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Great project plane. Would go for all out REVAMP. Including the gear door mod (removing them), VITATOE IO550TN with HARTZELL 81" SCIMITAR PROP, GARMIN G500TXI+GFC500 autopilot.
Nice, we have a T210N and it has been great. 650 hours in 2 years with only 1 mechanical problem other than routine maintenance. They really shine in the teens, we get around 190 knots true at 17000 feet, and 170 at 12000 or so. Be careful leaning purely off the TIT, it doesn't necessarily peak at the same time as the cylinders, at least ours doesn't.
It's like a little mini van. Love the altitude capability, too. I can't wait to see it buffed up. Leave the seats, they'll be fine, too. Thanks for posting. 😊
My family owned 732GT from new in 1976 until 2012. This plane did it all for us taking our family of five to the West coast from our base at PDK and to the Bahamas and New England. Ours was normally aspirated and with GAMI injectors saw 160 knots on 12.5 GPH. The 210 is very stable for IFR flying and we found ours to be very reliable. Let me know if you are interested in selling. Thanks for the memories!
Heck yeah Jeffrey & Christian!!! I'm very excited to see the third Cessna 210 that you own now, and the newest. It has a lot of awesome features and additions ngl.
Awesome trip! You score another terrific buy...take a profit on it and never look back! Thanks for keeping Christian out of hand cuffs this trip! Be safe out there!
Hi guys, nice plane! I’d put any money into the interior and upgrades to the panel. The exterior doesn’t look bad, probably a good wash, polish, paint touch up and ceramic coating and man, she’ll be looking good. 🇺🇸
Guys, You did good. I have a few comments. The bonanza is a low wing and no way does the bonanza ride better than the 210. Did you ever see a bird with low wings. The stability of the 210 is fantastic. I had a T-210M and currently own my 3rd 210 and is a P-210N ( pressurized )......which I have owned for 28 years and will probably be selling soon. Love not needing the oxygen masks at high altitudes. The 210 family are work horses. I think your paint will be fine with some touch-up and detailed. Looks like the left main gear door needs some minor adjustment so it completely closes, or tweek it slightly. I fly ROP and true around 180 knots in the mid teens. Have fun and enjoy.
My cousin had a C210 (not sure if it was NA or Turbo) based out of FFZ a number of years ago... He sold it to a new owner where it went to Mexico, and as far as he knows (or maybe doesn't WANT to know) it never flew again... Yes, the Feds DO watch those heavy-hauling planes, as you found out going out-bound...
T210L is a great plane. I actually picked mine up from Elk City a few years ago. I also run mine at 27.5/2300 and usually see 155-160knts at 13-13.5gph.
Love the 210. Did survey all over the country in one for a year. Even went up to FL210 in one over the Rockies for a photo mission. Beast of an airplane.
We own a C210L - normally aspirated, and it's a fun plane to fly. Would recommend taking the gear doors off - there have been incidents in the past with those being the main culprit for gear up landings. And you won't suffer from parasitic drag either because the location of the wheels are aft enough that the air wraps past the wheel wells.
OMG, you boys both look so good with haircuts...oh another plane, I almost didn't notice! Dang, that was a long day.....I like the Bonanza for style and flying joy....burn that Avgas!
Great plane. I might be biased but I only flew a Cessna 172 for my few hrs of training. I think they are so big brand and been around forever for a reason. Wish I could work with you gentleman. But my short comings are many. Boohoo me. lol. The paint for 210 just needs touch up and bluff. Original paint is nice. Interior looks ok. If me. Such a great platform I would spruce up the inside with new and maybe some upgrades on instruments. Really up the planes worth and or ones personal comfort. Of course I get it. Open that bag things get expensive quickly. Appreciate you all. God bless
From 69 on when they decreased the wing dihedral they added rudder/aileron interconnect..that's the trade off for the awesome stability...I used to keep al my maintenance items..luggage and anything else I had to carry back in the baggage compartment to get the cg moved back and reduce elevator forces...looks like a great xcountry addition..I'd hang onto it
Rockin’ the LSC Tee. No way. Chicago guy here-big fan of you both and Alex. ATP Typed L382 Hercules. Subscribed to both channels. Way to go. Retired in Jax, Fl. Old guys watch too.
