Trianglelab BI-METAL Heat Break - First Test Prints (CREALITY ENDER 3)

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  • Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
  • Hi guys 🙂
    Last week we published a video talking about bi-metal heat breaks, what are they and how to install one on a Creality Ender 3.
    Meanwhile, many of you asked if we could share some print results with this new heat break.
    So, in this video, we share the first test prints made using this bi-metal heat break from Trianglelab.
    All the prints were made with pearl red PLA filament from FilamentPM.
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Комментарии • 55

  • @cringe-tek3d
    @cringe-tek3d 2 года назад +7

    i tried one of these and there are actually 2 versions. one is longer designed specifically for ender 3 mk8 hotend and it works far superior than the one(shorter) featured here, i did not have to change much in my profile. I used arctic mx4 for heatsink and heatbreak on the cold end, nothing on the hot side. i also followed this guide and removed the 2 screws. retraction is 0.6 at 25mm/sec (using sherpa mini in direct feed. PLA printed great on the first try.

  • @CarlosSD
    @CarlosSD 3 года назад +9

    After watching your video I ordered this heatbrake, in the installation, when I removed the Teflon tube I realized that it was burning (when I printed petg) it was already brown, when I removed the tube it came out fuming, so it was a good upgrade

  • @samster1995
    @samster1995 3 года назад +3

    Great video. Great results too. I had clogs with mellow one and pla so went back to capricorn tube.

  • @arminth
    @arminth 3 года назад +1

    Thanks Rui! That gives a complete picture. Good job!

  • @BH4x0r
    @BH4x0r 2 года назад +3

    I think you might be able to replace the screws with stainless steel and even try to even sand/dremel alot of it so theres less heat transfer from the hotblock to the heatsink, but so it still holds the block

  • @brandoneich2412
    @brandoneich2412 3 года назад +11

    Generally all metal + Bowden (not direct drive), *with pla*, tends to yield pretty poor results. So this, so far, looks to yield pretty decent results with a couple of modifications (settings and removal of the 2 screws)

    • @EduardoSousa-fk6oy
      @EduardoSousa-fk6oy 3 года назад +3

      try this, put your E aceleration on 1500 you will need to try 2500to1000 because it's Not dd , and retrack aceleration to 750 and try you will need to Re setup the retraction settings, but try it , pla is very soft and sticky, but most of the problem is It breack with fast aceleration of retraction, it breacks and make a blob on the tip Wen unretrack do the jam. a good cooling of the neck of the heatbreak and the lower part of the cooler is one of the most important things with any Fullmetal heatbreak. sory for my bad English, i use a v6 with Vulcano block and I print tpu pla etc etc but untill get this settings i codnt too

    • @madorax251
      @madorax251 3 года назад

      cant your share slicer seting for bimetal heartbreak with bowden setup

    • @brandoneich2412
      @brandoneich2412 3 года назад

      @@madorax251 probably not since I'm running a 0.8mm nozzle

  • @Flagazz
    @Flagazz 3 года назад +1

    Awesome, thanks Rui!! Well done!

  • @kaijumoto
    @kaijumoto 3 года назад +1

    So cut the bolts so they just bite enough, and if you have a lathe, drill them out. That seems like it should solve the heat creep issue. Also, buying a Copperhead C-E heat break is the way to go.

  • @Hopatzful
    @Hopatzful Год назад +2

    3.9mm retract without clogging? Im use 3mm and result clog.. 2mm is safe retract distance but still stringing..

  • @ruuman4
    @ruuman4 3 года назад +1

    Thank you. I feel more confident in my purchase.

  • @michelyannakis535
    @michelyannakis535 2 года назад

    Great video. 1:25 You indicate this video is not a review of this particular heatbreak. However, having tested only a single brand of bi-metal heatbreak, I think it isn't fair to assess the performance of this particular heatbreak and attribute it's result as a reference to every other brand. I think I will stick to the standard heatbreak and might install a higher temp rated PTFE tube like the Capricorn in order to print at higher temperature(245°C) without the risk of having clogs.

  • @diegovd7215
    @diegovd7215 2 года назад +4

    Hello, did you perform a PID calibration before/after? If yes, did you notice a change in the values? Thank you

  • @joseguevara184
    @joseguevara184 14 дней назад

    I have a lot of Heat Creep after installing all metal bimetal heatbreak, I am waiting for stronger fans or try to use Xirbbo ceramic heatbreak,....

  • @saltysteel3996
    @saltysteel3996 3 года назад +1

    I tried a titanium heat break from Spool3D. Worked well for CF nylon. But PLA kept clogging in it. Switched to a Micro Swiss and it's been working with everything.

  • @avejst
    @avejst 3 года назад +2

    Great with a practice test 😊 love it
    Thanks for sharing your experience with all of us 👍😊

  • @Waltkat
    @Waltkat 3 года назад +1

    I was wondering if these bi-metal heat breaks made any difference so now I know. I think I'm going to buy one of the Trianglelab breaks because I've had good luck with several of their products before. I might actually try one of their Spiral Tower hot ends where instead of screwing the heat break into an aluminum heatsink, the upper half of the bi-metal heat break is the heat sink and is machined entirely from copper. No threaded interface, no heat sink grease required. Much more efficient at keeping heat away from where it's not wanted.

    • @tobiastho9639
      @tobiastho9639 3 года назад

      Is it as servicable? Do you have to replace the whole thing when its wearing out?

  • @EduardoSousa-fk6oy
    @EduardoSousa-fk6oy 3 года назад +1

    other great vídeo thanks Rui

  • @jakobwieberneit6616
    @jakobwieberneit6616 3 года назад

    Great Video!

