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oooh Arabic maybe I should brush up on my writing skills....you want a native editor? Of course I trust you have very smart people already doing the work, I'm just intruiged
Here are my steps for learning Japanese: 1) Hiragana Katakana 2) Kanji and Grammar 3) Speaking and Communication with real Japanese People (although this step can start from the very beginning) 4) Writing Essays and Reading Japanese News Articles 5) Never stop speaking and keep learning Kanji.
"3) Speaking and Communication with real Japanese People (although this step can start from the very beginning)" It is difficult in my country(Estonia). There are very, very few Japanese. Mby there are other ways to communicate, but I dont know about them yet.
Speaking with yourself is really useful but when I'm tired of it I sing. I search the lyrics in one language I'm confortable with and the one that I'm learning. Is specially hard with Japanese since usually there's Kanji I haven't seen before but that's my favorite way of learning.
The only problem is that a different part of your brain is used for singing than in speaking, so while it might help your pronunciation, it probably won't help your actual ability to speak that much. I love singing in Japanese too tho :D
@@user-kl3pl1gf7x besides learning vocabulary and pronunciation, I actually love how it helps me get used to connect words, I mean, as you are forced to follow a rhythm is like training for avoiding a robotic accent 😆
@@marah3298 Singing helps me learn and remember vocabulary especially as I remember the meanings of lyrics and phrases, so then I can piece them together while singing and memorize them for regular use.
This is my biggest problem. Plus I have some social anxiety so it’s hard for me to put myself out there and speak a language that isn’t my own. I’m trying though. I want to find a consistent speaking partner in Japanese and Vietnamese.
I think the actual most important thing in learning a language is that, just like everything else in the world, it's totally okay to make mistakes and it's totally okay to seek help when you don't know something, so long as you're trying your best. In this regard, the schooling system we've built fails miserably, as it fosters a negative environment where you may feel that "everything you do must be absolutely perfect or else you're an abject failure". This can be especially true if you have anxiety issues or you take your studies perhaps a bit too seriously or something like that. But thankfully the everyday world is not nearly as cruel. So in my opinion, one of the first and most important things to learn when learning a language is to prepare yourself to be wrong and to know that that is okay. It is a part of growing and nothing catastrophic is going to happen to you because of it somewhere as mundane as in a class or at a language exchange. The world is not a cruel closed book test being presided over by your least favourite teacher, but rather a partner or group research project where if you are willing to put in the effort, any decent person will be more willing to meet you halfway and help you out. Good luck in your studies everyone!
Very well said! I completely agree. Making mistakes is not a bad thing if one chooses to turn it into something they can learn from rather than a failure that they criticize themselves for and can't move on from.
it's worst than this, school is outwited by internet now. you have everything online in your way, with better tools. beside socializing, school is meaningless
That’s me basically. I’ve been learning japanese for more than 8 years; able to read and write well, as well as understanding the conversations. Sadly, when comes to speaking in class, I routinely make grammar mistakes at my first sentence and after which, my words would go haywire due to nervousness. From Singapore.😔
The real solution is to start all your Japanese with a disclaimer. 僕は話すのが下手だけど、読むのや書くのは上手だと思う Something like that? Idk if my sentence if 100% grammatically correct. Idk the exact details/rules of no/koto after verbs
このビデオをありがとうございます。I've been studying Japanese in Shinjuku for the last 2 years and I can only speak a little Japanese. I think the reason I don't use it very much is because the school pushes so much grammar and very little real conversation. They just say go out and start using it. My biggest problem is there is so much grammar in my head that when I try to speak, the grammar gets in the way and I freeze and stop talking. It's SO frustrating!
I can relate to this. I am currently with a language exchange partner and every time we have our 日本語 time, I get used on thinking about the grammar and it always turns out that my brain appears to stopped functioning. It really is frustrating.
I can tell I'm that way now. I'm learning 日本語 online and I've been crammed with so much grammar but when I try to talk to myself out loud using random sentences I notice that I take a long time to form a sentence because I'm trying to figure out the grammar
We have the same problem in Japan when we learn foreign languages. (It's commonly said the language education since Meiji period was focused more on understanding foreign books, contract, manuals, etc...because the opportunity of having conversations was rather limited for most people.) Having studied English, German, and Chinese in Japan...I think it comes down to the same thing in any language. If you want to be able to speak, you should listen a lot of music, tv, youtube in that language. If you want to be able write, read endlessly.
Don't feel bad, there are people that spend years and even decades in Japan and still struggle hard with the language. There are many cultural and grammatic barriers that keep Japanese and English learners from understanding and learning from each other. The real challenge is finding people to talk Japanese with in Japan, as ironic as that sounds it is much harder than you realize since the cultural barrier is usually what limits the social interaction.
Some psychological factor about learning language: There are 4 aspect learning language (RLWS - Reading, Listenting, Writing, Speaking) this 4 aspect devided to 2 groups, reading & listening r the aspect where you only receiving the language, the other 2 (speaking and writing) is completely opposite, you are producing the language by ur own knowledge. This is 2 completely different process in our brain. And mostly when we study, we only read and listen, well and few writing. In order to be able speaking in other language, we have to practice producing language spontaneously, either writing or speaking. But ofcourse best way is practicing to speak, bcs speaking requires to think faster compared to writing.
I tried to talk to japanese people using "hello talk" online and ,i dont know why, but people there start talking and after few days dissapear ((( May be it is normal when you talk to thousands of people every day and dont care how short conversation was but I DO CARE.
I've been studying Japanese for over two years now even though I understand the grammar, know a lot of vocabulary, particles, verb conjugation and everything else I still struggle way too much when creating sentences longer than 5 words. As a native in Portuguese and Fluent English speaker I know exactly why. It's not just because japanese is a different language compared to latin and germanic languages it's actually because japanese speakers think about how communication works completely different from these other languages i mentioned, my japanese skills only peak when I forget about how i think communication should work and start to imagine like a japanese speaker and how he would think about communication. If you get too fixated with direct 1:1 translations between japanese and your main language you'll just get lost
@@Aseyona Thanks man, I still have a lot of kanji and vocab to learn, I wanna learn to read well asap. I'm working now on N4, hope I can pass it this December.
oh wow! that's amazing, i'm about n5 as well and i couldn't understand much because of my very very bad memory 🥲 it's very frustrating but i will keep trying! congrats on passing!!
@@lilichaii Thank you. Don't give up, I watched a lot of anime before I started learning and that helped me with vocab. The more I learn, the more fun it gets. 頑張って ください!
The problem on the second step is that there aren't a lot of Japanese native speakers who would like to practice with us , I've been trying for 2 years to creating conversation but nobody cares so I gave up
I think for me mt biggest barriers to language are Speed I find it hard to keep up with Japanese as the rhythm frequency is faster and I miss things while extracting the meaning. Similarly its hard to hear the separations between words sometimes. When learning and practising it is common for people to slow down to help you but this doesnt help when listening normal speed. So easy sentences are not bad and enough to get by but beyond that is more difficult. I also sometimes have vocabulary gaps in unexpected places. The other difficulty is my full time job gets in the way of study however i can cope well enough for a holiday but Im not likely to become fluent.
@@stephan3077 luckily my Japanese friends have helped, and most Japanese will slow when politely asking if they can repeat slowly. But however my vocabulary doesnt stretch to discussing science and philosophy etc.
@@geekexmachina Same. Also used to frequent a japanese study group but ever since working shifts and also every other weekend its impossible to attend regularly so I rather save the money and study by myself on days off work :c
I super agree with point 3, you just gotta give up English to practice as much Japanese as possible!! I also agree that people who just study grammar on their own won’t get fluent, but i also find a lot of people expect fluency from a tiny bit of studying and watching anime. At the end of the day you still gotta put in the study hours imo〜
I've started only watching your videos without subtitles as my daily practice. Thank you so much for the support and the consistent method of describing topics well. I appreciate you!
