Classic battle between the X-Men (X-Ecutioners-NY) Vs. the Invisibl Skratch Piklz (CA). Roc Raida (RIP), Rob Swift & Mista Sinista Vs. Q-Bert, Mixmaster Mike & Shortkut.
17 years later and people are still arguing about this. This is the essense of modern day turntablism. The blueprint to the entire game. ISP vs XMEN. FOREVER!
ISP was on another level! X men were better at throwing middle fingers and pointing at the vinyl on cue. Technique wise it isn't even close, that's how advanced the piklz were.
9 лет назад+57
This is why the DJ will forever be the first hip hop artist and producer period!
I appreciate everyone here, but Round One? DEFINITELY Q. And Round Two? Closer, but Mixmaster Mike. Team X-Men spent more time tryna old school MC distrack (did every X *really* need to flip the bird, too?) than showcasing their actual skills in the general sense. True, X-Men were clever with some of their cuts, but by comparison, Q-bert and Mixmaster Mike put on master classes showing they had the technical skills to rise above and shine, instead trying to insult their counterparts and 'front on 'em.
THIS SHIT RIGHT HERE NIGGA....THIS IS CALLED REAL HIP HOP!!!! All u fake lil bustas dont knowing shit. There was a time where there was no YT and niggas had to practice and be patient about their skills. THX 4 sharing this piece of History of our lifestyle
I bet sinista was all sk haken When he was setting up during Q's set and knowing he just took out the whole xmen crew just by himself, mmm just added insult to that injury ... everyone knew it they just had to sit there and take it...man that must have been soul shaking...
I remember Rob claimed to be the first person to loop a beat with a sticker, but a UK DJ called DJ Reckless actually did it in '91, at the UK DMC Final.
Man, this shit is CRAZY! They don't make many DJ's like this! Especially not these days!! At 1st I was like "Roc Raida (R.I.P) fucked that shit up" & then I was like "Ooooh dats tight! I think Q-Bert might just have done him" (watching it back I think Raida took it) Then Mix Master Mike steps up FUCKIN' POSESSED & tryin' to CONTACT ALIENS & completely TEARS DAT SHIT DOWN!!!!! Fuckin' love it! Shouts to Rob Swift, Mista Sinista & Short Kut respectively, u done ur ting but U KNOW!
@@DjNikGnashers you realize all the old DJs you probably admire use digital right ? Everyone from Jazzy Jeff to Flash. Ya'll just old, bitter and jealous.
@@devote I'm 50 years old, and got my first set of turntables aged 11 in 1980. I now use a DDJ SX2 controller. I have an advanced national diploma in music technology, and still dj every week. I think I know more about 'old dj's' and DJ-ing in general than you ever will, so shut the fuck up.
these two groups embody what turntablism is.there is no winner or loser they both excel the art form to higher levels. technical skill and showmanship.
^^^^ Word. This battle was really an exhibition of the two most dominant methods of using the turntable as an instrument. The Scratch side uses the manipulation of pitch (through the record) and the absense of sound (through the crossfader) to "play" the turntable, similar in theory to a trumpet player. The juggle side uses the beats and sounds provided by two copies of the same record to reconstruct an existing song into a new one. Both methods have their intricacies, and neither is necessarily easier than the other. In a world where Boxers duck other great boxers until they're old and washed up, and basketball players hop from team to team, depending on who's best at the time, we are incredibly lucky to see the two greatest groups of practictioners of both styles battle each other.
Instead of tryin to take out ROB SWIFT, Instead of tryin to take out ROB SWIFT, Instead of tryin to take out ROB SWIFT, you need take ur homeboys off the crack.
