2000 Mile Flight In Our Cherokee 235! (Busted By The COPS & DEA)
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Today we fly our 1964 Piper Cherokee 2000 miles across the country in just 2 days. We're flying it to Michigan to go pick up another plane (reveal coming soon). On the way, turns out we were being tracked by the Police and DEA. They "pulled us over" and had a word with us. We bought this plane sight unseen at auction and have flown it all around the country. Last video it did break down but ended up being a simple fix. This is one of the best single engine piston planes!
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Just a suggestion, please do not talk to a person doing a prefilght. They may find or miss something that may prevent or cause a failure.
That's part of my briefing. I tell passengers no interruptions, and sterile cockpit. I explain stuff first,even walk first timers around the plane, explaining things, but then the serious stuff begins with the actual uninterrupted preflight.
I agree. Only the PIC needs to talk. It was ridiculous trying to listen to the preflight.
@@davidduganne5939 I'm not even a student pilot, just a wannabe, and I know about the "sterile cockpit"
This is what happens when you have aviation youtubers that don't even have licenses. Focusing on the content instead of the flying. Hopefully they don't TNFlygirl themselves.
@ptdave123 these guys (running the channel) are not good pilots, they are not going to listen to you. Just watch these videos, I'm shocked they haven't crashed yet
What a complete waste of government resources. How much money did that cost the taxpayers? Way to go DEA. Did they get more drugs off the street? Just lazy policing!
This is the kind of content I'm here for. Some hitch-hiking in the dark, state trooper capers, WalMart tv dinners, borrowing cop cars for lunch and some flying. Awesome video boys!
I gotta say, that polished aluminum and paint is the best looking Cherokee I've ever seen. Very nice!
Sure go fly any chance you get but keep the priorities straight. You're not in the time building phase. You're in the learn how to fly phase. And that means lots of boring pattern work and maneuvers in addition to learning how to plan and execute cross countries. And you're definitely going to need a regular cfi to help you make progress and get you from phase to phase. You won't make much progress just flying with different random instructors. If you're actually serious about passing a checkride, quit being so impulsive, keep the one working plane you seem to have (appropriate for training at least) and train all the boring tedious stuff until you can solo and then take a checkride. Schedule it now so you will have pressure to focus and get it done. This channel will be infinitely more interesting if you guys start making real progress on your flying skills and then can fly planes on your own. You will have so much more insight into the flying you're doing and it will make for better stories.
"And you're definitely going to need a regular cfi to help you make progress and get you from phase to phase. You won't make much progress just flying with different random instructors." THIS! A THOUSAND TIMES THIS! Speaking from personal experience. "Real life," plus that issue caused it to take me FOUR YEARS to get my VFR PPL! Related note: If you're working with an actual flight school, make darn sure it's reputable and maybe even find out where the money behind it came from.
@@PensacolaOboist it took me 2.5 years with multiple stops because I lost motivation. It felt like I wasn't making progress. I had a regular CFI but he was very disorganized. There was no plan to help me finish. And I didn't know enough at that point to make a plan for myself. It took firing that CFI and studying the ACS thoroughly to generate a self training plan. Then I found another cfi to coach me through refining the training I had been doing on my own. This was in my own plane, which makes it much more challenging to get an organized plan since it's an unfamiliar plane to a CFI and outside their normal workflow at a flight school. Anyone who is going to train in their own plane has to really take the lead on their training. Make a plan and get a cfi who can help you execute it. Or tell you that it's a bad plan and actively help make a better one. IE: almost none of the cross country flying you're doing (the way you're doing it, at least) is going to prepare you to pass a checkride. Read the ACS. Seriously just start there.
@@danielreuter2565 I totally feel your pain. I didn't lose motivation but I had to deal with work, COVID, and a couple minor medical things that I had to clear up with the FAA. Plus, I lost my original flight school to Hurricane Sally! I signed up with another school that I soon discovered had a suspiciously high attrition rate with CFIs and I was in the same boat as you, twisting in the wind with no idea what to do. I knew so little... and nobody was helping! Cutting out a lot of boring details, I finally got over the PPL finish line after a former employee of my 2nd school put me in touch with a Chief CFI of another much more reputable school who then handed me off to a freelance CFI friend of his who specialized in "fixing" students in my (our) situation.