That's great advice! However, I'm WAAAAAAY too scared to talk to people in Japanese, even if it's just writing. I'm mortified by the idea. I always hate the fact that I can't express myself properly, and that I look like an idiot. Maybe I just detest that I'm not skilled at what I'm doing. This is super dumb, and I have to break this inner barrier. I mean, I also was able to speak English at one point, even though it took me a long time. Only when I became proficient at reading and listening, I felt confident enough to communicate with it. But even then it was still a huge struggle in the beginning. For Japanese I really need to change my attitude, or I fear I'll never reach a useful level of proficiency...
Japanese people are amazing and they are sincerely impressed and grateful even when you can speak only a little Japanese. So they'll always encourage you, always! I think one way to look at it would be, yes, I'm speaking like cr*p but at least I'm having fun learning new words in a language I love.
I found that it helps if you practice with a Japanese person speaking English, so you can switch. You can ask them to talk back in Japanese as much as possible, so you can hear them speak. When you hear the nouns and subjects of what you're talking about it gets much easier to get into the conversation, and easier to talk back in Japanese. And even if you get most particles and grammar points wrong, if you just say words with a verb in the direction of what you want to say, it is already a great exercise to actively remember vocabulary and train your mind to start thinking in that language. And then if there is a specific word or sentence pattern you don't understand you can ask them to say it in English, which is very helpful.
I mean most people aren‘t idiots, they will understand that you‘re new and not proficient. If you meet an idiot that laughs at you or something like that, just move on to a decent human being as language partner.
It's worth remembering that Japanese is a niche language, in that there's only ONE country on earth where the language is spoken. Japanese people are often baffled why you'd even choose to learn Japanese. Then you tell them you love the culture, and then they feel genuinely flattered. So if you speak Crapanese, they're just impressed and will try to flex some random English words at you.
I have a double whammy against me when I speak. Even in English, I have a hard time understanding what people are saying sometimes, and I don't like my voice. So I don't want to talk out loud unless I have to, and I'll hear something and be unsure what exactly the person said in the first place. Having a conversation is hard and answering is hard. But I don't want to give up on learning other languages, especially Japanese. But maybe I'll learn sign language next and get around both issues ^^;
This really motivated me a lot! I study Japanese at university and I find it quite hard to be resolute in my speaking skills. Also, side note, the Italian subtitles with the Japanese ones together were so useful for this video!! ✨✨
Just think about if someone learning your native language spoke to you brokenly. Would you mentally shame them? Think it's weird? Or would you understand they're studying hard and try to talk to them!? :)
I definitely fall into category number 1 and 2. I watched this video without subtitles and had no problem understanding it, but I most likely wouldn't be able to have a conversation about it. My listening level is pretty damn god, but my speaking level is still very much "beginner." I'm more focused on learning Korean right now because I actually have someone to practice it with, but I'm going to take these tips and apply it to learning Korean, and not be afraid to start speaking immediately!
Point 1 is so true! I really thought I had to memorise all the grammar points before I start practicing how to speak but I’m really quite dumb(I can’t just study like this. I learned my times tables through songs when I was a child and I still recite them by singing the songs) I’ve realised I don’t remember what I’m supposed to say. (And I’m only like just over a month in, it’s only the basics of the basics) I’m self learning as I’m doing my degree and there are other things I need to remember. This makes it really tough to apply what I learn. Regarding point 2, I was so so so scared of burdening people since I’m such a beginner. I’m really quite thankful for my exchange partner on Hellotalk who didn’t mind taking some time off to do a language exchange and even run through the basics so I’ll be on my first call tomorrow 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
Since I'm better at reading than speaking in Japanese, I study speech by talking to myself! For instance, if I'm looking for something I lost, I'll say something like 「Ｘはどこですか？」 For me, it creates a space where I'm able to easily switch which language mode I'm in, so I feel more comfortable using it. I might be wrong about the grammar (probably used が wrong a few times here and there), but I think it helps to try to speak or else, in a real conversation, you might become confused and freeze.
Not really good advice. Doing so causes bad habits, especially with no one around to correct your word choice, speech, pronounciation etc. It's just gonna result in making things up if something is unknown, which will make you just sound like a weirdo to the natives.
Having social anxiety and being anti-social sucks... But some of these comments and videos help. I'll try singing, talking to myself, etc. I'm still pretty early in my learning process, but I feel happy that I was at least picking up a few sentences here and there in this video. Plus, your body language helped a ton.
One thing I've been recommended to do to learn Japanese was writing down on a paper a hypothetical conversation about something, (mostly things I like) so when you have an exchange with a Japanese person you have an idea of how to say things. In the worst case, if what you wrote is wrong or didn't feel normal, you can ask the other person for a better way to say "x" thing. I have yet to practice this because I don't know who to talk to, and I don't know where to find a person to practice with in person. What I do instead is imagining the conversation in my mind so I can start "thinking" in Japanese and don't get stuck thinking about what or how to say something Another thing I like to do to practice is grabbing a WN I'm interested in and try translating it. I think it helps me in some way, and if for some reason I don't understand a sentence, I just hop into google and search for the grammar that was used so I can study it. The problem with this is that sometimes I don't know who is speaking. Since I don't have an image (like in manga) or something to tell me who is talking, I have trouble understanding it due to how often they omit pronouns, and Japanese doesn't have words with gender. Another problem I sometimes have is that I have no idea how to search for a grammatical sentence I don't understand. I also love watching seiyuu clips and hearing the radio programs. Although I understand almost nothing of the latter, lol
The "learn the grammar first" strategy really only works for people who have a background in linguistics in my opinion. For example if in Korean, Mandarin, and Japanese particles/ suffixes mark verb aspect, knowing what those are and how they are used lets you plug the particles into sentences very easily. If you don't know what those are though, the various uses could be much more confusing and it could be difficult to remember all the particles.
That may explain why I'm still stuck in N4~N3, the grammar gets more nuanced and I start to feel like applying it on phrases apparently disconnected from context isn't enough anymore. I'm trying to keep reading stuff in Japanese, for instance, so I think I get a better grasp on how the language is really used. From my experience, grammar books usually do little in that aspect, you really have to go out there and practice with someone else until the grammar point gets stuck in your head. Also true for vocabulary. That was particularly why I learned English quite well, talking to people, as troublesome as it is sometimes, is indeed the thing to go for.
I wish I had someone to speak Japanese with 😭😭😭 doing study sessions together will be so fun !!! Studying alone is indeed boring .. thank you for this video !! 🧸
Im currently, taking Japnese Literature on my University and damn im so thankfull my school has a lesson for speech every week, not just vocabularies, listenings and reading, and to add to that I joined a Kaiwa club where there's actually natives there so no matter how confuse you get, you're just gonna have to use what u can to speak to them, and as long as u tried, in my experience they'd try to understand and even help you get through what you want to say XDD
when I was at high school the teacher speak with classmates in english, the first year I was think "she's crazy I don't understand nothing😩"but after 2 years, I understand a lot of the lessons and I speak in english text; in the end I think "thanks teacher!". I speak the first time out the school after 3 or 4 years, their are from Holland and their speak German, but I don't know the German and their don't know italian 😆, we are speak in english! I used now (your) this method for english and japanese :)
Regarding the 3rd point: I highly recommend the "learnjapanese" subreddit in case anyone isn't aware of it yet. They have a weekly thread on Mondays were you can ask even the most basic and beginner-level questions and after asking questions there for a couple of months it is almost like an online notebook that you can go back to to refresh your memory. It's a great learning tool
My native Tongue is Thai and because English is not my native language I did learned English but I completely forgotten how. I assume it be the same for Japanese as well, Currently I learn as I go. I already can speak with greetings and goodbyes for both morning, afternoon and night. For me I just need more words to learn and be able to put it together. The more words I understand the more I can use. If its something new I never said before I practice. But singing Japanese can help as well like how I used Digimon OST as my source. I was meant to learn Japanese when I used to live in japan as a kid but back then I was a different person and was not 100% into Japanese until later in life which I regret not learning earlier. Things I learned as I type in Japanese on my keyboard: おはいよございます こんにちわ げんきですか？ さよなら
I'm learning Japanese too and I learn with apps and books. I write the Kanjis over and over again. I listen to the adios in my apps and repeat what they say. And I make quizzes so the words stay in my mind. And I have cards where I wrote a single Kanji on one card and try to remember what it means and how to pronounce and read it.
