WARNING! Airplane Nerds ONLY Abandoned Cessna 411 Extended Directors Cut
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- This is the extended version of the abandoned 411 that we looked at in California.
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That guy that was inspecting the airplane with you was an absolute legend! He knows so much I was really impressed. You really need to give a major shout out to him in the next video.
this inspector knows planes like scotty knows cars very good.
@@sherwinsamuel2502 raging leftist
I would like to start an apprenticeship under him at 44yo...
@@danm6499 I would sign up for that class
Not only he is knowledgeable I just enjoyed his calm and at times funny comments. The kind of mentor I’d like to have at our flying club .
Hi Jim I love your videos. I am 72 and sit in my chair waiting for your videos. I have alsZys been an aviation freak since my parents would take me to watch aircraft take off and land. Now house bound I rely on videos like yours to make my day enjoyable I love your videos Jim. Thank you for keeping my life going
Paul, check out Greg’s Airplanes. It’s a tour d’ force of aircraft and car knowledge. Very entertaining and informative!
Blessings Paul, love aviation, aircraft,flight with endless passion.Wanted to say hello,Lord God bless you.From Jerry Nebraska USA
@@geraldmcintyre3673 May God Bless You Gerald
I AGREE
Keep on keeping on buddy! I'm about your age and I work every day trying to save America from the DEMWITS and other idiots.
This guy is a legend. Please consider bringing him back to the show in the future!
its not just for airplane nerds - anyone with an interest in anything mechanical will enjoy this - thanks Jimmy
This guy is a wealth of knowledge on this plane. I love guys like this who are willing to share. Very rare anymore. He needs to get paid. Worth every penny.
My uncle had one of these, I remember I couldn’t reach the rudder pedals but my uncle let me fly as long as I only turned 10 degrees or less. I learned to fly on instruments before I could see over the glare shield. Soloed when I was 16 and got my private and instrument certificate on my 17 birthday. 23,643 hours later and still fly 4 or 5 hours a week now a retired captain. I encourage any young people to learn to fly as early as possible, there’s no age limit to start just can’t solo till 16 and get your certificate at 17
I'm occasionally invited to give career day talks at area high schools and in essence what you suggested is almost always part of it due to the questions asked. The interest is there which is great to see.
I would love to learn to fly but it is way to expensive
I got mine at 17 as well, thanks to Civil Air Patrol.
👽👍
I worry about your sanity, but I am glad to be a part of this community. Thanks for the adventures! #SaveThe310.
love how the mechanic backed away when you were "compression checking" that engine LMAO. My man has seen some things Jimmy lol
I love these old guys passing on decades of knowledge.
Your IA is a good guy who really knows his stuff. You're a lucky guy and should do whatever it takes to keep him in you orbit.
Don't you love how the Extended Director Cut always explains those plot holes in the theatrical cut, this is like a whole new video. 😄 This is more like the Extended Director Recap Cut.
36:08 was that a Fletch reference? it's all ball bearings nowadays.. I love this guy!
Apparently the guys who designed my 89 Fleetwood Limited Edition 37 ' Class A RV were avid Cessna Twin Executive fans, as my big motorcoach has those same tables, armrests and almost the same number of gauges in it's dash.
I've been restoring and upgrading it in the Classic Jimmys World mode of operation. Throw $ MOney at it until it works again. Repowered it because, well, it needed MORE Power! Gas to Turbo Diesel.
Would've loved to have seen this one start up! Hopefully there's more to this story!
I own SN 105 and love it. Strakes, VG's, no cowl flaps improve VMC. Big items are aux tank bladders, heater, old alternators, fuel and oil hoses and ancient avionics. Get an upgrade. OEM turbos and parts are not available. Remove the boots and associated anti-ice plumbing. AD doesn't allow flight into known icing. Save the weight. Knisely can come up with exhaust parts. Yeah, there's lots more stuff to take a look at to make this thing airworthy.
Hands-down this guy is the professor listen up students if you want to learn something this guy can teach you plenty what a blessing
i would love to spend a month with that guy... holy cow the knowledge in his head is gold.
