yup. their souls were taken from the primis story so they would be unaffected from 115 in the house. now that sam teleported she experienced the 115 and has powers
So seeing maxis die woke up the inner corrupted samantha. So i guess when she was cleansed, the reason she started having an american accent is because she was surrounded and influenced by other american accents. But when she saw maxis die her ptsd gave her back her powers and german accent lol
Moe Kiyam maybe the accent was just to symbolize that Samantha was cleansed and when she started speaking again with a German accent is when she let all her power free and corrupted
I’m thinking the american thing was perhaps some sort of brain washing or hypnotism Monty might have had over her, being connected to the same Aether as her, but when she snapped, she returned to her true self
Well I didn’t say it was perfect lol. Though if you think about it, Monty can probably use whatever accent he wants, considering he’s not exactly english, or even human. He probably chooses what accent to use or something. Maybe he chose, when hypnotizing her, to make her sound more American, to sort of make it more bland, and less recognizable to her former self
Ultimis will prevail in The Great War and finish the job fixing the multiverse. Primis will go down fighting in a heroic final battle with Monty prophecy is fulfilled
If only this game wasn’t being held back my its mechanics. Another problem I don’t see people talking about in bo4 is how weak the guns are even with a fully packed ICR it stops being effective around round 25 and above
Dude the story is just gonna end with some kid named Edward who loved zombies and sci fi waking up in a hospital because he was in a coma for 3 years and dreamed the entire zombies story
I think we've just been real spoiled. Bo3 was such a drastic upgrade in every respect from bo2 and especially advanced warfare zombies. We're now expecting every map to outdo the others much like a kid who gets everything he wants expects more. Lol
Idk personally I think bo3 zombies was worse than bo2. If anything I think they need to downgrade back to how bo2 worked, to which (I know this might seem crazy) they go far enough back to the 2 hit down system for that classic feel.
Andrew Canter Well you’re right. It is crazy. 3 hit down is the perfect one imo. That way a double swiping zombie doesn’t ruin your entire match. I love BO4 but the 200 health is a bit much.
Ryan Gordon well we should expect better all around for the most part in any sequel, but when the budget and quality of some things just dips it’s kinda sad to see especially knowing how it was 3 years ago with the quality of the cutscenes and maps in Bo3. I mean when it’s not an improvement or doing new things what really is the point? I’m just sticking around for the end at this point, I’ll have some fun and remember it fondly for the most part.
Maybe if they give us a zombies only spin off game (hopefully) one day, we'll get like a massive Aether campaign with the story streamlined and actual fleshed out cutscenes for every map, and then we'll still get to do our normal survival horde mode game and Easter egg missions in the maps separated from the streamlined experience. Oh, one can only hope and pray am I right?
It’d be dope to have a zombies only, like chronicles, but it walks you through every EE with fleshed out cutscenes and an explained story through map playing.
it would make the storyline way easier to understand for casual players. If it's all given to the player, it can be more easily understood. And imagine, as a pre-order bonus... an actual, readable Kronorium with story info and gameplay/Easter Egg guides. Basically a Prima guide that looks like the Kronorium.
@@twangy_juice8126 OMFG THAT WOULD BE SOOOOO FKING AWESOME I WOULD BE GEEKING TF OUT, I DIDN'T EVEN THINK OF THE PRE ORDER BONUS SPECIAL EDITION. They could also jam pack so much lore into the Kronorium since it's basically what the reader wants to see, it could possibly show us all the unanswered questions we've been wanting to understand and it'll show us them can you just imagine man. Anyone obsessed with the storyline and knows it all would flip like could you imagine Milo or Reed getting their hands on something like that? Ahhh I want an Aether only game with this so badly!
Am I the only one thinking that this story started during the "Great War" (WW1) and is gonna end with the Great War (Apothicon-Keeper War). Something neat to think about! Edit: Or the other way around depending on how u wanna interpret the cycle*
The story of zombies as a whole had started in WW2 actually, though Dimension 63, the Primis crew’s dimension, it did start in ww1, so depends game you started playing first
The events of Ultimis, in WW2 would still have happened first, because if they didn’t happen, Samantha never would have gone to Dimension 63, and there’’d be no zombie outbreak in Origins, and Primis never would have been.a thing
Yes they are separate universes, but dimension 63, or Primis, only started with Origins, because Samantha had an affect on it, which she did, due to the affects of the Ultimis crew
One could only hope. The zombies in general cant compete to bo3. Like come on do u see those amazing egg cutscene so good. But let's just hope it ends with a banger :(
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Reed i have questions please🙏: is the pentagon thief who died the one of BO1 or the one of classified?? This map is an original timeline not a fracture like classified right ?this map is prior nuketown?
connects with the comic panel from awhile ago with nazi richtofen at the house with primis, guess thats the next destination for dlc, hopefully as an original map and not revelations 2.0
Absolutely loved this video. I was upset about the story in this map at first, but now that we’re taking a look at the radios and such, it’s making me hopeful again. Thanks for the great vid!
If a reboot does occur and it seems hinted that removing Argatha and 115 will be the basis for the reboot, what would that mean for Zombies, Perks, and Pack a Punch which all rely on 115 to work?
Mr-E Man it’ll basically be all new stuff that isn’t based on 115, we might just get the original perks but reskinned tbh, they might even keep the names just because too
This is some cool stuff but is everyone forgetting about the Dempsey cipher? "I am the last of us, but I will be joining you soon my friends-cough, cough-death is near. I hope what we have done doesn't come back to bite us in the ass. Thank god we will all be gone because if Monty ever found this place, we would have been in a world of shit. Maybe now with us all gone, the children will be truly safe. -D"
In all honestly I could accept for where the story is going to end. At least we are getting some closure for some characters.and going to get a great satisfying ending for Aether. The only disappointment I had with the cutscene is that it is not an IGC (which would really be hype and dope) and the dlc only lasted about 8 hours. What also happened to saving the children? Now they are going to fight with us in the Great War? How does Sam play in all this? What was the point of Nikolai soul again? Will Ultimis prevail and Primis fail? This cutscene was a 8/10 for me.
