That's why I don't believe in the death sentence. I understand how people believe that pedophiles and serial killers deserve death but the fact the innocent people can be put on death row terrifies me.
I believe Richard has said he left his family due to thinking they were not really his family but replaced by skrulls(Reptilians) but has since admitted he was wrong and just scared to be tried down. heres some of his conspiracy theorys on ancient aliens and the face o n mars. ruclips.net/user/results?search_query=Richard+Hoagland
@@reptilian2998 Quoting you: ""Why dad one the lottery and did something like this""!!! What are you saying? I can't even begin to understand your comment!!!
"He told me it was family issues with his wife and children." What kind of issues do you have with a NINE and a SIX YEAR OLD?? Bad enough to abandon your family, but to just disappear without a word, leaving them fearing what had happened to you. Whether you'd been taken against your will and are being held somewhere, or got caught up with some dangerous people. Whether you'd been murdered ... It's heartless.
There's always two sides to a story. Some people have a legitimate personality disorder and that may stem from traumatic experiences during childhood. It baffles me as well why parents abandon or alienate their kids but like I said there's two sides to every story. Just something to think about... Not that it justifies his actions but this narc could have done a world of damage if he didnt leave. Could have been the best scenerio for the family he left behind.
xxLaKalypsoxx exactly what I was thinking. It’s a terrible reflection of just how low modern societies have sunk. I do not believe humans have evolved much if at all. They simply have a new facade like savages in suits. Sad ☹️
@@frankboff1260 while its true that modern society has its flaws, to suggest that we aren't living in the best society ever is ignorant. In history murders, killings, and crimes were legal hell even encouraged and there wasn't any laws or people to enforce them. There were senseless genocides, barbaric stonings and beatings everyday. If someone was found out to have stolen property or cheated on their spouse then they would be dragged into the center of their village and the residents would all throw rocks at them and beat them to death. Nowadays we have a much more civilized and sensible way of solving problems, better morals, and respect for life.
"He can't stand to be in any one place, now he can't go anywhere. It tickles me a bit." I loved her response. So sweet but with the right amount of shade.
He didn't want to pay alimony or child support!! It's OBVIOUS. He wanted to leave his wife and kids and not accept any responsibility. He wasn't coerced. He wasn't mixed with bad people. He left cause he didn't care about his kids but only cared about his damn self. Shame.
Tyler Echardt that doesn’t mean there isn’t damage already done. I have a family friend who has extensive trauma from thinking her mother abandoned her, when really her mother was murdered by a serial murderer trucker.
A little update on this. He was convicted and served two years in jail. After getting out his second wife divorced him. In 2018 his first wife sued him for back child support in which the judge added the maximum interest of 18%. He was ordered to pay nearly two million. It's doubtful that they ever got a dime.
Yea. She won a Civil suit for $1.8mil. Just think, she would have saved her sons, her mother, & herself from hardship and heartache if she had just treated him better.
My mother left just like that when I was 3 years old and my sister was 1 years old. I never understood how a parent could just abandon their children like that and never wish to contact them. I understand having issues with your spouse but abandoning your children, I will never understand. I'm glad that after all the years this man's family got some closure on what happened to their father. It's been over 30 years since we last saw our mother. I heard she started a new life without us. I pray that wherever she is that God forgives her.
You all could have gotten too much to handle..Kids are a big responsibility, and many women are not given the choice to be child free. Mental pressure is a huge thing!! I am sry u had to go thru that, but I can undrstnd her situation as well..Maybe you can be a better parent to ur kid, that is, if u want any!!
My stepdad did this to my mom and there were 5 of us kids. He drained the bank accounts and left my mother alone and we had just moved here to Florida from Puerto Rico. The biggest scar a person could have is the scar of rejection on this scale.
I literally laughed out loud when the interviewer asked, were you at all glad that he was alive? And she pauses and says, I don't remember that feeling haha
Siyovaxsh En-sipad-zid-ana Boy ain't that the truth. I see it so much it's CRAZY. Destroying their families over a new fling at drop off a hat. That almost all women too.
My aunt vanished like this and was declared dead. It happened way before I was born. She and her two year old daughter just vanished one day, along with the babies father. Foul play was suspected, especially when they found my two year old cousin abandoned in a orphanage across the country months and months later. My aunt never used her social security number after that. After police gave up, my grandmother hired private detectives, who never found a trace. Over 15 years later, my grandmother gets a letter from New Mexico. My aunt is alive, and it said "by the time you read this, I will be on my way driving to Michigan to visit" I was like 8. All I knew is suddenly, days before Christmas, my dad announced we were spending Christmas in Florida. We didnt have the kind of money for vacations. Christmas morning we opened presents and packed up and drove to Florida. I found out when I was older, that when my dad found out that my aunt had been alive this entire time, had abandoned her daughter for her mother to raise, he was enraged and refused to be in the state when she showed up. She never explained what happened. Never gave even her own mother any answers for what happened, where she went, why she was gone, why new Mexico? I started getting gifts in the mail, my aunt had signed me and my little sister up for these "animal of the month" clubs, we got different books about different animals each month and this binder to put the cards about the animals in. That is when my parents had to sit us down and explain my dad had a sister, he had never told us(well never told me and my sister, my mom knew lol). Then a year and a half later, my uncle died and my aunt came here for the funeral. I met her for the first time. She looked significantly older than my dad, her skin just looked like she lived a really rough life. She had this deep scratchy voice that scared me and I've always wondered what those 15+ years were like. Was she trafficked? Was she running from a crime and came back because the statute of limitations ran out? Was she harmed? She's still alive but she will never give answers to those questions
@@moseymay1772 Yeah, the inquisitive part of me wishes she felt comfortable talking about it. When she abandoned my two year old cousin, authorities were thankfully able to locate her and reunite her with my grandparents. They legally adopted her(which technically makes her my cousin by blood and my aunt by law lol). When my aunt resurfaced, she tried to start a relationship with her daughter again but it didn't really work out. The fact that she won't even tell my cousin what happened, when my cousin disappeared with her, is so wild to me. I can't imagine how confusing that had to be for my cousin, when the mother she assumed was dead, suddenly came to visit for Christmas and didn't want to explain where she had been for the last 15+ years of her life.
@@Juwlz I know what you mean about your inquisitive part, one of my close relatives kept a secret such as this. The older I get, the more I witness proof that life can have very many twists, turns and crazy circumstances !
@@TheWestlandgirl right! My grandmother searched for her for so long, she never gave up hope in finding her daughter. She adopted her toddler and raised her as her own. So when she finally surfaced, and didn't answer any questions, never gave any explanation, and suddenly wanted the daughter she abandoned, to call HER Mom? My grandmother was heartbroken. The fact that she thought she was going to be in the will, after all she had done and the way she behaved after coming back 🤦🏻♀️ that was shocking. When she discovered she wasn't getting money from the sale of my grandmother's home, that was the last time we heard from her. She raged out and drove back to new Mexico and that was that
I doubt he's one of those misogynists who fill every internet comment section whinging about how it isn't fair women this or women that, as he left his wife everything when he went off, instead of leaving her with nothing after years of faithful marriage. He probably had some kind of breakdown.
Yes, he is the ultimate dead beat dad. How can someone to walk away, disappear and never speak to his family again. Al for what? To start a new one....If he did not want to be with her anymore, then he should have divorced her. Why should his 2 sons suffer because he cannot face responsibilities. I feel sorry for both wives, and all children involved. So sad.
My ex left me & our 3 children when they were 9, 11 & 13. No one could find him, not even the Cops. 10 years later he tried to walk right back into their lives. They showed more grace & mercy, after some time, than he deserved. They said it was always awkward, never the same & they had a kind of relationship with him for 4 years before he passed away. It affected the children terribly, especially the boys.
Several people I know have had the same with husbands and fathers. The men wanted to come back when the hard work has been done. It was not wonderful for any of the relationships.
My "Dad" did something similar to my Mom, my sister and me. He left us in '94. He got up really early in the morning, stole ALL our money, filled a backpack with some clothing and just vanished. We didn't get a card, or a letter, nor a single word or lead of where he was. 25 years later, now in my 40s, I found him but he got away before I could reach him (thankfully for his well-being). It turnd out he never changed his name, but he got married again and had a child and a totally different family. He ruined our lives 'cause we got kicked out of the house we were renting, and ended up living with his brother's wife's derelict motel. I had to abandon my education to support my Mom and sister (we were 14 and 16 when he left). With a little bit of luck I'll find him again and we can have a little "chat" man to man...