If you press nav 2x on the 55x, it’ll put you into gpss steering. That’s assuming it’s hooked up to the Garmin 325 or whatever it’s called. Also if the 55x has a difficult time leveling off and maintaining altitude, I find changing it to vs mode and setting it to 0 vs is a lot better. Once it stabilizes you can put it in alt mode. It’s a great ap that’ll do approaches to minimums with no problems. Just have to have self awareness of airspeed whenever you set it to climb or descend. It’s the only feature it lacks is ias mode imo.
We own a sister ship 732GH since 2017. I don't think of it as a minivan, it's more monster truck and Italian sports car combined. We regularly go into the FLs with it, best GS was 237kts! Be very careful LOP, big bore Continentals are temperamental as a super-model. Treat them well, and they'll treat you back well. Think of the fuel as coolant fluid in addition to go juice.
I would hang on to it! Additionally, just polish up the outside and clean the inside, boom! Still looks nice. Instrumentation needs upgrade, the priority for any investment in the aircraft. IMO
The airspace restrictions in NM are for missile launches. You don't wanna be anywhere near those restricted areas. they close the highways for the launches as well.
4 blade SCIMITAR MT-PROPELLER with DEICE. G500TXi, GFC500-G5 COMBO, GTN750Xi/650Xi combo, TXi EIS. PRECISE FLIGHT SPEEDBRAKES, VITATOE IO550TN CONVERSION, R-STOL is what I would do. Add the FLINT AERO TIP TANKS. Whelen ALL LED conversion.
Good timing on this video. My friend and I are in the market for that model. And, I would just hire a really good detailer to restore the existing paint and leave it at that. A good detailer will get that thing like new.
Jeff, I owned a 1977 T210M bought new in early 1978. Put 1200 hours on it over 12 years. It was essentially bullet proof over its life even with ARC 400 radios. A slightly different engine than the L model, 310 hp, with higher mp. Easy 185 kts at about 12,000' at 65%, but once saw 310 kts GS (65%) on a trip from MRY to BUR at 17,500. We used careful engine mgnt during its entire life and no cylinders. First thing I noticed on your bird was your left rear gear door was a bit droopy. What kind of exhaust are you running? Knisley exhaust is worth it. What was you IAS at 12K, 16K and power setting?
Excellent visibility vs a Bonanza A36, with the Cessna high wing. Not a selling point for everyone but some will like it just because of that. Great if you have little ones.
This man needs his license and IFR already!! Get it done, you would have had it by now if you would just get started!! I love the buying videos but get legal to fly them on your own. 6 months max you will be PPL licensed and ready to roll.
Great plane! Congrats! We had a T210L, R and finally an N. Absolute workhorses and fast. My $.02; paint touch ups, paint correction and ceramic (maybe new decals). Interior looks pretty good, just needs some love. Maybe some upgraded avionics (maybe) and new panel to clean it up a bit... Congrats again!
With the turbo check the POH for how long to idle the engine before shutdown. The turbine section needs time to cool down before shut down so you don’t coke the oil in the turbos bearings.
Well all I can is determination, good feel and some balls in business. Good for all of you. Onward 🌈 to great times and more videos. Stay well, safe and as usual.
Awesome trip awesome plane! Still like the Cherokee 235 better..club seating and overall looks however the performance with the centurion turbo 210 is banging and with the lean to peak and Garmin 375 autopilot is excellent 🛩️🇺🇸🙌🏼
if you are basein that on the fact they ALWAYS HAVE A CFI with them, well *II* would too, having enuf money to HIRE A CFI to get the ''training time in type'' is a good thing when pickin up a plane sight unseen and watnot... eh, they are flying all kinds of airplanes, why does it matter if they are proerly licensed or not, they are gettin hours in type w/training... soooo win/win in my opinion ;)
With a turbo you should let it idle for 4-5 minutes when you land because if you come with the turbo you can cook the oil in turbo it causes cokeing the oil being Cooke inside that red hot turbo .
