That's why I don't believe in the death sentence. I understand how people believe that pedophiles and serial killers deserve death but the fact the innocent people can be put on death row terrifies me.
I believe Richard has said he left his family due to thinking they were not really his family but replaced by skrulls(Reptilians) but has since admitted he was wrong and just scared to be tried down. heres some of his conspiracy theorys on ancient aliens and the face o n mars. ruclips.net/user/results?search_query=Richard+Hoagland
"He can't stand to be in any one place, now he can't go anywhere. It tickles me a bit." I loved her response. So sweet but with the right amount of shade.
Tyler Echardt that doesn’t mean there isn’t damage already done. I have a family friend who has extensive trauma from thinking her mother abandoned her, when really her mother was murdered by a serial murderer trucker.
xxLaKalypsoxx exactly what I was thinking. It’s a terrible reflection of just how low modern societies have sunk. I do not believe humans have evolved much if at all. They simply have a new facade like savages in suits. Sad ☹️
@@frankboff1260 while its true that modern society has its flaws, to suggest that we aren't living in the best society ever is ignorant. In history murders, killings, and crimes were legal hell even encouraged and there wasn't any laws or people to enforce them. There were senseless genocides, barbaric stonings and beatings everyday. If someone was found out to have stolen property or cheated on their spouse then they would be dragged into the center of their village and the residents would all throw rocks at them and beat them to death. Nowadays we have a much more civilized and sensible way of solving problems, better morals, and respect for life.
He didn't want to pay alimony or child support!! It's OBVIOUS. He wanted to leave his wife and kids and not accept any responsibility. He wasn't coerced. He wasn't mixed with bad people. He left cause he didn't care about his kids but only cared about his damn self. Shame.
@@reptilian2998 Quoting you: ""Why dad one the lottery and did something like this""!!! What are you saying? I can't even begin to understand your comment!!!
My dad did the same thing in 1964. When someone disappears the wife and kids pay the price. My mom could not receive any financial help. No social security benefits for the children, no life insurance, no help with food and so much more. The wife is left with all the financial debt. Back in the 60’s women were not allowed to have a bank account or credit card without the signature of her husband. Any man or woman that does this should be thrown in prison.
Siyovaxsh En-sipad-zid-ana Boy ain't that the truth. I see it so much it's CRAZY. Destroying their families over a new fling at drop off a hat. That almost all women too.
Yes, he is the ultimate dead beat dad. How can someone to walk away, disappear and never speak to his family again. Al for what? To start a new one....If he did not want to be with her anymore, then he should have divorced her. Why should his 2 sons suffer because he cannot face responsibilities. I feel sorry for both wives, and all children involved. So sad.
I literally laughed out loud when the interviewer asked, were you at all glad that he was alive? And she pauses and says, I don't remember that feeling haha
I doubt he's one of those misogynists who fill every internet comment section whinging about how it isn't fair women this or women that, as he left his wife everything when he went off, instead of leaving her with nothing after years of faithful marriage. He probably had some kind of breakdown.
Those last words are chilling, "I wear it to remind me of a bad example." I feel for his kids, being traded in for another life. I hope those two young men are wonderful fathers, and remain good to their mother.
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and as well for the oppisote sometime women do simular things to that many stories out there
It is a bit ridiculous, but, having gone through it recently with a deceased parent, I now know you need just about everything, (birth certificate, death certificate, marriage license(s), marriage dissolution paperwork, and a ton of other paperwork), when it comes time to get deal with a deceased's estate. I imagine it is at least somewhat similar in most western countries.
Just to explain, he didn't actually show people the death certificate to get the birth certificate. He used the data in the death certificate to get it.
My mother left just like that when I was 3 years old and my sister was 1 years old. I never understood how a parent could just abandon their children like that and never wish to contact them. I understand having issues with your spouse but abandoning your children, I will never understand. I'm glad that after all the years this man's family got some closure on what happened to their father. It's been over 30 years since we last saw our mother. I heard she started a new life without us. I pray that wherever she is that God forgives her.
You all could have gotten too much to handle..Kids are a big responsibility, and many women are not given the choice to be child free. Mental pressure is a huge thing!! I am sry u had to go thru that, but I can undrstnd her situation as well..Maybe you can be a better parent to ur kid, that is, if u want any!!
Aliey Ball : hopefully she can get half of his estate but while he in jail she can’t get any child support, my daughters children’s father is and has been in jail for five years, kids were babies when he was incarcerated and she cant get child support because of that, she is raising them and supporting them by working two jobs! But the homes he owned has mortgages she can’t even get money from those, sad situations for the mother and children left behind,
She shouldn’t as long as the houses have mortgages , and also they aren’t under his name technically so it would be very hard for the original family to get a dime from him
Milwaukee Brewers that would be better than what he did. ummm let me get a large coke and a whole new identity, wife kid, family, job and oh yea i would like to avoid all legal liability
Because he would be held financially responsible for the family (children) he co-created. He was too selfish to do that, so he disappeared himself. Glad he'll spend a big chunk of time in jail. Fucking POS.
My aunt vanished like this and was declared dead. It happened way before I was born. She and her two year old daughter just vanished one day, along with the babies father. Foul play was suspected, especially when they found my two year old cousin abandoned in a orphanage across the country months and months later. My aunt never used her social security number after that. After police gave up, my grandmother hired private detectives, who never found a trace. Over 15 years later, my grandmother gets a letter from New Mexico. My aunt is alive, and it said "by the time you read this, I will be on my way driving to Michigan to visit" I was like 8. All I knew is suddenly, days before Christmas, my dad announced we were spending Christmas in Florida. We didnt have the kind of money for vacations. Christmas morning we opened presents and packed up and drove to Florida. I found out when I was older, that when my dad found out that my aunt had been alive this entire time, had abandoned her daughter for her mother to raise, he was enraged and refused to be in the state when she showed up. She never explained what happened. Never gave even her own mother any answers for what happened, where she went, why she was gone, why new Mexico? I started getting gifts in the mail, my aunt had signed me and my little sister up for these "animal of the month" clubs, we got different books about different animals each month and this binder to put the cards about the animals in. That is when my parents had to sit us down and explain my dad had a sister, he had never told us(well never told me and my sister, my mom knew lol). Then a year and a half later, my uncle died and my aunt came here for the funeral. I met her for the first time. She looked significantly older than my dad, her skin just looked like she lived a really rough life. She had this deep scratchy voice that scared me and I've always wondered what those 15+ years were like. Was she trafficked? Was she running from a crime and came back because the statute of limitations ran out? Was she harmed? She's still alive but she will never give answers to those questions
@@moseymay1772 Yeah, the inquisitive part of me wishes she felt comfortable talking about it. When she abandoned my two year old cousin, authorities were thankfully able to locate her and reunite her with my grandparents. They legally adopted her(which technically makes her my cousin by blood and my aunt by law lol). When my aunt resurfaced, she tried to start a relationship with her daughter again but it didn't really work out. The fact that she won't even tell my cousin what happened, when my cousin disappeared with her, is so wild to me. I can't imagine how confusing that had to be for my cousin, when the mother she assumed was dead, suddenly came to visit for Christmas and didn't want to explain where she had been for the last 15+ years of her life.
@@Juwlz I know what you mean about your inquisitive part, one of my close relatives kept a secret such as this. The older I get, the more I witness proof that life can have very many twists, turns and crazy circumstances !
@@TheWestlandgirl right! My grandmother searched for her for so long, she never gave up hope in finding her daughter. She adopted her toddler and raised her as her own. So when she finally surfaced, and didn't answer any questions, never gave any explanation, and suddenly wanted the daughter she abandoned, to call HER Mom? My grandmother was heartbroken. The fact that she thought she was going to be in the will, after all she had done and the way she behaved after coming back 🤦🏻♀️ that was shocking. When she discovered she wasn't getting money from the sale of my grandmother's home, that was the last time we heard from her. She raged out and drove back to new Mexico and that was that
@@sleepypie3179 basically an "honest question" is just not wanting to sugar coat something.. in other words, ur being honest. I could ask u why you're having a hard time understanding, or i can ask u why tf ur so stupid... thats an honest question.
My boys were the same age when my husband died. I know for a fact how much and how long kids suffer from the loss of a parent they loved. This man is a heartless POS.
Agreed its probably worst at least when u pass away you can reason but running away and then to find out he had a kid. But really I bet he if he didnt run away would have killed himself. Most men under alot of pressure do. So i guess that's my thought it's better he ran than kill himself. But the boys it's so unfair for them. And I bet her world and the way it hurt her too. Sad.
"He told me it was family issues with his wife and children." What kind of issues do you have with a NINE and a SIX YEAR OLD?? Bad enough to abandon your family, but to just disappear without a word, leaving them fearing what had happened to you. Whether you'd been taken against your will and are being held somewhere, or got caught up with some dangerous people. Whether you'd been murdered ... It's heartless.
There's always two sides to a story. Some people have a legitimate personality disorder and that may stem from traumatic experiences during childhood. It baffles me as well why parents abandon or alienate their kids but like I said there's two sides to every story. Just something to think about... Not that it justifies his actions but this narc could have done a world of damage if he didnt leave. Could have been the best scenerio for the family he left behind.
My "Dad" did something similar to my Mom, my sister and me. He left us in '94. He got up really early in the morning, stole ALL our money, filled a backpack with some clothing and just vanished. We didn't get a card, or a letter, nor a single word or lead of where he was. 25 years later, now in my 40s, I found him but he got away before I could reach him (thankfully for his well-being). It turnd out he never changed his name, but he got married again and had a child and a totally different family. He ruined our lives 'cause we got kicked out of the house we were renting, and ended up living with his brother's wife's derelict motel. I had to abandon my education to support my Mom and sister (we were 14 and 16 when he left). With a little bit of luck I'll find him again and we can have a little "chat" man to man...