Amen
@@danielreuter2565you nailed it! I love the videos but I had the same concerns about his flight training. I think it would be nice to know how his business does selling some of those planes and cars. Everyone loves a great barn find but how about selling them for a profit. Might just be RUclips revenue funding these excursions.
and that Piper Cherokee is beautiful with the polished aluminum.
Nothing funny about that! One of those yahoos could end one of yours life and they have qualified immunity. We saw how incompetent they were in Uvalde. All for what? Because you used your private pilots license! Their motto is pull guns and attack first ask questions later. They will say police safety but what about citizen safety?
Should have asked the State Troopers for a ride to the airport!
That’s the least they could have done!
when they had a vehicle available for transport to and from the airport they just learned about after the mishap
When looking for a rando place to land on an xc, look for University/College towns. Almost always have Uber, decent hotels and pizza delivery.
Good tip
We need more JR Aviation trips like this!!!!
Imagine getting pulled over in your car for no reason other than you’re driving across the country. What kind of probable cause is that? This is a police state. Not a free country any longer.
Orbison tune was a nice touch.
I was hoping someone would notice!
@@JRAviation difficult not to notice pretty woman :)
@@whiskeyskI was shocked that they didn’t know who Orbison was.
How nice the authorities wasted so many resources on a legit flight while allowing all the illegal crossings to come in unimpeded.
Its hard work, ignoring 50,000 fentanyl deaths.
Theatre. I’d file a complaint with DHS.
That’s complete garbage,
Seems like harassing by police I mean, this is still a free country I think 🤔, if it were me I wouldn’t be happy about the contact and the excuse and in the manner it was used! Ridiculous!
Just so you know, that area is famous for violating peoples constitutional rights.
19:31 And now you should be afraid of your government when they have no self-control. I would have told him we go talk to my lawyers and not giving them ID
😂😂😂😂😂🙄
That cop's story is crazy! Small town fun, lol. That 235 is pretty awesome. That second approach looked bumpy. Lunch looked delicious 😋
Thanks for watching!
So this is the second illegal search of a videographer, in West Texas by law enforcement, without cause. Time for someone to look into this BS
😂 you realize there was not even a search in this video right? Did you actually watch the video? Next time get a law degree from somewhere other than Facebook and you will learn what a search is.
I hope you will refrain from using GOD's name in vain ( 28:16 ) so I can continue to watch your videos.
Where's your warrant no warrant ok enjoy the civil rights case
Sounds to me like the DEA was all about violating your rights. How can they raid your plane without evidence of probable cause or a search warrant. I would contact your attorney and let them have a conversation with the DEA about your rights being violated. The last thing I would also do is talk about it on RUclips. Let your lawyer do everything for you instead because you flying across country is not suspicious and nor is it any of the DEA’s business nor the Governments. We do not live in a police state.
When paint dries, the majority of the weight evaporates. So, if a gallon of fuel weighs 9 lbs, dried paint is probably closer to 4 lbs. So, if it takes three gallons, then about 12 lbs total when dry. Honestly, I would think that maintaining the shine of polished aluminum (though WAY cool!) is more of an issue than the weight saved.
Meanwhile, It's hard to do, but I really wish you could put the cops in their place and tell them to leave y'all alone without PC. This is harassment. Harder to defy their pseudo-authority as Feds, but still they need to stay within the bounds of the Constitution.
U seem pretty acceptable to having ur rights violated.
The cops in this country are crazy. They have too much info at their fingertips. This should never have happened.😢
Why? Having assisted in similar activities, tons of illegal contraband was seized- explosives, military equipment, drugs, trafficked sexually assaulted children. You don’t know what you have until you investigate.