Curious to what you were planning to do with that NASA F16 jet would love to see it restored, only wondering bc I recently watched a HeavyDSparks video and he was inquiring about cool/rare things, would love to see a collab or something. Just a random thought though great video btw
Two points: When you ask an approach control for flight following to an airport outside of their airspace the approach computer has to communicate with the center computer to generate a code. When I worked @ Bay approach (1996-2002) it could take a minute or so for this to happen. After moving to NORCAL this was greatly reduced as we owned so much airspace. With regards to White Sands: The controllers are trained to keep everyone out of the restricted area-PERIOD! I was jumpseating on America West (remember them?) from Lubbock to Phoenix one Sunday morning. The crew commented about the restricted area and I told them to ask if they could fly through it. The controller's initial response was "Unable" but 30 seconds later came back with a turn and a clearance through the restricted area and a clearance direct to a navaid on the west side. The crew commented on how quiet it was going through the restricted area. We arrived in Phoenix nearly 40 minutes early and had to wait for our gate. The captain said he'd never do THAT again!
I've got the T210A in MSFS. Does that count? :D The one thing I have noticed about it is that it feels like you're nose-up on the ground, making it a bit of a challenge to taxi. Other than that, it's a solid (virtual) bird.
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Great plane! As a commercial airline guy I’ve been looking for one of these as my family plane. Where did you buy it and for how much?
Great project plane. Would go for all out REVAMP. Including the gear door mod (removing them), VITATOE IO550TN with HARTZELL 81" SCIMITAR PROP, GARMIN G500TXI+GFC500 autopilot.
@@pilot2588believe they said 150K. It is what I call a PROJECT aircraft.
What is the best way to contact you guys? Can't find an email address. THANSK!
Nice, we have a T210N and it has been great. 650 hours in 2 years with only 1 mechanical problem other than routine maintenance. They really shine in the teens, we get around 190 knots true at 17000 feet, and 170 at 12000 or so. Be careful leaning purely off the TIT, it doesn't necessarily peak at the same time as the cylinders, at least ours doesn't.
It's like a little mini van. Love the altitude capability, too. I can't wait to see it buffed up. Leave the seats, they'll be fine, too. Thanks for posting. 😊
You know its a good day when jr aviation posted
Letssss gooooooooo
This is quickly becoming one of my favorite style of video. Keep em coming
Thanks! Will do!
A little soap and water would make the interior look brand new. And yes! A great detailing should do the job. Best of luck, God bless
I’m saying the same thing.
New carpet and detailing first impression is very good Thumbs up 👍
My family owned 732GT from new in 1976 until 2012. This plane did it all for us taking our family of five to the West coast from our base at PDK and to the Bahamas and New England. Ours was normally aspirated and with GAMI injectors saw 160 knots on 12.5 GPH. The 210 is very stable for IFR flying and we found ours to be very reliable. Let me know if you are interested in selling. Thanks for the memories!
Heck yeah Jeffrey & Christian!!! I'm very excited to see the third Cessna 210 that you own now, and the newest. It has a lot of awesome features and additions ngl.
Brilliant trip guys, well done, you guys know your stuff for youngsters, so cool to see guys your ages doing stuff like this
You’re flying around White Sands Missile Range. :)
Awesome trip! You score another terrific buy...take a profit on it and never look back! Thanks for keeping Christian out of hand cuffs this trip! Be safe out there!
Thanks Jon!
Nice Find ! One of my favorite Planes. Errr another one of my favorites 😂
Hi guys, nice plane! I’d put any money into the interior and upgrades to the panel. The exterior doesn’t look bad, probably a good wash, polish, paint touch up and ceramic coating and man, she’ll be looking good. 🇺🇸
Guys, You did good. I have a few comments. The bonanza is a low wing and no way does the bonanza ride better than the 210. Did you ever see a bird with low wings. The stability of the 210 is fantastic. I had a T-210M and currently own my 3rd 210 and is a P-210N ( pressurized )......which I have owned for 28 years and will probably be selling soon. Love not needing the oxygen masks at high altitudes. The 210 family are work horses. I think your paint will be fine with some touch-up and detailed. Looks like the left main gear door needs some minor adjustment so it completely closes, or tweek it slightly. I fly ROP and true around 180 knots in the mid teens. Have fun and enjoy.