Wow I'm so sorry you went through that.... I hope you are in a better place. My father left me as well. I didn't understand as a child and even a teenager. I felt abandoned. I felt unwanted unloved.. but as I grew into my 20's I learned the World. And I Learned people. And I learned the things people do are on THEM and the person THEY are. It was not me. My father was just a looser and a coward. It had nothing to do with me. And I. Really happy to be free from all those feelings. I could not imagine bringing those feelings into my adult life.. I hope you chose to take control of your life and know it wasn't you that made him leave. It's the person who LEFT who is at fault.
@@iamtherealamandajo3990 Hey dude. Sorry to hear that also, but it seems you turned out better than him. And yeah, I learned from a really young age that he was the problem, not us, and thankfully my Mom was a trooper and she did everything in her hands to give us the best life she could with the little we had. I learnt a couple of months back that he died (supposedly), so he got away with everything he did. That's my only regret, not being able to find him sooner to at least kick his ass, but unfortunately, here in Argentina you don't have the luxury of wasting time and money without working to go find a man that didn't want to be found. Anyway... thanks for sharing your story and all the best to you! Cheers from Buenos Aires!
What I don't understand is "Why" these wretched men aren't made accountable. You can't make them love their children but you can make them financially accountable and take the burden 'off" the Welfare system. I just can't understand how this could be okay. So many of them go on to live good lives.
The family lost their home and had the car repossessed. Kids grew up poor. Grr. While he marries, buys a house and a plane. Grrr. P.S. Identify theft is still happening. Stay safe.
Not one, but four houses in florida. I think he's a psychopath. I also think people should have to get a background check when they apply for a marriage certificate.
It certainly identifies who was productive and who was the leech in the relationship. There is a reason some wives are referred to as the ball and chain.
My ex left me & our 3 children when they were 9, 11 & 13. No one could find him, not even the Cops. 10 years later he tried to walk right back into their lives. They showed more grace & mercy, after some time, than he deserved. They said it was always awkward, never the same & they had a kind of relationship with him for 4 years before he passed away. It affected the children terribly, especially the boys.
Several people I know have had the same with husbands and fathers. The men wanted to come back when the hard work has been done. It was not wonderful for any of the relationships.
Internet is giving access to everyones personal info nowadays remember not to trust web for personal id info. Id is tried to be stolen everyday partly by email, cloud services etc., check your hotmail or google account login attempts for example . Taiwan, Iran , Russia, Europe etc..all the time some is hacking to get info and power over my life and yours
Imagine how many people accused her of doing something to him. So many looking at her with negative thoughts. He should be ordered to pay child support and pay her for her pain and suffering! God Bless that woman!
Honestly and I know this is a random thing to say I think this is probably the same deal with that lady from Tiger King Carol Baskin that the internet insists killed her husband. I was so fascinated with the case I looked into it and it seems more like the guy likely ran off to Costa Rica. I think there’s more cases like this out there than people realize
My father walked away and I was eventually adopted, what I found out afterwards is as the parent you have to surrender all your rights to the child. He wanted to meet me and my two sisters when we got older. We did go to meet him and instantly disliked him , he was a good looking man and knew it . He was a real con man, we never wanted to see or hear from him again, just before he died he wanted contact again , but NO! He never paid his dues as a father. We were better off without him! The strange thing was .. my mother died when I was young so our adoptive father raised us. I’ve made sure my kids had a good life
@@rowanbowyer6560 As a 76 year old mother, I'm here to tell you, you are a better man than your father was!! People are born to teach us the difference between good or bad, by watching them, it is our choice as to how we live our lives, good for you!!
@BigMomma Btd what that have yo do with it i have a some white friends that grew up without there father i'ts not a color thing it's a human situation gods loves you and he do not see color have a bless day.
My grandfather left....just like that. My dad was eight. There's just something that happens to you inside when a parent checks out, never to return. I really feel for the kids in all of this.
My grandpa too. Became a millionaire, worked for nasa, started his new family. Never met the guy and I share his last name. He's dead now. My sister got to meet him but she, God bless her soul, passed 3 years ago at 24. I never even got to talk to her about him. Damn life is hard and confusing.
@@jessecrawford8450 Indeed, life is confusing. My grandfather's sister lived 12 blocks from me for 10 years. I could have walked to her house and got all the answers we wanted. But we didn't know. I found her on Ancestry five years ago. Died in 2000.. I'm so sorry you didn't get to speak with your grandpa or get your sister's opinion of him. And so very sorry for the loss of your sister. I pray your family's been able to heal. We've learned forgiveness is the first step. Sending a hug, and wishing you peace.
@@jessecrawford8450 My Dad’s father left him around 8 and my great grandfather left my mom’s Dad when he was young, my dad and grandpa got to grow up without dads, my great grandpa showed up one day after abandoning him for over 40 years and my grandpa slammed the door in his face… Sucks so many Dads and Moms dgaf
My sister knew a married couple who had a toddler son. The mother gave the father an ultimatum - either we give the boy up for adoption, or I'm leaving both of you because I don't want to be a mother. Of course the father was appalled and said no way was he abandoning his son. The wife kept her word and walked out on them both. As far as I know she never looked back. Some people are incapable of loving anyone besides themselves.
Notice she hesitated when he asked what she liked about him'? Must be hard to find anything after what he did, wounds heal slowly over time... Yes and they leave scars, a constant reminder.
Maybe she never liked him and he knew it. What if she hated him and he knew it. The only "real" thing he took from her was himself. He let her keep everything. Odds are the outcome of a divorce would have been her ending up with everything. What if he knew divorce odds (including losing his kids) and didn't want the headache of the court?
@@johnvanegmond1812 Leave it to a man again to make excuses for other men who are cowards & lame excuse for a man to start with let alone a "Father". You're all making presumptions trying to make her look bad & make him look good? the con-artist? the coward? Who deserted one family, stole an identity & lied to his 2nd family? How do they sleep at night?
@@johnvanegmond1812 I don't think you comprehend the debilitating stress, shock and anxiety he put his family through! They didn't know whether he was dead or alive! Losing their home and cars to the bank, selling their possessions, moving, finding a cheap place to live, trying to find money for food and basics, etc etc etc etc! All the while dealing with police and being investigated!! People suffer complete breakdowns under such severe stress!
I'm glad he didn't kill his wife/ wife and kids like other worms have. He has no idea the value of his own kids who he threw away like they were nothing. The grandmother is a beautiful soul who defines family more than that thing ever will.
This is why I highly discourage people (specifically women) from being completely financially dependent on someone else. You never know what’s going to happen. Be smart.
@@calilife5109 you do not speak like a husband, father, war vet or working man. You DO SPEAK THE WORDS OF MANY RACISTS AND REPUBLICANS😜 and they are not simply being badass funny
Chris Torres sorry for the late reply, but yes it is legal. He has a financial and custodial responsibility to help out raising those kids... So yes, in most states, she can take him to civil court n sue him for compensation
The way he taunted his family with the birthday card is particularly despicable. What a deadbeat! Let’s hope his hole gets widened a couple of inches while in prison.
A little update on this. He was convicted and served two years in jail. After getting out his second wife divorced him. In 2018 his first wife sued him for back child support in which the judge added the maximum interest of 18%. He was ordered to pay nearly two million. It's doubtful that they ever got a dime.
Yea. She won a Civil suit for $1.8mil. Just think, she would have saved her sons, her mother, & herself from hardship and heartache if she had just treated him better.
Wow, he wears his Dad's ring to remind himself of a, "Bad example", reminding himself everyday of the pain and suffering of a horrible Father. He does not want to become a bad example for his children, like his Father was to him. That's deep. God Bless you and your family. 🙏
Nah, I think he still wants his dad. See how he’s hoping that he just got involved with bad people/dealings to justify his disappearing? If he sees him, he’ll probably run to his dad’s arms and tell him how much he loves him and misses him and it’s all mom’s fault. Weakling!
@@jaymoulic8144 loving your parent whether they do you right or wrong does not make you a weakingly. Saying your statement makes you one and shows you need therapy.
My father disappeared for almost 20 years and I found him on Facebook, I didn't have negative feelings against him, I met him and our relationship did not work out
@@morestuff64058 I get it, I'm just wondering how long someone should hold on to that? I learned years ago that you cannot hold someone accountable anymore than they are willing to hold themselves accountable.
Don't like the blaming the wife thing. Its been 23 years to that interview. Of co use she doesn't remember why she loves him. Probably only remembers why she hates him. And you have no idea what she could have been like that long ago. Sooooo just get over it?
Lol right. Nobody here knows what his life was like. Not saying leaving the kids like that is ok. It wasnt their fault. But, sounds like they had a lot of nice stuff and lived expensive with him the only one providing. She could of kept demanding and demanding a better life from him. He probably said fuck it after awhile. I love how they added "no more vacations." Like that needed to he including with all the other things impacted from him leaving.
@@steveoo6 Back in the day, our society was set up in a way that allowed children to be raised by their mothers instead of daycares. As the financial provider, he could have easily set limits on how the money was spent. IF she was making efforts to over spend as you suggest. It had nothing to do with money & everything to do with him being a cowardly bastard who didn't care about his family.
@@trayceevalen2134 Thats a good point man. Hes def no saint for doing what he did. Once you have kids then you need to be there for them at all costs. I just thought it was superficial to mention the vacations lol. I mean the worst part was leaving the kids but for some reason they had to throw in the fact there was no more vacations.
@@steveoo6 Okay, It see what you're saying. Vacations are definitely a luxury type of thing. Imagine going from vacations to not knowing how you will feed & clothe your children though. Big old turd needs punished for his actions.