The Great Sinatra what happened to the kids is that Monty made up this nonsense of keeping them all in the house and losing their souls so they couldn’t fight back and to contain Sam there as well, that’s the basis of the cycle
I hope they release a story textbook or another timeline because now they are gonna have to cram a bunch of things in DLC 4. The revelations ciphers, the giant radios, victis, and any supporting characters left out. I understand the cycle, but how this cutscene is building is like Sam is now gonna lead the charge. And how is she corrupted? It’s stated that she is the second person to go to the house then gets taken out by Monty gets cleansed the returns to the house. Monty lied? It’s just more of a wait and find out! See ya next time! Rip my boi maxis tho
Don’t worry these people could get millions if they ask for it, this whole budget thing is stupid. I’m pretty sure they did the animations to stick with the transit bo2 kind of vibes that this whole map gives off
Nobody else talking about the elemental shards?? And how they are most likely the original origins staffs. Blood of the dead red shard is the fire staff and this one is the ice staff
Cloud Nein you say that but they most likely aren’t, this thing is just meant to give life and the thing in blood was just something else, I wish it was more important but it just was what it was
I don't think it's drawn because of time/budget I can't imagine them animating this cutscene. They never animate the really dramatic and goresome scenes.
Fuck a reboot, let the story end. Do the Chaos story complete justice and tell that over the next game, and then assuming Treyarch is still around can they reboot the story with the original characters a few games down the line.
Despite Samantha in the ending cutscene looking so evil looking..why does she look so adorable all of a sudden?...I'm guessing it's the nostalgia roaring back in or something XD ^^
The radio explaining Dr Monty’s reason for not destroying Agartha is pretty nice for the storyline to clear up Monty’s powers. I like how you described that Monty isn’t actually a God, he just extracts somewhat God like powers and without those powers, he is just another race of creature. Also explains how even humans such as Samantha and Cornelius can have such immortal powers.
There never was a plan but get the souls member it's important to feel relevant dr. Monty would make Max's say those things back in the day but now it's nikolai's turn
This is blowing my mind. I’ve never given up on zombies and I at first liked primis less for reasons such as Richthofen was so toned down. However these radios and ofc Nikolai’s quotes in the intro imply he was that way Bc he really did know everything (like he Always said lol) but this really reveals the scope
just completed this map all 4 guns on round 16. Ive done every maps egg and safley say this is by far THE WORST RESKINED SHOTFACED map ive ever played and the easiest egg ever.
One thing I noticed when I saw the cutscene was that Maxis seems to die in every single game. WAW: believed to have been killed in the DR radios when teleporting; Bo1: killed himself to cause Sam to run into the MPD; BO2: can die twice depending on the Buried endgame and the origins intro; Bo3: dies in the Rev intro and sacrifices himself in the ending now he dies again in Alpha and Omega by being killed by Squidmonster Monty ( yeah I’m now replacing the doctor part of his name to squidmonster for obvious reasons). So if you think about it, Maxis is the Cod zombies version of the Carmines from the Gears of war series.
Budget issues. They had to manage money so they can have enough for DLC 4 and the 2020 cod game. Had the not been forced to make next year's game, we'd have gotten a better looking cutscene.
nicholas collins yeah, I wouldn’t have minded for the intro, but the outro? It’s a fat bummer from me, I don’t know what it is but specifically Sam and Maxis look weird as hell
you cant even really get the full picture in the outro. If it wasn't for Reed and Nixaru I would probably still be a tad bit confused with that the outro meant @@SSlash
I have a question Reed, is Dr.Monty affected by time travel? Does the summoning key affect him? Is there multiple monty’s or just one that keeps repeating history? I still don’t understand it.
Charizard Warrior935 he doesn’t give us all that stuff, but he can move them around, the box and the perks end up where they are usually because of “115 displacement”
Reed i have questions please🙏: is the pentagon thief who died the one of BO1 or the one of classified?? This map is an original timeline not a fracture like classified right ?this map is prior nuketown?
Im sorry, but even with this I still can't see Monty as the Big Baddy in this. Its all very grey imo. Think about it, if you were in Dr. Monty's shoes wouldn't you try every possible way to fix the universe without resorting to giving up the very thing that made him, him. It's a scary thought that things need to be changed and to give something up for the betterment of humanity. You also need to remember that he is also part of an entirely different race of species than humans (so he could be thinking of them and what best), and it's not his fault 115 came into the universe creating all this chaos (Thanks Apothicons). Letting go is a tough thing to do and I would try reduing the cycle an infinite amount of times, if there was even a slight chance of things turning out perfect in the world while also keeping the power/life he has always lived for god knows how long. I get this is a video game, but maybe just the way I think about things these days, I like to see both sides. Nothing is truely good and truely evil, just a whole lot of grey. P.s Thanks for the video Reed
It's an interesting take, but we also see that Monty has a lot more power than he lets on. He is literally able to bend time and space, being able to transport people, has omnipotence, can send people back in time, etc. He's a literal God, and you'd think that once everything is said and done with our Primis friends that he'd give them a safe haven, but that isn't the case. I think that nobody is truly a right side to be on. Both the Shadowman and Monty are selfish evil entities looking to gain full control of the relevant universes around them. I can see the great war being about taking down both. Maybe we'll have another dual-sided easter egg mission, one that sides with Monty and one with the Shadowman, and for completionists we'll have one giant super egg where we take down both with the help of Samantha, Victis, Peter, etc.
