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  • Опубликовано: 27 дек 2024

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  • @Mr-fe3it
    @Mr-fe3it 6 месяцев назад +4

    For every one saying victim mindset, what’s your reasoning for using Saka’s picture when he barely played? Also what does black ice mean?

  • @ambiguousgender7616
    @ambiguousgender7616 6 месяцев назад +18

    Perpetual victim mindset will take you far

    • @flyonthewallperspective
      @flyonthewallperspective  6 месяцев назад +1

      Agreed.

    • @Dabes88
      @Dabes88 6 месяцев назад

      If you can't beat them pretend your british and hey presto the English is just a language pmsl

    • @Mr_Nigeria100
      @Mr_Nigeria100 6 месяцев назад

      It's funny isn't it ? Every day white people (mainly white guys) claim that they are
      Victims of "Reverse racism"
      Victims of "Woke Culture"
      Victims of "Political Correctness"
      Victims of "Feminism"
      Victims of "Radical Islam"
      Victims of "Immigrants"
      Victims of "Muslims"
      Victims of "Women not given them sëx" (Incels)
      And nobody say they have a victim mindset
      Nope they're taken seriously. End of the day.
      To tell my 8 yr old blk son that he can be anything he wants to be if he tries hard enough is nice, but unless I warn him about the obstacles in his path. I'm ill-suiting him for the real world.
      If a person is led to believe that there are no obstacles in their way, and that their hard work and intelligence are all that'll matter, they might slack up. They may overestimate the extent to which whites will recognize their effort and hard work and that's when racism will hit them with FULL FORCE.

  • @themanwithnoname3636
    @themanwithnoname3636 6 месяцев назад +1

    In Edmonton there's a massive mural of the 3 that missed penalties. It says 3 black kings or some shit. When Beckham got sent off in 98 there was effigies of him hanging.

  • @lanceyt4401
    @lanceyt4401 6 месяцев назад +8

    Simon jordan all he does is deflect things. He's a intelligent racist as in he knows what to say without saying it. The opposite to Joey Barton but both on the same page.

    • @flyonthewallperspective
      @flyonthewallperspective  6 месяцев назад +1

      Spot on 🎯

    • @Mr_Nigeria100
      @Mr_Nigeria100 6 месяцев назад +1

      Yup. All Simon does (and ppl like him do) is present their point of view right up UNTIL it's clearly a racist statement.
      He would NEVER say “black ppl are savages” but he will talk about knife crime in inner city London.
      He makes these statements that lead up to an obvious conclusion (that black ppl r a problem ) but short of it b4 he stops and winks at other racists
      He won't bring it raw but won't mind others who'll bring it raw for him.

  • @WatchTheClipsFilm-Tv
    @WatchTheClipsFilm-Tv 6 месяцев назад +2

    @4:26 I actually disagree, I don’t think Wright, other pundits or other players and of colour speak enough. This is bigger than Saka on a newspaper, this is about disrespecting POC just because they can. Same way they disrespect them when they have their hairstyles, how they dress, what they do with their money, and more. This is not just football, it’s the UK. These people will continue until POC actually stand up for one another and let others know it’s not right. We cry about others but we need to take accountability and stop shutting up just cause they pay us

    • @flyonthewallperspective
      @flyonthewallperspective  6 месяцев назад

      👏👏

    • @66kaisersoza
      @66kaisersoza 6 месяцев назад

      At least there is diversity in the uk.
      I don't see a lot of diversity in the Ghana national team (for example).
      England is probably one of the most diverse countries out there

    • @WatchTheClipsFilm-Tv
      @WatchTheClipsFilm-Tv 6 месяцев назад

      @@66kaisersoza diversity isn’t a thing in the UK cause people want it, it is a thing because the people in charge of these cooperations need it. Just like France need POC to succeed or how America needs POC for their sport and entertainment industry to thrive. It’s the same in the UK

    • @Mr_Nigeria100
      @Mr_Nigeria100 6 месяцев назад

      I hear what your saying but white ppl would not allow an black Roy Keane TV.
      Can you imagine Didier Drogba as a pundit being like Roy Keane ? He'd last one show.
      That's y there is not one opinionated blk pundit on TV.
      The blk pundits are either there for Comic Relief n act OTT n laugh at everything (Micah Richards, Ian Wright) or they're bland and safe (Jermaine Jenas)

  • @sj2672
    @sj2672 6 месяцев назад

    What is more interesting, in my opinion, is that whenever their is a racist incident in football or when they speak of race, Jordan always mentions his mixed race nephew. He has to sit on the fence as well as black players simply because it will possibly affect their income in some way.