@@steveoo6 Leave to a man to put the blame on the woman. She really looks like a demanding overspender! Give me a break! The only reason the vacation comment was thrown in was because he left blah Indiana to spending his days at the beaches of Florida vacation life style! Big Duh there dude! 😂
My grandfather left exactly just like that. My mom was nine and have 8 other siblings, the youngest was just months old. I'm so proud of my grandmother for being strong for all those years. In 2016 my uncle tracked his half-sister in facebook and in 2017 my sister and I met our half-uncle?? And said that they only found out they were second family (only the children, the second wife knew it all along) when they applied for death insurance and my grandmother was still listed as his wife on paper. P.S. they also left their two other children in my mom's home town in young age before they disappeared. Sadly the younger girl died as what my mom said and until now they didn't have a clue where the other one who is a boy maybe in his 40's now. After that they had 3 other children and they graduated with a degree in college while my mom and her other 8 siblings grew up struggling in poverty with my grandmother who worked hard for them to survive.
LOL! I was thinking something similar. I was thinking of all the people who whine about how they can't change their lives for the better. Here's an example of how one can start over and rebuild. His crime was dumping his wife and kids into a mess, but skipping that part, the rebuild part can be done by anyone.
Why would the grandmother have grief ? She wasn't in a relationship with Richard. The grandmother seems more upset about having to financially help her daughter. Truth is.... Richard didn't want anything to do with Linda anymore. Linda and her mother seems like two vindictive women, who would've made Richard's life miserable.
I feel so terribly sorry for his sons that he abandoned. Bad enough to ditch their mother, but to not only just walk out of their lives, then have the balls to send a casual, "maybe I'll see you sometime" card to them later, was to me proof that this POS was a sociopath who had no heart, while those of his sons ached for their father. I hope he sits in confinement a good long time, and eats up all the "freedom" and joy he stole from his family so long ago. Condolences to them and their mother, and that's only the first of two families he shattered. All were damaged beyond belief because of one man's selfishness.
He has been charged and forced to pay $2 million dollars to his exwife and children :/ so I guess that ain't too cool The moral of the story: don't get found out if ur running away from ur family and living under a fake identity.
My mother did not cry when my father died, I guess she felt she did enough crying doing the marriage. The same with this women, why should she feel guilty about hating him, I would for sure.
@@everythingmatters6308 well she was ragging on her dead father .. that's even worse than kicking someone when their down. Also I'm sure she doesn't know know full story about everything. Women just always take other womens side no matter what.
My father left my Mom, brother and I when I was 2 I believe. He was a drug addict and decided to be with another woman who had 2 kids of her own. He evaded getting served to pay child support. Thankfully, my Mom had a degree and a job. I eventually met him and I asked him why he didn't try to see us when he cleaned up his act and he said he wanted us to think he was dead. He married that woman, raised her kids and had another child. I'm 43 and a Mom and I cannot wrap my head around not knowing if you're children are okay. Why do so many men abandon their families?
Something tells me Gian and NT both have personal experience on some level, but are misdirecting their anger. (you can give my investigative award later) You guys should really talk about it though.
@rumpleforeskin73 If that was the case it would have come up in the report. It is not just his wife and kids he cut off. I assume he cut off his own parents, cousins etc. You notice none of his family appeared to defend him on the segment.
I know how you feel when your dad not in your life when you are young.Lonely n lost. 17 yrs later I went to live with him. He was rich, n greedy. He was selfish. I be broke while drove n had money on him. I was 23yo lived with him 2 yrs. No privacy.Bought a house cash.But wouldn't help his own son with money.Sadly I left him. You can't teach old dog new tricks. Years later he was killed brutal way. Broke my heart! I still miss him. RIP
"He can't stand to be confined in any one place and now he can't go anywhere. It just kinda tickles me a little bit." If you are going to quote at least make an effort to get it right!
@@alicemiriah nope. She was just too lazy to go back and check the wording and also actually got the meaning/ content wrong. Its also not the end of the world or makes her a bad person. Its just mildly annoying when people dont make an effort
My Dad disappeared when I was very young. This was in around 1957. We moved in with my Grandparents on my Mother's side. Honestly I don't remember missing him at all. Never heard a word from anyone on my Dad's side of the family, ever. Didn't bother me then and doesn't bother me now. My father called me when I was 22 and I met with him. We talked and he died 6 months later. So to sum it all up my Mother eventually re married a successful man that legally adopted me giving me his last name and my Mom went on to have 3 more children ( 2 boys and 1 girl ) which are my wonderful siblings. We are very close. Do I have questions? yes. Would I go back and change things if I could? no It is what it is and my Dad made his choice and I made mine.
That's actually an old way to obtain new ID. We were given a death certificate but the IRS would only except the birth certificate. So we had to apply for a birth certificate for our deceased daughter for the IRS audit. 🤨
Yeah, and she said "She's my daughter - so of course I'm going to help her". That contrasted with her AWOL son-in-law who created the need for her to help her daughter. He utterly abandoned his responsibility to his wife and to help HIS children even letting his 6 & 9 yo sons think he was dead. The man has NO CLASS, NO CHARACTER. Just lived for his own wants, never mind his family's needs or even basic human decency.
So sad. He has hurt everyone he claimed to love. Very very sad. My heart goes out to both of his families and the family of the man who's identity he had stolen.
@Freedom by Fire It can happen to both sexes honey and you don't know for sure that his wife is the kind of women you are talking about so now you are blaming one party without knowlegde so stop bitching and crying
@jean-luc paradis Of course your daughter hates you you just said you abandoned her. If the mom was that bad you woulda went to court for split custody. Only punks abandon their own blood
This is exactly why you always have an emergency savings account if you're a stay at home mom--one that he doesn't know about. Don't depend 100% on anyone to provide for you because of situations like this. It's the sad truth. There are so many stories of men just walking out on their wives and children. It's utterly insane. So if you're a stay-at-home mom, be sure to stash the weekly allowance he's giving you (LOL) and get a side hustle.
@rumpleforeskin73 Both men and women can be shady in a marriage but there are good wives and good husbands out there who go forward believing and trusting %100, losing themselves by handing over all of their trust to the other. What the "poster of this thread" was saying is, neither one of you should have %100 trust. Each person should be able to take care of themselves so when anything happens, even if one gets sick, the marriage won't fall apart.
Lmao he's not a little boy he has another family who he stayed with. If you have a family with a women you don't love you usually hate the kids cause they just keep reminding you of the woman you had them with.
I feel so bad for his 1st family, what a betrayal, and I feel bad for his second family, they have been living a lie. He ruined so many lives, I hope he gets what he deserves.
I commend this guy. He may be a crappy person who walked out on his family, but he managed to create another life, with a wife and another child. He had a few big lies but his overall life seemed to be one of accomplishment.
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He is now out, and came back with his first family he plidge mental illness. Its ok now
In February 2017, Hoagland pleaded guilty to a charge of aggravated identity theft. He served nearly two years in federal prison before returning to Indiana in April. Meanwhile, his wife pursued him in court for child support. Earlier this month, a judge in Hamilton County Indiana decided Hoagland owes his wife and sons $1.86 million, the Star reported. "I was glad that we finally had made it to that point where he would be held accountable for his behavior," Linda Iseler told the Star. Douglas Hoagland, also out of custody, was on hand for the recent court hearing. It was the first time he had seen his father since 1993. "If you think you had two kids and you wanted to see them so bad, you think you'd be a little bit emotional," Douglas recalled to the Star. "But this guy, nothing." It's unclear if Iseler and her sons will get any money from the judgment. Hoagland's assets are tied up in divorce proceedings with his Florida wife.
Technically their not actually married because he used a name that wasn't even his. He was already married, when he got married rendering the new marriage null and void.
My older kids dad has been gone ten years. I catch myself always wondering if he thinks about them. Our son is in highschool and our daughter is in middle school. It doesn't even matter to them they say because my current husband has been in our lives for eight years. He is their father now.
Snap, my sons father walked away when i was preg, came back when my son was 2 then walked away after 6 months. Hes 13 now. I do wonder if he thinks of him, if the reason he unblocked me on facebook was to try and see pics of him. My son has said he wondered the same. However my other half has been his father since he was 5 (also 8 years!) And my son now says he has a dad and isnt bothered about his real one because he was never a dad to him.
Jen Kohls same but my bio dad wants nothing to do with me only my 3 brothers his new wife and his step son he doesn’t even bother to Contact me 😭😭 but my step dad as been in my life since I was 2 and I’m 18 now so he’s my dad
My grandmothers dad did the same thing. He lived in Washington DC for 35 years then he disappeared. He went to Sonora Mexico, changed his name, opened up a mine, bought a house, married a nice Mexican lady and had my Grandmother. All his family in DC thought he was dead, he never went back. Its crazy how it was less than 100 years ago, but now its impossible to just disappear like that
Dude bAck then women took everything. No questions asked. Id dissappear to. Now days they still do. They just can't move away with kids anymore. Not shit has changed. Youre better off not having Kids until they delete the child support system and impose aa fifty fifty you both work and care for Kids. Not this woman is getting government foodstamps to feed your kids while you pay her child support to feed your Kids that she buys cigarettes and pays cell bills and car payments with "child support $" our nation is shit when it comes to kids and parenting
Technically, he's still on the hook for it. His sons could sue him for the back child support. He'd have to sell some of those properties and the boat to pay it.
It was the nagging controlling wife... he was escaping her evil clutches. It was a miserable sexless marriage. You can tell with her attitude and how the story goes that she was a real piece of work to live with LOL
@@KimAhrina11 - He found a non violent way to end the suffering. It took strength to walk away and let the old hag have it all. The old wife will get nothing... besides she had him declared dead. This is a sorry ass case. Back child support will not go to the old wife but to the state to repay welfare. No one will see a dime of anything. No winners here.
My dad moved in with a new family, already had 5 kids, but I guess we weren’t enough! The two new ones turned out to be total losers....we all make choices, right?
Wow! My dad stage a kidnapping when I was small, I’m 58 now. He put a note in the church pulpit saying he was kidnapped. This happened in Ontario, Canada. He chickened out and came back home. My parents divorced years later, because he kept disappearing. I’m still messed up from that.
The wife could have spent 23 years in jail for his 'murder'. How scary is that.
