these two groups embody what turntablism is.there is no winner or loser they both excel the art form to higher levels. technical skill and showmanship.
17 years later and people are still arguing about this. This is the essense of modern day turntablism. The blueprint to the entire game. ISP vs XMEN. FOREVER!
ISP was on another level! X men were better at throwing middle fingers and pointing at the vinyl on cue. Technique wise it isn't even close, that's how advanced the piklz were.
I remember Rob claimed to be the first person to loop a beat with a sticker, but a UK DJ called DJ Reckless actually did it in '91, at the UK DMC Final.
Thank you @djreal for posting these. I remember seeing a bootleg of a bootleg of a bootleg of this back in ‘97 and having my fucking mind blown. This shit takes me back.
Man, this shit is CRAZY! They don't make many DJ's like this! Especially not these days!! At 1st I was like "Roc Raida (R.I.P) fucked that shit up" & then I was like "Ooooh dats tight! I think Q-Bert might just have done him" (watching it back I think Raida took it) Then Mix Master Mike steps up FUCKIN' POSESSED & tryin' to CONTACT ALIENS & completely TEARS DAT SHIT DOWN!!!!! Fuckin' love it! Shouts to Rob Swift, Mista Sinista & Short Kut respectively, u done ur ting but U KNOW!
@@DjNikGnashers you realize all the old DJs you probably admire use digital right ? Everyone from Jazzy Jeff to Flash. Ya'll just old, bitter and jealous.
@@devote I'm 50 years old, and got my first set of turntables aged 11 in 1980. I now use a DDJ SX2 controller. I have an advanced national diploma in music technology, and still dj every week. I think I know more about 'old dj's' and DJ-ing in general than you ever will, so shut the fuck up.
Nothing but legends on that stage and a sincere R.I.P. to Roc Raida, but there is a very good reason why only Mixmaster Mike went on to a career as a show DJ with the Beastie Boys. He was the funkiest, most party-rocking focused DJ out of both those crews.
Does anyone remember this battle being written about in any magazines? I recently found an article about it in an old magazine that I found on ebay, but it's the only one I've ever seen - and I was buying 4 or 5 Hip hop/DJ magazines a month, back in '96. I've also never seen a single magazine article about the old New Music Seminar/Supremacy battle. Does anyone know of any that I can try and find on ebay?
@funkateer17 I think that's DJ Eric Eclipse from NYC. I think he worked for Loud Records at the time. The guy behind Qbert during Mixmaster Mike's set.
Mix master mike one of my favorite DJ not from this planet this dude n DJ qbert inspire me to become a turntablism back in the 90 n the x men too but mix master mike is crazy word up not from this planet 😁👍😎
Its like 2 different schools of DJ'ing battling... Both are amazing. ISP is sick, Q Bert rocks shit hard, but then rob swift comes in with a TOTALLY different vibe all smooth and downtempo. Sometimes insanely fast scratching ala Qbert is sick, and sometimes just laid back juggles are sick. This video just kicks ass all around, theres no debate.
Absolutely! Well said; two different styles. X-Men are juggling/timing what's ON the record, while ISP are massively physically manipulating the records themselves into instruments. Either way, it's hella sick-ass sh@t!! VERY hard to call
Whats the break at 10:11 ?? MMM sounding like he quantum leaped into 10th dimension and warped the wormhole on his way and simply mindfucked turntablism forever. qbert advanced on mike's skills on a technical level while mike truly stayed uniquely extraterrestrial
when i first saw this in late nineties I thought the piklz won but 15 years later I think xmen got it..no debatin....roc raida routine at start was nutty
^^^^ Word. This battle was really an exhibition of the two most dominant methods of using the turntable as an instrument. The Scratch side uses the manipulation of pitch (through the record) and the absense of sound (through the crossfader) to "play" the turntable, similar in theory to a trumpet player. The juggle side uses the beats and sounds provided by two copies of the same record to reconstruct an existing song into a new one. Both methods have their intricacies, and neither is necessarily easier than the other. In a world where Boxers duck other great boxers until they're old and washed up, and basketball players hop from team to team, depending on who's best at the time, we are incredibly lucky to see the two greatest groups of practictioners of both styles battle each other.
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This is why the DJ will forever be the first hip hop artist and producer period!
let em know son!
Legend...RIP ROC
these two groups embody what turntablism is.there is no winner or loser they both excel the art form to higher levels. technical skill and showmanship.
17 years later and people are still arguing about this. This is the essense of modern day turntablism. The blueprint to the entire game. ISP vs XMEN. FOREVER!
This comment still is true
@@Lalovision3D 24 years later. yes.
ISP was on another level! X men were better at throwing middle fingers and pointing at the vinyl on cue. Technique wise it isn't even close, that's how advanced the piklz were.
But upon closer inspection... (Just finished watching...) Mixmaster Mike kills it on the style. No question :D
Rob Swift Made a Got Damn BEAT on these dudes.