Has anyone noticed how in the intro to Alpha Omega the first thing you see is the kronorium open and supposedly be erasing the events of blood of the dead because the next shot is then arriving to house in revelations being erased which we pretty much knew at this point but what happened between blood and classified and then Alpha Omega considering Richtofens outfit change
Considering in bo3 we saw Leroy with the wolf king, the wolf king supposedly fighting the great war as well, and apparently Pablo Marinus had a vision of himself present during the battle, AND primis, ultimus, Samantha, and Eddie are going to face off against Monty, imagine if every character we've played in zombies is brought to the great war to defeat Monty and reset the universe without 115. It could be like how in Alpha Omega we play as a mix of ultimus and primis, but with many more crews involved. It'd be a hell of a way to end the story. -insert endgame joke here-
Alpha Omega intro/outro was only animated to match the animated black ops 2 cut scenes since it had a lot of bo2 content. Blood and Classified were not animated.
@radaustin27 I think that when the story is wrapped up and 115 is purged it will set up the story line for the reboot of the new story line and will allow them to close loose ends in the next game and the story would follow in chronological order after all this cycle stuff in a linear story line once again
In my opinion, the story line has never been a let down, and neither have any of the games, including BO4. I think we just have really high expectations after a game like BO3 being so good. It’s just unfortunate that the maps never live up to the “hype” everyone has. In my opinion though, I love this map - I think it’s awesome
Ya know.....I'm thinking that MAYBE...JUST MAYBE..since samantha is a part of the great war plan now...maybe the shadowman might play a part in the "final" aether dlc. But instead of being the bad guy..maybe he will try to help the crews kill Monty...THEN they will have to kill HIM.
I was pretty satisfied with Alpha Omega, I was hoping for more but I got most of what I wanted, I am both excited and nervous for the end, I really hope and feel like they are gonna go balls to the walls with it
Are the 1.0 characters in the summoning key the exact same as the ultimus team we meet in classified if so how are they in the summoning key and in alpha omega at the same time ?
So is it possible the Aether story will reboot like you said....or are we stuck with Chaos. Don't get me wrong I like Chaos so far but it would be more exciting to see a more simple version of the Aether with our old characters or maybe even new, without time travel and other dimensions.
This is how I hope the story ends A plot twist such that we kill Monty, only to find out that he isn't the main antagonist and that there is a much bigger threat which is the Aether, as in like the aether is an entity basically made of the entirety of 115 in the universe. It could be like this female conscious being, which we have no hope of defeating whatsoever and it would drain samantha out of her powers making her useless. We could have all our crews that are still alive in the universe at the boss fight arena via some sort of release sequence. Where we just hopelessly try to destroy aether, but to no avail, as it starts viciously Iconic characters that we love like the wolf king etc. victis sacrificing themselves somehow, which may lead to begin to show any real damage to Aether. Primis then sacrificing themselves in a tragic way which is critical damage, and ultimis and samantha dealing the final blow, burning agartha down. and the universe starts again with no 115 and just one universe and so on. I imagine Aether being like a neon blue character with a female voice, she seducing those that come into contact with 115 and could e the one behind the voices of the corrupted characters. I'm probably hyping myself up for no reason and It'll probably be very underwhelming
Because the cycle was broken and since the Ultimus and Primis crews have now met and are working together, could that be why it's German Samantha in Primis Samantha's body? Because the cycle was broken and the two teams are now together, could that have cause the two versions to merge into one?
Reed... Do I have this right because my monkey brain is hurting... Monty wanted to be able to control the universe, but with multiple dimensions and 115 distortions this wasn't possible. So he set out to create an isolated universe untethered to others that couldn't be manipulated by any outside force but himself. To achieve this, he needed the help of our crews to eliminate possible entry points into this perfect universe, which would ultimately lead to their sacrifice and the new, grand cycle, would ensure this kept happening. But, with the knowledge of the their end (revelations), the crew now operates knowing that following Monty's design will always lead them to doom and now are acting to end his control. The souls in the house uncorrupted by 115 seem to me to be direct paths through which Monty can influence the person through all realities in which they are present, which means keeping them under his thumb and out of his way. Hence Richtofen saying Nikolai needed to keep his soul, in order to fight Monty. They needed a free soul who couldn't be manipulated by Monty to read the Kronorium and guide them rather than Richtofen whose soul was always going to be susceptible given where his work would always take him. Now that Edward and Sam are out of the house, neither are under Monty's thumb. Sam does what Sam tends to do.... goes berserk for vengeance... but what of Edward? What would Edward's soul do now without the influence of Monty over it?
Surely both ultimis and primis are to die as they are both riddled with 115. Surely if they go back to the real world the world will still be exposed to 115 and their quest would be pointless
If Dr.Monty is evil could we possibly team up with the shadowman since the enemy of my enemy and of the two sides of the Great War are Monty vs shadowman why would we team with Monty. I was also wondering if maybe since Monty is evil the shadowman is actually good and I tried to find some weird justification for his actions like “Well he only trapped the people in shadows of evil who had sinned and were actually bad people”but then how do you justify his species sending 115 to places to destroy with zombies🤷🏽♂️ (Obviously the answer could just be we fight on neither side and the promos crew with the robes and staff fight both sides in the Great War
My god, so what if Chaos is the story after Aether, when 115 is deleted and the whole universe restarts, yet another material and group corrupts the world and causes yet more zombies, we all know how similar Prima Materia is to 115 in the sense that it’s quite unknown and is similar in the fashion of causing zombies. I could always see them leaving it just open enough to connect the 2 stories if something went wrong and honestly I suppose that door is not exactly closed. Crackpot theory sure, but who knows lol
Superslash Cool theory. But definitely not. Prima Materia has been said to be around since literally before Christ and maybe even before that. And they’ve started that Chaos and Aether have no correlation at all. They’re in their own separated universes.
I understand that the crews are about the Great War against Monty but what I don’t get is how the map will look. Will it look kind of like Rev or will it look like the Great War from alpha omega’s intro. Anything can happen I guess.