Not really correct, Dez. Many people have been jailed on circumstantial evidence. No body. No murder weapon. No evidence except 'we think you did it.'
Dez Adams or if your black.
That's why I don't believe in the death sentence. I understand how people believe that pedophiles and serial killers deserve death but the fact the innocent people can be put on death row terrifies me.
Dez Adams here in America they can do whatever they want to. they can even kill you and exonerate you 70 years later.
I believe Richard has said he left his family due to thinking they were not really his family but replaced by skrulls(Reptilians) but has since admitted he was wrong and just scared to be tried down. heres some of his conspiracy theorys on ancient aliens and the face o n mars.
ruclips.net/user/results?search_query=Richard+Hoagland
So he destroyed the lives of 2 wives, 3 children and ended up in jail. Ok.
And his mother? I would be sick if my daughter had gone.
Makes you wonder who else is “ missing” decide just to ditch their ole lives and start a new
Claire M yeah.... you say that as if the jail sentence is too lenient of a punishment. What do you want for him, the death penalty?
@@Alexandrius_Caesar No they didnt, you interpreted that way. and thats exactly why theres so much hostility on the internet nowdays.
Young Chillionaire It’s ops fault you can’t understand a simple comment?💀
Grandma is the real hero here, my hat's off for that woman.
Heck ya.
How could you leave your kids? Crazy
How is grandma a hero, I'm re watching this, still don't get it. 🤔
She is the parrot though
Aman, my Grandma was my Hero too
"He can't stand to be in any one place, now he can't go anywhere. It tickles me a bit." I loved her response. So sweet but with the right amount of shade.
Can’t imagine what rejection those boys felt...I wish them well
@Ivan Snyder why?
@Ivan Snyder no you wouldn’t, you angry 9 year olds get too upset sometimes.
Tyler Echardt that doesn’t mean there isn’t damage already done. I have a family friend who has extensive trauma from thinking her mother abandoned her, when really her mother was murdered by a serial murderer trucker.
Yah. My mom abandoned me at 14. 5 years alcoholic. I'm aaight
@@te8828 who
He didn’t want to pay alimony or child support so he abandoned his family. I’m just sad that it took 23 years for him to get caught.
Exactly that is what happen
I dont understand why is that a crime just asking
They should have make him pay for all those years of paying Alimony.
@edwin younes Why leaving a Person you dont want to be with a Crime ?
@edwin younes is this the Freedom This country talk about so much 🤔 You cant even leave someone
You know society is in trouble when people comment that "at least he didn't wipe out his entire family."
xxLaKalypsoxx exactly what I was thinking. It’s a terrible reflection of just how low modern societies have sunk.
I do not believe humans have evolved much if at all. They simply have a new facade like savages in suits.
Sad ☹️
Walk away or kill them all is a choice for some.
Its almost like the bar has been set so low that men cant ever do wrong
@@frankboff1260 while its true that modern society has its flaws, to suggest that we aren't living in the best society ever is ignorant. In history murders, killings, and crimes were legal hell even encouraged and there wasn't any laws or people to enforce them. There were senseless genocides, barbaric stonings and beatings everyday. If someone was found out to have stolen property or cheated on their spouse then they would be dragged into the center of their village and the residents would all throw rocks at them and beat them to death. Nowadays we have a much more civilized and sensible way of solving problems, better morals, and respect for life.
@Robin D. .. WoW you're patidic!
He didn't want to pay alimony or child support!! It's OBVIOUS.
He wanted to leave his wife and kids and not accept any responsibility.
He wasn't coerced. He wasn't mixed with bad people. He left cause he didn't care about his kids but only cared about his damn self. Shame.
He wasn’t mixed up with bad people, HE is the bad people.
I just read that he had to pay nearly $2 million in child support. Karma 😄
And no one should lay child support when 95 oerevctn of women use it for themselves not the child
The fact he had all that money and he chose not to help out his kids is disgusting. That's not even mentioning the disrespect to a dead man's name
My dad won the lottery and did something like this
@@reptilian2998
Quoting you:
""Why dad one the lottery and did something like this""!!! What are you saying? I can't even begin to understand your comment!!!
@@FLo-jc7ig really? You can't figure that out on your own. Is there an adult nearby? Quit being a douche bag!!
@@katjon I don't think he's being a douchebag. I don't see him name-calling . I'm sure you can figure out a way to respond without it
@@mostdopepuzzlehead3445 you really want to test that theory?
You a coward if you leave your kids in the dark like that.
Chaos Theory so he turned the lights out when he left???
Chaos Theory, DO U KNOW DA WAE?!
Gamingonmcpe please shut up.
Gamingonmcpe the meme is dead. Fuck off
Ugandan Warrior oh the irony...
He literally restarted life like in a game lol
Lolllllll!
Respawn 😂
And it was a good life too! Tricky case since he was a good member and productive person. Still a crime tho
@@queensblade5013 Lol, that woman drove him crazy, he had to leave.
@D. F. very true he could have ran and still played some part in there lifes
My dad did the same thing in 1964.
When someone disappears the wife and kids pay the price. My mom could not receive any financial help. No social security benefits for the children, no life insurance, no help with food and so much more. The wife is left with all the financial debt. Back in the 60’s women were not allowed to have a bank account or credit card without the signature of her husband.
Any man or woman that does this should be thrown in prison.
Sorry this happened to you..
Shut upppppp lol whiney women everywhere
Ryan Borgwardt just did this 😂😂
How selfish can this man be? He tore apart two families....one when he walked out and the other when it was discovered that he was living a lie.
Exactly!! He's a loser without a conscience.
Siyovaxsh En-sipad-zid-ana who hurt you?
Jessica Abbinante 😂
Siyovaxsh En-sipad-zid-ana Boy ain't that the truth. I see it so much it's CRAZY. Destroying their families over a new fling at drop off a hat. That almost all women too.
Siyovaxsh En-sipad-zid-ana dosent matter what the wife did. He had no right to do what he did. He should have just gotten a divorce
The ultimate deadbeat dad.
Frank San Nicolas illusion 100
Balraj Singh UP, UP, DOWN, DOWN, LEFT, RIGHT, LEFT, RIGHT, B, A, START
No he's just an idiot that's all
How is he a deadbeat when he worked for Nasa and has any kids he takes care of now?
ruclips.net/user/results?search_query=Richard+Hoagland
Yes, he is the ultimate dead beat dad. How can someone to walk away, disappear and never speak to his family again. Al for what? To start a new one....If he did not want to be with her anymore, then he should have divorced her. Why should his 2 sons suffer because he cannot face responsibilities. I feel sorry for both wives, and all children involved. So sad.
I literally laughed out loud when the interviewer asked, were you at all glad that he was alive? And she pauses and says, I don't remember that feeling haha
🤣🤣🤣🤣YES MA'AM!
😭
Yess haha 😂 loved the honesty there!
🤣🤣🤣I just did and then read this! Perfect timing.
And wonder why he left 🤣
The son is in clear denial tbh.
This trauma cuts deep.
divorce would have been a better option instead of that
So that he can lose all his shit and become a slave for the next 18 years to someone he obviously doesn't want anything to do with?
I doubt he's one of those misogynists who fill every internet comment section whinging about how it isn't fair women this or women that, as he left his wife everything when he went off, instead of leaving her with nothing after years of faithful marriage. He probably had some kind of breakdown.
Max Bernevek it's not about her, it's about the children!
psych96 he didn't want to pay child support
No it wouldn't.
Those last words are chilling, "I wear it to remind me of a bad example." I feel for his kids, being traded in for another life. I hope those two young men are wonderful fathers, and remain good to their mother.
and as well for the oppisote sometime women do simular things to that many stories out there
@D Legionnaire okay not sure why the plug but I went to watch it and have to say it wasn't bad
👏👏👏👏
Yiudyiyiiyy
Found a death certificate, applied for a birth certificate.... I love America
It is a bit ridiculous, but, having gone through it recently with a deceased parent, I now know you need just about everything, (birth certificate, death certificate, marriage license(s), marriage dissolution paperwork, and a ton of other paperwork), when it comes time to get deal with a deceased's estate. I imagine it is at least somewhat similar in most western countries.
Do you have any ID for this new birth certificate? Well I have my death certificate. Perfect, that will work!
@@GoingPure LOL
Just to explain, he didn't actually show people the death certificate to get the birth certificate. He used the data in the death certificate to get it.
@@GoingPure 😭😂🤣🤣
My mother left just like that when I was 3 years old and my sister was 1 years old. I never understood how a parent could just abandon their children like that and never wish to contact them. I understand having issues with your spouse but abandoning your children, I will never understand. I'm glad that after all the years this man's family got some closure on what happened to their father. It's been over 30 years since we last saw our mother. I heard she started a new life without us. I pray that wherever she is that God forgives her.
The part I don’t get is why start over the same thing you had elsewhere.
I'm so sorry you and your sister had to go through that 😔...
your heart is solid gold, i hope you learn to forgive her too
Bless you, she robbed you all and herself also.
You all could have gotten too much to handle..Kids are a big responsibility, and many women are not given the choice to be child free. Mental pressure is a huge thing!! I am sry u had to go thru that, but I can undrstnd her situation as well..Maybe you can be a better parent to ur kid, that is, if u want any!!
I think he didn't really love his wife and just wanted out... and she had no clue about it...
munobasho9: he wasn't getting any sucky sucky or fuky fuky.
What about the kids
munobasho9 yikes thats very cruel
Livin' The Dream LMAO 😂🤣😂
Livin' The Dream Sucky Sucky 10 dollar.
I hope she sued him for the years of unpaid child support.
Aliey Ball : hopefully she can get half of his estate but while he in jail she can’t get any child support, my daughters children’s father is and has been in jail for five years, kids were babies when he was incarcerated and she cant get child support because of that, she is raising them and supporting them by working two jobs! But the homes he owned has mortgages she can’t even get money from those, sad situations for the mother and children left behind,
Obviously you do.