Fix the 210 up! Paint, interior, update avionics, the whole works! It’s a great plane, you’ll be glad you did!!!
Wow. Just wow! Seems to be a great buy. One always rolls the dice in a sight unseen purchase. You’ve won the table; congratulations.
My cousin had a C210 (not sure if it was NA or Turbo) based out of FFZ a number of years ago... He sold it to a new owner where it went to Mexico, and as far as he knows (or maybe doesn't WANT to know) it never flew again... Yes, the Feds DO watch those heavy-hauling planes, as you found out going out-bound...
T210L is a great plane. I actually picked mine up from Elk City a few years ago. I also run mine at 27.5/2300 and usually see 155-160knts at 13-13.5gph.
Just an observation...Take a look at your shutdown checklist as you might want to turn off avionics prior to shutting off engine
Love the 210. Did survey all over the country in one for a year. Even went up to FL210 in one over the Rockies for a photo mission. Beast of an airplane.
Big fan fan of you two brothers 😊
You guys are living the life. So happy for you two👍🏼
We own a C210L - normally aspirated, and it's a fun plane to fly. Would recommend taking the gear doors off - there have been incidents in the past with those being the main culprit for gear up landings. And you won't suffer from parasitic drag either because the location of the wheels are aft enough that the air wraps past the wheel wells.
OMG, you boys both look so good with haircuts...oh another plane, I almost didn't notice! Dang, that was a long day.....I like the Bonanza for style and flying joy....burn that Avgas!
Great plane. I might be biased but I only flew a Cessna 172 for my few hrs of training. I think they are so big brand and been around forever for a reason. Wish I could work with you gentleman. But my short comings are many. Boohoo me. lol. The paint for 210 just needs touch up and bluff. Original paint is nice. Interior looks ok. If me. Such a great platform I would spruce up the inside with new and maybe some upgrades on instruments. Really up the planes worth and or ones personal comfort. Of course I get it. Open that bag things get expensive quickly. Appreciate you all. God bless
From 69 on when they decreased the wing dihedral they added rudder/aileron interconnect..that's the trade off for the awesome stability...I used to keep al my maintenance items..luggage and anything else I had to carry back in the baggage compartment to get the cg moved back and reduce elevator forces...looks like a great xcountry addition..I'd hang onto it
I used to work in that hangar row at LEMAC aviation, I was surprised when you said you were landing at falcon Field!
I'd detail it and just fly it as is. Another great buy for you guys! Good job Jeff and Chris.
Heck yeah, that would be the best plane for traveling on any budget. I’d love to own something similar!
Rockin’ the LSC Tee. No way. Chicago guy here-big fan of you both and Alex. ATP Typed L382 Hercules. Subscribed to both channels. Way to go. Retired in Jax, Fl. Old guys watch too.
Oh heck yea! Glad someone noticed!
I’ve flown both models years ago and the P-210 was my favorite
If you press nav 2x on the 55x, it’ll put you into gpss steering. That’s assuming it’s hooked up to the Garmin 325 or whatever it’s called. Also if the 55x has a difficult time leveling off and maintaining altitude, I find changing it to vs mode and setting it to 0 vs is a lot better. Once it stabilizes you can put it in alt mode. It’s a great ap that’ll do approaches to minimums with no problems. Just have to have self awareness of airspeed whenever you set it to climb or descend. It’s the only feature it lacks is ias mode imo.
Great comment! We definitely like the 55X!
That KNS80 was the bomb back in the day.
I'll be dipped! As much time as I spent in Elk City, OK over the years, I had no idea they had such a nice airstrip.
Love the 210...my Dad owned one. Heavy hauler AND a speed demon. 2nd only to the Skymaster!
Love the longer videos. Great purchase.
Love the LSC shirt, he has such a good channel!!