“Everything of course is ball bearings”. I don’t think Jimmy caught that movie reference dropped by the mechanic. The movie was Fletch, starring Chevy Chase. Look it up if you have not seen it, hilarious movie. Look up the scene where Chevy is impersonating an A&P or airplane mechanic. One of Chevys greatest movie scenes in my humble opinion.
Jimmy, I just want to say, I absolutely love what you are all about. We need to get more youngsters involved with aviation as there is definitely a demand for pilots and mechanics currently. I fly business jets out of SE Michigan and absolutely love it. Aviation is one of the best industries on the planet to be involved with, plenty of big opportunities these days. I feel blessed and lucky to have the job that I do and it is hard to beat the rush one gets while flying high performance jets.
Thank you for the uploads Jimmy and for shining a positive light on aviation.
Fan for life!!
My flight school has one of these sitting around dismounted, used to be for students Multi-Engine rating until 20 years ago after it had a accident, crazy to think people learned to fly in these knowing what the planes capable of and its features. Great Video !
All aircraft deserve respect of course , but that 411 can be a real handful on one engine. My advice would be to have someone who is really familiar with the 411, demonstrate it's dark side. It's better to experience it when prepared, than to discover it when your not.
So glad your language is clean, I can watch with my granddaughter,she loves aircraft
This guy doing the inspections with you is a legend!
I made the comments this week 🙂 nothing better to watch when your poorly, love the videos jimmy
Thanks for your comment, glad you enjoyed the video!
I owned and flown a Cessna 411 for a while. Great airplane..... So the first big difference between the 411 and other 400 series Cessna, is the tail. It has a 310 size tail. Other 400 series Cessna have the larger tail surface. The 411 got a bad rap for not having enough tail surface in case engine out during take-off and thus loss of directional control and taking more than normal amount of counter rudder pressure. Thus AD was issued, increasing the airspeed before lift-off or rotation, minimum safe airspeed for take-off. Yeah, OK, its still a Cessna and flies wonderfully if operated properly. I'd check all fuel systems, lines, hoses, filters, selector valves. I'd buy new batteries, tires tubes, change oil and filters, inspect air filters in wing, make sure no bird nests and condition of air filter. Run up engines, maybe pull all plugs, clean and or buy new plugs if worn, mag check, check compressions, make sure electric fuel pumps work good, check for any fuel leaks, and verify that all fuel throttles, fuel cute off, and mixture and prop controls are free and move easily. Inspect exhaust for any cracks or leaks. Cycle those props, and make sure the electric cowl flaps operate fully. I'd order new fuel sump drain valves, or clean and replace o-rings on those, you'll be lucky if your fuel injection throttle/fuel control units, which have internal o-rings, and the spider valve on top of engines with internal rubberized diaphragm are not hardened. I might even replace the brake fluid in brake system. I'd be surprised if the brakes will even pump up without at lease adding fluid.
I think this was the plan
At 06:20 it is NOT a Storm Scope. This is an RCA AVQ-55 Radar. There is a dish antenna in the nose of the plane that feeds this equipment (if not removed...).
At 6:34 you pointed to one of the two ADFs control panels that have selections for Compass, Antenna and Loop (two types of antenna that ADF has), signal intensity gauge plus BFO (beat frequency oscillator) ON or OFF. When ON, a tuning tone can be heard which aids in tuning the frequency, since the frequency in this ADF is set by a dial at the bottom of this panel. The higher the tone (and the needle at the gauge), better the frequency is set. There is also a dial to set the volume level (that enables hearing the sation) and a "Loop" switch to set the loop antenna manually. All this is absolutely obsolete, obviously. But I've operated a similar system 15 years ago on Boeing 737-200 and that ADFs NEVER failed.
At 6:47 you pointed to an old RNAV equipment, which doesn't utilizes GPS information, but from a VPU (VOR Processing Unit) instead, that selects VOR stations with DME to triangulate and calculate aircraft position. The system works like an Omega or LORAN, but using the VOR/DMEs as the primary source.
I would only buy this plane if there was an STC to replace the engines with Lycomings direct drive. Otherwise, I would never feel safe flying these engines, which are known to be difficult to handle and maintain.
It's okay to say you just don't know ...
@@christopherleveck6835 ...but I prefer to say the truth.
Great insight Mola, alot of us enjoy any and all information you guys put into the community of aviation. Thanks again!