Wow I'm so sorry you went through that.... I hope you are in a better place. My father left me as well. I didn't understand as a child and even a teenager. I felt abandoned. I felt unwanted unloved.. but as I grew into my 20's I learned the World. And I Learned people. And I learned the things people do are on THEM and the person THEY are. It was not me. My father was just a looser and a coward. It had nothing to do with me. And I. Really happy to be free from all those feelings. I could not imagine bringing those feelings into my adult life.. I hope you chose to take control of your life and know it wasn't you that made him leave. It's the person who LEFT who is at fault.
@@iamtherealamandajo3990 Hey dude. Sorry to hear that also, but it seems you turned out better than him. And yeah, I learned from a really young age that he was the problem, not us, and thankfully my Mom was a trooper and she did everything in her hands to give us the best life she could with the little we had. I learnt a couple of months back that he died (supposedly), so he got away with everything he did. That's my only regret, not being able to find him sooner to at least kick his ass, but unfortunately, here in Argentina you don't have the luxury of wasting time and money without working to go find a man that didn't want to be found. Anyway... thanks for sharing your story and all the best to you! Cheers from Buenos Aires!
Internet is giving access to everyones personal info nowadays remember not to trust web for personal id info. Id is tried to be stolen everyday partly by email, cloud services etc., check your hotmail or google account login attempts for example . Taiwan, Iran , Russia, Europe etc..all the time some is hacking to get info and power over my life and yours
"He left with nothing." Yet he was able to buy multiple properties, planes, cars, homes. He either had stolen money or has a god-given talent for making money.
Imagine how many people accused her of doing something to him. So many looking at her with negative thoughts. He should be ordered to pay child support and pay her for her pain and suffering! God Bless that woman!
Honestly and I know this is a random thing to say I think this is probably the same deal with that lady from Tiger King Carol Baskin that the internet insists killed her husband. I was so fascinated with the case I looked into it and it seems more like the guy likely ran off to Costa Rica. I think there’s more cases like this out there than people realize
@@sleepypie3179 basically an "honest question" is just not wanting to sugar coat something.. in other words, ur being honest. I could ask u why you're having a hard time understanding, or i can ask u why tf ur so stupid... thats an honest question.
My boys were the same age when my husband died. I know for a fact how much and how long kids suffer from the loss of a parent they loved. This man is a heartless POS.
Agreed its probably worst at least when u pass away you can reason but running away and then to find out he had a kid. But really I bet he if he didnt run away would have killed himself. Most men under alot of pressure do. So i guess that's my thought it's better he ran than kill himself. But the boys it's so unfair for them. And I bet her world and the way it hurt her too. Sad.
My father disappeared for almost 20 years and I found him on Facebook, I didn't have negative feelings against him, I met him and our relationship did not work out
@@morestuff64058 I get it, I'm just wondering how long someone should hold on to that? I learned years ago that you cannot hold someone accountable anymore than they are willing to hold themselves accountable.
Aliey Ball : hopefully she can get half of his estate but while he in jail she can’t get any child support, my daughters children’s father is and has been in jail for five years, kids were babies when he was incarcerated and she cant get child support because of that, she is raising them and supporting them by working two jobs! But the homes he owned has mortgages she can’t even get money from those, sad situations for the mother and children left behind,
She shouldn’t as long as the houses have mortgages , and also they aren’t under his name technically so it would be very hard for the original family to get a dime from him
My sister knew a married couple who had a toddler son. The mother gave the father an ultimatum - either we give the boy up for adoption, or I'm leaving both of you because I don't want to be a mother. Of course the father was appalled and said no way was he abandoning his son. The wife kept her word and walked out on them both. As far as I know she never looked back. Some people are incapable of loving anyone besides themselves.
Wow! My dad stage a kidnapping when I was small, I’m 58 now. He put a note in the church pulpit saying he was kidnapped. This happened in Ontario, Canada. He chickened out and came back home. My parents divorced years later, because he kept disappearing. I’m still messed up from that.
What I don't understand is "Why" these wretched men aren't made accountable. You can't make them love their children but you can make them financially accountable and take the burden 'off" the Welfare system. I just can't understand how this could be okay. So many of them go on to live good lives.
Those last words are chilling, "I wear it to remind me of a bad example." I feel for his kids, being traded in for another life. I hope those two young men are wonderful fathers, and remain good to their mother.
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and as well for the oppisote sometime women do simular things to that many stories out there
My grandfather left exactly just like that. My mom was nine and have 8 other siblings, the youngest was just months old. I'm so proud of my grandmother for being strong for all those years. In 2016 my uncle tracked his half-sister in facebook and in 2017 my sister and I met our half-uncle?? And said that they only found out they were second family (only the children, the second wife knew it all along) when they applied for death insurance and my grandmother was still listed as his wife on paper. P.S. they also left their two other children in my mom's home town in young age before they disappeared. Sadly the younger girl died as what my mom said and until now they didn't have a clue where the other one who is a boy maybe in his 40's now. After that they had 3 other children and they graduated with a degree in college while my mom and her other 8 siblings grew up struggling in poverty with my grandmother who worked hard for them to survive.
The way he taunted his family with the birthday card is particularly despicable. What a deadbeat! Let’s hope his hole gets widened a couple of inches while in prison.
This is why I highly discourage people (specifically women) from being completely financially dependent on someone else. You never know what’s going to happen. Be smart.
@@calilife5109 you do not speak like a husband, father, war vet or working man. You DO SPEAK THE WORDS OF MANY RACISTS AND REPUBLICANS😜 and they are not simply being badass funny
There’s surprisingly so many cases like this. I’ve been looking into the Brian Shaffer disappearance, the medical student from Columbus Ohio who vanished in April of 2006. Could he have possibly done this as well? Surely, there are people out there who who’ve done similar to this and haven’t been caught (yet) for perhaps longer. Just a thought.
The Schaffer case is a weird one that’s spawned so many theories. He walked into a bar and never walked out, right? I look forward to Dateline, 20/20, Netflix, anybody doing a documentary on it.
My father walked away and I was eventually adopted, what I found out afterwards is as the parent you have to surrender all your rights to the child. He wanted to meet me and my two sisters when we got older. We did go to meet him and instantly disliked him , he was a good looking man and knew it . He was a real con man, we never wanted to see or hear from him again, just before he died he wanted contact again , but NO! He never paid his dues as a father. We were better off without him! The strange thing was .. my mother died when I was young so our adoptive father raised us. I’ve made sure my kids had a good life
@@rowanbowyer6560 As a 76 year old mother, I'm here to tell you, you are a better man than your father was!! People are born to teach us the difference between good or bad, by watching them, it is our choice as to how we live our lives, good for you!!
@BigMomma Btd what that have yo do with it i have a some white friends that grew up without there father i'ts not a color thing it's a human situation gods loves you and he do not see color have a bless day.
It is a bit ridiculous, but, having gone through it recently with a deceased parent, I now know you need just about everything, (birth certificate, death certificate, marriage license(s), marriage dissolution paperwork, and a ton of other paperwork), when it comes time to get deal with a deceased's estate. I imagine it is at least somewhat similar in most western countries.
Just to explain, he didn't actually show people the death certificate to get the birth certificate. He used the data in the death certificate to get it.
My husband left my daughter and I when she was about 18months old. No letter, no reason, no money left behind. We hàd just began our family and new life together and he disappeared without a trace for 6 months. He didn't have any family in the state where we resided. I immediately called his family out of state and country and no one had "heard" from him. I spoke with my neighbors and my uncle who lived next door and no one knew nothing. after contacting authorities, they stated he was an adult and if we weren't legally married there was nothing they could really do besides put out a "bolo". I searched day and night for 3 days crying through back roads at this job, bars, whatever would give me a slight answer. I had to get a second job in the meantime to pay for the additional car notes insurance and cell phones we had just got. The worst, was not having an answer to a child who would ask for her dad and now her mom was always at work. After 6 months and multiple threats I found him out of the country on an alcoholic binge. Needless to say I didn't recognize him in more ways than once and here I shattered me and my daughter's 💗 once again. He wanted bare minimum to do with us and to leave him alone as fast as we located him. He didn't want to be found and his family was protecting him in his escape from adulthood. This is where I realized he wasn't a man and less than a coward. My kid is now 18, (almost 19) and nothing has changed I've raised her as best as I could. It traumatized the both of us. The story goes on but I'll leave it here for now. This is both a psychological and character issue. Hurt people, hurt people. ~Xoxoxo
It was hard for her to express what she loved about him. My ex-husband would've left like this if, I didn't call the Police on him. He wanted me to sign a contract stating; I didn't want Alimony or Child support. 👎🏾👎🏾👎🏾
Chris Torres sorry for the late reply, but yes it is legal. He has a financial and custodial responsibility to help out raising those kids... So yes, in most states, she can take him to civil court n sue him for compensation
My grandfather left....just like that. My dad was eight. There's just something that happens to you inside when a parent checks out, never to return. I really feel for the kids in all of this.