Nothing but legends on that stage and a sincere R.I.P. to Roc Raida, but there is a very good reason why only Mixmaster Mike went on to a career as a show DJ with the Beastie Boys. He was the funkiest, most party-rocking focused DJ out of both those crews.
when i first saw this in late nineties I thought the piklz won but 15 years later I think xmen got it..no debatin....roc raida routine at start was nutty
Whats the break at 10:11 ?? MMM sounding like he quantum leaped into 10th dimension and warped the wormhole on his way and simply mindfucked turntablism forever. qbert advanced on mike's skills on a technical level while mike truly stayed uniquely extraterrestrial
Its like 2 different schools of DJ'ing battling... Both are amazing. ISP is sick, Q Bert rocks shit hard, but then rob swift comes in with a TOTALLY different vibe all smooth and downtempo. Sometimes insanely fast scratching ala Qbert is sick, and sometimes just laid back juggles are sick. This video just kicks ass all around, theres no debate.
Absolutely! Well said; two different styles. X-Men are juggling/timing what's ON the record, while ISP are massively physically manipulating the records themselves into instruments. Either way, it's hella sick-ass sh@t!! VERY hard to call
God, the old vinyl vs serato bullshit.. anyway. As far as making your own shit serato is better, vinyl is just nostalgic its alot better in some respects but as far as travelling and going to gigs serato is easier...
Roc raida and the rest of the executioners were absolutely terrible at scratching and it was almost embarrassing to watch. They were gods that beat juggling but that's it. They honestly should have just not scratched at all when they came to these competitions. ISP were insanely good at scratching and way ahead of their time, and we're also decent at be juggling ISP was better at be juggling than executioners were at scratching.
Thank you @djreal for posting these. I remember seeing a bootleg of a bootleg of a bootleg of this back in ‘97 and having my fucking mind blown. This shit takes me back.
that joke is as corny as the fingered her and she died joke...... whats worst is every DJ in this video uses a laptop now except roc raida... R.I.P. roc
marvin s good point x men showed more skills qbert is good but he scarches to much
7 лет назад
it's very self centered , technical, do you notice he favors his right side, to this day not good with the traditional left to right grooves of both turntables. He's great and hella innovative.. but it's more noise factor for sure.
Does anyone remember this battle being written about in any magazines? I recently found an article about it in an old magazine that I found on ebay, but it's the only one I've ever seen - and I was buying 4 or 5 Hip hop/DJ magazines a month, back in '96. I've also never seen a single magazine article about the old New Music Seminar/Supremacy battle. Does anyone know of any that I can try and find on ebay?
Mix master mike one of my favorite DJ not from this planet this dude n DJ qbert inspire me to become a turntablism back in the 90 n the x men too but mix master mike is crazy word up not from this planet 😁👍😎
This was a classic battle. This demonstrates that while most DJs were playing checkers, ISP was playing chess. Their style is incomparable and transcended DJing as it was known at the time.
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17 years later and people are still arguing about this. This is the essense of modern day turntablism. The blueprint to the entire game. ISP vs XMEN. FOREVER!
This comment still is true
@@Lalovision3D 24 years later. yes.
ISP was on another level! X men were better at throwing middle fingers and pointing at the vinyl on cue. Technique wise it isn't even close, that's how advanced the piklz were.
This is why the DJ will forever be the first hip hop artist and producer period!
let em know son!
R.I.P. ROC! Me Likey this one. Two of my favorite dj bands going at it.
was that crazy legz behind Q ?
that was epic...two different styles in deejaying in one place!!...Tuff!!
Mixmaster Mike, what a talent! 🔥
X Men killed it!!!
Two legend team crew
ISP revolutionized turntablism at that time.
I appreciate everyone here, but Round One?
DEFINITELY Q.
And Round Two?
Closer, but Mixmaster Mike.
Team X-Men spent more time tryna old school MC distrack (did every X *really* need to flip the bird, too?) than showcasing their actual skills in the general sense.
True, X-Men were clever with some of their cuts, but by comparison, Q-bert and Mixmaster Mike put on master classes showing they had the technical skills to rise above and shine, instead trying to insult their counterparts and 'front on 'em.