03:32 Same. I start out by learning the language, its structures, grammar, common expressions, and some extent of practical vocabulary that applies to my daily life and my interests. THEN I begin to try to form sentences to describe what I'm doing in my daily life while going about my routines, look up any words I have forgotten or have yet to learn. Once describing my daily life becomes easier, I move on to THINKING in said language (I limit myself to the vocabulary of that specific language), as a casual "game of daily life". NOTE: I take breaks from this "game" when I interact with strangers. When I have interacted with my surroundings, I try to think of ways to describe what this interaction was like and how the conversation may have sounded like in the foreign language I'm attempting to learn. Little by little, a few words a day (or one completely new sentence a day), through revision and challenging myself day by day, I learn a little more.
it's actually so common that classes never actually teach phrases you can use in a real conversation and i've had to look up anything i wanted to say personally every time. It does make it really difficult to actually say anything interesting about myself or others.
I've been studying Japanese for > 5 years now, while I can understand, what I'm struggling with is always the 丁寧さ, which I often tell new Japanese friends to please pardon me and don't take it too hard if I misuse anything. I do also request them to correct me if I'm wrong in any words usage. ドラマや映画を見る時、字幕は英語の代わりに日本語にするもすごく効きますよ！今、そんなふうに勉強しています。
I don't know if it's a typo, or you just made a mistake, but in case it's a mistake you should say 日本語にするのも, since without the の, the verb is not nominalized, very few verbs ( within special expressions) can take a particle without the need of being nominalized, and from what I know する is not one of them
@@aya4292 yeah this seems correct! also want to ask if 効く used in this context is correct, as I've only seen it used when talking about medicine/treatment and the likes. I think a better way of saying "effective" would be 効果的
@@ethan________ yep you're totally right, I wouldn't use it here in this context, as it sounds a little weird, and would say instead 効果的, but I can't say for sure if 効く is wrong, or just less correct.
It’s like this psychological thought problem where you are in a black and white room and learn about the properties of color, but you can only truly understand other colors when u experience it and stand outside the room
My first language is Italian, i learned english without knowing any grammar and just by watching films and yt with subtitles. I'm so glad that i learned it this way because now things in this language just comes at me naturally and i don't have to memorize anything. I'm trying to learn japanese but I'm having some struggles remembering how to write hiragana, i didn't even start grammar but I'm already having problems :(
it is really so much fun to practice with other people. i draw sometimes, and what i've taken to doing is making comics, and then trying to translate the dialogue into japanese by myself or with friends. just learning by app, or reading, or watching movies, or playing games won't help you hone your skill !
Honestly, I sucked at English lessons, and was unmotivated. Learnt some grammar yeah, but better I grasped English through playing Nintendo games with a friend and starting to read books in English. And later, starting to write my story in English. And I'm much more fluent in understanding and typing than I believed I could become! Because outside school ways are fun and motivating to learn, like when you want to understand so you can understand what happens in the game story etc. Now, I'm doing the same with Japanese, especially with games, manga, anime, and other authentic content that is both fun, challenging and yet motivating, likewise this channel~!
I am so so so so so so glad I found you. Litterally exactly my problem. Over 10 years and still nada. And all these youtubers aren't helping. They only include English or Japanese subititles. One or the other. But it's just not enough. You have to do it this way. It's the only way for some of us to learn. And even English version of the Japanese words would be nice too
This is actually true especially if you are reading the nihongo book recommended by those who study n5 and above. I found one week of actual conversation with my japanese friends (online) is effective than my months of studying alone. Thank you ono!!
I just wanted to say that, this video made my day, i understood everything even if I can't repeat it word by word I did understand it thank you for the video and thank you for motivating me
I’ve been exposed to Japanese since I was 18. Although I actually took Japanese classes in university for 2 semester (N4 equivalent) but then due to some circumstances, I took 1 year off. Then I have to take Japanese from the beginning again (2 semesters again) and then I don’t have time to study N3 again due to university work. So I am now self-study. However, the most difficult part is to find Japanese person to converse. I’m 22 now but I’ve never met Japanese around my age. Except for my Sensei, so I found that my communication is very weak. My way of learning is to expose to the language as much as possible even when I struggle with it everyday so much. I need to practice so that I won’t forget. Japanese is actually my third language that I really want to learn about it so much that I will have to travel to Japan so that I can practice with the local 😂
When I start learning a language, I always try to translate everything in my mind, in said language, so even if I don't know the word, I for sure heard it in a song or a film, and try to remember it, and mostly it works. It helps a lot even when doing simple things like daily tasks "I want to watch this thing" "All these things are on my shopping list" and so on. Talking to yourself helps too, but only when no one is around to hear you. But when speaking to natives, I always get nervous the first time because "This is a real (language) speaker and I have to make a good impression" and then all the words I've learned suddenly disappear and I don't know what to say haha.
Thank you so much for these videos! Your captions are done correctly, using the built in caption tool, and you are so kind and provide Japanese and english captions. I wish more people did captions like yours, even the videos that have nothing to do with language learning! Using the caption feature means I can change the font size and colors, so it’s very easy to read. Thank you for your hard work!
If only I can understand Nihongo well then I'll be glad to help you in Filipino subtitles, well gladly most of the us can speak/understand English. By the way, thank you so much for always showing us new things while you were just sitting in your room haha
I'm currently studying Nihongo and I'm listening to Japanese music, podcast and vlogs everyday so I can learn the language quickly. I also have a plan to make a short conversation to a real Japanese person personally or through socmed like omegle, skype etc.
I studied Japanese formally for four years in college (I casually taught myself since middle school), but when I arrived in Japan for work, it all disappeared!! I had to learn by immersion. It was really scary, but by three end off my three years in Japan, I was able to carry on small conversations with people. I want to keep studying and speaking with people, but there aren't a lot of Japanese people where I live. 😢
I’m in the same situation where I wanna learn a language but there’s barely anyone I can go to who speaks that language and I’m basically surrounded by my native language so learning a second language is much harder and slower because I don’t hear it often and because I don’t hear it often, I can’t speak or write even a quarter as good as my native language
I used to learn hiragana and katakana 8 years ago by myself when I was a kid, now I'm back learning japanese grammar and I have zero problem reading hirakana. The only thing I struggle with is kanji.
Don't focus on learning how to write kanji as much. Everything is done mainly online now so don't waste your time now focusing on how to write!! Practice speaking as it will be more useful (if you are planning to move there)
i always wonder how to say "how do you say ___ in japanese" so when i saw 6:49 i thought to myself "that's it?? it was that easy??" i didn't expect it to be so easy i could've been asking myself that question months ago😭
私は香港人です。I am a Japanese beginner。I think Japanese is a complicated but interesting Language. Japanese just like a combination of Chinese and English with different order of adverb , subject and verb 。 私は頑張って日本語を勉強します💪💪
i learn english by talking to myself alot and i got used to it. for 4 years now and i can say that my english is much more better than my native language (i got used to it to think in english) lol but sometimes i dont even realise that i talk to myself i always think about having a convo with someone but i think its been 4 years i talk to myself and i can say that i prolly have mental illness now. but japanese is hella different i feel like its waaaaaaaaayyyyyyy moreeeeeeeeeeeeee harderrrrrrrr
I actually turned off the subtitles for this because i wanna practice if i can still understand Japanese with videos where people speak japanese. I found out that i cant understand japanese from audios but cant understand japanese in words and letters so im currently studying japanese by listening to audios or videos that are in Japanese while trying to learn the alphabet and basic japanese conversation i cant say i understood everything but i do understand what you were talking about and saying in the video
I started dabbling in Japanese over a decade ago and I can understand most of this video without subtitles, but it's such a shame that I hardly ever took learning Japanese seriously. Now, I am okay with the level that I have. However, I would like to become properly fluent in Mandarin, and I don't want to make the same mistakes again as those mentioned in the video.