12:16 You can buy used oxygen concentrators on the internet. When old people pass away, their family get rid of them for almost nothing.
You can buy oxygen bottles and fill them from the concentrators
Simply carrying a couple of oxygen bottles with mask, you could easily fly with your own supply
And since you're not an old person, you don't have to be breathing like 90% oxygen, I'm sure you could get some sort of a mixing valve, so that the oxygen was closer to sea level
I just looked it up, $100 for an oxygen concentrator that provides 8 l of 90% pure oxygen per minute
If you are talking about using low pressure oxygen bottles like those for aviation, you cannot fill them from a concentrator. One of the best concentrator out there only has an output pressure of 20 PSIG.
Glad you guys made it! Sounds like a heck of an adventure!
Apparently, TX police have nothing better to do. Just FYI, you are not obligated to speak to the police.
You guys are so smart turning around and stopping until the weather gets better, i dont ever wanna see you guys on piolet debrief. ❤
DAN GRYDER of DTSB .... put on his LANDING CHECKLIST : CHECK EQUAL BRAKE PEDDLE b4 touchdown.... if one side is smushy mushy or DIFFERENT REROUT TO AIRPORT THAT IS LONG ENUF THAT YOU DO NOT NEED TO USE YOUR BRAKES AND DECLARE SITUTUTATION (emergency?? up to u)
lookin forward to ridin along, even tho ummm DEA ?? LOL I guess when ya get a plane at auction it could have done all kinda stuff before you eh?
The Cherokee did great, but being targeted by law enforcement just shows how crazy our country has gotten. Glad you guys made it there safe, can't wait to see the new plane. Stay safe Jeff.
Going California to anywhere else the DEA will ramp check you to see if you have cargo. They did 15 years ago when I flew in California
@justinborysenko3885 true, but I believe the boys fly out of AZ
Just means they're doing their jobs.
flying near New/Mexico and or Texas, then heading up North will cause these triggers...
Yet borders wide open lol
I don't believe they had "Reasonable Articulable Suspicion" to stop you and question you.
You watch too many first amendment audit videos, this is a completely different ball game.
They don’t need it to talk to someone. And it also meets RAS. JR aviation also walked to the cops, not the other way around.
You don’t need RAS to talk to someone. They didn’t detain them or threaten them with arrest. Based on the video and story told by these guys they did what they should do and investigated their suspicions without stomping on anyone’s rights. I commend the officers for investigating instead of arresting.
only drug dealers or trafficers fly in at night.... lol have not seen what happened yet
Good thing you guys ate selling that plane because it sounds like that flag is going to be stay annoying for a bit
Next up, logging some time on the Citation? 🤔 definitely some FOMO tracking you guys while in CJ4 ground school
Why are you so obsessed with ROP vs LOP? Pay more attention to learning to fly the plane. That’s way more important than saving a gallon of gas.
Engine management/health is incredibly important.
You haven't owned that airplane very long. BUT, aircraft have histories.... Some rather notorious... A charter company I flew for back in the 80's had a 401 that had the O-Fish-AL "Waterbeds R US" modification taps on the fuel system... It was able to Fly to Columbia without an issue. The government had a long long history of that airplane suspected of drug hauling. One of our pilots was flying a Canadian Fishing Charter and had a nice long conversation with the Feds. Your N-Number may have flags on it... Whenever it moves things will light up. Also, the PIC on flight plans gets "Historic" right along with the aircraft... Living and basing so close to the Mexican Border won't help you much that's for sure.
Looks great polished. I work as a Weights Engineer. When I was on C-130 the painters said they wanted to rub back the paint and add another coat as it had come out a bit orange peely. Just for the fuselage this added 80 lbs. So several coats of paint including primer would definitely double digit lbs.
Cops 99% boredom 1 % excitement nothing is worse than a bored cop . They dif dont have a life or better things to do
They are always looking for that BIG bust that makes the news.