I love the mc's expression in all this
dude look like pun in the cut
XMEN vs ISP will be like 2PAC vs BIGGIE. Neverending... That's #hiphop
RIP
XMEN.....NO DOUBT
THIS SHIT RIGHT HERE NIGGA....THIS IS CALLED REAL HIP HOP!!!! All u fake lil bustas dont knowing shit. There was a time where there was no YT and niggas had to practice and be patient about their skills. THX 4 sharing this piece of History of our lifestyle
5:40 uffff
I bet sinista was all sk
haken When he was setting up during Q's set and knowing he just took out the whole xmen crew just by himself, mmm just added insult to that injury ... everyone knew it they just had to sit there and take it...man that must have been soul shaking...
You're a dumbass, now I just told everyone
***** god you are thick.. I.S.P arent any more. but when they were together, they were a group, Xmen were a crew. okay dummie
Yes, yes, nope...
He threw up the x men signe lol
mixmaster mike burned them at the end also
X-Executioners won by far. The scratch picked all they do is scratch and that can become extremely boring.
Legend...RIP ROC
Rob Swift Made a Got Damn BEAT on these dudes.
+Denzel Adams so musical
I remember Rob claimed to be the first person to loop a beat with a sticker, but a UK DJ called DJ Reckless actually did it in '91, at the UK DMC Final.
@@j-boogiebrown9961 I know for a fact people had done that in the late 80’s
But upon closer inspection... (Just finished watching...) Mixmaster Mike kills it on the style. No question :D
Goddamn Mix Master Mike murders this!!
Using Rob swifts record.. he murdered Rob with Rob's own record of Rob djing 😂😂😂
Man, this shit is CRAZY! They don't make many DJ's like this! Especially not these days!! At 1st I was like "Roc Raida (R.I.P) fucked that shit up" & then I was like "Ooooh dats tight! I think Q-Bert might just have done him" (watching it back I think Raida took it) Then Mix Master Mike steps up FUCKIN' POSESSED & tryin' to CONTACT ALIENS & completely TEARS DAT SHIT DOWN!!!!! Fuckin' love it! Shouts to Rob Swift, Mista Sinista & Short Kut respectively, u done ur ting but U KNOW!
The title of this video should be "Why every data DJ is a fake"...
Why on every DJ video do we have to bring this up ? Just enjoy or move on.
@@devote Because it's true ?
@@DjNikGnashers you realize all the old DJs you probably admire use digital right ? Everyone from Jazzy Jeff to Flash. Ya'll just old, bitter and jealous.
@@devote I'm 50 years old, and got my first set of turntables aged 11 in 1980. I now use a DDJ SX2 controller. I have an advanced national diploma in music technology, and still dj every week. I think I know more about 'old dj's' and DJ-ing in general than you ever will, so shut the fuck up.
@@DjNikGnashers if you use a ddj sx2 why are you disagreeing with me ? Are you confused old man.
these two groups embody what turntablism is.there is no winner or loser they both excel the art form to higher levels. technical skill and showmanship.
When i first saw QBert do the ‘Rock The Bells’ routine-it changed my life. Seminal routine.
Mike is so sick!!!
The Xmen seem to value exhibitionism, while ISP is more focused on innovation through their instruments.
^^^^ Word.
This battle was really an exhibition of the two most dominant methods of using the turntable as an instrument.
The Scratch side uses the manipulation of pitch (through the record) and the absense of sound (through the crossfader) to "play" the turntable, similar in theory to a trumpet player.
The juggle side uses the beats and sounds provided by two copies of the same record to reconstruct an existing song into a new one.
Both methods have their intricacies, and neither is necessarily easier than the other. In a world where Boxers duck other great boxers until they're old and washed up, and basketball players hop from team to team, depending on who's best at the time, we are incredibly lucky to see the two greatest groups of practictioners of both styles battle each other.
"Groove-locking buttons"? You mean they now have button that do what DJs used to do with stickers?
