They used to be once upon a time, now they are hiring/contracting guys from OCN/HWBOT/Guru3d"Overclockers on forums" to help them test/design and get their nicer boards solid. I know one of them bought my Z790 Apex Encore Golden sample board off of him. does 8000-8200mhz xmp on g.skill, sadly the outsourced bios team messed up the SA VID voltage for teamgorups 8000-8200mhz xmp profiles and I believe 7800mhz so that needs to be set accordingly for your ram speed since the bios does not know what to do and sets it to 1.233... Too low for anything past 7600mhz.
11700k and 128gb 3200mhz. You want stable and more ram. Lower speeds. That msi 690 ace i bet will not take 192gb. Even though it says on the website it can. But the ram compatibility even with the latest bios. hmmm. It can do 128gb at 5200mhz maybe 5600mhz. But only 96gb at 6000mhz maybe 6400+mhz around 32gb or less. 48gb if your lucky. Still in the process of building that.
You realize that 1% of the entire pc community overclock while the other 99% just run stock settings!! So it's good to have both perspectives , people who review stock and others with max OC
@@sabawialnassiri1018 on stock settings you are still better off with a intel system, its way easier to setup with less issues the point is, for smart people that care about performance and have half a brain enough to do some research, a intel setup is just better by a MILE the gap is so huge when fully tweaked its DISGUSTING this is why you will NEVER see benchmarks with 8000+ ddr5 intel setups with tweaked ring bus plus OC and undervolt
@@oXiGaming86 I want to upgrade memory on mine but I'm getting 52ns with 6000c40 m die at 6600c34 with tuned subs. That's with stock CPU to. Pretty hard to justify upgrading when I'm already getting that performance lol.
I just saw the new Asrock Z890 Taichi OCF and my mind is blown. They have physical buttons and switches for overclocking the CPU and are allowing over 10,000 MTs on DDR5. I've never seen physical buttons until now.
15th gen is no HT, and yes its slower. Have seen the last two batches of ES chips sent out. Latest one is almost as fast as a 13900k in cinebench, Gaming is well abysmal. So here is hoping the next set of ES's sent out are better. The latest is only that fast through overclocking on cinebench that gets it close to a 13900k. Big reason I got a 14900k and Apex Encore over the past two weeks. Riding it out until 17th gen with stacked cache.
Price matters. Reliability of operation is the main thing. Asrock has always been like a used Asus. Apex has never had any questions over the past 10 years. And I easily run 8400c36 2x16 on Apex, but there are almost no more FPS in games)). The days of Intel 2600k with 50% overclock are over.
End of life as a platform - we think. there are rumors intel will launch a new lga 1700 cpu kind of like amd is doing with the previous generation, supposedly bartlett .
I’m just curious when you do these test what are you measuring? For example are you measuring the speed, productivity or something because I’m new to the PC world and I still would like to learn more about PC products
@@FrameChasers oh I see. However, when you do these assessments, what do you specifically look for when you are testing these boards. Like I say I’m still new 😅 I’ve been looking at your channel and you convince me to get the Azrock nova; it is a great board
He does it purely for gaming what is stable on XMP using Karhu for 24hrs to make sure it’s stable it’s more reliable and probably safer than y-cruncher and other brutal benchmark apps for example it won’t degrade your cpu. what gives the best 1% lows and or lowest frametime. For the best all out gaming experience. Then his other services testing hardware pre binned by him that will just work. To telling people what he knows to make it just work. I don’t use his services but I do like his content and being an old xoc enthusiast that just games now I can figure it out myself still. Just like how I know how he gets Teamgroup kits to work at 7800-8200mhz on an Apex Encore. Bios is a little different. He does not come out and say it because there are people that will take his information that could never figure it out themselves and use it to make money.