I have no one in my town that speaks 日本語. I have seen words written in kana and thought, I don’t know what that says, it’s in a foreign language. But I can read kana! I am at a beginner level. I think if I heard someone speaking in Japanese I would not understand even the words and phrases I have studied. I am thrilled when I hear a song and can understand random words, or pause a show and can read the kana in the background.
I'm a native English and Spanish speaker and this is very interesting towards me learning since I'm currently learning Japanese and a lot of this tips help towards that. If you ever want help with your Spanish I love to help, thanks for the great video.
ありがとうございます! I am trying to do all those so I hope I will improve 😁 When I am practising conversations with my japanese teacher, I always try to speak in japanese and when I dont know the translation of the word I wanna use I try to create "katakana version" of the word 😂 and sometimes I am right.. 私は頑張ります💪🏻
I fall under the category of studying alone, and also trying to speak Japanese feels forced and i often have trouble talking without a lisp. I hope to be able to speak Japanese before i visit. I can even pronounce the "r" sound!
My mom: says that I should speak Japanese with her so I can practice Also my mom: ridicules my existence with every mistake I make like a typical asian parent
i do the same . i learnt french and English at school but i'd always practice talking to myself and singing different songs it helps me more memorize words
なるほどね〜 i’ve noticed though that as i learn more and more japanese, i just try not focus so much on the textbook grammar, and instead listen to actual japanese conversations and just copy what they do. if i’m watching a show or just any youtuber, i’ll listen to them carefully and remember what they’ve said and how they structured the sentence. it’s easier to just copy them, than to know every single reason why the sentence is form a certain way in my opinion ｡ﾟ(ﾟ´ω`ﾟ)ﾟ｡ it has helped me improve my conversation skills a lot faster, and i sound a lot more natural ! 頑張ってみんな〜
I felt really stuck when learning with textbooks such as Genki. They bombard you with grammar but I don't know how to practice it after that. You have some excersices on the book but it's not enough to imprint it in your mind. Now I'm trying with the Pimsleur method and I'm drilling day-to-day conversations in my mind so at least I have some leeway when speaking. I'm finding it quite useful, and I just change the formal speech with informal speech and search on google how some sentences are constructed
Point 3 that you make is something I really struggle with. Not with learning Japanese; I want to learn Japanese more than anything, but getting properly into it right now is unfortunately not possible due to my current life circumstances. But I do am also learning Spanish right now, as my 5th language (I am fluent in Dutch and English, while having a decent ability in French, German, and Spanish). My problem with the latter 3 languages however is that, while I am not afraid to speak or mess up, you usually don't find yourself in situations where you are talking just for the sake of practicing talking. Rather, you are in some situation, where you are trying to convey X or Y to a person. In that case, I feel this natural urge to automatically shift to whatever language I am actually good at speaking, as that will allow me to get my point across faster and more efficiently. So even though I "know" these three languages to a decent extent, in practice anyone whom I could talk these languages to generally also knows one or both of the languages that I'm actually fluent in. It's such a stupid barrier to overcome; like I know loads of German people. Every time I find myself questioning why I don't just speak German to them. And every time I find myself just shifting to English.
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Anything that helps us to convey our thoughts directly should be considered as a language
So everyone is biliungal
Yes you can 😎. But to be serious... why not too learn a sign language? :) This idea came to me when I met a deaf person.
oooh Arabic maybe I should brush up on my writing skills....you want a native editor? Of course I trust you have very smart people already doing the work, I'm just intruiged
thank you for arabic subtitle
you are the beast 💝
yes you can count your body language as your 5th language 👍😇
Your body language is so expressive xD
Here are my steps for learning Japanese:
1) Hiragana Katakana
2) Kanji and Grammar
3) Speaking and Communication with real Japanese People (although this step can start from the very beginning)
4) Writing Essays and Reading Japanese News Articles
5) Never stop speaking and keep learning Kanji.
Oh thanks
Thanks, I found a japanese person online so he is helping me out a lot speaking.
"3) Speaking and Communication with real Japanese People (although this step can start from the very beginning)"
It is difficult in my country(Estonia). There are very, very few Japanese. Mby there are other ways to communicate, but I dont know about them yet.
Thanks man! That's what I need! ❤🎉
of course anime inserted in between and during all steps as well
Speaking with yourself is really useful but when I'm tired of it I sing. I search the lyrics in one language I'm confortable with and the one that I'm learning. Is specially hard with Japanese since usually there's Kanji I haven't seen before but that's my favorite way of learning.
Same here I love singing it sometimes it works and easy to get more vocabulary
The only problem is that a different part of your brain is used for singing than in speaking, so while it might help your pronunciation, it probably won't help your actual ability to speak that much. I love singing in Japanese too tho :D
@@user-kl3pl1gf7x besides learning vocabulary and pronunciation, I actually love how it helps me get used to connect words, I mean, as you are forced to follow a rhythm is like training for avoiding a robotic accent 😆
I’m going to try this to help me learn Japanese.
@@marah3298 Singing helps me learn and remember vocabulary especially as I remember the meanings of lyrics and phrases, so then I can piece them together while singing and memorize them for regular use.
In fairness, we can’t even understand each other a lot of the time here in the UK.
How do you guys live
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@@marxiewasalittlegirl Just nod and smile at the right moments 😂
@@smallsymcsmalls8331 I'll take notes 😂. Might be useful if I go there
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This is my biggest problem. Plus I have some social anxiety so it’s hard for me to put myself out there and speak a language that isn’t my own. I’m trying though. I want to find a consistent speaking partner in Japanese and Vietnamese.
Same.
me too i always feel like i may say something wrong 😭
Same here, I'm even struggling with speaking to the people of my language in the internet/games, not to say about english or japanese
Im learning Japanese and Vietnamese too 😁. I recommend you to move to Vietnam where you can practice both languages easly.
I’m learning Vietnamese too!!
The way he speaks so “slowly” and also puts captions in both languages helps me regain confidence :))) ty a lot
I think the actual most important thing in learning a language is that, just like everything else in the world, it's totally okay to make mistakes and it's totally okay to seek help when you don't know something, so long as you're trying your best.
In this regard, the schooling system we've built fails miserably, as it fosters a negative environment where you may feel that "everything you do must be absolutely perfect or else you're an abject failure". This can be especially true if you have anxiety issues or you take your studies perhaps a bit too seriously or something like that. But thankfully the everyday world is not nearly as cruel.
So in my opinion, one of the first and most important things to learn when learning a language is to prepare yourself to be wrong and to know that that is okay. It is a part of growing and nothing catastrophic is going to happen to you because of it somewhere as mundane as in a class or at a language exchange. The world is not a cruel closed book test being presided over by your least favourite teacher, but rather a partner or group research project where if you are willing to put in the effort, any decent person will be more willing to meet you halfway and help you out.
Good luck in your studies everyone!
Very well said! I completely agree. Making mistakes is not a bad thing if one chooses to turn it into something they can learn from rather than a failure that they criticize themselves for and can't move on from.
it's worst than this, school is outwited by internet now.
you have everything online in your way, with better tools.
beside socializing, school is meaningless
Where is the "too scared to look for a speaking partner" squad at? 🤚
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Sup
ここです!
hello there
こちらです~
That’s me basically. I’ve been learning japanese for more than 8 years; able to read and write well, as well as understanding the conversations. Sadly, when comes to speaking in class, I routinely make grammar mistakes at my first sentence and after which, my words would go haywire due to nervousness. From Singapore.😔
日本語力の自信があったら、もっと話そうとする。頑張れよ。
The real solution is to start all your Japanese with a disclaimer.