@@danhansen3109No problems. I operated several "paleolithic" equipment until 17 years ago and I (still) have them fresh in my memory...
@@RobertoRMOLA i prefer to be facetious but that does not mean that i'm not very impressed with your knowledge
I don't fly but I found this totally interesting. Looking forward to seeing this fly again. My father flew, . He learnt in an aircoup. Based at Biggin Hill. Good luck Jimmy.
We can not let this knowledge die. These guys need to have RUclips channels too.
Jimmy's World playlist for Nerds & Tech talk.
Jimmy...You ROCK !! Have a great day ! From Steve in Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Man that IA is a wealth of information, I could listen to him all day. And Jimmy part of the day.😂 I never get tired of these videos.
I love this stuff. Having someone that knows the airframe and what to look for is interesting.
I am, an airplane nerd.
That guy is the Bob Ross of Airplane Maintenance!
I worked at a place where the Director of Operations said of our Director of maintenance "Ole JOE has forgotten more about round engines than either you or I will ever know... normally you'd take that as a funny way to make a complement.. As I was walking away he continued, "The problem IS, IS that he HAS FORGOTTEN IT..." An airplane sitting for 6 months is a candidate for a ferry permit... One sitting as long as this old girl needs an annual before she goes anywhere... There is a way to have a really good IA take it all apart and tell you what all needs fixed... Flying it away without doing an annual is a way of Getting it off the field so nobody has to deal with it anymore... An annual inspection could eaiily go $10K without actually performing any work. At that point one decides whether it is worth walking away or completing a full annual.... I walked away from a really nice Baron C that needed the engine cases replaced...
Really love the deep dive I to this one! Jimmy has inspired me to get my pilots license hope to be in the air by 2023
An absolute classic. What a beauty. Once restored, it would be a great resale, baby.
Thank you for brightening my day!
I'm so glad!
First, I don't know why it took RUclips 5 months to suggest this video even though I'm a subscriber. Second, I guess I am a true airplane nerd because I enjoyed every minute of it.
Please post more of these directors cut videos. Hopefully you two will get better at suggesting them.
What a Beautiful plane !
I love the vintage interior in this one !
Just takes You back to the 1970s,
Awesome- Subscribed!
That is a sweet ride! Looks like a great plane to run your business with!
Through you I can live a flying fantasy! Thanks for saving me so much $$!
Happy to help!
Always love seeing your videos, that loud music near the end is very off putting. Unfortunately I had to turn it down because I was interested in what you were saying. Thanks Jimmy. 🇦🇺🇦🇺👍🏻👍🏻
Jimmy, I’m AP/IA PP type, with maybe 70ish hrs In T-6G. The airplane in no wind is so easy, a gusty cross wind is a different story. It’s got so much more inertia than say a Pitts. I’ve never bent one but I have some good stories. I just got back from working the week at LAL, Be back there next week. Warbird stuff…
Jimmy, this 411 is an AD Queen. The most valuable items are the logbooks - plane, props and engines. Were you able to review them? With the low airframe hours and good logs you might survive the annual. Then, all you will need is an oil well! Cameron is your only sustainable path forward as a poor government pensioner.
It’s hot here in Arizona, oh look, the dust is blowing, is it a dust devil? No, it’s JIMMY’S WORLD! Jimmy I love these videos. I was hoping you could make a deal on the 411.
it always puts a smile on my face when i see you've uploaded a new video
Thanks so much!
to bad it an old video
Amazing and very complete walkthrough and airworthiness inspection/ eval. He reminds me of how my Dad would go over a plane that he was looking to buy to fly or restore and i would learn something new or unique with every walkthrough. Brought back fond memories. While dad designed and built military aircraft, I went on to become an air traffic controller, became a regional FAA Examiner and retired from the profession a few years back. I still love flight and being around airports and work closely with FBOs and AIrport managers in my current job. Thanks for sharing!
my granddad had a 421B So many memories from my childhood.
I heard the Cessna 411 was a short lived Cessna Twin. I knew a pilot that lost an engine and almost ran out of rudder. He was an experienced pilot and the 411 scared him. I believe there were others who had the same opinion. Now, I noted this one had VG's on the wing which may help with engine out situations. Personally I would not have one. Read the safety reports on the C-411. There may have been mods that help it. Check the logs very carefully!