Hi Texas state troopers. Y’all look pretty goofy right about now.😂😂
9:32 not a life hack but a good piece of advice. I saw a pilot debrief with a fatal crash of a helicopter the pilot had lost their iPad underneath the pedals. It got stuck and they couldn't pull it. Just something you might want to be careful about when you set your iPad on your lap. He couldn't reach the iPad because of the tight quarters of the cockpit. I'd recommend you lanyard if you're going to leave it loose especially if you hit turbulence and you lose it. Unfortunately they didn't survive.
How can anyone wear anything other than wrap around sunglasses? The glare coming in from the side is impossibly annoying.
Why Christian don't rep the Jr aviation gear?
Awesome episode guys. Way to go Christian on nailing the landing. My guess is a Beechcraft Bonanza A36TC..?
Agreed...prolly an A36.
American cops.
Guilty until proven guilty.
Pretty much 😂
How is it I am just now finding your channel?? I'm also based out of KFFZ with my RV-7A. Would love a chance to meet you guys sometime!
DO NOT LEAN IN THE CLIMB WITH NO ENGINE MONITOR! YOUR CHT'S WILL BE TOO HIGH!!
We just did a little bit only above 5k feet where is cooler, but you’re right, better safe than sorry with no CHT/engine monitor.
Dried paint does not weigh, but a fraction of what the components are in the pre-application. Do you have an evaporation process that leaves you with probably no more than 7 pounds of dried paint on an airplane, especially Piper
You guys got introduced to one of the greatest singers of all time
I guess it was suspicious because you flew across the country and near the border 😅😅😅
You might forget you live in a police state but the cops don't
I’m pretty sure you guys are not that naive that you think it’s unusual that the activity that you’ve just done is not slightly suspicious as a grown-up. You would be surprised if the ATC and other authorities were not curious on what you were doing especially having landed, hang around in the dark being picked up by a vehicle the authorities were doing their job and wondering what you were up to
let’s be honest most light aircraft go up they fly around the same little bit and then the land back normally either a neighbouring airfield or the same one don’t normally do, cross-country flights
25:08 🤯 that’s my Cherokee! 😂
Small world!
So they were spending all those resources watching you and didn't offer you a ride? I've had that. Cop pulls up, asks if everything is ok, can I see the plane? I'm always up for showing the plane to people so "sure!" Then I ask, hey, where can I get some decent food? And can you give me a ride? No Ubers here. Hasn't failed yet.
I live 150 mi south of Vernon. It’s remote. I worked in an out of there many years ago. Great story guys! Safe travels.
WOW just a smidge over from Mattoon is the Capital Springfield Illinois. Everything including the 16th President's resting place. Huge 11k runway maybe on the return lol. Just remember Onward great flying great times.
I visited Lincolns Tomb while in Springfield my gf was from Springfield but had never been
Remember, the best thing about America is the freedom, paid for with persistent paranoia and surveillance.
Um, yeah. Everywhere except the Southern Border, right?
Your CFI should insist that you are in the left seat. It doesn't matter that he hasn't flown that airplane before.
Who,else...be honest.....,thought Angry Cops was actually going to be in the video. I feel,.....scammed
DAMN I love your polished 235! That is the plane I want to move up to once I get my instrument rating.
Well, if the cops were into you that hard, they'd have gotten the info from the flight plan of who did the filing...
'You do have to offer some personal info on a flight plan, don't you?'
Obvious the cops didn't find any drugs... Just where DID you hide them anyway? LOL
Nice to have money.... Coming from us pilots that have a family and children moved out .
now can't get back into it because of struggling to deal with the insane prices.
It irks me about guys that don't get the basic training... And get their pilot's license first! They just go out buying aircraft one after another.. And need CFI in order to fly! Get your priorities straight! And get your training done! Then galavant around the country buying up all the deals that the rest of us are looking for and adding to the insane retail price!
Fulton is a cool small town. Winston Churchill once visited there with Harry Truman. There is a Churchill museum in town. Did you stop for fuel at Jeff City? My brother flies a Lear 45 out of Jeff City. There is a great restaurant there as well.