Keep this great plane, I used to fly them
Awesome. Wish I was flying. Thanks for the content. This is a great plane.😊
We own a sister ship 732GH since 2017. I don't think of it as a minivan, it's more monster truck and Italian sports car combined. We regularly go into the FLs with it, best GS was 237kts!
Be very careful LOP, big bore Continentals are temperamental as a super-model. Treat them well, and they'll treat you back well. Think of the fuel as coolant fluid in addition to go juice.
Sweet new ride! Loved seeing this video and watching you handle a more complex engine management protocol. Looking forward to the next one!
More to come!
It may not be new, pretty and shiny but it sure has a lot of capability!👍
I would hang on to it! Additionally, just polish up the outside and clean the inside, boom! Still looks nice. Instrumentation needs upgrade, the priority for any investment in the aircraft. IMO
Best plane for 150k no doubt ✅
facts
Would think you have enough subs not to comment on your own video lol
@@JRAviationwhy u having a conversation with yourself u whopper 😂
@@Aaron_ryd hahahaha i was eondering that too
The airspace restrictions in NM are for missile launches. You don't wanna be anywhere near those restricted areas. they close the highways for the launches as well.
Called it! Go mighty centurion.
4 blade SCIMITAR MT-PROPELLER with DEICE. G500TXi, GFC500-G5 COMBO, GTN750Xi/650Xi combo, TXi EIS. PRECISE FLIGHT SPEEDBRAKES, VITATOE IO550TN CONVERSION, R-STOL is what I would do. Add the FLINT AERO TIP TANKS. Whelen ALL LED conversion.
Good timing on this video. My friend and I are in the market for that model. And, I would just hire a really good detailer to restore the existing paint and leave it at that. A good detailer will get that thing like new.
Come buy this one, the detail turned out nicely and the plane is solid all the way around. JRgarage22@gmail.com.
Nice crew and Great 210
Thanks 👍
Jeff, I owned a 1977 T210M bought new in early 1978. Put 1200 hours on it over 12 years. It was essentially bullet proof over its life even with ARC 400 radios. A slightly different engine than the L model, 310 hp, with higher mp. Easy 185 kts at about 12,000' at 65%, but once saw 310 kts GS (65%) on a trip from MRY to BUR at 17,500. We used careful engine mgnt during its entire life and no cylinders. First thing I noticed on your bird was your left rear gear door was a bit droopy. What kind of exhaust are you running? Knisley exhaust is worth it.
What was you IAS at 12K, 16K and power setting?
nice beast .. wish you bring up some Los pollos heramanos chicken 😅😂😂😂
Excellent visibility vs a Bonanza A36, with the Cessna high wing. Not a selling point for everyone but some will like it just because of that. Great if you have little ones.
Dude down by me! Awesome hope to see you in michigan more! We have some beautiful land up in mid michigan through the UP.
This man needs his license and IFR already!! Get it done, you would have had it by now if you would just get started!! I love the buying videos but get legal to fly them on your own. 6 months max you will be PPL licensed and ready to roll.
Prob has medical reason
KOEB, great airport, flown in there many times being from WMU!
Great plane! Congrats! We had a T210L, R and finally an N. Absolute workhorses and fast. My $.02; paint touch ups, paint correction and ceramic (maybe new decals). Interior looks pretty good, just needs some love. Maybe some upgraded avionics (maybe) and new panel to clean it up a bit... Congrats again!
Another great deal. I liked you were able to fly at 16500 for a while. That was cool.
I cannot believe neither of you have your pilot's license yet... What gives?
Medical disqualification likely. Has to be. No excuse otherwise.
Or they’ve done the hours but haven’t practice for the check ride/recoveries. Makes no sense to me.
Just wondering what you guys doing with all airplanes that you bought,
Fixing and resalinng?
With the turbo check the POH for how long to idle the engine before shutdown. The turbine section needs time to cool down before shut down so you don’t coke the oil in the turbos bearings.
Yes we let it run a few minutes
@@JRAviation Excellent
Well all I can is determination, good feel and some balls in business. Good for all of you. Onward 🌈 to great times and more videos. Stay well, safe and as usual.