@@southerngirlsrock2799 damn. That's a law that really needs review!!
@@southerngirlsrock2799 Found the leech
She shouldn’t as long as the houses have mortgages , and also they aren’t under his name technically so it would be very hard for the original family to get a dime from him
why not just get a divorce
Mr. Cool Dad because a divorce is easy as going thru a drive thru at mcdonalds.. uhhhmmm lemme get a large coke and a divorce.. thanks..
Because then he would have to pay child support.
Milwaukee Brewers that would be better than what he did. ummm let me get a large coke and a whole new identity, wife kid, family, job and oh yea i would like to avoid all legal liability
Because he would be held financially responsible for the family (children) he co-created. He was too selfish to do that, so he disappeared himself. Glad he'll spend a big chunk of time in jail. Fucking POS.
poptartdom but he wouldn't have been able to use any of his money from the bank because the police would have found him
My aunt vanished like this and was declared dead. It happened way before I was born. She and her two year old daughter just vanished one day, along with the babies father. Foul play was suspected, especially when they found my two year old cousin abandoned in a orphanage across the country months and months later. My aunt never used her social security number after that. After police gave up, my grandmother hired private detectives, who never found a trace. Over 15 years later, my grandmother gets a letter from New Mexico. My aunt is alive, and it said "by the time you read this, I will be on my way driving to Michigan to visit"
I was like 8. All I knew is suddenly, days before Christmas, my dad announced we were spending Christmas in Florida. We didnt have the kind of money for vacations. Christmas morning we opened presents and packed up and drove to Florida. I found out when I was older, that when my dad found out that my aunt had been alive this entire time, had abandoned her daughter for her mother to raise, he was enraged and refused to be in the state when she showed up.
She never explained what happened. Never gave even her own mother any answers for what happened, where she went, why she was gone, why new Mexico? I started getting gifts in the mail, my aunt had signed me and my little sister up for these "animal of the month" clubs, we got different books about different animals each month and this binder to put the cards about the animals in. That is when my parents had to sit us down and explain my dad had a sister, he had never told us(well never told me and my sister, my mom knew lol).
Then a year and a half later, my uncle died and my aunt came here for the funeral. I met her for the first time. She looked significantly older than my dad, her skin just looked like she lived a really rough life. She had this deep scratchy voice that scared me and I've always wondered what those 15+ years were like. Was she trafficked? Was she running from a crime and came back because the statute of limitations ran out? Was she harmed? She's still alive but she will never give answers to those questions
Julia, WoW, that's crazy. Or maybe she had to protect herself and be hidden for some reason, witnessed a crime or who knows what ?
@@moseymay1772 Yeah, the inquisitive part of me wishes she felt comfortable talking about it. When she abandoned my two year old cousin, authorities were thankfully able to locate her and reunite her with my grandparents. They legally adopted her(which technically makes her my cousin by blood and my aunt by law lol). When my aunt resurfaced, she tried to start a relationship with her daughter again but it didn't really work out. The fact that she won't even tell my cousin what happened, when my cousin disappeared with her, is so wild to me. I can't imagine how confusing that had to be for my cousin, when the mother she assumed was dead, suddenly came to visit for Christmas and didn't want to explain where she had been for the last 15+ years of her life.
@@Juwlz I know what you mean about your inquisitive part, one of my close relatives kept a secret such as this. The older I get, the more I witness proof that life can have very many twists, turns and crazy circumstances !
Hey no answers no relationships. It's the least they could do.
@@TheWestlandgirl right! My grandmother searched for her for so long, she never gave up hope in finding her daughter. She adopted her toddler and raised her as her own. So when she finally surfaced, and didn't answer any questions, never gave any explanation, and suddenly wanted the daughter she abandoned, to call HER Mom? My grandmother was heartbroken. The fact that she thought she was going to be in the will, after all she had done and the way she behaved after coming back 🤦🏻♀️ that was shocking. When she discovered she wasn't getting money from the sale of my grandmother's home, that was the last time we heard from her. She raged out and drove back to new Mexico and that was that
The cruelest question I have ever heard - “Is that a better thing for you to believe than he actually just left you “
But an honest one
Samantha mother of cats an honest question? How can a question be honest
@@sleepypie3179 im not even gonna answer that cuz it should be common sense
Samantha mother of cats He could want an honest answer but a question in itself can not be honest. It can’t lie
@@sleepypie3179 basically an "honest question" is just not wanting to sugar coat something.. in other words, ur being honest. I could ask u why you're having a hard time understanding, or i can ask u why tf ur so stupid... thats an honest question.
My boys were the same age when my husband died. I know for a fact how much and how long kids suffer from the loss of a parent they loved. This man is a heartless POS.
Agreed its probably worst at least when u pass away you can reason but running away and then to find out he had a kid. But really I bet he if he didnt run away would have killed himself. Most men under alot of pressure do. So i guess that's my thought it's better he ran than kill himself. But the boys it's so unfair for them. And I bet her world and the way it hurt her too. Sad.
Sophie Jameson ❤️
As a boy at the time who lost his dad when he was 12.
I can tell you at 31 I've never really fully recovered.
At least he didn't murder them while they were in his womb.
Are you equally disgusted by the trash that murders their unborn?
@@LyndonGrimm awwwe booohoooo poor little baby
"He told me it was family issues with his wife and children."
What kind of issues do you have with a NINE and a SIX YEAR OLD?? Bad enough to abandon your family, but to just disappear without a word, leaving them fearing what had happened to you. Whether you'd been taken against your will and are being held somewhere, or got caught up with some dangerous people. Whether you'd been murdered ... It's heartless.
I imagine the "issue" was he wanted to leave his wife/kids and didn't want to pay child support.
The issue is that he’s a loser and couldn’t handle to take care of a family gotta respect the men that do it
@@jontupac7890 except he did get a new family 4 years later and was fine.
There's always two sides to a story. Some people have a legitimate personality disorder and that may stem from traumatic experiences during childhood. It baffles me as well why parents abandon or alienate their kids but like I said there's two sides to every story. Just something to think about... Not that it justifies his actions but this narc could have done a world of damage if he didnt leave. Could have been the best scenerio for the family he left behind.
@@mostdopepuzzlehead3445 it's pure selfishness
My "Dad" did something similar to my Mom, my sister and me. He left us in '94. He got up really early in the morning, stole ALL our money, filled a backpack with some clothing and just vanished. We didn't get a card, or a letter, nor a single word or lead of where he was. 25 years later, now in my 40s, I found him but he got away before I could reach him (thankfully for his well-being). It turnd out he never changed his name, but he got married again and had a child and a totally different family. He ruined our lives 'cause we got kicked out of the house we were renting, and ended up living with his brother's wife's derelict motel. I had to abandon my education to support my Mom and sister (we were 14 and 16 when he left).
With a little bit of luck I'll find him again and we can have a little "chat" man to man...
Wow I'm so sorry you went through that.... I hope you are in a better place. My father left me as well. I didn't understand as a child and even a teenager. I felt abandoned. I felt unwanted unloved.. but as I grew into my 20's I learned the World. And I Learned people. And I learned the things people do are on THEM and the person THEY are. It was not me. My father was just a looser and a coward. It had nothing to do with me. And I. Really happy to be free from all those feelings. I could not imagine bringing those feelings into my adult life.. I hope you chose to take control of your life and know it wasn't you that made him leave. It's the person who LEFT who is at fault.
@@iamtherealamandajo3990 Hey dude. Sorry to hear that also, but it seems you turned out better than him.
And yeah, I learned from a really young age that he was the problem, not us, and thankfully my Mom was a trooper and she did everything in her hands to give us the best life she could with the little we had. I learnt a couple of months back that he died (supposedly), so he got away with everything he did. That's my only regret, not being able to find him sooner to at least kick his ass, but unfortunately, here in Argentina you don't have the luxury of wasting time and money without working to go find a man that didn't want to be found.
Anyway... thanks for sharing your story and all the best to you! Cheers from Buenos Aires!
I am ao sorry ,you,your mother,and sibling didn't deserve that
@@jazzyjohnson2925 We found out he died last year.
We want an update
I will NEVER understand how a parent can abandon their child!
What I don't understand is "Why" these wretched men aren't made accountable. You can't make them love their children but you can make them financially accountable and take the burden 'off" the Welfare system. I just can't understand how this could be okay. So many of them go on to live good lives.
One man’s trash is another man’s treasure.
They hate themselves. Only way it can happen.
It's very easy
@@agentcodybanx8909 Yeah it is, for Assholes.
The Dad was a Coward..
He just wanted a New Life...
He's a coward because
He left his kids BEHIND....
Pedro Gallegos you’re a fucking moron.
@@shlacked2690 we found our deadbeat guy
He could’ve just killed em like Chris watts
That's a true statement
Pedro Gallegos I agree a dead beat dad I know a few and they suck I'm not a better for knowing them
The family lost their home and had the car repossessed. Kids grew up poor. Grr. While he marries, buys a house and a plane. Grrr. P.S. Identify theft is still happening. Stay safe.
manic hairdo lol shows that it’s the person that controls the money but the majority of the time money controls the person
jorge rodriguez I don’t think you understood my comment
I can't take you seriously with the growling lmao.
Not one, but four houses in florida. I think he's a psychopath. I also think people should have to get a background check when they apply for a marriage certificate.
It certainly identifies who was productive and who was the leech in the relationship. There is a reason some wives are referred to as the ball and chain.
My ex left me & our 3 children when they were 9, 11 & 13. No one could find him, not even the Cops. 10 years later he tried to walk right back into their lives. They showed more grace & mercy, after some time, than he deserved. They said it was always awkward, never the same & they had a kind of relationship with him for 4 years before he passed away. It affected the children terribly, especially the boys.
Sorry to hear but looks like you raised very kind graceful children.