+Denzel Adams so musical
I remember Rob claimed to be the first person to loop a beat with a sticker, but a UK DJ called DJ Reckless actually did it in '91, at the UK DMC Final.
@@j-boogiebrown9961 I know for a fact people had done that in the late 80’s
When i first saw QBert do the ‘Rock The Bells’ routine-it changed my life. Seminal routine.
Goddamn Mix Master Mike murders this!!
Using Rob swifts record.. he murdered Rob with Rob's own record of Rob djing 😂😂😂
Thank you @djreal for posting these. I remember seeing a bootleg of a bootleg of a bootleg of this back in ‘97 and having my fucking mind blown. This shit takes me back.
Thanks for posting. Mix Master Mike was sick.
Wow so many legends on the stage !!! They pushed each others innovativeness & creativity which made them the best in the world and the art form !!!
Man, this shit is CRAZY! They don't make many DJ's like this! Especially not these days!! At 1st I was like "Roc Raida (R.I.P) fucked that shit up" & then I was like "Ooooh dats tight! I think Q-Bert might just have done him" (watching it back I think Raida took it) Then Mix Master Mike steps up FUCKIN' POSESSED & tryin' to CONTACT ALIENS & completely TEARS DAT SHIT DOWN!!!!! Fuckin' love it! Shouts to Rob Swift, Mista Sinista & Short Kut respectively, u done ur ting but U KNOW!
Forget Com vs. Drake or these master of the mix dudes. These cats had the heart.
So gully! thank you RIP Raida
Mike is so sick!!!
That Rock The Bells routine is still the best thing ever done on turntables.
I have heard QBERT doing better than that, though it is awesome, he can actually do even BETTER than that. Same era recording.
was that crazy legz behind Q ?
R.I.P. ROC! Me Likey this one. Two of my favorite dj bands going at it.
Mixmaster Mike was insane!!! Great!!
CLASSIC X MEN ALL DAY
That Rob Swift Routine from 5:32min is so smooth and clean,make me bounce everytime i hear it!!!!
Anyone know the break Mike uses at 10:11? Thanks in advance for your help!
finally a video of the battle that doesnt look like crap. nice post!
The title of this video should be "Why every data DJ is a fake"...
Why on every DJ video do we have to bring this up ? Just enjoy or move on.
@@devote Because it's true ?
@@DjNikGnashers you realize all the old DJs you probably admire use digital right ? Everyone from Jazzy Jeff to Flash. Ya'll just old, bitter and jealous.
@@devote I'm 50 years old, and got my first set of turntables aged 11 in 1980. I now use a DDJ SX2 controller. I have an advanced national diploma in music technology, and still dj every week. I think I know more about 'old dj's' and DJ-ing in general than you ever will, so shut the fuck up.
@@DjNikGnashers if you use a ddj sx2 why are you disagreeing with me ? Are you confused old man.
Xmen destruction ! flow, hip hop ! ...... .... & 20 years on XMEN still look hip hop,,
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Roc Raida RIP. A very sick video thanks for posting this Dj Real. :-)
Nothing but legends on that stage and a sincere R.I.P. to Roc Raida, but there is a very good reason why only Mixmaster Mike went on to a career as a show DJ with the Beastie Boys. He was the funkiest, most party-rocking focused DJ out of both those crews.
A beautiful piece of history right here. Big up's DJ Real
Rob Swift killed it...just so original
Greatest battle ever, but dam mmm, at the time was on fire, sicker then qbert.
And thats when the east coast embraced skratching wiith open arms.
My hero’s when I was a teenager in the 90s. Why does Qbert look the same today as he did in this video?
Is that crazy legs on the mic at the end ?
Mixmaster Mike, what a talent! 🔥
Is that Big Pun behind Rob Swift? True throwbak here ya'll... Definitely a classic
Does anyone remember this battle being written about in any magazines? I recently found an article about it in an old magazine that I found on ebay, but it's the only one I've ever seen - and I was buying 4 or 5 Hip hop/DJ magazines a month, back in '96. I've also never seen a single magazine article about the old New Music Seminar/Supremacy battle. Does anyone know of any that I can try and find on ebay?
Mike...... fucking hell.
that was epic...two different styles in deejaying in one place!!...Tuff!!
They all killed it. 🔥🔥
The Xmen and ISP are why turntablism became what it did.WE dont have crews reppin' like this any more.
What's the name of the track at 6:27
Big Pun in the back on the X-Men side?
@funkateer17 I think that's DJ Eric Eclipse from NYC. I think he worked for Loud Records at the time. The guy behind Qbert during Mixmaster Mike's set.
In for a treat rite here..... Respex, Big Upz, & Mad Love to all the devoted, dedicated, & passionate DJ's worldwide.....🔥💯👍💪🙏🎶🌎
Im looking for this battle on dvd oh vhs anyone out there know were can i get it for my collection
this video is so amazing, everyone in it is giving the best they got.