Hi i have an asus z690 extreme i can boot 8000 mghz memory but not stable if i clock it down to 7200 its not a problem with my 13900k . Now to the question if i buy a 14900k or a 13900 ks could i get it to work with 8000 mghz memory speed
I give you thumbs up on the video but I still dont understand why you never show the voltages after a tweek, thats so suspicious and anticonsumer, its like you where hidding it un porpuse whitch its very dissapoining if you are, dont get me wrong I appreciate the value that you bring and the work that you put showing that the board can do 8000+ but I rather go look it on a overclocking forum that having to split the time in both parts, Its just a thought maybe i dont represent what the majority of your audience thinking but its my opinion.
@@OdinAlgeronWTF? Stealing what? A vdd2, vddq or vccsa voltage? That does not make any sense, What's secret about that? Thats so lame if indeed it's worry about some random optimizer and not about been full transparent with his audience, this is a gaming and overclocking channel not a "here you have half of the true because I want to monetize you and now you have to pay me if you want other half" that's BS, I don't think that's the case, it seems more like sponsor video and he is shoveling high voltage into the ram to be able to make 8400 or 8600 not having to dial in the voltages or losing time in that.
@@OdinAlgeron If you don't understand why INTEL's next gen of CPU's are going to be bad and a regression from there current architecture your not worth having a discussion with. Do your Google's.
SO what benefit is 8200 vs 6400 for true gaming? wasted money if you ask me.. 2% gains for $1k + more.. Stupid. You spend all that to be slower within a years time.
6800-7200+ ish range anything after that especially for just gaming returns are diminishing, IF you did notice or get gains in fps you wouldn't notice it tuned 8000 MT/s vs idk tuned 7200 MT/s you won't really notice a difference outside of benchmark's. Same goes for AMD 8000 MT/s in 2:1 mode Starts to outperform (slightly) 6400 1:1 but again outside of synthetic benches you won't notice a difference. And to the retard that said 6400 is shit vs 8000 their really isn't a a big difference manually oc 8000 with have more bandwidth in Aida 64 but may lose in PYprime.
ASRock is slowly becoming the best mobo manufacturer
not really...they are also hit and miss with each product.This product is also an exception and that's why he's making this content
@@nichronos exactly some are outliers as with other brands as well..which is why we all follow this channel to know a product real face value
They used to be once upon a time, now they are hiring/contracting guys from OCN/HWBOT/Guru3d"Overclockers on forums" to help them test/design and get their nicer boards solid. I know one of them bought my Z790 Apex Encore Golden sample board off of him. does 8000-8200mhz xmp on g.skill, sadly the outsourced bios team messed up the SA VID voltage for teamgorups 8000-8200mhz xmp profiles and I believe 7800mhz so that needs to be set accordingly for your ram speed since the bios does not know what to do and sets it to 1.233... Too low for anything past 7600mhz.
My ice rock board was the only motherboard I’ve ever owned that died, it was in the Intel 3570k days though
Not that hard now since the competition is so grimmy
One thing is that this board has a UART header near the top that can be used with TL631 Pro debug card for POST code readout.
does the z790i edge have this?
the fact that you sell an optimized bundle with a mobo,cpu, ram (the 3 most crucial PC gaming components) shows how goated you are bro 👍
meanwhile "review" tubers still use 3200mhz and NEVER touch the ring bus to "review"
11700k and 128gb 3200mhz. You want stable and more ram. Lower speeds. That msi 690 ace i bet will not take 192gb. Even though it says on the website it can. But the ram compatibility even with the latest bios. hmmm. It can do 128gb at 5200mhz maybe 5600mhz. But only 96gb at 6000mhz maybe 6400+mhz around 32gb or less. 48gb if your lucky. Still in the process of building that.
You realize that 1% of the entire pc community overclock while the other 99% just run stock settings!!