My grandpa too. Became a millionaire, worked for nasa, started his new family. Never met the guy and I share his last name. He's dead now. My sister got to meet him but she, God bless her soul, passed 3 years ago at 24. I never even got to talk to her about him. Damn life is hard and confusing.
@@jessecrawford8450 Indeed, life is confusing. My grandfather's sister lived 12 blocks from me for 10 years. I could have walked to her house and got all the answers we wanted. But we didn't know. I found her on Ancestry five years ago. Died in 2000.. I'm so sorry you didn't get to speak with your grandpa or get your sister's opinion of him. And so very sorry for the loss of your sister. I pray your family's been able to heal. We've learned forgiveness is the first step. Sending a hug, and wishing you peace.
@@jessecrawford8450 My Dad’s father left him around 8 and my great grandfather left my mom’s Dad when he was young, my dad and grandpa got to grow up without dads, my great grandpa showed up one day after abandoning him for over 40 years and my grandpa slammed the door in his face… Sucks so many Dads and Moms dgaf
Notice she hesitated when he asked what she liked about him'? Must be hard to find anything after what he did, wounds heal slowly over time... Yes and they leave scars, a constant reminder.
Maybe she never liked him and he knew it. What if she hated him and he knew it. The only "real" thing he took from her was himself. He let her keep everything. Odds are the outcome of a divorce would have been her ending up with everything. What if he knew divorce odds (including losing his kids) and didn't want the headache of the court?
@@johnvanegmond1812 Leave it to a man again to make excuses for other men who are cowards & lame excuse for a man to start with let alone a "Father". You're all making presumptions trying to make her look bad & make him look good? the con-artist? the coward? Who deserted one family, stole an identity & lied to his 2nd family? How do they sleep at night?
@@johnvanegmond1812 I don't think you comprehend the debilitating stress, shock and anxiety he put his family through! They didn't know whether he was dead or alive! Losing their home and cars to the bank, selling their possessions, moving, finding a cheap place to live, trying to find money for food and basics, etc etc etc etc! All the while dealing with police and being investigated!! People suffer complete breakdowns under such severe stress!
My son’s father passed away when he was a week away from turning 2. I’ve had dreams (more like bitter-sweet nightmares) of finding out he faked his death and his family was in on it the whole time just so he could leave the responsibility of a child and a partner for another woman who was younger (I was literally 22 when he passed so any younger would be concerning lmao) and I find out and the feeling is unlike anything I can describe, it literally messes with my head for the rest of the day after waking up from something like that, so to know this woman and her children LIVED my actual nightmare is horrifying. My partner didn’t go missing and I had to see his body so I know in reality it’s not possible for it happen to myself and our son but this also got me thinking about the possibility of someone just walking around out there using his death as a way for them to steal his identity and create a life in his name that we are no even remotely aware of. It’s a scary world out there. Shame on this idiot for putting his original family through this and then going on to create a brand new family to drag along through the fire with them as well in the end. Ugh.
The family lost their home and had the car repossessed. Kids grew up poor. Grr. While he marries, buys a house and a plane. Grrr. P.S. Identify theft is still happening. Stay safe.
Not one, but four houses in florida. I think he's a psychopath. I also think people should have to get a background check when they apply for a marriage certificate.
It certainly identifies who was productive and who was the leech in the relationship. There is a reason some wives are referred to as the ball and chain.
How could he do that?? The leaving is bad enough!! But letting your wife, children, and family think your dead - never knowing what happened. Leaving them with nothing. Wow.
My great grandpa left my great grandma and the kids and went from oklahoma to new orleans. My grandmother showed up at his door at 14 and asked why he had a whole other family. He left about 1925.
I'm glad he didn't kill his wife/ wife and kids like other worms have. He has no idea the value of his own kids who he threw away like they were nothing. The grandmother is a beautiful soul who defines family more than that thing ever will.
Milwaukee Brewers that would be better than what he did. ummm let me get a large coke and a whole new identity, wife kid, family, job and oh yea i would like to avoid all legal liability
Because he would be held financially responsible for the family (children) he co-created. He was too selfish to do that, so he disappeared himself. Glad he'll spend a big chunk of time in jail. Fucking POS.
Wow, he wears his Dad's ring to remind himself of a, "Bad example", reminding himself everyday of the pain and suffering of a horrible Father. He does not want to become a bad example for his children, like his Father was to him. That's deep. God Bless you and your family. 🙏
Nah, I think he still wants his dad. See how he’s hoping that he just got involved with bad people/dealings to justify his disappearing? If he sees him, he’ll probably run to his dad’s arms and tell him how much he loves him and misses him and it’s all mom’s fault. Weakling!
@@jaymoulic8144 loving your parent whether they do you right or wrong does not make you a weakingly. Saying your statement makes you one and shows you need therapy.
"He can't stand to be confined in any one place and now he can't go anywhere. It just kinda tickles me a little bit." If you are going to quote at least make an effort to get it right!
@@alicemiriah nope. She was just too lazy to go back and check the wording and also actually got the meaning/ content wrong. Its also not the end of the world or makes her a bad person. Its just mildly annoying when people dont make an effort
This makes me respect real fathers more. I also wish my father wanted to be around, but life doesn’t work that way. You try to strengthen yourself and move on.
They are so lucky to have a grandmother like her, said that's my daughter and I had to help her, that's how it should be family is amazing and thank goodness for love
Question to all you people out there in a Unhappy Marriage.... is Divorce really that bad? That you're only option is faking your Deaths or killing your Spouses?
My friend in Mexico, the dad left them, she was 13 and had a 10 year old brother, 8 and a 1 year old sisters. They though maybe he was kidnapped or something happened to him. The mom and my friend had to get jobs, they started cleaning hotels. A few years ago the mistress dropped him off at the wife's house in a wheelchair. She didn't want anything with him, the son took him in.
One tip. If you gonna just leave your home without telling anything to your loved ones. Before leaving change your name and all important documents then leave. Police will only look for your previous name they won't imagine that you changed your name.
Why would the grandmother have grief ? She wasn't in a relationship with Richard. The grandmother seems more upset about having to financially help her daughter. Truth is.... Richard didn't want anything to do with Linda anymore. Linda and her mother seems like two vindictive women, who would've made Richard's life miserable.
LOL! I was thinking something similar. I was thinking of all the people who whine about how they can't change their lives for the better. Here's an example of how one can start over and rebuild. His crime was dumping his wife and kids into a mess, but skipping that part, the rebuild part can be done by anyone.
In February 2017, Hoagland pleaded guilty to a charge of aggravated identity theft. He served nearly two years in federal prison before returning to Indiana in April. Meanwhile, his wife pursued him in court for child support. Earlier this month, a judge in Hamilton County Indiana decided Hoagland owes his wife and sons $1.86 million, the Star reported. "I was glad that we finally had made it to that point where he would be held accountable for his behavior," Linda Iseler told the Star. Douglas Hoagland, also out of custody, was on hand for the recent court hearing. It was the first time he had seen his father since 1993. "If you think you had two kids and you wanted to see them so bad, you think you'd be a little bit emotional," Douglas recalled to the Star. "But this guy, nothing." It's unclear if Iseler and her sons will get any money from the judgment. Hoagland's assets are tied up in divorce proceedings with his Florida wife.
Technically their not actually married because he used a name that wasn't even his. He was already married, when he got married rendering the new marriage null and void.
That's actually an old way to obtain new ID. We were given a death certificate but the IRS would only except the birth certificate. So we had to apply for a birth certificate for our deceased daughter for the IRS audit. 🤨
I feel so terribly sorry for his sons that he abandoned. Bad enough to ditch their mother, but to not only just walk out of their lives, then have the balls to send a casual, "maybe I'll see you sometime" card to them later, was to me proof that this POS was a sociopath who had no heart, while those of his sons ached for their father. I hope he sits in confinement a good long time, and eats up all the "freedom" and joy he stole from his family so long ago. Condolences to them and their mother, and that's only the first of two families he shattered. All were damaged beyond belief because of one man's selfishness.