It is the missile range! You can ask if it is open! A space Shuttle landed there!
Man thats my home airport! I wish i would have been there to see yall!
Great idea for a video. Fly this 210 to Australia and give it to me 😂
Awesome trip awesome plane! Still like the Cherokee 235 better..club seating and overall looks however the performance with the centurion turbo 210 is banging and with the lean to peak and Garmin 375 autopilot is excellent 🛩️🇺🇸🙌🏼
Kirkland AFB does lots of training with C-130J aircraft with air drops all over central NM.
You guys ever gonna get your license?
Yeah I don’t get it …why aren’t they licensed yet?
@@flyboy98cuz they’re too busy making money. A good distraction to have.
if you are basein that on the fact they ALWAYS HAVE A CFI with them, well *II* would too, having enuf money to HIRE A CFI to get the ''training time in type'' is a good thing when pickin up a plane sight unseen and watnot... eh, they are flying all kinds of airplanes, why does it matter if they are proerly licensed or not, they are gettin hours in type w/training... soooo win/win in my opinion ;)
I ask this about every epsiode but unfortunately they never answer
Looks like it might have been a good buy, interior might need a refresh
But it’s in pretty good shape!!
19:39 Morton, TX
Leave the Cessna as it is, it cool looking and interior is great.
Right on !! I'm Two weeks late to the upload
Enjoyed the flight!
With a turbo you should let it idle for 4-5 minutes when you land because if you come with the turbo you can cook the oil in turbo it causes cokeing the oil being Cooke inside that red hot turbo .
Curious to what you were planning to do with that NASA F16 jet would love to see it restored, only wondering bc I recently watched a HeavyDSparks video and he was inquiring about cool/rare things, would love to see a collab or something. Just a random thought though great video btw
Two points: When you ask an approach control for flight following to an airport outside of their airspace the approach computer has to communicate with the center computer to generate a code. When I worked @ Bay approach (1996-2002) it could take a minute or so for this to happen. After moving to NORCAL this was greatly reduced as we owned so much airspace.
With regards to White Sands: The controllers are trained to keep everyone out of the restricted area-PERIOD! I was jumpseating on America West (remember them?) from Lubbock to Phoenix one Sunday morning. The crew commented about the restricted area and I told them to ask if they could fly through it. The controller's initial response was "Unable" but 30 seconds later came back with a turn and a clearance through the restricted area and a clearance direct to a navaid on the west side. The crew commented on how quiet it was going through the restricted area. We arrived in Phoenix nearly 40 minutes early and had to wait for our gate. The captain said he'd never do THAT again!
White sands N.M among other restricted areas LOL. Nice bird!
Seat covers and some paint touchup. Maybe??
Wanna see more from the Citation soon again!
Great Experience
Not all useable fuel. An important distinction 2 student pilots should know
Great lakes approach ^_^
Just out of annual but the left MLG door doesn’t close tight? Hmmm.
KNS 80 King RNAV. Classic.
Please get your licenses lol
Are you guys getting close to getting your pilots license?
LOL you need to get Alex his PPL now, then he'll have to start "Legit Aviation"
Best comment 😂
Should put the additive first then oil.
Never been in a plane but I respect it all .
Get it wrapped in traditional Cessna color scheme.
Thanks!
Ever gonna own up to a certificate? 😂
What airport did the plane come out of in MI? Looks like a nice little airport cafe.
I've got the T210A in MSFS. Does that count? :D
The one thing I have noticed about it is that it feels like you're nose-up on the ground, making it a bit of a challenge to taxi. Other than that, it's a solid (virtual) bird.
that looked like a nice relaxed flight do you guys still have the jet ?
Yes
Hell yes … great buy .. oil consumption ..?
basically none...
@@JRAviation I assume the wing attach casting pasted inspection…!!
What do these guys do with these airplanes? Flip them? Haven't watched this channel much.
I would add an intercooler retro fit
I'm sure the pic is just capable of cycling through those things himself without U leaning over the flight controls while he's Tryna club out
Morton, TX
Coldwater MI. Just flew there the other day for lunch.
Great restaurant!