  • @mcdelive
    @mcdelive 6 месяцев назад +1

    Bite the hand that feeds you 😅

  • @Bean9211
    @Bean9211 6 месяцев назад +2

    saka aint even English

    • @TaylorDanson
      @TaylorDanson 6 месяцев назад

      The fuck you on about. Of course he's english

    • @Bean9211
      @Bean9211 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@TaylorDanson hes as english as i am korean hahaha

    • @paulm8690
      @paulm8690 6 месяцев назад

      British citizen by birth doesn’t make you English 😂 it makes you a British citizen to migrant British citizens……at birth. For example if two Mexicans move to japan and have a child. That said child will not just miraculously be or look Japanese or have Japanese features. That is just a fact. 😂

    • @Bean9211
      @Bean9211 6 месяцев назад

      @@paulm8690 we laugh at men pretending to be woman yet somehow sub-sahara Africans can be any nationality or ethnicity they like

  • @TB.....
    @TB..... 6 месяцев назад

    We will all get on fine if we really want to. A little bit of growing up... it's easy.

    • @flyonthewallperspective
      @flyonthewallperspective  6 месяцев назад

      I even recited what a scholar had to say about newsrooms historically been occupied by white men from elite Universities.
      And how problematic that has been and still is. But people want reduce empirical evidence to "Victim mentality".
      That sort of Ignorant mentality is just reductive to say the least.
      Its an attempt to shut down conversations on race relations. Thats what it really boils down to.
      But hey ho I appreciate your comment you seem like a decent person.

  • @imjustsharon
    @imjustsharon 6 месяцев назад +1

    👏

  • @Slim_45
    @Slim_45 6 месяцев назад

    Stop using the blanket term “media”. Why not name the individual columnists if you feel they are being racist?

    • @flyonthewallperspective
      @flyonthewallperspective  6 месяцев назад

      This proves you didn't it even watch the video.

    • @Slim_45
      @Slim_45 6 месяцев назад

      @@flyonthewallperspective I did watch it!! And yes you seemed to make constant issue with Simon Jordan (despite him making valid points)…but the media I am referring to are the actual columnists and editors of the reports you found racist. Why not name them?

    • @Mr-fe3it
      @Mr-fe3it 6 месяцев назад

      @@Slim_45would be easier to name the people not involved at this point

    • @Slim_45
      @Slim_45 6 месяцев назад

      @@Mr-fe3it yes, but naming individuals, whether it’s editors or columnists adds more accountability! The term “media” Espicially in the digital era is such a blanket term!

  • @danien37
    @danien37 6 месяцев назад +2

    wa ya talk bout ?

  • @mesolithicman164
    @mesolithicman164 6 месяцев назад +2

    After England's first game against Serbia, the pundits were raving about Saka's performance, so what are you talking about. And against Denmark, the only player to get 8/10 marks was Marc Guehi. This idea of instutional racism is just divisive garbage to make money from malcontents. What were tge England fans all singing? HEY JUDE... Jude Bellingham, what colour is he? Black/ mixed race.
    What you're doing is corrosive to relations, you're just the reverse side of the coin to the real racists out there. Not cool.

    • @chinuaphinn-archer7186
      @chinuaphinn-archer7186 6 месяцев назад +1

      Institutional racism in football is not an idea.
      Look at it this way in the entire history of the Premier league, there has only been 11 black managers. Even less have worked in senior positions of the FA, FIFA and UEFA. So why is that when there have been thousands of black players that have played professionally, many also reaching the peak of football.
      Based of the numbers alone if even 5% of black professional players became managers or worked in senior positions of the associations then we would of seen hundered if not thousands of black managers by now.

    • @mesolithicman164
      @mesolithicman164 6 месяцев назад

      @@chinuaphinn-archer7186
      So the Premier League hires on meritocracy when it comes to players, but decides to institute racism when it comes to managers? Regardless of how good a black manager is?
      Sorry, but football is a results based business you can't have it both ways.
      By your argument white English managers are being racially excluded from the Premier League. In a country with say, conservatively, 20 million white English men only 4 managers are white English.

    • @flyonthewallperspective
      @flyonthewallperspective  6 месяцев назад

      Stop being selective. You heard what Danny Murphy had to say about the media representation of Saka's performance in the friendly against Iceland.

    • @mesolithicman164
      @mesolithicman164 6 месяцев назад

      @@flyonthewallperspective
      I don't know about that but I do know everyone was raving about Saka's performance against Serbia. Less so in the second game where everyone was raving about Marc Guehi. Both players black. So...where's the racism?
      Footballers and managers are judged on performance. It's all about results.

    • @flyonthewallperspective
      @flyonthewallperspective  6 месяцев назад +1

      Looks like you need more numbers. So in just the premier league alone, there has been 104 English managers. That doesn't include all British managers such as the Scottish. Now the premier league has only existed for just over 30 years.
      Now if you look at the entirety of football there has only been 28 black managers.
      But again like I have said there has been thousands of professional black players. Based on the numbers, there is clearly a mitigating factor that makes becoming a manager for ex pro black players not a viable option.
      Unfortunately it is institutional racism by definition.
      Institutional racism, also known as systemic racism, is defined as policies and practices that exist throughout a whole society or organization that result in and support a continued unfair advantage to some people and unfair or harmful treatment of others based on race or ethnic group.

  • @WM_93480
    @WM_93480 6 месяцев назад

    Victim mentality