The wife could have spent 23 years in jail for his 'murder'. How scary is that.
Not really correct, Dez. Many people have been jailed on circumstantial evidence. No body. No murder weapon. No evidence except 'we think you did it.'
Dez Adams or if your black.
That's why I don't believe in the death sentence. I understand how people believe that pedophiles and serial killers deserve death but the fact the innocent people can be put on death row terrifies me.
Dez Adams here in America they can do whatever they want to. they can even kill you and exonerate you 70 years later.
I believe Richard has said he left his family due to thinking they were not really his family but replaced by skrulls(Reptilians) but has since admitted he was wrong and just scared to be tried down. heres some of his conspiracy theorys on ancient aliens and the face o n mars.
ruclips.net/user/results?search_query=Richard+Hoagland
So he destroyed the lives of 2 wives, 3 children and ended up in jail. Ok.
And his mother? I would be sick if my daughter had gone.
Makes you wonder who else is “ missing” decide just to ditch their ole lives and start a new
Claire M yeah.... you say that as if the jail sentence is too lenient of a punishment. What do you want for him, the death penalty?
@@GHotSauceAnd1 No they didnt, you interpreted that way. and thats exactly why theres so much hostility on the internet nowdays.
Young Chillionaire It’s ops fault you can’t understand a simple comment?💀
The fact he had all that money and he chose not to help out his kids is disgusting. That's not even mentioning the disrespect to a dead man's name
My dad won the lottery and did something like this
@@reptilian2998
Quoting you:
""Why dad one the lottery and did something like this""!!! What are you saying? I can't even begin to understand your comment!!!
@@FLo-jc7ig really? You can't figure that out on your own. Is there an adult nearby? Quit being a douche bag!!
@@katjon I don't think he's being a douchebag. I don't see him name-calling . I'm sure you can figure out a way to respond without it
@@mostdopepuzzlehead3445 you really want to test that theory?
"He told me it was family issues with his wife and children."
What kind of issues do you have with a NINE and a SIX YEAR OLD?? Bad enough to abandon your family, but to just disappear without a word, leaving them fearing what had happened to you. Whether you'd been taken against your will and are being held somewhere, or got caught up with some dangerous people. Whether you'd been murdered ... It's heartless.
I imagine the "issue" was he wanted to leave his wife/kids and didn't want to pay child support.
The issue is that he’s a loser and couldn’t handle to take care of a family gotta respect the men that do it
@@jontupac7890 except he did get a new family 4 years later and was fine.
There's always two sides to a story. Some people have a legitimate personality disorder and that may stem from traumatic experiences during childhood. It baffles me as well why parents abandon or alienate their kids but like I said there's two sides to every story. Just something to think about... Not that it justifies his actions but this narc could have done a world of damage if he didnt leave. Could have been the best scenerio for the family he left behind.
@@mostdopepuzzlehead3445 it's pure selfishness
You know society is in trouble when people comment that "at least he didn't wipe out his entire family."
xxLaKalypsoxx exactly what I was thinking. It’s a terrible reflection of just how low modern societies have sunk.
I do not believe humans have evolved much if at all. They simply have a new facade like savages in suits.
Sad ☹️
Walk away or kill them all is a choice for some.
@@frankboff1260 while its true that modern society has its flaws, to suggest that we aren't living in the best society ever is ignorant. In history murders, killings, and crimes were legal hell even encouraged and there wasn't any laws or people to enforce them. There were senseless genocides, barbaric stonings and beatings everyday. If someone was found out to have stolen property or cheated on their spouse then they would be dragged into the center of their village and the residents would all throw rocks at them and beat them to death. Nowadays we have a much more civilized and sensible way of solving problems, better morals, and respect for life.
@Robin D. .. WoW you're patidic!
@Milciades Castillo not funny!!!
You a coward if you leave your kids in the dark like that.
Chaos Theory so he turned the lights out when he left???
Chaos Theory, DO U KNOW DA WAE?!
Gamingonmcpe please shut up.
Gamingonmcpe the meme is dead. Fuck off
Ugandan Warrior oh the irony...
"He can't stand to be in any one place, now he can't go anywhere. It tickles me a bit." I loved her response. So sweet but with the right amount of shade.
He didn't want to pay alimony or child support!! It's OBVIOUS.
He wanted to leave his wife and kids and not accept any responsibility.
He wasn't coerced. He wasn't mixed with bad people. He left cause he didn't care about his kids but only cared about his damn self. Shame.
He wasn’t mixed up with bad people, HE is the bad people.
Can’t imagine what rejection those boys felt...I wish them well
@Ivan Snyder why?
@Ivan Snyder no you wouldn’t, you angry 9 year olds get too upset sometimes.
Tyler Echardt that doesn’t mean there isn’t damage already done. I have a family friend who has extensive trauma from thinking her mother abandoned her, when really her mother was murdered by a serial murderer trucker.
Yah. My mom abandoned me at 14. 5 years alcoholic. I'm aaight
@@te8828 who
Grandma is the real hero here, my hat's off for that woman.
Heck ya.
How could you leave your kids? Crazy
How is grandma a hero, I'm re watching this, still don't get it. 🤔
She is the parrot though
Aman, my Grandma was my Hero too
A little update on this. He was convicted and served two years in jail. After getting out his second wife divorced him. In 2018 his first wife sued him for back child support in which the judge added the maximum interest of 18%. He was ordered to pay nearly two million. It's doubtful that they ever got a dime.
Thanks for the update!
Oh wow! How did you find this out?
If he works they will be taking it out if his pay check
Yea. She won a Civil suit for $1.8mil.
Just think, she would have saved her sons, her mother, & herself from hardship and heartache if she had just treated him better.
@@E.P.7131 lol how fuckin miserable are you?
My mother left just like that when I was 3 years old and my sister was 1 years old. I never understood how a parent could just abandon their children like that and never wish to contact them. I understand having issues with your spouse but abandoning your children, I will never understand. I'm glad that after all the years this man's family got some closure on what happened to their father. It's been over 30 years since we last saw our mother. I heard she started a new life without us. I pray that wherever she is that God forgives her.
The part I don’t get is why start over the same thing you had elsewhere.
I'm so sorry you and your sister had to go through that 😔...
your heart is solid gold, i hope you learn to forgive her too
Bless you, she robbed you all and herself also.
You all could have gotten too much to handle..Kids are a big responsibility, and many women are not given the choice to be child free. Mental pressure is a huge thing!! I am sry u had to go thru that, but I can undrstnd her situation as well..Maybe you can be a better parent to ur kid, that is, if u want any!!
"I don't remember that feeling " she's a lot nicer than she wanted to be at that moment
Wow! Hello from Australia, 23 years later …. Would be such a shock. What a Devious male
She said a lot with few words
He didn’t want to pay alimony or child support so he abandoned his family. I’m just sad that it took 23 years for him to get caught.
Exactly that is what happen
I dont understand why is that a crime just asking
They should have make him pay for all those years of paying Alimony.
@edwin younes Why leaving a Person you dont want to be with a Crime ?
@edwin younes is this the Freedom This country talk about so much 🤔 You cant even leave someone
The son is in clear denial tbh.
This trauma cuts deep.
My stepdad did this to my mom and there were 5 of us kids. He drained the bank accounts and left my mother alone and we had just moved here to Florida from Puerto Rico. The biggest scar a person could have is the scar of rejection on this scale.
I literally laughed out loud when the interviewer asked, were you at all glad that he was alive? And she pauses and says, I don't remember that feeling haha
🤣🤣🤣🤣YES MA'AM!
😭
Yess haha 😂 loved the honesty there!
🤣🤣🤣I just did and then read this! Perfect timing.
And wonder why he left 🤣
How selfish can this man be? He tore apart two families....one when he walked out and the other when it was discovered that he was living a lie.
Exactly!! He's a loser without a conscience.
Siyovaxsh En-sipad-zid-ana who hurt you?
Jessica Abbinante 😂
Siyovaxsh En-sipad-zid-ana Boy ain't that the truth. I see it so much it's CRAZY. Destroying their families over a new fling at drop off a hat. That almost all women too.