Horrible.💔
Several people I know have had the same with husbands and fathers. The men wanted to come back when the hard work has been done. It was not wonderful for any of the relationships.
“Identity theft is not a joke Jim, millions of families suffer from it every day!”
-Dwight K. Schrute
Million suffer every year! Is the right one lol
*every year
OH THAT'S FUNNY....MICHAEL!?
MICHAEL!!
Internet is giving access to everyones personal info nowadays remember not to trust web for personal id info. Id is tried to be stolen everyday partly by email, cloud services etc., check your hotmail or google account login attempts for example . Taiwan, Iran , Russia, Europe etc..all the time some is hacking to get info and power over my life and yours
I like how his son said he wears the ring to remind him not to be like the bad example.
He just made that up cuz he found out he was alive lol
No, he has to have a reason to CONTINUE wearing it, you dense, fucking idiot. You obviously don't think before you speak
I bet you spend most of your time online swearing at women
You sound like a 550lb neckbeard.
Dayumm babe. You need to give me your contact coz i seem to have found a dime in you😍😍
I love the grandma. It “tickles her” that he’s confined now. I chucked. Love you grams.
Imagine how many people accused her of doing something to him. So many looking at her with negative thoughts. He should be ordered to pay child support and pay her for her pain and suffering! God Bless that woman!
Can’t pay in prison.
Lol
@@PresidentUSVI If he has assets. They said he had properties and boats etc. He should pay restitution to his first wife and children!
Honestly and I know this is a random thing to say I think this is probably the same deal with that lady from Tiger King Carol Baskin that the internet insists killed her husband. I was so fascinated with the case I looked into it and it seems more like the guy likely ran off to Costa Rica. I think there’s more cases like this out there than people realize
My dad left when i was a baby. Saw him like twice my whole life when i was in elementary. Im 31 now. What a coward!
Jay, sorry for your bad experience, hope you are a better father.
My father walked away and I was eventually adopted, what I found out afterwards is as the parent you have to surrender all your rights to the child. He wanted to meet me and my two sisters when we got older. We did go to meet him and instantly disliked him , he was a good looking man and knew it . He was a real con man, we never wanted to see or hear from him again, just before he died he wanted contact again , but NO! He never paid his dues as a father. We were better off without him! The strange thing was .. my mother died when I was young so our adoptive father raised us. I’ve made sure my kids had a good life
@@rowanbowyer6560 As a 76 year old mother, I'm here to tell you, you are a better man than your father was!! People are born to teach us the difference between good or bad, by watching them, it is our choice as to how we live our lives, good for you!!
@BigMomma Btd what that have yo do with it i have a some white friends that grew up without there father i'ts not a color thing it's a human situation gods loves you and he do not see color have a bless day.
@BigMomma Btd sorry i misspell some words i quit school that's something ill regret the rest of my life.
"I don't remember that feeling." Understatement of the year.
Savage and understandable
Also the fact that the nephew was doing the family tree. What an unbelievable story
My grandfather left....just like that. My dad was eight. There's just something that happens to you inside when a parent checks out, never to return. I really feel for the kids in all of this.
My grandpa too. Became a millionaire, worked for nasa, started his new family. Never met the guy and I share his last name. He's dead now. My sister got to meet him but she, God bless her soul, passed 3 years ago at 24. I never even got to talk to her about him. Damn life is hard and confusing.
@@jessecrawford8450 Indeed, life is confusing. My grandfather's sister lived 12 blocks from me for 10 years. I could have walked to her house and got all the answers we wanted. But we didn't know. I found her on Ancestry five years ago. Died in 2000.. I'm so sorry you didn't get to speak with your grandpa or get your sister's opinion of him. And so very sorry for the loss of your sister. I pray your family's been able to heal. We've learned forgiveness is the first step. Sending a hug, and wishing you peace.
@@jessecrawford8450 My Dad’s father left him around 8 and my great grandfather left my mom’s Dad when he was young, my dad and grandpa got to grow up without dads, my great grandpa showed up one day after abandoning him for over 40 years and my grandpa slammed the door in his face… Sucks so many Dads and Moms dgaf
Yes.....for all of them.
Same happened to my great-grandfather. I believe his father left and passed into white society.
My sister knew a married couple who had a toddler son. The mother gave the father an ultimatum - either we give the boy up for adoption, or I'm leaving both of you because I don't want to be a mother. Of course the father was appalled and said no way was he abandoning his son. The wife kept her word and walked out on them both. As far as I know she never looked back. Some people are incapable of loving anyone besides themselves.
Notice she hesitated when he asked what she liked about him'? Must be hard to find anything after what he did, wounds heal slowly over time... Yes and they leave scars, a constant reminder.
Maybe she never liked him and he knew it. What if she hated him and he knew it. The only "real" thing he took from her was himself. He let her keep everything. Odds are the outcome of a divorce would have been her ending up with everything. What if he knew divorce odds (including losing his kids) and didn't want the headache of the court?
What is there to like?
Jill Amoroso she probably likes that he left? Haha and is getting what he deserves now.
@@johnvanegmond1812 Leave it to a man again to make excuses for other men who are cowards & lame excuse for a man to start with let alone a "Father". You're all making presumptions trying to make her look bad & make him look good? the con-artist? the coward? Who deserted one family, stole an identity & lied to his 2nd family? How do they sleep at night?
@@johnvanegmond1812 I don't think you comprehend the debilitating stress, shock and anxiety he put his family through! They didn't know whether he was dead or alive! Losing their home and cars to the bank, selling their possessions, moving, finding a cheap place to live, trying to find money for food and basics, etc etc etc etc! All the while dealing with police and being investigated!! People suffer complete breakdowns under such severe stress!
I'm glad he didn't kill his wife/ wife and kids like other worms have. He has no idea the value of his own kids who he threw away like they were nothing. The grandmother is a beautiful soul who defines family more than that thing ever will.
I LIKED HOW SHE LAUGHED ABOUT HIS FUTURE CONFINEMENT!
I have a feeling his mother knew he was okay the whole time, hence the reason she helped them
Worms?
Regardless he Owes the Wife and Kids a fortune in alimony and child support.
@Jennifer Davis congrats on guessing out of nowhere goofball
This is why I highly discourage people (specifically women) from being completely financially dependent on someone else. You never know what’s going to happen. Be smart.
😄😆😄 totally
My mom managed to get her teaching cert. before she was left with no family but her 3 and 6 yr old😁🤗
Ok thats common sense
We men aint supporting no bum ass bitches
@@calilife5109 you do not speak like a husband, father, war vet or working man. You DO SPEAK THE WORDS OF MANY RACISTS AND REPUBLICANS😜
and they are not simply being badass funny
Rosalind Martin Republicans? Tf 🤣
What an absolute mess this man caused. I feel for all the family members impacted by his utter selfishness
Sue him for abandonment. It's illegal to leave them without a proper divorce and child support settlement, the evidence is overwhelming 😠😠😠
Legal?
Chris Torres sorry for the late reply, but yes it is legal. He has a financial and custodial responsibility to help out raising those kids... So yes, in most states, she can take him to civil court n sue him for compensation
A C I think you mean illegal bud
@@pt9373 lmao finally someone said it
Chris Torres i meant to say it is legally acceptable to sue him... But i edited my post anyway. Sorry for the confusion lol
"Hey dad, where ya goin?"
"Out to get a pack of smokes, ill be back."
"But, dad, you don't smoke."
"Uhhhh, bye."
lolll
Oh that's messed up. 😂
😂😂😂
Lol 😂 dad: I’m going to get gas ⛽️.me dad we don’t got a car 🚙
Lmao dead 🤣 🤣 🤣
The way he taunted his family with the birthday card is particularly despicable. What a deadbeat! Let’s hope his hole gets widened a couple of inches while in prison.
and he would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for those meddling kids & that dog!
Dookie Bob 😂
Dookie Bob I get the reference
😂😂😂😂😂
Dookie Bob 😂😂🤣🤣😂😂😂😂🤣🤣
nigling scooby doo, kid
A little update on this. He was convicted and served two years in jail. After getting out his second wife divorced him. In 2018 his first wife sued him for back child support in which the judge added the maximum interest of 18%. He was ordered to pay nearly two million. It's doubtful that they ever got a dime.
Thanks for the update!
Oh wow! How did you find this out?
If he works they will be taking it out if his pay check
Yea. She won a Civil suit for $1.8mil.
Just think, she would have saved her sons, her mother, & herself from hardship and heartache if she had just treated him better.
@@E.P.7131 lol how fuckin miserable are you?
Wow, he wears his Dad's ring to remind himself of a, "Bad example", reminding himself everyday of the pain and suffering of a horrible Father. He does not want to become a bad example for his children, like his Father was to him. That's deep. God Bless you and your family. 🙏
Nah, I think he still wants his dad. See how he’s hoping that he just got involved with bad people/dealings to justify his disappearing? If he sees him, he’ll probably run to his dad’s arms and tell him how much he loves him and misses him and it’s all mom’s fault. Weakling!
@@jaymoulic8144 not sure about it
@@jaymoulic8144 loving your parent whether they do you right or wrong does not make you a weakingly. Saying your statement makes you one and shows you need therapy.
What a good man his son turned out. He certainly doesn't deserve the honor his son kept for him. The mother did a good job.
It’s self torture.
This officer /detective deserves a raise
Abandon your wife and young kids = NOT a man. Hardly human
John LaLone Definitely human
Trevor Anderson no. Hardly human
Logan Greene A way someone acts doesn't make them not human. But a persons actions can be considered "inhumane"
John LaLone that's why he took a dead man's identity
John LaLone he is a man.
“he can’t stand to be confined to any one place and now he can’t go anywhere” sums up the whole story 😭
And I would of gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for that meddling kid !!
Fuck that kid
😂😂
Rut roh Shaggie!
Well done!
Now That's funny😂😂
My father disappeared for almost 20 years and I found him on Facebook, I didn't have negative feelings against him, I met him and our relationship did not work out
Right. Just move on, life's not fair. Nobody owes anyone anything really.