Swaggy zombie 22 if it’s gonna be a remake it’s going to be origins but I don’t think we’ll see many of the same areas besides the mound with PaP I think it’ll be more so based off of origins but if it’s going to be a whole new place it’s gotta be Agartha I would think, because Revelations was essentially the Aether, the physical space but the Aether is something beyond that
So what caused the cycle to break in the first place? This radio makes it sound like the blood vials are what keep the cycle going, so if we kept the cycle going in bo3, what broke it in Blood of the dead?
Dilly Bar I think it’s essentially the fact that the weasel could break his cycle and kill the others, that the outer cycle was broken when Al did a certain something different, whether knowingly or unknowingly. Or maybe it just is the simple fact that Al DID break the cycle and that causes the kronorium pages to change because it recalls the events of Mob, so if the Mob cycle broke at any point, in theory that should make the pages change. So essentially the Successful Mob events perhaps takes place right before they arrive in Blood.
What an amazing map: storyline/rayguns/ map layout is really good (even if its based on bo2 nuketown) +the ee is by far my favourite in bo4 but , i really hoped they make some gameplay changes or finally add a reward System for more replay value. There is just no reason to play this map again After you did the ee. Its a shame bc all this good maps in bo4 are ruined by the gameplay and no rewards.
Hear me out....So what if Monty and shadow man are both villains, and the team knows they must reboot the universe without 115 or aether to win. So they end up doing so and the new universe is the universe of the chaos storyline. I know they're not supposed to be connected but they still share perks, magic drops, potions and other connections that are so obvious I feel like people arent paying attention to it, I mean, if they used the aether and the summoning key to create the multiverse of the aether story then how would there even be a universe without it? prima materia
After hearing the radios, I don't think Primis and Ultimis will be succesful. Unless DLC 4 explains and wraps up most of the missing holes in the storyline.
For a moment lets just compare bo3 DLC 3 GOROD KROVI with BO4 DLC 3 nuketown.... there really isnt competition.... i got scammed of a new map for a blackout remaster ;( Honestly couldve been an amazing side map but a main DLC MAP.... cmon treyarch
To be honest these radios make maxis’ death much more impactful.
agreed
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The radios had better security then the intro and outro cutscenes... Lol sure leak the ending but don't let them read the radio quotes...
lolol
I’m lowkey very hyped for the end, even though it’s coming off to be a disappointment.
Hopefully it at least makes sense kind of.
TheRunkinator I’m just more so hoping the budget more so went into the last map so we can get actual cutscenes for the FINAL map
I think Samantha got her powers when she left the house. That’s why Monty kept her captive so she wouldn’t overthrow him
yup. their souls were taken from the primis story so they would be unaffected from 115 in the house. now that sam teleported she experienced the 115 and has powers
So seeing maxis die woke up the inner corrupted samantha. So i guess when she was cleansed, the reason she started having an american accent is because she was surrounded and influenced by other american accents. But when she saw maxis die her ptsd gave her back her powers and german accent lol
Moe Kiyam maybe the accent was just to symbolize that Samantha was cleansed and when she started speaking again with a German accent is when she let all her power free and corrupted
I’m thinking the american thing was perhaps some sort of brain washing or hypnotism Monty might have had over her, being connected to the same Aether as her, but when she snapped, she returned to her true self
@@Kakarot9002 but monty's accent is british
Well I didn’t say it was perfect lol. Though if you think about it, Monty can probably use whatever accent he wants, considering he’s not exactly english, or even human. He probably chooses what accent to use or something. Maybe he chose, when hypnotizing her, to make her sound more American, to sort of make it more bland, and less recognizable to her former self
@@Kakarot9002 its stereotyping germans are bad and americans are good
Ultimis will prevail in The Great War and finish the job fixing the multiverse. Primis will go down fighting in a heroic final battle with Monty prophecy is fulfilled
Hold up
They're all gonna die or survive
If only this game wasn’t being held back my its mechanics. Another problem I don’t see people talking about in bo4 is how weak the guns are even with a fully packed ICR it stops being effective around round 25 and above
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I've been saying this for ages. It sucks
Rebs IV Really? I do high rounds all the time and a quad packed ICR stops being effective when the 40s start.
Rebs IV fully packed guns are pretty good until late 30’s tbh at least the good guns and not the few bad guns lol
Game: *is difficult*
Players: REEEEEEEEA
4:50 me too maxis, me too .. miss the good ol WaW and BO1 days 😭
Joshua Ortega - exactly!
The only good zombie games imo
Dude the story is just gonna end with some kid named Edward who loved zombies and sci fi waking up in a hospital because he was in a coma for 3 years and dreamed the entire zombies story
I think we've just been real spoiled. Bo3 was such a drastic upgrade in every respect from bo2 and especially advanced warfare zombies. We're now expecting every map to outdo the others much like a kid who gets everything he wants expects more. Lol
Ryan Gordon facts
Idk personally I think bo3 zombies was worse than bo2. If anything I think they need to downgrade back to how bo2 worked, to which (I know this might seem crazy) they go far enough back to the 2 hit down system for that classic feel.
Andrew Canter yeee I respect your opinion those were some good times ngl
Andrew Canter Well you’re right. It is crazy. 3 hit down is the perfect one imo. That way a double swiping zombie doesn’t ruin your entire match. I love BO4 but the 200 health is a bit much.
Ryan Gordon well we should expect better all around for the most part in any sequel, but when the budget and quality of some things just dips it’s kinda sad to see especially knowing how it was 3 years ago with the quality of the cutscenes and maps in Bo3. I mean when it’s not an improvement or doing new things what really is the point? I’m just sticking around for the end at this point, I’ll have some fun and remember it fondly for the most part.
Maybe if they give us a zombies only spin off game (hopefully) one day, we'll get like a massive Aether campaign with the story streamlined and actual fleshed out cutscenes for every map, and then we'll still get to do our normal survival horde mode game and Easter egg missions in the maps separated from the streamlined experience. Oh, one can only hope and pray am I right?