Siyovaxsh En-sipad-zid-ana dosent matter what the wife did. He had no right to do what he did. He should have just gotten a divorce
My aunt vanished like this and was declared dead. It happened way before I was born. She and her two year old daughter just vanished one day, along with the babies father. Foul play was suspected, especially when they found my two year old cousin abandoned in a orphanage across the country months and months later. My aunt never used her social security number after that. After police gave up, my grandmother hired private detectives, who never found a trace. Over 15 years later, my grandmother gets a letter from New Mexico. My aunt is alive, and it said "by the time you read this, I will be on my way driving to Michigan to visit"
I was like 8. All I knew is suddenly, days before Christmas, my dad announced we were spending Christmas in Florida. We didnt have the kind of money for vacations. Christmas morning we opened presents and packed up and drove to Florida. I found out when I was older, that when my dad found out that my aunt had been alive this entire time, had abandoned her daughter for her mother to raise, he was enraged and refused to be in the state when she showed up.
She never explained what happened. Never gave even her own mother any answers for what happened, where she went, why she was gone, why new Mexico? I started getting gifts in the mail, my aunt had signed me and my little sister up for these "animal of the month" clubs, we got different books about different animals each month and this binder to put the cards about the animals in. That is when my parents had to sit us down and explain my dad had a sister, he had never told us(well never told me and my sister, my mom knew lol).
Then a year and a half later, my uncle died and my aunt came here for the funeral. I met her for the first time. She looked significantly older than my dad, her skin just looked like she lived a really rough life. She had this deep scratchy voice that scared me and I've always wondered what those 15+ years were like. Was she trafficked? Was she running from a crime and came back because the statute of limitations ran out? Was she harmed? She's still alive but she will never give answers to those questions
Julia, WoW, that's crazy. Or maybe she had to protect herself and be hidden for some reason, witnessed a crime or who knows what ?
@@moseymay1772 Yeah, the inquisitive part of me wishes she felt comfortable talking about it. When she abandoned my two year old cousin, authorities were thankfully able to locate her and reunite her with my grandparents. They legally adopted her(which technically makes her my cousin by blood and my aunt by law lol). When my aunt resurfaced, she tried to start a relationship with her daughter again but it didn't really work out. The fact that she won't even tell my cousin what happened, when my cousin disappeared with her, is so wild to me. I can't imagine how confusing that had to be for my cousin, when the mother she assumed was dead, suddenly came to visit for Christmas and didn't want to explain where she had been for the last 15+ years of her life.
@@Juwlz I know what you mean about your inquisitive part, one of my close relatives kept a secret such as this. The older I get, the more I witness proof that life can have very many twists, turns and crazy circumstances !
Hey no answers no relationships. It's the least they could do.
@@TheWestlandgirl right! My grandmother searched for her for so long, she never gave up hope in finding her daughter. She adopted her toddler and raised her as her own. So when she finally surfaced, and didn't answer any questions, never gave any explanation, and suddenly wanted the daughter she abandoned, to call HER Mom? My grandmother was heartbroken. The fact that she thought she was going to be in the will, after all she had done and the way she behaved after coming back 🤦🏻♀️ that was shocking. When she discovered she wasn't getting money from the sale of my grandmother's home, that was the last time we heard from her. She raged out and drove back to new Mexico and that was that
His first family gave up caring about him decade's earlier. They looked angry he wasn't dead.
LOL!! Having him be dead is easier than dealing with the humiliation.
@@justsaying3729 I'd say rather than humiliation, it's more about the betrayal
I don’t blame the Family. They were already victims of his cowardice. Here he is in the flesh acting like there is nothing to see here…smh
They are angry and hurt by what he did
divorce would have been a better option instead of that
So that he can lose all his shit and become a slave for the next 18 years to someone he obviously doesn't want anything to do with?
I doubt he's one of those misogynists who fill every internet comment section whinging about how it isn't fair women this or women that, as he left his wife everything when he went off, instead of leaving her with nothing after years of faithful marriage. He probably had some kind of breakdown.
Max Bernevek it's not about her, it's about the children!
psych96 he didn't want to pay child support
No it wouldn't.
The ultimate deadbeat dad.
Frank San Nicolas illusion 100
Balraj Singh UP, UP, DOWN, DOWN, LEFT, RIGHT, LEFT, RIGHT, B, A, START
No he's just an idiot that's all
How is he a deadbeat when he worked for Nasa and has any kids he takes care of now?
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Yes, he is the ultimate dead beat dad. How can someone to walk away, disappear and never speak to his family again. Al for what? To start a new one....If he did not want to be with her anymore, then he should have divorced her. Why should his 2 sons suffer because he cannot face responsibilities. I feel sorry for both wives, and all children involved. So sad.
My ex left me & our 3 children when they were 9, 11 & 13. No one could find him, not even the Cops. 10 years later he tried to walk right back into their lives. They showed more grace & mercy, after some time, than he deserved. They said it was always awkward, never the same & they had a kind of relationship with him for 4 years before he passed away. It affected the children terribly, especially the boys.
Sorry to hear but looks like you raised very kind graceful children.
Horrible.💔
Several people I know have had the same with husbands and fathers. The men wanted to come back when the hard work has been done. It was not wonderful for any of the relationships.
My "Dad" did something similar to my Mom, my sister and me. He left us in '94. He got up really early in the morning, stole ALL our money, filled a backpack with some clothing and just vanished. We didn't get a card, or a letter, nor a single word or lead of where he was. 25 years later, now in my 40s, I found him but he got away before I could reach him (thankfully for his well-being). It turnd out he never changed his name, but he got married again and had a child and a totally different family. He ruined our lives 'cause we got kicked out of the house we were renting, and ended up living with his brother's wife's derelict motel. I had to abandon my education to support my Mom and sister (we were 14 and 16 when he left).
With a little bit of luck I'll find him again and we can have a little "chat" man to man...
Wow I'm so sorry you went through that.... I hope you are in a better place. My father left me as well. I didn't understand as a child and even a teenager. I felt abandoned. I felt unwanted unloved.. but as I grew into my 20's I learned the World. And I Learned people. And I learned the things people do are on THEM and the person THEY are. It was not me. My father was just a looser and a coward. It had nothing to do with me. And I. Really happy to be free from all those feelings. I could not imagine bringing those feelings into my adult life.. I hope you chose to take control of your life and know it wasn't you that made him leave. It's the person who LEFT who is at fault.
@@iamtherealamandajo3990 Hey dude. Sorry to hear that also, but it seems you turned out better than him.
And yeah, I learned from a really young age that he was the problem, not us, and thankfully my Mom was a trooper and she did everything in her hands to give us the best life she could with the little we had. I learnt a couple of months back that he died (supposedly), so he got away with everything he did. That's my only regret, not being able to find him sooner to at least kick his ass, but unfortunately, here in Argentina you don't have the luxury of wasting time and money without working to go find a man that didn't want to be found.
Anyway... thanks for sharing your story and all the best to you! Cheers from Buenos Aires!
I am ao sorry ,you,your mother,and sibling didn't deserve that
He literally restarted life like in a game lol
Lolllllll!
Respawn 😂
And it was a good life too! Tricky case since he was a good member and productive person. Still a crime tho
@@queensblade5013 Lol, that woman drove him crazy, he had to leave.
@D. F. very true he could have ran and still played some part in there lifes
“Identity theft is not a joke Jim, millions of families suffer from it every day!”
-Dwight K. Schrute
Million suffer every year! Is the right one lol
*every year
OH THAT'S FUNNY....MICHAEL!?
MICHAEL!!
Internet is giving access to everyones personal info nowadays remember not to trust web for personal id info. Id is tried to be stolen everyday partly by email, cloud services etc., check your hotmail or google account login attempts for example . Taiwan, Iran , Russia, Europe etc..all the time some is hacking to get info and power over my life and yours
"He left with nothing." Yet he was able to buy multiple properties, planes, cars, homes. He either had stolen money or has a god-given talent for making money.
nope, he did some dirty work
He probably acquired a job somewhere and packed overtime. Before leaving.
@@zourdy697 given that he is willing to abandon kids, something tells me that him commiting crimes to get money isn't too far fetched either.
Con artist
At the end they say he stole 1 millions dollars or there was suspicion he did that.
Imagine how many people accused her of doing something to him. So many looking at her with negative thoughts. He should be ordered to pay child support and pay her for her pain and suffering! God Bless that woman!
Can’t pay in prison.
Lol
@@PresidentUSVI If he has assets. They said he had properties and boats etc. He should pay restitution to his first wife and children!