Hello from Minnesota!! What an absolute wealth of knowledge!!! Great episode!
As always, love your videos! 😄✈️
Thanks for your comment, glad you enjoyed the video!
FYI the Gentleman that is helping check over the plane is absolutely legendary
Love the content of your videos jimmy. . Get that 310 saved.
Can't wait to see the 310 up in the air flying. Jimmy's Love You video clips watch them as often as I can. I've been following the 310, since day one. Today is May 23rd 2022.
As usual, beginning to end, you hold my interest.
Some more trivia for you, Jimmy. In all of my career working on Jet Fighters, We never once used nitrogen. Of course, our air compressors were much more sophisticated than those found at your basic airfield. They used 10 micron filters to keep out contaminates and were designed to prevent water from getting into the tires or struts.
Nice to see the ashtrays in the side paneling… growing up as a kid in the 80’s forward they had ashtrays in everything and even was a factory option at one point in cars just like seat belts were a factory option at one point!
Whenever you check out a new addition I brings me back to him I started flying in the 60s
I watch your show a lot my father used to fly a 411 Cessna out of hobby airport in Houston and it is an airplane I spend a lot of time in when I was 14 through 16 how we did belly land one in at hobby airport and I love this airplane keep the 411 flying
We watched this one... Still love it!!
This one is totally you. Cleaned up, and made airworthy, I can totally see you in this and on the channel.
Where is part 2 ??? Enjoy the 2 of you....nice, easy, knowledgeable and understandable...very bueno....
Any plane that has been sitting outside this long would be an absolute nightmare. It would take a couple years to get it where you could trust it.
Thanks for another great video it was interesting and enjoyable.
For a plane that had sat for ten years not too bad at all. I am shocked how good of condition it is end.
The gentleman you have with you is one of the best I have seen and heard. He knows what he is looking at and what is what.
Wanting big money for this bird or reasonable dollars????????!
Are you considering this aircraft. ????? For your use or resale?????
Know a lot of questions but depends on what you want this bird to do
For you.
Looking forward to your decisions here.
Looking forward to the next video Jimmy.
Be careful.
Thanks for everything Jimmy and friend.
Retired Air Force veteran.
Thanks! He’s super sharp.
I was thinking this one for personal use. To get the team around the country to look at other planes. But, no deal… :/ keep on lookin
Always look forward to a new video!
Thanks! hahaha
Thank you for the always awesome videos!
Glad you like them!
Where in Florida are you going to take it to? I owned a 411 years ago and have somethings you may be interested in. Pilots checklist, owners manual, parts catalog, flight manual, performance calculator, and an aircraft heater .
Jimmy, you are descending into madness!
My heart goes out to the owners of aircraft like these in this time of stratospheric fuel and other costs.
I can't even maintain a bicycle sigh
Sure ya can just dig through you pile of parts!
@@fredcarter2894 I just stole this one Fred. Do you want it I'll go steal another one, lol jk
I've got a feeling that plane was an Armed forces fleet plane, because they ordered all the good stuff and didn't skimp (except cabin pressure but probably not needed in the role it was intended for)
Wow! In first 15 min but… no questions yet!
Thanks! hahaha! maybe you'll think of one :)
I have always wanted a Cessna 411 ever since completing multi engine flight training. However, these 411's have a poor safety record because of their single engine flight performance characteristics. If you were well trained, then maybe things went your way. Moreover, the geared engines were very expensive to overhaul and may even be obsolete as far as parts availability is concerned. Love that interior. Most likely the spar modification is required and that will most likely ruin any possibility of saving this cool bird.
GTSIO-520 s are on the 421s. As long as the crank case stays in tact you can get parts. I dare say you could even get engines overhauled.
I design corporate and private aircraft interiors and the type's pedigree aside what you showed us here in terms of the interior is literally my worst nightmare all in one airplane, I don't even think you can buy Plum leathers anymore and the tartan fabrics are literally what they make dog beds out of. I always name my interior concepts - this one would have to be called '70's Hoover salesman golfer's vomit'.
When I worked at Cessna we were always amused to see the clothing worn by the "Styling Center" guys. That's who helped customers "coordinate" exterior paint, interior fabric and carpet. 100 percent they wore stripes with plaid and colors selected by spinning a color wheel.