-Fridge Polar- that would actually be amazing
It’d be dope to have a zombies only, like chronicles, but it walks you through every EE with fleshed out cutscenes and an explained story through map playing.
it would make the storyline way easier to understand for casual players. If it's all given to the player, it can be more easily understood. And imagine, as a pre-order bonus... an actual, readable Kronorium with story info and gameplay/Easter Egg guides. Basically a Prima guide that looks like the Kronorium.
@@twangy_juice8126 OMFG THAT WOULD BE SOOOOO FKING AWESOME I WOULD BE GEEKING TF OUT, I DIDN'T EVEN THINK OF THE PRE ORDER BONUS SPECIAL EDITION. They could also jam pack so much lore into the Kronorium since it's basically what the reader wants to see, it could possibly show us all the unanswered questions we've been wanting to understand and it'll show us them can you just imagine man. Anyone obsessed with the storyline and knows it all would flip like could you imagine Milo or Reed getting their hands on something like that? Ahhh I want an Aether only game with this so badly!
John Knight i like that idea a lot
Am I the only one thinking that this story started during the "Great War" (WW1) and is gonna end with the Great War (Apothicon-Keeper War). Something neat to think about!
Edit: Or the other way around depending on how u wanna interpret the cycle*
The story of zombies as a whole had started in WW2 actually, though Dimension 63, the Primis crew’s dimension, it did start in ww1, so depends game you started playing first
@@Kakarot9002 But by that logic, it should had started in the "Great War" as that came first? no? ohhh, the problem of time traveling.
The events of Ultimis, in WW2 would still have happened first, because if they didn’t happen, Samantha never would have gone to Dimension 63, and there’’d be no zombie outbreak in Origins, and Primis never would have been.a thing
Kakerot 1000 Nope, those are all multiverses doing their own thing. Its impossible ww2 happened first, when The Great War came before all of those.
Yes they are separate universes, but dimension 63, or Primis, only started with Origins, because Samantha had an affect on it, which she did, due to the affects of the Ultimis crew
I also have a feeling that theyre saving most of their budget for this next dlc to end off the aether with a banger
Moe Kiyam I hope you’re right otherwise I don’t think dlc4 will land
One could only hope. The zombies in general cant compete to bo3. Like come on do u see those amazing egg cutscene so good. But let's just hope it ends with a banger :(
They need to nail DLC4. If they don't, that could risk fucking up the entirety of zombies for alot of the community
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Reed i have questions please🙏: is the pentagon thief who died the one of BO1 or the one of classified?? This map is an original timeline not a fracture like classified right ?this map is prior nuketown?
connects with the comic panel from awhile ago with nazi richtofen at the house with primis, guess thats the next destination for dlc, hopefully as an original map and not revelations 2.0
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Thank you Reed these are Awesome!!!
Cant wait for you to bring out the white board for this one rad... this is gonna be good *rubs hands*
Absolutely loved this video. I was upset about the story in this map at first, but now that we’re taking a look at the radios and such, it’s making me hopeful again. Thanks for the great vid!
i comment this all the time but it really bugs me that we havent had an original aether map since GK
-Revalations
-Botd
-Classified
-Alpha Omega
Oh wow. I just noticed.
@@kezare569 none of those are original maps buddy
I guess treyarch thought nostalgia will do the trick
qwertyisaboss he knows he’s saying that he didn’t realize they were all knew until now
I consider Alpha Omega Original, it’s entirely different from Nuketown beyond the scenery.
If a reboot does occur and it seems hinted that removing Argatha and 115 will be the basis for the reboot, what would that mean for Zombies, Perks, and Pack a Punch which all rely on 115 to work?
Mr-E Man it’ll basically be all new stuff that isn’t based on 115, we might just get the original perks but reskinned tbh, they might even keep the names just because too
Could the chaos storyline be the rebooted version of the universe
Or that the ending is our own irl universe.
This is some cool stuff but is everyone forgetting about the Dempsey cipher?
"I am the last of us, but I will be joining you soon my friends-cough, cough-death is near. I hope what we have done doesn't come back to bite us in the ass. Thank god we will all be gone because if Monty ever found this place, we would have been in a world of shit. Maybe now with us all gone, the children will be truly safe. -D"
In all honestly I could accept for where the story is going to end. At least we are getting some closure for some characters.and going to get a great satisfying ending for Aether. The only disappointment I had with the cutscene is that it is not an IGC (which would really be hype and dope) and the dlc only lasted about 8 hours. What also happened to saving the children? Now they are going to fight with us in the Great War? How does Sam play in all this? What was the point of Nikolai soul again? Will Ultimis prevail and Primis fail? This cutscene was a 8/10 for me.
The Great Sinatra what happened to the kids is that Monty made up this nonsense of keeping them all in the house and losing their souls so they couldn’t fight back and to contain Sam there as well, that’s the basis of the cycle
I hope they release a story textbook or another timeline because now they are gonna have to cram a bunch of things in DLC 4. The revelations ciphers, the giant radios, victis, and any supporting characters left out. I understand the cycle, but how this cutscene is building is like Sam is now gonna lead the charge. And how is she corrupted? It’s stated that she is the second person to go to the house then gets taken out by Monty gets cleansed the returns to the house. Monty lied? It’s just more of a wait and find out! See ya next time! Rip my boi maxis tho
Seems like Sam is quite powerful. She's probably the only one strong enough to stop Monty physically.
I hope there is a budget set aside for this end.
Don’t worry these people could get millions if they ask for it, this whole budget thing is stupid. I’m pretty sure they did the animations to stick with the transit bo2 kind of vibes that this whole map gives off
Nobody else talking about the elemental shards?? And how they are most likely the original origins staffs. Blood of the dead red shard is the fire staff and this one is the ice staff
Everyone knew that already. You are late to the party
Cloud Nein you say that but they most likely aren’t, this thing is just meant to give life and the thing in blood was just something else, I wish it was more important but it just was what it was
They’re not Staff Crystals, idk why the hell everyone believes them to be
spencer angulo The ice shard was in the winter’s howl in classified this was the lightning shard.