Honestly and I know this is a random thing to say I think this is probably the same deal with that lady from Tiger King Carol Baskin that the internet insists killed her husband. I was so fascinated with the case I looked into it and it seems more like the guy likely ran off to Costa Rica. I think there’s more cases like this out there than people realize
The cruelest question I have ever heard - “Is that a better thing for you to believe than he actually just left you “
But an honest one
Samantha mother of cats an honest question? How can a question be honest
@@sleepypie3179 im not even gonna answer that cuz it should be common sense
Samantha mother of cats He could want an honest answer but a question in itself can not be honest. It can’t lie
@@sleepypie3179 basically an "honest question" is just not wanting to sugar coat something.. in other words, ur being honest. I could ask u why you're having a hard time understanding, or i can ask u why tf ur so stupid... thats an honest question.
My boys were the same age when my husband died. I know for a fact how much and how long kids suffer from the loss of a parent they loved. This man is a heartless POS.
Agreed its probably worst at least when u pass away you can reason but running away and then to find out he had a kid. But really I bet he if he didnt run away would have killed himself. Most men under alot of pressure do. So i guess that's my thought it's better he ran than kill himself. But the boys it's so unfair for them. And I bet her world and the way it hurt her too. Sad.
Sophie Jameson ❤️
As a boy at the time who lost his dad when he was 12.
I can tell you at 31 I've never really fully recovered.
At least he didn't murder them while they were in his womb.
Are you equally disgusted by the trash that murders their unborn?
@@LyndonGrimm awwwe booohoooo poor little baby
My father disappeared for almost 20 years and I found him on Facebook, I didn't have negative feelings against him, I met him and our relationship did not work out
Right. Just move on, life's not fair. Nobody owes anyone anything really.
@@E.P.7131 Move On? Its his Father. he dumped his son and lived a new life
@@morestuff64058 I get it, I'm just wondering how long someone should hold on to that?
I learned years ago that you cannot hold someone accountable anymore than they are willing to hold themselves accountable.
What an absolute mess this man caused. I feel for all the family members impacted by his utter selfishness
I hope she sued him for the years of unpaid child support.
Aliey Ball : hopefully she can get half of his estate but while he in jail she can’t get any child support, my daughters children’s father is and has been in jail for five years, kids were babies when he was incarcerated and she cant get child support because of that, she is raising them and supporting them by working two jobs! But the homes he owned has mortgages she can’t even get money from those, sad situations for the mother and children left behind,
Obviously you do.
@@southerngirlsrock2799 damn. That's a law that really needs review!!
@@southerngirlsrock2799 Found the leech
She shouldn’t as long as the houses have mortgages , and also they aren’t under his name technically so it would be very hard for the original family to get a dime from him
Abandon your wife and young kids = NOT a man. Hardly human
John LaLone Definitely human
Trevor Anderson no. Hardly human
Logan Greene A way someone acts doesn't make them not human. But a persons actions can be considered "inhumane"
John LaLone that's why he took a dead man's identity
John LaLone he is a man.
My sister knew a married couple who had a toddler son. The mother gave the father an ultimatum - either we give the boy up for adoption, or I'm leaving both of you because I don't want to be a mother. Of course the father was appalled and said no way was he abandoning his son. The wife kept her word and walked out on them both. As far as I know she never looked back. Some people are incapable of loving anyone besides themselves.
Wow! My dad stage a kidnapping when I was small, I’m 58 now. He put a note in the church pulpit saying he was kidnapped. This happened in Ontario, Canada.
He chickened out and came back home. My parents divorced years later, because he kept disappearing.
I’m still messed up from that.
I will NEVER understand how a parent can abandon their child!
What I don't understand is "Why" these wretched men aren't made accountable. You can't make them love their children but you can make them financially accountable and take the burden 'off" the Welfare system. I just can't understand how this could be okay. So many of them go on to live good lives.
One man’s trash is another man’s treasure.
They hate themselves. Only way it can happen.
It's very easy
@@agentcodybanx8909 Yeah it is, for Assholes.
Those last words are chilling, "I wear it to remind me of a bad example." I feel for his kids, being traded in for another life. I hope those two young men are wonderful fathers, and remain good to their mother.
and as well for the oppisote sometime women do simular things to that many stories out there
@D Legionnaire okay not sure why the plug but I went to watch it and have to say it wasn't bad
👏👏👏👏
Yiudyiyiiyy
Prayers going out to the children. No child deserves that. I could never do that to my kids, unless their lives depended on it. 🙏🏽😔
the dad left to get milk
@@user-hd7vm4cr7o is that what your mom told you? 😂 🖕🏽
An interesting & sad story, the feeling of abandonment that his family felt must have been overwhelming.
@Hello there, how are you doing this blessed day?
"Hey dad, where ya goin?"
"Out to get a pack of smokes, ill be back."
"But, dad, you don't smoke."
"Uhhhh, bye."
lolll
Oh that's messed up. 😂
😂😂😂
Lol 😂 dad: I’m going to get gas ⛽️.me dad we don’t got a car 🚙
Lmao dead 🤣 🤣 🤣
I like how his son said he wears the ring to remind him not to be like the bad example.
He just made that up cuz he found out he was alive lol
No, he has to have a reason to CONTINUE wearing it, you dense, fucking idiot. You obviously don't think before you speak
I bet you spend most of your time online swearing at women
You sound like a 550lb neckbeard.
Dayumm babe. You need to give me your contact coz i seem to have found a dime in you😍😍
My grandfather left exactly just like that. My mom was nine and have 8 other siblings, the youngest was just months old. I'm so proud of my grandmother for being strong for all those years. In 2016 my uncle tracked his half-sister in facebook and in 2017 my sister and I met our half-uncle?? And said that they only found out they were second family (only the children, the second wife knew it all along) when they applied for death insurance and my grandmother was still listed as his wife on paper.
P.S. they also left their two other children in my mom's home town in young age before they disappeared. Sadly the younger girl died as what my mom said and until now they didn't have a clue where the other one who is a boy maybe in his 40's now. After that they had 3 other children and they graduated with a degree in college while my mom and her other 8 siblings grew up struggling in poverty with my grandmother who worked hard for them to survive.
The way he taunted his family with the birthday card is particularly despicable. What a deadbeat! Let’s hope his hole gets widened a couple of inches while in prison.
This is why I highly discourage people (specifically women) from being completely financially dependent on someone else. You never know what’s going to happen. Be smart.
😄😆😄 totally
My mom managed to get her teaching cert. before she was left with no family but her 3 and 6 yr old😁🤗
Ok thats common sense
We men aint supporting no bum ass bitches
@@calilife5109 you do not speak like a husband, father, war vet or working man. You DO SPEAK THE WORDS OF MANY RACISTS AND REPUBLICANS😜
and they are not simply being badass funny
Rosalind Martin Republicans? Tf 🤣
I think he didn't really love his wife and just wanted out... and she had no clue about it...
munobasho9: he wasn't getting any sucky sucky or fuky fuky.
What about the kids
munobasho9 yikes thats very cruel
Livin' The Dream LMAO 😂🤣😂
Livin' The Dream Sucky Sucky 10 dollar.
There’s surprisingly so many cases like this. I’ve been looking into the Brian Shaffer disappearance, the medical student from Columbus Ohio who vanished in April of 2006. Could he have possibly done this as well? Surely, there are people out there who who’ve done similar to this and haven’t been caught (yet) for perhaps longer. Just a thought.
The Schaffer case is a weird one that’s spawned so many theories. He walked into a bar and never walked out, right? I look forward to Dateline, 20/20, Netflix, anybody doing a documentary on it.
@@emperoricecream1 I hope so as well. It is truly bizarre. The case still haunts me till this day.
Now whatever insurance money they got they have to pay back. This man 23 years later is still giving his family hell.
My dad left when i was a baby. Saw him like twice my whole life when i was in elementary. Im 31 now. What a coward!
Jay, sorry for your bad experience, hope you are a better father.
My father walked away and I was eventually adopted, what I found out afterwards is as the parent you have to surrender all your rights to the child. He wanted to meet me and my two sisters when we got older. We did go to meet him and instantly disliked him , he was a good looking man and knew it . He was a real con man, we never wanted to see or hear from him again, just before he died he wanted contact again , but NO! He never paid his dues as a father. We were better off without him! The strange thing was .. my mother died when I was young so our adoptive father raised us. I’ve made sure my kids had a good life
@@rowanbowyer6560 As a 76 year old mother, I'm here to tell you, you are a better man than your father was!! People are born to teach us the difference between good or bad, by watching them, it is our choice as to how we live our lives, good for you!!
