interested in electronics repair. I am from Kenya and looking to set up an electronics repair shop here. I am looking for advise on a magnifying desk lamp and the magnification that can help me inspect the tiny components on a logic board comfortably. I'm really restrained financially and I have no 100 USD to spend on a microscope. Links to what I need on ebay will be very appreciated. Keep up the good work. You've inspired me alot.
FYI Graham, the AliExpress prices have exploded IMO in the past 6 months. I am in Australia and Ali used to be 50 to 70% cheaper than eBay here. Now eBay is about the same price especially now that the cost of shipping from China has also gone through the -Wuhan Market- roof.
34:10 You really do make it look pretty with the help of Mr Sheen. I must get some for the laptops we have in our place.
I've seen the same price roll up on Ali looking at them here from Canada as well. And the shipping o m g ... gotta love the 2 dollar parts with the 135 dollar shipping on them LMAO
@@keeperofthegood Oh yeah, they is funny. I saw one where I could buy it from China for some stupid price or get it from Australia for single digit AUD$$ but the shipping was over AUD$700 *from* Australia *to* Australia. 🤷♂️
@1:07 This is a common thing on early Apple Macbooks, too.
Using the picture background on your desk makes a lot of confusing lines. Could I suggest a simple one colour background to make it more clear?
That will be the name of my new metal song: "Hate Pee". 🤘😈
Making good use of your battery driven screw driver. 👍
I can repair 90% of the broken hinges without ordering anything. I mostly use dual epoxy resin, thin napkin paper and sometimes fiberglass. I always do the repair in such way that all parts can still be separated if laptop needs to be reopened in the future. Never had anyone return for a rework, clients just keep recommending me to other people for this type of job.
Just skimmed the video so sorry if this was addressed: if you replaced the parts with exact replacements, won't the same thing happen again? I've had good success with epoxy. In a scenario where the brass inserts in the base of the laptop break out it also might be the only option. I was unable to even find a replacement base case. As I see it, epoxy offers a cheaper and stronger solution. No waiting for shipping if you keep some on hand and it will fit any model of laptop. Only downside I can think of is potential for mess. I admit I once glued somebody's power button, but a bit of steady dremel work solved that. Thoughts?
Reminds me of my old job , fixed tons of broken hinges.
32.15 looks like the power connector is not fully in even though it powered on?
I would also never use hot glue. I would use plastic welder epoxy on the lid and new hinges with new steel display frame made by HP. And plastic welder epoxy is a lot stronger than original crappy plastic mounts for the brass nuts.
Do the tops of the hinges not need screws ? the parts of the hinges up at the webcam
I have done this repair a lot without the spare parts. With loca glue and bakin soda. 1$ costs, 1 hour repair. The problem with this model is the design flaw. The estructure of the WILL break again even with this replace.
if the new hinge is very stiff it will beak again in some months. loosen the nuts a little
Indeed. No need to buy new hinges in a repair like this.
you can easily fix the old broken off screen hinges..... i use 2 component plastic epoxy...and glue back the broken off parts....i fixed about 20 laptops that way now....and not 1 has come lose again....
If the cables for the WiFi antenna had been broken could they not be repaired by soldering back together? Or would the repair introduce too much interference / signal loss
Possibly, but they're really really low gauge coax wires though, so they'd be a bitch to fix.
what screw driver is that please?
was it me but did he not plug the charging cable back in at the end
Yep. I think so too...
Hot Glue Like Sorin ... Come on Graham Wing it a bit lol Also Ironic that the Model Number on the HP was BS ... Cheers For Vid
Yea and heck the next poor sod who has to open the laptop for maintenance =/
@@Adamant_IT never Imagine You taking Shortcuts Graham … Cheers
Hi! I was just wondering what the metal tape stuff that's attached to the WIFI antennas is and what is it for? I was replacing some antennas the other day and had no idea if it was essential, or if it had to be perfectly flat ect. I would've googled it but i have no idea what to call it! any pointers would be MUCH appreciated as its never fun not knowing about what you're working on.
Also I cant believe how gripped I am by this video, you need to start a Netflix series or something haha!
Shielding, trying to make sure that wireless signals go in the right direction. I wouldn't call it essential though, so if the tape got damaged, it's not going to wreck wifi performance.
@@Adamant_IT ahhh, that makes sense! Thanks for taking the time to respond
how much did the customer finally have to pay in this case?
thanks for this tutorial dude. But how do you put the wifi cables so fast in the wifi card? Is ther a trick? I strugle always with this.
Just good aim I guess! Sometimes I struggle with them though, occasionally I'll fumble for a few minutes when it just slips out of line every time I press down.
@@Adamant_IT So, keep trying is the keyword. I am a novice in computer repair. I learn a lot from your videos. You explain them very clearly. Although my mother tongue is Dutch and I don't understand English very well. I understand your explanation quite well. If there are many writing errors in this, then this is google translate's error. I can't write English at all.
Hey man I wonder why you don't use thread locker for the screws? What if they come lose from the stress of the hinges?
I've never found it necessary myself, but I've been meaning to get some just for hinge screws if nothing else. Given that all stock screws come out with thread locker on them, I'm not convinced that it's effective. Didn't seem to help it the first time. Torqueing the screws down seems to be the best defense.