My 210 was searched; Dog , everything in cabin tossed. The gas guy at FBO informed me. I was never contacted by LEO.
Rules fom the not me!
The trooper caper was the dumbest police work I've ever witnessed. Especially with DEA involvement. A simple media search and one local agent to your area doing 30 minutes of leg work would have stopped the stupid before it started. Not everything can be solved on a computer screen. They are only as smart as the men who programmed them lol. Good luck guys. Heres hoping for clear skies and tailwinds on the return trip ! Good luck. Oh the new plane? Yea i would know that sharp tail on that ac anywhere
I will take it. I live in CA. Just got my PPL. PS not a good idea to test your bladder. You can end up with an infection.
Guys you are ridiculous, telling and selling us, to make progress in flying while the cfi does all the work. You still can’t land the plane after such a long time, doing this. Please don’t fool us and yourself. Take a real flight school, take it serious and get your license not with almost only travel flying by cfi. Will help you making serious progress. This here is pure show. The content is nice, charming, funny, the videos make sense. But it’s about time to get serious with your license. Hard to believe, you guys seriously try to make pilots out of you guys. 😊
That thing is gorgeous. I'd love to see that paint on one of the planes in MSFS.
So why do neither of you after all these years and countless airplanes not have your licenses? Can't be a financial constraint, can't be time, you guys do this for a living, unlikely that it's health... Tell us? No desire to fly?
Time… and I like buying / resurrecting planes more than I like studying how to actually fly them. We don’t do this for a living, just a fun thing in our limited free time.
@@JRAviation You seem more knowledgeable than I was in regards to engines when I got my private. It's not that difficult, get it done. Private at least. It seems like it'll help with logistics a lot.
@@JRAviation I figured it was a lack of desire to finish it. You two find more joy in the buy/build than the actual flying.
I did a cross country when I was their age in a J3 Cub with my pal I owned the Cub with .. Slept under the wing and called home collect..Remember that?? Did we get surveilled by the police? Um no. We got taken to town to get a meal .. Different times .
Just as well you didn't have any bulk cash for buying the next aircraft or you'd know all about civil asset forfeiture. Rural Texas is only slightly better than Mexico. They had no reason to stop you, they could find out who you are from the registration.
My question is, with that analog instrument panel, are you only using a cell phone for navigation, VOR hopping, or do you have hand held paper VFR sectionals in the aircraft to navigate?
If that guy's a CFI, why not have him be in the right seat and let the guy who needs time fly in the left seat? Ah, he answered but with 'hundreds of hors' and CFI...geez, little bug smasher.
On August 17 I was at a small air show at Coles County Airport Mattoon, IL. It is about 25 miles south of where I live.
the real question is how any of these guys don't have their ticket?? all the planes.. all the time.. access to CFIs.. fuel.. aircraft.. money... what could hold up a 40 hour requirement?? they don't seem to be particularly stupid... passing a written, checkride, flying off a few hours.. boom.. you are licensed.. a trained monkey could do it.. for these guys, it's been literally years.. and these guys are still hauling around various cfi's to get their purchases home and ferried around.. why, if they are "building time", is he sitting right seat.. why isn't he flying more? i see him working th radios some.. calculating fuel burns, etc.. but hardly ever see him handling a yoke? shooting an approach? pattern work? at what point do we man up and fly?? and when you are getting your PPL, x-country time is great... but hours at cruise isn't getting him the experience he needs to be proficient when it matters.. i have to question their entire training path.. if they are struggling to demonstrate airmanship, maybe they shouldn't be flying? is that it? i can only speculate, but to think that average guys with what seems like at least average capabilities.. maybe above.. why is it taking them forever to get licensed? why would they even want to delay? makes no sense... unless... well... i won't speculate.. i like the kids, but it makes me wonder why... since on YT you only get the parts they show.. maybe they are choosing to hide why they haven't just got the basics covered.. with their resources.. they should all be at least private/instrument.. if not commercial, ME/I.. seriously.. WTaF?