Roc Raida was Godly. Rest In Power.
Mix master mike one of my favorite DJ not from this planet this dude n DJ qbert inspire me to become a turntablism back in the 90 n the x men too but mix master mike is crazy word up not from this planet 😁👍😎
Its like 2 different schools of DJ'ing battling... Both are amazing. ISP is sick, Q Bert rocks shit hard, but then rob swift comes in with a TOTALLY different vibe all smooth and downtempo. Sometimes insanely fast scratching ala Qbert is sick, and sometimes just laid back juggles are sick. This video just kicks ass all around, theres no debate.
Absolutely! Well said; two different styles. X-Men are juggling/timing what's ON the record, while ISP are massively physically manipulating the records themselves into instruments. Either way, it's hella sick-ass sh@t!! VERY hard to call
mix master mike murdered it...
Tru Music Lighting Without a doubt!
The truth hurts... ISP was ahead of their time and ever evolving... X-Men's tricks and brash attitude was played out...
Yes.
ISP were always innovating, technologically as well with pressing sealed breaks (skipproof) on the vinyl.
Whats the break at 10:11 ?? MMM sounding like he quantum leaped into 10th dimension and warped the wormhole on his way and simply mindfucked turntablism forever. qbert advanced on mike's skills on a technical level while mike truly stayed uniquely extraterrestrial
gjh gyjdg the original break is "shes about a mover" -roy head
Instrumental Rob uses at 5:33?
Common - Resurrection '95
@8:49 what is that buzzy beat????
when i first saw this in late nineties I thought the piklz won but 15 years later I think xmen got it..no debatin....roc raida routine at start was nutty
Rob swift puts it piklez won team x men took solo and yeah I agree
Good Job ! :) Wait Part 2 ...!
7:11 song????
Is the Big Pun in the back?
OHHHH SHITTTTTTTTTTTT !!!!! THE BEST CLASSIC BABY !!!!!!
Mixmaster killed itby himself
So much talent was in the room. Sick battle y'all
The Xmen seem to value exhibitionism, while ISP is more focused on innovation through their instruments.
^^^^ Word.
This battle was really an exhibition of the two most dominant methods of using the turntable as an instrument.
The Scratch side uses the manipulation of pitch (through the record) and the absense of sound (through the crossfader) to "play" the turntable, similar in theory to a trumpet player.
The juggle side uses the beats and sounds provided by two copies of the same record to reconstruct an existing song into a new one.
Both methods have their intricacies, and neither is necessarily easier than the other. In a world where Boxers duck other great boxers until they're old and washed up, and basketball players hop from team to team, depending on who's best at the time, we are incredibly lucky to see the two greatest groups of practictioners of both styles battle each other.
"Groove-locking buttons"? You mean they now have button that do what DJs used to do with stickers?
Wow! Thats raw rite here yo!!...... 👍💪🙏😎
Two legend team crew
These guys were cool. XMen all day, but if Jazzy Jeff was there...
It would have been a soul snatching event.
That qbert vocal sample was smooth
Good old days!
funny i came looking for this video after listening to an old Stretch & Bobbito show...
RIP ROC RAIDER A GRANDMASTER ON THE WORLD OF TRUNTABLIST
was there ever beef between these guys? I don't really know the history
nice session!
Does anyone know the name of the track Mix master Mike begins with?
Casual, that's how it is.
I love the chain of the last dj
Roc Raida Rob swift and mix master mike were the dopest
RIP TO ROC RAIDA 🙏🏼
The judge is dj revolution?
yeah isp were part of the rock steady crew
the guy next to the isp with the shaved head is crazy legs from the rock steady crew
Craze got the biggest crowd hype at this battle
@DJ BONY JOE he was in the battle just not this part of the day this was the crew vs crew solos but he was in the solos and fucking killed it
@DJ BONY JOE look for craze itf 1996
@funkateer17 correction it might be Bobbito.
Steve D in the background wearing the superman T like a baawws
Anyone know where this was held?
What's the beat Rob Swift was using at 5:36?
Individually Xmen win. Team wise ISP win
X Men killed it!!!
That posse behind Q-Bert. HIPHOP!
pun's cousin in the background y'all
Dude to Mike's right is COMEDY!
12:51
Oh Shit, he's the EMCEE? Hahaha
Legends❤❤❤
Very well said. I agree
That guy behind MMM looks like CRAZY LEGS? (The Breaker)
Here again for the 20+ time. 10/31/24
Mom murdered this
what year was this
I love that this only has 830 views. Come back in 4 months and lets see lol.
It 9 years and the views is 114k
I love the mc's expression in all this
Scratching that Gangstarr is fire 💪💪
Mix. Master. Mike. All fucking day!
I'm pretty sure it is...
it's all good, but Q-Bert is obviously an alien
5:32 Dope Rob Swift!!!
The specific style of art is the first ingredient to HIP HOP
Epic!