僕は話すのが下手だけど、読むのや書くのは上手だと思う
Something like that? Idk if my sentence if 100% grammatically correct. Idk the exact details/rules of no/koto after verbs
@@bobbywhite5319 I’ll take your advise. Hey, thanks very much.😌
@@Reforming_LL 先生, ありがとうございます。諦めないのです。😌
Hey, from singapore too! がんばってね！
このビデオをありがとうございます。I've been studying Japanese in Shinjuku for the last 2 years and I can only speak a little Japanese. I think the reason I don't use it very much is because the school pushes so much grammar and very little real conversation. They just say go out and start using it. My biggest problem is there is so much grammar in my head that when I try to speak, the grammar gets in the way and I freeze and stop talking. It's SO frustrating!
I wonder if that's also why it's hard for a lot of Japanese people to speak English. A lot of focus on theory, but very little conversation practice.
I can relate to this. I am currently with a language exchange partner and every time we have our 日本語 time, I get used on thinking about the grammar and it always turns out that my brain appears to stopped functioning. It really is frustrating.
I can tell I'm that way now. I'm learning 日本語 online and I've been crammed with so much grammar but when I try to talk to myself out loud using random sentences I notice that I take a long time to form a sentence because I'm trying to figure out the grammar
We have the same problem in Japan when we learn foreign languages. (It's commonly said the language education since Meiji period was focused more on understanding foreign books, contract, manuals, etc...because the opportunity of having conversations was rather limited for most people.)
Having studied English, German, and Chinese in Japan...I think it comes down to the same thing in any language. If you want to be able to speak, you should listen a lot of music, tv, youtube in that language. If you want to be able write, read endlessly.
Don't feel bad, there are people that spend years and even decades in Japan and still struggle hard with the language. There are many cultural and grammatic barriers that keep Japanese and English learners from understanding and learning from each other. The real challenge is finding people to talk Japanese with in Japan, as ironic as that sounds it is much harder than you realize since the cultural barrier is usually what limits the social interaction.
Some psychological factor about learning language:
There are 4 aspect learning language (RLWS - Reading, Listenting, Writing, Speaking) this 4 aspect devided to 2 groups, reading & listening r the aspect where you only receiving the language, the other 2 (speaking and writing) is completely opposite, you are producing the language by ur own knowledge. This is 2 completely different process in our brain.
And mostly when we study, we only read and listen, well and few writing. In order to be able speaking in other language, we have to practice producing language spontaneously, either writing or speaking. But ofcourse best way is practicing to speak, bcs speaking requires to think faster compared to writing.
I tried to talk to japanese people using "hello talk" online and ,i dont know why, but people there start talking and after few days dissapear ((( May be it is normal when you talk to thousands of people every day and dont care how short conversation was but I DO CARE.
I find a lot of times on Hello Talk that the Japanese people there only want to speak English.
I've been studying Japanese for over two years now even though I understand the grammar, know a lot of vocabulary, particles, verb conjugation and everything else I still struggle way too much when creating sentences longer than 5 words.
As a native in Portuguese and Fluent English speaker I know exactly why. It's not just because japanese is a different language compared to latin and germanic languages it's actually because japanese speakers think about how communication works completely different from these other languages i mentioned, my japanese skills only peak when I forget about how i think communication should work and start to imagine like a japanese speaker and how he would think about communication.
If you get too fixated with direct 1:1 translations between japanese and your main language you'll just get lost
I've passed JLPT N5 last December and I think I understood almost everything without using the subtitles. Thank you for the tips, Hitoki!
Then you can pass at least n3 dud. Keep good work
@@Aseyona Thanks man, I still have a lot of kanji and vocab to learn, I wanna learn to read well asap. I'm working now on N4, hope I can pass it this December.
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oh wow! that's amazing, i'm about n5 as well and i couldn't understand much because of my very very bad memory 🥲 it's very frustrating but i will keep trying! congrats on passing!!
@@lilichaii Thank you. Don't give up, I watched a lot of anime before I started learning and that helped me with vocab. The more I learn, the more fun it gets. 頑張って ください!
My English when I write: 💪
My Engrish when I speak: 🥶
The problem on the second step is that there aren't a lot of Japanese native speakers who would like to practice with us , I've been trying for 2 years to creating conversation but nobody cares so I gave up
I think for me mt biggest barriers to language are Speed I find it hard to keep up with Japanese as the rhythm frequency is faster and I miss things while extracting the meaning. Similarly its hard to hear the separations between words sometimes. When learning and practising it is common for people to slow down to help you but this doesnt help when listening normal speed.
So easy sentences are not bad and enough to get by but beyond that is more difficult. I also sometimes have vocabulary gaps in unexpected places. The other difficulty is my full time job gets in the way of study however i can cope well enough for a holiday but Im not likely to become fluent.
That sounds very familiar, you basically described my challenges too.
@@stephan3077 luckily my Japanese friends have helped, and most Japanese will slow when politely asking if they can repeat slowly. But however my vocabulary doesnt stretch to discussing science and philosophy etc.
Better eatch tv shows or anime to get the pace thing under your wing.
@@geekexmachina Same. Also used to frequent a japanese study group but ever since working shifts and also every other weekend its impossible to attend regularly so I rather save the money and study by myself on days off work :c
@@geekexmachina but when you watch tv shows, listen to podcast, their natural speed is very fast. This is also where I find japanese difficult.
I super agree with point 3, you just gotta give up English to practice as much Japanese as possible!!
I also agree that people who just study grammar on their own won’t get fluent, but i also find a lot of people expect fluency from a tiny bit of studying and watching anime. At the end of the day you still gotta put in the study hours imo〜
I mean, watching anime does help you, if you’re using Japanese subtitles.
I've started only watching your videos without subtitles as my daily practice. Thank you so much for the support and the consistent method of describing topics well. I appreciate you!
いつも面白い動画作ったんだよね！
Couldn't agree more
Sou Sou ore mo Sou omoimasu yo
僕は日本語の教師です。ネイティブスピーカーじゃないとわかっているから、生徒たちにいつも「生の日本語を聞くためになるべくユーチューブで日本人の動画を見るようにしてください」と言っています。Onomappuさんは簡単で面白い話を通じて日本語の学生の立場から悩んでいることや勉強方法などについてはなしますから特にOnomappuチャンネルを生徒たちに進めます。つまり、こんな面白くて役に立つ動画を作るのはありがとうございます。
That's great advice! However, I'm WAAAAAAY too scared to talk to people in Japanese, even if it's just writing. I'm mortified by the idea. I always hate the fact that I can't express myself properly, and that I look like an idiot. Maybe I just detest that I'm not skilled at what I'm doing. This is super dumb, and I have to break this inner barrier. I mean, I also was able to speak English at one point, even though it took me a long time. Only when I became proficient at reading and listening, I felt confident enough to communicate with it. But even then it was still a huge struggle in the beginning. For Japanese I really need to change my attitude, or I fear I'll never reach a useful level of proficiency...
Japanese people are amazing and they are sincerely impressed and grateful even when you can speak only a little Japanese. So they'll always encourage you, always! I think one way to look at it would be, yes, I'm speaking like cr*p but at least I'm having fun learning new words in a language I love.
I found that it helps if you practice with a Japanese person speaking English, so you can switch. You can ask them to talk back in Japanese as much as possible, so you can hear them speak. When you hear the nouns and subjects of what you're talking about it gets much easier to get into the conversation, and easier to talk back in Japanese. And even if you get most particles and grammar points wrong, if you just say words with a verb in the direction of what you want to say, it is already a great exercise to actively remember vocabulary and train your mind to start thinking in that language. And then if there is a specific word or sentence pattern you don't understand you can ask them to say it in English, which is very helpful.
I mean most people aren‘t idiots, they will understand that you‘re new and not proficient. If you meet an idiot that laughs at you or something like that, just move on to a decent human being as language partner.
It's worth remembering that Japanese is a niche language, in that there's only ONE country on earth where the language is spoken. Japanese people are often baffled why you'd even choose to learn Japanese. Then you tell them you love the culture, and then they feel genuinely flattered. So if you speak Crapanese, they're just impressed and will try to flex some random English words at you.