Cant believe you're the ONLY person to actually go through these and discuss. Cheers.
I don't think it's drawn because of time/budget I can't imagine them animating this cutscene. They never animate the really dramatic and goresome scenes.
I think it depends on the dimension. Were in the ultimis dimension all ultimis dimension maps are comic. Except call of the dead.
I haven't been disappointed by any of the 3 Aether maps in this game so far. Just being honest.
Same
Loved the vid man, I don’t watch as much as I used to but I enjoy every time I do
Fuck a reboot, let the story end. Do the Chaos story complete justice and tell that over the next game, and then assuming Treyarch is still around can they reboot the story with the original characters a few games down the line.
Despite Samantha in the ending cutscene looking so evil looking..why does she look so adorable all of a sudden?...I'm guessing it's the nostalgia roaring back in or something XD ^^
Great videos keep up the great work
Brilliant video Reed!
I really enjoyed this one, such juicy story stuff!
i really like the old school radio design it’s really refreshing and cool to see
The radio explaining Dr Monty’s reason for not destroying Agartha is pretty nice for the storyline to clear up Monty’s powers. I like how you described that Monty isn’t actually a God, he just extracts somewhat God like powers and without those powers, he is just another race of creature. Also explains how even humans such as Samantha and Cornelius can have such immortal powers.
Wow he held Monty back as long as he could, rip maxis, hope they avenge him
Ahh, so was this the plan from the origins ending cutscene (maxis knowing the cycle must be broken), or was it just leading into bo3?
There never was a plan but get the souls member it's important to feel relevant dr. Monty would make Max's say those things back in the day but now it's nikolai's turn
This is blowing my mind. I’ve never given up on zombies and I at first liked primis less for reasons such as Richthofen was so toned down. However these radios and ofc Nikolai’s quotes in the intro imply he was that way Bc he really did know everything (like he Always said lol) but this really reveals the scope
excited for the great war
just completed this map all 4 guns on round 16.
Ive done every maps egg and safley say this is by far THE WORST RESKINED SHOTFACED map ive ever played and the easiest egg ever.
One thing I noticed when I saw the cutscene was that Maxis seems to die in every single game. WAW: believed to have been killed in the DR radios when teleporting; Bo1: killed himself to cause Sam to run into the MPD; BO2: can die twice depending on the Buried endgame and the origins intro; Bo3: dies in the Rev intro and sacrifices himself in the ending now he dies again in Alpha and Omega by being killed by Squidmonster Monty ( yeah I’m now replacing the doctor part of his name to squidmonster for obvious reasons). So if you think about it, Maxis is the Cod zombies version of the Carmines from the Gears of war series.
Love having the hype back for zombies! Felt like the good ol bo3 hype train days!!! Yay for a good experience!!!
R.I.P Maxis. you will be Avenged...
Very Interesting these radios do answer a lot , I wonder if they will use the radios again in the next map?
It really throws me off that there wasn't a true cutscene and was more like we were looking at a damn comic book strip. This is annoying.
Budget issues. They had to manage money so they can have enough for DLC 4 and the 2020 cod game. Had the not been forced to make next year's game, we'd have gotten a better looking cutscene.
ya I feel you. Its no less disappointing though@@emiliomorales8507
nicholas collins yeah, I wouldn’t have minded for the intro, but the outro? It’s a fat bummer from me, I don’t know what it is but specifically Sam and Maxis look weird as hell
you cant even really get the full picture in the outro. If it wasn't for Reed and Nixaru I would probably still be a tad bit confused with that the outro meant
@@SSlash
Samanthas voice came off as generic and cringe
I have a question Reed, is Dr.Monty affected by time travel? Does the summoning key affect him? Is there multiple monty’s or just one that keeps repeating history? I still don’t understand it.
Hassan Senpai they’ve never specifically explained that i don’t think but i would assume there’s multiples just like every other character
I just thought about this. We're going against Monty. But he helps us with perks, pap, etc. Imagine a map where there is none of that.
Charizard Warrior935 he doesn’t give us all that stuff, but he can move them around, the box and the perks end up where they are usually because of “115 displacement”
Since he knows what primis and ultimis are doing and he could move them the stuff, wouldn't that give him a reason to remove them?
Reed i have questions please🙏: is the pentagon thief who died the one of BO1 or the one of classified?? This map is an original timeline not a fracture like classified right ?this map is prior nuketown?
Dimox115 X I mean there is no classified pentagon thief, but yes Yuri has been the pentagon thief in any iteration
@@SSlash yes there is, the one who was banished by samantha intro cutscene.
Im sorry, but even with this I still can't see Monty as the Big Baddy in this. Its all very grey imo.
Think about it, if you were in Dr. Monty's shoes wouldn't you try every possible way to fix the universe without resorting to giving up the very thing that made him, him. It's a scary thought that things need to be changed and to give something up for the betterment of humanity. You also need to remember that he is also part of an entirely different race of species than humans (so he could be thinking of them and what best), and it's not his fault 115 came into the universe creating all this chaos (Thanks Apothicons).
Letting go is a tough thing to do and I would try reduing the cycle an infinite amount of times, if there was even a slight chance of things turning out perfect in the world while also keeping the power/life he has always lived for god knows how long. I get this is a video game, but maybe just the way I think about things these days, I like to see both sides. Nothing is truely good and truely evil, just a whole lot of grey.
P.s Thanks for the video Reed
*redoing
@@noredhardin1434 Thank you :D
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It's an interesting take, but we also see that Monty has a lot more power than he lets on. He is literally able to bend time and space, being able to transport people, has omnipotence, can send people back in time, etc. He's a literal God, and you'd think that once everything is said and done with our Primis friends that he'd give them a safe haven, but that isn't the case.