@@E.P.7131 Move On? Its his Father. he dumped his son and lived a new life
@@morestuff64058 I get it, I'm just wondering how long someone should hold on to that?
I learned years ago that you cannot hold someone accountable anymore than they are willing to hold themselves accountable.
Of course your relationship with your dad didn't work out. Your first clue was 20 years ago when he left you.
Don't like the blaming the wife thing. Its been 23 years to that interview. Of co use she doesn't remember why she loves him. Probably only remembers why she hates him. And you have no idea what she could have been like that long ago. Sooooo just get over it?
Lol right. Nobody here knows what his life was like. Not saying leaving the kids like that is ok. It wasnt their fault. But, sounds like they had a lot of nice stuff and lived expensive with him the only one providing. She could of kept demanding and demanding a better life from him. He probably said fuck it after awhile. I love how they added "no more vacations." Like that needed to he including with all the other things impacted from him leaving.
@@steveoo6
Back in the day, our society was set up in a way that allowed children to be raised by their mothers instead of daycares. As the financial provider, he could have easily set limits on how the money was spent. IF she was making efforts to over spend as you suggest. It had nothing to do with money & everything to do with him being a cowardly bastard who didn't care about his family.
@@trayceevalen2134 Thats a good point man. Hes def no saint for doing what he did. Once you have kids then you need to be there for them at all costs. I just thought it was superficial to mention the vacations lol. I mean the worst part was leaving the kids but for some reason they had to throw in the fact there was no more vacations.
@@steveoo6
Okay, It see what you're saying. Vacations are definitely a luxury type of thing. Imagine going from vacations to not knowing how you will feed & clothe your children though. Big old turd needs punished for his actions.
@@steveoo6 Leave to a man to put the blame on the woman. She really looks like a demanding overspender! Give me a break! The only reason the vacation comment was thrown in was because he left blah Indiana to spending his days at the beaches of Florida vacation life style! Big Duh there dude! 😂
he was on a "business trip"
carz club Haha wow
yet declared dead 😂😂😂
carz club yeha a 23 year businesses trip
carz club he went to get milk
"what did you love about him?" *rolls eyes, "huhhh"...silence..."he was a lot of fun to be with?"
his wife must've been one of those scary types
Mina 😂😂😂😂 yeah
Mina funny
I wouldn't have anything nice to say about him either, after what he put her through.
lol that's why he left his wift
My grandfather left exactly just like that. My mom was nine and have 8 other siblings, the youngest was just months old. I'm so proud of my grandmother for being strong for all those years. In 2016 my uncle tracked his half-sister in facebook and in 2017 my sister and I met our half-uncle?? And said that they only found out they were second family (only the children, the second wife knew it all along) when they applied for death insurance and my grandmother was still listed as his wife on paper.
P.S. they also left their two other children in my mom's home town in young age before they disappeared. Sadly the younger girl died as what my mom said and until now they didn't have a clue where the other one who is a boy maybe in his 40's now. After that they had 3 other children and they graduated with a degree in college while my mom and her other 8 siblings grew up struggling in poverty with my grandmother who worked hard for them to survive.
I can’t even do that well in life with my own identity.
LOL! I was thinking something similar. I was thinking of all the people who whine about how they can't change their lives for the better. Here's an example of how one can start over and rebuild. His crime was dumping his wife and kids into a mess, but skipping that part, the rebuild part can be done by anyone.
😂😂😂
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LoL
I was thinking the same thing.
what if Richard Hoglan was a stolen identity too and he had another family before that haha
johnny_schwifty.soundcloud
wow deep bro just deep lol
sounded like a movie..wait! ive seen it before i just cant remember the title.
johnny_schwifty.soundcloud that would be crazy
*Inception sound* BWAAAAAAAAAM
Plot twist
My dads still at the fucking grocery store and it's been 5 years. It's all good he'll be back soon
He probs stuck in an aile trying to make up his mind on a cough medicine but they keep adding new brands every time he comes to a decision.
Brian Zmolek ur profile pic matches your statement perfecty
Lmfaoooooo this was a good 😂 laugh at 3am lmaooo
I’m back son. You sure got taller.
Better get the milk in the fridge before it goes bad
This is just despicable. I could not even phantom any one doing this. He disrespect his first family, second family, the dead and disgrace himself.
0:06 "Why would a seemingly happy husband and father disappear?..."
uh. cause he's "seemingly happy". duh.
SweetAmber what about his kids
Robin Gagan He obviously didn't give a shit
It's because this ex wife is bat shit crazy, you can tell. This fool needed to just dip.
Lol!!
SweetAmber 🤣🤣🤣
The grandmother's grief was just heartbreaking!!
The parrot u mean
@@AA-bs3iy Were you dropped on your head as a child?
Why would the grandmother have grief ? She wasn't in a relationship with Richard. The grandmother seems more upset about having to financially help her daughter. Truth is.... Richard didn't want anything to do with Linda anymore. Linda and her mother seems like two vindictive women, who would've made Richard's life miserable.
So gracious of her the way she said “ I don’t remember that feeling” I would have been like what do you think
Lol I would have been all kinds of ugly about it. She handled it better than I would have, that's for sure.
😭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I feel so terribly sorry for his sons that he abandoned. Bad enough to ditch their mother, but to not only just walk out of their lives, then have the balls to send a casual, "maybe I'll see you sometime" card to them later, was to me proof that this POS was a sociopath who had no heart, while those of his sons ached for their father. I hope he sits in confinement a good long time, and eats up all the "freedom" and joy he stole from his family so long ago. Condolences to them and their mother, and that's only the first of two families he shattered. All were damaged beyond belief because of one man's selfishness.
how to avoid child support
And alimony...
But he got remarried and had another kid...........
He has been charged and forced to pay $2 million dollars to his exwife and children :/ so I guess that ain't too cool
The moral of the story: don't get found out if ur running away from ur family and living under a fake identity.
@@B-Man-69 The moral of the story, don't just run away from your family without any explanation like he did. Be responsible, not a prick.
And go to jail thereafter lol
When the Interviewer says "Do you remember feeling so relieved to hear he was alive".....wife: "I don't remember that feeling" I FELT THAT!!!
My mother did not cry when my father died, I guess she felt she did enough crying doing the marriage. The same with this women, why should she feel guilty about hating him, I would for sure.
Avalon Park Exactly
Your Farher was a Good Man !
With a frigid wife like your mother I'd want to die too. Rip to your pops.
@@GearZNet Happy, healthy people don't find amusement in kicking others when they are down. That's what unhappy, sick people do.
@@everythingmatters6308 well she was ragging on her dead father .. that's even worse than kicking someone when their down. Also I'm sure she doesn't know know full story about everything. Women just always take other womens side no matter what.
My father left my Mom, brother and I when I was 2 I believe. He was a drug addict and decided to be with another woman who had 2 kids of her own. He evaded getting served to pay child support. Thankfully, my Mom had a degree and a job. I eventually met him and I asked him why he didn't try to see us when he cleaned up his act and he said he wanted us to think he was dead. He married that woman, raised her kids and had another child. I'm 43 and a Mom and I cannot wrap my head around not knowing if you're children are okay. Why do so many men abandon their families?
What did he say
@@twinsgangtv6946 He wanted us to think he was dead.
how do you use a death certificate to get a birth certificate? isn't that in itself suspicious
porsche187 exactly, I don't understand that
He probably used the personal information off the death certificate to request an official replacement birth certificate.
+porsche187
Sometimes you require the birth certificate of a dead relative, if you don't have the original they can created you a new one.
Damn people are dumb he used the information from it
Boosted Build they are not dumb they're special. m'kay
Lol this guy went full Jason Bourne!
"jesus christ its jason bourne"
Motherfucking Nightwing MATT DAMONNNN
Julius Caesar this isnt funny, this is just disrespectful.
More like full Krusty, the Clown.
Julius Caesar was gay
damn as a father, i feel bad for his children.
hevert pacheco h
hevert pacheco as a partner, I sure as hell dont.
Get bad vibes from that chick, bitch vibes.
Her mom, made me feel that pain for your daughter. 😢
In the old days us men would just go out for a pack of cigarettes and never return. Happened thousands of times.
Linescrew1 damn that’s deep
Wow, a cat fight... meow!
Still do
LeftHandedAquarius duck you
Something tells me Gian and NT both have personal experience on some level, but are misdirecting their anger. (you can give my investigative award later) You guys should really talk about it though.
Even if you didn't love that woman anymore, what about those innocent kids? Your own blood 😢
HEARTLESS SOUL!!!
Yep, and then to give your new kid a dead man's last name. smh.
She got fat
@Robin D. Sounds like someone hurt you.
@rumpleforeskin73 If that was the case it would have come up in the report. It is not just his wife and kids he cut off. I assume he cut off his own parents, cousins etc. You notice none of his family appeared to defend him on the segment.
I know how you feel when your dad not in your life when you are young.Lonely n lost. 17 yrs later I went to live with him. He was rich, n greedy. He was selfish. I be broke while drove n had money on him. I was 23yo lived with him 2 yrs. No privacy.Bought a house cash.But wouldn't help his own son with money.Sadly I left him. You can't teach old dog new tricks. Years later he was killed brutal way. Broke my heart! I still miss him. RIP
I love the grandma "he doesn't like small confined spaces....that tickles me" haha u go grandma
"He can't stand to be confined in any one place and now he can't go anywhere. It just kinda tickles me a little bit." If you are going to quote at least make an effort to get it right!
@@nw6070 you’re responding as if she decided to mishear what was said.
@@alicemiriah nope. She was just too lazy to go back and check the wording and also actually got the meaning/ content wrong. Its also not the end of the world or makes her a bad person. Its just mildly annoying when people dont make an effort
@@nw6070 k
@@nw6070 Agreed. Appreciate you "quoting" her accurately.