Instead of tryin to take out ROB SWIFT, Instead of tryin to take out ROB SWIFT, Instead of tryin to take out ROB SWIFT, you need take ur homeboys off the crack.
Zee Dee it’s my favorite part of Rob Swift’s scratchin routine in the battle with ISP. It was said on the video.
@Zee Dee no problem, it's cool.
CLASSIC X MEN ALL DAY
Individually Xmen win. Team wise ISP win
Xmen destruction ! flow, hip hop ! ...... .... & 20 years on XMEN still look hip hop,,
!
The Xmen and ISP are why turntablism became what it did.WE dont have crews reppin' like this any more.
without djs. there is no rap n dancing and graffiti eh
Nothing but legends on that stage and a sincere R.I.P. to Roc Raida, but there is a very good reason why only Mixmaster Mike went on to a career as a show DJ with the Beastie Boys. He was the funkiest, most party-rocking focused DJ out of both those crews.
Mixmaster killed itby himself
Mike...... fucking hell.
when i first saw this in late nineties I thought the piklz won but 15 years later I think xmen got it..no debatin....roc raida routine at start was nutty
Rob swift puts it piklez won team x men took solo and yeah I agree
The truth hurts... ISP was ahead of their time and ever evolving... X-Men's tricks and brash attitude was played out...
Yes.
ISP were always innovating, technologically as well with pressing sealed breaks (skipproof) on the vinyl.
That Rob Swift Routine from 5:32min is so smooth and clean,make me bounce everytime i hear it!!!!
Greatest battle ever, but dam mmm, at the time was on fire, sicker then qbert.
And thats when the east coast embraced skratching wiith open arms.
These guys were cool. XMen all day, but if Jazzy Jeff was there...
It would have been a soul snatching event.
ISP
Whats the break at 10:11 ?? MMM sounding like he quantum leaped into 10th dimension and warped the wormhole on his way and simply mindfucked turntablism forever. qbert advanced on mike's skills on a technical level while mike truly stayed uniquely extraterrestrial
gjh gyjdg the original break is "shes about a mover" -roy head
Anyone know the break Mike uses at 10:11? Thanks in advance for your help!
That Rock The Bells routine is still the best thing ever done on turntables.
I have heard QBERT doing better than that, though it is awesome, he can actually do even BETTER than that. Same era recording.
wtf what's Obama doing their ?
Jockin Q's beats, same as everyone else.
Lmao
Isn’t that Crazy Legs?
That's Crazy Legs
Rob Swift killed it...just so original
Thanks for posting. Mix Master Mike was sick.
Mixmaster Mike was insane!!! Great!!
Its like 2 different schools of DJ'ing battling... Both are amazing. ISP is sick, Q Bert rocks shit hard, but then rob swift comes in with a TOTALLY different vibe all smooth and downtempo. Sometimes insanely fast scratching ala Qbert is sick, and sometimes just laid back juggles are sick. This video just kicks ass all around, theres no debate.
Absolutely! Well said; two different styles. X-Men are juggling/timing what's ON the record, while ISP are massively physically manipulating the records themselves into instruments. Either way, it's hella sick-ass sh@t!! VERY hard to call
God, the old vinyl vs serato bullshit.. anyway. As far as making your own shit serato is better, vinyl is just nostalgic its alot better in some respects but as far as travelling and going to gigs serato is easier...
Wow so many legends on the stage !!! They pushed each others innovativeness & creativity which made them the best in the world and the art form !!!
My hero’s when I was a teenager in the 90s. Why does Qbert look the same today as he did in this video?
two totally different styles, X men use a lot of juggles and what not to get at you....ISP are making faders bleed.
i was more into juggling and beat making
Roc Raida was Godly. Rest In Power.
ROC RAIDA DID BODY TRICKS ALL THAT AND SCRATCH AND BEAT JUGGLE QBERT DIDNT HAVE OF THAT HE JUST SCRATCHED
Roc raida and the rest of the executioners were absolutely terrible at scratching and it was almost embarrassing to watch. They were gods that beat juggling but that's it. They honestly should have just not scratched at all when they came to these competitions. ISP were insanely good at scratching and way ahead of their time, and we're also decent at be juggling ISP was better at be juggling than executioners were at scratching.