So it's good to have both perspectives , people who review stock and others with max OC
@@sabawialnassiri1018 on stock settings you are still better off with a intel system, its way easier to setup with less issues
the point is, for smart people that care about performance and have half a brain enough to do some research, a intel setup is just better by a MILE the gap is so huge when fully tweaked its DISGUSTING this is why you will NEVER see benchmarks with 8000+ ddr5 intel setups with tweaked ring bus plus OC and undervolt
A retest of the z790 edge with latest bios and 14th gen would be nice to see. It may be up there to with bios updates 🤔
I've been 7800mhz the entire time I've owned, I'm on the beta bios
Z790i edge it is better now, I'm running the latest bios beta with 2x16gb 8266cl36 with very tight timings on a 14900k. Very solid
@@oXiGaming86 I want to upgrade memory on mine but I'm getting 52ns with 6000c40 m die at 6600c34 with tuned subs. That's with stock CPU to. Pretty hard to justify upgrading when I'm already getting that performance lol.
@@MrDutch1e I had agreed with your post, but after updating to the latest beta bios, 8000mhz is now just working, going to stress test improvements!:)
@@nerdynumen lol was I the final push to update 😂
Love the ducks, so adorable.
Jufes reaching 10000MT/s before kick integrating discord subs ez
LOL
no 3200cl14 xmp? not scientific enough!
I just saw the new Asrock Z890 Taichi OCF and my mind is blown. They have physical buttons and switches for overclocking the CPU and are allowing over 10,000 MTs on DDR5. I've never seen physical buttons until now.
The day we get DDR5-9000 on ATX or even MiniITX motherboards, it will be a great day
You will get 10000mhz with 15th gen
@@massoudwazir6389 only with camm2 or soldered tho.
@@massoudwazir6389 13k
@@massoudwazir6389 how did you know that 3 months ago.
15th gen is no HT, and yes its slower. Have seen the last two batches of ES chips sent out. Latest one is almost as fast as a 13900k in cinebench, Gaming is well abysmal. So here is hoping the next set of ES's sent out are better. The latest is only that fast through overclocking on cinebench that gets it close to a 13900k. Big reason I got a 14900k and Apex Encore over the past two weeks. Riding it out until 17th gen with stacked cache.
If 15th Gen is "slower" than 14th Gen then I'm SHORT SELLING Intel stock big-time! 💰😁
love to see mini itx punching way above its weight class,
Thats impressive as hell for an Asrock board.
At this point I don't even watch any other tech reviewers for PC components.
Sorry for the off topic, but your new haircut it's the GOAT!
Oh thank goodness, I have a 24 x 2, 48gb kit, good to know.
Price matters. Reliability of operation is the main thing. Asrock has always been like a used Asus. Apex has never had any questions over the past 10 years. And I easily run 8400c36 2x16 on Apex, but there are almost no more FPS in games)). The days of Intel 2600k with 50% overclock are over.
Patiently Waiting for the first cam2 memory board to be reviewed and max over clocked
I lucked into a single Encore in the case at Microcenter. Haven’t seen one in awhile. Good vid!!
End of life as a platform - we think. there are rumors intel will launch a new lga 1700 cpu kind of like amd is doing with the previous generation, supposedly bartlett .
Rumors recent? You're the first am hearing this from
we need more 2 dimm boards in MATX and ATX form factors for Arrow Lake!
if I'm on 8600 c36 24gb x 2 on encore
vst y cruncher stable and 24 hr karhu stable would this board be worth even trying for fun ?
no
Obviously not
It’s $270, why not have some fun if your bored
@@FrameChasers 👍
@FrameChasers he's already got 8600 working what's the goal?
Love Asrock boards for all my builds.
5:55 Dude. 1hr 8min 30sec poop? We're gonna need to confirm this turd. Please also list the weight in Courics.
looking forward to your analysis on the next gen computer hardware
fun weekend project good job
nice, good job
ASRock has been killing it lately!
Just got the nova, its not showing bios on restarts after i xmp. So i think i need this. But i have 13th gen cpu, is this the right move?!
I’m just curious when you do these test what are you measuring? For example are you measuring the speed, productivity or something because I’m new to the PC world and I still would like to learn more about PC products
This channel is purely gaming focused
@@FrameChasers oh I see. However, when you do these assessments, what do you specifically look for when you are testing these boards. Like I say I’m still new 😅 I’ve been looking at your channel and you convince me to get the Azrock nova; it is a great board
@@SNKev411best join the discord my man
I’ll be glad to do that
He does it purely for gaming what is stable on XMP using Karhu for 24hrs to make sure it’s stable it’s more reliable and probably safer than y-cruncher and other brutal benchmark apps for example it won’t degrade your cpu.
what gives the best 1% lows and or lowest frametime. For the best all out gaming experience.