I think that nobody is truly a right side to be on. Both the Shadowman and Monty are selfish evil entities looking to gain full control of the relevant universes around them. I can see the great war being about taking down both. Maybe we'll have another dual-sided easter egg mission, one that sides with Monty and one with the Shadowman, and for completionists we'll have one giant super egg where we take down both with the help of Samantha, Victis, Peter, etc.
At least, if I was Dr Monty, I wouldn't freaking eat maxis, just kill him
Has anyone noticed how in the intro to Alpha Omega the first thing you see is the kronorium open and supposedly be erasing the events of blood of the dead because the next shot is then arriving to house in revelations being erased which we pretty much knew at this point but what happened between blood and classified and then Alpha Omega considering Richtofens outfit change
Considering in bo3 we saw Leroy with the wolf king, the wolf king supposedly fighting the great war as well, and apparently Pablo Marinus had a vision of himself present during the battle, AND primis, ultimus, Samantha, and Eddie are going to face off against Monty, imagine if every character we've played in zombies is brought to the great war to defeat Monty and reset the universe without 115. It could be like how in Alpha Omega we play as a mix of ultimus and primis, but with many more crews involved. It'd be a hell of a way to end the story. -insert endgame joke here-
The keepers and Apothicons are like Maxis and Richtofen in B02. Neither side are good or bad because they both screw you over in the end
I'm excited for the finally
Alpha Omega intro/outro was only animated to match the animated black ops 2 cut scenes since it had a lot of bo2 content. Blood and Classified were not animated.
Nah it’s money related
@radaustin27 I think that when the story is wrapped up and 115 is purged it will set up the story line for the reboot of the new story line and will allow them to close loose ends in the next game and the story would follow in chronological order after all this cycle stuff in a linear story line once again
In my opinion, the story line has never been a let down, and neither have any of the games, including BO4. I think we just have really high expectations after a game like BO3 being so good. It’s just unfortunate that the maps never live up to the “hype” everyone has. In my opinion though, I love this map - I think it’s awesome
i respect you waiting to form a final opinion on this map but idk i’m not a fan i feel like they could’ve done so much more
Ya know.....I'm thinking that MAYBE...JUST MAYBE..since samantha is a part of the great war plan now...maybe the shadowman might play a part in the "final" aether dlc. But instead of being the bad guy..maybe he will try to help the crews kill Monty...THEN they will have to kill HIM.
I was pretty satisfied with Alpha Omega, I was hoping for more but I got most of what I wanted, I am both excited and nervous for the end, I really hope and feel like they are gonna go balls to the walls with it
Who is Eddie? I’ve never understood why there is another version of Richtofen not related to the souls killed of 1.0 characters...
its on the timeline that he gets taken to the house. he enters the mpd so he could access the aether to destroy 115. Monty needs to stop that.
Are the 1.0 characters in the summoning key the exact same as the ultimus team we meet in classified if so how are they in the summoning key and in alpha omega at the same time ?
They are not the same
So is it possible the Aether story will reboot like you said....or are we stuck with Chaos. Don't get me wrong I like Chaos so far but it would be more exciting to see a more simple version of the Aether with our old characters or maybe even new, without time travel and other dimensions.
This is how I hope the story ends
A plot twist such that we kill Monty, only to find out that he isn't the main antagonist and that there is a much bigger threat which is the Aether, as in like the aether is an entity basically made of the entirety of 115 in the universe. It could be like this female conscious being, which we have no hope of defeating whatsoever and it would drain samantha out of her powers making her useless. We could have all our crews that are still alive in the universe at the boss fight arena via some sort of release sequence. Where we just hopelessly try to destroy aether, but to no avail, as it starts viciously Iconic characters that we love like the wolf king etc. victis sacrificing themselves somehow, which may lead to begin to show any real damage to Aether. Primis then sacrificing themselves in a tragic way which is critical damage, and ultimis and samantha dealing the final blow, burning agartha down. and the universe starts again with no 115 and just one universe and so on. I imagine Aether being like a neon blue character with a female voice, she seducing those that come into contact with 115 and could e the one behind the voices of the corrupted characters.
I'm probably hyping myself up for no reason and It'll probably be very underwhelming
So the biggest enigma is the kronorium. Monty didn’t expect it to show Richthofen and Nikolai their true paths?
Because the cycle was broken and since the Ultimus and Primis crews have now met and are working together, could that be why it's German Samantha in Primis Samantha's body? Because the cycle was broken and the two teams are now together, could that have cause the two versions to merge into one?
9:51 basically describing Game of Thrones
Reed... Do I have this right because my monkey brain is hurting...
Monty wanted to be able to control the universe, but with multiple dimensions and 115 distortions this wasn't possible. So he set out to create an isolated universe untethered to others that couldn't be manipulated by any outside force but himself. To achieve this, he needed the help of our crews to eliminate possible entry points into this perfect universe, which would ultimately lead to their sacrifice and the new, grand cycle, would ensure this kept happening. But, with the knowledge of the their end (revelations), the crew now operates knowing that following Monty's design will always lead them to doom and now are acting to end his control.
The souls in the house uncorrupted by 115 seem to me to be direct paths through which Monty can influence the person through all realities in which they are present, which means keeping them under his thumb and out of his way. Hence Richtofen saying Nikolai needed to keep his soul, in order to fight Monty. They needed a free soul who couldn't be manipulated by Monty to read the Kronorium and guide them rather than Richtofen whose soul was always going to be susceptible given where his work would always take him. Now that Edward and Sam are out of the house, neither are under Monty's thumb. Sam does what Sam tends to do.... goes berserk for vengeance... but what of Edward? What would Edward's soul do now without the influence of Monty over it?
You started playing actual rendered cutscenes which was really jarring
Who was that apothican that ate maxis ? Was it Monty or the Shadowman
monty
@@Radaustin27 damnnn I though he was a keeper and keepers are the good side ..