そういう感じが怖いけど、話すしかないだろう？
I have a double whammy against me when I speak. Even in English, I have a hard time understanding what people are saying sometimes, and I don't like my voice. So I don't want to talk out loud unless I have to, and I'll hear something and be unsure what exactly the person said in the first place. Having a conversation is hard and answering is hard. But I don't want to give up on learning other languages, especially Japanese. But maybe I'll learn sign language next and get around both issues ^^;
This really motivated me a lot! I study Japanese at university and I find it quite hard to be resolute in my speaking skills.
Also, side note, the Italian subtitles with the Japanese ones together were so useful for this video!! ✨✨
I get nervous when i try to speak with native speakers because i get nervous speaking in their language with a broken grammar😥
Thats why i just talk to myself 😂
same
Just think about if someone learning your native language spoke to you brokenly. Would you mentally shame them? Think it's weird? Or would you understand they're studying hard and try to talk to them!? :)
i might need to change my mindset in studying languages, both japanese and french. Thanks as always Hitoki-san!😊
Well, I can speak French fluently so if you agree, I can help you a tiny bit with some grammatical rules and communication
このアドバイスはいいことだと思います。私も４年間ぐらい日本語を教科書で一人で勉強しても、会話ができませんでした。それから、日本語しか話さないところとかに入って無理矢理に日本語で話さないといけませんでした。最初から難しかったですけど、（あとはまだ間違えています）、だんだｎ日本語で会話するようになりました。これからも頑張りますね
سيتم اضافة الترجمة العربية قريبًا 🙏🏼💖 واعتذر عن التأخر 😽💕💓✨
I definitely fall into category number 1 and 2. I watched this video without subtitles and had no problem understanding it, but I most likely wouldn't be able to have a conversation about it. My listening level is pretty damn god, but my speaking level is still very much "beginner." I'm more focused on learning Korean right now because I actually have someone to practice it with, but I'm going to take these tips and apply it to learning Korean, and not be afraid to start speaking immediately!
Point 1 is so true!
I really thought I had to memorise all the grammar points before I start practicing how to speak but I’m really quite dumb(I can’t just study like this. I learned my times tables through songs when I was a child and I still recite them by singing the songs)
I’ve realised I don’t remember what I’m supposed to say. (And I’m only like just over a month in, it’s only the basics of the basics)
I’m self learning as I’m doing my degree and there are other things I need to remember. This makes it really tough to apply what I learn.
Regarding point 2, I was so so so scared of burdening people since I’m such a beginner. I’m really quite thankful for my exchange partner on Hellotalk who didn’t mind taking some time off to do a language exchange and even run through the basics so I’ll be on my first call tomorrow 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
Since I'm better at reading than speaking in Japanese, I study speech by talking to myself! For instance, if I'm looking for something I lost, I'll say something like 「Ｘはどこですか？」 For me, it creates a space where I'm able to easily switch which language mode I'm in, so I feel more comfortable using it. I might be wrong about the grammar (probably used が wrong a few times here and there), but I think it helps to try to speak or else, in a real conversation, you might become confused and freeze.
I do this! Or I talk to the cat hahaha....
Haha
Haaaaa....
I need to get out more!
@@MamboCat84 I have three cats and I never thought to do that. I should do that more.
Not really good advice. Doing so causes bad habits, especially with no one around to correct your word choice, speech, pronounciation etc. It's just gonna result in making things up if something is unknown, which will make you just sound like a weirdo to the natives.
英語の勉強にも言えることを教えてくれて助かる
Having social anxiety and being anti-social sucks... But some of these comments and videos help. I'll try singing, talking to myself, etc. I'm still pretty early in my learning process, but I feel happy that I was at least picking up a few sentences here and there in this video. Plus, your body language helped a ton.
One thing I've been recommended to do to learn Japanese was writing down on a paper a hypothetical conversation about something, (mostly things I like) so when you have an exchange with a Japanese person you have an idea of how to say things. In the worst case, if what you wrote is wrong or didn't feel normal, you can ask the other person for a better way to say "x" thing.
I have yet to practice this because I don't know who to talk to, and I don't know where to find a person to practice with in person. What I do instead is imagining the conversation in my mind so I can start "thinking" in Japanese and don't get stuck thinking about what or how to say something
Another thing I like to do to practice is grabbing a WN I'm interested in and try translating it. I think it helps me in some way, and if for some reason I don't understand a sentence, I just hop into google and search for the grammar that was used so I can study it.
The problem with this is that sometimes I don't know who is speaking. Since I don't have an image (like in manga) or something to tell me who is talking, I have trouble understanding it due to how often they omit pronouns, and Japanese doesn't have words with gender.
Another problem I sometimes have is that I have no idea how to search for a grammatical sentence I don't understand.
I also love watching seiyuu clips and hearing the radio programs. Although I understand almost nothing of the latter, lol
The "learn the grammar first" strategy really only works for people who have a background in linguistics in my opinion. For example if in Korean, Mandarin, and Japanese particles/ suffixes mark verb aspect, knowing what those are and how they are used lets you plug the particles into sentences very easily. If you don't know what those are though, the various uses could be much more confusing and it could be difficult to remember all the particles.
That may explain why I'm still stuck in N4~N3, the grammar gets more nuanced and I start to feel like applying it on phrases apparently disconnected from context isn't enough anymore. I'm trying to keep reading stuff in Japanese, for instance, so I think I get a better grasp on how the language is really used. From my experience, grammar books usually do little in that aspect, you really have to go out there and practice with someone else until the grammar point gets stuck in your head. Also true for vocabulary. That was particularly why I learned English quite well, talking to people, as troublesome as it is sometimes, is indeed the thing to go for.
良い勉強になりました!
自分の日本語はまだガバガバですが、説明はすごく聞き取りやすいのおかげで助かります!
ありがとうございます!
日本語ほぼネイティブぐらい上手いですね、、、
@@Manaka_hanpen ありがとうございます!日本の方から褒められてるのはすごく嬉しいです!😳🙏
@@tenzan_kuroki 日本人でももっとハチャメチャな日本語しか使えない人さくさんいるので本当にすごい、、、
@@tenzan_kuroki 日本人から見るとだいたいネイティブじゃない人は見ただけでわかるんですけどザキィーさんの日本語からは全く感じられなかったので凄すぎてコメントしちゃいました！お勉強頑張ってください、応援してます！
@@Manaka_hanpen じゃ、応援頂いたからには自分はもっともっと日本語の勉強頑張りたいとおもいます!
すごいな忠告だと思いますよね。よくこんな役に立つの動画を作っていたのはありがとうございます
I wish I had someone to speak Japanese with 😭😭😭 doing study sessions together will be so fun !!! Studying alone is indeed boring .. thank you for this video !! 🧸
Are you talking about another Japanese learner or a native learning your own language? You can find both if you look.
There are apps to find language partners!
Another Japanese learner so we can help each other , actually I did use app to find someone but it’s only online 😅 it’s better thank nothing right ?
@@ohnina7023 Sounds nice. I'd probably be too intimidated to meet a stranger in person. I live in a somewhat isolated place though anyway.
@@saraferrandina8669 can you please name them..?
Im currently, taking Japnese Literature on my University and damn im so thankfull my school has a lesson for speech every week, not just vocabularies, listenings and reading, and to add to that I joined a Kaiwa club where there's actually natives there so no matter how confuse you get, you're just gonna have to use what u can to speak to them, and as long as u tried, in my experience they'd try to understand and even help you get through what you want to say XDD
when I was at high school the teacher speak with classmates in english, the first year I was think "she's crazy I don't understand nothing😩"but after 2 years, I understand a lot of the lessons and I speak in english text; in the end I think "thanks teacher!".
I speak the first time out the school after 3 or 4 years, their are from Holland and their speak German, but I don't know the German and their don't know italian 😆, we are speak in english!