  • @ameliabuns4058
    @ameliabuns4058 3 года назад +1

    huh they also have a ceramic or something aerospace ones. that one doesn't need a heatsink?!!!
    also the heatcreep makes a lot of sense. ptfe is acting as an insulation.

    • @ruiraptor
      @ruiraptor  3 года назад

      You mean the dragon hotend?

    • @ameliabuns4058
      @ameliabuns4058 3 года назад

      @@ruiraptor no there's another one. it's a black middle copper outside heatbreak

  • @EduardoSousa-fk6oy
    @EduardoSousa-fk6oy 3 года назад +1

    all bi metal and full metal heatbreak need a good cooling

    • @Eddinski
      @Eddinski 2 года назад

      For this type setup, the DDE type style cooling setup of Trianglelab, but with a 4020 instead of the 4010, would be perfect

  • @nikitaskyriazis
    @nikitaskyriazis 3 года назад +1

    In order to go higher in temperature (for ABS or nylon printing) should the sensor and the heating element be changed to?

    • @hermangaviria690
      @hermangaviria690 3 года назад

      Not familiar with the temperatures for ABS but I'm sure nylon goes beyond 300 degrees. In such a case you would need a different thermistor and a heater cartridge, there's also the chance you'll need a different board or an adaptor that allows the new components to be connected to the existing board. You'll also need to do an m500 on your gcode to recalibrate the heating

  • @agmuntianu
    @agmuntianu 3 года назад +1

    would be interesting to see how prints look when using some high temp material, like nylon or high temp pp. I have also bought a bimetal heatbreak, but I haven't install it yet , as I am concerned of poorer print quality.
    I plan to install it when I switch to nylon

    • @EduardoSousa-fk6oy
      @EduardoSousa-fk6oy 3 года назад

      i have very good resolts

    • @agmuntianu
      @agmuntianu 3 года назад +1

      ok , got mine installed also , very pleased with results

  • @ziqtkd8588
    @ziqtkd8588 2 года назад

    Sooo how to overcome the heat creep...are you suggest you remove the screw

  • @NicksStuff
    @NicksStuff 3 года назад +2

    Is it an improvement on the stock heatbreak, though?

    • @12522
      @12522 3 года назад +1

      It enables you to print higher temperature materials, and it also melts the plastic faster, allowing higher print speeds.

  • @gerleimarci
    @gerleimarci 3 года назад +2

    The stock hotend cooling setup is just a crap. The air goes everywhere except through the heatsink fins. I printed a duct from ABS to concentrate the air to the hotend while keeping the stock metal housing.

    • @agmuntianu
      @agmuntianu 3 года назад

      is it something found on thingiverse ?

    • @gerleimarci
      @gerleimarci 3 года назад

      @@agmuntianu nopp, my own design. Maybe I should share it someday

    • @emaayan
      @emaayan 3 года назад

      the problem is that i hear that printed cooling ducts don't work well due to layers, this is why i'm currently wondering if i should use my TL dragon hotend, which doesn't come with a fan, nor does it have any ducts available.

  • @juckendesAuge
    @juckendesAuge 3 года назад

    Heat paste at the thread can help

  • @madorax251
    @madorax251 3 года назад

    with troat stock ender 3 is it shorter or the same length?

  • @TechnoWit3D
    @TechnoWit3D 2 года назад

    Thx for the review.... , how about PETG filament ? have you tested it ?

    • @ruiraptor
      @ruiraptor  2 года назад

      Yes we tested. However, we maintained the investigation with PLA because it's harder to print correctly with PLA when using a metal heatbreak since it can clog more easily if the heatbreak is not as good.

    • @TechnoWit3D
      @TechnoWit3D 2 года назад

      @@ruiraptor I see. So is PETG more suitable?

    • @ruiraptor
      @ruiraptor  2 года назад

      Not the point...the point is to get a good quality heatbreak that suits your needs. If you want to print only PLA, a PTFE lined heatbreak might be the best option. If you want to print high temperature materials, an all metal heatbreak is the solution. However, if you want to print PLA and other materials, you need to have a good quality heatbreak which interior is correctly polished to prevent PLA clogs.

    • @TechnoWit3D
      @TechnoWit3D 2 года назад

      @@ruiraptor thanks. I'm using petg only for this printer. (ender 3).what do you suggest?

  • @VinnyG919
    @VinnyG919 2 года назад

    how can you hold the heatblock without the screws? xD

  • @TheOrgonaut
    @TheOrgonaut 3 года назад +3

    Bimetall Heatbreak need speed I f you are too slow it gets too hot In the heatblock and you get Glock s

    • @Eddinski
      @Eddinski 2 года назад

      I was thinking the same, and im not sure if the mk10 is capable of achieve that without struggle in general, the heatsink itself is so small in comparison to a V6/volcano, a bi-metal heatbreak in a volcano+bmg(dd setup) , is the way imo

  • @CrowClouds
    @CrowClouds 3 года назад +1

    Bruv you only tested PLA. Why??

    • @ruiraptor
      @ruiraptor  3 года назад +2

      We focused on PLA printing because PLA is the filament that has more issues with all metal heatbreaks. Poor quality ones will have more issues with PLA.

    • @CrowClouds
      @CrowClouds 3 года назад

      @@ruiraptor I see

  • @3D_Printing
    @3D_Printing 2 года назад

    Sorry, this product is no longer available.

  • @Eddinski
    @Eddinski 2 года назад

    imo, bi-metal and bowden setup is meh, if u put this, u need a bmg extruder for example, in DD, obviously double z (dual motor), i think that way u can achieve all the goals in a "equitable" way, if not, one thing is above, always, u can't improve quality without improve structure, and viceversa