@BigMomma Btd what that have yo do with it i have a some white friends that grew up without there father i'ts not a color thing it's a human situation gods loves you and he do not see color have a bless day.
@BigMomma Btd sorry i misspell some words i quit school that's something ill regret the rest of my life.
Found a death certificate, applied for a birth certificate.... I love America
It is a bit ridiculous, but, having gone through it recently with a deceased parent, I now know you need just about everything, (birth certificate, death certificate, marriage license(s), marriage dissolution paperwork, and a ton of other paperwork), when it comes time to get deal with a deceased's estate. I imagine it is at least somewhat similar in most western countries.
Do you have any ID for this new birth certificate? Well I have my death certificate. Perfect, that will work!
@@GoingPure LOL
Just to explain, he didn't actually show people the death certificate to get the birth certificate. He used the data in the death certificate to get it.
@@GoingPure 😭😂🤣🤣
My husband left my daughter and I when she was about 18months old. No letter, no reason, no money left behind. We hàd just began our family and new life together and he disappeared without a trace for 6 months. He didn't have any family in the state where we resided. I immediately called his family out of state and country and no one had "heard" from him. I spoke with my neighbors and my uncle who lived next door and no one knew nothing. after contacting authorities, they stated he was an adult and if we weren't legally married there was nothing they could really do besides put out a "bolo". I searched day and night for 3 days crying through back roads at this job, bars, whatever would give me a slight answer. I had to get a second job in the meantime to pay for the additional car notes insurance and cell phones we had just got. The worst, was not having an answer to a child who would ask for her dad and now her mom was always at work. After 6 months and multiple threats I found him out of the country on an alcoholic binge. Needless to say I didn't recognize him in more ways than once and here I shattered me and my daughter's 💗 once again. He wanted bare minimum to do with us and to leave him alone as fast as we located him. He didn't want to be found and his family was protecting him in his escape from adulthood. This is where I realized he wasn't a man and less than a coward.
My kid is now 18, (almost 19) and nothing has changed I've raised her as best as I could. It traumatized the both of us. The story goes on but I'll leave it here for now.
This is both a psychological and character issue.
Hurt people, hurt people.
~Xoxoxo
It was hard for her to express what she loved about him. My ex-husband would've left like this if, I didn't call the Police on him. He wanted me to sign a contract stating; I didn't want Alimony or Child support. 👎🏾👎🏾👎🏾
"I don't remember that feeling." Understatement of the year.
Savage and understandable
Also the fact that the nephew was doing the family tree. What an unbelievable story
Sue him for abandonment. It's illegal to leave them without a proper divorce and child support settlement, the evidence is overwhelming 😠😠😠
Legal?
Chris Torres sorry for the late reply, but yes it is legal. He has a financial and custodial responsibility to help out raising those kids... So yes, in most states, she can take him to civil court n sue him for compensation
A C I think you mean illegal bud
@@pt9373 lmao finally someone said it
Chris Torres i meant to say it is legally acceptable to sue him... But i edited my post anyway. Sorry for the confusion lol
This officer /detective deserves a raise
Blessings to your family from New Brunswick Canada 🇨🇦
My grandfather left....just like that. My dad was eight. There's just something that happens to you inside when a parent checks out, never to return. I really feel for the kids in all of this.
My grandpa too. Became a millionaire, worked for nasa, started his new family. Never met the guy and I share his last name. He's dead now. My sister got to meet him but she, God bless her soul, passed 3 years ago at 24. I never even got to talk to her about him. Damn life is hard and confusing.
@@jessecrawford8450 Indeed, life is confusing. My grandfather's sister lived 12 blocks from me for 10 years. I could have walked to her house and got all the answers we wanted. But we didn't know. I found her on Ancestry five years ago. Died in 2000.. I'm so sorry you didn't get to speak with your grandpa or get your sister's opinion of him. And so very sorry for the loss of your sister. I pray your family's been able to heal. We've learned forgiveness is the first step. Sending a hug, and wishing you peace.
@@jessecrawford8450 My Dad’s father left him around 8 and my great grandfather left my mom’s Dad when he was young, my dad and grandpa got to grow up without dads, my great grandpa showed up one day after abandoning him for over 40 years and my grandpa slammed the door in his face… Sucks so many Dads and Moms dgaf
Yes.....for all of them.
Same happened to my great-grandfather. I believe his father left and passed into white society.
Notice she hesitated when he asked what she liked about him'? Must be hard to find anything after what he did, wounds heal slowly over time... Yes and they leave scars, a constant reminder.
Maybe she never liked him and he knew it. What if she hated him and he knew it. The only "real" thing he took from her was himself. He let her keep everything. Odds are the outcome of a divorce would have been her ending up with everything. What if he knew divorce odds (including losing his kids) and didn't want the headache of the court?
What is there to like?
Jill Amoroso she probably likes that he left? Haha and is getting what he deserves now.
@@johnvanegmond1812 Leave it to a man again to make excuses for other men who are cowards & lame excuse for a man to start with let alone a "Father". You're all making presumptions trying to make her look bad & make him look good? the con-artist? the coward? Who deserted one family, stole an identity & lied to his 2nd family? How do they sleep at night?
@@johnvanegmond1812 I don't think you comprehend the debilitating stress, shock and anxiety he put his family through! They didn't know whether he was dead or alive! Losing their home and cars to the bank, selling their possessions, moving, finding a cheap place to live, trying to find money for food and basics, etc etc etc etc! All the while dealing with police and being investigated!! People suffer complete breakdowns under such severe stress!
My son’s father passed away when he was a week away from turning 2. I’ve had dreams (more like bitter-sweet nightmares) of finding out he faked his death and his family was in on it the whole time just so he could leave the responsibility of a child and a partner for another woman who was younger (I was literally 22 when he passed so any younger would be concerning lmao) and I find out and the feeling is unlike anything I can describe, it literally messes with my head for the rest of the day after waking up from something like that, so to know this woman and her children LIVED my actual nightmare is horrifying. My partner didn’t go missing and I had to see his body so I know in reality it’s not possible for it happen to myself and our son but this also got me thinking about the possibility of someone just walking around out there using his death as a way for them to steal his identity and create a life in his name that we are no even remotely aware of. It’s a scary world out there. Shame on this idiot for putting his original family through this and then going on to create a brand new family to drag along through the fire with them as well in the end. Ugh.
What do you mean "he used the death certificate to get a birth certificate"???
The family lost their home and had the car repossessed. Kids grew up poor. Grr. While he marries, buys a house and a plane. Grrr. P.S. Identify theft is still happening. Stay safe.
manic hairdo lol shows that it’s the person that controls the money but the majority of the time money controls the person
jorge rodriguez I don’t think you understood my comment
I can't take you seriously with the growling lmao.
Not one, but four houses in florida. I think he's a psychopath. I also think people should have to get a background check when they apply for a marriage certificate.
It certainly identifies who was productive and who was the leech in the relationship. There is a reason some wives are referred to as the ball and chain.
My dads still at the fucking grocery store and it's been 5 years. It's all good he'll be back soon
He probs stuck in an aile trying to make up his mind on a cough medicine but they keep adding new brands every time he comes to a decision.
Brian Zmolek ur profile pic matches your statement perfecty
Lmfaoooooo this was a good 😂 laugh at 3am lmaooo
I’m back son. You sure got taller.
Better get the milk in the fridge before it goes bad
How could he do that?? The leaving is bad enough!! But letting your wife, children, and family think your dead - never knowing what happened. Leaving them with nothing. Wow.
My great grandpa left my great grandma and the kids and went from oklahoma to new orleans. My grandmother showed up at his door at 14 and asked why he had a whole other family. He left about 1925.
This shit happens in my hood like 3 times a week lol
iSmellbak0n 😂😂😂
Gabe 80 ha ha ha!
Lmao
Sjors, lol
Gabe 80 right ? That's real.
I'm glad he didn't kill his wife/ wife and kids like other worms have. He has no idea the value of his own kids who he threw away like they were nothing. The grandmother is a beautiful soul who defines family more than that thing ever will.
I LIKED HOW SHE LAUGHED ABOUT HIS FUTURE CONFINEMENT!
I have a feeling his mother knew he was okay the whole time, hence the reason she helped them
Worms?
Regardless he Owes the Wife and Kids a fortune in alimony and child support.