Then his other services testing hardware pre binned by him that will just work. To telling people what he knows to make it just work. I don’t use his services but I do like his content and being an old xoc enthusiast that just games now I can figure it out myself still. Just like how I know how he gets Teamgroup kits to work at 7800-8200mhz on an Apex Encore. Bios is a little different. He does not come out and say it because there are people that will take his information that could never figure it out themselves and use it to make money.
Hi i have an asus z690 extreme i can boot 8000 mghz memory but not stable if i clock it down to 7200 its not a problem with my 13900k . Now to the question if i buy a 14900k or a 13900 ks could i get it to work with 8000 mghz memory speed
Fuck yeah jufus
I give you thumbs up on the video but I still dont understand why you never show the voltages after a tweek, thats so suspicious and anticonsumer, its like you where hidding it un porpuse whitch its very dissapoining if you are, dont get me wrong I appreciate the value that you bring and the work that you put showing that the board can do 8000+ but I rather go look it on a overclocking forum that having to split the time in both parts, Its just a thought maybe i dont represent what the majority of your audience thinking but its my opinion.
because of haters stealing his settings and selling them
@@OdinAlgeronWTF? Stealing what? A vdd2, vddq or vccsa voltage? That does not make any sense, What's secret about that? Thats so lame if indeed it's worry about some random optimizer and not about been full transparent with his audience, this is a gaming and overclocking channel not a "here you have half of the true because I want to monetize you and now you have to pay me if you want other half" that's BS, I don't think that's the case, it seems more like sponsor video and he is shoveling high voltage into the ram to be able to make 8400 or 8600 not having to dial in the voltages or losing time in that.
An hour-long poop, damn!
Checking in on lightning stock 😂
All builds for me and my clients: Asrock 👌🏻🛸
Jesus 1 hour and 10 minute poop, this guy knows how to live the poopy lifestyle
Пожалуйста покажи как происходит разгон и какие программы стоит купить
Если есть такой вопрос - оставь все в авто, не парься. Разницы в играх не будет, это чисто для тестов.
That's tiny 😂
A little tiny MOBO , to bad not more IO
She said it was a good size!
@@embalmed it's not the size it's how you use it 😂
Great
fps chaser
monk :)
I'm more impressed by the hour and ten minute poop.
15gen Intel and 9000gen AMD?
9xxx prolly only 10% better than 7xxx
dead end
@@OdinAlgeron Yeah but what about INTEL's next Gen. It'll be worse than 9xxx
@@raynel8495 HOW? the current 14th gen is vastly superior to 7xxx ryzen, the 9xxx is only going to be 10% faster
@@OdinAlgeron If you don't understand why INTEL's next gen of CPU's are going to be bad and a regression from there current architecture your not worth having a discussion with. Do your Google's.
@@raynel8495 sooo basically without benchmarks you are just talking out your ass, got it
😎
ducks
What about a decent non Asus board that isnt ITX 😅
That's the ASRock Nova
My z590i Asus > all other
Not first
SO what benefit is 8200 vs 6400 for true gaming? wasted money if you ask me.. 2% gains for $1k + more.. Stupid. You spend all that to be slower within a years time.
6800-7200+ ish range anything after that especially for just gaming returns are diminishing, IF you did notice or get gains in fps you wouldn't notice it tuned 8000 MT/s vs idk tuned 7200 MT/s you won't really notice a difference outside of benchmark's. Same goes for AMD 8000 MT/s in 2:1 mode Starts to outperform (slightly) 6400 1:1 but again outside of synthetic benches you won't notice a difference. And to the retard that said 6400 is shit vs 8000 their really isn't a a big difference manually oc 8000 with have more bandwidth in Aida 64 but may lose in PYprime.
280$ Yesssssssssssss