When a few radios are more interesting than all this season of zombies. 🤷♂️🤦♂️🤷♂️🤦♂️
*Dr Monty never planned on fixing Anything*
wish we got a DE style boss fight as u said Reed. they need more like that one
Zombies factions???
Surely both ultimis and primis are to die as they are both riddled with 115. Surely if they go back to the real world the world will still be exposed to 115 and their quest would be pointless
Haven't watched yet, but I'm throwing the final battle out to be Sam and Eddie versus Mini Monty and the Shadowboy.
Dru Owen i think it’ll be way more than just a 2v2 thing but who knows
This story is really confusing man
If Dr.Monty is evil could we possibly team up with the shadowman since the enemy of my enemy and of the two sides of the Great War are Monty vs shadowman why would we team with Monty. I was also wondering if maybe since Monty is evil the shadowman is actually good and I tried to find some weird justification for his actions like “Well he only trapped the people in shadows of evil who had sinned and were actually bad people”but then how do you justify his species sending 115 to places to destroy with zombies🤷🏽♂️ (Obviously the answer could just be we fight on neither side and the promos crew with the robes and staff fight both sides in the Great War
My god, so what if Chaos is the story after Aether, when 115 is deleted and the whole universe restarts, yet another material and group corrupts the world and causes yet more zombies, we all know how similar Prima Materia is to 115 in the sense that it’s quite unknown and is similar in the fashion of causing zombies. I could always see them leaving it just open enough to connect the 2 stories if something went wrong and honestly I suppose that door is not exactly closed. Crackpot theory sure, but who knows lol
Superslash Cool theory. But definitely not. Prima Materia has been said to be around since literally before Christ and maybe even before that. And they’ve started that Chaos and Aether have no correlation at all. They’re in their own separated universes.
I understand that the crews are about the Great War against Monty but what I don’t get is how the map will look. Will it look kind of like Rev or will it look like the Great War from alpha omega’s intro. Anything can happen I guess.
Swaggy zombie 22 if it’s gonna be a remake it’s going to be origins but I don’t think we’ll see many of the same areas besides the mound with PaP I think it’ll be more so based off of origins but if it’s going to be a whole new place it’s gotta be Agartha I would think, because Revelations was essentially the Aether, the physical space but the Aether is something beyond that
I hope it's an original because the recent maps are just remakes of past ones with a few changes.
I vote for some of the characters to start saying Endgame quotes
can you explain why is eddy here and how can he be useful cause it seem samantha is the one with the juice
4:08 I SEE THE SHADOW MAN!
I figure Samantha now has the same power as Monty and the Shadowman...maybe she knows how to use it maybe not
Is it me, or does it seem like there’s a lot more things that need to happen in the story for there only being 1 map left?
I don’t want this story to end.
Me either. I hate the chaos story
Part of the journey...... is the end . A great avenger once said that so I’m ready for it to end
SO THATS WHY THISE GIANT APOPTHICON THREW THE ELEMENT 115 THREW THE RIFT THEY ARE TRYING TO PURGE IT
So what caused the cycle to break in the first place? This radio makes it sound like the blood vials are what keep the cycle going, so if we kept the cycle going in bo3, what broke it in Blood of the dead?
Dilly Bar I think it’s essentially the fact that the weasel could break his cycle and kill the others, that the outer cycle was broken when Al did a certain something different, whether knowingly or unknowingly. Or maybe it just is the simple fact that Al DID break the cycle and that causes the kronorium pages to change because it recalls the events of Mob, so if the Mob cycle broke at any point, in theory that should make the pages change. So essentially the Successful Mob events perhaps takes place right before they arrive in Blood.
What if the group arrives at the house to kill monty but the original cycle crew arrive at the same time?
This is taking from Maxis ee side in bo2 zombies. The next story after this could take Richtofen ee side in the new story.
What an amazing map: storyline/rayguns/ map layout is really good (even if its based on bo2 nuketown) +the ee is by far my favourite in bo4 but ,
i really hoped they make some gameplay changes or finally add a reward System for more replay value. There is just no reason to play this map again After you did the ee.
Its a shame bc all this good maps in bo4 are ruined by the gameplay and no rewards.
Is there an explanation now for Weasle hearing Nikolai's name?
Fractures he's was now Reading the book timeliness changed
Hear me out....So what if Monty and shadow man are both villains, and the team knows they must reboot the universe without 115 or aether to win. So they end up doing so and the new universe is the universe of the chaos storyline. I know they're not supposed to be connected but they still share perks, magic drops, potions and other connections that are so obvious I feel like people arent paying attention to it, I mean, if they used the aether and the summoning key to create the multiverse of the aether story then how would there even be a universe without it? prima materia
Samantha looking like violet from the incredibles lol
After hearing the radios, I don't think Primis and Ultimis will be succesful. Unless DLC 4 explains and wraps up most of the missing holes in the storyline.
What happens if the chaos storyline is the rebooted universe? Sorry if this comment sounds dumb
UnevenFlameman it’s not linked with the ather story dude. They are just separate stories treyarch made to make more dlc for black ops 4
UnevenFlameman chaos is brand new they wouldn’t reboot it, it’s defiantly an aether reboot (if it even happens)
These radios make the cutscene very sad
Lol in the end we find out that the kids where the transit crew
There are radios hidden in the map there is one in the bus. I dont know where the rest are but they are different then these ones
Plot twist, chaos is the continuation of aether but after the reboot
Pls, no.
It feels like Treyarch always does zombies dirty... that they really don’t care about, only the zombies team cares about it.
I’m leaning towards an origins type map for the war
For a moment lets just compare bo3 DLC 3 GOROD KROVI with BO4 DLC 3 nuketown.... there really isnt competition.... i got scammed of a new map for a blackout remaster ;(
Honestly couldve been an amazing side map but a main DLC MAP.... cmon treyarch
Maybe this story would be written better if we didn't have the chaos story
Could've gotten a couple extra maps.