None of the X men were anywhere near the same level of scratching as Q or Mike.
Thank you @djreal for posting these. I remember seeing a bootleg of a bootleg of a bootleg of this back in ‘97 and having my fucking mind blown. This shit takes me back.
Forget Com vs. Drake or these master of the mix dudes. These cats had the heart.
So gully! thank you RIP Raida
pun's cousin in the background y'all
Richard (Q-bert) is and has always been way ahead..
that joke is as corny as the fingered her and she died joke...... whats worst is every DJ in this video uses a laptop now except roc raida... R.I.P. roc
Ave Mcree but it’s by choice! And Qbert is still the OG. Vinyl or not, fucking kills it
This battle was the peak of turntablism.
Craze got the biggest crowd hype at this battle
@DJ BONY JOE he was in the battle just not this part of the day this was the crew vs crew solos but he was in the solos and fucking killed it
@DJ BONY JOE look for craze itf 1996
X-MEN AND INVISIBLE ALL GAWD DAMN DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
12:40 that fucked my head up all up
+Nail The Namekian whats is name this last track ?
it's all good, but Q-Bert is obviously an alien
Wow! Thats raw rite here yo!!...... 👍💪🙏😎
X men were dope I can't stand that straight scratching q Bert did.
marvin s good point x men showed more skills qbert is good but he scarches to much
it's very self centered , technical, do you notice he favors his right side, to this day not good with the traditional left to right grooves of both turntables. He's great and hella innovative.. but it's more noise factor for sure.
They all killed it. 🔥🔥
Steve D in the background wearing the superman T like a baawws
Anyone peep big pun in back of rob swift??
Big Pun in the back on the X-Men side?
RIP ROC RAIDER A GRANDMASTER ON THE WORLD OF TRUNTABLIST
finally a video of the battle that doesnt look like crap. nice post!
What's the name of the track at 6:27
HEAVYWEIGHTS.PERIOD.
So officially q bert aside scratching, now to do anything else ( beatjunking!?) or not.?......beacause if is not roc raida destroy him........
turntablism needs to come back.
Mike is legit alerts daddy lol
R.I.P Roc Raida 🙅🏾♂️
Mix master mike is like a X-men lol
x-men are so much more hip hop than the i s p… more in the traditional spirit ;just saying
Q bert set was sloppy seen him do better
Isp were gods scratching. X were gods at juggling. Period
mix master mike murdered it...
Tru Music Lighting Without a doubt!
love q but roc killed it.
Look mom, no laptop
SaidUno I was thinking the same thing 😂
lmao!
Does anyone remember this battle being written about in any magazines? I recently found an article about it in an old magazine that I found on ebay, but it's the only one I've ever seen - and I was buying 4 or 5 Hip hop/DJ magazines a month, back in '96. I've also never seen a single magazine article about the old New Music Seminar/Supremacy battle. Does anyone know of any that I can try and find on ebay?
In for a treat rite here..... Respex, Big Upz, & Mad Love to all the devoted, dedicated, & passionate DJ's worldwide.....🔥💯👍💪🙏🎶🌎
Is that Obama at the back haha
Imagine battling qbert .
Is that crazy legs on the mic at the end ?
Mix master mike one of my favorite DJ not from this planet this dude n DJ qbert inspire me to become a turntablism back in the 90 n the x men too but mix master mike is crazy word up not from this planet 😁👍😎
Yo you can’t go against mix master mike
I wonder what the dj world would be like if Roc Raida was still living
Good old days!
Mom murdered this
This was a classic battle. This demonstrates that while most DJs were playing checkers, ISP was playing chess. Their style is incomparable and transcended DJing as it was known at the time.
especially when isp has mix master mike!!!! dude is an alien....
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