My Dad disappeared when I was very young. This was in around 1957. We moved in with my Grandparents on my Mother's side. Honestly I don't remember missing him at all. Never heard a word from anyone on my Dad's side of the family, ever. Didn't bother me then and doesn't bother me now. My father called me when I was 22 and I met with him. We talked and he died 6 months later. So to sum it all up my Mother eventually re married a successful man that legally adopted me giving me his last name and my Mom went on to have 3 more children ( 2 boys and 1 girl ) which are my wonderful siblings. We are very close. Do I have questions? yes. Would I go back and change things if I could? no
It is what it is and my Dad made his choice and I made mine.
Can someone explain how you get a birth certificate with a death certificate?
He did not use the certificate its' self but the information on it.
@@davidhenderson3400 thank you so much....I was so baffled
That's actually an old way to obtain new ID. We were given a death certificate but the IRS would only except the birth certificate. So we had to apply for a birth certificate for our deceased daughter for the IRS audit. 🤨
@@black_jackledemon6298 another proof how their system is fucked, sorry you had to go through that man.
@@black_jackledemon6298 But that was for a different person, not for yourself.
Ugh her old mother crying pulled on MY heart strings for sure! 😞
sara kate - yup that was so sad to see her crying.....she reminded me of an old aunt i once had.
Yeah, and she said "She's my daughter - so of course I'm going to help her". That contrasted with her AWOL son-in-law who created the need for her to help her daughter. He utterly abandoned his responsibility to his wife and to help HIS children even letting his 6 & 9 yo sons think he was dead. The man has NO CLASS, NO CHARACTER. Just lived for his own wants, never mind his family's needs or even basic human decency.
Yes me too
Crocodile tears
So sad. He has hurt everyone he claimed to love. Very very sad. My heart goes out to both of his families and the family of the man who's identity he had stolen.
@Freedom by Fire It can happen to both sexes honey
and you don't know for sure that his wife is the kind of women you are talking about so now you are blaming one party without knowlegde so stop bitching and crying
@Freedom by Fire You can leave a relationship. You don't have to abandon your children. Stop trying to justify this POS, honestly.
Freedom by Fire Even if he didn’t get along with his wife, that doesn’t excuse him from being a parent.
@Freedom Truth 🙄 Nothing to do with woman. He needs to take responsibility for his decisions.
@jean-luc paradis Of course your daughter hates you you just said you abandoned her. If the mom was that bad you woulda went to court for split custody. Only punks abandon their own blood
Prayers going out to the children. No child deserves that. I could never do that to my kids, unless their lives depended on it. 🙏🏽😔
the dad left to get milk
@@user-hd7vm4cr7o is that what your mom told you? 😂 🖕🏽
This is exactly why you always have an emergency savings account if you're a stay at home mom--one that he doesn't know about. Don't depend 100% on anyone to provide for you because of situations like this. It's the sad truth. There are so many stories of men just walking out on their wives and children. It's utterly insane. So if you're a stay-at-home mom, be sure to stash the weekly allowance he's giving you (LOL) and get a side hustle.
amen !!
Mother's teach your daughters this!!
The best advice.
@rumpleforeskin73 Both men and women can be shady in a marriage but there are good wives and good husbands out there who go forward believing and trusting %100, losing themselves by handing over all of their trust to the other. What the "poster of this thread" was saying is, neither one of you should have %100 trust. Each person should be able to take care of themselves so when anything happens, even if one gets sick, the marriage won't fall apart.
Miss Nicole so true
That's what you call a dead beat Dad!!!! Prayers for the family that had to go through this!!!!
This is not a man. This is a little boy running away from his problems
DJR When a Man does anything wrong women always say the man should just walk away now they complaining about that.
And u a little shit hiding in the comment section #freeterry
Yea but that ex wife looks like a big problem.
Lmao he's not a little boy he has another family who he stayed with. If you have a family with a women you don't love you usually hate the kids cause they just keep reminding you of the woman you had them with.
DJR I'd run too with a wife like that.
Now whatever insurance money they got they have to pay back. This man 23 years later is still giving his family hell.
I feel so bad for his 1st family, what a betrayal, and I feel bad for his second family, they have been living a lie. He ruined so many lives, I hope he gets what he deserves.
porkakoo Karma...there is no menu, you simply get what you are served.
How do you know they were his FIRST family?
I commend this guy. He may be a crappy person who walked out on his family, but he managed to create another life, with a wife and another child. He had a few big lies but his overall life seemed to be one of accomplishment.
He is now out, and came back with his first family he plidge mental illness. Its ok now
porkakoo totally agree with you
In February 2017, Hoagland pleaded guilty to a charge of aggravated identity theft. He served nearly two years in federal prison before returning to Indiana in April.
Meanwhile, his wife pursued him in court for child support. Earlier this month, a judge in Hamilton County Indiana decided Hoagland owes his wife and sons $1.86 million, the Star reported.
"I was glad that we finally had made it to that point where he would be held accountable for his behavior," Linda Iseler told the Star.
Douglas Hoagland, also out of custody, was on hand for the recent court hearing. It was the first time he had seen his father since 1993.
"If you think you had two kids and you wanted to see them so bad, you think you'd be a little bit emotional," Douglas recalled to the Star. "But this guy, nothing."
It's unclear if Iseler and her sons will get any money from the judgment. Hoagland's assets are tied up in divorce proceedings with his Florida wife.
Thank terry this was the result
Technically their not actually married because he used a name that wasn't even his. He was already married, when he got married rendering the new marriage null and void.
Might as well disappear again. Leave the country at this point.
@@candicedawson4264 Yes anything that happen his first wife and 2 sons should get every Penny!
So the ex-wife’s get half of half 😂
7:40 grandma is low key gangster.
She be a real OG😆😜
Best kind of gangster on the planet, grandma gangster!
😂 i expected something else. You got me
That was the best part lol
😆
This guy basically started a new save file.
My older kids dad has been gone ten years. I catch myself always wondering if he thinks about them. Our son is in highschool and our daughter is in middle school. It doesn't even matter to them they say because my current husband has been in our lives for eight years. He is their father now.
Your kids are lucky to have got a new and caring father . Not everybody is as lucky .
Jen Kohls is a damn cutie... if your husband steps out I’ll fly you to Dayton! Just joking Jen, I know that’s a serious subject.
Then why bring him up
Snap, my sons father walked away when i was preg, came back when my son was 2 then walked away after 6 months. Hes 13 now. I do wonder if he thinks of him, if the reason he unblocked me on facebook was to try and see pics of him. My son has said he wondered the same. However my other half has been his father since he was 5 (also 8 years!) And my son now says he has a dad and isnt bothered about his real one because he was never a dad to him.
Jen Kohls same but my bio dad wants nothing to do with me only my 3 brothers his new wife and his step son he doesn’t even bother to Contact me 😭😭 but my step dad as been in my life since I was 2 and I’m 18 now so he’s my dad
I don't know. I stopped trying to figure why people do what they do a long time ago.
lol, same here
Thank You, ditto.
Hey Annie, I was JUST about to write what you said. People are unpredictable nowadays.
All you can do sometimes is just pray for them. Pray for the city or town you live in and the ones close by.
“I don’t remember that feeling.” just looking at her face? No lies detected.
first thing that came to my mind is this lady could have been locked up for his disappearance, wow
My grandmothers dad did the same thing. He lived in Washington DC for 35 years then he disappeared. He went to Sonora Mexico, changed his name, opened up a mine, bought a house, married a nice Mexican lady and had my Grandmother. All his family in DC thought he was dead, he never went back. Its crazy how it was less than 100 years ago, but now its impossible to just disappear like that
I see nothing wrong with what your great grandfather did. You didn't mention that he had a prior family.
@@E.P.7131 “all his family in DC” and “my grandmothers dad did the same thing” imply he DID leave his prior family behind.
I don't think he wanted a divorce because he would end up paying child support.
bladekyle2010 People avoid child support all the time without playing dead.
Now he will sit in jail for the rest of his life
bladekyle2010 no shit
Dude bAck then women took everything. No questions asked. Id dissappear to. Now days they still do. They just can't move away with kids anymore. Not shit has changed. Youre better off not having Kids until they delete the child support system and impose aa fifty fifty you both work and care for Kids. Not this woman is getting government foodstamps to feed your kids while you pay her child support to feed your Kids that she buys cigarettes and pays cell bills and car payments with "child support $" our nation is shit when it comes to kids and parenting
Technically, he's still on the hook for it. His sons could sue him for the back child support. He'd have to sell some of those properties and the boat to pay it.
his poor kids, for him to move on and start a new family like that. That would hurt so much
It was the nagging controlling wife... he was escaping her evil clutches. It was a miserable sexless marriage.
You can tell with her attitude and how the story goes that she was a real piece of work to live with LOL
@@KlodFather such a weak man
@@KimAhrina11 - He found a non violent way to end the suffering. It took strength to walk away and let the old hag have it all.
The old wife will get nothing... besides she had him declared dead. This is a sorry ass case. Back child support will not go to the old wife but to the state to repay welfare. No one will see a dime of anything. No winners here.
My dad moved in with a new family, already had 5 kids, but I guess we weren’t enough! The two new ones turned out to be total losers....we all make choices, right?
@@KlodFather incel energy...
Wow! My dad stage a kidnapping when I was small, I’m 58 now. He put a note in the church pulpit saying he was kidnapped. This happened in Ontario, Canada.
He chickened out and came back home. My parents divorced years later, because he kept disappearing.
I’m still messed up from that.
Crazy story. Hope you eventually can get better.
I couldn't take the segment seriously because it sounded like Ron Burgundy was commentating...
Shadman Kaiser graham norton more like
Shadman Kaiser haha lol I hear him now.
Shadman Kaiser haha exactly was trying to figure out what it reninded me of lol 😜
That's hilarious! "The human torch was denied a bank loan"
Shadman Kaiser Hahahahaha