If I knew you weren’t gonna show us the new plane, I wouldn’t have watched your video. I was going to subscribe but now I’m not!
If they were watching you....At least they could have offered you a ride, instead of spending money for the Van. 😎😎
Unpainted vs painted B-17 study results done by the Army Air Corp during WWII. Watch at 4:56 in the video. B-17 Bomber Paint Vs No Paint, Unexpected Results
Feds hassled me every time i brought an Apache racing boat from Miami to Northern Ohio. DEA has nothing better to do.
Since you were so enamored with the 210 that was flying out of that middle airport, I'm guessing it's a 210
You guys. Living the dream! 😂😂
I think air travel is the future of transportation. At some point, some super smart entrepreneur will find a way to make it more affordable and sustainable and more people will travel by air, have deliveries made by drones or other craft. Electric powered drones for short term travel and delivery.
this s a lawsuit. You have a duty to put the government in their place. They have no right to harass, kidnap, and attack you for no reason.
Vernon, TX is the home town of Lee Harvey Oswald’s mother. I can’t believe they don’t advertise that.
When you leave the borders wide open you have to treat everyone here like a criminal. This will be fixed sooner than you probably think. You should have at least told the troopers they should drive you back to the airport.
That's awful. sorry you had to go through that!
So they literally told you they would have "raided" you, if they had more people, just because they though the flight was "unusual"??
not really cool, imo. but if you are ok with them doing that to you, then, no harm no foul, i suppose. 😅
You should just have said you are with the CIA with a straight face :) it might technically be a felony but who's counting.
Isn't the plane registered in your name? they should have done a tiny bit of homework
BEAUTIFUL PLANE! BUT THE COCKPIT SEEMS A BIT CRAMPED, BUT THEN AGAIN, WHO CARES WHEN YOURE FLYING?
Original Burger King in Mattoon and they have merchandise available ate there a few times while we closed JC Penney
What are these guys doing for all this money? They don't have enough subscribers to pay for all these planes.
I used to live in Columbia, MO but I worked at the nuclear plant in Fulton.
21:57 wow you really outed them on that one.. lol I would have kept this one to yourselves and laughed about it. Not told the whole world. 😵💫
New plane, 185 Skywagon?
Mattoon, IL (MTO) is where I’m doing my lessons now! How cool!
That can't be legal that they can just swarm any plane they want just because of where it flies without any other reasoning.
You should both be flying back to AZ with the new plane each of you in a plane. WTF?
You crossed thru my state I live in Peoria,IL KPIA is where I keep my 1960 beechcraft Debonair. Word of advice on the High alt it is pressure alt for the oxygen. I found that out the hard way flying out west at 9,500 My pulse ox got down to 67. I was some where over texas. I figured out the pressure alt for oxygen from local pilot out in new Mexico. Make sure you are carrying a pulse ox with you keep and Eye on it. It will sneak up on you and can bit you in the butt. I do have a portable oxygen system but I did not have it ready because I didn't think I needed it tell I was flying above 12,500 MSL. With the temp. out side I ran the numbers my pressure alt was 13,000. I was new to using the oxygen system. After that issue I will be using oxygen more often I see the benefits.
I think you might be getting density and pressure altitude mixed up. Safe oxygen levels do depend on pressure altitude not density altitude but pressure altitude is not affected by temperature.
This channel trips me out is this guy ever going to be a real pilot, I mean, what's up with all the plane buying with no pilots license
My Navy primary training was in a T-34 Mentor, similar to your Cherokee. I tried flying a 172, but with the over-wing and lift above me my landings were like a DC-10 with two-engines out. I much prefer sitting on top of the wing. Good on you guys and keep up the safe flying.
When you were over El Paso and you observed the restricted air space it was missile training sites in the desert. I was stationed at Ft. Bliss and it is the training base for Air Defense Missile systems so you would not want to be shot down. hahahaha
super chill.They arrested your guy for nothing Police thuggerie in action