I used now (your) this method for english and japanese :)
この動画超うまい！Adviceありがとうございました！本当にいりました
Regarding the 3rd point: I highly recommend the "learnjapanese" subreddit in case anyone isn't aware of it yet. They have a weekly thread on Mondays were you can ask even the most basic and beginner-level questions and after asking questions there for a couple of months it is almost like an online notebook that you can go back to to refresh your memory. It's a great learning tool
My native Tongue is Thai and because English is not my native language I did learned English but I completely forgotten how. I assume it be the same for Japanese as well, Currently I learn as I go. I already can speak with greetings and goodbyes for both morning, afternoon and night. For me I just need more words to learn and be able to put it together. The more words I understand the more I can use. If its something new I never said before I practice. But singing Japanese can help as well like how I used Digimon OST as my source. I was meant to learn Japanese when I used to live in japan as a kid but back then I was a different person and was not 100% into Japanese until later in life which I regret not learning earlier.
Things I learned as I type in Japanese on my keyboard:
おはいよございます
こんにちわ
げんきですか？
さよなら
I'm learning Japanese too and I learn with apps and books. I write the Kanjis over and over again. I listen to the adios in my apps and repeat what they say. And I make quizzes so the words stay in my mind. And I have cards where I wrote a single Kanji on one card and try to remember what it means and how to pronounce and read it.
03:32 Same. I start out by learning the language, its structures, grammar, common expressions, and some extent of practical vocabulary that applies to my daily life and my interests. THEN I begin to try to form sentences to describe what I'm doing in my daily life while going about my routines, look up any words I have forgotten or have yet to learn. Once describing my daily life becomes easier, I move on to THINKING in said language (I limit myself to the vocabulary of that specific language), as a casual "game of daily life". NOTE: I take breaks from this "game" when I interact with strangers.
When I have interacted with my surroundings, I try to think of ways to describe what this interaction was like and how the conversation may have sounded like in the foreign language I'm attempting to learn.
Little by little, a few words a day (or one completely new sentence a day), through revision and challenging myself day by day, I learn a little more.
I moved to Japan last year, with just the basics. I have now worked one year in a sushi restaurant now I am conversational. **WORK IN THE LANGUAGE**
it's actually so common that classes never actually teach phrases you can use in a real conversation and i've had to look up anything i wanted to say personally every time. It does make it really difficult to actually say anything interesting about myself or others.
I've been studying Japanese for > 5 years now, while I can understand, what I'm struggling with is always the 丁寧さ, which I often tell new Japanese friends to please pardon me and don't take it too hard if I misuse anything. I do also request them to correct me if I'm wrong in any words usage.
ドラマや映画を見る時、字幕は英語の代わりに日本語にするもすごく効きますよ！今、そんなふうに勉強しています。
丁寧さ
I don't know if it's a typo, or you just made a mistake, but in case it's a mistake you should say 日本語にするのも, since without the の, the verb is not nominalized, very few verbs ( within special expressions) can take a particle without the need of being nominalized, and from what I know する is not one of them
I don't mean to offend, it's just that if you really made a mistake, I thought it might be best to tell you, so you won't make it again
@@aya4292 yeah this seems correct! also want to ask if 効く used in this context is correct, as I've only seen it used when talking about medicine/treatment and the likes. I think a better way of saying "effective" would be 効果的
@@ethan________ yep you're totally right, I wouldn't use it here in this context, as it sounds a little weird, and would say instead 効果的, but I can't say for sure if 効く is wrong, or just less correct.
It’s like this psychological thought problem where you are in a black and white room and learn about the properties of color, but you can only truly understand other colors when u experience it and stand outside the room
My first language is Italian, i learned english without knowing any grammar and just by watching films and yt with subtitles. I'm so glad that i learned it this way because now things in this language just comes at me naturally and i don't have to memorize anything. I'm trying to learn japanese but I'm having some struggles remembering how to write hiragana, i didn't even start grammar but I'm already having problems :(
Oh this was a nice video. good luck everyone learning out there and hello from finland 🎉
We learned ‘como se dice __ en español’ right away in school and it always made remembering the Spanish words easier. Great tips, thank you!
1:07 LOL
Sábios ensinamentos para aprender qualquer língua. Obrigado pelas legendas em português 🇵🇹
No note que esto era portugues hasta despues de que lo lei dos veces, pero si son cosas importante. saludos desde Mexico.
お幸せに、ブラジルの友達！
it is really so much fun to practice with other people. i draw sometimes, and what i've taken to doing is making comics, and then trying to translate the dialogue into japanese by myself or with friends. just learning by app, or reading, or watching movies, or playing games won't help you hone your skill !
Honestly, I sucked at English lessons, and was unmotivated. Learnt some grammar yeah, but better I grasped English through playing Nintendo games with a friend and starting to read books in English. And later, starting to write my story in English. And I'm much more fluent in understanding and typing than I believed I could become! Because outside school ways are fun and motivating to learn, like when you want to understand so you can understand what happens in the game story etc.
Now, I'm doing the same with Japanese, especially with games, manga, anime, and other authentic content that is both fun, challenging and yet motivating, likewise this channel~!
I am so so so so so so glad I found you. Litterally exactly my problem. Over 10 years and still nada. And all these youtubers aren't helping. They only include English or Japanese subititles. One or the other. But it's just not enough. You have to do it this way. It's the only way for some of us to learn. And even English version of the Japanese words would be nice too
This is actually true especially if you are reading the nihongo book recommended by those who study n5 and above. I found one week of actual conversation with my japanese friends (online) is effective than my months of studying alone. Thank you ono!!
I just wanted to say that, this video made my day, i understood everything even if I can't repeat it word by word I did understand it thank you for the video and thank you for motivating me
I’ve been exposed to Japanese since I was 18. Although I actually took Japanese classes in university for 2 semester (N4 equivalent) but then due to some circumstances, I took 1 year off. Then I have to take Japanese from the beginning again (2 semesters again) and then I don’t have time to study N3 again due to university work. So I am now self-study. However, the most difficult part is to find Japanese person to converse. I’m 22 now but I’ve never met Japanese around my age. Except for my Sensei, so I found that my communication is very weak. My way of learning is to expose to the language as much as possible even when I struggle with it everyday so much. I need to practice so that I won’t forget. Japanese is actually my third language that I really want to learn about it so much that I will have to travel to Japan so that I can practice with the local 😂
When I start learning a language, I always try to translate everything in my mind, in said language, so even if I don't know the word, I for sure heard it in a song or a film, and try to remember it, and mostly it works. It helps a lot even when doing simple things like daily tasks "I want to watch this thing" "All these things are on my shopping list" and so on. Talking to yourself helps too, but only when no one is around to hear you. But when speaking to natives, I always get nervous the first time because "This is a real (language) speaker and I have to make a good impression" and then all the words I've learned suddenly disappear and I don't know what to say haha.
Thank you so much for these videos! Your captions are done correctly, using the built in caption tool, and you are so kind and provide Japanese and english captions. I wish more people did captions like yours, even the videos that have nothing to do with language learning! Using the caption feature means I can change the font size and colors, so it’s very easy to read. Thank you for your hard work!
If only I can understand Nihongo well then I'll be glad to help you in Filipino subtitles, well gladly most of the us can speak/understand English. By the way, thank you so much for always showing us new things while you were just sitting in your room haha
I'm currently studying Nihongo and I'm listening to Japanese music, podcast and vlogs everyday so I can learn the language quickly. I also have a plan to make a short conversation to a real Japanese person personally or through socmed like omegle, skype etc.
I studied Japanese formally for four years in college (I casually taught myself since middle school), but when I arrived in Japan for work, it all disappeared!! I had to learn by immersion. It was really scary, but by three end off my three years in Japan, I was able to carry on small conversations with people. I want to keep studying and speaking with people, but there aren't a lot of Japanese people where I live. 😢
I’m in the same situation where I wanna learn a language but there’s barely anyone I can go to who speaks that language and I’m basically surrounded by my native language so learning a second language is much harder and slower because I don’t hear it often and because I don’t hear it often, I can’t speak or write even a quarter as good as my native language
日本語の話し方が優しい♡
I think reading and writing, we can think, but listening and speaking is a "feeling" skill, let it flow in our head, then imitate :D
I used to learn hiragana and katakana 8 years ago by myself when I was a kid, now I'm back learning japanese grammar and I have zero problem reading hirakana. The only thing I struggle with is kanji.