@Jennifer Davis congrats on guessing out of nowhere goofball
If you are married and you want out then do the adult thing and get a divorce, along with all the consequences of that. Not that complicated.
Her mom, made me feel that pain for your daughter. 😢
why not just get a divorce
Mr. Cool Dad because a divorce is easy as going thru a drive thru at mcdonalds.. uhhhmmm lemme get a large coke and a divorce.. thanks..
Because then he would have to pay child support.
Milwaukee Brewers that would be better than what he did. ummm let me get a large coke and a whole new identity, wife kid, family, job and oh yea i would like to avoid all legal liability
Because he would be held financially responsible for the family (children) he co-created. He was too selfish to do that, so he disappeared himself. Glad he'll spend a big chunk of time in jail. Fucking POS.
poptartdom but he wouldn't have been able to use any of his money from the bank because the police would have found him
Wow, he wears his Dad's ring to remind himself of a, "Bad example", reminding himself everyday of the pain and suffering of a horrible Father. He does not want to become a bad example for his children, like his Father was to him. That's deep. God Bless you and your family. 🙏
Nah, I think he still wants his dad. See how he’s hoping that he just got involved with bad people/dealings to justify his disappearing? If he sees him, he’ll probably run to his dad’s arms and tell him how much he loves him and misses him and it’s all mom’s fault. Weakling!
@@jaymoulic8144 not sure about it
@@jaymoulic8144 loving your parent whether they do you right or wrong does not make you a weakingly. Saying your statement makes you one and shows you need therapy.
What a good man his son turned out. He certainly doesn't deserve the honor his son kept for him. The mother did a good job.
It’s self torture.
Is there any more updates on the story on whether or not he ever got to see his boys or his younger son got to meet his older brothers?
A lot of dead beat fathers like this that are extremely greedy
I love the grandma. It “tickles her” that he’s confined now. I chucked. Love you grams.
I love the grandma "he doesn't like small confined spaces....that tickles me" haha u go grandma
"He can't stand to be confined in any one place and now he can't go anywhere. It just kinda tickles me a little bit." If you are going to quote at least make an effort to get it right!
@@nw6070 you’re responding as if she decided to mishear what was said.
@@alicemiriah nope. She was just too lazy to go back and check the wording and also actually got the meaning/ content wrong. Its also not the end of the world or makes her a bad person. Its just mildly annoying when people dont make an effort
@@nw6070 k
@@nw6070 Agreed. Appreciate you "quoting" her accurately.
This makes me respect real fathers more. I also wish my father wanted to be around, but life doesn’t work that way. You try to strengthen yourself and move on.
@Hello there, how are you doing this blessed day?
Geez, I was NOT expecting that. What that man did was so messed up!!!!
They are so lucky to have a grandmother like her, said that's my daughter and I had to help her, that's how it should be family is amazing and thank goodness for love
“he can’t stand to be confined to any one place and now he can’t go anywhere” sums up the whole story 😭
Question to all you people out there in a Unhappy Marriage.... is Divorce really that bad? That you're only option is faking your Deaths or killing your Spouses?
SAD for this family Man is a Bastard for Leaving his family May he pay for this!
and he would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for those meddling kids & that dog!
Dookie Bob 😂
Dookie Bob I get the reference
😂😂😂😂😂
Dookie Bob 😂😂🤣🤣😂😂😂😂🤣🤣
nigling scooby doo, kid
The Dad was a Coward..
He just wanted a New Life...
He's a coward because
He left his kids BEHIND....
Pedro Gallegos you’re a fucking moron.
@@shlacked2690 we found our deadbeat guy
He could’ve just killed em like Chris watts
That's a true statement
Pedro Gallegos I agree a dead beat dad I know a few and they suck I'm not a better for knowing them
My friend in Mexico, the dad left them, she was 13 and had a 10 year old brother, 8 and a 1 year old sisters.
They though maybe he was kidnapped or something happened to him. The mom and my friend had to get jobs, they started cleaning hotels. A few years ago the mistress dropped him off at the wife's house in a wheelchair. She didn't want anything with him, the son took him in.
One tip. If you gonna just leave your home without telling anything to your loved ones. Before leaving change your name and all important documents then leave.
Police will only look for your previous name they won't imagine that you changed your name.
The grandmother's grief was just heartbreaking!!
The parrot u mean
@@AA-bs3iy Were you dropped on your head as a child?
Why would the grandmother have grief ? She wasn't in a relationship with Richard. The grandmother seems more upset about having to financially help her daughter. Truth is.... Richard didn't want anything to do with Linda anymore. Linda and her mother seems like two vindictive women, who would've made Richard's life miserable.
I can’t even do that well in life with my own identity.
LOL! I was thinking something similar. I was thinking of all the people who whine about how they can't change their lives for the better. Here's an example of how one can start over and rebuild. His crime was dumping his wife and kids into a mess, but skipping that part, the rebuild part can be done by anyone.
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LoL
I was thinking the same thing.
first thing that came to my mind is this lady could have been locked up for his disappearance, wow
And I would of gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for that meddling kid !!
Fuck that kid
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Rut roh Shaggie!
Well done!
Now That's funny😂😂
In February 2017, Hoagland pleaded guilty to a charge of aggravated identity theft. He served nearly two years in federal prison before returning to Indiana in April.
Meanwhile, his wife pursued him in court for child support. Earlier this month, a judge in Hamilton County Indiana decided Hoagland owes his wife and sons $1.86 million, the Star reported.
"I was glad that we finally had made it to that point where he would be held accountable for his behavior," Linda Iseler told the Star.
Douglas Hoagland, also out of custody, was on hand for the recent court hearing. It was the first time he had seen his father since 1993.
"If you think you had two kids and you wanted to see them so bad, you think you'd be a little bit emotional," Douglas recalled to the Star. "But this guy, nothing."
It's unclear if Iseler and her sons will get any money from the judgment. Hoagland's assets are tied up in divorce proceedings with his Florida wife.
Thank terry this was the result
Technically their not actually married because he used a name that wasn't even his. He was already married, when he got married rendering the new marriage null and void.
Might as well disappear again. Leave the country at this point.
@@candicedawson4264 Yes anything that happen his first wife and 2 sons should get every Penny!
So the ex-wife’s get half of half 😂
Sad story particularly for his children. I’m not surprised they found him in Florida. Sunshine State is full of people trying to start over.
My wife mother did same to her left her and never ever came back terrible how people can forget their kids
Can someone explain how you get a birth certificate with a death certificate?
He did not use the certificate its' self but the information on it.
@@davidhenderson3400 thank you so much....I was so baffled
That's actually an old way to obtain new ID. We were given a death certificate but the IRS would only except the birth certificate. So we had to apply for a birth certificate for our deceased daughter for the IRS audit. 🤨
@@black_jackledemon6298 another proof how their system is fucked, sorry you had to go through that man.
@@black_jackledemon6298 But that was for a different person, not for yourself.
he was on a "business trip"
carz club Haha wow
yet declared dead 😂😂😂
carz club yeha a 23 year businesses trip
carz club he went to get milk
Life has its way to achieve pleasure and prevent pain ...
Who amongst us never been in that scenario ...
I feel so terribly sorry for his sons that he abandoned. Bad enough to ditch their mother, but to not only just walk out of their lives, then have the balls to send a casual, "maybe I'll see you sometime" card to them later, was to me proof that this POS was a sociopath who had no heart, while those of his sons ached for their father. I hope he sits in confinement a good long time, and eats up all the "freedom" and joy he stole from his family so long ago. Condolences to them and their mother, and that's only the first of two families he shattered. All were damaged beyond belief because of one man's selfishness.
0:06 "Why would a seemingly happy husband and father disappear?..."
uh. cause he's "seemingly happy". duh.
SweetAmber what about his kids
Robin Gagan He obviously didn't give a shit
It's because this ex wife is bat shit crazy, you can tell. This fool needed to just dip.
Lol!!
SweetAmber 🤣🤣🤣
damn as a father, i feel bad for his children.
hevert pacheco h
hevert pacheco as a partner, I sure as hell dont.
Get bad vibes from that chick, bitch vibes.
Love the grandma....and the family too ❤️❤️😘❤️
“He was fun to be with.”
That’s all she could come up with, and it took her awhile even then.
Lol this guy went full Jason Bourne!
"jesus christ its jason bourne"
Motherfucking Nightwing MATT DAMONNNN
Julius Caesar this isnt funny, this is just disrespectful.
More like full Krusty, the Clown.
Julius Caesar was gay