@@Adamant_IT I trialled using thread locker for a while. Where it is good for holding the screws in, I had one or two that had to be opened up again at a later date and the extra force needed to start the unscrewing caused the metal thread insert to shear away from the plastics.
What’s thread locker?
@@darattaqwa It's mild glue like substance that fills the gap in the screw thread and prevent it from coming lose on it on.
Quite an appropriate suffix to the model number then....BS :)
How much did you charge for this repair ??
How did that happen???? 🤔 🤔 🤔
Guess I will be the one to use hot glue and things like that to fix this if the hinges themselves aren't snapped off... I am starting to get this balance with the combination of hot glue and superglue that the results can turn out pretty well.
In Canada we don't have the privilege of buying something like this and expect it to show up in a few days... Most of the stuff we get either come from the US or China, and with eBay grappling monopoly forcing all exports from US sellers to use only their ghetto transfer postage service (called eBay "priority" international service), items in China with Speedpak arrive sooner! Not only is it most of the time not eligible for free postage, but also eBay many times charge upwards of $35 of postage for just a pair of hinges (small one that doesn't extend like this one) because this is like the moment when a direct flight is cheaper than a transfer flight!
So yeah eBay recently is trying to kick out all of its partners, cucking PayPal by not allowing you to be paid to PayPal, cucking USPS by not allowing international services outside of eBay's own ghetto, and now cucking Shippo by introducing their own postage buying service!
Also I think you will see a lot more of these faults in even crappier machines such as various Acer Asus Lenovo laptops. If you stay away from any Acer, Asus (excluding ROG), Lenovo (excluding ThinkPad), Dell Vostros, Inspirons and HP Pavilions, you will have a much lesser chance of this low quality fault.
Since you work with a lot of different manufacturers and models, can we get a video recommending laptops?
Based on his LFC videos I'd say stay away from HP.
I recommend enterprise/business models. Those tend to be better made and easier to fix in case they malfunction. Stay away from anything of the consumer line of any manufacturer.
Yea I agree with what people are saying here. Business-class laptops tend to be a lot more durable. I'm a Dell Latitude fanboy myself.
@@Adamant_IT I suppose I was just curious as to your opinion from a repair and replace perspective, almost none of the channels really take things like the cost of the lid or how puny the hinges are when reviewing laptops. What about a tongue and cheek tier list video? Might be somthing fun to do on two guys talk tech.
How do people send in their laptops that dirty to be repaired?
i bought one of these exact laptop for 30 fixed it up and gave it to family its alright but the parts are so cheap and rubbish
Didn't you forgot to put charging cable back properly?
Nice channel...
Around or under the WiFi card, as long as it gets there and doesn't strain anything that's what matters.
Why doesn't anybody tighten the screws on a monthly basis, like I do? No more broken hinges ever since
The weight of the screen filth broke the hinges.
Spin the lid 180 degree's and you've got a dy laptop
1:04 That's a nice dy laptop you have there
I have fixed hundreds of HP Spectre XT 13 inch, and most of them also cracked the LCD, horrible machine.
I have this model laptop, build quality is very bad.
What the hell did someone do to that thing?
Could have been completely normal use. It's way too common of a problem on plastic laptops and basically an engineered point of failure
Hot 🔥 snot is widely used lol
It sucks to see consumer HP laptops because if you've ever seen an elitebook, you know how much better they can make laptops, but they send out this garbage.
Indeed. When people ask me about what laptop to buy, I always talk about business models, even the used one if you didn't have the moneys for one brand new. Consumer line of any manufacturer is generally a week to break after the warranty expires...
I think the Elitebooks are under HP Enterprise, which is an entirely separate company to HP Inc (consumer)
@@Adamant_IT well, even if you look at their spectre laptops or any of their higher-end laptops, you still see how well HP can make laptops when they put their mind to it.
Unfortunately the majority of parts for laptops are proprietary, therefore pricier than they need to be.
i will never buy from Alliexpress one of their "members" screwed me on a board - Perhensin it was
I have a customers LT here , HP too . Way better than this Cheap one youre repairing . I had to go have a closer look and ya, Built from Aluminum, Screen Frame is Aluminum and the "Hinges" are part of the Frame, not attached , theyre part of the whole frame, it is One Piece . EliteBook its called . Theyre not all like this LT youre fixing . You Do get what you pay for . Dont discount them out so fast young man :) ...And no im not a fanboy . Only stating a Fact . Cheers .
I just refuse
Buying from China BREXIT is essentially irrelevant, nothing has changed dealing outside the EU other than movements in currency exchange rates. The problem is the computer parts market, where there has been massive price inflation, ask some people from Australia &/or USA.
Plenty of places where BREXIT makes a difference, this isn't one of them. Order stuff from inside the EU, then you might have grounds.
Its pronounced HP
I keep wanting to wipe off my screen.
HP consumer grade are basically trash aren't they
Modern laptops are crap because they are ALL full of "Chineseium"
How to deal with broken hinges? Simple. Don't buy a Lenovo or HP laptop
If they were the only one breaking the hinges... I personally have fixed more Dell laptop hinges than other manufacturers, but none is shielded from this problem.
So the best way to repair the broken hinges is to order everything new and call it repairs and we spend 35 mins in learning how to order parts, great way to make youtube videos.👍