That was a very innteresting pre flight.
Hey jimmy I hope you are having a blessed day! Enjoy the weekend
You as well!
This is awesome. If need fuel enroute to Oshkosh or back to Tampa, land at Mt. Vernon,Illinois Airport. We have a very nice airport, staff, camaraderie, and aircraft for sale. Happy Landings, Echo Charlie
From an engineering point, it puzzles me how these latch mechanisms on pressurized planes are adequate. For this plane and this approximate door size, there is about 3ton of pressure on that door and there is just one little casual pin on the side to hold it like it was your grandma's camper from 1950.
I think you border on being a lunatic about general aviation airplanes but I love your videos. Perhaps you are a very smart lunatic. Thanks for the entertainment.
This guy is an open book like wow can we copy and paste his brain?
for real!
Was gonna go to bed but I've put that idea on hold.
HAHAHA, that's awesome!
Almost wet myself laughing at 6:03...... "You be rollin"
So will the 411 get new tires a quick pre flight!!! Some fresh fuel and a balls to the walls flight to Florida? Or is it getting a full inspection and a more safe flight to Florida?? I like safety so I'd go with the latter but the less concerned kid in me also likes the raise the hairs on the back of my neck style adventure... but is that even possible?
Interesting video! Nice plane! Good work! Thumbs Up
All the best from Romania
Andrew
Was hoping this would be a "I closed the deal" update on these planes. Still hoping. This looks like a great plane. Question though, Can you ferry this plane without doing a full annual on it?
Just purchased a lite sport ac and am getting back into flying after a 10 hiatus. Just trailered it home today. At 77yo, almost, it is time to get back into the sport I have loved since my first flight at a penny a pound ride in south Texas at the age of 10. No longer need the faster planes or the older planes I flew when younger. Now just something like a Sonex to enjoy an occasional $100 plus hamburger run. LOL
Congrats on your new airplane and getting back in the cockpit!!! I've been flying 35+ years and love it! Each flight is like the first time! They are going to have to pry the yoke from my cold dead hands!! 😁
Good stuff!
This guy is a genius. Jimmy, put him on payroll. I want to apprentice with him too.
I wanted to hear those engines go Vroom Vroom Vroom. Now I have to wait until next video 😛
It kicks in at 33.001 hours.
Another great video! Sold my PA-28-140 when hangars where torn down at KSDL…hope another a/c is in my future. See ya at Oshkosh?
Oh yeah! With Mighty Mouse!
I enjoy watching your videos. Thank you for posting
BFO" stands for "beatfrequency oscillator" and what it does is to generate an audio tone to let youidentify beacons that identify themselves using interrupted-carrier keying. This featureis is seldom used in the United States except for a few marine beacons, but can be veryuseful when flying in other parts of the world.
37:18- Wow, an elizator (elevator + lizard)! You don't see one of those every day!
And now more seriously, really, really beautiful plane (almost like a winged mobile home when it comes to the interior) that does deserve to be back in the air. I do hope that everything goes well. Good luck with it.
Prop sync was basically used for noise lowering (Prop Noise)
Yep, that's a Real Expert,
Love the content man!
Thanks so much! enjoy!
Hey, look at that beautiful 1946 Luscombe in the back there. Been sitting since 2013 - tragic.
Hello Jimmy, love all your videos thank you so much! Question? If you were to start today with your discovery flight and after your discovery flight what economic airplane you buy taking in consideration that your goal is to become a corporate pilot? Thank you
Jim is like a kid in a candy store :)
You guys are at my old airport! Used to have one of those homes on the runway. Good old UDD.
That radar is really old style it looks I’ll show the cloud/ precipitation only right after the sweep. They are really affective.
The prop synch will really just make it more comfortable noice wise. That’s the first thing a pilot will do on the first power back during climb.
You got my vote
Uh oh, already the directors cup... this can't be good. lol
hahaha, working on lots of stuff in the background :)
I absolutely love the content bro I'm about to start school at the Spartan College of aeronautics in Tulsa for aviation technology mechanic on 17 Nov so I'm living and breathing all things like this and I plan to do the same thing your doing in this video very soon. God bless and much love.
I got my commercial training at Spartan back in the 60's,