Don't focus on learning how to write kanji as much. Everything is done mainly online now so don't waste your time now focusing on how to write!! Practice speaking as it will be more useful (if you are planning to move there)
i always wonder how to say "how do you say ___ in japanese" so when i saw 6:49 i thought to myself "that's it?? it was that easy??" i didn't expect it to be so easy i could've been asking myself that question months ago😭
I love your videos because you speak so clearly and slowly 😄
「このタンポポの綿毛が！」straight up killed me omg 😂 also great to have learned the word for dandelion!
私は香港人です。I am a Japanese beginner。I think Japanese is a complicated but interesting Language. Japanese just like a combination of Chinese and English with different order of adverb , subject and verb 。
私は頑張って日本語を勉強します💪💪
I love the way you sound speaking Japanese.
Comecei a estudar japonês hoje (aprendendo o hiragana) espero chegar a fluência uma dia, seus vídeos apareceram para mim na hora certa!
初めまして、台湾人で、なおです。
Onomappuさんの動画は日本語聴力練習に助けたと思います。
次の動画を楽しみにしています〜ありがとうございます！登録しました！
i learn english by talking to myself alot and i got used to it. for 4 years now and i can say that my english is much more better than my native language (i got used to it to think in english) lol but sometimes i dont even realise that i talk to myself i always think about having a convo with someone but i think its been 4 years i talk to myself and i can say that i prolly have mental illness now. but japanese is hella different i feel like its waaaaaaaaayyyyyyy moreeeeeeeeeeeeee harderrrrrrrr
i understood most parts of the intro since i was guessing what you were saying based on the words i understood aswell as grammar rules
ずっと しっかり日本語を勉強していますが、でも アプリで何度も誰か練習しませんでした。大部分の人々は愛情に探すアプリにとして、なんか感じ初めました。
だから、だけ自分で日本語を勉強しました。本当に日本語を諦めたいんです。🥲
I don't know why but i feel like i can understand you ( started learning japanese 2 weeks ago)
I actually turned off the subtitles for this because i wanna practice if i can still understand Japanese with videos where people speak japanese. I found out that i cant understand japanese from audios but cant understand japanese in words and letters so im currently studying japanese by listening to audios or videos that are in Japanese while trying to learn the alphabet and basic japanese conversation i cant say i understood everything but i do understand what you were talking about and saying in the video
I started dabbling in Japanese over a decade ago and I can understand most of this video without subtitles, but it's such a shame that I hardly ever took learning Japanese seriously. Now, I am okay with the level that I have. However, I would like to become properly fluent in Mandarin, and I don't want to make the same mistakes again as those mentioned in the video.
I watched it without subtitles I could say that I understood 72% 😳😳🔥🔥
ありがとうございます！！助かります
I have no one in my town that speaks 日本語. I have seen words written in kana and thought, I don’t know what that says, it’s in a foreign language. But I can read kana! I am at a beginner level. I think if I heard someone speaking in Japanese I would not understand even the words and phrases I have studied. I am thrilled when I hear a song and can understand random words, or pause a show and can read the kana in the background.
I'm a native English and Spanish speaker and this is very interesting towards me learning since I'm currently learning Japanese and a lot of this tips help towards that. If you ever want help with your Spanish I love to help, thanks for the great video.
僕も最初日本に行ったとき同じ状況に遭遇した。大学で横連したのに、日本に行ったと全然話せなかった。そして話せなかったから緊張になって、もっと話せなくなった。すごく困ったことだった。でも二週間後、なぜから今でもわからないけど、ある日急に話せるようになって、びっくりした。きっかけはたぶん日本語を話さないともっと大変なことになるから、間違ったことを言っても、学びたければやってみる必要がある。その後も違うことをよく言ったけど、少しずつもっと自然に話せるようになった。
ありがとうございます! I am trying to do all those so I hope I will improve 😁
When I am practising conversations with my japanese teacher, I always try to speak in japanese and when I dont know the translation of the word I wanna use I try to create "katakana version" of the word 😂 and sometimes I am right..
私は頑張ります💪🏻
I agree. The goals of language is a practice. 👍
英語圏の人はよく英語は難しい言語だと言っています。英語は地球上で最高にカオスな言語だから考えるな感じろとか。同様に日本人も日本語は難しい言語だ難しい言語だと何度も何度もテレビや学校の先生などに洗脳されて育ちます。笑い。結局のところ英語も日本語も高いレベルで使いこなすのは滅茶苦茶難しいと思いますよ。
一方で、言葉というのは分かった気になりやすくもあります。それは自分の母国語を学習している外国人を眺めているとよく分かります。部分的にはネイティブ顔負けの語彙力がある一方で、簡単な雑談がぎこちなかったり不自然な言葉の使い方だったり都合よく解釈しながら自信満々だったりネイティブの小さな子でも分かるような言語感覚がなかったり。
日本人の英語は読解に偏りすぎだとよく言われますが、外国の日本語学習者も日本人と話す機会がない人はそういう所があると思います。いくら知識があってもすらすら出てくる語彙となると限られますからね。その中でどこまでコミュニケーション取れるかがネイティブとの会話では勝負になります。
I fall under the category of studying alone, and also trying to speak Japanese feels forced and i often have trouble talking without a lisp. I hope to be able to speak Japanese before i visit. I can even pronounce the "r" sound!
My mom: says that I should speak Japanese with her so I can practice
Also my mom: ridicules my existence with every mistake I make like a typical asian parent
i do the same . i learnt french and English at school but i'd always practice talking to myself and singing different songs it helps me more memorize words
なるほどね〜
i’ve noticed though that as i learn more and more japanese, i just try not focus so much on the textbook grammar, and instead listen to actual japanese conversations and just copy what they do. if i’m watching a show or just any youtuber, i’ll listen to them carefully and remember what they’ve said and how they structured the sentence. it’s easier to just copy them, than to know every single reason why the sentence is form a certain way in my opinion ｡ﾟ(ﾟ´ω`ﾟ)ﾟ｡ it has helped me improve my conversation skills a lot faster, and i sound a lot more natural !
頑張ってみんな〜
すごい。流石ひときさん。英語の発音が完璧だ。
這部影片讓我更意識到了自已的問題~謝謝你
字幕を見なかったけど、分かれます!面白かった。ありがとうございます😆
Thank you for the good tips and points to consider.
Thank you so much 😊 this was so useful. I will sign up for language exchange 😭 talking to myself and studying by myself have indeed become boring
I felt really stuck when learning with textbooks such as Genki. They bombard you with grammar but I don't know how to practice it after that. You have some excersices on the book but it's not enough to imprint it in your mind.
Now I'm trying with the Pimsleur method and I'm drilling day-to-day conversations in my mind so at least I have some leeway when speaking. I'm finding it quite useful, and I just change the formal speech with informal speech and search on google how some sentences are constructed
Point 3 that you make is something I really struggle with. Not with learning Japanese; I want to learn Japanese more than anything, but getting properly into it right now is unfortunately not possible due to my current life circumstances. But I do am also learning Spanish right now, as my 5th language (I am fluent in Dutch and English, while having a decent ability in French, German, and Spanish). My problem with the latter 3 languages however is that, while I am not afraid to speak or mess up, you usually don't find yourself in situations where you are talking just for the sake of practicing talking. Rather, you are in some situation, where you are trying to convey X or Y to a person. In that case, I feel this natural urge to automatically shift to whatever language I am actually good at speaking, as that will allow me to get my point across faster and more efficiently. So even though I "know" these three languages to a decent extent, in practice anyone whom I could talk these languages to generally also knows one or both of the languages that I'm actually fluent in. It's such a stupid barrier to overcome; like I know loads of German people. Every time I find myself questioning why I don't just speak German to them. And every time I find myself just shifting to English.